I learnt the hard way with don't number one, I titrated from 30mg to 50mg far too quickly because I was chasing the euphoric feeling. The side effects and aftermath of taking 50mg set me back one to two months in the titration process. I experienced headaches and nausea on a daily basis whilst taking the 50mg and for a couple days after. The Doctor took me off vyvanse temporarily. He put me on 5mg fast release for 4 weeks whilst I recovered and now I am realising that 20mg is my dose (I requested the start very slowly). Incredibly I am getting 12 hours of use case from 20mg when I was only getting 8 from 50mg plus nasty side effects. The bottom line - start really slowly and do not chase the fuzzy feeling, chase alleviation of your symptoms. I find it very useful to write down the symptoms that I want to alleviate i.e. focus, prevent excessive thoughts etc. If the medication stops working, these targets will not be hit.
'' I titrated from 30mg to 50mg far too quickly because I was chasing the euphoric feeling. '' You basically wanted to have a rush by drug abuse, and not actually treat your problem.
@@asniffer6532I'll completely admit I miss the rush I got the first couple weeks on my Adderall. I'm on two 10 mg tabs a day and its enough to regulate me to a point where I cry from just feeling better.
I was diagnosed with adhd recently so ive been watching a few videos on youtube but you are honestly the only person who makes sense. It's hard for me because most of the videos are very loud so i cant watch it. Started taking medication a week ago and already seeing many positives, really appreciate the effort you go to upload these videos, its really helping me to understand the diagnosis.
Thank you for making this! I just started ADHD meds for the first time a couple days ago, and I've definitely been feeling ridiculously good and productive. My doctor didn't tell me about a honeymoon phase associated with my meds at all, so I feel I definitely would have fallen for that trap of increasing the dosage to chase how I'm feeling right now. But, only being a couple days into taking an ADHD medication, I think it's quite possible that a lot of the more euphoric feelings might just be me being excited about how the meds are working as well as they are. Even after getting formally diagnosed about a month ago, I was still a bit afraid that they got it wrong and all my symptoms were just my own personal shortcomings, and just things I would have to deal with forever. But the meds so far have made significant improvements to my symptoms, so that finally felt like the proof I was waiting for.
I'm so glad I found you, I haven't seen too many people speak to honestly about the process of starting medication so thank you. Can not wait to watch the rest of your videos.
Very useful. I'm in-between and waiting for get funds for medication. Psych has suggested Elvanse straight off. As someone who's been through several antidepressant meds of various strengths, the 'honeymoon period' is well known to me and I still fall for it every time. I'll have to remember to note this when I start titration.
Great video, very reassuring. I took my first dose of elvanse yesterday 30mg which was the first time I've ever medicated for adhd. I didn't really like the feeling, felt very self aware and was a bit uneasy in my own skin if that makes any sense. I need to just keep at it as you say and see what does/doesn't work for me. Hopefully ill feel better with it soon. Thanks for your videos, really helpful and down to earth
thanks for this brother. finally getting my meds next week and a little nervous tbh. also didn't realise my irritability and anger is related to my adhd... the more you know
I hope you are doing awesome, Ollie. I got diagnosed a month ago at 36 and started medication right away. Your videos have helped me so much. Thanks ❤️
I've recently been diagnosed and will start meds later this month (slow healthcare system in sweden) and i am saving this video to rewatch, nice and concise and wise!
Thanks for this! I'm waiting to start Elvanse. I'm looking forward to it but I have to keep reminding myself it's not some miracle cure and all my struggles aren't going to magically disappear! Your video has helped. Thanks 👍
Great video😊for some reason your voice is really comfortable to listen to! For dosage, I had a strange and interesting experience (I'm on concerta), lower dosage actually gave me worse side effects+ a crash in the evening, while increasing the dosage made me feel more stable. So of course you shouldn't go too fast, but I think trusting the process of finding the right dosage is important too
Hi, thank you so much for doing these.. I hope you're doing well. I came across you because I have my first ever prescription and need to understand more. (Elvanse 20mg) I've been told to start on 8th of capsule and increase up, however that works lol. Basically I want to start but I'm so scared to, Instructions say 'take in company of someone' which I don't have. Life long depression 🙄, so very cautious. I hopefully get, from a couple of your videos that lack of sleep is probably all I possibly need worry about now, and avoid the coffee, at the initial tiny dose that is. ?? Sorry waffling.. Take care x
Hi mate hope your well . Not had an update from you recently on how your getting on with medication etc . I’m on 70mg of Elvanse now and it seems to be working ok 👌🏼
Well said. My specialist was great. Wary of online advice, even though you're not giving advice as such, but these videos should be prescribed. How are you keeping?
