I've been eyeballing these for awhile. I rode an Aprilia RXV550 that's been completely built... 70hp to the wheel. But it's super loud and the power explosive... Granted my bike will absolutely smoke that thing... I gotta have one. You sold me on this one. Thanks buddy!
I can imagine the power. Once I bought myself an electric skateboard with two hub motors with power like 400W each. And max speed 42km/h. The acceleration was insane. The skateboard was huge and I could sit on it with my legs fully supported underneath. I give it a full power and I could barely hold on to it. When I'm standing on it with my feet, a full power at once always resulted in falling down of it right away, no matter how hard I'm trying to keep up.
amazing! I have a scooter with major MODs that goes 40mph and that seems too fast, but watching this was just more or appreciating the potential of EV motors and controllers
@@ancelincoude7306 Autant te dire que je l'ai attendue un moment cette upgrade, elle a su se faire désirer 😝 C'est un petit budget mais franchement, ça vaut le coup. Même avec la batterie d'origine et un bypass tu gagnes deja pas mal, ça permet de patienter jusqu'à l'upgrade batterie !
Thank you... une vidéo qui nous plonge en immersion derrière le guidon d'un joujou qui semble extraordinaire pour les amateurs du genre....et qui ne peut que donner envie de rejoindre le club des Sur Ron vitaminés....encore merci pour ce partage bien fun... good ride and good tricks...
Thing have come a long way, 5 years back I was punching 10kw on a pretty decent frame with good long travel suspension, this looks the same power but balanced with no sprung weight. What I did enjoy was pure silent, these are probably better as people know your coming. I also had to watch from spoke smashing rocks !
Riding Buzut - yep Mxus 3k hub, with hubsink coolers and oil filled to take the heat. Heat was the biggest issue, I installed a fan to cool the hub which worked wonders and doubled my use at WOT. Middrive belt would rock.
@@jestronixhanderson9898 no wayyy. Your build was a nuclear weapon! The belt is really silent but as soon as mud gets into the equation, it’s too fragile and snaps randomly.
WOAH!! That dude is in the woods, at winter time and doesn't know where he's going? I know where I'D be goin'...to the friggin' EMERGENCY ROOM, haulin' ass around, on that damn thing.
Good video fella, really down to earth biking goodness. It really shows how good and lightweight those electric bikes are and I liked your description- 300 cc two stroke in a 50 kg box.
Awesome bro!!! I love the comparison, now that I think about it, hell yeah, I realise that my dream as a kid became a reality. I really need to watch the Star Wars again 😍
Complètement dingue je veux la même ! Bravo c'est vrais que même si je ne suis pas fan des batteries actuelles ça laisse entrevoir le futur proche quand ces nouvelles batteries arriveront sur le marché ça va complètement relégué les moteur thérmiques au rang de dinausore
Oui c'est vrai qu'on a encore une belle marge de progression sur les batteries. Actuellement avec nos batteries plus grosse autonomie, on arrive à faire 70-80km en enduro, ça commence à être pas mal :)
@@marcebersberger9196 haha en tous cas super cool d’avoir l’opportunité de partager du continue en français et anglais ! Je suivrais de prêt ce que tu fais , cette vidéo était déjà démentiel
Does this affect the life of the motor? And what’s the battery life like at the power level? Does it last the same amount of time as the original battery? Very cool project brother! Excellent work!
The only thing that will degrade faster in the motor (if you don't overheat it) are the bearings, and you can change them. Almost all controllers can bet set up to decrease power or cut off at a given motor temps (there are temp sensors in the motor). This battery is almost the same Wh as the original one. So it lasts about the same time in normal riding conditions where your speed is naturally limited. Obviously, as you have more power, on fast trails with a high average speed, it's gonna go down faster.
@@kws9980 but your combustion engine is dependant on a dirty process everytime you fill your car, how many oil slicks has there been in the process of making batteries, they might have some dirt in making them, but with a renewable energy source thats it
@@kws9980 Look at the studies for gods sake please. Its absolutely clear that the production of the batteries isnt super environmentally friendly, but still electric motors are WAY better than combustion engines. After a couple thousand kilometers the electric vehicle takes over the lead by FAR. Including everything battery etc
A chain costs on average $20-$45 A sprocket costs $5-$50 Changing them is easy if you have a tool box Putting a larger sprocket (from the stock 48 to 54) will increase your torque (acceleration) and reduce your max speed by about 5 mph, which you don't need on a trail because you'll be going fast anyway (at least 30+ mph) And it's been shown to USE LESS BATTERY The stock sprocket is a 48 (tooth) The Super Moto tires/conversion kit comes with a 42 (tooth) less torque but higher top speeds for street riding Additionally there's a large selection of sprockets: 52, 54, 58, 60, 64 for this kind of riding of course which requires you to brake more often and accelerate more quickly on rough terrain, turns etc... Why do all these trail riders use a 72v32ah battery (72V the voltage or "power") (32AH capacity) There is a long range battery for Sur Ron which is a 60v50ah that's an extra 18AH compared to the stock battery. That's an extra 56.25% battery capacity!!! Why not run that battery which has almost 60% extra juice with a larger sprocket (for this type of riding), which saves you more battery while you're at it. And it doesn't even require a $400-$500 or $800 controller. It takes 5 minutes to install the bracket extender (which lets the lid close with a larger battery. That is the question.
