The Rich get Richer! Nagoriyuki's buffs are an even bigger deal than you thought!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
  • Nagoriyuki is a character in Guilty Gear Strive that the majority of people would consider one of the better characters in the game now. After the most recent balance patch in guilty gear strive, he's even better! So lets talk about how the rich get richer
    0:00 - Intro & Superior clone
    2:58 - Superior 6p
    3:43 - Higher combo potential
    5:06 - Better frame traps
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  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger  2 года назад +62

    People thought Nagoriyuki was gonna get nerfed. He instead received multiple significant buffs. Funny how that works huh? So we got quite a few case examples of how his buffs are not only strong, but stronger than you think because there's more to it than just whats in the patch notes. Maybe invest in Nagoriyuki stock cause it only keeps rising!

    • @zacm1488
      @zacm1488 2 года назад

      Did people think that? Hes not highly feared overseas.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +9

      @@zacm1488 "overseas" is ultra blind to the reality thats in front of them, cause nobody plays nagoriyuki in japan. This happens god knows how many times over god knows how many games that Japan thinks a top tier character is bad somehow.

    • @MiketheNerdRanger
      @MiketheNerdRanger 2 года назад

      *Why* did people think he was gonna get nerfed? I thought the *last* thing Nago needed was nerfs.

    • @JaquetaoSlayer
      @JaquetaoSlayer 2 года назад +1

      He probably got these buffs because he got almost nothing from the universal aerial buffs

    • @crispyhobo9419
      @crispyhobo9419 2 года назад +2

      the second I knew what nago was about, I decided to main him. the initial learning process is nothing but pain but rooflemonger is right, he really is a cool character and super unique. I couldn’t be happier with this patch, and thank you for the content!

  • @trapper69420
    @trapper69420 2 года назад +192

    “He needed it” - a nago player somewhere, probably.

    • @johnhurley8918
      @johnhurley8918 2 года назад +15

      Nago player since day one: He didn't need it. I feel like Nago players were the only ones sounding the alarm on this character back when everyone said he was bad.
      I like the quality of life buffs, like making 6p more usable and allowing me to just do the first hit of shiz, but clone didn't need to be full screen, it doesn't need to be plus on block, shiz doesn't need to be a hard knock down, I don't even think shiz needs the second hit!
      There are ways to nerf this character where he'll still be fun, like making the hitbox on spin not as tall to make jump ins a more viable counter, etc.

    • @shinluis
      @shinluis 2 года назад +3

      Me. That was me

    • @shinluis
      @shinluis 2 года назад

      @@johnhurley8918 looks like someone is getting bloodsucking universe’d a lot

    • @johnhurley8918
      @johnhurley8918 2 года назад +4

      @@shinluis Did you not read the first line of my comment? I'M the one doing ghe blood sucking. I'm having a blast, but I recognize he doesn't need to be this good. He'd still be top tier even with nerfs.

    • @minimonkeymasher8888
      @minimonkeymasher8888 2 года назад +3

      @@johnhurley8918 Clone literally needs all of those things to warrant it costing 1/2 of your blood meter to capitalize on.

  • @Gr8PowerfulOz
    @Gr8PowerfulOz 2 года назад +93

    Hellloooooo and WELcome. It seems for some characters a critical move gets nerfed but they bring up other moves to compensate. Hence, being more balanced.

    • @Sparklesniff
      @Sparklesniff 2 года назад +1

      I guess Axl's j.D was a critical move... my boy has tiny feet now. why Daisuke

    • @SkullB0und
      @SkullB0und 2 года назад

      @@dewwyd6586 Nago sucks he needs a buff...I hate how I can ALMOST hit fullscreen as if daisuke is teasing nagos real potential...

  • @kyeblade06
    @kyeblade06 2 года назад +79

    Everyday is a good day when you play nago

    • @johnhurley8918
      @johnhurley8918 2 года назад +3

      It's always time to feast.

    • @kyeblade06
      @kyeblade06 2 года назад

      @@johnhurley8918 its always a good day to start grinding

  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger  2 года назад +28

    Next video should be Patch winners & Losers short of some news coming up or something! After that, perhaps a few more in depth look at character specific stuff from the patch, then its back to making a bunch of combos/big guides for characters cause I no longer have the threat of a patch looming over my head! Also tonight the King of Fighters 98 Rollback netcode beta goes live and I will be streaming it! KoF 98 is a classic just like Street FIghter 2 is, so if you wanna see how KoF worked before everything got crazy tune in why not!? Plus more streams throughout the week + The annual dark pictures game stream.

    • @bigmeatball7467
      @bigmeatball7467 2 года назад

      Have you switched off from the Goldlewis train, uncle Roofle?

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +3

      @@bigmeatball7467 Goldlewis just isn't what I want him to be at this point. The issues I have its clear they have no intention of addressing, and they want to focus on strengths to me I don't think should be the point of the character. Love the character, but I can't play him anymore as I find him frustrating to play.

