I lost myself as a teenager. Hanged myself at 18 and if the rope hadn't snapped none of the joys, like my young adult son, would have ever happened. Plus, my parents would have been forced to discover horror. Having nearly lost my son in 2021 at 26 years old, to leukemia, the terror and gut punching pain that i might truly lose my world really made me feel more guilty about nearly leaving my parents that pain. Luckily, he is 2 years in remission and will turn 29 on Sunday! I've also lost several to their own hands and that pain is a specially unhealing wound that can fester. That description in the song is so spot on for depression and suicidal ideation. The imagery it evokes. Being trapped in myself, unable to leave my bruised, broken body with dark secrets in my floors that others have told me, and then i lost the people to their own hand or they left or passed leaving me with this life-changing secrets that I'm supposed to take to my grave because I'm so trustworthy and everyone knows I'm such a good friend... I forgot how to be me back then and it took me years and years to find me again. A decade ago, i fell ill to a severe chronic pain disorder, coupled with hypermobility that caused so many injuries (Plus I'm clumsy as f*ck lol) that i don't exist without pain. So all my carefully fought and won pieces of myself and my mental health came crumbling and falling all around me. I can't ever go back to being that me and that's hard. It's one of the things that's taken me a decade to grieve and finally begin to accept. So now, I'm a broken 50 year old mom (with a VERY patient bf and son), who is trying to discover not only _how_ to be Me, but _who_ i can be... if anything more than a burden is possible Jesus, sorry that sounded so "wah poor me" lol. I just wanted to show how much this song hits me in the gut. Great reaction! Keep it up (and happy American Thanksgiving🦃🍗)
Hey it's Bill from the video. I'm glad you're still here. Keep fighting the good fight. Life can be overwhelming but people do care. I've had some terrible setbacks. I have POTS it's aweful I used to be like a super hero now I'm losing my memory and can't function on a daily basis and I have also known loss. It's aweful the things people deal with. Thanks for watching and keep kicking ass out there. Thank u for sharing as well. It's hard cause I know it feels like you are burdening people (at least I do) but believe you are not. Keep reaching out.
@z-manneversleeps900 thank you so much for responding so thoughtfully. I am surprised that my comment was readable lol Meds sometimes fog up the works, and the brain stops doing the thinky thing. Lol I know that being in that awful dark place is so helpless, and there's no way out that you can see. I know that ending things seems so selfish, and it is, but not in a way that they can help. It's such an alone place to be that you literally _can't_ think of anyone else. That's why I always say, reach out to your friends. The ones that go quiet or change drastically. The caretakers and the funny ones... quite often we are hiding our own pain with jokes or caring or both. Sometimes just remembering that there's someone who cares can light a candle in all that darkness and give them more chance of seeing another way. I'm a burden, I know I am. My bf had to cut up my dinner for me yesterday because my left hand doesn't work properly (damage buildup from hypermobility, plus arthritis, plus nonunited scaphoid fracture causing vascular necrosis, ligament tear and carpal tunnel impingement. And that's just my left freaking hand!!) He doesn't complain, usually, unless I'm being particularly whiny (it happens, bad days suck). I feel like I'm becoming more dead weight every day. I'm so sorry what you're going through, but I'm glad you're here. Just know that you are here for a reason. Probably lots more than one. One thing, even though I'm not important, I needed to hear your kind words. Thank you Please take care of you and, remember, you can't pour from an empty cup. So fill your cup from time to time. Hang in there and, hey, if you ever need a non-judgmental, sympathetic ear, I'm around. Take care and I hope that you have a wonderful weekend 😊 🌻💜🌻
"I don't feel safe in my bed voices in my head talking to the dead. Fear and Sin follow me over the valleys and hills below; back home. It suffocates me...Wish I could get out of this tomb (Joe's own mind)" Ren wrote this from Joe's perspective in my opinion... You get to the end of the song and as Ren does so often he then breaks the 4th wall and says, "When HE gave up the fight, the decision he made stayed with me for the rest of my life. I miss you so." My suggestion, Ren - Seven Sins.
I've listened to it quite a few times now and I think Ren is speaking about both himself and Joe. We know Ren is very clever with double meanings, and I feel like a lot of this song could be describing his own grief or Joe's mental health. "I've been talking to the dead" could be a reference to something Joe experience, or Ren talking to Joe. "Do sad eyes blind me" could be a reference to Joe's depression, or Ren's sadness of losing his friend. I think this is an intentional clever use of language to have the song represent both of them.
