Why did Jesus Choose Judas to be a Disciple? | Hard Questions
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2015
- Did you ever wonder WHY Jesus chose Judas to be a disciple? If God knows everything, why would he chose a follower who would betray him? Our panel brings their Bibles and their brains to the table to try to solve this mystery.
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I love this panel to answer some important bible questions
Thank you for your answers pastors
Great discussion
Thank you for this video
personally I don't think Judas actually thought they were going to kill him, and when he truly found out is when he lost it!
Me too. I read an explanation by william barclay which makes most sense to me. Judas thought of Jesus only as a political messiah with hidden divine powers waiting to be revealed. He thought of speeding up the process by cornering Jesus using his enemies because he couldnt wait to be a prince in the new kingdom.
just remember, people were probably donating quite a bit for the cause, and Judas was in charge of the money! that means he probably was overseeing food and supplies, he may not have been around to see many of the miracles. just saying!
I agree. We are all different he was trying to help with his free will!
@@sjohn640 Crap; pure speculation not in the bible.
Well done.
Beautiful conversation
This was a great panel and discussion. Please post their names in the description or chat. Thanks
I received a deep revelation of this one:
Why when the Lord stated "one of you will betray me" why oh why, did Judas say "Lord is it I?"
Instead of...Lord may I speak to you...I've been stealing from you from Go! I've been doing this or that evil thing Have mercy on me and change me..help me Lord I am sorry"
Heat either hardens the clay...or purifies it..
Wonder what the outcome would have been with confession and repentance with that open window..the question/statement from Christ
honey bee3, Thank you for sharing this insight! I have been struggling with this question.
@@denisefox6495 i have made a video about it if you touch the button by honeybee look up my video about those i knew...
Gods ways are mysterious. Yet He is always speaking to us to keep us on the strait and narrow
We MUST listen
and keep the weeds out of our hearts...
We all have struggles
When treated atrocious we want vengance... God gets it... However vegence belongs to Him and not us...
Love and Forgive is our effort🦓❣️
Help!!!!,
Is what i say
Well, if Judas came to Jesus like this and asked for forgiveness, Jesus would have had to pick some other poor sap to betray Him. He needed a betrayal after all.
Some of this religious talk has caused so much suffering and I wish most Christians would actually try being Christians for one hour as most never do. They just think they do and chat religion all day.
Judas Iscariot was hoping to have a high rank beside Christ whom he thought will be the victorious King of Israel. Many elements led to Judas betrayal of Jesus.
1- He was a very proud Judean who had a lot of friends in the Sanhedrin which he was easily manipulated by them something that Jesus warned him about so many times.
2- He was a womanizer, a fornicator and on many occasions a drunken.
3- He had a love for money and power.
4- He never believed in the existence of Satan nor hell.
5- He was very smart what made Jesus assign him to takes care of the donated money and on so many occasions sending him ahead to pave the road for their arrival to preach or to rest and sleep.
6- In the 3rd year of Jesus' preaching, Judas started to frequently visits a magician that lived in a cave, who call upon spirits and the dark forces, Judas' purpose by doing so was to gain power which he started to lose after Christ gave it to His disciples to heal and perform miracles. The frequent visits was an open door for Satan himself to take over Judas, what caused his dramatic transformation into an evil and bad person filled with doubts, jealousy from the other disciples and hatred toward Christ that reached it's peak after Jesus started to show the real purpose of His mission, casting out the traders and merchants from the temple, exposing the Pharisees, the Saducees, etc... for what they really are and for their intentions and plans to kill Him.
Jesus didn't choose Judas to follow Him as a disciple, on the contrary Judas forced himself on Christ who didn't turn him down and accepted him as a disciple even though He knew from day one that he's the traitor. Jesus suffered a lot from and for Judas, trying to save him from himself and from the bad surrounding of friends in the temple and the Sanhedrin, Jesus loved this disciple so much, cried for Judas, begged him to change his path, He even fasted and prayed for 3 days in a cave for the sake of Judas. He begged the Father to save Judas from himself and from his fatal fate here on earth and beyond. But alas, he sold his soul to the evil one and what was written was written.
Wow where did u get source material
@@IronCypher The Bible as revealed to me, translated to the English version as " The Poem of the Man-God " Maria Valtorta.
Google it and it can be downloaded online for free if you don't want to buy the books.
@@comali2212 thank you🙂
@@IronCypher Welcome... It's a treasure given by Christ, hold it dearly as your own. It's the four Canonical Gospels in astonishing details, more explanations, events, descriptions. Have a humble heart, empty all doubts and read it, the Holy Spirit will take care of the rest and you'll understand.
We talked about church hurt last night. I said that church hurt comes from people you care about. Jesus faced everything that we face daily. We experience friends & family hurting us every day. How can we forgive these people? So Judas, was a disciple of Jesus. Close to Jesus and the enemy knows that when people close to us hurt us it hurts worse!
More importantly, if you behave like Judas, you will get what Judas got. The early disciples didn't have time to sit around twiddling their thumbs; they had work to do.
God had the plan to sacrifice his son at the very beginning of time.
7:15 " Guarding our heart"
Also, remember that each of the disciples thought that they may be the one to betray Jesus.
Except Judas did the same thing, knowing he was the one, to try to keep up appearances, but Jesus caught him in his words!
But Jesus didn't arrest him.
