Good video. I want to try a Monkey. I do happen to prefer the look of the Trail125 but that's personal preference.I agree on the seat of the Trail125. I hope it breaks in after some saddle time. I've had dirtbike stock saddles that after a year of riding felt better. Here's hoping.
The Monkey is a very very fun and amazingly comfortable platform. I think you'd definitely like it. Yeah, that Trail125 seat. I'm smaller and well below the weight specs and that seat still reminds of me of an elementary school desk seat from back in the day 🤕👎. I DEFINITELY am getting a Corbin once they put them up on their site.
You could just boil this comparison down to: One is a tool, one is a toy. The Monkey is for playing on the street. The CT is for grocery runs, hunting / fishing / utility work.
Thanks 🙂! Fun bikes both of them. And thanks for the leathers respect 😎. The Goose's outfit is my favorite. I don't get to wear this much of the year in hot Florida 🥵🌡☀️
Getting monkeys rear wheel up is super easy! Just lift the right side a bit and put a block of wood vertically under the frame on right side, you have the side stand keeping it up on the left! I swipe and oil my chains after every ride. I have removed the air boxes side covers, so it looks a lot smaller and not so bulky. Also added couple of nice stickers there too. Left front and right. Airbox looks just fine now.
Awesome and I hope it has a break-in phase like all their other seats then gets more comfy. So cool you got the first one. I really appreciate you sharing this information. Thanks 🙂!
I bought 2 new Monkey's when they first came out, a yellow and a red. I wished I had kept the yellow. They are not set up for a big man and the breaks are not fit for high speed. The 125 fits a taller guy and with handlebar risers allows for riding standing up on the pegs. The trail is a low cost trail bike and the Money just isn't a trail bike. I do plan on buying a CT125 however I sold the 2 Monkey's I bought and really don't miss them. The CT will offer customizing with racks and it has great rugged luggage capability
Awesome video as always. Very informative. The Monkey is also very capable off road. In an upcoming video I take mine up some muddy hills and bumpy roads with the stock tyres. This humble little bike just keeps surprising me… keep up the excellent work brother. Cheers Dean
Yeah, after watching your off road video series you definately showcase the Monkey's off roading abbilities. Very impressive for oem tires and suspension. Out of curiosity has your headlight bezel loosened up any from vibration? John 5xr showcased that small issue.
@@monkeydixadventures Awesome. Yeah I put some locktite on mine as a precaution. Glad you've not had issues. Those super bouncy rocky roads you went surely put it to the test.
I've been on the fence with the Trail125 but the complete lack of availability here helps keep me on my Monkey. I just happen to like the style of the Monkey too much.
I think you have done awesome things with your Monkey. If it meant selling it in order to get a Trail125 I personally would not do so. You've got a great set up and seem to still have fun on it 👍
I like the thought of off roading on the Trail 125. But realistically where I am in FL there aren't a lot of places to go off road. So the bulk of my riding would be on the roads. Bummer that the Honda dealer has a trail right now but no Monkeys. thanks for the comparison.
Thanks Greg 🙂! I absolutely agree. I live in flatlands Florida as well. I envy the folks who have cool terrain to ride in. For the same reasons you mentioned I mostly am an on road rider as well. At least we can ride year round though. The bike shortage thing is still very alive and well. Hopefully they will get a Monkey in soon for you 🐵🤞
I just purchased a lightly used 2020 Honda CT 125 (135-bore kit). You are right about road v.s. trails use. I use the CT 125 for quick trips around the house and to the market. I'll sometimes ride to the city (42 km away) but it is not a long-distance road motorcycle. What is the top speed of the 4-speed and 5-speed two motorcycles?
The Trail125 goes 53mph max on a flat road and no head wind. The Monkey will go around 58-60mph with the similar terrain. Both of mine have oring chains though, which I've been told slows them down and creates engine drag. Also neither have any engine modifications besides the aftermarket exhaust.
Great review/comparison. Love the outfit. Looks like you're wearing something straight outta the very first Mad Max movie which was my favorite. Leaning towards the CT 125. Gonna do some traveling/off grid camping and it sure seems like a must have as a addition to the gear I'll be bringing. Curious, as a first time bike owner, which of the 2 would you recommend? Would either of the 2 be easier/first timer user friendly to work on or be less maintenance?Thanks for the segment.
Thanks Machu Pichu 🙂! Hey, that's the look I was going for. I think that dude on iconic Mad Max poster just looks pure 100% bad ass. Although thats the Goose's helmet so not to sure if its Max or Goose. For mostly off roading I'd prefer the Trail125. But if your only going to do off roading some of the time and plan on getting some bike training in on road the rest of the time I'd go for the Monkey. Reason being the Monkey will let you train on a regular bike transmission, which is important. I say this from knowing someone whose first bike had a centrifugal transmission, they sold it because in the end they wanted a regular bike transmission. The new 2022 Monkeys have a dedicated simple oil filter. Thats huge in my opinion and a big time saver maintenance wise. Trail125 still has the oil spinner which requires taking the side cover and kick start bits apart. Dooable, but I'd rather spend more time riding. Plenty of folks take Monkeys offroad and they fair well. I'd just not want to do it long term. The Monkey is listed as a street bike by Honda not to mention. Definitely watch others videos on this topic to get the big picture. Buying a bike is very costly so you want to get something that's a good fit for what riding you will be doing mostly. Hope this information helps.
I agree 🐒💛🍌. And most comfortable. It's funny how no matter one's build the bike is still able to accommodate. One could just upgrade the shocks if need be for heavier weights at a not so costly price. I wish I had the 2022's upgrades; but I'm not going to bother upgrading unless I get some catastrophic engine problem in the future. Honda seems to have blacked out quite a bit on the newer versions paints. I'm not real hip on that aspect, but its still 🔥 looking. Have you seen a cross comparison yet re: old vs new? Curious to see how much difference the performance enhancements really make.