I'm going to ask you a question: "why do they do motorbikes up to 500cc as they have a lot of gears? A 50cc should then suffice". You're partially right: a bigger sprocket will increase your torque with whatever power you have (including the stock controller). More kW and a bigger sprocket aren't mutually exclusive though. Most people equipped with a controller also change the sprocket (and have often done that before going for the power upgrade). I'm personally running the equivalent of a 52 (ratio is changed on the primary level with the chain kit, not the wheel sprocket). Also, no, the bigger sprocket won't always save some battery. At some point, even though the bigger sprocket requires less torque from the motor, it makes it go faster in the RPMs and this clearly drains the battery as soon as you're not on trials-like trails. I've conducted an extensive test if you're curious about that: ruclips.net/video/_NurZ97J2EQ/видео.html I think you're also confusing power and capacity. To be able to compare capacity of 60 and 72V batteries, you need to convert to kWh (32Ah @60V = 1920Wh whereas 32Ah @72V = 2304Wh), the bigger the voltage, the higher the capacity at equivalent Ah. Here again, it's not that simple: - You can get more power (10/12kW usually) from a good 60V battery while getting more capacity, - You can also get more capacity from a 72V (a 72V 42Ah packs more energy than a 60V 50Ah) and given the higher voltage, these batteries have the ability to provide more power at tolerable amperage (not overheating everything).
People are consuming content from all over the world. Accents are blending... it makes complete sense. I seriously doubt he’s doing it on purpose.... but even if so... who cares... I bet you said things that other people said before you, with inflections that emulated them... it’s the same thing.
@@EthanolEnthusiast maybe I read it as that you were trying to make fun of his accent changing. I hate the fact that text is so ambiguous. My bad if it wasn’t meant that way.
@@MTO_Brothers j'ai la même question et je pense qu'il veut savoir le montage en général. Controller, moteur, batterie etc... Comment un novice peut réussir à monter le même type de vélo. Déjà avoir exactement les pièces que tu as utilisé ça serait top. En réalité si tu pouvais m'en faire un c'est encore mieux. Même légèrement moins puissant ça serait bien. J'ai vu dans un commentaire que ça revenait à 4500€. Pour 3500 tu peux faire quelque-chose de bien ?
@@MTO_Brothers Idem, je serai très intéressé de profiter de tes connaissances pour un tel montage. la batterie : peut-être est-ce toi qui l'a monté, pourquoi des accu en 30C, quel support de batterie, quel BMS, etc , le choix de ton controleur (pourquoi tel type ou tel type ?), le paramétrage du controleur si il y a, enfin bref, l'ensemble des questions que tu t'ais posé pour réaliser ce proje. Merci à toi pour tes réponses.
@@lecoachxav Les Samsung 30Q c'est 15A, pas du 30C ;) Y'a plusieurs cellules qui peuvent convenir, celles-ci présentent un bon équilibre puissance/densité énergétique. Pour le BMS, c'est un 300A. Pour le paramétrage pour un contrôleur BAC c'est compliqué, mieux vaut l'acheter pré-paramétré, pour le Nucular, je suis en train de finir une vidéo sur le sujet ;)
J'ai la même c'est une tuerie je n'arrive plus à m'en séparer bientôt je vais upgarder quelque pièce anodisé et surment les pneu pour de la meilleure marque sa va accrocher la 🤟🤟😎 c'est un régale surtout quand tu a un Terrain et un bois pas loin c'est juste le top ♥️
Yo that's upsetting he zoomed past the guy on the hardtail he was just casually going for a chilled ride by the look of it lol I'd be pissed too muwhahaha
You gotta do something about that battery connector, battery side. If it touches something metal it could explode. It shouldn't be bare at the battery side but at the bike connector side.
What would you get today if looking for a similar experience. What’s the best. I live in Sweden. Awesome video looks so freaking fun. I’ve been riding mountain bike assisted pedaling in France. It’s amazing with the amount of mountains you have avaible. Thanks for the enjoyable watch.
Thank you mate! Really depends what you're looking after. I've recently switched to an Eduro (cf latest video) for a stronger enduro bike, but Surron, Talaria or the E-ride pro SS are strong machines for more singletrack oriented, lightweight & agile bikes. The eduro actually doesn't replace my other bike, it's in addition. Stay tuned for tomorrow's video to see how the Surron is still king of trails.
Man buzut, you know your surron, would like to fix mine up like yours. You have excellent advice. I could ask you countless questions on how to set the bike up.
What bomber forks did you install? Did you replace bearings with the luna options? What rotor are you using up front? Hope vented disc? You have the V-4 hope brakes....right?
Now it is properly inline with a kx100 probably. It might actually still be slower. Electric bikes still have a way to go. 13000 watts is about 17.5 HP. Kx100 has about 26 HP with 160 pounds of weight. How much does this weigh?
Smaller ones like this one almost always have one gear. Bigger ones (full size MX or enduro) might have a gearbox and a clutch. It's a technical choice, both have pros & cons.
Absolutely Beautiful Presentation on an Absolutely Beautiful 😻 Bike. WoW 🤩. I have an Adrenaline Rush just from watching your Video. Thank You 🙏. I just ordered the Segway x260 & I’m so excited I just can’t hide it. I’m guessing/hoping this battery & setup will work with the Segway also
@@MTO_Brothers Perfect 👌. Thank you 🙏. I’m a New Subscriber by the way. I’ve learned a lot from you already. I’m so thankful. 🍻. Please stay Safe & stay Free.
