I paid people on Fiverr to make my PC parts list
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2020
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Fiverr is an online marketplace for freelance services. I hired five different "PC experts" to make me a custom parts list given a specific set of guidelines and budget. Let's see how they did...
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I paid people on FIVERR to make my PC parts list
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Bruh, I been doing this for my friends for years, didn't realize I could get paid for it
You were like: "You guys are getting paid, for this?"
@@bojke91 LMAO yep
SAMEE!!!
I plan to do this for my friends in the near future. I will definitely charge them
FIVERR TIME
2nd build makes more sense to me. Easier to add storage later and reap the benefits of the 5700XT today.
Yep, storage is always super easy to upgrade
@@destryjones7740 and they are also getting very cheaper day by day. So it's worth waiting just a little bit.
@@destryjones7740 Kylie mentioned that he wants to stream. Most streamers play a single game everyday, so 500GB is enough for streaming. But he could have added $30 and chosen the 1TB SSD like the first parts list. But Kylie pressed on that he can't go over the budget.
No kidding, the 2nd list addresses the two primary problems he had with the 1st list, and by cutting the most easily up-gradable part down the road. Adding a second drive in 6-months when you've installed too many games is cheap and easy and doesn't throw away or waste any investment you already have in the build. Missed the mark here Kyle. 2nd list best list.
Definitely deserved the win no question. 3600 MHz and an XT. Loses to an inferior system with 500 Gb extra storage? Please..
First guy: chooses storage over XT
Kyle: A Miiiinuuuussss. You need to squeeze in the better GPU
Second guy: chooses XT over storage.
Kyle: *Reeeeeeeee* Stoooorage!! You cut cornerssss!!
God damn it! They had nearly identical lists you can’t not cut something back and then get better performance!
Yeah I was just about to comment this. I think they should have skimped on the case, gone down to a matrexx55
Honestly I think the second one was better. You can always add another drive down the road.
@@C_Sephiroth he also said that he would be able to change it so idk who to blame
@@bonxd id blame Kyle he is picky about everything
@@yeboidustin8725 tru, but that’s what’s funny
The second one is definitely better, you get a faster PC, with the option to upgrade storage later down the line...
also you probably have some hard drive or ssd from your previous system, if you just want it to store photos ore similar, that's gonna be enough until you save up enough money for a new, better storage card
Next up on Pauls Hardware:"How I trolled Bitwit on Fiverr with a bad Hardware list and he paid for it!"
Hahaha... Wish it were true!
@@pratyushjayachandran He paid for the list. Don't know if any are trolls. Wouldn't surprise me if a couple were and will upload their experience to YT. LOL
😂🤣😂🤣
Isn't that a scam and a crime that can put you on prison?
Ik it's a joke, so if you were gonna woooosh me stfu
@@Frisher1 r/.........
"A solid B minus... plus"
Sounds like a B with extra steps
EA: Pay 14.99$ to unlock the plus
Big up Latvia
Enough plusses and he'll be competing with Intel.
@@sudoertor2009 haha, nice one!
He has glasses...but yeah...
B - + : *exists*
Me: *That seems like a compicated way of saying B.*
That just seems like b with extra steps
@@anand.kesavan well yeah just like C+=B--
3:20 - you stated that this build is for a computer n00b... would a n00b know how to go into the motherboard's BIOS to access the higher speed RAM timings?
@@mituaktar8893 wtf
+ - = -
I love Kyle, his uploads are some of my favorite tech content on RUclips,
but there were so many conflicting thoughts between this smattering of builds that I walked away with no idea what I was even supposed to take away from this.
As I went back and rewatched a second time, my own conclusion was that these guys actually all did a good job but that they all cut corners in different ways,
and that Kyle just pointed out the various ways they did (albeit as a flaw in every scenario) and that's it's just up to an experienced builder to decide for each use-case.
So true! My thoughts exactly. I feel like the second one was the best in terms of price to performance. Also, hard drives just cost $50-$70 and he was making it seem like such a big deal. I love his videos, but this one was kind of immature.
You definitely don't need a mobo that's more expensive than your CPU in a mid-range build in any situation, nor do you need a $160 case in a mid-range build.
@@eliwixson8863 Unless you plan on OC-ing down the line in a mobo shortage. In that case, you really don't have a choice.
@@jaronmarles941 b450 can do oc fine
@@joeass2399 VRM temps
List 1: "Could have been better if they cut somewhere to squeeze in a 3600 kit and 5700 xt"
List 2: Makes cuts to squeeze in a 3600 kit and 5700 xt. Gets knocked for making that cut.
LOL
Right, I was laughing my butt off. "A better PSU so you can upgrade your graphics card later" and then giving the dude a lower score because he picked stronger parts and made an easy upgrade path of throwing in a HDD later.
Wrong cuts were made. Games are approaching 200GB each now in the AAA space. 100GB initial then massive updates.
@@PiousSlayer you are dreaming xd most of them are replacing the files i haven't seen a game except ark and new cod that exceeds 100 gb
@@PiousSlayer What?