@@TheJosephayal I was actually just looking at that on a yellow 22' at a dealer nearby. They even ghosted the Monkey decal on the tool kit cover. The blacked out rims and swingarm to me makes it less vintage and more off-roadish looking. To each their own, but I'm with you... I like the original paint scheme better 🙂👍
Thats because your super cool 😎. Thanks 🙂! I've always loved RE. Awesome how they manage to keep it alive. Definately going to watch their newest movie 🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟
I started out on a Trail 90 I bought new when 16 in 1969. I love the idea of the CT-125, but the more videos I watch on this bike the more I am convinced a TW-200 or a KLR-250 would be a better choice.
If your on a budget and can only afford one I agree. I just purchased a Yamaha XT250 to go longer and rougher rides. The Trail125 can do all that as evident by Okie in Thailand and CT125 Adventures who are doing the TAT with them. I've owned the Kawasaki Super Sherpa, KLR250, KLR650, DRZ400SM as well. They were all fun DP bikes. To me the Trail125 is a vintage homage to the Ct90 days. Its been called one of the early DP bikes from what I've read on it. Cool you got to do the real deal back in the day on the ct90. That TW200 still intrigues me. It just looks like a blast with those tires and very cool 80's looking build.
@@findingneutral Thanks! Yes the CT-90 was a blast when I only weighed 145 pounds. I no longer have a bike, but a dirt bike is intriguing. Later in the 70's I had a 250 Suzuki 2 stroke dirt bike, lots of fun on that one.
@@66block84 Nice. My first set of wheels was a 80's Suzuki FS50 scooter. Its all I could afford washing dishes at 16yoa. But it was my freedom. That thing never let me down. Fond memories of our first wheels 😌. I've come to the conclusion I like smaller cc simplistic bikes now. A person riding a DP through the city is always more eye catching to vs big giant bikes to me. Guess its because I'm a smaller fellah with a dream of riding cool trails one day.
@@findingneutral I like to tell parents that their kids first car should be a small motorcycle. That way when they almost die numerous times, they will be a better driver. Providing of course they live through the experience.
I bought the majority of them from Beez Deels on Ebay and Webike. Essentially everything had to be imported from Thailand or Japan. I've never had an issue with shipping though. Super fast and tracking. Here's another video with a bunch of links on the majority of my stuff. My exhaust, 2 point handhuards, and a few other things have their own video. If you see something and no link feel free to ask. Hope this helps. ruclips.net/video/FWR13K3BE2E/видео.html
The new Monkey has a new engine also (2022), longer stroke and smaller bore, same as the engine on the Grom. I'm not sure how I feel about that change. A long stroke engine is better for low end torque, but a smaller bore is better for high rpm engines. I'm not sure how this is going affect highway speeds. I hope it's a slightly faster than the old model and a little more off-road grunt. That would be ideal, but everything in life is a compromise, so the new engine probably only excels a little more than the old engine in just one thing. I hope it's road speed.
You should get both. Sad that the trail 125 is not available here in Finland. I have the monkey. Monkey is great at off-road too. Can do even soft sand, due to wide tires. P. S. Easy to make more room for the rider in monkey. Just adjust handlebars a bit more forward.
I agree, 2 is company 😉. I love my Monkey though as it has so much charm. How many miles do you have on your's? What color choice did you go with 🟨🟥🟦? I concur about the Trail125 not being there. I hope Honda dies the right thing and releases them world wide 🙏
I say its Red 🟥🤔... and I cheated as I looked up your tail tidy video and saw that red shock 😁. Nice tail tidy. Crazy though how that oem lobster tail 🦞 thing actually did help slop from flinging up on your back. I figured that out real quick after luring my chain then riding it too soon. Got home and had black chain crud spattered all on my back ☹. But still the tail tidy really improves the looks.
I've not once noticed the heat on my leg... and I live in Florida. It's been an excellent exhaust for me. If your doing a ton of off roading and there's a drop potential I might not get carbon fiber though.
Both bikes in showroom condition, especially the monkey with its 5000 miles. Look brand new. Your care and attention to both bikes is spectacular. Yesterday, I brought my after market seat to a place called Narong Motorcycle Seat (Upholsterer) here in Chiang Mai. He will reupholster with new material but most importantly will add 1 inch of foam padding before reattaching the material. On top of the 1 inch foam he is going to add a additional thin layer of some other type of foam. Then will trim black vinyl in thin red and double stich the material so the appearance will be similar to the monkey seat. I will take pictures of the end result and the foam used and add them into our next video. This should help tremendously with overall comfort. Stay safe and enjoy your toys.
Thanks for the bike comments 😁. Here shortly I'll have more time to venture out away from where I live to find some places to get some dirt on my Trail125 at least. Can't wait. Your seat plans sound AWESOME. With the added padding and new stich pattern I'm confident it will look and more importantly feel amazing. Looking forward to seeing that. If it works out this will take a good amount of rider fatigue off your plate. I might even try and go find a place to model mine after your design in lieu of dropping over $500 on the Corbin. Would be cool to the upholstery tech doing some of the work if they will let you.
That was supposed to say total cost 2500 baht which is approximately $75 if you want I can send you pictures of the end results or just do a quick video of it and put it up on RUclips. At any rate I pick it up Wednesday morning
@@danielpredsox A quick video would be great. I think it might inspire a lot of us to look for upholstery places nearby. This sound like a viable alternative to an expensive Corbin. 🤞
@@findingneutral Good Afternoon, Just checking in on you. It has been quite some time since I have seen a video of yours or at least received some comments about our videos. Hope you are OK and things are good in Florida. Take care.
I think the problem with the seat is really the bar behind it. When a taller rider sits towards the back of the seat they hit their butt on the bar over bumps. When I get time I'm going to cut the bar off mine and paint the rack satin black.🤞
We don’t have a choice anyway because I’ve never seen a trail. They aren’t available in Canada and barely available in the USA. Solid review though. Trail would be perfect with a clutch.