    • @bigmeatball7467
      @bigmeatball7467 2 года назад +4

      @@rooflemonger I’m really sorry to hear that, and hope Arcsys makes some of the adjustments you’d like to see for one of their coolest characters concept and design wise. I’m struggling to get around the FD changes with him currently and it’s doable (especially because his buffs are pretty meaningful,) but the fact that other characters got as much or almost as much as he did AND now have a more reliable way to escape his previously overwhelming Typhoon pressure does sting.
      Your initial passion for the character is what gave me the motivation to pick him up myself on his launch and now I’m ranked #22 on total wins among Goldlewis players. Even if you’ve dropped him for now I’ll always be thankful for you showing me how damn badass he is, and I’ll continue to fight past all weaknesses and keep swinging my coffin in your honor.

  • @thegoose8663
    @thegoose8663 2 года назад +27

    Not charged Dust in the corner - up RRC - jS - jD - 5K - DP - 236K - cS 6H 6H is my favorite new thing.
    And also his new frame trap with DP that toychofdeathes Chipp in the corner. VEEERY nice.

    • @tayl0165
      @tayl0165 2 года назад

      Attach a link please

    • @thegoose8663
      @thegoose8663 2 года назад

      @@tayl0165
      ruclips.net/video/1nn09A7FErk/видео.html - chipp
      ruclips.net/video/u7BKj5ryRCw/видео.html - dust

  • @ImarBenIsrael
    @ImarBenIsrael 2 года назад +61

    As a person that hasn't played my copy of gg yet I love that the devs is doin the exact opposite of what nrs did with their balance patches and updates.

    • @cesarmelo5704
      @cesarmelo5704 2 года назад +2

      Why haven't you touched the game yet?

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +32

      1) Time to get to that copy of the game! 2) Absolutely, NRS's unwillingness to do anything of consequence with patches in MK11 was the greatest source of frustration I had with the game.

    • @ImarBenIsrael
      @ImarBenIsrael 2 года назад +4

      Honestly idk man . I bought the ultimate edition a month or so after the game came out and it's waiting for me but I just been in such a rut after mk 11 and how that went horribly wrong . I just stepped away from any fighting games really but I always watch it when possible . I gotta just shake that shit off and play it on between my other primary games . I always said when I start to play , ram , ino and gio is my characters

    • @iDrKx
      @iDrKx 2 года назад +1

      @@ImarBenIsrael I don't see the issue you have with the game

    • @granddaddy_funk
      @granddaddy_funk 2 года назад +3

      @@ImarBenIsrael alot of people feel like that. I have a friend who is a gg pro, but he barely wants to play this one. I think the pandemic sucked some of the fun out of fighting games .

  • @diegomireles1773
    @diegomireles1773 2 года назад +2

    Don’t sleep on Nago’s projectile I’ve interrupted ultimates with it

  • @TheJackOfFools
    @TheJackOfFools 2 года назад +2

    Not going to lie the "hello and welcome" intro always gives me a little spike of serotonin.
    Also I love the changes and think it's great. I hope that Nago continues to be this "not hated but still respectably strong" character. As soon as I saw him in the promos, I knew that he was going to be the first character I played. Then I played him in the beta and was disappointed by his limitations but still found him fun. I've mained him since launch and he is one of my favorite fighting game characters ever. His risk reward balance is a great fit for my playstyle, and the aesthetic is just immaculate.

  • @NurseValentineSG
    @NurseValentineSG 2 года назад +9

    Man, I have to hit the lab again. that double 6H is so cool.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +2

      The fact it gives you 50% damage midscreen off a CH uppercut 2nd hit legit shocked me while I was labbing stuff in prep for this video.

  • @Ephelle
    @Ephelle 2 года назад +10

    As if this matchup wasn't hard enough already for Jack-O' now I'm not even safe at literally full screen.

    • @reinsmano
      @reinsmano 2 года назад

      @@juice6521 That match up is pain

    • @kyeblade06
      @kyeblade06 2 года назад

      At least the servant dont count as projectiles

    • @Ephelle
      @Ephelle 2 года назад

      @@kyeblade06 They still get deleted.

    • @kyeblade06
      @kyeblade06 2 года назад

      @@Ephelle oh well i dont play her my clones just always go through them

  • @LanzaT8
    @LanzaT8 2 года назад +3

    Imo he's was exactly what I wanted in guilty gear. He's basically guilty gear Hakumen.
    Masked Samurai
    Special to special cancels

  • @TheBriguy1998
    @TheBriguy1998 2 года назад +11

    Little late to the party, but as a Nago main I can tell you that before the patch, the blockstun on clone has always been just as high as it is now. That's not to say this patch didn't allow you to use it in close-up pressure more easily, just that the reason you can do so now is because the startup was reduced by 5 frames and the projectile travels quicker, so block-strings with it are more tight and you will no longer just get hit before the projectile comes out when used at short to medium range, not because of any blockstun increase.

    • @SJ-hz9uq
      @SJ-hz9uq 2 года назад

      I picked up the game 2 days ago and I knew from the start that I will main nago but the problem is I like fast characters but I was able to adapt to almost everything but I still struggle with one thing, I like aggressive play can you please tell me how can I be more aggressive with him since I cant just run up or air dash to people?
      P.S English isn't my first language

  • @1Diddums
    @1Diddums 2 года назад +3

    Riyuki having more sauce seems like a necessary necessity.
    Milk & cereal addition, mos' def'!