This is the BEST video I have found so far on ADHD medication experience. Thank you! I am so glad to hear that the euphoric “rush” you feel as the meds kick in wears off. I hate it. I know it’s “nice” but it just reminds me I’m putting chemicals in my body and it makes me so uneasy. Once it settles I feel better. So I’m hoping this will fade away completely. I just want it to help my head and not feel it in my body :) I’m on 30mg Elvanse
Started today - glad I’ve watched this, as I was thinking of increasing my dose straight away as it did not do what I hoped it would (there were positives however). Will stick to Dr.’s plans and see how it goes.
this was very useful with solid practical advise . Thanks mate. Diagnosed in the last month (48) and started a few days ago on 5mg Ritalin twice a day. To be honest there has been a mild effect getting some stuff done.... trust me a mild effect to stop racing thoughts is MASSIVE... productivity improved marginally. I might be going with a full tablet (10mg) for one morning and then assess and maybe 5mg the same afternoon. reason to increase is to help focus and stay on task better. Exercise regime increasing incrementally everyday...... and yes... some things don't change. this is not a miracle drug... we all still human after all
We are all human mate, but we all deserve some peace of mind in our day. All the best with the medication, keep me posted with how you get on my friend
Hope you're getting on well, helpful videos to put my own journey into perspective appreciate the content you have out out so far. 👍 I went to the doctor about 5 years ago, got diagnosed as lockdown hit. Started in concerta then titrated up but found that it sent my sensory overload into overdrive, made me super anxious and increased social anxiety, ended up shutting myself away actively avoiding social contact of any form (always been slightly that way but increased with concerta). LancUK who oversee my prescriptions switched me to Elvanse 30mg which suited me a lot better, titrated up to 50mg and find I'm like a zombie, I can focus on absolutely nothing (as opposed to being unable to focus, I can't drag myself away from sitting stupified) for hours and hours just sitting staring at the tv not taking in what's going on, also find the insomnia messes me up massively, I'll take a dose at 6/7am then not be able to sleep until 5am the next morning which results in missing doses for the next few days as I try to get my sleep pattern back to normal. Every now and again however I'll have a day where I take it and it's like the stars have alligned, I'm well rested enough and the medication works and I feel motivated to get stuff done and stay on task. Got a review coming up soon so I'll see what they say but I suspect I'll be reducing back down or switching to something else. Sidenote my doctor tried me on sertraline for depression and anxiety which didn't agree with me, went for 6 months to a year without trying anything else before going back to the doctor. They put me on Mirtazapine 15mg then 30mg which has definitely helped, also had the added affect of helping me off to sleep as I take it before bedtime. Hope you're keeping well. 👍
I start titration in 4-6 months on lisdexamfetamine as I got diagnosed for combined ADHD on 20th November 2022 also my psychiatrist suspects OCD and ASD which I have also been referred. They say life begins at 40… I’m 42 so I see what they mean 😮
Very good insight as I am about to start Elvanse due to Concerta making me very aggressive and irritable. I have only been diagnosed with ADHD this year at the age of 39! Totally agree with the honeymoon phase and the doubt in your mind as to whether you have been misdiagnosed. Appreciate this content keep it up 👍
Alright mate hope your well? 2 days in on 30mg Elvanse and feeling really positive complete contrast compared to concerta. Do you still have a beer on your meds? Seen loads on conflicting information and with Christmas coming up was just after some advice.
I’m about to start Elvanse 30mg + Dexamfetamine 5mg… Just got diagnosed a couple of weeks ago. I know you mentioned excessive sweating in one of your other videos… did this subside for you? I get anxiety sweats sometimes so I really don’t want to have this as a side effect 😅
Hey Ollie! How are you doing? Thank you for making all these videos, they were a massive help for me prior to getting my diagnosis this spring. I have been on vyvanse since May, and it's been a massive help. I wanted to reach out and ask how you are doing this far into the process, are you still doing fine with the medication? Wish you all the best.
Hi Marius. Im doing great thank you. I'm still on the same 40mg Elvanse daily and its still working as i would hope! Thank you for reaching out, and I'm really pleased to hear the videos were helpful and you are being treated successfully!
Aha I literally just posted a question on another of your vids and u answered it in this about the honeymoon state! 😅 So definitely thought the loss of euphoria was a red flag. But surely the elevated mood should stay?
Definitely agree with the never ending dose increase thing + exercise being super important. If you have been on a higher dose for awhile it can sometimes be better to decrease the dosage even though you may think you need more. For me I was unhappy on 50mg so the doctor increased to 2X30mg per day ie 60mg total. I actually found 60mg to be even worse than 50. I decided to try just taking 1 x 30mg which ended up being way better in the long run after a few days of settling into it. My theory is that this is due to the long half-life of lisdexamfetamine. On the lower dosages you will basically completely eliminate the drug from your system by the time evening comes allowing your brain to replenish dopamine etc overnight. High dosages may initially feel better due to a sharp spike in lisdexamfetamine but this is a very short term thing. Due to the long half life, if you take a high dose there will still be a significant amount of the drug in your system all the way through the night giving your body less of a chance to replenish dopamine stores and return to baseline before the next morning. Basically high doses constantly expose your nervous system to dexamfetamine and prevent you from being able to naturally replenish/restore your brain in the evening. Elvanse also had a diuretic effect meaning you become dehydrated over time due to loss of electrolytes which could also be a cause of decreased efficacy - this side effect will be exasperated by higher dosages. Also not eating enough (another side effect more intense with high doses) prevents you getting the nutrients you need to replenish dopamine. All in all I think high dosages of elvanse are a bad idea and it is most effective (long-term) in low doses. If you genuinely need a higher dosage I think it would be better to not go with elvanse but instant release dexamfetamine because this is eliminated from the body much faster. You can’t just constantly expose yourself to dexamfetamine and expect to feel good forever your body needs a chance to recover at least overnight.