Thanks Blain 🙂! It seemed like they were starting to surface a bit more then they stopped again. Its a shame every market can't be given them. Just read where Honda put out they are halting production of numerous models due to all the strife once more. Bummer
@@globaltraveler2381 www.ebay.com/itm/134461077203?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D250024%26meid%3D5ba406c8451741c2ab692a5c900782ff%26pid%3D101429%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D134461077428%26itm%3D134461077203%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DSimPLMWebV1%26brand%3DPyramid&_trksid=p2332490.c101429.m2460&amdata=cksum%3A1344610772035ba406c8451741c2ab692a5c900782ff%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAAA8I6qvrING7O0hZFcnxkK5HPAv91T%252Fk7pEXwt0KRqjcqHZemVtNkoceKu8IWyjT59mMtKpfkqDFlye7kZCwjqv6HCGzONFiJsnHigAR0RdH3ZVPvVsbLiHrtDqi0YYMchch5SKCB2guZz1Nst3fAL8H7aJi0adNjQfp7voYnYQV7j8JBRIpyS2HKAfqEiCf5nGsLUOQwdvMz0IGk%252F%252B4pdjiZywQWkYHQAjQZNDbptUTHNkpyCBYImggYLgQcxFHdsmH7UTb754PYvI0mD4XA1j971M0E42Y4QffdwWOuNJltPTu0tLOFvKQ6ED5t9tMtKzA%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2332490 Make sure you specify if you want a tinted inner screen or clear. Also when tightening that inner screen on do not over tighten as the screw holes will splinter. Very cool screen for sure. I swear I gained about 2mph post install.
Thanks Wes 🙂! Had to look up the XL250. Thats a sweat bike. Cool you had one. I envy everyone who had the real deals back in the day. All those bikes had soul.
@@findingneutral It was an original 1972 XL 250. I personally think 250 is the sweet spot for small motorcycles, especially for two up or on the highway.
@@wes326 Nice. Also I agree. I've owned the Kawasaki Super Sherpa, Kawasaki KLR250, and now the Yamaha XT250. This size bike fits me like a glove and is just plain fun reliability.
The top speed on average I've reached on a flat surface and no head/tail wind are 53mph on the Trail125 and 58mph on the Monkey. This is without modifying the engine or gearing.
Noooo, I didn't bother buying another after market. I heard even the Corbin was not so plush I believe from TFL. Luckily I found a local upholstery guy and he totally recrafted the oem seat like a giant Monkey seat. I have a clip up on it. I did a Honda stencil on back too. Only direction to go is up with this Earth Cruiser seat dimensions. 😅
Your spot on though... it's like the Honda seat team was like "You there! 😮👉 go find the absolute hardest nunchaku Cocobolo hardwood and widdle a seat out it! Spray paint it black then bolt it on the English version CT/Trail125 's only. And tell all your cousins making fancy expensive aftermarket seats to use only the hardest oldest phone books and pea gravel to stuff their's". 🫲🥸🫴 Sadly, I had a 1970 Ct90 with an oem seat and it was amazingly plush and comfortable?!? Why Honda? Why!?! I hate throwing money away on seats. But my life back double fushion dictates otherwise. It's modify or upgrade or get rid of the bike. Hope you got a laugh out my saga. Rock on Wabalaka 🤘 😊
I envy you. You obviously know how to work on them having 6. I had recently bought a 1970 ct90 that I spent $1,500 on. Then another 2k on trying to refurb. I got it looking beautiful and it was my first (and last) project bike. Only problem was it needed a new top end, which I was unaware of when I bought. No one around my parts of the world would touch it. It would just drink oil and foul plugs. But that thing still started first kick and ran like a champ. I was mesmerized by the build quality of this Honda. It just felt so solid even being almost 50 years old. I recall being defeated and said to myself if I had bought this brand new I'd have cherished it and kept it immaculate. Imagine my surprise then coming across Honda's announcement they were re-releasing this model 😍. They actually feel very similar, but the seat on the ct90 was more comfortable in my opinion. Better foam no doubt. If you don't mind let me know your thoughts after comparing the two. I think it would be interesting to hear. Thanks
@@findingneutral Surprised no one wanted to touch it. I keep several parts bikes to pull spares from and most parts are still available through Honda. Certainly fun when up and running even if it takes some time and a few dollars. Someone gave me a free ‘82 Passport yesterday so I have two of those also now. Build quality on these bikes are impressive for a more entry level bike. I can understand why these have remained popular and enjoyable. Interesting the comments on the seat. Hopefully Honda will see some consumer input and spec some different foam. Anyway, enjoy your bike! They are super fun.
Monkey for a commuter bike. Just needs a rear rack of some kind. MNNTHBX maybe. Trail 125 for trout fishing and backwoods camping. Gear hauler with a plastic milk crate.
Talk about one of the worst times to release a bike everyone wants. Sorry to hear you guys cannot find one. The stuff I've been reading about them being scarce is a true bummer. However, the Monkeys are super fun as well and will surely deliver loads of good times.
I like the lower seat height and the wider tires on the Monkey, also can have a tank bag on the Monkey. I am 79 and the dealer has a Monkey and can not get the trail. And I like the Monkey because of the clutch and transmission. May buy one today 6/13/2023 hope to do so for the off road ability's. A real toss up but at my age will get the Monkey. And with that exhaust without the spark arrestor it will be illegal on BLM. And, the Monkey has a real clutch. And, for me tubeless tires are great, no tubes, just a plug kit.
You bring up excellent points. One other huge factor regarding the Monkey... hands down it's WAY more comfortable. Next to no bike to rider vibrations felt in the hands, pegs, or seat. That seat is the only OEM seat I've ever rode on that was comfortable for an entire ride and not replaced with aftermarket. And I had a flat on the Monkey, like you said no tubes is a big bonus. Hope you go get it 🙂👍
Best seat and plant my feet. Very comfortable bike. 2023 yellow Monkey got it 7/7/23 and still riding at 77 yrs. Great little commuter at 125+ mpg too. Magnetic tank bag is great, likely getting a mnnthbx rear rack and mirror extenders too. Knees get a bit sore after the 100 mile mark, no iron-butt challenge on this one.
@@toivotorvinen Awesome to hear. I like yellow out of all the colors most. Of all the bikes I've ridden the Monkey is the only one which never needed a comfort modification straight from the factory. No buzzy vibration in the hands, seat, or feet either. Pure fun all the way around.
