Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver by Keizaron in
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Runner introductions start at 13:16
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2:03:50 - Imagine being in the Elite Four, and the newest challenger walks in, stands right in front of you, and starts force-feeding a legendary Pokémon rare candies before starting the fight.
They probably start taking notes 😂
I feel like you just start getting a hair nervous.
Explanation why so much, unfortunately, failed in the run:
The main reason was the RNG manipulation not working at the very beginning. He actually was prepared and had another DS on with the RNG manipulation already done but because it was on for so long, the time/hour changed, which also screwed up the RNG manipulation, which is an incredibly important aspect of the run.
But because already more than 8 minutes passed, he decided to go with no RNG manipulation anyway. Because of that the whole route was screwed, many encounters happened, and he had to improvise *a lot*, on which he did a *really* good job on.
He even had another backup savefile on another DS on a SouldSilver cart for after about 1 hour and 13 minutes, but because he apparently didn't have the right items on that cart he switched to, the final Red fight was pretty much impossible.
He made the best decision and stopped trying and ended the run before going over estimate, which is really respectable. I also really respect how he tried his best to make this run happen after the all the unfortunate stuff that happened and even made it, in my opinion, quite hilarious with his and the couch's commentary.
Tigame best explanation for one of the best run so far of Pokemon heart gold/soul silver. really enjoyed all the way through
Given his past GDQ endeavors, I'd say that Keizaron is probably one of the best at making chicken salad out of chicken scratch. From what he was dealing with, he had a ton of improvising on the fly just to even get to Red in 2 hours, and deliver a great run. It didn't finish, but props to him on showing heart, as well as respect by not trying to go over estimate.
The second DS he went to unfortunately didn't have the actual backup because the RNG seeding got screwed up. He made the decision to give up on getting the manip live because he thought he had the proper backup. I'm not sure what the best way to handle it would have been once he switched and saw it was wrong, but switching back to potentially 10+ resets to hit the manip probably would not have been good in the marathon setting.
You didn't explain why Red fight failed correctly, it wasn't cause of items, it was cause of getting Hail during the fight.
Usually, when you fight Red, you get hail, but there are specific dates where you get what it's called "Diamond Dust", and that avoids getting hail during the fight. Unfortunatelly this called Diamond Dust doesn't work when you change your DS date during the run, unless you are already at the peak of Mt.Silver.
Keizaron changed DS clock on Blue for RNG manipulation. Blue RNG Manipulation is relativelly new and they didn't know it must be done without any clock change. There was another issue when setting up the backup cart that already would have made Diamond Dust impossible too anyway though.
I would rather watch these games be done without RNG manipulation. Watching them with RNG manipulation is pretty much just watching a human manipulate a computer. It's pretty boring to watch to be honest and doesn't show any logical thinking in the strategy of the game. Which in this run showed - which was FAR more interesting.
Keizaron continues to put on fantastic trainwrecks of runs at GDQ! I feel bad for him, but at the same time Animorphs is legitimately my favorite GDQ run of all time. The event isn't about having perfect runs, but to showcase runs for a good cause. Even with the heavy improvisation this was still a fantastic showcase run though, and one of the most entertaining of the event.
The runner for this was amazing both at improv and in personality, I can't imagine how I'd handle so many things going wrong, but he made this run amazing regardless.
he's got practice with RNG heavy games, so it's not his first rodeo that has RNG screwing him over repeatedly. Keiz runs are always fun, though
Well it's Keizaron. It's not a Keizaron run at GDQ unless RNG screwing him over or something wrong happening :p
This is a very true statement.
Have you seen Keiz runs of animorphs? well, kinda like that with the RNG screwing him over a lot, he makes the best out of it, thats all
Keiz was the poster child for funny failed run at GDQ until this year where the estimate was very generous.
"Pizza is exerting its pressure"
I've been there before.
Connor Floyd thank you for explaining the reference.
Old Bird rikuu isn’t how you spell Raikou, you dsl moron. And the joke isn’t raikou is exerting pressure so what does your comment contribute captain obvious.