Apex - 36GB
R6 - 65GB
PUBG - 32GB
GTA V - 70GB
Battlefront II - 70GB
Battlefield V - 50GB
DRG - 3GB
Vermintide 2 - 35GB
CSGO - 15GB
Gmod - 13GB
The Witcher 3 - 40GB
PF: Kingmaker - 30GB
So, none over a hundred, a significant amount below 50GB.
george Maraslis my fortnite file size is 170gbs, gta v 120, forza horizon 4 100 and something, ark 200, most games are going over the 100gbs mark these days
In defense of the second build, when it comes to maximum gaming performance, it's arguably the better build., Not everyone has a huge game library, but just play the same few games all the time. It all depends on what criteria was given.
Nakna_ankaN true... I have like 100+ games but play and uninstall only kept gta 5 , fotnite and apex .... Else just come and go
Plus you can keep adding drives. Whereas buying a one step worse gpu, you're stuck with that gpu, you can add extra power to it. Storage is the one thing you can go minimum on at first.
@@ge2719 installing a new GPU isn't any harder than a new hard drive
@@EMETRL It's a lot more expensive though unless you can sell the old card to try and get your money back.
It's a bigger loss than buying a new HDD, and besides, you can still run your old SSD/HDD with the new one. Whereas you would be forced to sell your GPU and be at a loss or you will have a slightly slower GPU sitting around. The 2nd build was better, I'm living off a 120gb SSD and manage. Just have Windows, Steam, Origin, etc installed on there but allocate the games a different drive. FPS over loading times.
I would say the next time you do this, you hire 5 people with a budget and then you put together the list as well. That way you have “an answer sheet”/A+ vs what was submitted. Just an idea.
I have a feeling that Stefan Etienne setup that last build.
Stefan holding up the 250gb NVME: "We got oone..."
Flexing about a hexacore CPU: yeah, we've got one.
Was said by high-end desktop users in 2010.
He said that about the core i7 hexacore CPU, not the SSD
@@eddyrodriguez3865 r/youmissedthejoke
@@JulioTheBusDriver what joke, he said “we got one” to the CPU, not the SSD
Bitwit: “I’ll give him a...B Minus...Plus....B minus plus”
if only there was a grade that split the difference
B: “AM I A JOKE TO YOU!?”
A: “AM I A JOKE TO YOU!?”
S: A IS A JOKE TO ME
😭
that’s some comedy homicide right there
B minus plus is between B- and B, actually, it's basically a slightly better B-, it's not the same as B.
"He should have spent more money on 3600mhz RAM"
60 seconds later
"If he would have cut a few more corners, he could have gotten a 5700 XT"
What do you want, Kyle!?!? 😂
He's conflicting himself all over this video! :D
The first one was the best one and they are trying to keep it right at 1k lol
Also, if you look at comparisons on RUclips, the fps difference between 3200 and 3600 RAM is usually less than 5 fps
@@erikibarra14 for 10 bucks more that is worth it.
@@DerToasti I would disagree. You won't even notice that small of a difference. I'd rather put my $10 towards something else
"if he takes out from other areas and changes these two things he could have got an A+"
*changes those two things exactly how he wanted and takes from storage* YOU GO TO ASIAN HELL B-
you just can't win. LOL
But muh Call of Duty, it's the only game in the world
Yeah... That part annoyed me.
3:20 - you stated that this build is for a computer n00b... would a n00b know how to go into the motherboard's BIOS to access the higher speed RAM timings?
I’m pretty sure he ment buying higher speed ram
@@guyzzersRight... but it's not possible to access those speeds with oc'ing
Lucerion 3600?
@@guyzzers correction I meant without enabling the XMP profile, ddr4 Ram won't utilize over 2444mhz unless done so most beginners won't know how to do so
I mean it isn’t that hard to do so. Some ram kits have the XMP profile for the higher ram speeds set already
Kyle: "He should have cut corners for the 3600mhz memory and the 5700XT"
Second fiverr: does exactly that
Kyle: "I cannot recommend this list"
Kyle im starting to doubt your ability to choose parts without any revisions...
Algis-kun ikr
I believe that list was more on the "lack of storage" that came from cutting corners wrong, I believe if he did better with the storage and cut some corners somewhere else he could have been first
He's not a good part picker for sure
He also said to choose the 1600af over the 2600 but I dont think the af is on part picker
@@lukasmackenzie7036 Partpicker, amazon, etc list the 1600AF as 1600
Kyle: "i hope that the AD revenue from this video makes up for it..."
Me watching it at 1AM with an adblocker active: *guilty confusing feelings*
im gonna guess hes gonna make way more than enough
It Kyle
@@HayderAbdulridha i didnt notice the L had switch with the K 😅. Thanx
Well...if he let me send BAT i wouldn't have to feel bad >.
@@diegon2020 singular RUclips videos don't make that much money
Bitwit: hopefully the ad revenue pays for the $70 I spent
Also bitwit: makes almost $2000 from it
I mean it was just a joke
@@online_antics4830 so was that u numbskull
No he will make more than 2k
@@tfsmcpe9402 from one video? Probably not, your average you tuber doesn’t make as much as you may think
@@FearedIce-9813 444444444444444
I love how he is like oh these are rated badly yet he is asking for more when his budget is only 1000 and you basically demanded for it to be under 1000$
Rather buy a better system with less/worse storage to start with, as it is easy (and relatively cheap) to expand later.
Chris Busquine What the heck do you play ??
@@sebastiankmec472 probably just GTA V and CSGO or something
defo garry's mod
My steam folder has been 1TB+ for years, And playing steam games is not the only thing I do.