Thanks K&D 🙂! Yes I still have it. Have not ridden much of late due to my shoulder surgery. But I do admit I hopped on the Trail125 just once 2 days after surgery and took it for a spin. Was fun until I got caught by the wife 😃🥺🤕. It's a great one armed bandit bike with its centrifugal clutch 😉👍
@@findingneutral 😂 nice! Hope the arm gets well soon, I fully understand the pain and hassle… my wife would gently tell me perhaps it’s not a good idea to be doing ……. 😆
@@kd_enterprise3404 My wife looked at me like she would have shanked me if she were holding one st the time of my crime 🤨🗡 Kind of unsettling... I was in the process of attempting to offer a logical excuse and was like ☝😀- 🙁 - 🤷♂️- 🏃♂️! Good times.
Thanks Jeffrey 🙂! And I 100% agree, that stock CT125 seat is brutal. I had mine recrafted to try and be more in line with the Monkey seat. Night and day difference in comfort.
I agree. If they are sending the new Super Cubs why not these too? You guys deserve a go at them just as much as everyone else. I think Canada isn't getting them either. Makes no sense.
You got $18k in bikes and accessories right there lmao. I want a monkey so bad. I wish Honda would make a gorilla. Hahahah but that would basically be a Yamaha tw200 which I had when I was 13. Absolutely a beast (for a 13 year old) and reliable. Now at 36….I want a monkey and a Yamaha Super Ten hahaha
Thanks American Dude 🙂! I only had a crappy bicycle at 13. You had it going on with a TW200 then. Honda has also released the Dax since this video. They are on a roll. The Tenere seems awesome. To tall for my shortness though. You got good bike taste 👍
@@90330 Cool. The new 2022? I did not want to come across as one bike being better than the other because they both have great qualities. But currently if I could own only one it would be the Monkey as I just hardtop for now. By the time I pay the Trail125 off I will finally be able to trailer it to off road locations to ride it. I'm definitely not saying the Monkey cannot off-road. Lots of people prove it can do it. I think it might take a bit more of a beating by design vs the Trail125 off-road.
@@90330 I really really hope Honda does the right thing and includes Europe in the Trail125 release. A friend of mine thinks they might be working on getting it to be EU compliant re: dual channel ABS, emissions, etc. Hope it happens 🙏
@@findingneutral Yes, I think 5 sped might have stronger 1st gear, so it can go to some steep hill. Big advantage of trail 125 for me is cargo capacity, useful in everyday life and for touring long trips.
For sure. Quasimotard does a great comparison between the Super Cub and the Trail125 on his channel. He told me the Super Cub is geared fir the hardtop and is faster due that its gearing and sprocket sizes. The Trail125 on the other hand is slower and geared more for off road low end torque.
@@findingneutral yea fawk that. You can get a real bike from Honda for less than half that. The 750. The monkey for that price should be 300cc. It would cost them not a dollar more
You are absolutely 💯 right. I swear they target this model and blow up the price absurdly. But goobers like me just cannot resist a bit if bling. I think if I could only have one thing of all if I've done it would be my seat modification... and that was created in 🇺🇸. Cool channel emoji... Elvis is the best 👑🎶
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Easy. Buy both
I agree 💯
i only like the monkey when its all decked out for offroad ;) i know im a weirdo...
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Thank you from Sydney Australia - great vid, informative and well spoken. Cheers and many thanks!
Thanks 🙂!
Good review! I prefer this style of review. No regurgitating information, but a true review. Thank you.
Thanks Los Lakers 🙂! I appreciate you checking it out and commenting.
That CT125 is beautiful. Finally got to see one in person this week and was really impressed!
Thanks 🙂! They really are stop and stare worthy 😍. Such a cool and fun bike.
Good video. I want to try a Monkey. I do happen to prefer the look of the Trail125 but that's personal preference.I agree on the seat of the Trail125. I hope it breaks in after some saddle time. I've had dirtbike stock saddles that after a year of riding felt better. Here's hoping.
The Monkey is a very very fun and amazingly comfortable platform. I think you'd definitely like it. Yeah, that Trail125 seat. I'm smaller and well below the weight specs and that seat still reminds of me of an elementary school desk seat from back in the day 🤕👎. I DEFINITELY am getting a Corbin once they put them up on their site.
You could just boil this comparison down to: One is a tool, one is a toy. The Monkey is for playing on the street. The CT is for grocery runs, hunting / fishing / utility work.
Perfect summation. I agree 👍 💯
Great video! Very informative. Mad Respect on the Mad Max leathers!!
Thanks 🙂! Fun bikes both of them. And thanks for the leathers respect 😎. The Goose's outfit is my favorite. I don't get to wear this much of the year in hot Florida 🥵🌡☀️
Getting monkeys rear wheel up is super easy!
Just lift the right side a bit and put a block of wood vertically under the frame on right side, you have the side stand keeping it up on the left!
I swipe and oil my chains after every ride.
I have removed the air boxes side covers, so it looks a lot smaller and not so bulky. Also added couple of nice stickers there too. Left front and right. Airbox looks just fine now.
Cool. Thanks for the information and comments 🙂 👍
Corbin seat is now available- they used mine for the build! It’s pretty hard too.
Awesome and I hope it has a break-in phase like all their other seats then gets more comfy. So cool you got the first one. I really appreciate you sharing this information. Thanks 🙂!
is the front tire not on backwards?
Nice vid Man! Cool to see the comparison 👍👍
Thanks 2RC 🙂!
Great review, summed up the Trail 125 perfectly. If Honda puts a 150 in it and a 5th gear it would be close to ideal
Thanks Zamdrang 🙂! And I agree with you 💯%.
And a clutch too
Yes, this is why I don’t own one yet. California freeway is 150cc and that would allow 65mph to travel a few exits.
@@bionickchief Wouldn't be a Cub if it had a clutch.
I bought 2 new Monkey's when they first came out, a yellow and a red.
I wished I had kept the yellow.
