When you listen to it back knowing how it ends, it all takes on new meaning. It is about his friend, but it could also be about him. "I've been talking to the dead" could either be a representation of his friend's mental health struggles, or it could be Ren talking to his lost friend. "There are bruises on the walls" could be from his friend's perspective, but it could also be the trauma experienced by loved ones. "My sins surround me" could be from his friend's perspective, but it could also be personal guilt at not being able to stop his friend from doing that - survivor's guilt. I like to think it's intentionally written from both perspectives, because we all know Ren is extremely clever in his writing and it's definitely something he would do. It's very subtle, but it's so damn clever. Either way it's an absolutely beautiful and tragic song.
This song is about a friend who committed suicide at a young age which has always affected Ren deeply. Much love from Scotland 🏴 Keep up the great work. If you want to see more of the two of them, check out their street performance of One Dance/Drunk in Love - it’s pretty special too
I'm no expert on this guy as I've only just discovered him, but it seems his genius and talent soars higher with the help of a brilliant team of people around him from his cinematographer to the other musicians and all those that must help in the videos. Fuck Sony!
Lol its just ren his buddy Sam who does the filming and his girlfriend helps as well. But you have to give ren credit in finding chinchilla and realizing she would be an amazing duet partner
You need to see when he is out busking on the streets. I have to videoas for you. The first is with a friend and the second his band The Big Push. "Ren & Sam Tompkins - Earned it /Mans World / Falling" and "The Big Push - Watch Out (live busking)".
Another enjoyable reaction. I read somewhere that Ren's best friend committed suicide. Ren even alluded to it in one of his songs, stating that he lost his best friend before he was 25. Someone else stated that two of Ren's friends have committed suicide. The pain of this loss is evident in a few of his songs, "Freckled Angels" being one example. As for "Chalk Outlines," it is still my favorite song, in part because I can very much relate to it due to my own daily struggles. Although, losing your best friend to suicide is also something I experienced when I was 19 y/o (almost 38 years ago). I hope you will continue to dive into Ren's catalog. God bless.
Same interpretation. I also interpret the first part of the song until Ren's final verse to be his friend in the lead up to this decision. The cry for got would then be a final desperate prayer and cry for help to which he did not hear an answer. Depression cuts you off from the divine, doesn't it? Even if it is still there, it cannot be felt. I love the way the song gives voice to both, the one giving up and the ones who have to live with the consequences.
Yes it’s his childhood friend Joe you need to react to “For Joe” live performance where he’s playing the piano up on the hill over Calgary 🇨🇦 at night There’s also a REN AI video called “Su!cide” Peace and love from Australia mate
Between this and Chalk Outlines, my tears will always shed. It's also really grown on me how animated Chinchilla is on camera, and honestly her in both this and Chalk Outlines I feel like she could be best described as the source of light in a picture to Ren being the object of the picture.
The pain of losing a friend is something that never goes away. It’s been years now and I still cry at a simple thought of him. I still have videos on my phone of him just so I can hear his voice sometimes. This song hits a spot in my soul very few things can touch. It actually gave me the courage to post a song I wrote called Lessons. I write to help with my own issues and wasn’t planning on ever showing it to anyone but if I can touch a single person the way this song touches me, why wouldn’t I put it out there? Music can be so powerful and it’s a shame to think about how many masterpieces are out there sitting on someone’s computer never to be heard by anyone. I think Ren will inspire a huge wave of new artists to come out of hiding and finally share their words with the people!
@@TrevandErin no problem man, i enjoy watching your reactions. Link > ruclips.net/video/g2hRiKhh6_8/видео.html Feel free to make a reaction if ya want, although not necessary. There’s a bit of back story in the description as well. Thanks for listening ❤️ it’s a very important song for me.
How many times have you listened to it again? An not mad about your opinion. I agree she takes the song to another level. When you listen to the other version of this the vocals are strings ❤️
Lovely reaction as always! Your understanding and dissection is fullfilling to watch. The reveal at the end packs - to me at least - a similar punch as in Violet's tale ... I discovered Chinchilla through Ren and I really start digging her solo stuff as well, specially Elements and Fingers (live). Worth checking out even if it may not be your cup of tea, she is different and gutsy...
This one is so haunting and I love the voices resonating that - and if it is someone he knows, which I think it is, then it's ghostly isn;t it? It's meant to sound haunting - love it.