I have heard this at least 30 times now. I have had people make this argument. I cannot say you are wrong, as you said Ren is very clever. I just speak my truth until I hear differently from Ren or a very informed person that has heard it from Ren somewhere. Godspeed
Welcome back to the rabbit hole! I don’t know how you refrain from checking out more Ren for a week at a time 😅 Please please please check out Crutch feat. Bibi next. One of my favourite Ren songs and it doesn’t get nearly the attention it deserves. It is a stunning piece of pure emotion written before Ren was finally correctly diagnosed.
Its pretty hard not to listen to more of these artists we are doing. We enjoy making these videos though so it's worth it in the end. It gives us something to look forward to.
Awesome content great work. #REN sings live in the streets with Sam Tompkins “Man’s World” and with his old band The BigPush singing live “I shot the sheriff mashup” followed directly by “War Pigs 🐷” by Black Sabbath. You will see him flow in the music live in the streets.
There's another youtube video of Ren a & Chinchilla performing onstage that is more casual in its overall effect . ... so they've had some practice ... But I believe it was just a magic moment here ... THIS bridge they are performing on : ( The Menei suspension bridge that connects wales to the island of Anglesey ) / is the location for this video It was the bridge Ren's late friend JOE made that " decision late in the night " ... So , to me it's a sacred ritual performance ...
Wow! Great reaction fellas. If you’d like to hear a more lighthearted performance there is a great video of Ren and Chinchilla busking in the streets of Brighton. One Dance/ Drunk in love ( Drake/ Beyoncé cover) Thanks again
This song was my introduction to Ren, so it will always be special for me ♥ they're standing on the bridge where Joe jumped from😢 i recommend the song Humble by Ren with Eden
I love them together! Please check out Chinchilla’s solo stuff. Fingers Live for Hunger TV, Little Girl Gone (official video), and Elements among others. Great reaction guys! ☮️❤️😎
Rens sing titled adds context, thr last verse written a long time after the main song, following an interview with Knox Hill is "difficult". . Also ... Looks likevyou haven't reacted to "Hi Ren"? . Many consider it to be his "signature piece", i think it has saved lives. Long, but its a hard hitter for many. (Note.... No copyright strines on Ren songs)
Loved you're reaction but you have to hear Ren and Eden Nash with Humble and Ocean both official lyric videos they are great and I don't know who to pick for best singer cause both ladies are fire. ❤❤❤
Hi guys, just recently found your channel, very much enjoying your reactions and working my way through your Ren playlist. These two are just stunning together. There are a couple of live busking videos floating around, Ren convinced Chinchilla to join him, it was a first time busking for her. Not sure if you've heard, they are working on a couple of new tracks together as we speak (might be close to finishing) and we are all eagerly awaiting those to drop. Looking to forward to following you on your Ren journey, new sub. 👍
Another masterpiece composition from Ren! :) Btw, if people have been talking about a song that's about Ren's best friend ending his life, they're usually talking about either 'Suicide' or a live recording he did called 'For Joe'. Sometimes they're referring to 'Frecled Angels', the title track from his first album. If you haven't heard any of those, they're all worth a listen! Suicide and For Joe are both quite dark but beautiful. For Joe manages to be uplifting at the same time. This track is about how Joe's suicide affected him, especially as it occurred at a time when his physical and mental health were collapsing. However, it's more ambiguous, until the ending lines , than those other songs. Joe is referenced more directly in them, which is why I think they may have been talking about one of them instead. :)
Ren just works with some incredible people, him and Chinchilla are amazing, check out their busking sessions they’re great. Sexual healing One dance/ drunk in love 🖤
You ARE MISSING OUT Chinchilla is a badass Elements Fingers live Lockdown getdown Little girl gone requiem Little girl gone Know NO Soooooo many great tracks Latest is Cut you Off
His friend Joe jumped off a bridge. Ren was running as fast as he could to the bridge, but was about five minutes too late. He has other songs dedicated to Joe as well. You should listen to Suic1d and For Joe.