I think that since the flood of Noah, God has given up trying to wrestle with man's flesh.
That's not too say that He has completely abandoned us. But now, if we want to make a genuine enquiry of God, we have to go to Him. And if we seek Him with all our hearts, we shall find Him. And He's a Rewarder of all those who believe that He Is, and diligently seek Him out.
Let's not be like Judas. He just was never properly genuine. He was a man with many secrets, dark secrets, sinister secrets. I think he didn't realise that the God who created the eyes of men can see, and the God who created the ears of men can hear, and the God who created the minds of men can know, and the God who created the hands of men can do, and that the God who created the feet of men can be everywhere at once.
I don't know what made him think he could get away with it. Jesus knew exactly where he was going with that money, even if the other disciples didn't. Did he really think that he was going to get away with it?
And yet, how much he characterises so many people today, even me sometimes. But thanks be to the God who justifies the ungodly by His Choice to offer up His Sinless Body and Perfect Humanity up as a free sacrifice for all mankind, so that whosoever wills may call upon Him and be saved.
Hallelujah!
Peter did too
@@zhouwu I still don’t understand why he did that one preacher said that he was hurt by something that Jesus said and that how he opened his heart for the devil to come in. Can you explain?
@@LadyVader33 Peter's sin was denying Jesus when he said that he wouldn't and promised to die with him but the difference is Peter become remorseful and repent while Judas didn't and choose to kill himself like a coward.
What I want to know is why the apostles are being called disciples , seems to me to be somewhat of an insult , since yes they are disciples but Jesus picked out the twelve which made them his apostles , kinda like calling a General simply a soldier .
We needed him
30 pieces of silver, the price of a slave.
Peter denied Thomas doubted Judas killed himself for revelation of HIS betrail Satan had his handiwork on all three what was the other disciples doing hiding?
Since God sees all time at once it would seem that he knew Judas would do it but did not make him to do it.
But God created Judas knowing it would have been better if he were never born. What’s your answer to that?
@@legomeego8581 he has no possible answer except "God works in mysterious ways" lol
@@legomeego8581 the first lady said it
Er, yes He did, or he wouldn't have done it. Or is God not omnipotent?
I have learnt something today
Is it not easier for someone who serves the Lord to betray him than it is for someone who loves the Lord?
Awesome Q&A.
Evil, and it's jading effects are always before everyone, on earth, at all times. Jesus showed an example of not, even, trying to avoid it, but be aware, encouraged, and see God's protection from it.
Judas never called Jesus Lord or Son of God. he always called him rabbi which means teacher. Makes you think if he had doubts if Jesus was the son if God.
It seems he thought that Jesus's first coming was to establish his Earthly Kingdom so he likely just wanted in on first class status Judas was or at least was implied to be greedy also he likely thought Jesus wasn't divine but rather an Earthly desire.
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Peter denied Jesus but Peter repented. Judas betrayed Jesus but Judas did not repent. No genuine repentance. He just said I betrayed an innocent man. He brought back the silver coin and pharisees said who else you gonna blame Judas. Judas conscience made him said he betrayed the innocent man
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No Father and no Mary.... 600
Killed GOD see John 3:16
I hope the panel would read the actual text before discussions
I'm looking for the answer: Did Jesus die for Judas? I'm not justifying the actions of Judas, I desire to rid myself of betrayals, seductions, and wickedness that I committed in my past and am still afflicted with today... even though I call myself a believer. In Mark , Jesus speaking of Judas said it would be better of that man if he had never been born. I have wondered this of myself. I wish I could go back and speak to that foolish young man before he would make a bunch of bad decisions, that were to follow him the rest of his life.
I’m not going to swear anymore. I’m going to dress properly. I’m improving.
Judas could’ve had one of the best testimonies, but he didn’t. Why? Because he hanged himself.
This is the guy who thought he was helping, getting Jesus put somewhere safe, he didn’t know they were going to put him on trial and kill him. The famous 30 pieces of silver? He threw them back at the men who gave them to him.
Think of that testimony. I screwed up and it led to the death of Jesus, but this is what God used me to do afterwards…
Judas’s sin was killing himself before God had the chance to use him to spread the word.
Remember Jonah fled from what god wanted, he got picked up by a whale and dumped back where he was supposed to be.
Lot’s wife turned into a pillar of salt. A holy priest carrying the Arc of the covenant, slipped and touched it was immediately killed. God doesn’t mess around, but he gave us free will. He reveals himself to us over time, Judas cut himself off from that by taking his free will and ending his own life without stopping to pray or think. If anything that is what he did wrong.
His intentions were good, but he was deceived. So don’t condemn him as evil, he wasn’t. Remember it was Thomas who doubted Jesus not Judas, and Thomas got the greatest honour of touching the wounds and seeing/feeling Jesus was resurrected. So if the guy who was always thinking “hmm not sure about this” goes on to receive evidence that wipes his uncertainty away, what could he have done with Judas. Remember the denial of knowing Christ until the cock crowed, he didn’t do that. He didn’t run away when they were arresting Jesus, he went and faced the men who had fooled him.
It’s not always what you think.
We can’t question God, but we should respect the fact he gave us free will. The freedom to choose. How many people do you know who want God on their shoulder saying “don’t do that” when you want to order a take away…
Just stop and think about things.