Alors la!je suis convaincu, j hésité a attendre la storm, mais je pense partir sur ce model upgrader directement. Je m abonne directement 💪✌🏴☠️ Sa sera genial que tu fasse un tuto pour la battery et le montage dans les 2 langues.. ca serait grandiose...
Hello ! Au delà de la puissance, c'est vraiment le chassis qui va différencier la Light et la Storm. La Storm t'es plus haut, t'as plus de garde au sol, t'as de plus gros pneus et beaucoup plus de débattements en suspensions… mais tu es beaucoup plus lourd. Donc ce sont deux machines différentes. Ça dépend de ce que tu souhaites faire avec mais aussi de ta taille/poids La Storm est ready to ride, la Light, c'est vrai que pour avoir quelque chose de comparable, il faut modifier un peu (de ce fait elles sont au même prix). Pour le montage batterie honnêtement, c'est tellement fastidieux que je ne suis pas sur de me relancer dans un montage pour le documenter. Mais il y a pleins de tutos sur RUclips!
wow that looks so fun!! im looking into getting an ebike to ride and the sur rons look nice. does that battery make it faster too or just longer range?
Not sure what the wheels are but that's a DH fork, i used to race a M3 (intense) in 2008 with a fox 40 and as a heavy rider @ 86kg i was running the fork @190 psi. 230 psi was the max if I'm not mistaken. Adding the extra 32kg plus the KW of that engine... Not sure how a DH fork would behave.
Wheels are custom hubs and MX rims. Suspensions have improved a lot since 2008. Fox 40 and the likes are built for guys up to 100kg riding Red Bull Rampage jumps. So for a medium weight rider, most impacts are fine, for heavier riders, better take extra care. I currently run my fork at 72 PSI, plenty of room for more pressure.
Hey brother how are you doing ? You Motivate me into Buying one of this ebikes I’m a big fan I’m looking into buying one I want you to recommend me the best, which one should I get should I get the Segway or the sur Ron x I know there is 160 and 260 kings hat do you think is best ?
Hey man! Both the Surron and the Segway come from the same factory. I'd advise to buy the one that you can get faster or at a better price. When it comes to the X160 (which is the Light Bee S) or the X260 which is the Light Bee X, X260/X is better: better battery, better controller, better fork, bigger wheels. But if you plan on changing all this parts right away, you might get the small one as it's cheaper, once the parts I just listed are upgraded, there's no difference (frame and motor are the same).
Hello, i would ask how you are but you look like your kicking ass. Just watched this vid and subscribed instantly, im in. F.....g awesome. May i please ask what the bike has cost you to get it to the stage it is at now. If you have time a list of the upgrades you have done and what each upgrade cost. Thank you for your time, i will keep watching and hitting the like button for you on every vid you make, please take care but push it to your limit 🙏😉
Thanks man! The bike costs around 10k with all the upgrades. You have the upgrades list in the 15kW video just here ruclips.net/video/mrZhn6nTOkU/видео.html
Nice video! I bought a sur-ron light we X 2020, last week in Luna cycle, but the range is very poor, 22 o 24 miles approx. I want to get more range, how much you spend for this new battery? and I need necessary the BAC? Or the battery works with the original BAC? And you need other stuffs? Like a new charger? Or you can charge the new battery with the original sur-ron charger? I only want more range I don't care more speed, I have to many questions because I live in Mexico and is a lot of money send the stuffs to here and I don't wanna get a mistake! Thanks! I love your videos!
Mexicooooo yeahhh. Gracias por seguir mis videos hermano! La batería la hice yo, entonces mas barata que si la hubiera comparada toda hecha. Como 1000€ en lugar del doble. Pero son mas baratas en USA porque no hay tanto impuestos como aquí. Si lo que necesitas es autonomía aumentada sin aumentar la potencia, puedes irte con una batería de 60V mas grande (tipo 50Ah). Con 60V, quedas el controlador de serie.
Great stuff! Maintenant je suis convaincu :) Une question: il existe un modèle homologué (non X) un peu moins cher. Apparement la différence se situe au niveau du controlleur qui n'est pas la version sineX. Si j'ai bien compris tu as changé le controller pour passer en 72V et avoir plus de peps. Je me demandais s'il était plus interessant de prendre la version de base moins cher en prévoyant de changer le controlleur plus tard? Et ainsi economiser quelques centaines d'euros. Merci en tout cas pour toute ces infos!
Alors la version contrôleur X existe pour le off-road comme pour la version homologuée, de même que la version non X existe pour les deux (elle se fait de moins en moins cependant). Attention, en france, seule la version homologuée est éligible à la prime. Cependant, oui, si tu songes à changer le contrôleur, autant ne pas prendre la version X…
@@MTO_Brothers J'ai appelé une concession hier, apparement la version ancienne n'existe plus, il ne reste que les version X et effectivement pour avoir la prime il faut prendre homologuée X.. not a big deal :) je verrai s'il y'a possibilité de revendre la batterie et le controlleur d'origine comme conseillé sur un forum... Merci pour la réponse.