@@HappyBeezerStudios building a PC always comes down to user needs.
5700xt or nvme pick one
Kyle: no
also Kyle: rgb is cool
Kyle again: could have saved 20 dollars on non rgb ram
I would have made List 1, or 2 and gone with that cheap rgb phanteks case for the light show. Then again I dont much care about the light show....
Says the guy with the glowing Ram, and CPU cooler...
The basic premise was pretty much how I would set up. RGB is nice, but only a fancy extra, doesn't need to look funky, but colors shouldn't clash. A good compromise of performance and price.
Mikey Alaimo can xxxxxl VI hi XX xx 💁♂️😃🐥
I was able to nab a Ryzen 5 2600X bundled with a B450 AORUS Pro WiFi for $230 a few weeks ago, so I jumped on that deal pretty quickly. I do regret it a tiny bit as the B450 AORUS board does not play nice with 3600 kits. It's stable at 3200, but going any higher than that is inadvisable.
Came hear to say this the 450 boards just don't like high ram. I've made my mistake hope others don't make the same mistake.
Dont worry fellas. 3200 is good enough. At one point it was the "sweet spot" for zen+ chips. Wasnt that long ago.
"A 512Gb SSD isn't enough for a PC"
Cries in 500Gb 5200 rpm hard drive
Damn buddy! Save up some money! You can easily by 500gb SSD for around $60 and then buy 2tb HDD for $60
Cries in 240 gb ssd for 60$
I cried at 5200rpm.
Im so sick of people always bitching of their outdated systems...
Sace up for months and upgrade. Im poor and broke most the time like majority of people. Still have a monster pc. Why? Ducking saved for ages.... Can be done if u aint a crying lil bitch....
@@nullerror4049 im crying, as a joke, that i overpayed for my ssd. I did this because i just fried my 3700x with a bad ssd for 20$, so i went for a more expensive one to be safe. Chill out.
No way. Id rather have better specs and lesser storage. Getting another HDD in the future is easy. Upgrading ram and gpu, not so cost effective.
Well...
When I upgraded my PC recently, I waited until I could get a big fuckin' chonker of an NVMe SSD (2 TB), because I knew migrating data from one drive to the other would be a pain in the ass. Sure enough, it was. I actually, funny enough, only have one M.2 slot in my current mobo, so if I want to swap up to a faster/larger NVMe, I'm basically kinda fucked (I would need to buy a SATA SSD of 2TB size first to juggle the data around, kind of an obnoxious thing to have to do).
I'd honestly rather buy the fucking SSD once and not have to worry about juggling data in the most painful ways possible.
@@michealhoffstater9810 If/when you need/want to upgrade that NVMe drive you could use a M.2 to PCIe NVMe card to copy the old to the new. Looking at Newegg right now they are available for as low as $6. If you want a external solution using a USB to M.2 NVMe compatible converter it will cost a bit more, the cheapest at the egg currently selling for $30. This is for a bare board controller without any enclosure, but add a few dollar and you can get one that will double as a fast USB drive with your old NVMe drive installed in it.
The price difference comes from NVMe really being PCIe so the first card isn't anything but a bare PCB with a PCIe edge connector and a M.2 connector. This card can't handle a M.2 SATA drive as that would require a SATA controller. The USB solution is the other way around as a M.2 SATA to USB solution is cheap while M.2 NVMe to USB require a more expensive controller.
Yeah but you're an experienced PC builder. Normal folk, they wanna buy a system and never have to touch it again when it's done. Even a storage upgrade can be scary if you got someone to build the system for you. The first system is ready to rock for 5 years or more the second you've finished it. And if you really want extra performance out of it and you're no noob, you can overclock the 5700 for insane performance gains, We're talking a breezy +300 on the core rock stable, even on entry level models, XT performance or better.
@@GeorgePerakis The normal folk you are referring to exist, but they are not the people that will fill a 500GB with games. Don't forget most normal folk tend to use an external HDD for their shows and downloads when low on space.
People buy additional storage for the cellphones.
Even console peasants go and buy HDD for their consoles.
Nearly everyone who owns a PC has a friend or colleague that won't mind spending 2 minutes adding an additional drive for them at no cost.
upgrading storage is not scary or difficult today.
This was for a gaming & streaming system, not office use else I would have agreed with you.
Being able to upgrade the system is a part of having a Gaming PC else you can just go buy a console instead.
George Perakis the no noob is irrelevant because if you’re no noob then you’re probably not going to be spending money for somebody to build your PC. Also, upgrading your memory if your no noob is simple and really cheap. Whenever i build a PC for friends I may skip out on memory or at the very least get them a 1-2tb HDD and they can get a SSD later. SSDs are not really a must and just add extra $$ to your build when you can get better peice of hardware for that money.
As stated most people won't be using 1TB of memory it took years before I had to get a new HDD. The average gamer won't use that much memory immediately even the final fantasy game is not as much memory.
4:24 you say if he cut corners in other places he could have got an xt. previously you also said he could have got the 3600 if he pushed. MAKE YO MIND UP
Also many people already have old storages laying around. Simply slide that in or can buy more storage later when he really need it. Most people play like 2-3 games at a time.
Gpu is more important
Agreed. Stupid...
Can u plz help me with my build
He had to cut somewhere the costs for better GPU and RAM - smaller storage was the best choice becouse it is a lightest part of an PC what you could upgrade later.