@Old Bird fool
Lololol
Really exerted it’s pressure on that XY run
"clefairy's gym is shaped like a whitney"
In my mind marathons are primarily for showcasing runs rather than executing them flawlessly, if anyone wants to look up the current best recorded run then that's usually available so things going poorly in a setting like this isn't a tragedy. The commentary was solid enough that even though I've never seen a run of this game before (or even this game before at all) I think I've been given a fairly decent explanation of how the speedrun is supposed to go and why it's a cool thing that humans have done, so in that light the run more or less succeeded at its purpose. Kinda.
Also the banter was top-notch, way to make two hours of walking and dialogue boxes entertaining.
@Some One1 Except with car shows people still like to boast and kinda go over-the-top about their prized vehicles lol
I love it when everything goes wrong in a marathon, and the runners have to think on their feet. Good show, Keizameme.
That’s the charm of pokemon runs in general, making on the spot decisions
Even if it didn't end as hoped, this is a very impressive run with a lot of work behind it. I'm impressed and inspired by Keiz's knowledge and execution, not to mention good spirits, even when all the odds were stacked against him. That makes a truly great runner.
Also, shoutouts to FIRE SONIC. The real OG of the RNG underworld.
even though the run kind of failed i enjoyed it because the commentators were so likable
Atomic Cheddar same
kinda sucks because other than kingdom hearts this had probably the the most likeable runner/couch combo
Pokemon runs are full of RNG unfortunately.
the run had many ups and downs , and yes the commentator was very likable , but the actual " Fails " made it more fun to watch because a flawless run doesnt do it ffor many people
That Pikachu cry was perfect, I was sure it was fake at first.
So true!
Wen
@@jonnygamer4567 26:26
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Announcer has the most adorable voice I've ever heard, plus her pikachu impression is more than adorable!
That Pikachu cry was 99% spot on! The fuck?
Ive seen so many women already who can do this, wtf is wrong with them? :D
1:06:57 for those who wonder.
Also, that pikachu cry is my fetish.
I agree.
the jynx cry is better imho @1:07:21
It's kind of EdoBean's specialty (I think that's how you spell her name). It's pretty much asked of here any time she's on and it never fails to be impressive. She can perform a great Kirby "Puyo!".
This run was a catastrophic failure on so many levels but I love how he kept his cool the whole time.
Years later and i still come back to this run. Such a trainwreck, but so fun do watch. Keiz and the couch were such good entertainers
One of the best announcers in gdq imo.
PS: It was a perfect run to me, very enjoyable to watch.
Who is it?
@@archimedesamazonas5379 Edobean
"Everyone always talks about how they like, you know, in gen 2 they go back and name the guy ??? because they thought that was his name." ...I thought I was the only one. I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought we were supposed to do that...
I like this marathon.
Something I'm noticing from comments below is that a lot of people don't really know the difference between a Marathon and a Speedrun (tbh I didn't until a few days ago).
A Speedrun is, well, a speedrun. You use a predetermined route to go as fast as possible to the objective. Usually there's very little room for error and I've seen runners either quit or reset after a few bad things happening so that they can attempt the run again with hopefully a better outcome.
With a Marathon you can't do that. With GDQ as an example, you're slotted into a spot where you give them your estimate of approximately how long you think you're going to be, and before and after your run are other runners. Going over estimate by a few minutes is usually fine, but if you have an estimate of 2:40:00 and you go to 3:00:00 that's not good as that means the organizers will have to reorganize everything (though tbh, they're more likely to just boot you out at that point rather than let you continue). Even half an hour into the run where something goes bad, you're unlikely to see any GDQ speedrunners reset (I've never seen this happen in GDQ myself, but I haven't seen every video). With the start it falls into the fact that you're not there to do a speedrun as much as you're there for entertainment purposes, and there's only so much entertainment to be had when you're having to reset the console to try and get the frame perfect seed, which is why Keiz went with the backup, which he could do because it's not a Speedrun, it's a Marathon. Doing something like that invalidates a speedrun, but not a marathon. (Of course keep in mind that yes, if you do everything perfect first try in a Marathon and get world record, it is still a Speedrun and therefore you would still have world record, in case someone tries to say something weird in regards to that).
In any case, my point is that while this was a trainwreck of a speedrun, this was such an entertaining marathon to watch. I love Keiz and his weird superpower to always somehow trip, fall, break a few bones, but still put up an amazing performance.