Awesome ride! I read your description. So you think keeping it at 13kW will keep longevity on the motor? I purchased a Sur Ron a few months ago and looking for more power. This look amazing but I don't want to shorten the lifespan of my motor. I mainly ride around some trails here and there. Nothing too extreme.
It won't probably last as long, meaning that if the motor would have lasted 60 000km, it would maybe only last 40k with the additional power. But practically, if you don't overheat it, there's nothing to fear.
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For the benefit of old skool guys , 25KW = 33bhp
it was running 13kw not 25
@@Th3Ran With 50kilos weight.....
@@bladimirkroutska3707 i know
@@bladimirkroutska3707 ive ridden dirt bike that has 45+ kw and 103 kilos
I call it BS that weakass moutainbike will hold up for a week and then its done.
Sounds like a never ending tent zipper
nailed it
Was wondering where I’d heard that sound
😂
Hahahhhahaha
Best comment 😂😂😂
Ptdr le "attention, merci" Il m'a fait buger 🤣🤣
La même 😂😂
Mdr pareil je suis dit il fr ou anglais la🤣
Comment peut-on upgrader la puissance moteur ? Avec un accu de voltage plus puissant ?
Pareil lol
@@paulcadic1285 Changer de moteur tout simplement. Si tu envoies du 72v dans un moteur conçu pour recevoir du 36v il cramera.
That front wheel picking up even when your tearing it 😮
It's always ready to throw you around 😝
Well there goes my money. I need this.
That looks brutal now mate hopefully get mine pumped up soon like this.
Nice to see you here mate! Don't hesitate, you'll love it without a doubt.
@@MTO_Brothers do you do customization of sur ron ?
@@gregorygrellet378 I currently don’t offer commercial customisation service. But I’m glad to give advices if I can be of any help.
I've been eyeballing these for awhile.
I rode an Aprilia RXV550 that's been completely built... 70hp to the wheel.
But it's super loud and the power explosive...
Granted my bike will absolutely smoke that thing... I gotta have one.
You sold me on this one. Thanks buddy!
Glad that I managed to share the passion 🤩
That bike looks fun and very powerful. Good thing you have riding skills to handle all that juice!
I can imagine the power. Once I bought myself an electric skateboard with two hub motors with power like 400W each. And max speed 42km/h.
The acceleration was insane. The skateboard was huge and I could sit on it with my legs fully supported underneath. I give it a full power and I could barely hold on to it.
When I'm standing on it with my feet, a full power at once always resulted in falling down of it right away, no matter how hard I'm trying to keep up.
I can tell. 800W on a skateboard is insane!!
That contraption is mental 🔥🔥❤️ from Chester UK 🇬🇧🆒
Well ...that any post-lockdown budget re-appropriated 👌🏼
Under rated channel glad it came up on my suggested keep up the good work 💪💪
Thanks a lot man! Really helps to know that you appreciate the content 🙌
How can a channel be under-rated? Where are the ratings for channels?
amazing! I have a scooter with major MODs that goes 40mph and that seems too fast, but watching this was just more or appreciating the potential of EV motors and controllers
MERCI C'est cool que tu m'êtes des sou-titres en français vu que je suis pas bilingue ca m'aide de fou a comprendre 😁👌🏼
Je t'en prie ! Ils y sont toujours. J'oublie quand même pas les compatriotes 😀
@@MTO_Brothers aah ça fais plaisir en tout cas il bombarde de fou ton surron jsuis jaloux 😏
@@ancelincoude7306 Autant te dire que je l'ai attendue un moment cette upgrade, elle a su se faire désirer 😝
C'est un petit budget mais franchement, ça vaut le coup. Même avec la batterie d'origine et un bypass tu gagnes deja pas mal, ça permet de patienter jusqu'à l'upgrade batterie !
le "attention merci" est incroyable
beast! 😱
Thank you... une vidéo qui nous plonge en immersion derrière le guidon d'un joujou qui semble extraordinaire pour les amateurs du genre....et qui ne peut que donner envie de rejoindre le club des Sur Ron vitaminés....encore merci pour ce partage bien fun... good ride and good tricks...
Thing have come a long way, 5 years back I was punching 10kw on a pretty decent frame with good long travel suspension, this looks the same power but balanced with no sprung weight. What I did enjoy was pure silent, these are probably better as people know your coming. I also had to watch from spoke smashing rocks !
Did you have a hub drive? It was kind of silent with the belt. But the chain switch killed that silence.
Riding Buzut - yep Mxus 3k hub, with hubsink coolers and oil filled to take the heat. Heat was the biggest issue, I installed a fan to cool the hub which worked wonders and doubled my use at WOT. Middrive belt would rock.
@@jestronixhanderson9898 no wayyy. Your build was a nuclear weapon! The belt is really silent but as soon as mud gets into the equation, it’s too fragile and snaps randomly.
@@MTO_Brothers - bummer Was thinking belt was the answer , not too keen on snapping belts 20klm into a forest ride.
WOAH!! That dude is in the woods, at winter time and doesn't know where he's going?
I know where I'D be goin'...to the friggin' EMERGENCY ROOM, haulin' ass around, on that damn thing.
LOL 😆
Battery technology is making this world wild.
Hoping it’s just the beginning!
C'est bon cousin, tabarnak de trail. Tes videos me font bien plaisir
Good video fella, really down to earth biking goodness. It really shows how good and lightweight those electric bikes are and I liked your description- 300 cc two stroke in a 50 kg box.
