Bokeh Challenge Part 2 -Nocticron vs the rest

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  • Bokeh Challenge Part 2 -Nocticron vs the rest
    The second part of my bokeh challenge. I'm comparing 6 portrait tele lenses. How does the Nocticron 42,5mm F1.2 stack up in this comparison.
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Комментарии • 52

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 4 года назад +5

    Surprising how little difference there is wide open between the Lumix 42.5mm 1.7 and the Leica 42.5 1.2. Considering their usual application as portrait lenses, and the limitations of RUclips compression, the price difference of £299 compared to £1149 seems hard to justify.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      The difference certainly is not that big, but that's how it is, for the last few percent of gain you pay a lot more. However, it's good to realize that the Lumix has slightly narrower angle of view, which helps a bit too.

    • @Steinbockhase
      @Steinbockhase 4 года назад

      Agreed. Happy I have the 1.7f :-)

    • @BarryMaskell
      @BarryMaskell 4 года назад +1

      I have the Noctricron For video the extra capture area is great as the cheaper lens captures slightly less area at the same distance especially if your camera crops in on 4k like my G85 but the 1.7 is great for street as it’s compact and light

    • @ookiemand
      @ookiemand 4 года назад

      I wonder if the Leica lenses can pull ahead when a higher resolution is used, exposing a bigger difference when using the 80MP high resolution mode?

  • @BladeLabMiami
    @BladeLabMiami 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the comparison. One suggestion: leave the shots up for at least six seconds. RUclips allows you to use the arrow keys to skip forward/back by 5 seconds when paused which makes it easier to compare the shots.

  • @paadams26
    @paadams26 4 года назад +1

    Great fun. I got 3 right.
    Thanks so much for you video blogs. I have gone through about 8 in the last few days

  • @Crushonius
    @Crushonius 3 года назад +3

    Nailed the 1.2 and the 1.7
    considering the price difference the 1.7 is plenty good enough
    especially if the background is a little further away

  • @ezekielfernandez4077
    @ezekielfernandez4077 4 года назад +1

    Hoping for a 12mm 1.4 review hehe...

  • @MrBogus1983
    @MrBogus1983 4 года назад +1

    I d like to see cheap and tiny Lumix 35-100 3.5-5.6 in this test. It's the most popular and you reviewed it in the past. Great fun!

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад +1

      I don't have that lens any more, I returned it, so could not have it. However, suspect it would look very similar to the Lumix G 12-60mm.

  • @kemerthomson
    @kemerthomson 4 года назад +3

    As with the previous challenge, I find the brief glimpses of each, and also the inability to zoom to 100% makes it almost impossible to really compare. It would be nice if you could upload them somewhere for more careful consideration.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for your input. The video is 4k and when I watch it on my 27 inch screen the photos are about 10x17 inch, which should be enough to see any differences. You can always pause the video and like I said this not meant to be scientific 100% pixel peep. I'll consider your proposition in the future.

  • @RudyRisingWt
    @RudyRisingWt 4 года назад +3

    Oh Man. Iove the 42,5 f1.7!! An awesome result for the price, specially with the obvious comparison with the Noct. I want mine back😢🙂

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yes, the tiny Lumix G 42.5mm is a gem😀

    • @ookiemand
      @ookiemand 4 года назад +1

      I have it, but I should use it more often.

    • @RudyRisingWt
      @RudyRisingWt 4 года назад

      @@ookiemand yes, you should! 🙂🙂

  • @ruuddirks5565
    @ruuddirks5565 4 года назад +1

    Surprisingly little difference. It seems that smaller sensor size becomes the great equalizer. More than variation in the aperture.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      I think the pictures size, the final output size, is much more of an equalizer. Very small pictures have less difference and large have more, because in large size you can see more.

  • @whitewalker9622
    @whitewalker9622 4 года назад +1

    Does anyone out there know how to get out of eshtr into mshtr? I´m mostly using P or A mode on my gx800.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching the video. What was your favorite lens? You'll find the shutter here: Camera menu > Shutter type.

    • @whitewalker9622
      @whitewalker9622 4 года назад

      @@mattisulanto I´m surprised I liked the first one most!

  • @karolkizlo1945
    @karolkizlo1945 4 года назад +1

    I knew numbers 4 and 5 :)
    I use 42.5 F1.7 and i think it is a real bokeh monster!
    Quality and shape of the bokeh is amazing and the lens is super small with low market velue.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      Good job! The tiny Lumix G 42,5mm is one great lens.