@@ollieedward643 Hey Ollie we are in the process of trying to approve Vyvanse (Elyvanse) right now. In the USA, we have something called Prior Authorizations and they can be such a nightmare holding up the process of trying to find something effective to start. Anyway, how is it the medication going right now? Is it still working consistently and effectively? I was on Adderall 20mg 3x a day and my doctor converted this to 50mg Vyvanse so I hope I will be ok and get anxious lol. But yeah most importantly is the medication still working well for you? How long have you taken it? Sorry for the all the questions but you seem like you are doing great! Be well.
Hi Ollie, great insight and thanks for making these video's they have been a great help. I was diagnosed last month (aged 50) and I am on 30mg of Elvanse - I can see improvements in my mood and focus at work however I tend to drift / distractions etc.. creeps in after lunch 2pm / 3pm. At what stage did you increase the meds from your initial prescription? Great to see your doing well.
Hi Steve. Glad to hear you're having some success with the medication. I had a titration period when i first started in which we gradually increased my dose to find my therapeutic level. Is this not the case for yourself?
@@ollieedward643 Thanks for getting back to me. Yes I have a follow up with my Psychiatrist in a couple of week just wanted to gather others experience and whether its worth talk to my Psychiatrist before the review? Thanks
I was having a hard time crashing with 50 mg. So, the doctor increased my dosage to 70mg. I noticed side effects such as high blood pressure and elevated heartbeats. I got a step back, taking 50mg right after wake up and 20mg few minutes before crash time. My plan is go for 35mg 5AM / 35mg (10AM) and in the future only 30mg. Thanks for let me know, I was trapped by honeymoon effect and I was thinking that I was misdiagnosed.
Hello Oliie, Thanks for uploading your experiences on the channel, they are really helpful. I would like to ask you, this week I started with elvanse 30mg after having a bad experience with concerta, and the first 2 days were amazing, but from the 3rd to the 5th I started to sleep a little less than usual (6h instead of 7,5h or so and of worse quality) and in the afternoon, when the medicine loses its effects, the headaches prevented me from doing anything else but going to bed. It's a very bad feeling, so much so that I'm afraid to take a pill again. Do you think it has to do with the fact that I should try a higher dose that covers more hours per day or that the body has to get used to it? I need help, because I know that it is up to me, besides the psychiatrist, to find what works for me. The truth is that the sensation experienced in the first two days of use after having very low self-esteem, especially at work, has been incomparable. Now I understand the differences between those who have adhd and those who don't, and they have a big advantage. Thank you in advance.
Hi Christian, Thanks for the message, i appreciate you watching! Happy new year to you! I think you'd be best speaking with your prescriber really - they should make these decisions along with yourself. In my opinion, which is purely based on anecdotal experience, my body didn't have to 'get used to' the medicine as such. I didnt suffer majorly with headaches or insomnia, but that isnt to say the medication isnt right for you if you are having these symptoms! Perhaps go back to your Dr and discuss the symptoms youre experiencing and see if they can offer any insight on ?dosage changes or ?type of treatment. Sorry i cant be of more help, but please do keep me posted with your progress! Ollie.
I am about to start with medication and the psychiatrisz said, the only thing there is is ritalin, I'll take that and depending on how I react to the medication, we will find out whether I have ADHD or not. Any thoughts ? is it that simple ?
Hi, thanks so much for your video, I was losing hope, I was on Ritalin and it didn’t agree with me, I’ve just started elvanse 30mg 3 days ago and I feel really anxious and worried that stimulants maybe aren’t for me but I’m going to stick with it. I think the lack of sleep has contributed to my anxiety. I’m gonna get myself to the gym and work the anxiety out, thanks again 🙏🏻
Ollie please help! When you say if you time the exercise right, what time do you mean? Cause it does wear off for me around 2-3. Really hope you reply, thanks
I’m on 20mg, 5 days in and I can’t sleep at all. With the little sleep I am getting I wake up feeling basically hungover, drinking litres of water 😢 really feel like quitting! I want to go to the gym but the lack of sleep is absolutely ruining me
Hey man I have a question I'm 29 and I'm about to start xaggitin xl basically ritalin I think but I've always been proper against pills never taken them but now I'm at a point where I need to cause it is effecting me the thing that makes me sceptical is if the pills will change my personality.... My question is... do you feel different like it's changed you at all?