How could he go that fast carrying those giant balls?
Brings back memories... One wet root...meet your new friend Mr. Tree..
yeah just thinking that. Cringing watching it. No fear!
Sooooooo much POWEEEEEEEER ohhh yeaaahh ohhh yeaaahh =]
The speed going through the forested area reminds me of the speedbike scene from Endor in star wars
Awesome bro!!! I love the comparison, now that I think about it, hell yeah, I realise that my dream as a kid became a reality.
I really need to watch the Star Wars again 😍
I've seen sun Ron's run ,this thing looks scaaweee.
Not sure what
them controllers are insane. its basically like a big turbo or a stage 4 map for a bike !
Couldn’t find a better metaphor! It is exactly that, still the same engine but feels like it’s been upgraded 🚀
Thats crazy! Nice to know, future is now.
Complètement dingue je veux la même ! Bravo c'est vrais que même si je ne suis pas fan des batteries actuelles ça laisse entrevoir le futur proche quand ces nouvelles batteries arriveront sur le marché ça va complètement relégué les moteur thérmiques au rang de dinausore
Oui c'est vrai qu'on a encore une belle marge de progression sur les batteries. Actuellement avec nos batteries plus grosse autonomie, on arrive à faire 70-80km en enduro, ça commence à être pas mal :)
Je pensais c’était un anglais et là j’entend « Attention merci »
Hahaha, vu la météo on aurait pu se croire en Angleterre 🤣 Mais c’est dans la région de Lyon !
Pareil je suis sur le cul, normalement les français qui parlent anglais on les grille tout de suite. Bravo à toi
@@marcebersberger9196 100% il est pas français gros , peut être double nationalité que sais je
@@fgenduro8030 évidemment, c'est non seulement possible mais également très probable
@@marcebersberger9196 haha en tous cas super cool d’avoir l’opportunité de partager du continue en français et anglais !
Je suivrais de prêt ce que tu fais , cette vidéo était déjà démentiel
Insane power and insane riding! I just watched a review of an electric street bike with similar crazy performance. Thanks!
This is crazy, I need one 😩
I bet you do pal!
Me too im considering selling my r1 and getting one of these lol
@@tonyw2960 Definitely not the same, but you'll have fun on it!
@@MTO_Brothers I live on the Isle of Wight so one of these would give me access to a lot of the trails that are a bit small for my buggy
@@tonyw2960 you have a great terrain there!! Been there some time ago. You’ll definitely be stealthier with the Surron than with a petrol bike
this is so sick like nobody hear u rippin the shit out of it just perfect what a ripper
Ça régale ! 🤘🏻
4:24 Le son moteur avec le kit primary en 72V.... oh le kiff !
On est d'accord ! T'as pas voulu regarder ma vidéo précédente sur le kit chaine, tu vois t'as tout loupé :p
Amazing machine 💥😍
Awesome bike, awesome dirt track!
Does this affect the life of the motor? And what’s the battery life like at the power level? Does it last the same amount of time as the original battery? Very cool project brother! Excellent work!
The only thing that will degrade faster in the motor (if you don't overheat it) are the bearings, and you can change them.
Almost all controllers can bet set up to decrease power or cut off at a given motor temps (there are temp sensors in the motor).
This battery is almost the same Wh as the original one. So it lasts about the same time in normal riding conditions where your speed is naturally limited.
Obviously, as you have more power, on fast trails with a high average speed, it's gonna go down faster.
Man, you’ve got some skills.
I can tell. Keep it up man, you just earned another subscriber. 🤙✌️
Thanks a lot man! Glad you"re on board, I'll try to keep video coming 🤟
Alors la tu m’as scotché, ton anglais est incroyable pour un français ! Et au final quand tu parles français on entend l’accent anglais
A moins que ce soit son français qui est incroyable pour un Anglais. lol.
@@shredder8513 Non dans un autre commentaire il a dit qu’il était bien français
@@Simon-rl5vz Ha? Désolé, j'ai loupé ce commentaire. Alors effectivement, son anglais est très impressionnant.
Nice riding skills. Had some good wheelies in there as well. Nice work
Thanks man!
Insane!
wow it is something I need in my life 💪
*BEAUTIFUL RIDE!* I love how electric dirtbike or‘s don’t damage the trees or the environment 🌲👍
ye
You should see what it take and how they make the batteries. You thought gas was bad. Lol
@@kws9980 but your combustion engine is dependant on a dirty process everytime you fill your car, how many oil slicks has there been in the process of making batteries, they might have some dirt in making them, but with a renewable energy source thats it
Operating them has the same impact as dirt bikes
@@kws9980 Look at the studies for gods sake please. Its absolutely clear that the production of the batteries isnt super environmentally friendly, but still electric motors are WAY better than combustion engines. After a couple thousand kilometers the electric vehicle takes over the lead by FAR. Including everything battery etc
Ça a l'air super puissant
Beast mode 💯
Indeed, the beast has been unleashed 😝
Kuanto bale la moto sikleta qe tiene modelo de una bici
When he turned the camera and I saw he wasn’t wearing a helmet... I said a small prayer
The camera is on the helmet! I’m not suicidal 👌
@@MTO_Brothers Ahh I can sleep now 😂
Nice man!