System 2 should be at first place.
Bitwit: I would give them a A+ if they could force the seller (with a gun if need) to lower there prices so he could get better part within the budget.
Inland is micro center the store’s brand, so good quality.
I don’t see why you’re getting mad for them picking DDR4-3200 when that’s literally what the processor calls for
Even more so when the performance difference is going to be non existent if he's only playing at 60fps.
Processors don't even use the full 3200 unless you overclock it
@@adityarao5271 no ocing ram is timings. So from cl18 to cl 15 or 14 if u know how to do it. Xmp is not overclock lol.
@@nullerror4049 XMP only allows the pre-set profile to be put into use, which means if you don't activate XMP the "3600MHz" for example is just 2133MHz, i had 4266MHz and my X570 Xtreme couldn't handle that speed with 3950X so the 4266MHz kit was a waste of money because it only ran 2133MHz.
And before you say that i should have done it manually, well, i did try couple of times, but even 3200 / 3600 / 3766 did not work with that high end kit.
Though, the person i sold that kit to did say that one of the sticks stopped working completely so, maybe it was just monday product on the RAM's side.
(Trident Z Royal 4266MHz CL19 Silver)
Edit : Oh, and i did try all possible latency setups, CL14, CL15, CL16, CL18, CL19.
@@DrEtzor yeah ive noticed alot of stability issues with kits over 3200mhz. Even on top end motherboards. Thats why i opted out straight for 3200mhz even tho ryzen "prefers" 3600. Most mobos even say on offical sites max of xxxx. So i made sure my x470 gaming x had 3200 support. My ram runs fine on 3200 and i had a buddy bump it to cl15 from 16. Since manual ocing for ram is where i freeze XD
But yeah its weird. Some cases run over 3600mhz ez some cabt even be steady on 3000. And if it died rly might have been faulty from the start.
R7 2700x
Trident z 2x8 3200
Aorus x470 gaming x.
Anyone: *breathes*
Kyle:"RyZeN fIvE sIxTeEn HuNdReD aF"
LMAO FR
Bro people are fucking Obsessed with that cpu
@@kingnugward1623 So much so, that its no longer an 85$, more like 100$ where I live.
Péter Molnár Fr, the 2600 is a good 30€ cheaper than the 1600AF where I’m at rn lmao
Bru 😆
The second build is way better than the first one. It's definetly possible to live with 500Gb storage, most random stuff on a pc can be kept in cloud storage for free.
local storage can be used just for games and windows, you can keep quite a few games installed. And whenever space is getting thight, just uninstall some games if you have a decent internet, you can just download them again.
Plus, it's way cheaper to buy a 2tb HD than it is upgrading both your gpu and memory (sure you can sell the used ones, but you'd still have to spend more than the price of a HD).
Well that puts my mind at ease :) Ive never built a PC and after all my research to build my first , that first list is exactly the same parts list I came up with other than I used the 3600 ripjaws from the second list right away, a 500gb m.2 nvme and a was torn between the rx 5700 xt GPU and the 2060 super OC .... great video thanks
8:28 - "A solid B minus plus " ... So just a B? 😂😂😂
what I thought too!
addition to the first build: you're a pc-noob in this scenario who probably wouldn't even enable xmp. So the 3200mhz was the exactly right choice (it's also the highest officially supported speed for the ryzen 3600)
Well yes but actually no
You're right
But with twee king the Infinite fabric to support 3600mhz
Makes it Run better for gaming
True, Ryzen 5 3600 sweet spot memory frequency is indeed 3200mhz. You don't get any significant performance jump from 3200 to 3666 like you get from 2400 to 3200 (or even 2666). I think Kyle is wrong to cut a point from the fiverr guy, that guy knows this and Kyle don't.
@@snakeinabox7220 you're proving his point. A pc beginner wouldn't know how to tweak that.
Budiman JoJo I’m also confused why he cut the guy for having a 2600x, as the 2600x was on sale for $99 when the part list was put together...
Good point about xmp. Didn't think of that tbh. Would be something the user woukd have to learn after the fact. Ryzen 3000 has a fair chance of running DDR4 3600 with a decent board like the one in the list, regardless of "official" support. It would just be considered out of spec and overclocking at that point.
I watch a lot of this channel and I think this is the first time I commented. But this is crazy. One I did not even know you could hire someone on fiver to build you a list of PC parts. This was very good to watch to see what build recipes they put together though and what was actually good and made sense. Very good watch
Great video man. You're helping a lot of people choosing a wise pc build
Kyle you cry way too much about memory speed. I can fool you by switching your 3600 MHZ RAM to a 3200 MHZ kit and you will never be able to tell if it ever happened.
Indeed. 3200 CL16 to 3600 CL18 makes almost no difference, especially if you don't adjust the IF clock (which inexperienced users won't do).
That is just what i was thinking =)
Exactly my thought. For 12nm Ryzen in particular, 3200 CL16 is the sweet spot
Yep I have 3200 CL16 in my Zen 2 rig and it is FINE.
James Russo I bought 3200 memory and it runs at 2400. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and my performance is fantastic even with the slow ram
At the end i wish you had added your own list to show what you would have done, imo this video missed the point you should have been making
Was wishing the same thing
i know right. You can really learn some few things from this vid but he handled it poorly sometimes
@@tomybogadjian1487 what could you learn there? I mean he said the whole time contradictionary things, like he wanted a 5700xt and faster ram, but a cut on other things was also not allowed
He already said everything for the build he would, during the review. Re-watch
@@sushan118 Not, thats not in the budget. He said what He wants in the build, but there was a maximum budget. Did you even watch the video?