    •  4 года назад

      Which lens do you recommend to have as a set/team with the 42.5? Based on filmmaking needs

    • @karolkizlo1945
      @karolkizlo1945 4 года назад +1

      @ i love 12-40 f2.8 Olympus ... But people usually go for Panasonic 12-35 f2.8 due to built in image stabilizer. These are lenses which cover basic needs if it comes to angles of view.

  • @pfirsichdrop
    @pfirsichdrop 4 года назад +2

    I recently bought the sigma 56mm 1.4 and its beautiful :)

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      Good for you! Go get some awesome photos on your new lens.

  • @Titanpharao
    @Titanpharao 4 года назад +1

    9/12 or 6/6 in the wide open challange. Love to see my Leica 12-60 do a great job.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      Thanks for trying, and you did very well.

  • @DaveKingMusic
    @DaveKingMusic 4 года назад +2

    It’s a Ton-eh challenge! Bring it on!

    • @ookiemand
      @ookiemand 4 года назад +3

      I can dream of a Camera Conspiracy's collaboration, the joking Canadian and the serious Fin :) - It could be hilarious!

    • @Verde88
      @Verde88 4 года назад

      @@ookiemand Only one of them is a REAL PHOTOGRAPHER xD

    • @ookiemand
      @ookiemand 4 года назад

      "Loser!" ;)

  • @robertoposa1120
    @robertoposa1120 4 года назад +4

    No difference to me at f 5.6 - wide open the were 5 and 6 but could not tell which is which - see now there were the two leica‘s - it‘s probably me being used to leica lenses

  • @brianthomas8098
    @brianthomas8098 4 года назад +1

    Hi Matti: I watched both of these comparisons and I must not be a lens snob because I think they are all good with the differences being very minor. I don't think most people would notice the difference. So, I'm not sure that the additional cost of the Nocticron is worth it -- to me anyway. I really enjoy your channel and the thought that you put into your content. Thanks!

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад

      Thanks for your kind words. That's it, they look very similar here, at least. The differences may be a big deal to some, but some could not care less. It really depends on what you are shooting.

  • @Steinbockhase
    @Steinbockhase 4 года назад +4

    I missed the G X vario 35-100 2.8f in your comparison; one of my favorite tele-lenses.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад +1

      Unfortunately I don't have that lens, but there are two other lenses at F2.8 and they probably look pretty close the same as the 35-100mm would look.

    • @Mir1189
      @Mir1189 4 года назад

      @@mattisulanto I highly recommend 35-100 F2.8 (Mark II) as well. I expected it will be a common tele zoom lens, but it turned out to be great for portraits as it does incredible subject/background separation, when every detail on the subject is perfectly sharp.
      Also i guessed right Nocticron and Lumix 42.5 F1.7. :)

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад +1

      @@Mir1189 I have used the 35-100mm, but I don't have it. Thanks for trying the bokeh challenge.

    • @MrJapanforce
      @MrJapanforce 4 года назад +1

      @@Mir1189 not only perfect for portraits but also for landscapes! really, the panasonic 35-100 is superb

    • @Mir1189
      @Mir1189 4 года назад

      @@MrJapanforce Did some photos in my home city (quite empty now). The lens has great combination of compression and high contrast. So i turned bad light (5pm) into BW set with high contrast.

  • @mrc4nl
    @mrc4nl 4 года назад +1

    I thought 3 had the leica colors, so i thought it was the nocticron. and 4 looked a bit cheap like the 25 f1.7. so i thought that was the 42.5 f1.7.

  • @slows728
    @slows728 4 года назад +1

    I prefer the rendering of 2 and 5.

  • @valdiskrebs566
    @valdiskrebs566 4 года назад +3

    So little diff b/t 1.2 and 1.7 - not worth the much higher price IMHO.

    • @mattisulanto
      @mattisulanto  4 года назад +3

      You are not the only one who thinks like that. Like in everything else, you pay a lot for that last few percentage of gain.

  • @ezekielfernandez4077
    @ezekielfernandez4077 4 года назад +4

    The nocticron is expensive... But it probably is the best prime of m43 in terms of sharpness

  • @shelwee
    @shelwee 3 года назад +1

    LOL. 4 and 5 spot on. The rest...meh