Heartgold is probably my favourite Pokemon game so far
nah nothing beats original gold. well crystal does.
to be fair..... gen 2 was great with two entire Regions to travel around and 16 Batches to earn....... but from a pure Gameplay standpoint was Gen 2 not realy great....... it beats Gen 1 by miles... but then again Gen 1 had the Special Stat Problem.... and you could pretty much Softlock the game on one of the last fights of the Game(even when it would cost a little to much bad luck as taht it would happend to someone...)
from a Pure Gameplay standponint was gen 3 ore maybe Gen 4 better(in would say Gen 4 because.... the Two Bikes Mechanic in Gen 3 was dumb and pointless, and well it WAS to much water(witch infect the Gameplay in a way that you would pretty much encounter a shit ton of Water Pokemons) but overall i would say the second half of Gen 5 is the Best Pokemon Games so war(Black and White 2)and Gen 6 was pretty much a all time low that would go even lower with gen 7(Mega Evultions are completly Bulcrap and sun and moon is not a Real Pokemon game anymore)
have you ever looked on your display while playing it? sorry but HGSS is horrible. it looks atrocious at least to me. they managed it to get chunkier animations than gen two literally twenty years older technology and the character sprites hurt your eyes. well atleast my eyes. sorry but gen 4 and 5 in general were atrocious. and it did not add anything to the old games. the new moves, pokemon and mechanics like double battle (gen 3) abilities (gen 3) physical/special split (gen 4) did not add anything to the games value. they did not make the game any more fun. they just give it the bland feeling like "oh well we have no idea how to make money let´s recycle the old gens, and use our new systems on them" seriously there was nothing in the game, that made me feel like the twenty bucks were well spent. well that game saved me when i was so broke that i literally needed ten bucks to pay my phone bill. but it´s sad if the best a game has done for you was saving you with the money you got reselling it.
i love the classic gen two but all remakes were atrocious. i´ll maybe accept OR/AS as they at least tried and added something to the game with the delta episode and really made use of the mega evolution even embedded it into gen 3s lore. that was a good remake. can you tell me one thing that had any significance to the player? i think they raised the level of reds pokes by 7 pikachu lead is 88 instead of 81. and what about FR/LG? iron claw for charmander so even an idiot could go through brock. brilliant. erase all difficulties kids could have had. sorry but HGSS is utter garbage to me. didn´t mean to turn it into a rant, but well looks like i did
and THAT my friends is a nostalgie freak that cant stand that his favorit Game of a Series is utterly garbage in comparison to the Remake...... the Animation where good in HG/SS the idea with the Pokemon following you was fun even when unnecessary. the Pokéathlon was a fun even when meaningless adition. the Sprint shoes did make the game much more enjoable in comparison to the Original where you was crawling for almost half the game (atleast half of Johto) the new moves where ok. double Battles did make the game much more fun due to the fact that you could no longer run trough the game with one Decent Pokemon because you would be screwed in a double battle. abillties where a little bit of the cheap side of new features but where nothing that woudl ruin a game for me... the Physical/special Split was the best decision Gamefreak could make after the split of the Special Stat into Special Defense and Special Attack in Gen 2... i makes just fucking sense..... having all moves of one type having either Phsical ore Special is just fucking dumb...... it just didn make sense that an attack like Fire Punch was Special because it was fire. ore that Dragon Claw was Special because it was Dragon.... it just didn make sense....
i genuinely hate the gen four sprites. i literally started the game and thought "hey you remind me of my chinese friend ug lee" sorry i really hate them with a passion. gen four is easily the worst gen .and not even the fact it has a remake of my favourite gen can save that. that literally doesn´t make it better because to me personally the remake felt thoughtless what was added felt bland and forced. and it had oversights, that were just atrocious. how could Gyaarados get a buff like it did in gen four if you´re literally expected to catch one in the storyline? how could nobody see ,that this thing would sweep the entire game easy peasy lemon squeezy? i gave heart gold a second try after it being boring with gyarados, but it wasn´t better. sure it got more difficult because i actually had to use a team. which isn´t a bad thing, but it did notr improve the fun i had with the game at all. i´ve been very hesistant with the gen three remake after this and only bought it when i knew it had new content and it´s graphics weren´t exactly a sight to behold except for the few cinematics but weren´t bad either. i´ve learned my lesson with remakes thanks to gen four. it´s like covers of a song. it 99,999999999% of the time bad. but there might be a gold nugget like disturbeds sound of silence. HGSS belongs to the 99,9999999%. as i said the best HG did for me was saving me a lot of trouble because i needed ten bucks and had a game i could sell without any feeling of loss at all.