They are not set up for a big man and the breaks are not fit for high speed.
The 125 fits a taller guy and with handlebar risers allows for riding standing up on the pegs.
The trail is a low cost trail bike and the Money just isn't a trail bike.
I do plan on buying a CT125
however I sold the 2 Monkey's I bought and really don't miss them.
The CT will offer customizing with racks and it has great rugged luggage capability
I agree with your view on the bikes. Hoping you get your Trail125 very soon. Appreciate the insight you shared 👍
Finally! My Trail 125 arrived 2 weeks ago.
12 miles on it so far.
Raining too much and still 32 to 55 weather here.
Awesome video as always. Very informative. The Monkey is also very capable off road. In an upcoming video I take mine up some muddy hills and bumpy roads with the stock tyres. This humble little bike just keeps surprising me… keep up the excellent work brother. Cheers Dean
Thanks Dean 🙂! I look forward to checking your new episode out. I agree, the 🐒 never fails to deliver.
Yeah, after watching your off road video series you definately showcase the Monkey's off roading abbilities. Very impressive for oem tires and suspension. Out of curiosity has your headlight bezel loosened up any from vibration? John 5xr showcased that small issue.
@@findingneutral My headlight bezel has been fine. I know that some people put some loctite onto the threads, but I haven’t. 🐵👍
@@monkeydixadventures Awesome. Yeah I put some locktite on mine as a precaution. Glad you've not had issues. Those super bouncy rocky roads you went surely put it to the test.
I've been on the fence with the Trail125 but the complete lack of availability here helps keep me on my Monkey. I just happen to like the style of the Monkey too much.
I think you have done awesome things with your Monkey. If it meant selling it in order to get a Trail125 I personally would not do so. You've got a great set up and seem to still have fun on it 👍
I like the thought of off roading on the Trail 125. But realistically where I am in FL there aren't a lot of places to go off road. So the bulk of my riding would be on the roads. Bummer that the Honda dealer has a trail right now but no Monkeys. thanks for the comparison.
Thanks Greg 🙂! I absolutely agree. I live in flatlands Florida as well. I envy the folks who have cool terrain to ride in. For the same reasons you mentioned I mostly am an on road rider as well. At least we can ride year round though. The bike shortage thing is still very alive and well. Hopefully they will get a Monkey in soon for you 🐵🤞
I just purchased a lightly used 2020 Honda CT 125 (135-bore kit). You are right about road v.s. trails use. I use the CT 125 for quick trips around the house and to the market. I'll sometimes ride to the city (42 km away) but it is not a long-distance road motorcycle. What is the top speed of the 4-speed and 5-speed two motorcycles?
The Trail125 goes 53mph max on a flat road and no head wind. The Monkey will go around 58-60mph with the similar terrain. Both of mine have oring chains though, which I've been told slows them down and creates engine drag. Also neither have any engine modifications besides the aftermarket exhaust.
Your boots are awesome, love those alpnestars
Thanks 🙂! I really dig them as well. Part of my new Winter Mode 💫.
Great review/comparison. Love the outfit. Looks like you're wearing something straight outta the very first Mad Max movie which was my favorite. Leaning towards the CT 125. Gonna do some traveling/off grid camping and it sure seems like a must have as a addition to the gear I'll be bringing. Curious, as a first time bike owner, which of the 2 would you recommend? Would either of the 2 be easier/first timer user friendly to work on or be less maintenance?Thanks for the segment.
Thanks Machu Pichu 🙂! Hey, that's the look I was going for. I think that dude on iconic Mad Max poster just looks pure 100% bad ass. Although thats the Goose's helmet so not to sure if its Max or Goose.
For mostly off roading I'd prefer the Trail125. But if your only going to do off roading some of the time and plan on getting some bike training in on road the rest of the time I'd go for the Monkey. Reason being the Monkey will let you train on a regular bike transmission, which is important. I say this from knowing someone whose first bike had a centrifugal transmission, they sold it because in the end they wanted a regular bike transmission. The new 2022 Monkeys have a dedicated simple oil filter. Thats huge in my opinion and a big time saver maintenance wise. Trail125 still has the oil spinner which requires taking the side cover and kick start bits apart. Dooable, but I'd rather spend more time riding. Plenty of folks take Monkeys offroad and they fair well. I'd just not want to do it long term. The Monkey is listed as a street bike by Honda not to mention. Definitely watch others videos on this topic to get the big picture. Buying a bike is very costly so you want to get something that's a good fit for what riding you will be doing mostly. Hope this information helps.
@@findingneutral Definitely helps. Thankyou.
The monkey is by far the most beautiful mini bike hands down
I agree 🐒💛🍌. And most comfortable. It's funny how no matter one's build the bike is still able to accommodate. One could just upgrade the shocks if need be for heavier weights at a not so costly price. I wish I had the 2022's upgrades; but I'm not going to bother upgrading unless I get some catastrophic engine problem in the future. Honda seems to have blacked out quite a bit on the newer versions paints. I'm not real hip on that aspect, but its still 🔥 looking. Have you seen a cross comparison yet re: old vs new? Curious to see how much difference the performance enhancements really make.
@@findingneutral i have a blue 2021 monkey and i love it, the 2022 paint job looks terrible imo
@@TheJosephayal I was actually just looking at that on a yellow 22' at a dealer nearby. They even ghosted the Monkey decal on the tool kit cover. The blacked out rims and swingarm to me makes it less vintage and more off-roadish looking. To each their own, but I'm with you... I like the original paint scheme better 🙂👍
I enjoy the umbrella logo.
Thats because your super cool 😎. Thanks 🙂! I've always loved RE. Awesome how they manage to keep it alive. Definately going to watch their newest movie 🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟
I started out on a Trail 90 I bought new when 16 in 1969. I love the idea of the CT-125, but the more videos I watch on this bike the more I am convinced a TW-200 or a KLR-250 would be a better choice.