  • @mitchell2719
    @mitchell2719 2 года назад +1

    Haven't played in a couple weeks, and now I need to relearn my character. This gonna be a good weekend

  • @5715klin
    @5715klin 2 года назад +2

    really looking forward to labbing the new funky air combos nago has now with the buff to shizuriyuki
    6:18 the entire nago experience, as if he didn't have enough to call out the opponent for trying to play footsies

  • @Sergio-th7os
    @Sergio-th7os 2 года назад +15

    His buff is outrageous...Why would they buff his neutral possibilities?!

    • @makedislikesgreatagain7682
      @makedislikesgreatagain7682 2 года назад +2

      @@michaelmccoy1794 lmao stop

    • @minimonkeymasher8888
      @minimonkeymasher8888 2 года назад +5

      Considering the buffs to aerial attacks (which he previously had a very hard time punishing and capitalizing on), and the buffs to projectiles, which he literally only has 1 good answer for, the buffs are warranted, I think.

    • @Skeloleks811
      @Skeloleks811 2 года назад

      he benefited the least from the system wide changes. lost the PRC command grab os, every character having a 5 frame move will change some matchups, FD buffs affect his pressure, doesn't get quite as much from the aerial changes as other characters. he's still an absolute monster, not downplaying, just giving some reasons why they may have buffed his projectile and 623H. I'd still rather fight nago than leo, maybe even May now that her damage has gone through the roof.

  • @BHS289
    @BHS289 2 года назад +12

    Usually I play characters who can’t catch a break with balance patches, now I’m worried this patch’ll be my main’s supervillain origin (though I imagine the roster getting faster buttons across the board was an obvious indirect nerf to him)

  • @raiden3079
    @raiden3079 2 года назад +28

    Wouldn't be all that surprised if Nago is the best fucking character in the game now.

    • @xxfloppypillowxx
      @xxfloppypillowxx 2 года назад +5

      Oh he 100% is. Even if they nerfed beyblade damage the damage wasn't the issue on that move to begin with, it's the fact that he's 0 on block meaning everytime he uses it you're in a 50/50 where the results are highly against the defender every time your options after blocking is a) keep blocking b) try to poke out. If you try to poke out and he fukiyos backwards then congrats you've just whiffed and he's going to devour you for doing it, you can try to punish the fukiyo but good luck finding a 16 frame punish that can reach that far on 90% of characters. If you keep blocking then congrats you get to keep eating chip damage and/or get command thrown in which case he gets all his blood meter back and gets to continue the pressure. A low profiling 0 on block, with a massive disjointed hitbox is always going to be a problem even if it does no damage then you make it special cancellable and it's absolutely insane literally the only downside to it is that it takes blood gauge but even if you do nothing to mitigate your blood gauge you still can use it 3 times without going into blood rage. I don't see how this move ever even made it live much less survive patches. I've completely stopped trying to fight Nagoriyuki normally, I just go 100% reckless mode and play nothing but offense because I know if I ever lose my turn then it won't be my turn again until next round because even if he has slow buttons it doesn't matter because his absolutely insane range means that he can threaten me far earlier than I can threaten him.

    • @2F4M73
      @2F4M73 2 года назад

      @@xxfloppypillowxx who you main?

    • @bobbobertson3285
      @bobbobertson3285 2 года назад

      @@xxfloppypillowxx I was going to explain to you have beyblade mix actually works but you seem to have a few misconceptions about it that only experience will fix.

    • @xxfloppypillowxx
      @xxfloppypillowxx 2 года назад +1

      @@bobbobertson3285 So why did you bother posting this if you are not actually going to contribute anything? Lol it's just like you want attention and you want to feel like you know more than someone else while not actually being able to articulate any actual point.

    • @n00bs0
      @n00bs0 2 года назад

      @@xxfloppypillowxx beyblade is a great move but not completely broken like you make it seem. For one Fd is great against nago. Fd is beyblade and he can’t grab. Limiting his options and forcing him to either spend more blood to continue pressure or back off. Also when you get hit with beyblade you can either challenge, jump, back dash , or just block. Mixing up those different options makes it very tricky for nago. Also in order for nago to even catch a jump after beyblade needs to dp. That’s a huge blood commitment that he can only do with little blood. If you can understand when he can and can’t use his options then your chances of winning increase. Watch his blood just as much as he is and understand how kind each move costs. If you block beyblade when he only has 1 bar left. Chances are she isn’t gonna dp because it will make him pop. Facing an unpredictable opponent as nago is a nightmare. You end up wasting all you’re recourses trying to open someone up and when you don’t you’re resorted to two buttons.

  • @Pl3aseG0Away
    @Pl3aseG0Away 2 года назад +6

    That 6H, DP, 6H is so sick. Style > Optimal, I say.

  • @Neogears1312
    @Neogears1312 2 года назад +3

    Honestly it’s more like the upper middle class got promoted to lower upper class.

  • @kaiozab4866
    @kaiozab4866 2 года назад

    good morning rooflemoger

  • @globushallidus3702
    @globushallidus3702 2 года назад +2

    Boi that Ky fb recovery is looking real good vs Nago .