A chain costs on average $20-$45
A sprocket costs $5-$50
Changing them is easy if you have a tool box
Putting a larger sprocket (from the stock 48 to 54) will increase your torque (acceleration) and reduce your max speed by about 5 mph, which you don't need on a trail because you'll be going fast anyway (at least 30+ mph)
And it's been shown to USE LESS BATTERY
The stock sprocket is a 48 (tooth)
The Super Moto tires/conversion kit comes with a 42 (tooth) less torque but higher top speeds for street riding
Additionally there's a large selection of sprockets: 52, 54, 58, 60, 64 for this kind of riding of course which requires you to brake more often and accelerate more quickly on rough terrain, turns etc...
Why do all these trail riders use a 72v32ah battery (72V the voltage or "power") (32AH capacity)
There is a long range battery for Sur Ron which is a 60v50ah that's an extra 18AH compared to the stock battery.
That's an extra 56.25% battery capacity!!!
Why not run that battery which has almost 60% extra juice with a larger sprocket (for this type of riding), which saves you more battery while you're at it. And it doesn't even require a $400-$500 or $800 controller. It takes 5 minutes to install the bracket extender (which lets the lid close with a larger battery.
That is the question.
I'm going to ask you a question: "why do they do motorbikes up to 500cc as they have a lot of gears? A 50cc should then suffice".
You're partially right: a bigger sprocket will increase your torque with whatever power you have (including the stock controller). More kW and a bigger sprocket aren't mutually exclusive though. Most people equipped with a controller also change the sprocket (and have often done that before going for the power upgrade). I'm personally running the equivalent of a 52 (ratio is changed on the primary level with the chain kit, not the wheel sprocket).
Also, no, the bigger sprocket won't always save some battery. At some point, even though the bigger sprocket requires less torque from the motor, it makes it go faster in the RPMs and this clearly drains the battery as soon as you're not on trials-like trails. I've conducted an extensive test if you're curious about that: ruclips.net/video/_NurZ97J2EQ/видео.html
I think you're also confusing power and capacity. To be able to compare capacity of 60 and 72V batteries, you need to convert to kWh (32Ah @60V = 1920Wh whereas 32Ah @72V = 2304Wh), the bigger the voltage, the higher the capacity at equivalent Ah.
Here again, it's not that simple:
- You can get more power (10/12kW usually) from a good 60V battery while getting more capacity,
- You can also get more capacity from a 72V (a 72V 42Ah packs more energy than a 60V 50Ah) and given the higher voltage, these batteries have the ability to provide more power at tolerable amperage (not overheating everything).
Also, have a look at my video 72V vs 60V for an in depth comparison.
ruclips.net/video/rHad0lyn8ZM/видео.html
good ride dude! New sub!
Thanks mate! I’ll try to keep up with good content 😀
Sickening ride bruh🤯
Awesome. I love how your accent changes 🤣
Changes with the mood! I don’t even notice it 🤣
People are consuming content from all over the world. Accents are blending... it makes complete sense. I seriously doubt he’s doing it on purpose.... but even if so... who cares... I bet you said things that other people said before you, with inflections that emulated them... it’s the same thing.
@@erikjonromnes He said it in a good way! Remember that I'm not a native speaker. I should use the French accent, everyone will love it 😝
@@erikjonromnes Can you read? In what way was that negative?
@@EthanolEnthusiast maybe I read it as that you were trying to make fun of his accent changing. I hate the fact that text is so ambiguous. My bad if it wasn’t meant that way.
hey riding buzut, craaaaazy video, hey where you bought the cells
Hey man! At the time I had got them from nkon.nl You're up for building it yourself?
Salut mec super vidéo, je suis intrigué par ton montage serai t’il possible d’avoir un vidéo explicative? Merci d’avance
Salut Victor, merci ! Le montage du contrôleur tu veux dire ?
@@MTO_Brothers j'ai la même question et je pense qu'il veut savoir le montage en général. Controller, moteur, batterie etc...
Comment un novice peut réussir à monter le même type de vélo.
Déjà avoir exactement les pièces que tu as utilisé ça serait top.
En réalité si tu pouvais m'en faire un c'est encore mieux.
Même légèrement moins puissant ça serait bien.
J'ai vu dans un commentaire que ça revenait à 4500€.
Pour 3500 tu peux faire quelque-chose de bien ?
@@MTO_Brothers
Idem, je serai très intéressé de profiter de tes connaissances pour un tel montage. la batterie : peut-être est-ce toi qui l'a monté, pourquoi des accu en 30C, quel support de batterie, quel BMS, etc , le choix de ton controleur (pourquoi tel type ou tel type ?), le paramétrage du controleur si il y a, enfin bref, l'ensemble des questions que tu t'ais posé pour réaliser ce proje.
Merci à toi pour tes réponses.
@@lecoachxav Les Samsung 30Q c'est 15A, pas du 30C ;)
Y'a plusieurs cellules qui peuvent convenir, celles-ci présentent un bon équilibre puissance/densité énergétique.
Pour le BMS, c'est un 300A.