If your on a budget and can only afford one I agree. I just purchased a Yamaha XT250 to go longer and rougher rides. The Trail125 can do all that as evident by Okie in Thailand and CT125 Adventures who are doing the TAT with them. I've owned the Kawasaki Super Sherpa, KLR250, KLR650, DRZ400SM as well. They were all fun DP bikes. To me the Trail125 is a vintage homage to the Ct90 days. Its been called one of the early DP bikes from what I've read on it. Cool you got to do the real deal back in the day on the ct90. That TW200 still intrigues me. It just looks like a blast with those tires and very cool 80's looking build.
@@findingneutral Thanks! Yes the CT-90 was a blast when I only weighed 145 pounds. I no longer have a bike, but a dirt bike is intriguing. Later in the 70's I had a 250 Suzuki 2 stroke dirt bike, lots of fun on that one.
@@66block84 Nice. My first set of wheels was a 80's Suzuki FS50 scooter. Its all I could afford washing dishes at 16yoa. But it was my freedom. That thing never let me down. Fond memories of our first wheels 😌. I've come to the conclusion I like smaller cc simplistic bikes now. A person riding a DP through the city is always more eye catching to vs big giant bikes to me. Guess its because I'm a smaller fellah with a dream of riding cool trails one day.
@@findingneutral I like to tell parents that their kids first car should be a small motorcycle. That way when they almost die numerous times, they will be a better driver. Providing of course they live through the experience.
@@66block84 Funny, I've wrecked numerous times. I'm confident I learned a think or two from enduring that 🤔
Where did you get your add ons for the ct125?
I bought the majority of them from Beez Deels on Ebay and Webike. Essentially everything had to be imported from Thailand or Japan. I've never had an issue with shipping though. Super fast and tracking. Here's another video with a bunch of links on the majority of my stuff. My exhaust, 2 point handhuards, and a few other things have their own video. If you see something and no link feel free to ask. Hope this helps.
ruclips.net/video/FWR13K3BE2E/видео.html
Muy buen y bonito vehiculo. De dos ruedas cuando estará en el mercado de Colombia?
Gracias. Son divertidas motos pequeñas. ¿Un concesionario local o Honda Inc. podría decirle si se venderán allí?
would love both!
I'm with you. Best of both 🌎's
The new Monkey has a new engine also (2022), longer stroke and smaller bore, same as the engine on the Grom. I'm not sure how I feel about that change. A long stroke engine is better for low end torque, but a smaller bore is better for high rpm engines. I'm not sure how this is going affect highway speeds. I hope it's a slightly faster than the old model and a little more off-road grunt. That would be ideal, but everything in life is a compromise, so the new engine probably only excels a little more than the old engine in just one thing. I hope it's road speed.
I agree Spydie. The dedicated oil filter is the only thing I got real excited about.
You should get both.
Sad that the trail 125 is not available here in Finland.
I have the monkey.
Monkey is great at off-road too. Can do even soft sand, due to wide tires.
P. S. Easy to make more room for the rider in monkey. Just adjust handlebars a bit more forward.
I agree, 2 is company 😉. I love my Monkey though as it has so much charm. How many miles do you have on your's? What color choice did you go with 🟨🟥🟦? I concur about the Trail125 not being there. I hope Honda dies the right thing and releases them world wide 🙏
I say its Red 🟥🤔... and I cheated as I looked up your tail tidy video and saw that red shock 😁. Nice tail tidy. Crazy though how that oem lobster tail 🦞 thing actually did help slop from flinging up on your back. I figured that out real quick after luring my chain then riding it too soon. Got home and had black chain crud spattered all on my back ☹. But still the tail tidy really improves the looks.
i like the design it is very usefull and can be used for every day work .very pracktical well design easy to park
Thanks Senic 🙂! I agree. I think its roots coming from the Super Cub really shine through with how practical it truly is.
Wondering how hot the upswept exhaust gets. Is there a danger of burning your legs?
I've not once noticed the heat on my leg... and I live in Florida. It's been an excellent exhaust for me. If your doing a ton of off roading and there's a drop potential I might not get carbon fiber though.
Both bikes in showroom condition, especially the monkey with its 5000 miles. Look brand new. Your care and attention to both bikes is spectacular. Yesterday, I brought my after market seat to a place called Narong Motorcycle Seat (Upholsterer) here in Chiang Mai. He will reupholster with new material but most importantly will add 1 inch of foam padding before reattaching the material. On top of the 1 inch foam he is going to add a additional thin layer of some other type of foam. Then will trim black vinyl in thin red and double stich the material so the appearance will be similar to the monkey seat. I will take pictures of the end result and the foam used and add them into our next video. This should help tremendously with overall comfort. Stay safe and enjoy your toys.
Thanks for the bike comments 😁. Here shortly I'll have more time to venture out away from where I live to find some places to get some dirt on my Trail125 at least. Can't wait. Your seat plans sound AWESOME. With the added padding and new stich pattern I'm confident it will look and more importantly feel amazing. Looking forward to seeing that. If it works out this will take a good amount of rider fatigue off your plate. I might even try and go find a place to model mine after your design in lieu of dropping over $500 on the Corbin. Would be cool to the upholstery tech doing some of the work if they will let you.
@@findingneutral Tot
That was supposed to say total cost 2500 baht which is approximately $75 if you want I can send you pictures of the end results or just do a quick video of it and put it up on RUclips. At any rate I pick it up Wednesday morning
@@danielpredsox A quick video would be great. I think it might inspire a lot of us to look for upholstery places nearby. This sound like a viable alternative to an expensive Corbin. 🤞
@@findingneutral Good Afternoon, Just checking in on you. It has been quite some time since I have seen a video of yours or at least received some comments about our videos. Hope you are OK and things are good in Florida. Take care.
I think the problem with the seat is really the bar behind it. When a taller rider sits towards the back of the seat they hit their butt on the bar over bumps. When I get time I'm going to cut the bar off mine and paint the rack satin black.🤞
Definitely I could see that being a taller rider issue. Sounds like a good plan you have to address it.
Yes, Honda seat for the monkey set sooooo comfortable...mine sort of looks like yours.vintage garage has photos.
I agree. The Monkey seat is by far one of the best oem seats out there.
love the outfit
Thanks CR2504life 🙂!