That song is about the pain of loosing Joe, he didn't know how to get true life. He got Suic*de song that talk about how he often thaught of doing the same but how it felt loosing Joe ( a 2 part same song) first on the subject was Freckled Angel, just talking who Joe was, and their is the last one, the complet greif circle with For Joe. All of them deserve to be listend to, but hey put some cool one in between 🙂
Please 🙏 do more reactions to Ren. Try power. Also Chinchilla is currently on the voice UK Maybe For Joe... definitely money game pt 1 to 3.. and sick boi Lol just everything 😂😂😂
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That's live music. This is not music anymore. This is art.
Ren has referred to Chinchilla as his musical sibling. They are absolute perfection together! Great reaction. ❤
I lost myself as a teenager. Hanged myself at 18 and if the rope hadn't snapped none of the joys, like my young adult son, would have ever happened. Plus, my parents would have been forced to discover horror.
Having nearly lost my son in 2021 at 26 years old, to leukemia, the terror and gut punching pain that i might truly lose my world really made me feel more guilty about nearly leaving my parents that pain.
Luckily, he is 2 years in remission and will turn 29 on Sunday!
I've also lost several to their own hands and that pain is a specially unhealing wound that can fester.
That description in the song is so spot on for depression and suicidal ideation. The imagery it evokes. Being trapped in myself, unable to leave my bruised, broken body with dark secrets in my floors that others have told me, and then i lost the people to their own hand or they left or passed leaving me with this life-changing secrets that I'm supposed to take to my grave because I'm so trustworthy and everyone knows I'm such a good friend...
I forgot how to be me back then and it took me years and years to find me again.
A decade ago, i fell ill to a severe chronic pain disorder, coupled with hypermobility that caused so many injuries (Plus I'm clumsy as f*ck lol) that i don't exist without pain. So all my carefully fought and won pieces of myself and my mental health came crumbling and falling all around me.
I can't ever go back to being that me and that's hard. It's one of the things that's taken me a decade to grieve and finally begin to accept.
So now, I'm a broken 50 year old mom (with a VERY patient bf and son), who is trying to discover not only _how_ to be Me, but _who_ i can be... if anything more than a burden is possible
Jesus, sorry that sounded so "wah poor me" lol.
I just wanted to show how much this song hits me in the gut.
Great reaction!
Keep it up (and happy American Thanksgiving🦃🍗)
Hey it's Bill from the video. I'm glad you're still here. Keep fighting the good fight. Life can be overwhelming but people do care. I've had some terrible setbacks. I have POTS it's aweful I used to be like a super hero now I'm losing my memory and can't function on a daily basis and I have also known loss. It's aweful the things people deal with. Thanks for watching and keep kicking ass out there. Thank u for sharing as well. It's hard cause I know it feels like you are burdening people (at least I do) but believe you are not. Keep reaching out.
@z-manneversleeps900 thank you so much for responding so thoughtfully. I am surprised that my comment was readable lol Meds sometimes fog up the works, and the brain stops doing the thinky thing. Lol
I know that being in that awful dark place is so helpless, and there's no way out that you can see. I know that ending things seems so selfish, and it is, but not in a way that they can help. It's such an alone place to be that you literally _can't_ think of anyone else.
That's why I always say, reach out to your friends. The ones that go quiet or change drastically. The caretakers and the funny ones... quite often we are hiding our own pain with jokes or caring or both. Sometimes just remembering that there's someone who cares can light a candle in all that darkness and give them more chance of seeing another way.
I'm a burden, I know I am. My bf had to cut up my dinner for me yesterday because my left hand doesn't work properly (damage buildup from hypermobility, plus arthritis, plus nonunited scaphoid fracture causing vascular necrosis, ligament tear and carpal tunnel impingement. And that's just my left freaking hand!!)
He doesn't complain, usually, unless I'm being particularly whiny (it happens, bad days suck).
I feel like I'm becoming more dead weight every day.
I'm so sorry what you're going through, but I'm glad you're here. Just know that you are here for a reason. Probably lots more than one.
One thing, even though I'm not important, I needed to hear your kind words. Thank you
Please take care of you and, remember, you can't pour from an empty cup. So fill your cup from time to time. Hang in there and, hey, if you ever need a non-judgmental, sympathetic ear, I'm around.
Take care and I hope that you have a wonderful weekend 😊
🌻💜🌻
@@NixyRose72 I totally understand.
Chinchilla "Fingers" live. AMAZING!
Great reaction video lads..... Thank you - Ren & Bibi - Crutch
Thank you great reaction.I get this song to be about how grief affects you how it shades your vision and follows you everywhere you go😢
This song gets to my bones.