To be fair with the second list, adding a second hard drive down the road is a lot easier than changing out parts. You invest in a better PC and when storage becomes an issue you add in another... it's what I tend to do on my own rigs (especially when the purse is tight).
I like these videos. Plus, I am sure they are easier for you to make. I like the part list reviews and wish you made more.
It would be interesting to see what parts they would choose with a $5000 budget.
not really, all they'd do is go through and find the highest specced parts. they'd probably end up with thread-rippers for cpu's and those arent needed for gaming. Anything beyond a 3950x, 2080ti, 32gb ram, and assorted NVME goodness/HDD slowness has pretty much no real world usage for primarily gaming workloads, Even the config i listed is kind of retardedly overkill.. a $5000 pricetag might make sense if it included crazy monitors, input devices and the Best Vr headset on the market. but for internals? $5000 is WAY overkill.
@Kaliss quadro will get bottlenecked to oblivion with an older parts
@@djmccullough9233 would those be better for Virtual Computing? and video rendering?
@@djmccullough9233 why would anyone have HDDs in a 5000$ system?
Even after getting best components, on that budget you will still have more than enough money for like 6tb of SSDs.
@@LoisoPondohva well, i dont know about having a $5000 dollar system, but im running around a 2000-2500$ system, and use 8tb spinners to hold all the stuff that would be REDICULOUSLY expensive to put on ssd. 16 tb of ssd storage is still crazily expensive.
hey thank you for this i really needed this budget :D
You're so good at these stuff and that's pretty insane! All the *elements that make up a pc must be very perfect to past your eye, even a small piece cannot escape through your eyes. On a (not very) near feature, I'm going to build a pc, so that's why I really hope that you will help me find out what is the perfect part for a pc that have Ryzen 7 + RTX2060 and 32 gigs RAM. Thanks you very much!
"500 Gigs is too little for a 1000$ pc"
Me watching this with a $2000 pc with only 500 gigs: uhh... yeah exactly..
What good is a 2000$ machine if it cant store anything? :D
Mine is just a little above the first parts list, has a 2 tb SSD and a 2 tb SSHD(I got that one dirt cheap), just so there is no need to worry about installing and saving stuff. On the other hand, upgrading or adding drives is the smallest problem
Fernabi aner Yeah thats why I choose for a better CPU and GPU and less storage so it still would fit in my budget in that time
Watching this on a €3000 pc with 1tb storage: uhmm compress and decompress games?
that only serves to show you where your priorities were at. seems like you didnt need more than 500 gigs? if you only play a couple games and dont have a giant media collection then 500 gigs would be plenty for what you need. Extra storage is nice but unless you absolutely need it then that extra money could easily go into a better cpu or gpu.
Lmao dawg I've got 2tb on my laptop
Kyle "I spent $70 on the parts lists. I hope I make the money back on the ads."
Me: Guiltily think of my currently running ad blocker.
I refreshed the tab and watched the whole ad when I saw your comment.
Its fine, he makes questionable decisions anyway, like his audi trololol
Love it! i never thought that somebody would spend so much money on fans since they don't affect performance as much as getting better system parts like a graphics card or CPU. I was also very surprised with how little storage some of them had.
I went to this video for the entertainment value you bring, unaware I would get a window into your PC build mentality. Just found you, but loving the videos!
overclock? LOL you kidding me you told them you know nothing about computers....
holy fk
That's what I was wondering. He told them he was a noob. Over clocking is out. And a "noob" will not notice a difference between 3200 and 3600. Lol especially since a noob won't notice the 3600 ram defaulting to a lower speed on the MoBo. 😃
Bitwit: "RX 5700 is decent."
Me on a GT 710
btw, for the 3rd list, he went with nvidia because they have nvenc encoding and thats the best encoding for streaming, which you mentionned you were going to do
"Hopefully the ad revenue pays for it"
*gets demonitized*
Inland is the in house MicroCenter brand. I’ve used the 2.5” drives and they are great. Haven’t used the NVME though.
Stuck one in the wife's laptop to see how it actually runs (I set her sims4 data to cloud backup in case of failure). Year later, 1TB Inland NVME is still running strong
Also, I think it's MLC. That P1 in the first system may be NVMe but it's QLC and I'd rather take a smaller drive with MLC over QLC for primary storage.
Yup. The Professional are solid drives. The Premium use similar parts to Samsung 970's and are crazy good!
I have an Inland Premium 1TB NVMe as my boot drive and it is fast as fuck for the price. Microcenter's in-store brand apparently. Probably not the best thermals but great value.
kinosabe yeah, Inland is microcenter’s store brand. I have a 1TB Inland Professional SATA drive for games storage - got it for $80 in store. Definitely not the fastest drive out there, but it stores games and does it well. Inland is definitely a brand I would look to for a secondary/tertiary drive
0:45 "Hopefully the ad revenue makes up for this"
*1 million views later...*
Me doing it for free on the buildapc discord: Y’all are getting paid?