I was diagnosed when I was 18 but refused to take any medication because it was early days of the bed for ADHD and I didn't know the side effects fast forward to when I was 38 a friend of mine was on them since childhood and he said he was fine and he was a very healthy individual so I took a couple of pills from him and was flabbergasted at the way it allowed me to focus 😲 I then requested the meds from my GP but they said they don't offer them so a few years later now I'm 40 I finally got my prescription today and about to start tomorrow. I really hope this solves my issues because ADHD had been a struggle!! a blessing in some ways too. Let's see how it goes 😬
I just got diagnosed 2 weeks ago and was prescribed Ritalin. I noticed absolutely nothing on 10mg twice daily so he put it up to 15mg twice daily for 5 days and then up to 20mg twice daily and I still notice no change, side effects or even when its kicking in. Im really starting to question my diagnosis! Is this normal?!
Would you agree that medication isn’t a magic bullet, but gives you back fundamental control over your brain to be able to solve the problems in your life?
I’m at the stage of waiting for my gp to send my referral to psychiatry U.K., let’s say you take the meds and they help with anxiety then day you stop taking the meds does that anxiety instantly come back ? And also do other symptoms of adhd instantly come back when you stop taking the meds for a day ?
@@ollieedward643 appreciate the reply so is the medication a pill you take once a day and it lasts until you sleep and has ur sleep gotten better for me I’m just there have so many thoughts going through my brain and by the time I’m asleep it’s like 3am
@@finity9316 I think this is where a lot of people’s experience differs.. for me, I have found taking my one pill first thing in the morning makes me productive throughout the day, and then when it’s worn off (early evening), I am ready to wind down and sleeping is no trouble at all as I have been busy all day. This area is trial and error though, and it might take you a while to find your sweet spot.
Did you have any headaches when you first started? i've taken 2 doses of concerta now (day 2) and even though it seems to be working. i'm just getting annoyed a little with the almost constant headache.
I had awful headaches when I first started and when I was going through changing of doses, it should wear off after a week or two. Hope it did for you 😁
I'm just starting Vyvanse. Started yesterday. 10 mg for a week, then moving to 20 mg once in the morning. I've heard people say that breaks are essential but my doctor didn't mention that. Do you take breaks?
It's good to do, for example on the weekends or when you could manage potentially without them. I couldn't take breaks for 18 months. Is to help regulate tolerance levels and effectiveness
Hi thank you for this video, i am on my 5th day, on 30 mg elvanze, i have crash after 3-5 hours. I feel totalll exhaustion and i do not think i will be able to go to gym anymore. I mean i hope it will get better because i am not sure i can get higher dosage after just 1/2 weeks no?
Thats something to speak with the physician who's overseeing your titration about. I think its usually acceptable to move up that quickly, but definitely speak with them first
@@ollieedward643 hey thank you so much for responding to my question.. i am sorry english is not my first language, may i ask what is titration means? Thank you \
Ollie it sounds like you went private to avoid the 2yr waiting list? Is there anyone you can recommend and are there any adult ADHD groups where I can get some advice?
Hi Dan. You're right, the waiting list was one of the main reasons behind my choice to go private. My treatment is with Anchor Psychiatry - I believed they are only based in Norfolk though! In terms of advice, Reddit forums are great! Take everything with a pinch of salt, but for the most part its full of people going through a similar process. Good luck, Dan!
On 30mg of elvanse and find it doesn’t affect me really. Have tried methylphenidate up to 30mg and that has no effect on me at all! All taken on an empty stomach. Can anyone shed any light on this !
Hey, I started 8 weeks ago with Ritalin 20mg didnt notice much. Now my doc say i should try 40mg but its to much. But I really feel it when it "kicks in" but also the effictive time of the adhd med is really short. Do u have any advice for meds they have longer benefits.
Hope this caddra chart can help you ask for long acting med like Concerta/Elvanse and or nonstimulant, so less slump end of day. Www.caddra.ca meds chart, and handbook free there. I found I had to learn or got far too low doses given the family member and poor results in NZ and not 2 meds. Also this www.additudemag.com/autism-medication-treatment-help-parenting/ Covers the 3 types considered to get life better depending on symptoms. True meds are not panacea but right meds are amazing for quality of life n success. Same two pills a day suited for 3 years. Like insulin 4 diabetes.
I did a test where I took my daily dose of Vyvanse and then took a bit more (1/10th of a capsule) just to see if 80mgs would work better. Ends up that 70mg Vyvanse works perfectly. 80mg makes me feel dumb… dumber… more dumberer than usual.