Jesus never condemned anyone, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” he tells us all the time we are not the ultimate judge, God is.
Now, sit down and think of Enoch. Right at the start of the bible, all we know is what it says “Enoch walked with God all his life, so God did not give him death”. Isn’t that fascinating. We know nothing else about the guy, no testimony, no story, just that God decided he should not experience death or the separation from God that briefly brings. In that moment of Death even Jesus cried out to God. Yet God never put Enoch through that… that’s interesting and something to ponder.
This is too deep😭😭😭
Whoever enter in the fold their is sequences so think before we act because everything we do is accountable we are all going to be judge according to our actions so be aware... Repent and don't sin again
Cuz he wanted to, it was his call👍💯
Because Jesus wants to share the Story How devil posses you if you did not pray You Are Right Choose this day whome you serve "
Just Give 30 min to God "
Pray to Holy Rosary and meditate on Jesus life '!
10:46 "If he [Judas] hadn't done that, would there be a book of Judas?"
Me: Would there be a Bible?
Remember, Judas could have repented of the betrayal (Peter did). But free will enabled him to decide to take his own life instead
What free will ? There is no such thing as free will.. no verses says man has free will . .. this is men teaching only. . God elect and choose people according to his will. He had planned everything' to happen from the beginning of time. God says he did everything .... GOD Created evil and goodness . Darkness and light.. Many are called but only few are choosen according to his will .. you do not choose God but God chose you . God did not choose some, infact many people to be saved.. and God knows why
@@pskima4274 Calvin's rewritten bible (in which he had no clue the book was NOT written in a European dialect)
@@LadyVader33 there are many claims to deceive many beliefs....but God had choosen Bible among all .. so better trust his words rather men teachings and claims
@@pskima4274 I do. It's why I'm able to refute predestination and theology from people who have no clue about the language and context of scripture
@From the Futon Yes of course we do have a choice . You can choose whatever you want. But that doesn't mean God is excluded from it... You have choice so that you have no excuses to blame God . Whatever you choose and decide, God is in control of all m
There fine. There more open to the earthly happenings. And are able to work with and come closer to more people in order to spread the word.
What will you do? Betray.. deny.. doubt..hide .. go fishing ?
Word! Nothing about Saklas?
When I consider the omniscient, and omnipresent, aspects of God, that is to say, knowing all, and, being able to exist in past, present, and future simultaneously, not being constricted by time, or ignorance, God must have foreseen the falling of Lucifer before He created him. I have wondered if there was some correlation between the relationships of God/ Lucifer, and Jesus/Judas? I've yet to find an answer, or even anyone posing the question. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Jesus knew from the beginning who would betray him.
John 13:10-11
Jesus said to him, “The one who has bathed does not need to wash, except for his feet, but is completely clean. And you are clean, but not every one of you.” For he knew who was to betray him; that was why he said, “Not all of you are clean.”
Judas Iscariot was from the Tribe of Judah. He was a Zealot, taught and cultured in Judahism and very close to the priestly class..Jesus(Yeshua) did not chose him to be his disciple but Judas chose to be a follower. There was only 11 disciples but in Herbrew numerology number 12 is complete...so 12 was needed...the 11 disciples received the Holy Spirit..but Judas was not sure and in doubt...He was not sure in the beginning as Jesus disciples , but as he followed Jesus long enough, he became sure JESUS was the Messiah!!..He. had good news and went to tell the Priest and Pharrisees that he have find the MESSIAH and know where he's to be found!!..The Priest and Pharisees tempted Judas with 30 pieces of silver coin to bring them to him!!..at this point, the evil spirit, not the Holy Spirit entered Judas...Judas did not know that the Priest will hand Jesus to the Roman to crucified and killed...His guilt over welled him and then sold his soul to SATAN by hanging himself to a tree!!!.......it is not our will but the" WILL OF GOD"!!!... .....Giorgio Messina....
So with that in mind
That God planned to sacrifice his only son, at the beginning of time.
He knew the man would fail at the garden of Eden?
So if he planned everything from the very beginning of time,
Why make man, to stumble and fall? What's the lesson that we must learn to be right with God? My question is
Am i ever going to prove that i learned that lesson, or will we ( i ) doomed to repeat my lessons until I get smart enough to catch on?
God does everything to display his glory. He told Pharaoh, "for this very reason I raised you up, that I might show my power in destroying you" Romans 9:17. Paul also says, "God has bound all men over to disobedience, so that he might have mercy on them all." Romans 11:32. Paul dwelves deep into God's attributes in Romans and you can see a lot of our common philosophical questions about God answered there.
The lesson we can glean from all this is God is sovereign over all things including us and we should worship him as such. He wants to demonstrate his mercy and grace and unending love towards us through the sacrifice of his son Jesus. He does not require you to do any deeds in order to be right with him. All he commands you to do is put your faith in his Son whom he sacrificed on your behalf on the cross. He is more than eager to display his love by forgiving you of all sins once and for all if you believe. If you dont believe and continue in your sins, he will display his strength in your destruction on judgement day. God is both merciful and just. Just like with Paul and the Pharaoh, it is up to us how our lives will glorify him in the end.
@@sjohn640 I believe!