@5:32 this is almost exactly my build that I plan to make. I don't need the 2TB HDD, so I'm just buying the Crucial 1TB NVME SSD and I chose the 5600 XT rather than the 5700 GPU. I planned to buy the cheaper MSI VDH MAX motherboard, rather than the Tomahawk, and also get a more expensive but better airflow case with a Fractal Design Meshify C Mini.
Inland is Micro Center's "in house brand." It's the boot drive for my server, and while many many people (including me) report a broken temperature sensor (constantly reports 99 degrees Celcius in Ubuntu), it's a solid drive
Cian Ormond when will people know that Powerspec is microcenters good in-house brand
Does this mean that my OCZ vertex3 that's reporting 128C (262F) is probably okay? :D
Last guy went all in on the case lmaooo. “If it looks good, it’s gonna be good”
Instead of spending that much on a shitty case and a overpowered psu I would upgrade the GPU
The last parts list was pretty good. Gives you room to upgrade later. I have a similar build and I can go up to a 3900x and a 30 series RTX card with just a BIOS upgrade.
I ain't no tech guru , but if i had the option to decide between having a better graphics card OR 500 extra gigs of ssd , i would get the graphics card 10/10 times . Most of the gamers buy new PC/PC upgrades to run a specific game and having less storage wont be a top priority problem . However squeezing the life out of your graphics card so you can run a game on ultra low could be the difference between having to buy new part/s tomorrow or one year after tomorrow .
"I would like RGB"
"That RGB Fans are a waist of money"
Yea, okay...
Also, Nvidia for single PC streaming. Period. Coming from an all AMD guy, Nvidia is a better choice if you're streaming. The 5700 and 5700XTs are mistakes.
I like my rgb stuff in my system, I mean it’s okay, but I’m kinda new to it and it was pretty tedious and confusing running the extra wires and just causes extra hassle. When are motherboard and fan manufacturers going to come together and integrate rgb power and control through the fan headers and connectors themselves? And make ALL rgb light control BIOS level
I would say I respect your different spelling of "waste", but I'd be lying.
@@nathangamble125 Nah they just have rgb strips wrapped around their waist
@@zackstaa7826 If I build a PC, I'd honestly probably find a way around RGB as it adds way too much time to a PC build with all the extra wires that are just for aesthetic. Oh wait, I forgot, it boosts cpu and ram and aesthetic. it lowers your ping! i need download ram... i am literally not have job cuz i cant get one yet also I am speaking like this because it's idk. So, now let me just type a part that you can actually understand as I can't even understand what i just typed, because grammar and spelling is non-existent in that part. But seriously, RGB is kind of annoying in terms of when you're building it. Maybe I'll RGB myself.
Probably been mentioned, but Inland Premium is the in-house Micro Center brand of digital storage. It's good quality stuff with low prices because it's their own brand, and while they don't have many write-ups of what's inside them, there's some talk that some certain revisions of their drives are really high quality. I don't know about their m.2 stuff, but I snagged a 1TB 2.5" for $80 on sale last year, and it's been amazing to me.
That first list is basically my upgrade. Except for the psu,case and gpu. I already have a 850 80silver, and I'm reusing my HAF922 and saving for a 3070. My memory is also 3800. I'm glad my choices of parts aren't terrible, especially since I'm a first time builder.
Kyle: B minus plus
Me (an intellectual): B
It's B--, B-+, B, B+-, B++
Well you you were a True intellectual it's would be B- because in algebra (+1)(-1)(B) = -B
David An more like
Normal people: B
Me (an intellectual): B minus plus
B+- = about B
B-+= B- since not writing a sign before a number usually indicates that it is positive
You don't write +1, you just write 1.
Too tough on second list, you got best bang for buck solid A in my book it should be on you for storage upgrade.
Ikr he literally told the first guy he should've made some cuts to squeeze in a 3600 memory kit and a 5700XT, and when the second guy made those cuts he said that was a bad thing to do. Make up your mind lmao
I have sort of great options when it comes to choosing a budget for a pc. I made a 1k budget pc list, I think it has good options, but imma make it public so others can see them and I'll make budgets for any budget pc's that are up to 5k
The 2nd guy got robbed on his rating honestly. I think 500gb is pretty good, there are a few outlier games that just completely tank the storage device, and that's where the revision could've come in handy. If you're interested in Call of No Free Storage Space, you can specify that you're interested in that and expand your budget slightly to accomodate it.
THIS MAN IS STRAIGHT OUTTA CONTENT
I mean not a lot of launches due to you know what happening recently
@Alex Martin it's probably because he doesnt plan for it like ltt does, this man just starts speaking after hitting the record on camera
If you dont like it then why you watching it? Idiot. Not to mention it's a great way for people to learn to build computers. Maybe you know how(doubt it) but others dont. Your not the only one watching.....
@@Mastersujo What makes you think he watched the whole video after he began to think that this is poor quality content? Idiot. Not to mention that this video will barely help a newbie build a PC. Maybe you know (doubt it) that this video isn't a tutorial on how to build a PC but a video on Fiverr part pickers? This isn't a tutorial.
Straight outta Compton, I see what you did there
Bitwit is like that one professor at the college that would give you an exam and even though you both have the same answers but gives you a different grade jk xD :p
That plant in the background so much on the edge it's symmetrical with the edge line of the shelf. *hard OCD triggers*
Just a quick personal experience, I have recently purchased a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT OC using Radeon Adrenaline ver 20.4.2 and it has been rock solid with zero crashes. Been playing older titles such as HOMM VI and VII, Mass Effect:A, Crysis 3 and newer games like early access Torchlight 3. The card replaced an XFX RX 570 which I have had problems with every version of Adrenaline drivers in 2020. Absolutely worthwhile investment.