Very informative. 👍
😎 new outfit, btw.👌😉
Thanks Raj 🙂! That's my Winter Mode... hopefully it will be winter one day in Florida 🥵.
We don’t have a choice anyway because I’ve never seen a trail. They aren’t available in Canada and barely available in the USA.
Solid review though. Trail would be perfect with a clutch.
Thanks Blain 🙂! It seemed like they were starting to surface a bit more then they stopped again. Its a shame every market can't be given them. Just read where Honda put out they are halting production of numerous models due to all the strife once more. Bummer
Where did you get that awsome wind screen?
www.ebay.com/itm/WINDSHIELD-WINDSCREEN-HONDA-CT125-TRAIL-HUNTER-2020-2021-METER-VISOR-SHIELD/114573884550?pageci=e39320a5-7af1-4ee4-86b4-e69f8b93c5f3
@@findingneutral I mean the one on the monkey. And it looks like it is color matched as well. Is that a Honda kit?
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Make sure you specify if you want a tinted inner screen or clear. Also when tightening that inner screen on do not over tighten as the screw holes will splinter. Very cool screen for sure. I swear I gained about 2mph post install.
I wish the Trail 125 was lighter, weighs almost as much as my old XL 250. Thanks for the reviews.
Thanks Wes 🙂! Had to look up the XL250. Thats a sweat bike. Cool you had one. I envy everyone who had the real deals back in the day. All those bikes had soul.
@@findingneutral It was an original 1972 XL 250. I personally think 250 is the sweet spot for small motorcycles, especially for two up or on the highway.
@@wes326 Nice. Also I agree. I've owned the Kawasaki Super Sherpa, Kawasaki KLR250, and now the Yamaha XT250. This size bike fits me like a glove and is just plain fun reliability.
I think it comes down to which color you prefer. Trail only comes in red. Monkey comes in other colors but I would only buy a banana yellow one.
Thanks Dino 🙂! I agree, that golden yellow 💛 is a beautiful thing.
How fast do these bikes go?
The top speed on average I've reached on a flat surface and no head/tail wind are 53mph on the Trail125 and 58mph on the Monkey. This is without modifying the engine or gearing.
this is my exact dilemma...
How do you buy a harder seat then the original that come with the CT? Is it made out of hardwood or something?🤣
Noooo, I didn't bother buying another after market. I heard even the Corbin was not so plush I believe from TFL. Luckily I found a local upholstery guy and he totally recrafted the oem seat like a giant Monkey seat. I have a clip up on it. I did a Honda stencil on back too. Only direction to go is up with this Earth Cruiser seat dimensions. 😅
Your spot on though... it's like the Honda seat team was like "You there! 😮👉 go find the absolute hardest nunchaku Cocobolo hardwood and widdle a seat out it! Spray paint it black then bolt it on the English version CT/Trail125 's only. And tell all your cousins making fancy expensive aftermarket seats to use only the hardest oldest phone books and pea gravel to stuff their's". 🫲🥸🫴
Sadly, I had a 1970 Ct90 with an oem seat and it was amazingly plush and comfortable?!? Why Honda? Why!?! I hate throwing money away on seats. But my life back double fushion dictates otherwise. It's modify or upgrade or get rid of the bike. Hope you got a laugh out my saga. Rock on Wabalaka 🤘 😊
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I have six CT 90’s. It will be interesting to take a ride on one of the CT 125’s for comparison.
I envy you. You obviously know how to work on them having 6. I had recently bought a 1970 ct90 that I spent $1,500 on. Then another 2k on trying to refurb. I got it looking beautiful and it was my first (and last) project bike. Only problem was it needed a new top end, which I was unaware of when I bought. No one around my parts of the world would touch it. It would just drink oil and foul plugs. But that thing still started first kick and ran like a champ. I was mesmerized by the build quality of this Honda. It just felt so solid even being almost 50 years old. I recall being defeated and said to myself if I had bought this brand new I'd have cherished it and kept it immaculate. Imagine my surprise then coming across Honda's announcement they were re-releasing this model 😍. They actually feel very similar, but the seat on the ct90 was more comfortable in my opinion. Better foam no doubt. If you don't mind let me know your thoughts after comparing the two. I think it would be interesting to hear. Thanks
@@findingneutral Surprised no one wanted to touch it. I keep several parts bikes to pull spares from and most parts are still available through Honda. Certainly fun when up and running even if it takes some time and a few dollars. Someone gave me a free ‘82 Passport yesterday so I have two of those also now. Build quality on these bikes are impressive for a more entry level bike. I can understand why these have remained popular and enjoyable. Interesting the comments on the seat. Hopefully Honda will see some consumer input and spec some different foam. Anyway, enjoy your bike! They are super fun.
@@Mr.T711Cool. You got classic rides for sure. Thanks
@@findingneutral Thanks. I enjoy collecting older things that are fun.
Monkey for a commuter bike. Just needs a rear rack of some kind. MNNTHBX maybe.
Trail 125 for trout fishing and backwoods camping. Gear hauler with a plastic milk crate.
Spot on 💯
Me, and a buddy, can't find one, anywhere in Midwest. Might settle for Monkeys.
Talk about one of the worst times to release a bike everyone wants. Sorry to hear you guys cannot find one. The stuff I've been reading about them being scarce is a true bummer. However, the Monkeys are super fun as well and will surely deliver loads of good times.
I like the lower seat height and the wider tires on the Monkey, also can have a tank bag on the Monkey. I am 79 and the dealer has a Monkey and can not get the trail. And I like the Monkey because of the clutch and transmission. May buy one today 6/13/2023 hope to do so for the off road ability's. A real toss up but at my age will get the Monkey. And with that exhaust without the spark arrestor it will be illegal on BLM. And, the Monkey has a real clutch. And, for me tubeless tires are great, no tubes, just a plug kit.