I learnt the hard way with don't number one, I titrated from 30mg to 50mg far too quickly because I was chasing the euphoric feeling. The side effects and aftermath of taking 50mg set me back one to two months in the titration process. I experienced headaches and nausea on a daily basis whilst taking the 50mg and for a couple days after. The Doctor took me off vyvanse temporarily. He put me on 5mg fast release for 4 weeks whilst I recovered and now I am realising that 20mg is my dose (I requested the start very slowly). Incredibly I am getting 12 hours of use case from 20mg when I was only getting 8 from 50mg plus nasty side effects. The bottom line - start really slowly and do not chase the fuzzy feeling, chase alleviation of your symptoms. I find it very useful to write down the symptoms that I want to alleviate i.e. focus, prevent excessive thoughts etc. If the medication stops working, these targets will not be hit.
'' I titrated from 30mg to 50mg far too quickly because I was chasing the euphoric feeling. ''
You basically wanted to have a rush by drug abuse, and not actually treat your problem.
@@asniffer6532he literally said that.
@@asniffer6532I'll completely admit I miss the rush I got the first couple weeks on my Adderall. I'm on two 10 mg tabs a day and its enough to regulate me to a point where I cry from just feeling better.
I was diagnosed with adhd recently so ive been watching a few videos on youtube but you are honestly the only person who makes sense. It's hard for me because most of the videos are very loud so i cant watch it. Started taking medication a week ago and already seeing many positives, really appreciate the effort you go to upload these videos, its really helping me to understand the diagnosis.
Thank you for making this! I just started ADHD meds for the first time a couple days ago, and I've definitely been feeling ridiculously good and productive. My doctor didn't tell me about a honeymoon phase associated with my meds at all, so I feel I definitely would have fallen for that trap of increasing the dosage to chase how I'm feeling right now.
But, only being a couple days into taking an ADHD medication, I think it's quite possible that a lot of the more euphoric feelings might just be me being excited about how the meds are working as well as they are. Even after getting formally diagnosed about a month ago, I was still a bit afraid that they got it wrong and all my symptoms were just my own personal shortcomings, and just things I would have to deal with forever. But the meds so far have made significant improvements to my symptoms, so that finally felt like the proof I was waiting for.
Hi, 9 months later how are you doing now? And what meds are you on please?
This is genuinely so so so helpful. Thank you!
I'm so glad I found you, I haven't seen too many people speak to honestly about the process of starting medication so thank you. Can not wait to watch the rest of your videos.
Very informative. Well done x
Loved this video. Helps to manage expectations and prepare for the start.
Thank you! It was really helpful hearing this! I had the same feeling of dispair when the Concerta didn't work and made me tired too.
Hope you’re doing well, I’m 26, going in today to start on some meds. Your vids have been helpful this morning. Appreciate you bro.
Thanks sounds good started today on 5mg tirade up slowly over the next 2 of weeks thankyou for the great tips
Very useful. I'm in-between and waiting for get funds for medication. Psych has suggested Elvanse straight off. As someone who's been through several antidepressant meds of various strengths, the 'honeymoon period' is well known to me and I still fall for it every time. I'll have to remember to note this when I start titration.
Very useful info. Thank you.
Great video, very reassuring. I took my first dose of elvanse yesterday 30mg which was the first time I've ever medicated for adhd. I didn't really like the feeling, felt very self aware and was a bit uneasy in my own skin if that makes any sense. I need to just keep at it as you say and see what does/doesn't work for me. Hopefully ill feel better with it soon. Thanks for your videos, really helpful and down to earth
thanks for this brother. finally getting my meds next week and a little nervous tbh. also didn't realise my irritability and anger is related to my adhd... the more you know
Yeah, same man! I didn't know that. Starting my meds in a week :)
I hope you are doing awesome, Ollie. I got diagnosed a month ago at 36 and started medication right away. Your videos have helped me so much. Thanks ❤️
How are you getting on? I was also 36.
Ollie please come back. We miss you ! We hope your ok.
I've recently been diagnosed and will start meds later this month (slow healthcare system in sweden) and i am saving this video to rewatch, nice and concise and wise!
Good luck with the meds! Let me know how you get on.
Thanks for this! I'm waiting to start Elvanse. I'm looking forward to it but I have to keep reminding myself it's not some miracle cure and all my struggles aren't going to magically disappear! Your video has helped. Thanks 👍
How’s it been?
Great video😊for some reason your voice is really comfortable to listen to! For dosage, I had a strange and interesting experience (I'm on concerta), lower dosage actually gave me worse side effects+ a crash in the evening, while increasing the dosage made me feel more stable. So of course you shouldn't go too fast, but I think trusting the process of finding the right dosage is important too
Haha, thank you! I think you're absolutely right about taking your time.
Thank you for this video!!!!!! ✨
Of course!!
Hi, thank you so much for doing these.. I hope you're doing well. I came across you because I have my first ever prescription and need to understand more.
(Elvanse 20mg) I've been told to start on 8th of capsule and increase up, however that works lol. Basically I want to start but I'm so scared to, Instructions say 'take in company of someone' which I don't have.