I feel so bad for Keiz. I hope that he makes a comeback next GDQ!
PROPS to Keizaron for doing an amazing job with the run, despite everything going wrong.
Good entertaining run. I don't care that it went wrong cos it was still entertaining to watch and the runner and couch were good entertainers too and I still understood and learned a lot. That matters more to me than a precision run. He clearly knows and likes this game.
Whoever announcer that make that Pikachu sound did a great job for that.
Tried donating for the announcer. her voice is pure
Her name's Edobean
To the rescue my friend.
@ian she's like a qtπ petite girl
seeing all these comments call this a "catastrophic failure" but I am seriously impressed by anyone who can beat this game in under 5 hours, and this guy did it in under 3
That pikachu cry is spot on
Damn, only person I've seen with such bad luck is Werster.
Well, in spite of so much going wrong, Keiz still pulled off a very cool and well commented run!
This is one of my favorite runs this year. Really nice and entertaining guy!
at least the battery didnt die :)
26:20 Best announcer ever!
You're Welcome
Who is the announcer?
@@wolflordy3193 figured out?
Silver/Gold were the best Pokemon games ever with the best music. Glad for this run of their remake (Soul Silver / Heart Gold)
this was probably one of my favorite runs that year. I dont really care if he finished it or not
Man i remember when i did my first speed run on soulsilver...whitney's clefairy used metronome into iron tail into a defense drop and then miltank just rolled over me after that feelsbadman
think this is my new favourite runner
Next time, we need to run "Hey you Pikachu".
In case more people would wonder, Announcer's name is Edobean
A fun run, I was entertained and that's the thing that matters :)
No shenanigans???? That dude is my favorite speedrunner
I usually only watch speedruns with him being the runner or at least on the couch. But due to a lack of content i watch other runners. Gunnermaniac3 and Keizaron are pretty damn cool too
Shenanagans
He can't be everywhere all the time. Although I wish he was
26:22 Pikachu Cry - For anyone who is interested!
TheRealRem 2:25:29 is the other.
I think this is the first time I've ever seen a run not completed :O
Elder Li, I just got that when I said it out loud after he said it
This is like the 6th Pokémon gdq run ive watched in binge but before this i watch like 3 or 4 random runs like crash and stuff
the host is amazing! shes super nice
I also named my bad guy ??? The first time i played the game. I mean, he introduced himself to me with this Name
All these people here for the actual speedrun.. im just here for the entertainment value
Great run! I can't wait for the gdq where they'll finally speedrun dppt and bw1/2 :D
Holy shit, looks like one of my wishes came true. BW2 hype for AGDQ!!
I love how even though they screwed up the manip Fire Sonic still clutched it because he lands an unusually large amount of crits
I believe in physicquil
Who is this host?? That pikachu cry was SPOT ON!
i try to find as well . she is really cool but cannot find anything online
it's sad that it didnt end properly.. but i kind of watched the whole video in one go, no breaks lol also i'm glad i didnt read the comments first, since if i knew the run was gonna fail in the end.. i might have not watched it completely
pokemon is so much fun guys!
who does the voice commentary? she's great at commentary and pikachu impression
a better name for cyndaquil woulda been PK FIRE
Jeezus. 2:36? I grinded for longer than that for just the league! Let alone the entire game.
XD Falkner- Fire Sonic has just entered blaze so this ember will do more damage...
Quick question, was there a reason Keiz was unable to manipulate the Red fight? Is it because hail prevents rng manipulation?