10:05 "1.5 TB is enough for the average gamer"
Shrugs in 250 GB SSD for games.
Who keeps their entire library installed and on a HDD these days?
People who cant afford a lot of ssd storage like me
People who dont have fast internet, I got a 1tb nvme and 2tb HDD so I dont have to worry about downloading the games all over again
I got a 250gb 970 evo for my bootdrive and got a 1tb mx-500 M.2 drive for games. Had an old 250gb 850 evo for my game library before but even though i got a fiber connection, i got tired of constantly deleting and downloading games to manage the space. Especially with some games being around 100gb these days. 500gb drive for games woulda been fine too but with SSD's getting so cheap, might aswell get a bit extra space. Got 13 games installed, some of them quite large and still less than half full.
This guy because internet and shi. I have okay internet but downloading the 75 GB game would take me 2 day, maybe 4 days sometimes depending on weather
@@Dracossaint sorry bud but if it takes you multiple days to download 75 GB, your internet isn't "okay"
doing some math here, that's about 7 Mb/s download speed if it takes you exactly 24 hours
i just put together a build at this price point for my friend a few weeks ago. was gonna go with the ryzen 5 3600. but the ryzen 7 2700x was on sell for 129.99. and paired it with the rtx 2060 ko ultra. my only worry with the build was r7 being on a mini itx build (his choice) with msi b450i gaming plus ac & core v1 case. but so far its running great & good temps. so for the price spent at the time, i think the 2700x was solid over the 50$ more 3600
whered you find a 2700x for that price
Finding a pc like that for 1000 dollars would be extremely rare nowadays
Love your vids bro, only thing I have to say is the second "best" build is the easiest and cheapest for even a noob to upgrade. The first one would need a whole new set of ram and a new gpu to compete with it. So imo I wouldve changed those around since it's just storage and not handicapping your quality of game or anything of the such.
The whining over space so much. Where i'll agree 512 gigs is not enough. A 1TB ssd is more than enough IMO why do you need 20 games downloaded at any given time. Most people play like 3-5 games actively at the same time tbh. Free up space by deleting games you wont play again I.E single player linear games that once you beat you wont play again.
You are totally right and yea there are people that don't really need too much storage but i think kyle wanted to appease the more storage hungry audience like me for example.
I have pretty low end pc (around less than $200) and 1tb hard drive (+ a 320 gig hdd backup) isn't enough and soon ill need a new drive.
I have about 4.5-5 TB in my system. With an ass ton of games installed. I typically play only on weekends now and usually play 1-2 different games every weekend. Although, I know I am the minority here, as I used to be the type you speak of. Sort of still am, as the games that I play most often overall, are all on SS memory. As for the deleting game's part, not a lot of people have very good internet it may take them a LONG time to download the games, which if they forgot to start it early may have them sitting there and twiddling their thumbs.
@@necrobynerton7384 Where did you even find a 320gb HDD? Tell me its a hold out from an older system? That seems like Tech History now. lol. I know its not that old, but my High School computer teacher used to have this giant drive that was like a 5.25-inch drive and about 4 inches tall, had like 5 giant platters, and that capped at 25 megs. Ahh the good ole days.
20 games? what games are you playing that allow you to download 20 games to only 1TB? After you install OS and software you are looking at around 850GB of that 1TB before over provisioning. There are many games that are over 100GB the new COD is what 170GB? Say you do only play 5 games if the average of those games are 60GB each that is 300GB, I hope you do not plan on making videos or storing video files or throwing another game or two you only plan to play a few times on that drive.
@@Kirinketsu_ He is saying people DONT need 20 games installed, and since they play 1-3 games regularly, people don't generally need more storage.
Who else didn't know you can get *paid* to build a pc part picker list?
That case is actually really good it’s made very well I have the 465x and it’s got some nice features especially that the fans can change colors before you boot into windows like red then to your color scheme as you go into windows
I think the second list is the best. 500gb isn't a lot of storage, but it's enough to function with if you only have a few games installed at a time, and it's really easy to come back a few months down the line and spend 50 bucks to add more storage, at which point you would have the most powerful cpu and gpu out of any of the builds, which I think is the most important part
13:50 "I've never even heard of inland" yet shops at micro center...
Zunyr Micro Center is large but uncommon you’re lucky if you live next to one and he just so happens to
Inland, Team, TCSunBow, I've never heard a RUclipsr recommend one before but on real forums and chat rooms they're recommended left and right. The difference between a cheap-ass SATA III drive with a DRAM module and a not-trash controller is indistinguishable from a PCI-e Gen 4 NVME drive in consumer workloads.