Life long depression 🙄, so very cautious.
I hopefully get, from a couple of your videos that lack of sleep is probably all I possibly need worry about now, and avoid the coffee, at the initial tiny dose that is. ??
Sorry waffling.. Take care x
Hi mate hope your well .
Not had an update from you recently on how your getting on with medication etc . I’m on 70mg of Elvanse now and it seems to be working ok 👌🏼
Well said. My specialist was great. Wary of online advice, even though you're not giving advice as such, but these videos should be prescribed. How are you keeping?
Thank you for the advice. Just started concerta today and I’m glad to be aware that it might disappoint. Let’s see what happens
Best of luck!
This is the BEST video I have found so far on ADHD medication experience. Thank you!
I am so glad to hear that the euphoric “rush” you feel as the meds kick in wears off. I hate it. I know it’s “nice” but it just reminds me I’m putting chemicals in my body and it makes me so uneasy. Once it settles I feel better. So I’m hoping this will fade away completely. I just want it to help my head and not feel it in my body :) I’m on 30mg Elvanse
Thank you for your kind words. I hope you find the right dose for you!
Very imformative video!
Started today - glad I’ve watched this, as I was thinking of increasing my dose straight away as it did not do what I hoped it would (there were positives however).
Will stick to Dr.’s plans and see how it goes.
I hope all goes well for you, good luck!
@@ollieedward643 thank you!
this was very useful with solid practical advise . Thanks mate. Diagnosed in the last month (48) and started a few days ago on 5mg Ritalin twice a day. To be honest there has been a mild effect getting some stuff done.... trust me a mild effect to stop racing thoughts is MASSIVE... productivity improved marginally. I might be going with a full tablet (10mg) for one morning and then assess and maybe 5mg the same afternoon. reason to increase is to help focus and stay on task better.
Exercise regime increasing incrementally everyday...... and yes... some things don't change. this is not a miracle drug... we all still human after all
We are all human mate, but we all deserve some peace of mind in our day. All the best with the medication, keep me posted with how you get on my friend
Thank you 🙏
Hope you're getting on well, helpful videos to put my own journey into perspective appreciate the content you have out out so far. 👍
I went to the doctor about 5 years ago, got diagnosed as lockdown hit. Started in concerta then titrated up but found that it sent my sensory overload into overdrive, made me super anxious and increased social anxiety, ended up shutting myself away actively avoiding social contact of any form (always been slightly that way but increased with concerta).
LancUK who oversee my prescriptions switched me to Elvanse 30mg which suited me a lot better, titrated up to 50mg and find I'm like a zombie, I can focus on absolutely nothing (as opposed to being unable to focus, I can't drag myself away from sitting stupified) for hours and hours just sitting staring at the tv not taking in what's going on, also find the insomnia messes me up massively, I'll take a dose at 6/7am then not be able to sleep until 5am the next morning which results in missing doses for the next few days as I try to get my sleep pattern back to normal.
Every now and again however I'll have a day where I take it and it's like the stars have alligned, I'm well rested enough and the medication works and I feel motivated to get stuff done and stay on task.
Got a review coming up soon so I'll see what they say but I suspect I'll be reducing back down or switching to something else.
Sidenote my doctor tried me on sertraline for depression and anxiety which didn't agree with me, went for 6 months to a year without trying anything else before going back to the doctor.
They put me on Mirtazapine 15mg then 30mg which has definitely helped, also had the added affect of helping me off to sleep as I take it before bedtime.
Hope you're keeping well. 👍
I start titration in 4-6 months on lisdexamfetamine as I got diagnosed for combined ADHD on 20th November 2022 also my psychiatrist suspects OCD and ASD which I have also been referred. They say life begins at 40… I’m 42 so I see what they mean 😮
Very good insight as I am about to start Elvanse due to Concerta making me very aggressive and irritable. I have only been diagnosed with ADHD this year at the age of 39! Totally agree with the honeymoon phase and the doubt in your mind as to whether you have been misdiagnosed. Appreciate this content keep it up 👍
Thanks Simon. Good luck with the medication!
Alright mate hope your well? 2 days in on 30mg Elvanse and feeling really positive complete contrast compared to concerta. Do you still have a beer on your meds? Seen loads on conflicting information and with Christmas coming up was just after some advice.
I’m about to start Elvanse 30mg + Dexamfetamine 5mg… Just got diagnosed a couple of weeks ago. I know you mentioned excessive sweating in one of your other videos… did this subside for you? I get anxiety sweats sometimes so I really don’t want to have this as a side effect 😅
Hey Ollie! How are you doing? Thank you for making all these videos, they were a massive help for me prior to getting my diagnosis this spring. I have been on vyvanse since May, and it's been a massive help. I wanted to reach out and ask how you are doing this far into the process, are you still doing fine with the medication? Wish you all the best.