Yes and No. But it's not the hail that prevents RNG Manipulation. If I recall correctly, the manipulation actually puts the Mt. Silver Red Fight in a rare state of Diamond Dust, which is actually neutral weather. This is pertinent both because of the lingering damage that we saw on Raikou which immediately ended the first round, but because in Gen4 onward, Blizzard is 100% accurate in hailing weather. This allows for them to abuse Flash accuracy manipulation far more readily to manipulate the perfect red fight. But ultimately, after the Flash is up, the sequence of events is set up that he should not really need to heal, if I remember properly. Of course, with permanent hail in the fight, he inevitably would have to do so.
Announcer is adorable
I hope Keizaron does a redemption run next GDQ
"everything is the same, just ignore that it's soul silver now"
Like it makes a difference, they just sell the same game twice.
@@dannydelacruz7303 no, twice
Just a heads up. This run got mercy killed.
Not that it makes the run any less enjoyable (in my opinion).
Wahh-luigi Poor Mercy. May she rest in peace.
Keiz is my favorite runner, bar-none.
This was great, commentary was awsome
This was ment for entertainment and I guess showing what happens not an actual run that's why the switching.
nice run nevertheless. keep it up dude!
Nice speed run.
Gunnermaniac really has a hoody and jeans on in July! It’s probably 90 degrees outside and he’s walking around like that
my first playthrough i tried to name the rival passerby boy and he just ended up beung called passerb
i had once a run where i got out the starting town with the pokemon and headed in the first patch of grass, boom, shiny santret... sad me at that time, because you get the pokeball only later.
At 1:26:20 I still don't understand how or why he changed his party of Pokemon.
Since no one said it I think raikou is a sabretooth tiger :D
joeythomas86 that's right ... they are not dogs .. Entei is a lion and Suicune is a cheetah .. They don't even look like dogs ..
For me it will always be a Sabretooth Dog :3
Who was the commentor who did the pikachu voice
So are they not allowed to go to pokemon centers in runs like this? Or do they use ethers and potions to save time
to save time
Since Keiz only used raikou, it's faster to deposit him in the pc and withdrawing, rather than healing the whole party and playing some fancy music
What do they mean when they say stuff like "5 in 8" or "5 and 8"? Like about the Gengar at 1:32:xx
That refers to ranged attacks (attacks with a ranged amount of damage), and there is a chance that if you hit the lower range you don't kill the enemy. For that particular fight 5/8 are the chances of the ranged killing the enemy.
1:06:54 For an incredible pikachu cry
26:26 *Pikachu*
I feel so bad for him the run didn’t work at all. He seems so awesome.
Why was cyndiquil a physical one? I'll tell you why it's because it was Fire Sonic and as we all know Sonic like to do a dash attack which is physical
*Looks at Lance* "And this is why we have Lapras
are these donations in usd or some sort of "stream" dollars?
Those US flag printed tanks look absolutely terrible.
I think that was the point
Homophobe
@@jimboslice3451 MezzoForte4 is a homophobe because they think a shirt is ugly?
How did he get raikou? He dont even catching it. Is it cheat code?
i swear the guy playing looks like kip from napolean dynamite just a bit tanner though
I hope he transferred and kept fire sonic 😍
can't believe i missed this :(
This game is hard! looking forward to seeing how he pulls this off
How’d he get the raikou?
Wait how did het get that raikou
So what are the rules regarding cart switches?
It invalidates the run. Normally he would have had to redo the RNG manip at the beginning over and over again which is not very immersive to watch. And as GDQ is not about getting a good, valid run to submit but about showcasing the game, he brought backup files where he already did the RNG manipulation (but everything else is the same). It's for making the game more entertaining to watch.
IschmarVI Speedruns thank you so much for the informative reply!
her voice
You mean its possible to not have hail there? How do you even do that?
This is my most favorite run ever 😂😂😂 I laughed the whole time
wow what a good game
What is the using of soft reset that he do? #sorrymyenglisharebad
goes to show that pokemon speedruns can easily fail
Is there a video of this run as it is supposed to look somewhere? it sounds really cool nd id love to see it when it works as intended
This is a modded handheld that can output?
I'm curious to know why they wouldn't give Raikou Rain Dance to deal with the uncertainty of Thunder.
Ok so if everything had gone according to plan, how exactly do you beat Blue's team with just a level 54 Raiku?
That Ember Crit