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад

      Yeah I had the dummy set on autoblock while recording and only in editing did I catch how impossibly fast he recovered from the big fireball. Before he never woulda blocked that

  • @kyeblade06
    @kyeblade06 2 года назад +1

    If you get dp motoon conter hit in the corner on the 2nd hit you can close slash dust twice the k to clone or k 2s to 5 h

  • @ligersensei362
    @ligersensei362 2 года назад +1

    Yeeeeaaa! We moving on up (moving on up) to the east side! We finally got a piece of the pie :3

  • @jamesmills1155
    @jamesmills1155 2 года назад

    Now it's time to feast!

  • @joenuts3535
    @joenuts3535 2 года назад +1

    Nago my beloved

  • @Lufftwaffles15
    @Lufftwaffles15 2 года назад +1

    The throw prc changes are a pretty significant nerf to his grab game, although warranted. So it makes sense they wanted to help his full screen presence and frame traps.

    • @whatthefluck13
      @whatthefluck13 2 года назад +4

      Most characters in the game primarily rely on strike/throw for pressure, it doesn't affect Nago any more than it affects most other characters and he was already top tier in comparison

  • @deltor5849
    @deltor5849 2 года назад +1

    Have you heard of Chef John from Foodwishes(Great channel btw)? You sound like the fighting game version of him lol

  • @Vertigo547
    @Vertigo547 2 года назад +1

    Us nago mains are eating good tonight

  • @kinglobster7246
    @kinglobster7246 2 года назад

    he needed it

  • @pikliGN
    @pikliGN 2 года назад +1

    TAX THE TOP TIERS!!!!

  • @Purefunk4
    @Purefunk4 2 года назад +3

    Any1 who says his 623H is a frame trap now doesn't seem to play Nago past floor 7. You can't be spending that much blood on what's probably one of his weakest frame traps.
    I agree nago is definitely top tier but it's become so easy to see what people don't play him vs those that do because the guys that play him go "what about the blood tho" because they've lost 100s of rounds by popping.

    • @coolfish420
      @coolfish420 2 года назад +1

      It's a lot like people who only see Zato's corner mix but don't get how fucking complicated it can get input wise

    • @Purefunk4
      @Purefunk4 2 года назад +1

      @@coolfish420 or how shitty it feels to not have Eddie out. I never played Zato but I can tell when you guys don't have your meter you aint feeling too great lok

    • @coolfish420
      @coolfish420 2 года назад +1

      @@Purefunk4 oh I mean I main nago too, but I had to learn zato to be able to lab against him lmao

    • @Purefunk4
      @Purefunk4 2 года назад +1

      @@coolfish420 fellow nago brother 👍color 2 is the best color!

    • @coolfish420
      @coolfish420 2 года назад +1

      @@Purefunk4 I like 5, the mint.

  • @charliericker274
    @charliericker274 2 года назад

    Wish Ky's slide kick got that second hit only on a button press treatment. . . That would be nice. Not that Ky is weak but that move is still funky AF.

    • @KenjiAsakura09
      @KenjiAsakura09 2 года назад

      Ngl, that move still confuses me sometimes because I forget that it hits twice

  • @armoredsquirrel946
    @armoredsquirrel946 2 года назад +10

    well at least nago pays his specials (blood metter) i guess, Sol deals pretty much the same damage for free

    • @sleepy3851
      @sleepy3851 2 года назад

      I really don't get the hate on nagoriyuki, im not good at the game like im suffering on 8th floor but going against sol or ramlethal is much more stressful, at least nago kills himself if he go all out spinning and teleporting on me

  • @DwarlWarberry
    @DwarlWarberry 2 года назад +3

    Don't forget the clone now just straight up deletes most projectiles too which it never used to. lmao

    • @DwarlWarberry
      @DwarlWarberry 2 года назад +1

      @@michaelmccoy1794 it never deleted the projectiles on the way in though, try it against skyfish you'll see what I mean

    • @erichbauer3991
      @erichbauer3991 2 года назад

      yeah that was a general change but nago probably benefits the most from it. I don't think there's a projectile that's stronger than his clone

    • @DwarlWarberry
      @DwarlWarberry 2 года назад

      @@erichbauer3991 Supers, and I think security level 3 Goldlewis drone are about it

  • @DeadEye364
    @DeadEye364 2 года назад +1

    As a Nago main, it really irks me when everyone is freaking out about this buff like he was already this unstoppable monster where in realty we Nago players are playing our asses off so we can actually fight some of the characters without getting corner stomped into oblivion. The speed buff to his clone in particular is an absolute godsend since people that projectile spawn like the little shits they are were hell to deal with.

    • @tmdtheghost
      @tmdtheghost 2 года назад

      Preach

    • @kei7540
      @kei7540 2 года назад

      Nago players really pretending the had it rough

    • @DeadEye364
      @DeadEye364 2 года назад

      @@kei7540 play him and get into celestial.

  • @drakenastor
    @drakenastor 2 года назад

    Yeah but let's not forget all those things cost blood, specially clone, and if you combine that with dash, 2 specials and your nearly two bars already.