"Opened himself up" I guess that's were free will comes in. Humans
I can't believe the ones that say "it had to be somebody"... There is absolutely no way you can say that God knows everything from beginning to end but didn't know Judas would be the one that would betray him... Come on y'all.. God set everything in motion, God planned everything from beginning to end, he didn't just throw us out here wondering what we would do.. just like Paul says about pharaoh, he served the purpose he was born for.. So strange to me how anyone can say they're a believer and in the same breath say that God knows everything but in the same breath try to give examples of things God didn't know was going to happen... God knows everything, he planned everything from beginning to end.. he knew every single person that would play every single part because he chose them for those parts.. he's God
He was a vessel of wrath and there but for the grace of God go I. John 6v70
He knew God would have used him
Timeline 4:52 ..When The Christ breathed The Holy Spirit onto the disciples, it was after He was resurrected, at that point Judas was Not with them as he had already killed himself. But The Christ did give Judas equal authority (as the others) to minister and perform miracles before His Sacrifice .
If you read in psalms and you read in acts how can you be called in ministry without being saved and if he was saved surely he lost his salvation so I believe that also we can too.i don't believe a person commits murder on himself and gets forgiven for it beforehand you must ask forgiveness after committing sin not before, I believe that this maybe a hard question also🤔
Did Jesus choose Judas or did Judas offer himself as a follower? i suspect the latter is closer to the truth. As a charismatic preacher Jesus attracted a cult following. But then an overly ambitious Jesus trod on the wrong toes. Judas saw the coming trouble with authority, cut himself off from Jesus and took the money.
To me you all are looking at works and predestination. Everyone in my opinion have an opportunity for that’s how powerful the cross and resurrection is. It’s not about who Jesus chose it’s about how merciful God is even at your worse.
Who did Jesus forgive?
TRUST IN GOD OF ISRAEL AND NOT OUR OWN THINKING, IMMANUEL....
Why we humans demonize Judas is truly baffling. Anyone of us could be like Judas, greedy, loveless, selfish. Judas was a tragic figure who deserved to be saved. With god'unique love, mercy , compassion, we can all be saved if we can try to be honest, good to each other. PREACHERS WHO CONDEMNED JUDAS TO HELL OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT THEMSELVES. HOW MANY BETRAY MATES, FATHERS, MOTHERS, FRIENDS? LET US PRAY FOR JUDAS AND OTHER.
This I have sympathy towards your message, truly I say unto you; my heart weeps for Judas from the impression from what you said and from the portrayal from bible videos. God is love, and He is mercy. Judas return the 30 pieces of silver. He repented in realization and guilt. God saved Judas. Amen
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The Last Supper couldn't have been a Seder. Where was the lamb? The Gospel of John clears it up. ' It was BEFORE the feast.'= The Last Supper, ' When next I drink of this wine I will drink it anew in the Kingdom of God' [ The Marriage Supper of the Lamb] And don't forget Jesus/ Yeshua, WAS the Passover Lamb! So He had to die when all the lambs were being slaughtered on the eve[ 3pm] of the 14th of Nisan, which is when He expired on the cross. The Pharisees also wanted to kill Jesus before the Feast, lest there be a riot! This is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark. The Pagan Gregorian calendar feasts like 'Easter'[ Goddess Astarte] are to be repented of. Yeshua/ Jesus is only fulfilling YHWH's luni/solar Prophetic Feasts calendar. Shalom to you in Christ Yeshua.
I think that it was God will that Judas was chosen to fulfill the scriptures how do you explain one's grief after a betrayal.
@Tommie Anderson - I think the same thing. So if it was gods will then and we could say that god created Judas for this purpose then would Judas’s soul be in hell, as he had no choice but to betray him? In essence that was his programming I suppose you could say. It makes you think that people that are considered evil are by gods will. Therefore why are souls sent to hell, why punish a soul for something they were predefined todo?
@@doubled6256 well this is my personal perspective God respect free will, he could choose not to betray him (i think, like Angel could choose to praise God or not to praise God like Satan did) ,and second he could change, Simon Peter denies Jesus 3 times but he repent and God forgive him, but Judas hang himself instead of repent and ironically died before Jesus did, but i don't know what happened after death, i don't "Judged" him to be in hell, only God can Judge him and i hope God forgive him
@@holyguns54 Yes I hope god forgave him too. Thanks for your reply I appreciate it.
Raniah Sayegh looks like young Freddie Mercury
it raelly helped me out
Because God is love, and He chose Judas despite his final fate caused by the actions of his own will.
God would do this again and again for an eternity, despite Judas ' choice every time through an eternity..why? Because God is love and never changes, constantly the same; The same invitation we all have today. And our fate is in our hands, according to our free will. So the moral of this verbiage today is: "If you hear today the Lord's voice do not harden your hearts" - don't be another Judas...
_Fiat_
NO ONE KNOWS IF JUDAS ASKED FOR FORGIVENESS, he was so greif stricken makes me think he did. Jesus tod him to go do what he must do, it was God's plan for Judas, he was part of God's plan and loved Christ.
1.Jesus is not God.
2.Jesus was worshipped as the God is actually work of the Devil(Juda).
3.Juda will then posing as Jesus(The AntiChrist).
4.The AntiChrist will come in the End Day as Jesus... And Christians mostly will worship him.
When Christians worship Jesus... They actually have already worship the AntiChrist.
They suppose to worship the one and only God ( The Father in Heaven)
So Mathew 7: 21-23 happen because... of the false God Christians worship.