@@TrevandErin He played this song in his bedroom initially (It's on RUclips) and breaks down crying before the end and shows a picture of his friend. Very touching.
Nice reaction, yes this song was about one of Ren's friends commit suicide, jumped from a bridge similar to the one they are recording their performance. Chinchilla's themes on her songs are a bit different than Ren's, but her collaborations with Ren is a tip of her iceberg from a stand point of her vocal range and varieties she can perform. She is talented AF. I would really enjoy to watch you reacting to one of her solo live performances like "Vero Presents: Chinchilla - Fingers (live) for Hunger TV".
Great Rxn- !! Keep grinding Brother! Love to see you react to Tom MacDonald… another creative artist who uses his platform in a positive way to reach people coming through what he went through drug addiction and alcoholism and mental illness!
I think Ren lost himself without his friend. Hence "I forgot how to be me." BTW his friend was talking about jumping off a bridge and then disappeared late that night. They assume he did jump. His body was never found.
No doubt, Chinchilla is amazing, but re-listen with your focus on Ren when they are singing together. It hits me viscerally everytime. Mind shattering talent!
@@TrevandErin plz check the video, its a live peformance of all 3 tracks, in his hometown, with real fucking fans, and you can see it from any angle possble... didnnt see anyone react to it yet, but i made it my goal lol ;)
Trev- Love your reaction videos. Chinchilla clearly has a phenomenal voice like Ren! He adapts beautifully and effortlessly with his collaborations over the years. Check out Freckled Angels a song Ren wrote for his best friend he lost. Love his work with Liv Sangster, The Big Push, Sam Tompson and Trick the Fox. I cannot believe how versatile Ren is and he keeps good company! I have been happily lost, never to be found, down the Ren Rabbit hole! ❤️
Another great reaction as always sir 😊 One day you should do some My Chemical Romance (MCR) reactions. Helena is one of my faves & as morbid as it sounds I have request for that song to play when I am laid to rest. With my heart issues & autoimmune disease you don't really get the long life a lot dream of but I look forward to a beautiful afterlife. By the way I wrote another poem, it is one I wrote about my husband.😊
@@TrevandErin I plan on being here for as long as the good Lord allows. Sadly my family was cursed with awful genetics. I am 42 now & already survived a major heart attack (doctor called it a widow maker since people typically don't survive those) at 37. Lost an uncle who had a widow maker heart attack & died at 33. Lost my mom at 59 & lost a few more due to the same thing. I'm not giving up on life, I just try to be realistic. But God is a Mighty God & He can allow me to live well into my 90's. Sorry, my comments are so lengthy at times...I am a talker & tend to share things people don't care to hear/read. My husband said I could talk the ears off of corn 😂 I just can't help myself 😁
Chinchilla is fantastic but she's not stealing the show. It's Ren's song, Ren's arrangement and he's providing the musical accompaniment, on guitar. His singing is incredible and he's deliberately singing in harmony for much of the song. Definitely not putting Chinchilla down, she's incredible, but if you think this performance is all about her, you're not watching and listening to the same performance. :)
Ren has a son called "dear god", where he explores his faith and I think it would be interesting to see your take on it specifically from a religious perspective. Preaching may not always be appreciated, but i think your insight into the specific topic is a unique selling point.
Trev, perceptive, full marks , no need to say anymore on your take on religion or mine, just hat's off to you for your your point view. For Bewilderboy; we no doubt have 'that' hair in the morning, I'm sure and we deal with it accordingly, cap tipped towards you brother Celt.
Below is Ren's beautiful song dedicated to his best friend Joe Hughes who went missing on 27th December 2010. It is believed he jumped off a bridge but his body has never been found unfortunately. In this video you can see photos of Joe and a young Ren with other friends remembering the good times! ruclips.net/video/gUWK331b8T4/видео.html
Thank you so much for this reaction, had such a nice time watching it 💓the support means so much 🫶🫶
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment! It means a lot. You’re a beast 💪
I found you again. Been a few days.
You're amazing Chinchilla 🖤🖤🖤
You both are brilliant on this song. Thank you!!
You're such a rock star; absolutely crushing it on this. Can't wait to see more of your stuff!
Ren is giving chinchilla the freedom and space to be her own artist here, but I think that was also true in the last half of chalk outlines.