Pour le paramétrage pour un contrôleur BAC c'est compliqué, mieux vaut l'acheter pré-paramétré, pour le Nucular, je suis en train de finir une vidéo sur le sujet ;)
@@MTO_Brothers Top et merci pour la réponse. Petite info avais-tu déjà vu la CZEM Drill ? non non c'est pas une perceuse mais drill est bien son nom
J'ai la même c'est une tuerie je n'arrive plus à m'en séparer bientôt je vais upgarder quelque pièce anodisé et surment les pneu pour de la meilleure marque sa va accrocher la 🤟🤟😎 c'est un régale surtout quand tu a un Terrain et un bois pas loin c'est juste le top ♥️
Yo that's upsetting he zoomed past the guy on the hardtail he was just casually going for a chilled ride by the look of it lol I'd be pissed too muwhahaha
Im sure legislation will come.
@@johnsheetz6639 for what?
For perfomance e bikes. Because karens or somebody gets hurt being too fast on bike paths.
@@johnsheetz6639 Most bike paths are rated for certain categories of bike / ebike, already, though
nice blue theme!!!!!!!!!!!! looks neat!
Thanks!
Trop bien. C’est vers le col de la luère dans les monts du lyonnais. En tout ça ça marche super fort
Yes bien vu !
Gracias por Compartir esta aventura 👍
Gracias a ti!
what an awesome looking place to ride
Damn that thing rips!
Extra et merci pour ta vidéo, amitiés.
You gotta do something about that battery connector, battery side. If it touches something metal it could explode. It shouldn't be bare at the battery side but at the bike connector side.
Wow! Mines coming this week :)
No doubt, you’ll love it!
What would you get today if looking for a similar experience. What’s the best. I live in Sweden. Awesome video looks so freaking fun. I’ve been riding mountain bike assisted pedaling in France. It’s amazing with the amount of mountains you have avaible. Thanks for the enjoyable watch.
Thank you mate! Really depends what you're looking after. I've recently switched to an Eduro (cf latest video) for a stronger enduro bike, but Surron, Talaria or the E-ride pro SS are strong machines for more singletrack oriented, lightweight & agile bikes.
The eduro actually doesn't replace my other bike, it's in addition.
Stay tuned for tomorrow's video to see how the Surron is still king of trails.
that thing looks like death on wheels I love it
That is impressive machine man. 👏
I’ve been telling people to put an alternator where the pedal kit goes and make it alternately charge to extend range
The motor is already an alternator when it's working in regen mode, so there's no need for another one. Or I've missed your point!
Very good camera!
This is so cool. I really would like to get something like this.
Go try one mate! There’s probably a dealer nearby 🤘
Cant wait to get one I'm here in CA On soo cool Sur Ron eBike also sushed
Ca régal ce petit run Col de la luère !
On est quand même chanceux d’avoir ça prêt de chez nous ❤️
Looks fun
Man buzut, you know your surron, would like to fix mine up like yours. You have excellent advice. I could ask you countless questions on how to set the bike up.
Go on man, ask! I’ll be happy to help 👍
Did you do all your upgrades yourself?
What bomber forks did you install? Did you replace bearings with the luna options? What rotor are you using up front? Hope vented disc? You have the V-4 hope brakes....right?
Now it is properly inline with a kx100 probably. It might actually still be slower. Electric bikes still have a way to go. 13000 watts is about 17.5 HP. Kx100 has about 26 HP with 160 pounds of weight. How much does this weigh?
little knowledge on electric dirt bikes. is the gear still manual? or is it just using one gear for the whole acceleration ?
Smaller ones like this one almost always have one gear. Bigger ones (full size MX or enduro) might have a gearbox and a clutch.
It's a technical choice, both have pros & cons.
Absolutely Beautiful Presentation on an Absolutely Beautiful 😻 Bike. WoW 🤩. I have an Adrenaline Rush just from watching your Video. Thank You 🙏. I just ordered the Segway x260 & I’m so excited I just can’t hide it. I’m guessing/hoping this battery & setup will work with the Segway also
Thank you for your enthusiasm, it's energising! Yes the setup will definitely work on the x260 ⚡️
You'll love it!
@@MTO_Brothers Perfect 👌. Thank you 🙏. I’m a New Subscriber by the way. I’ve learned a lot from you already. I’m so thankful. 🍻. Please stay Safe & stay Free.
Alors la!je suis convaincu, j hésité a attendre la storm, mais je pense partir sur ce model upgrader directement.
Je m abonne directement 💪✌🏴☠️
Sa sera genial que tu fasse un tuto pour la battery et le montage dans les 2 langues.. ca serait grandiose...
Hello !
Au delà de la puissance, c'est vraiment le chassis qui va différencier la Light et la Storm.
La Storm t'es plus haut, t'as plus de garde au sol, t'as de plus gros pneus et beaucoup plus de débattements en suspensions… mais tu es beaucoup plus lourd.
Donc ce sont deux machines différentes. Ça dépend de ce que tu souhaites faire avec mais aussi de ta taille/poids
La Storm est ready to ride, la Light, c'est vrai que pour avoir quelque chose de comparable, il faut modifier un peu (de ce fait elles sont au même prix).
Pour le montage batterie honnêtement, c'est tellement fastidieux que je ne suis pas sur de me relancer dans un montage pour le documenter. Mais il y a pleins de tutos sur RUclips!
Del grupo B..un infierno..
Awesome ❤️❤️❤️❤️🦾🦾🦾🦾
wow that looks so fun!! im looking into getting an ebike to ride and the sur rons look nice. does that battery make it faster too or just longer range?