They suppose to worship the one and only God... not Jesus.
@@seisouichiro Poop thing, you must be a Jew that is still full of hate for your self for what your people done to the Lord of us all. 1 wonderful blessing is if you as for forgiveness with your heart and your truly humbled he has forgiveness for you. I know a lot of jews won't except Jesus, but it changes nothing, the only way for you to enter heaven is there the son of God, Jesus himself. God bless you and I pray you find your way to the real truth.
@@peggypriestcoleman7542 Nope... I am not a Jew...
I am a Muslim... We follow the teaching of Jesus...
1. We fast as Jesus fast...
2. We pray by making prostation as Jesus did...
3. We circumcise as Jesus did...
4. We spread salam as Jesus did Shalom...
Because in mathhew 7:21-23
We are NOT among those who use the name of Jesus to do miracles.
We are those who follow what God command...
@@seisouichiro I did consider you may of been muslim. It's odd to me that jews and muslims have such decent toward the other but the two groups are still so similar in the mind set.Both taught so well from birth that there is no trinity, that Jesus wasn't the son of God yet, both muslim and jew want to kill the other, and not jew and muslim relish the idea of chopping Christian's head off, while we Christians just want to live our fellow man. Guess that's just how it is, this earth was warring and killing since cain slew Able. None of us today really know what it was like or how advanced things were at that time, I'm thinking much further advanced than we are today with the fallen angels teaching all they new to the people. I've been in contact with Muslim more than Jews but I'm aware of the mind set of both. I believe in Jesus not no false Jesus or false prophet that will come. I see and understand that God gave us all a way of salvation and it was threw his son Jesus Christ. Its him I'll follow, he gave all for us all matter where we are from. He didn't teach hate, or chopping people heads off because they did think as he did, or they were unfaithful to there husband, there was redemption and salvation thank God his blood still covers us today. I feel very blessed to be born in a country that believes The christian bible, not just the old but the new as well. I'm so grateful I dont live in an eastern country as a woman where if I spoke against the perversion of Mohammed I'd end up in chop chop square in Egypt. In the bible it says you can speak against christ or God but not the hole spirit that resides in us, which I'd never speak against christ or God. But for those that do or have, I'm grateful God is so merciful in his forgiveness. God bless you. Worry not, if they say The Lord is hear or there I won't go. I know when he does arrive my eyes and heart won't be so carelessly fooled.
Peggy Priest Coleman I am a Muslim...
I never kill anybody...
I did kill some mosquito though...
If I want to be ignorant as u...
I can pick a Christians Leaders...
and label all Christians as murderer...
IMO Judas wanted to be the money man of the group and initiated himself to be part of the group as a business venture. Jesus knew from that point Judas would be the betrayer, as Jesus said you can tell a tree by the fruit it bears.
What book did. you get this from? Certainly not the "bible".
@@MrRezillo Mathew 7:18-20 and Luke 6: 43-44. Also John 12: 5-6 What I mean by saying business venture is Judas had knowledge of money in a business sense... like an accountant.
@@dontalkt2meboutheros The first two passage you cite are about the law of karma, or reaping what you sow, but in any case not relevant to discussing Judas' motivation. As to the passage in John, written from hearsay at the barest minimum of 70 years after the event, I wouldn't put much stock in it.
Did "John" know for a fact that Judas was a thief, and therefore not concerned about helping the poor instead of washing Jesus' feet? Or did his portrayal of Judas as an evil thief make for a good story? Not that 'john' was necessarily fabricating the tale; that might have been how it came down to him as a bit of folklore.
But assuming for the sake of argument that Judas was indeed a thief: his conscience got the better of him and he threw the money back before taking his own life. If that's not evidence of remorse, I don't know what is, so his alleged thievery is irrelevant at the end of the day.
Judas Iscariot was predestined to betrayed Christ for an example it is written forgive them Father they know not what they do they were predestined in the first Earth age to carry out these acts in order to fulfill scripture he had to pick someone to carry out the crucifixion of Christ to fulfill scripture predestined.for this reason Jesus said forgive them Father they know not what they do 2. It is written where were you before you entered your mother's womb did not ordained you to be my prophet that = predestine 3. God also said to Job where were you before I laid the foundations of this world what he was saying to Job was don't worry about nothing you going to make it through this ordeal because it was planned in the first Earth age that= predestine so when you see the police shooting down unarmed black men or Negroes in the streets it was predestined to fulfill scripture yes Judas was predestined to betray Christ also he repented when he through the 30 pieces of silver at the Sadducees Judas replied I have innocent blood on my hands these acts were planned in the first Earth age to fulfill scripture if you don't know now you know
Thank you Mr Ricky Johnson, I believed God has saved me.
Wouldn’t Judas’ returning the silver count as repentance???
It didn’t because he committed suicide afterwards. A person can be repeated without having remorse!
what is repentance?
I think there is nothing God don’t have foreknowledge about ,so God knew before hand everything about Juda too but it was not God who caused him to choose the evil path but it was Juda’s choice by exercising the free will every one has as allowed and respected by God .
If Jesus went into paradise and triumphed Satan, took the keys and brought people to heaven then couldn’t Judas have an opportunity to receive like others did. For these people were there before the cross and that includes Judas. Jesus’ sacrifice extends to everyone that repents and received His Atonement.