True
When you listen to it back knowing how it ends, it all takes on new meaning. It is about his friend, but it could also be about him.
"I've been talking to the dead" could either be a representation of his friend's mental health struggles, or it could be Ren talking to his lost friend.
"There are bruises on the walls" could be from his friend's perspective, but it could also be the trauma experienced by loved ones.
"My sins surround me" could be from his friend's perspective, but it could also be personal guilt at not being able to stop his friend from doing that - survivor's guilt.
I like to think it's intentionally written from both perspectives, because we all know Ren is extremely clever in his writing and it's definitely something he would do. It's very subtle, but it's so damn clever.
Either way it's an absolutely beautiful and tragic song.
You’re 100% right.
This song is about a friend who committed suicide at a young age which has always affected Ren deeply.
Much love from Scotland 🏴 Keep up the great work. If you want to see more of the two of them, check out their street performance of One Dance/Drunk in Love - it’s pretty special too
I appreciate it. I will!
What also deeply affected Ren was his friends body has never been found after he jumped off the bridge.
Oh wow
@@TrevandErin it happened 10 years ago btw
I'm no expert on this guy as I've only just discovered him, but it seems his genius and talent soars higher with the help of a brilliant team of people around him from his cinematographer to the other musicians and all those that must help in the videos. Fuck Sony!
You’re right
Lol its just ren his buddy Sam who does the filming and his girlfriend helps as well. But you have to give ren credit in finding chinchilla and realizing she would be an amazing duet partner
Holy smokes 😮 that was beautiful ❤ I love Chinchilla and Ren together.
Me too
You need to see when he is out busking on the streets. I have to videoas for you. The first is with a friend and the second his band The Big Push. "Ren & Sam Tompkins - Earned it /Mans World / Falling" and "The Big Push - Watch Out (live busking)".
I will 100% check those out. I definitely gotta see his busking and his band
You got this Trev...
Ren is the perfect compliment
to the NF journey
thanx4 the time you've spent...
Your morning wake ups are heaven sent.... ;)
I appreciate ya George
Another enjoyable reaction. I read somewhere that Ren's best friend committed suicide. Ren even alluded to it in one of his songs, stating that he lost his best friend before he was 25. Someone else stated that two of Ren's friends have committed suicide. The pain of this loss is evident in a few of his songs, "Freckled Angels" being one example. As for "Chalk Outlines," it is still my favorite song, in part because I can very much relate to it due to my own daily struggles. Although, losing your best friend to suicide is also something I experienced when I was 19 y/o (almost 38 years ago).
I hope you will continue to dive into Ren's catalog. God bless.
I definitely will dive more into rens music. I appreciate you!
Freckled angels is a beautiful song. Definitely worth checking out.
Hauntingly beautiful Gooseflesh everytime ❤️ happy Valentine's day ❤️
Happy Valentine’s Day!
Fucking hell…stop doing it to me Ren! You and Chinchilla smash this one out of the park. Much love bro…
😂
RIP Joe Hughes. ❤
"Hallelujah!" Indeed 💯🎵🙏
Indeed!
If you look at 1:48 you can see the lights in the background form a heart, its really sad but beautiful at the same time 😢❤
Same interpretation. I also interpret the first part of the song until Ren's final verse to be his friend in the lead up to this decision. The cry for got would then be a final desperate prayer and cry for help to which he did not hear an answer. Depression cuts you off from the divine, doesn't it? Even if it is still there, it cannot be felt. I love the way the song gives voice to both, the one giving up and the ones who have to live with the consequences.
Yeah it’s amazingly well written
Yes it’s his childhood friend Joe you need to react to “For Joe” live performance where he’s playing the piano up on the hill over Calgary 🇨🇦 at night
There’s also a REN AI video called “Su!cide”
Peace and love from Australia mate
His Freckled Angels song explains the suicide. Chinchilla follows Ren in Chalk Outlines because she represents his echo.
Oh, that gives a great new perspective to the song!
Ahhh I’ll check that one out
I found this gem, Ren - Ocean ft. Eden Nash , PLEASE react to it SOON, lol.
Between this and Chalk Outlines, my tears will always shed. It's also really grown on me how animated Chinchilla is on camera, and honestly her in both this and Chalk Outlines I feel like she could be best described as the source of light in a picture to Ren being the object of the picture.