Watch "Crutch". That will grind your bones to powder.
@rogerstarkey5390 iv watched it mate, there's something about the pitch or frequency of their voices in this one that I genuinely feel in my bones.
And one more for the algorithm. 🎉
"I don't feel safe in my bed voices in my head talking to the dead. Fear and Sin follow me over the valleys and hills below; back home. It suffocates me...Wish I could get out of this tomb (Joe's own mind)" Ren wrote this from Joe's perspective in my opinion... You get to the end of the song and as Ren does so often he then breaks the 4th wall and says, "When HE gave up the fight, the decision he made stayed with me for the rest of my life. I miss you so."
My suggestion, Ren - Seven Sins.
Oh yes - Seven Sins is so great 👍🔥👈
Btw new sub from me, greetings from Germany 🙋♀️🤝
+1 for Seven Sins
I've listened to it quite a few times now and I think Ren is speaking about both himself and Joe. We know Ren is very clever with double meanings, and I feel like a lot of this song could be describing his own grief or Joe's mental health. "I've been talking to the dead" could be a reference to something Joe experience, or Ren talking to Joe. "Do sad eyes blind me" could be a reference to Joe's depression, or Ren's sadness of losing his friend. I think this is an intentional clever use of language to have the song represent both of them.
I have heard this at least 30 times now. I have had people make this argument. I cannot say you are wrong, as you said Ren is very clever. I just speak my truth until I hear differently from Ren or a very informed person that has heard it from Ren somewhere. Godspeed
Hauntingly beautiful. Doesn’t get any better than that.
you could always try giving the song *HUMBLE* a go its Ren X Eden Nash personally i think its a great song and she has a great voice also....
They are perfection together, a perfect live Chinchilla, on a TV show in UK I believe, "Fingers", a MUST see.
She’s on The Voice UK now ❤
Can not wait to see this one... Definitely top 5 favorites of all Ren songs.
Welcome back to the rabbit hole! I don’t know how you refrain from checking out more Ren for a week at a time 😅
Please please please check out Crutch feat. Bibi next. One of my favourite Ren songs and it doesn’t get nearly the attention it deserves. It is a stunning piece of pure emotion written before Ren was finally correctly diagnosed.
Its pretty hard not to listen to more of these artists we are doing. We enjoy making these videos though so it's worth it in the end. It gives us something to look forward to.
Great duets with ren and sam Tompkins. And ren ren and eden nash
Goosebumps. every. single. time.
Great job guys and thanks for your continuous vulnerability and openness. You are a great to watch.
Our pleasure!
Awesome content great work. #REN sings live in the streets with Sam Tompkins “Man’s World” and with his old band The BigPush singing live “I shot the sheriff mashup” followed directly by “War Pigs 🐷” by Black Sabbath. You will see him flow in the music live in the streets.
We did war pigs! Check it out!
So raw and powerful. So much more real than most music out there. Thanks for the reaction 😊
My favourite song of the last decade, just a stunning example of excellence . Fingers Live by Chinchilla is simply out of this world.
They are so awesome together aren’t they? They also did a busking set together also awesome ❤
Chills every time❤
There's another youtube video of Ren a & Chinchilla performing onstage
that is more casual in its overall effect .
... so they've had some practice ...
But I believe it was just a magic moment here ...
THIS bridge they are performing on :
( The Menei suspension bridge that connects wales to the island of Anglesey )
/ is the location for this video
It was the bridge Ren's late friend JOE made that " decision late in the night " ...
So , to me it's a sacred ritual performance ...
Try Chinchilla on her own! Live version of Fingers.
Basically anything from a yone Ren works with.
He's a "great artist filter"
Yes! Second that! 🖤
Yes please!!!!
Wow! Great reaction fellas. If you’d like to hear a more lighthearted performance there is a great video of Ren and Chinchilla busking in the streets of Brighton. One Dance/ Drunk in love ( Drake/ Beyoncé cover) Thanks again
Guys check out Ren in the studio with Liv Sangster, another talented lady on guitar and vocals. I’m in Love is a great one too start.
We can see you love them, therefore we love you. And we love Ren. Everything should be about love. What else? ❤
This was such an amazing reaction ❤ thank you guys ❤
This song was my introduction to Ren, so it will always be special for me ♥ they're standing on the bridge where Joe jumped from😢 i recommend the song Humble by Ren with Eden
Great reaction 👏 Chinchilla has just appeared on the voice UK, can you believe. I think it was filmed last year though.