  • @rimimimimimimimim4170
    @rimimimimimimimim4170 2 года назад +1

    Am I supposed to be happy? Been maining Nago since day 1 so is it ok for me to still play a character that is meant to be super broken lol? I mained Nago from the start since sol was so op but he’s so cool…

  • @TheSchmogi
    @TheSchmogi 2 года назад

    got the same on counterhit 6p before patch?
    only on normal hit u didn't

  • @justingoers
    @justingoers 2 года назад

    Man I gotta say I am loving the way updates and balance changes are rolled out. This is such a stark contrast to the clunky and disappointing way Capcom would just crush fun characters in The early seasons on SFV. It feels so much better to just make everyone strong.

    • @justingoers
      @justingoers 2 года назад

      That said I do think SFV reached a fun spot in the final season.

    • @KenjiAsakura09
      @KenjiAsakura09 2 года назад

      @@justingoers just right in time for SF6

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 2 года назад +4

    Daisuke believes in Black excellence.

  • @zenbrown7144
    @zenbrown7144 2 года назад +1

    The second hit of 623H is really cool and I've definitely hit it before, but it really seems like a gimmick that will stop working once people are used to the patch, just because you don't have anything threatening after the first hit to make them mash. If you block the first hit just keep blocking, and if I fukyo forward a reaction 5P is pretty easy. It loos fucking sweet though.

    • @ignis488
      @ignis488 2 года назад +1

      you can use spin or clone to advance at cost of blood, but yeah it's just a gimmick, nothing like Sol's new option after bandit revolver where it's much harder to guess/ react correctly

  • @tomb.591
    @tomb.591 2 года назад +2

    I love Nago and the patch changes are fantastic. Did you notice any changes to his Blood Gauge though?
    I feel like it's kind of doing whatever it wants to from time to time.
    Like this one time I pressured in the corner, went in just in time to take a successful bite (gauge is indicating the decrease), Fukyo backwards and POOF: blade rage. WHY?
    And no I didn't RC.

    • @johnhurley8918
      @johnhurley8918 2 года назад

      It doesn't instantly empty your blood gauge. It increases how fast it empties. If the blood you add is more than what is reduced in that time, then you'll go over.
      Think of it like draining a pool. If I just turned on the pump to drain it, but I add more water right away, it's going to overflow. Give it some time and you're safe.

    • @ignis488
      @ignis488 2 года назад

      @@johnhurley8918 that's not how it behaved before though, before patch if you got bite success you can just go mad for a few sec, no worry or anything about how high it was b4 the bite

    • @johnhurley8918
      @johnhurley8918 2 года назад

      @@ignis488 That's always how it worked 🤦

    • @tomb.591
      @tomb.591 2 года назад

      @@johnhurley8918 Ok, that sucks. I thought the same as Nguyen Dung... Another thing I noticed is that CG gets counter thrown WAY MORE often then before (with a normal throw). This happened to me countless times yesterday alone. I thought CG beats normal throws...?

    • @tomb.591
      @tomb.591 2 года назад

      @@johnhurley8918 Hm... Concerning Blood Rage, on Dustloop it says "If this [Blood Sucking Universe] successfully hits, the Bloodgauge's progression is completely halted, no matter how fast it was previously filling (or emptying!). Useful for preventing Blood Rage at the last second." The way I understand it I shouldn't have blood raged after all ...so what happened? Was it a bug?

  • @nicksu4898
    @nicksu4898 2 года назад

    This patch we gotta fight against Arcade Mode Nagoriyuki while the person who plays it gets to be like "Yeah, I like spinny vampire riceball man."

  • @SteadyTeddy
    @SteadyTeddy 2 года назад

    As someone who has only played Nago since release, the new clone adjustment has changed how I approach neutral. It's actually crazy how good is it now. I went from only using it maybe once a match as a chip tool to get a kill to abusing it full screen whenever I get a chance. The matchup against Axl has become so much easier. And the fact that Nago has a better full screen tool than Axl says a lot. I will miss it when it inevitably gets nerved. It's broken and so much fun. Sorry everybody else lol

  • @just_2swift
    @just_2swift 2 года назад +47

    Talk about not listening to the cry babies. They could've killed him thank God they're not like that mk developer.

    • @Nefariousbig
      @Nefariousbig 2 года назад +11

      Don't be one of those berks that thinks anyone talking about nerfing or balancing characters is a crybaby

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 2 года назад +1

      @@Nefariousbig too late

    • @tmdtheghost
      @tmdtheghost 2 года назад

      @@Nefariousbig so take away new clone, and spin is -3 on block, would you think that would balance him?

  • @millionshadesofdarkness2165
    @millionshadesofdarkness2165 2 года назад +1

    GG lead dev must be a nago main lol

  • @robotdowning963
    @robotdowning963 2 года назад +1

    I know you probably won't see this rooflemonger but if you do i was wanting to know if there's any way you can get hoodies for your merch? I really want to support you and get the May ape shirt but id really want to get a hoodie of it as I'm sure others probably would! Thank you for all the great content!

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +1

      I see all! And I might be able to make it happen? DM me on twitter if you serious about it and then ill see if I can get the ball rolling on that

    • @robotdowning963
      @robotdowning963 2 года назад +1

      @@rooflemonger OH HELL YES! I don't own a Twitter account but I'll make one today and message you about it!