Oh wow that’s an awesome description
incredible, gives me goosebumbs (I also can feel with that topic a lot)
Yeah this one is competing with the hunger as my favorite
We are here for ren. Not your hair lol. We are here to watch you ride this rollercoaster of emotions
The pain of losing a friend is something that never goes away. It’s been years now and I still cry at a simple thought of him. I still have videos on my phone of him just so I can hear his voice sometimes. This song hits a spot in my soul very few things can touch. It actually gave me the courage to post a song I wrote called Lessons. I write to help with my own issues and wasn’t planning on ever showing it to anyone but if I can touch a single person the way this song touches me, why wouldn’t I put it out there? Music can be so powerful and it’s a shame to think about how many masterpieces are out there sitting on someone’s computer never to be heard by anyone. I think Ren will inspire a huge wave of new artists to come out of hiding and finally share their words with the people!
That’s awesome! I seen the donation I greatly appreciate it! Can you link the song so I can give it a listen?
@@TrevandErin no problem man, i enjoy watching your reactions.
Link > ruclips.net/video/g2hRiKhh6_8/видео.html
Feel free to make a reaction if ya want, although not necessary. There’s a bit of back story in the description as well. Thanks for listening ❤️ it’s a very important song for me.
Makes the pain even worse when they never laid him to rest cause his body was never found
Have to check out their street covers
I will!
❤️❤️ #ren ❤️❤️
Thank you.
Chinchilla did definitely steal the show, and I wish I looked as rough as you when I first got out of bed
How many times have you listened to it again? An not mad about your opinion. I agree she takes the song to another level. When you listen to the other version of this the vocals are strings ❤️
Atleast 3 times after recording lol
Lovely reaction as always! Your understanding and dissection is fullfilling to watch. The reveal at the end packs - to me at least - a similar punch as in Violet's tale ... I discovered Chinchilla through Ren and I really start digging her solo stuff as well, specially Elements and Fingers (live). Worth checking out even if it may not be your cup of tea, she is different and gutsy...
You got it on point actually. The first part spoke to how his friend felt. The last part was how it continues to affect him.
This one is so haunting and I love the voices resonating that - and if it is someone he knows, which I think it is, then it's ghostly isn;t it? It's meant to sound haunting - love it.
It is very haunting
It's for his friend who committed suicide at 19. They never found his body
This song is about Ren's friend who passed away from suicide
Crazy.
@@TrevandErin He played this song in his bedroom initially (It's on RUclips) and breaks down crying before the end and shows a picture of his friend. Very touching.
Great reaction dude ✌️💙🏴
Thank you! I appreciate you watching
This song breaks my heart mostly because I know how broken REN’s heart was and still is. I have seen him discuss this song and he’s in tears.
He wrote this about his friend who committed suicide.
🥺
Nice reaction, yes this song was about one of Ren's friends commit suicide, jumped from a bridge similar to the one they are recording their performance.
Chinchilla's themes on her songs are a bit different than Ren's, but her collaborations with Ren is a tip of her iceberg from a stand point of her vocal range and varieties she can perform. She is talented AF. I would really enjoy to watch you reacting to one of her solo live performances like "Vero Presents: Chinchilla - Fingers (live) for Hunger TV".
You’re right. Thank yoh
Chinchilla is such a powerhouse. I seriously cannot believe she isn't so much bigger than she is. She really has it all.
Great Rxn- !! Keep grinding Brother! Love to see you react to Tom MacDonald… another creative artist who uses his platform in a positive way to reach people coming through what he went through drug addiction and alcoholism and mental illness!
I’ve listened to a ton of Tom so far
💗💗💗
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I think Ren lost himself without his friend. Hence "I forgot how to be me." BTW his friend was talking about jumping off a bridge and then disappeared late that night. They assume he did jump. His body was never found.
If you like groove man, you’ve got to check out The Big Push- I shot the Sheriff rendition while they were out busking! Freaking phenomenal
Sounds awesome. Been getting a lot of suggestions for that one too I’ll 100% check it out
@@TrevandErin yeah there’s a few. There’s one in particular that’s in the day time, that imo is the best one they’ve done.
They are fantastic together!
No doubt, Chinchilla is amazing, but re-listen with your focus on Ren when they are singing together. It hits me viscerally everytime. Mind shattering talent!
Okay I will!
Preach, brother
🤠
Yeah, it hits harder when you realize that this song was written for his friend who completed suicide.