They are super cool bikes because they're easy to upgrade. The battery barely packs more energy, it's mainly for power.
Wicked bike!!
That’s Fuckin lit perfect amount of power that’s like a 400 crosser 🔥🤘🏻
Exactly man! Perfect balance power/weight ratio!
Not sure what the wheels are but that's a DH fork, i used to race a M3 (intense) in 2008 with a fox 40 and as a heavy rider @ 86kg i was running the fork @190 psi. 230 psi was the max if I'm not mistaken. Adding the extra 32kg plus the KW of that engine... Not sure how a DH fork would behave.
Wheels are custom hubs and MX rims.
Suspensions have improved a lot since 2008. Fox 40 and the likes are built for guys up to 100kg riding Red Bull Rampage jumps. So for a medium weight rider, most impacts are fine, for heavier riders, better take extra care.
I currently run my fork at 72 PSI, plenty of room for more pressure.
future!!!!!!
Hell yeah looks fun
And it issss!
Hey brother how are you doing ? You Motivate me into Buying one of this ebikes I’m a big fan I’m looking into buying one I want you to recommend me the best, which one should I get should I get the Segway or the sur Ron x I know there is 160 and 260 kings hat do you think is best ?
Hey man!
Both the Surron and the Segway come from the same factory. I'd advise to buy the one that you can get faster or at a better price.
When it comes to the X160 (which is the Light Bee S) or the X260 which is the Light Bee X, X260/X is better: better battery, better controller, better fork, bigger wheels.
But if you plan on changing all this parts right away, you might get the small one as it's cheaper, once the parts I just listed are upgraded, there's no difference (frame and motor are the same).
Tabarnak c'est violent ! Combien sa coute cette machine ?!
Ça a l’air de bien marcher ton jouet 👌
Oui c'est plutôt grisant 😝
Awesome video !
Incroyable 😍
Hello, i would ask how you are but you look like your kicking ass. Just watched this vid and subscribed instantly, im in. F.....g awesome. May i please ask what the bike has cost you to get it to the stage it is at now. If you have time a list of the upgrades you have done and what each upgrade cost. Thank you for your time, i will keep watching and hitting the like button for you on every vid you make, please take care but push it to your limit 🙏😉
Thanks man!
The bike costs around 10k with all the upgrades. You have the upgrades list in the 15kW video just here ruclips.net/video/mrZhn6nTOkU/видео.html
Nice video! I bought a sur-ron light we X 2020, last week in Luna cycle, but the range is very poor, 22 o 24 miles approx. I want to get more range, how much you spend for this new battery? and I need necessary the BAC? Or the battery works with the original BAC? And you need other stuffs? Like a new charger? Or you can charge the new battery with the original sur-ron charger? I only want more range I don't care more speed, I have to many questions because I live in Mexico and is a lot of money send the stuffs to here and I don't wanna get a mistake! Thanks! I love your videos!
Mexicooooo yeahhh. Gracias por seguir mis videos hermano!
La batería la hice yo, entonces mas barata que si la hubiera comparada toda hecha. Como 1000€ en lugar del doble. Pero son mas baratas en USA porque no hay tanto impuestos como aquí. Si lo que necesitas es autonomía aumentada sin aumentar la potencia, puedes irte con una batería de 60V mas grande (tipo 50Ah). Con 60V, quedas el controlador de serie.
Great stuff! Maintenant je suis convaincu :)
Une question: il existe un modèle homologué (non X) un peu moins cher. Apparement la différence se situe au niveau du controlleur qui n'est pas la version sineX.
Si j'ai bien compris tu as changé le controller pour passer en 72V et avoir plus de peps.
Je me demandais s'il était plus interessant de prendre la version de base moins cher en prévoyant de changer le controlleur plus tard?
Et ainsi economiser quelques centaines d'euros.
Merci en tout cas pour toute ces infos!
Alors la version contrôleur X existe pour le off-road comme pour la version homologuée, de même que la version non X existe pour les deux (elle se fait de moins en moins cependant).
Attention, en france, seule la version homologuée est éligible à la prime. Cependant, oui, si tu songes à changer le contrôleur, autant ne pas prendre la version X…
@@MTO_Brothers J'ai appelé une concession hier, apparement la version ancienne n'existe plus, il ne reste que les version X et effectivement pour avoir la prime il faut prendre homologuée X.. not a big deal :) je verrai s'il y'a possibilité de revendre la batterie et le controlleur d'origine comme conseillé sur un forum... Merci pour la réponse.
Awesome ride! I read your description. So you think keeping it at 13kW will keep longevity on the motor? I purchased a Sur Ron a few months ago and looking for more power. This look amazing but I don't want to shorten the lifespan of my motor. I mainly ride around some trails here and there. Nothing too extreme.
It won't probably last as long, meaning that if the motor would have lasted 60 000km, it would maybe only last 40k with the additional power. But practically, if you don't overheat it, there's nothing to fear.
@@MTO_Brothers - Thanks for the reply. What you said makes sense. I'll have to give it some thought. I really do want more power.
@@JMGENTERPRISES it’s really an awesome improvement, that’s for sure!
What's the range on these after a full charge roughly. Cheers
Where did you buy the battery? 🔋
5:56 you was very close to a wild ride.
Could see it coming, but better not hitting that log!
Impressive!
You're a madman.