Hi Marius. Im doing great thank you. I'm still on the same 40mg Elvanse daily and its still working as i would hope! Thank you for reaching out, and I'm really pleased to hear the videos were helpful and you are being treated successfully!
@@ollieedward643 Thank you for the reply, it's great to hear that long term it's still working for you. Let's hope it does for quite a while!!
Aha I literally just posted a question on another of your vids and u answered it in this about the honeymoon state! 😅
So definitely thought the loss of euphoria was a red flag.
But surely the elevated mood should stay?
Definitely agree with the never ending dose increase thing + exercise being super important. If you have been on a higher dose for awhile it can sometimes be better to decrease the dosage even though you may think you need more. For me I was unhappy on 50mg so the doctor increased to 2X30mg per day ie 60mg total. I actually found 60mg to be even worse than 50. I decided to try just taking 1 x 30mg which ended up being way better in the long run after a few days of settling into it.
My theory is that this is due to the long half-life of lisdexamfetamine. On the lower dosages you will basically completely eliminate the drug from your system by the time evening comes allowing your brain to replenish dopamine etc overnight. High dosages may initially feel better due to a sharp spike in lisdexamfetamine but this is a very short term thing. Due to the long half life, if you take a high dose there will still be a significant amount of the drug in your system all the way through the night giving your body less of a chance to replenish dopamine stores and return to baseline before the next morning. Basically high doses constantly expose your nervous system to dexamfetamine and prevent you from being able to naturally replenish/restore your brain in the evening. Elvanse also had a diuretic effect meaning you become dehydrated over time due to loss of electrolytes which could also be a cause of decreased efficacy - this side effect will be exasperated by higher dosages. Also not eating enough (another side effect more intense with high doses) prevents you getting the nutrients you need to replenish dopamine.
All in all I think high dosages of elvanse are a bad idea and it is most effective (long-term) in low doses. If you genuinely need a higher dosage I think it would be better to not go with elvanse but instant release dexamfetamine because this is eliminated from the body much faster. You can’t just constantly expose yourself to dexamfetamine and expect to feel good forever your body needs a chance to recover at least overnight.
This is great information!
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!
@@ollieedward643 Hey Ollie we are in the process of trying to approve Vyvanse (Elyvanse) right now. In the USA, we have something called Prior Authorizations and they can be such a nightmare holding up the process of trying to find something effective to start. Anyway, how is it the medication going right now? Is it still working consistently and effectively? I was on Adderall 20mg 3x a day and my doctor converted this to 50mg Vyvanse so I hope I will be ok and get anxious lol.
But yeah most importantly is the medication still working well for you? How long have you taken it? Sorry for the all the questions but you seem like you are doing great! Be well.
Cheers bud
Hi Ollie, great insight and thanks for making these video's they have been a great help. I was diagnosed last month (aged 50) and I am on 30mg of Elvanse - I can see improvements in my mood and focus at work however I tend to drift / distractions etc.. creeps in after lunch 2pm / 3pm. At what stage did you increase the meds from your initial prescription? Great to see your doing well.
Hi Steve. Glad to hear you're having some success with the medication. I had a titration period when i first started in which we gradually increased my dose to find my therapeutic level. Is this not the case for yourself?
@@ollieedward643 Thanks for getting back to me. Yes I have a follow up with my Psychiatrist in a couple of week just wanted to gather others experience and whether its worth talk to my Psychiatrist before the review? Thanks
I was having a hard time crashing with 50 mg. So, the doctor increased my dosage to 70mg. I noticed side effects such as high blood pressure and elevated heartbeats. I got a step back, taking 50mg right after wake up and 20mg few minutes before crash time. My plan is go for 35mg 5AM / 35mg (10AM) and in the future only 30mg. Thanks for let me know, I was trapped by honeymoon effect and I was thinking that I was misdiagnosed.
Hello Oliie,
Thanks for uploading your experiences on the channel, they are really helpful. I would like to ask you, this week I started with elvanse 30mg after having a bad experience with concerta, and the first 2 days were amazing, but from the 3rd to the 5th I started to sleep a little less than usual (6h instead of 7,5h or so and of worse quality) and in the afternoon, when the medicine loses its effects, the headaches prevented me from doing anything else but going to bed. It's a very bad feeling, so much so that I'm afraid to take a pill again. Do you think it has to do with the fact that I should try a higher dose that covers more hours per day or that the body has to get used to it?
I need help, because I know that it is up to me, besides the psychiatrist, to find what works for me. The truth is that the sensation experienced in the first two days of use after having very low self-esteem, especially at work, has been incomparable. Now I understand the differences between those who have adhd and those who don't, and they have a big advantage.
Thank you in advance.
Hi Christian,
Thanks for the message, i appreciate you watching! Happy new year to you!