We are all Judas in this world at many point of times.. you agree or disagree....but the only inspiration by Jesus, very truly said... I am the way..The TRUTH and the Life.....he also declared I have come for the Truth and I will Die for the Truth to Pontius Pilate...................So follow the way of Jesus and be truthful and you will have Life in abundance.......instead of debating on the creator of our LORD JESUS CHRIST.
God's mightiness is wider than than the sea and broader than the earth.
We are not so intellectual to debate or have hard questions related with the WORD OF GOD.
Please ask God to make us possibly live according to his word.
God Bless
Don't say Easter please
Easter is the pagan goddess that God in the old testament despised her name is Ishtar
To fit prophecy! Yahshua is the atoning Lamb of Yah. On the day of atonement 2 lambs were brought one for Yahuah and one for azazel. The lamb for azazel was chased into the wilderness( the Bible ends the explanation here) however if you consult one in knowledge of Judaism, the lamb was chased of a cliff to his death) Judas hung from a cliff to his death!
Which verse does it says that Jesus loved Judas?
Love your neighbor as yourself perhaps???
Jesus loves everyone bro
To @bis: This question is not important. It all happened 2 000 years ago. What is written about Judas in Acts differs from the Gospel. It is only a side-issue, and makes no difference to the central events. People who spend time on questions like this would be better employed in doing God's work and qualifying for Heaven as Jesus told them, instead of sitting at home looking for a rear entrance.
People. Have any of you guys even attempt to ask the holy spirit for these revelations? Isnt that is why he was sent to us? If the holy spirit is not our guidance but the intellectual knowledge of man, expect alot of diversions, disagreements, and controversy!
Then we don't need apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors or teachers.
Judas betray Jesus.
Ok, that's terrible.
But what's more important, he didn't repent.
Jesus want him to repent like peter after his betrayal.
But judas didn't, he chose to end his life.
Judas was supposed to be another example that anyone could be forgiven even if you did terrible things.
But Judas failed to be that example.
Jesus said
Father please forgive them, because they didn't know what they did.
And in addition what about the other prophets that came and went that did Miracles Enoch and Noah and Moses and all the other ones
If Jesus, one and only true purpose of being born was to be the sacrificial lamb of all the Sinners so they could be forgiven then why on the cross would he ask God father why have you forsaken me. It relates to the question of why Judas was an apostle of Christ I believe Judas was the only Apostle of Christ who actually had an understanding of what lessons he had taught them during the Last Supper
if you believe God wants me to have everything my heart desires don't waste your time commenting to these questions to be a true Christian is to suffer for Christ as Christ suffered for you but that was not his only purpose
Comdem Judas and condem yourself. We are all sinners, not a single person deserves Heaven. Repent and believe as Heaven is close at hand.
Salvation wasn’t available yet when Judas and those died before the cross.
Proper interpretation. You use scripture to interpret scripture. It would have been better if Judas was never born if he never trusted christ. The bible says worship him in spirit and truth. Judas maybe baby believer was like the baby Christians who weren't strong enough to eat food sacrificed to idols. So he hung himself. Maybe he trusted christ before that final minute. Jesus didnt want to feed the hungry he just wanted to sleep and were all questioned the sovereignty of God. Why bad things happen to good people. So seeing jesus who didnt want to feed the poor now pouring expensive oil on his feet. Who wouldn't question who he was. And also like a benny hinn sevice not healing the blind man right away. But bottom line God was pleased with Jesus wether you like him or not. Jesus said he would tell them things but they couldnt bare them now. When he comes. Refering to Paul. The faith alone doctrine. The bible gives the struggle from start to finish. Of faith alone. From Adam and Eve. Clothing themselves with fig leaves wich could be quit itchy. To God clothing them with the animal. Wich represented Christ the lamb. To hosea the profitvwho couldn't make his mind up. Clothed in his own righteousness to God's righteousness. From Moses who struck the rock twice wich represented faith in christ the one lifted up more than once. He resacrificed christ in his heart for his sins. Just a example of not living in peace on earth. To the idiot who misunderstood God and wanted to sacrifice his son but God made away of escape. God can still make that wich is unclean clean and a good story. You have the prophet Isaiah who am said even the anguish of christ pleased God. Christ in his hour is the coin for sin debt. All sins past present future with no gaps. Faith is the key to receive this gift. Your faith doesnt save you but he saves you because you place your faith in christ for your sins. If I miss a quote still point made
Amen hallelujah hosanna I am deserving of death but God saved me. Judas the same
It was not in the best interest of santan, to have him killed. He was blindsided by God, God's plan, to save us from sin.
So free will, or, God's plan?
Compare Peter's reaction to Judas'...Both betrayed Jesus, Peter's response was repentance, Judas' wasn't...God would've absolutely forgiven him had he repented.
Literally, both no need for Calvinism or Arminianism God's will was not for Judas's damnation he indeed had a choice not to mention Jesus gave Judas 3 chances to fess up.
God's plan wasn't to have his son die for us , he seen it , he knew Satan would kill him , God seen Satan plans and allow Satan to do it to show Satan that he ain't God
The only Sin to be saved from was Satan because Satan was the only sin on Earth
Luis P Uh Satan isn’t sin lol.
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Special pleading to ignorance
He was just a poor thief! Is it too much to expect someone like him to change when he had the chance to possess true eternal life?and walk humbly with his God.😇
women Pastors on the panel? My Bible says suffer NOT a wonan to teach!