You bring up excellent points. One other huge factor regarding the Monkey... hands down it's WAY more comfortable. Next to no bike to rider vibrations felt in the hands, pegs, or seat. That seat is the only OEM seat I've ever rode on that was comfortable for an entire ride and not replaced with aftermarket. And I had a flat on the Monkey, like you said no tubes is a big bonus. Hope you go get it 🙂👍
Best seat and plant my feet. Very comfortable bike. 2023 yellow Monkey got it 7/7/23 and still riding at 77 yrs. Great little commuter at 125+ mpg too. Magnetic tank bag is great, likely getting a mnnthbx rear rack and mirror extenders too. Knees get a bit sore after the 100 mile mark, no iron-butt challenge on this one.
@@toivotorvinen Awesome to hear. I like yellow out of all the colors most. Of all the bikes I've ridden the Monkey is the only one which never needed a comfort modification straight from the factory. No buzzy vibration in the hands, seat, or feet either. Pure fun all the way around.
That is a sweet little Honda… 😊. You still have it and ride? (Trail 125)
Thanks K&D 🙂! Yes I still have it. Have not ridden much of late due to my shoulder surgery. But I do admit I hopped on the Trail125 just once 2 days after surgery and took it for a spin. Was fun until I got caught by the wife 😃🥺🤕. It's a great one armed bandit bike with its centrifugal clutch 😉👍
@@findingneutral 😂 nice! Hope the arm gets well soon, I fully understand the pain and hassle… my wife would gently tell me perhaps it’s not a good idea to be doing ……. 😆
@@kd_enterprise3404 My wife looked at me like she would have shanked me if she were holding one st the time of my crime 🤨🗡 Kind of unsettling... I was in the process of attempting to offer a logical excuse and was like ☝😀- 🙁 - 🤷♂️- 🏃♂️! Good times.
For my taste I prefer the Honda CT125 Trail but it definitely NEEDS the Monkey's SEAT for comfort riding wherever !!!
Thanks Jeffrey 🙂! And I 100% agree, that stock CT125 seat is brutal. I had mine recrafted to try and be more in line with the Monkey seat. Night and day difference in comfort.
Why Honda doesn't sell the Trail in the UK is beyond me.
I agree. If they are sending the new Super Cubs why not these too? You guys deserve a go at them just as much as everyone else. I think Canada isn't getting them either. Makes no sense.
nice work so tired of "youtube presenters" heeey welcome baak....
keep it up 👌🏻
Thanks Phil 🙂! Much appreciated.
Bring on the CT150 Honda!!! 🤞
That would be absolutely EPIC 💯 😀
Yes please
Yes Honda take my💰150cc
Monkey is just cool man! Very "Metal"!
Thanks Joe 🙂!
the obvious answer is both and a grom too
You got $18k in bikes and accessories right there lmao.
I want a monkey so bad. I wish Honda would make a gorilla. Hahahah but that would basically be a Yamaha tw200 which I had when I was 13. Absolutely a beast (for a 13 year old) and reliable. Now at 36….I want a monkey and a Yamaha Super Ten hahaha
Thanks American Dude 🙂! I only had a crappy bicycle at 13. You had it going on with a TW200 then. Honda has also released the Dax since this video. They are on a roll. The Tenere seems awesome. To tall for my shortness though. You got good bike taste 👍
@@findingneutral as do you! Ride safe.
never mind im wrong
between these two I would choose the Monkey. now they have the Dax and between the Monkkey and the Dax I don't know.
Thanks Robert 🙂! Yes, the Monkey has more class for sure. The Dax is very cool as well.
I am listening advice which one to buy from a man who could not decide which one to buy.
What type of riding are going to be doing mostly?
@@findingneutral There is no dilemma for me, I can only get a Monkey in Europe, so i ordered a blue one.
@@90330 Cool. The new 2022? I did not want to come across as one bike being better than the other because they both have great qualities. But currently if I could own only one it would be the Monkey as I just hardtop for now. By the time I pay the Trail125 off I will finally be able to trailer it to off road locations to ride it. I'm definitely not saying the Monkey cannot off-road. Lots of people prove it can do it. I think it might take a bit more of a beating by design vs the Trail125 off-road.
@@90330 I really really hope Honda does the right thing and includes Europe in the Trail125 release. A friend of mine thinks they might be working on getting it to be EU compliant re: dual channel ABS, emissions, etc. Hope it happens 🙏
@@findingneutral Yes, I think 5 sped might have stronger 1st gear, so it can go to some steep hill. Big advantage of trail 125 for me is cargo capacity, useful in everyday life and for touring long trips.
Hard choice🕵🛵
For sure. Quasimotard does a great comparison between the Super Cub and the Trail125 on his channel. He told me the Super Cub is geared fir the hardtop and is faster due that its gearing and sprocket sizes. The Trail125 on the other hand is slower and geared more for off road low end torque.
the CT of cause.multi purpose bike.
That it is 👍
I think I'm going to be a monkey man... Lol
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Monkey all the way! 😀
Thanks for sharing your pick 😀👍
They all cost $1100 more than they are worth. Way overpriced. I'd buy two monkeys if they were 1000 dollars cheaper
Honda definitely has no issues cashing in on the nostalgia vibe of their mini-moto line up. Might see some pre-2022 models take a price cut hopefully.
@@findingneutral yea fawk that. You can get a real bike from Honda for less than half that. The 750.
The monkey for that price should be 300cc. It would cost them not a dollar more
All the accessories for the CT125 are way over priced.
You are absolutely 💯 right. I swear they target this model and blow up the price absurdly. But goobers like me just cannot resist a bit if bling. I think if I could only have one thing of all if I've done it would be my seat modification... and that was created in 🇺🇸. Cool channel emoji... Elvis is the best 👑🎶
I couldn't hear a damn thing you were saying
My voice modulator was acting up that day. Apologies Daniel.
I like your look. What are your pronouns?
Thanks. Hotel Echo.
I think you’re overdressed for your job.
I'll just be wearing 👢 and 👖 soon... stay tuned.
Warro sent me.
Any friend of Warro is a friend of mine. Thanks for stopping by Nick 🙂
umm unnfp umma haauuf
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Well one looks like a moped the other looks like a mini monster lol