Yeah after I found that out it does
That last sentence fits well with losing his friend and it stays with Ren for life. Also, they may be standing on a bridge…
I didn’t even think about the scenery 🤯
This song was about his friend committing suicide. Sometimes I think it is hard for him to sing. Listen to it again.
great reaction man, keep up the great work, really pushing to this one bein reacted to : /// Ren - The Tale of Jenny and Screech (360 Live) ///
I have heard the tale of Jenny and screech but I don’t think it was the 360 live version
@@TrevandErin plz check the video, its a live peformance of all 3 tracks, in his hometown, with real fucking fans, and you can see it from any angle possble...
didnnt see anyone react to it yet, but i made it my goal lol ;)
We are one of two. Both male & Female, one of Two One under God .
☝️
Ren is so generous he stays under her via als whenever they push it he follows her , so many artists compete .
Trev- Love your reaction videos. Chinchilla clearly has a phenomenal voice like Ren! He adapts beautifully and effortlessly with his collaborations over the years. Check out Freckled Angels a song Ren wrote for his best friend he lost. Love his work with Liv Sangster, The Big Push, Sam Tompson and Trick the Fox. I cannot believe how versatile Ren is and he keeps good company! I have been happily lost, never to be found, down the Ren Rabbit hole! ❤️
I appreciate the kind words. Chinchilla is awesome
this song for joe, too. kathleen
❤️❤️❤️
❤️❤️❤️
Listen to freckled angels live. About hiz best friend
I will check it out 100%
My thought is the fear baptizing him means he wakes up with sweat on his brow.
That’s a good one
Another great reaction as always sir 😊
One day you should do some My Chemical Romance (MCR) reactions. Helena is one of my faves & as morbid as it sounds I have request for that song to play when I am laid to rest. With my heart issues & autoimmune disease you don't really get the long life a lot dream of but I look forward to a beautiful afterlife. By the way I wrote another poem, it is one I wrote about my husband.😊
Oh nice I’m glad you wrote one! Don’t say all that though you’ll be here for a while
@@TrevandErin I plan on being here for as long as the good Lord allows. Sadly my family was cursed with awful genetics. I am 42 now & already survived a major heart attack (doctor called it a widow maker since people typically don't survive those) at 37. Lost an uncle who had a widow maker heart attack & died at 33. Lost my mom at 59 & lost a few more due to the same thing. I'm not giving up on life, I just try to be realistic. But God is a Mighty God & He can allow me to live well into my 90's. Sorry, my comments are so lengthy at times...I am a talker & tend to share things people don't care to hear/read. My husband said I could talk the ears off of corn 😂 I just can't help myself 😁
How about Harry Styles? Maybe She or Matilda?
Don’t worry about your hair lol you are still cute!
😁 I appreciate it.
Chinchilla is fantastic but she's not stealing the show. It's Ren's song, Ren's arrangement and he's providing the musical accompaniment, on guitar. His singing is incredible and he's deliberately singing in harmony for much of the song. Definitely not putting Chinchilla down, she's incredible, but if you think this performance is all about her, you're not watching and listening to the same performance. :)
To each their own I suppose
When a 20 something pop musician seemingly has a better grasp of theology than most evangelical pastors 😤 smh
You mean ren?
Ren has a son called "dear god", where he explores his faith and I think it would be interesting to see your take on it specifically from a religious perspective.
Preaching may not always be appreciated, but i think your insight into the specific topic is a unique selling point.
Thank you that’s a great idea
Why you are not uploading nf reaction 😤
😂
My boyfriend father of my kids committed suicide 11years ago I love this song so much I love you REN thank you Rip Chad hamby ❤
Sorry to hear that rip Chad ❤️
Thank you love ❤
Trev, perceptive, full marks , no need to say anymore on your take on religion or mine, just hat's off to you for your your point view. For Bewilderboy; we no doubt have 'that' hair in the morning, I'm sure and we deal with it accordingly, cap tipped towards you brother Celt.
😂 I appreciate you
Below is Ren's beautiful song dedicated to his best friend Joe Hughes who went missing on 27th December 2010.
It is believed he jumped off a bridge but his body has never been found unfortunately.
In this video you can see photos of Joe and a young Ren with other friends remembering the good times!
ruclips.net/video/gUWK331b8T4/видео.html
I appreciate it!