Love the reaction and shout out to that Sherlock shirt! ❤
Yes! Thank you
I love them together! Please check out Chinchilla’s solo stuff. Fingers Live for Hunger TV, Little Girl Gone (official video), and Elements among others. Great reaction guys! ☮️❤️😎
Rens sing titled adds context, thr last verse written a long time after the main song, following an interview with Knox Hill is "difficult".
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Also ... Looks likevyou haven't reacted to "Hi Ren"?
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Many consider it to be his "signature piece", i think it has saved lives.
Long, but its a hard hitter for many.
(Note.... No copyright strines on Ren songs)
We have check in out it should be under our ren reactions
Oh, guys, it's so much more than Ren not knowing. The guys story reaches mythical levels.
Loved you're reaction but you have to hear Ren and Eden Nash with Humble and Ocean both official lyric videos they are great and I don't know who to pick for best singer cause both ladies are fire. ❤❤❤
This gives me goosebumps everytime 😊❤
Fingers live by chinchilla. The hungertv version. Then also Ren & Chinchilla cover sexual healing.
Wait till you see Ren & Liv Sangster live studio session. Phenomenal.
thank you i always look forward to Rens day sending big love from the UK ❤❤
Hola os sigo desde España, empece a veros por Dimash, no se si conoceis un grupo coreano que se llama Forestella
I like chalk outlines more personally but both are amazing
That's my favorite duet❤
Great reaction guys ❤
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There's nothing I can say about these two that hasn't been said but I Love your shirt!
And Ren is also playing guitar 😳
Check out REN and Chinchilla busking
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AMAZING REACTION!! I really like you guys and your reactions;
Hi guys, just recently found your channel, very much enjoying your reactions and working my way through your Ren playlist. These two are just stunning together. There are a couple of live busking videos floating around, Ren convinced Chinchilla to join him, it was a first time busking for her. Not sure if you've heard, they are working on a couple of new tracks together as we speak (might be close to finishing) and we are all eagerly awaiting those to drop. Looking to forward to following you on your Ren journey, new sub. 👍
Thanks, welcome aboard!
Another masterpiece composition from Ren! :)
Btw, if people have been talking about a song that's about Ren's best friend ending his life, they're usually talking about either 'Suicide' or a live recording he did called 'For Joe'. Sometimes they're referring to 'Frecled Angels', the title track from his first album. If you haven't heard any of those, they're all worth a listen! Suicide and For Joe are both quite dark but beautiful. For Joe manages to be uplifting at the same time.
This track is about how Joe's suicide affected him, especially as it occurred at a time when his physical and mental health were collapsing. However, it's more ambiguous, until the ending lines , than those other songs. Joe is referenced more directly in them, which is why I think they may have been talking about one of them instead. :)
Have you reacted to Ren & Chinchilla live Busking session in Brighton. Their 1st one together.?
Ren just works with some incredible people, him and Chinchilla are amazing, check out their busking sessions they’re great.
Sexual healing
One dance/ drunk in love 🖤
❤❤❤
You ARE MISSING OUT
Chinchilla is a badass
Elements
Fingers live
Lockdown getdown
Little girl gone requiem
Little girl gone
Know NO
Soooooo many great tracks
Latest is Cut you Off
His friend Joe jumped off a bridge. Ren was running as fast as he could to the bridge, but was about five minutes too late. He has other songs dedicated to Joe as well. You should listen to Suic1d and For Joe.
I believe this was filmed from the bridge that Joe jumped from...
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Another banger. Sad as it is. 🙏❤️
I think ren said that it was around 10 take and this was the one they chose
Check out Su!cide by Ren. Chinchilla: Little Girl Gone is a good one.
That song is about the pain of loosing Joe, he didn't know how to get true life. He got Suic*de song that talk about how he often thaught of doing the same but how it felt loosing Joe ( a 2 part same song) first on the subject was Freckled Angel, just talking who Joe was, and their is the last one, the complet greif circle with For Joe. All of them deserve to be listend to, but hey put some cool one in between 🙂
Check Crutch ft Bibi
Please 🙏 do more reactions to Ren. Try power.
Also Chinchilla is currently on the voice UK
Maybe For Joe... definitely money game pt 1 to 3.. and sick boi
Lol just everything 😂😂😂
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