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад

      @@robotdowning963 im @rooflemonger on twitter as well, my dms are always open

  • @StreyX
    @StreyX 2 года назад +2

    Beyblade degeneracy was getting boring to Nago players, so they had to spice it up with a new way to harass people before they get bored and start spinning again.

  • @johnhurley8918
    @johnhurley8918 2 года назад +1

    I feel like Roofle is little by little getting more frustrated with every buff video 😂

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад

      Frustrated isn't the word, just I find things very silly sometimes

  • @xthechroniclesof.5554
    @xthechroniclesof.5554 2 года назад +1

    I fought nago yesterday, in this match I learned 2 things, 1 the pressure is still there and 2 I think Axl 2k works alittle too well in this fight, Low-profiling a frame trap was never that fun or funny.

  • @Bubblerlol
    @Bubblerlol 2 года назад +1

    That was a depressing hello and welcome hahahha

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад

      I think its just cause I was tired lol, nothing to read into there

  • @phdbot4483
    @phdbot4483 2 года назад

    I was a bit surprised the only nerf Nagoriyuki's beyblade got was a damage scaling nerf, that was it.
    But wow! The Clone Projectile buff really stands out to me, because not only can it be used to contest with fireballs better, but it can also test people's patience in blockstrings now that it's plus! Sure, it fills up the blood gauge, but people are gonna have to respect his pressure more than ever!

    • @purpledragonfly9006
      @purpledragonfly9006 2 года назад +1

      It was always plus now its just more plus

    • @DeprivedJuice
      @DeprivedJuice 2 года назад +1

      I only used clone for the occasional clone into fukyo cS pressure and for chipping someone out safely on wall break. Now you can definitely use it full screen to get in vs projectile spamming.

  • @Youngbreadstlck
    @Youngbreadstlck 2 года назад +7

    I'm going to dread the day they nerf him cause all his move are just so good I'm scared what will happen 😅

    • @DeprivedJuice
      @DeprivedJuice 2 года назад

      Same. His buttons are so good not just frame data wise but the feel you get from connecting with them. I think a fair nerf would be to increase blood gain on some of his specials. At least that way his core mechanic gets more interaction.

    • @ignis488
      @ignis488 2 года назад

      they barely touched Sol so ...

    • @Sparda51
      @Sparda51 2 года назад

      He needs a nerf….he is getting buff after buff and it’s getting ridiculous. His 6P hit behind him when watching Jiyuna stream that shouldn’t happen like wtf? No that is not okay. He is probably better than sol now. People just have a negative opinion based on launch Sol.

    • @Youngbreadstlck
      @Youngbreadstlck 2 года назад

      @@Sparda51 ik he needs a nerf I just don't want him to get nerf to the ground is all

    • @RouninKenshiro
      @RouninKenshiro 2 года назад

      @@Sparda51 it didnt, jiyuna's hurtbox was extended to in front of nago which is why he got hit. Youre capping based off a system mechanic buff every character in the game got to 6p not just nago

  • @cesarrivera286
    @cesarrivera286 2 года назад +2

    I mean nagoriyuki couldn't really benefit from some of the system mechanics changes IE air dash cancles and lower damage output so it made sense to include a buff or 2 for nag and potemkin to keep it fair.

    • @raiden3079
      @raiden3079 2 года назад

      Idk man they buffed one of the strongest characters.
      There is a possibility that, once people get more acquainted with the new patch, Nago could be the best character in the fucking game.

    • @makedislikesgreatagain7682
      @makedislikesgreatagain7682 2 года назад

      Lol no

    • @cesarrivera286
      @cesarrivera286 2 года назад +1

      It might be the opposite too. Everybody said nag was bottom 2 remember. Now look at the kind of conversations we're having. Have patience.

    • @lemonrancher1037
      @lemonrancher1037 2 года назад

      @@raiden3079 they buffed all of the best character except chipp wtf

    • @sussymaximo9014
      @sussymaximo9014 2 года назад

      Considering he already dealt stupid damage from AAs, No.

  • @lachlancoombes2489
    @lachlancoombes2489 2 года назад

    I’m sure as hell ain’t gonna complain with sol getting buffed

  • @srseki
    @srseki 2 года назад +1

    Fans: everyone complains beyblade is 0 on block
    ASW: sure, let me make the clone plus on block
    ruclips.net/video/7pdQvQCR8lA/видео.html
    Also he can combo JD from JS, make his round start 5K combo even more crazy

  • @Its_Miikii
    @Its_Miikii 2 года назад

    Honestly, despite getting obviously buffed, I think it's important not to look at the changes in a vacuum- his 6p and dp changes mostly help fight against the massive amount of options 90% of the cast got in the air. Similarly, his increased pressure makes his command grab a more of a threat rather than get mashed out of by everyone's new 5 frame normals. His zameryuki change is super powerful! but it still uses the same blood as beyblade or dp- meaning using it to get in means less blood on the table for combos, and thus less damage (or more Blood Rage). Now, I'm not saying he needed this per say or something like that, just that he got buffed to compensate for system changes he didn't benefit from as much as most of the cast.