@@shitposter695 I agree, I knew they existed but never shopped at one until I moved to Boston, now it's right down the road, I rarely order from Newegg anymore bc of it
Zunyr yeah I’m lucky enough to live by one to
I have a big gripe with your RAM recommendation: I have a Ryzen 5 2600 with an rtx2060, and I run it at 3200mHz even though my kit is 3600mHz. A lot of Ryzen chips can't achieve, a 3600mHz stable clock speeds, and when I tried, it crashed my PC. I also tried 3400mHz, but it wasn't stable enough.
this so much and the actual difference between 3200 and 3600 is perceptible.
while your statement might be true for for Zen+ 2000-series processors, with a Zen2 3000-series CPU the sweet spot for RAM speed DEFINITLY is 3600 MHz, with the difference to 3200 MHz being clearly noticable
Ive got 3600Mhz 14-14-14-34 in a 8GBx4=32GB coinfig on my 2700x with an Asus X470-F
It depends on the motherboard as well (though all of the motherboards in the custom builds in this video should support 3600MHz, yours might not).
Ryzen 1000 can work at 3200 like all Intel cpus 2x8gb ram, ryzen 2000 can run 3600 2x8gb, ryzen 3000 can run 4000 2x8gb which translates to 2400 4x8 3200 4x8 3600 4x8 and the ryzen 3990x supports 3200 8x32gb
Great video.. we intermediate pc builders need more like you. Were you able to verify the prices and sources?!
The 2nd one was probably the best. Storage is a cheap upgrade, and the sata SSD would make it super easy to put together vs a m.2 and hdd. No need to configure the boot drive, etc. He made it simple for the buyer based off their experience.
06:17 MSI is not compatible with anything above 2933mhz without using A-XMP.
i have 3200 CL16 and that seems to be the sweet spot from what I read. Hearing you say that 3600 would increase fps, well not by much.
Probably not at all, tbh.
The worst part is that he never mentions the cl of the ram because I bet the 3600mhz is cl18/19 is at least same or worst than 3200mhz cl16
Yes the sweet spot 3200 but you can get more of it you have a low CL
For your example 3200cl16 is better than a 3600cl18
@@pedrosousa1888 that's what I said
I run 3600 at CL15 in my system and I've tested 3200 and I can tell you, there is no difference. I also paid a rather large premium to get 3600 at CL15, so value-wise it's poop. Don't overspend on memory! Do get at least 3200 (preferably CL16 or lower) for a Ryzen CPU, always.
The best thing about storage is that it's the most reusable main component for a new PC. Take the old storage you have on your current PC and use it as secondary storage options. With that in mind, I usually go for 1 good/fast, new storage option, at a smaller capacity, to save money.
There are literally apps now that you can download from the app store that are catered to creating custom pc builds. If you can't customize one, you can have one automatically made for you and all you have to do is type down your specified budget range.
Second guy literally did what you expected first dude too do and then got mad he did that..... wtf man ??? Im surprised you have a wife being so indecisive lmao
I couldn't make it past the first list. Seemed as if he was making excuses to gripe about a wish list they didn't know existed.
He got upset because the dude skipped on storage while the other dude was able to fit a m.2 1 terabyte and 2 terabytes of hdd storage
@@realmusic_enjoyer he said to the first dude to cut corners to get a better GPU and ram. That is exactly what the second dude did. And he not happy at all with it. I don't know man. he is just dumb. And he made it sounds like he is the best at PC.
@@realmusic_enjoyer that is the cute you have to make to keep the price below $1000. and if you want more storage cuz you have about 70 csgo on your pc. you can slide another ssd in anytime.
@@realmusic_enjoyer i have a $3000 pc with only 250gb of ssd. i have no problem with it at all.
8:55 Don't think the 1600AF is on PCPartpicker. Though he could still have done an external link to Amazon or something possibly.
I really enjoyed this vid as an amateur builder. Though a $1k budget seems tiny bit low imo. I built my first Desktop PC on the budget that I otherwise would have bought a laptop for, so my budget was max $1400. Of these 5 I too preferred option 2 as well however irrespective of the low storage capacity
Part 2: building all the PCs and testing them
Bitwitcs friend: Hey Bitwit!
Bitwit: Hey friend have you heard about amd ryzen 1600 AF ? Its an upgraded version of the ryzen 1600 that has a 12nanimeter chip which basically makes it a ryzen 2 2600 in disguise! Also it only costs 85 dollars
Love the videos man you've inspired me to build my 1st gaming PC after 20 odd years of console players!
Great vid. It would be great, if you could make this for a movie making configuration. Could you please do that? Color grading in Da Vinci takes a lot of resources and it is hard to get effective price for hardware which would still be effective or effectively upgrade-able in 2 years time as memory and computing requirements rise.
Was just making a budget PC for myself, Decided to get the Same RIpjaws 2x8 G sticks at 65 bucks. just found out rn the 3600 went down price and the 3200 went down too so if i wasnt to rushed i could have gotten the same ram but 3600 speed. for the same price i bought the 3200 at. Hurts to see it.
inland premium is the microcenter brand, my cousing got one of their SSDs a couple of years ago for the OS and so far no problems
They have great speeds, Phison E12 controller, faster than Crucial P1 and Intel 660P, almost rivaling 970 Evo Plus. QLC memory. Definitely a great NVMe SSD for the money.
Bitwit: I spent 70$ on a video!!!
MrBeast:
I like the 2nd, because when there will be time to get an hdd when u have a money to buy in the next upgrade.
That first build is essential a build im doing right now.. but with a rx 5700 xt, b550 board 3600mhz ram and a metallicgear neo air for like 2200 AUD (which is about 1526.94 USD... parts in Australia are ridiculous costs)
The guy that made the last parts list works for the verge on the side.