Brother Dave why not. I used to attend a girls Bible class back in the 60s. There was a woman teacher and there were plenty of women teachers at school.
@Harry Daniels Corinthians chapter 11 verse 5 would differ with you
I agree but is she a pastor ? I don't know ? ..
She is just sharing her opinions
God ordained predestined eternal damnation. And God doesn't need to do anything, or need to have a Judas. He chose to have him. People don't choose to repent FYI, that's on God. I don't think Jesus did love him at all. He just used him for a short time.
It is true that Jesus loves Judas ... and guess what the gospel of Judas implies the special love that Jesus had for Judas when Jesus told Judas :" Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom... " more importantly Judas Iscariot had a greater love for Jesus.. This was the reason why he had taken his life for him . Jesus says " Greater hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." john 15-13 King James version
None of these presenters acknowledged the fact that Jesus said he had preserved all the apostles save one (the son of perdition) so that the scriptures might be fulfilled. Judas’s fate was sealed the moment he was born because Jesus had proclaimed that it would have been better had he never been born. If that is truly the case, then he never had the opportunity to repent, because if he had done so, he obviously would have gone to heaven.
@From the Futon yes in fact it is ant Old Testament prophecy that Jesus would be betrayed. He chose Judas as a disciple knowing he was a devil.
@From the Futon So you are saying it had to be somebody but it just happened to be Judas? What part of Jesus picking Judas knowing he was a devil and knowing he would be betrayed by him do you not understand? Jesus also said that he saved all but one (apostle) so that prophecy could be fulfilled! It’s all there in the bible, just read it for yourself. Read Romans 9 if you want to know about God’s will for unrepentant sinners. Some vessels he made for glory but others as vessels of his wrath like Judas. He was known as the son of perdition or the one ‘doomed’ to destruction. Being doomed with no hope is a form of predestination. It’s especially poignant when Jesus emphasized that it would have been better for him to never been born than to carry out his ultimate destiny in hell by inevitably betraying Christ. Jesus could have not chosen Judas but he did so, so that ‘prophecy could be fulfilled’. Even if it was some random guy, that doesn’t change the fact that it had to be someone and that someone had to be ‘doomed to destruction’.
Romans 9:18 So then He has mercy on whomever He wills (chooses) and He hardens (makes stubborn and unyielding the heart of) whomever He wills.
Romans 9:19 You will say to me, Why then does He still find fault and blame us [for sinning]? For who can resist and withstand His will?
Romans 9:20 But who are you, a mere man, to criticize and contradict and answer back to God? Will what is formed say to him that formed it, Why have you made me thus? [Isa. 29:16; 45:9.]
Romans 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same mass (lump) one vessel for beauty and distinction and honorable use, and another for menial or ignoble and dishonorable use? Romans 9:22 What if God, although fully intending to show [the awfulness of] His wrath and to make known His power and authority, has tolerated with much patience the vessels (objects) of [His] anger which are ripe for destruction? [Prov. 16:4.]
@From the Futon I’m not blaming anyone. This is what happened to Judas. I don’t feel like life has to be fair. Romans 9 makes that abundantly clear. I am also not a Calvinist.
@From the Futon also the bible says God knew us before we were formed in the womb. What do you have to say to that knowing Judas was doomed to destruction? He created a vessel for his wrath just as Romans 9 is describing. He also knew Judas was a devil and what had to be done to fulfill prophecy
@From the Futon Let me put it to you this way. What prevented Jesus from casting out Satan from Judas? Should he have not set him free like all the others? Just stop and think about that for a moment.
Why would God choose people to do a certain role like they some kind of satanic sacrifice....like all if us Judy's was a good guy at one stage but sin had taken him away from the truth.
Jesus' whole plan was to get betrayed so he could be crucified so he could die for our sins. What difference does it make if it was Judas or some other poor schmuck? Jesus needed a betrayer. Judas was it.
Judas was a necessary evil to fulfill the resurrection of Jesus!!
So God created a human being whose main purpose in life was to betray Jesus in order to fulfill the gospel. And then punish that human for eternity for fulfilling God's will?
Yeah that makes no sense
Iscariot, the treasurer like Lucifer in heaven. So Judas Iscariot not be avoided but chosen by Jesus.
Shes talking as if Jesus was not God himself. He knew he had to save us so he gave his own life for us. Simple answer.
Judas didn't believe in god that rest of the apostolies did.
Just saying. Jesus knew he would be betrayed. So why not mark someone who doses not believe in someone who's skeptic in rest of apostolies.
Take the time and just remove Judas from tbe scripture. He would not be arrested not crucified and not rise from the dead.
The scriptures say Satan entered into Judas
I suggest you people research the truth not the lie.
Jesus came for the lose house of Israel. The perfect sacrifice was to present the evils committed by man. Jacob sons did equally the same to Joseph
In gospel of john 6:70, jesus says, and one of you is a devil. Someone had to fulfill prophecy of psalm chapter 41, my familiar friend in whom I trusted, which did eat my bread, hath Lifted his heel against me. Judas is kenite to start with, God knows all of his children, psalm 918, Our Secret sins in light of thy countenance. God knows our motives, our desires, their are no secrets with God. I dont believe he was forced, it's no accident he was their, the motive and desires played major factor. . Isaiah chapter 45, Cyrus of Persia was appointed by God, it was no accident, take down nations. What's my point . At fixed time God put Cyrus as Persian king to fulfill his Will, Judas was born at fixed time and played part in prophecy.