  • @lightdrgn20
    @lightdrgn20 2 года назад

    Rip Arcade Mode

  • @itraynell
    @itraynell 2 года назад

    Remember when the game first came out and everyone was saying "He's low tier, blood gauge needed to be buffed, his movement needed to be buffed, etc." This is why early tier lists and character rankings mean absolutely nothing.

  • @renengamingburst4513
    @renengamingburst4513 2 года назад

    Let's go I'm winning

  • @dangtiendung4766
    @dangtiendung4766 2 года назад

    I’m starting to feel like Nago got the Leroy syndrome.

  • @jpVari
    @jpVari 2 года назад

    I love new Faust and Jacko is still awesome, but overall I like melty blood more and any chance this game had to pull me back (the new fd changes seem good) kind of died with the chances to ram and nago. I also dislike mays power even tho I recognize she is weaker in other ways.
    Just personal preference. I think strive is brilliant it's just not quite for me, especially now that melty is here and I love it.
    Great time to love fighting games.

  • @ConnorLHW2004
    @ConnorLHW2004 2 года назад +3

    Nago didn’t need what he got but he has become an absolute villain.

  • @TheFlyingSailorYT
    @TheFlyingSailorYT 2 года назад

    Let's be honest.
    The whole roster got buffs.

  • @Owen-zm6sq
    @Owen-zm6sq 2 года назад +1

    What you guys are tunnel visioning on is that higher tier characters also got significant buffs. Hell, 2 of these buffs are universal. Everyone got buffed this patch, if anyone's actually a scary problem it's characters who have all the damage, all the options, and an invincible reversal, which Nago doesn't have. Ram and Leo for example.

    • @johnhurley8918
      @johnhurley8918 2 года назад

      Bro, I main Nago. He's definitely in that club now. You could argue he was alread there.

    • @Aerynnh
      @Aerynnh 2 года назад

      The only thing Nago doesnt have is an invincible reversal. And ram only has her reversal with meter. Its VERY good but Nago has the same thing albeit worse. Everything else Nago has. Safety, amazing pressure, solid antiairs, very high damage, amazing neutral. He is top 5 easily. And he was top 5 before the patch lmao.

  • @NurseLee
    @NurseLee 2 года назад +6

    Increase Base damage Scalling.........Right......

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +6

      Hey I only get 50% life off a raw beyblade now it used to be like 60%

    • @NurseLee
      @NurseLee 2 года назад

      @@rooflemonger Yep. And furthermore, I'm real glad that he didn't get nerf hard and honestly, this is proably the best for Nagoriyuki too. I mean he's the only character that can kill himself out of all the characters, and it's great to see how everyone thought this dude was weak at first, and then overtime, Nagoriyuki Players pretty much told everyone, "Don't judge a book by it's cover." Great work and take care Roofle!

  • @ericaisaac64
    @ericaisaac64 2 года назад +2

    When you think about how he doesn't benefit from the new double jump or air dash cancels everyone else got, I think these buffs make sense

  • @danzixx6
    @danzixx6 2 года назад

    This nee patch. Make mu play more struggle agaisnt nagoriyuki but still fun to play

  • @cylondorado4582
    @cylondorado4582 2 года назад

    A lot of people mentioning how NRS was doing things differently, and I can't help but imagine an alternate timeline where MK11 came out and they were like, "Oh, you don't like Sonya? STFU, we buffed Sonya."

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling 2 года назад

    FD and throw prc nerfs hurt Nago more than anything else, but yeah he’s still mad top tier

    • @gcal8263
      @gcal8263 2 года назад

      I don't think so since his pressure isn't solely based on strike throw, and a lot of his moves are advancing like f.SS. even in the last patch, FD would push you out of command grab and grab range without the universal changes. Fukyo back pressure is his main tool anyway.

    • @Amaling
      @Amaling 2 года назад

      @@gcal8263 FD now pushes you back out of command grab from just one hit, it's a pretty huge change. But yes it didn't change his pressure structure as much as someone like Gio or Ky. However throw prc actually hurts his lockdown game a lot and makes command grab more of a risk. Overall he's gonna be draining blood with command grab much less this patch AND getting punished for it. Clone is a silly buff but when you're being camped at high blood you still can't follow it up so it's checkmate either way

  • @dextra_24703
    @dextra_24703 2 года назад +1

    One thing I tell people who hate to fight a character is to learn the, is that good advice.

  • @hellayeproductions6739
    @hellayeproductions6739 2 года назад +2

    I think the fact that Nagoriyuki comes with such a punishing mechanic is why he can get buffs like this. Like sure, he's still very good at high level, but he's still the only character where you will just lose the match if you use your special one too many times. Unlike most high tier characters, he's got an intrinsic limiter that you need to play around.

    • @kyeblade06
      @kyeblade06 2 года назад

      Now if the did something like make clone cost half blood for one bar then yea

    • @kei7540
      @kei7540 2 года назад

      Bruh all you have to do is get a command grab which isn't that hard then go crazy again

    • @kyeblade06
      @kyeblade06 2 года назад

      @@kei7540 depends on who you fight

  • @coolfish420
    @coolfish420 2 года назад +8

    At the end of the day, Nago still has very clear, exploitable weaknesses compared to other characters who received inexplicable buffs. He's broke now but I'll be playing him even when he gets nerfed, he's just too fun.

    • @coolfish420
      @coolfish420 2 года назад +1

      @@leithazizpagy4699 oh yeah, this isn't my first arc game. Johnny was ridiculous

  • @ligma334
    @ligma334 2 года назад

    Since arc sys can't balance shit anymore not surprised wth are they doing to this game man

  • @staaary8043
    @staaary8043 2 года назад +1

    As a Ky main i must insist that you please use anotger character do get beaten in almost every video.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +1

      Ky is one of two characters that takes exactly normal amount of damage, so presentation wise he kinda becomes the dummy

    • @staaary8043
      @staaary8043 2 года назад

      @@rooflemonger still it hurts

  • @dbfzato-1327
    @dbfzato-1327 2 года назад

    Normal nagorriyuki is fine, but stage 9 nagoriyuki is my worst enemy lol

  • @rzqhipnox1667
    @rzqhipnox1667 2 года назад +1

    Is this video too early or too late.

  • @MiketheNerdRanger
    @MiketheNerdRanger 2 года назад

    Wait, he's low damage now??

  • @damionbaxter4912
    @damionbaxter4912 2 года назад

    And yet leo got screwed.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад

      leo's fineeeee, he got tons of new corner combos

    • @damionbaxter4912
      @damionbaxter4912 2 года назад

      @@rooflemonger but he lost his run through set ups almost completely. And his 6p change is awful floats higher should say knocks full screen.

  • @HWHY
    @HWHY 2 года назад +1

    Trying to nerf Sol by buffing another character to top villain?

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад +1

      Sol got buffed too, just Nagoriyuki got buffed more

  • @voidkirb5477
    @voidkirb5477 2 года назад +2

    All the salt I see against nago is from may mains and gio mains and honestly they're coked out enough for me to be not too harsh on them for that..
    I think.

  • @Solidus510
    @Solidus510 2 года назад

    I think this is a really important lesson that patch notes aren't good enough alone to discern character strength/weakness. I thought he got stronger, but that was clearly an understatement. Appreciate the video and hope you consider doing more of these breakdowns!

  • @theblackdeath10
    @theblackdeath10 2 года назад

    you could get 6p conversion last patch aswell but if they were close enough to the ground it would otg the conversion and drop

  • @kyled.7748
    @kyled.7748 2 года назад

    I'll never understand why Nagoriyuki and Leo would get such insane buffs when they were already extremely overdue for nerfs.
    Increased range and speed is bullshit.
    Give me a break dude

  • @joshurawr
    @joshurawr 2 года назад

    The funniest thing about 1.10 for me was having matches on day 1 of the patch and RCing out of almost all of my bite command grabs before getting the actual bite because the grab option select muscle memory is stronger than my brain power. So I don’t know, seems like a nerf to me

  • @miscellaneouscam953
    @miscellaneouscam953 2 года назад

    Black Excellence.

  • @GuyManley
    @GuyManley 2 года назад

    Well GGs Hotashi, congrats on winning evo offline finals in November.

  • @johnhurley8918
    @johnhurley8918 2 года назад

    If the projectile is plus on block, that's an easy comand grab. That's huge

  • @Aerynnh
    @Aerynnh 2 года назад

    The Nago downplay needs to cease. Yall know he's top 5 stop LYING.

  • @synapticrelaps4457
    @synapticrelaps4457 2 года назад

    As a Faust main, I've kinda given up.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  2 года назад

      Why? Faust buffs are significant!!! Check yesterdays video for just a fraction of whats possible as its dedicated to Faust

  • @PennozC
    @PennozC 2 года назад +3

    almost dropped this game because of nago already lmao

  • @mysteriousfox88
    @mysteriousfox88 2 года назад

    hotashi already downplaying

  • @themadgamer319
    @themadgamer319 2 года назад

    Its wild to me that soo many people have been downplaying Nago since launch. The character was and is ludicrously powerful.

  • @makedislikesgreatagain7682
    @makedislikesgreatagain7682 2 года назад

    I remember when everyone was howling at me when I said he's a broken, cheap character from literally day one and uuggGhHgg he's such a hard, technical character blah blah blah. Lol typical, here we are now again boys.

  • @GFClocked
    @GFClocked 2 года назад +3

    As if nago needed these buffs..

  • @MaadLuck
    @MaadLuck 2 года назад +5

    This garbage character needs nerfs. Even when he's full screen it's still his turn

  • @Kentaiga
    @Kentaiga 2 года назад

    Nago is getting to the point where he evenly matched with Sol (obviously two different playstyles tho)

  • @annababydaddy
    @annababydaddy 2 года назад +1

    I don't get all the calls for Nago nerfs. Its like Nago haters just want him to be a training dummy to practice combos on. He has no movement that comes without a cost, and his specials are only good because he will actually die if he misses 3 of them. I'd be all for nerfing Nago into the ground if every other character had a blood mechanic and no movement. However, that game would suck.