As good used desciples for taking gospel to world n testify Jesus so god used Judas to sacrifice lamb
Study this. Judas was a Canaanite ! He may have had the seed of Satan in him ! What does that mean.... think about it. ... Jesus did call him a devil. John 6:70-71 KJV
goodness gracious please learn scripture . No where does it say judas was a canaanite and jesus also called peter satan when he said he wouldnt die on a cross .
@@quad7375 When did Jesus say Peter was Satan??
It surprises me that so far no one has apparently bothered to simply ask the most basic of questions: Why would the Sanhedrin pay Judas such a princely sum... to point out someone they already KNEW well? Yes... you heard me right. In all THREE Synoptic Gospels, Jesus, Himself, points out to the arrest party that they had all SEEN Him teaching daily in the Temple... and had been WITH HIM as He taught (?!):
"Jesus said to them, 'Have you come with swords and clubs to arrest me like you would an outlaw? DAY AFTER DAY I WAS WITH YOU, teaching in the temple courts, yet you did not arrest me.'"
(Mark 14:48-49, Matt 26:55, Luke 22:53)
Thus... They KNEW Him, already! Jesus RECOGNIZED them all... and knew THEY recognized Him. So....... what did it matter whether Judas was there or not to "kiss" Him and point Him out? And why would they pay Judas anything to do so? The simple Truth here is this: There was no "Judas Kiss"... there was no Judas "betrayal"... and there probably was no Judas, period. Instead... the Judas story was later concocted to HIDE the truth regarding those who really DID betray Jesus by testifying against Him at His trial before the Sanhedrin... to save their own skins.
Wanna take a guess who those real betrayers were? Here's a hint: Peter wasn't seated with the guards outside Jesus's trial, unable to leave as people kept recognizing him, 'cuz they were all such great buddies.
Think about it... take all the time you need. ;)
@From the Futon -- Oh? Where in Gnosticism do you find such views?
@From the Futon ... Ah, I see where you're coming from now. But no... I'm not claiming any "secret knowledge" has been "revealed" to me... quite the opposite, in fact. I'm pointing out what is hidden in plain sight right there in the Gospels that nobody realizes even after 2,000 years. Imagine a huge "Where's Waldo" puzzle that's gone unsolved for 2,000 years because no one takes off their Belief-tinted glasses long enough to critically examine what's right there before them... and has been all this time! That's right! There's Waldo waving at us... and to see him, all ya gotta do is look! Yet everyone prefers to not look, not reason, not apply logic but, instead, attack the person pointing him out. Classic belief-driven dogmatic mindset.
Same with Galileo who, looking through his telescope, clearly saw the moons of Jupiter orbiting that planet, clearly proving that the Earth is NOT the center of the Universe, as the Religious quacks of his day insisted was the case. And yet, despite his reasoning, despite his simply asking them to LOOK and see the evidence for themselves... all they did was likewise refuse to consider the evidences and, instead, condemned him as a heretic.
I abhor Belief and all its Religions, "paths" and "-isms." Instead, I'm simply following the evidences -- sans preconceived prepackaged beliefs -- and extrapolating therefrom the glaringly obvious explanations using Reason and Logic... and presenting them for others to critically consider. That's it.
As for my name... if anything, it's a rather ironic and deliberate choice given I abhor Belief and Religion... and chose that moniker in part to further that point through the seeming polar-opposite dichotomy inherent in the two names. As my moniker reflects: I am the Ultimate "Heretic" forever flying in the face of Belief and its closed-minded blindness through the careful employment of Reason made wholly dependent on the facts and evidences. I'm not claiming to always be right, for I welcome well-evidenced, well-reasoned rebuttals. But at least I'm trying. :)
@From the Futon ... "Strategy"? "Biting the lure"? Thanks for proving everything I just wrote..
@From the Futon Ah, yes... the last resort of the intellectually bankrupt: Ad Hominem attack. You can't think, you can't reason and you can't counter the scriptural and historical evidences provided... so, you windmill wild accusations and false demonizations at me hoping thereby to achieve some sort of "knockout" without having to engage in an actual intellectual discussion you know you don't have the brain power to attempt.
Yeah... for one thinking he avoided "biting the lure," you bit down on my troll lure hard! And with your true troll colors now clearly in evidence for all to see, I'm done with you. Thanks for "playing." Buh-bye, now. :D
why would Satan help God fulfill his plan? it doesn't make sense
I believe Judas was special and chosen by God
I believe Satan didn't know the impact of Jesus's death. Satan didn't think Jesus will risen and defeat him.
Jesus did not choose Judas in the first place !!! at least not directly
It is said Jesus choose 12 men to be his apostle and Judas is one of them it is never explain how Judas was chosen at least I didn't know that yet was he called or one of the apostle who was his friend told him about him but idk.
Jesús knew who was going to betrayed because Judas was his brothers just like jhon they were identical brothers but Judas was the Devil there were three brothers one hating the other two let me tell you something Jesus is the holly spirit Judas was the Devil and jhon was God think for a little bit and you’ll know I’m the truth all of this comes to me in dreams