I think you'd be best speaking with your prescriber really - they should make these decisions along with yourself. In my opinion, which is purely based on anecdotal experience, my body didn't have to 'get used to' the medicine as such. I didnt suffer majorly with headaches or insomnia, but that isnt to say the medication isnt right for you if you are having these symptoms! Perhaps go back to your Dr and discuss the symptoms youre experiencing and see if they can offer any insight on ?dosage changes or ?type of treatment.
Sorry i cant be of more help, but please do keep me posted with your progress!
Ollie.
Thanks for this video! Is the ideal time for exercise in the morning or as you start to crash later in the day?
Personally I think just before the afternoon crash is best!
I am about to start with medication and the psychiatrisz said, the only thing there is is ritalin, I'll take that and depending on how I react to the medication, we will find out whether I have ADHD or not.
Any thoughts ? is it that simple ?
Hi, thanks so much for your video, I was losing hope, I was on Ritalin and it didn’t agree with me, I’ve just started elvanse 30mg 3 days ago and I feel really anxious and worried that stimulants maybe aren’t for me but I’m going to stick with it. I think the lack of sleep has contributed to my anxiety. I’m gonna get myself to the gym and work the anxiety out, thanks again 🙏🏻
Hopefully the anxiety has regulated and your system is used to it. I also experienced this, how are things?
Ollie please help! When you say if you time the exercise right, what time do you mean? Cause it does wear off for me around 2-3. Really hope you reply, thanks
I’m on 20mg, 5 days in and I can’t sleep at all. With the little sleep I am getting I wake up feeling basically hungover, drinking litres of water 😢 really feel like quitting! I want to go to the gym but the lack of sleep is absolutely ruining me
What time are you taking your dose?
Hey man I have a question I'm 29 and I'm about to start xaggitin xl basically ritalin I think but I've always been proper against pills never taken them but now I'm at a point where I need to cause it is effecting me the thing that makes me sceptical is if the pills will change my personality.... My question is... do you feel different like it's changed you at all?
Same feeling here, I start meds next week and will let you know hopefully
@@karlomatic2690 picked mine up today mate so il give you the update 👍
I was diagnosed when I was 18 but refused to take any medication because it was early days of the bed for ADHD and I didn't know the side effects fast forward to when I was 38 a friend of mine was on them since childhood and he said he was fine and he was a very healthy individual so I took a couple of pills from him and was flabbergasted at the way it allowed me to focus 😲 I then requested the meds from my GP but they said they don't offer them so a few years later now I'm 40 I finally got my prescription today and about to start tomorrow. I really hope this solves my issues because ADHD had been a struggle!! a blessing in some ways too. Let's see how it goes 😬
I just got diagnosed 2 weeks ago and was prescribed Ritalin. I noticed absolutely nothing on 10mg twice daily so he put it up to 15mg twice daily for 5 days and then up to 20mg twice daily and I still notice no change, side effects or even when its kicking in. Im really starting to question my diagnosis! Is this normal?!
You have too low of a dosage for your body.
Would you agree that medication isn’t a magic bullet, but gives you back fundamental control over your brain to be able to solve the problems in your life?
I’m at the stage of waiting for my gp to send my referral to psychiatry U.K., let’s say you take the meds and they help with anxiety then day you stop taking the meds does that anxiety instantly come back ? And also do other symptoms of adhd instantly come back when you stop taking the meds for a day ?
I do notice my anxiety is worse on days when I don’t take my meds, definitely.. but I don’t know whether that’s just placebo!
@@ollieedward643 appreciate the reply so is the medication a pill you take once a day and it lasts until you sleep and has ur sleep gotten better for me I’m just there have so many thoughts going through my brain and by the time I’m asleep it’s like 3am
@@finity9316 I think this is where a lot of people’s experience differs.. for me, I have found taking my one pill first thing in the morning makes me productive throughout the day, and then when it’s worn off (early evening), I am ready to wind down and sleeping is no trouble at all as I have been busy all day. This area is trial and error though, and it might take you a while to find your sweet spot.
Did you have any headaches when you first started? i've taken 2 doses of concerta now (day 2) and even though it seems to be working. i'm just getting annoyed a little with the almost constant headache.
I had awful headaches when I first started and when I was going through changing of doses, it should wear off after a week or two. Hope it did for you 😁
It might be the dehydration mate
Huge ‘Don’t’ is intake caffeine with Elvanse… trust me!
I do have caffeine daily, I'm just extremely cautious about having 'too much'
I'm just starting Vyvanse. Started yesterday. 10 mg for a week, then moving to 20 mg once in the morning. I've heard people say that breaks are essential but my doctor didn't mention that. Do you take breaks?
It's good to do, for example on the weekends or when you could manage potentially without them. I couldn't take breaks for 18 months. Is to help regulate tolerance levels and effectiveness
Hi thank you for this video, i am on my 5th day, on 30 mg elvanze, i have crash after 3-5 hours. I feel totalll exhaustion and i do not think i will be able to go to gym anymore. I mean i hope it will get better because i am not sure i can get higher dosage after just 1/2 weeks no?
Thats something to speak with the physician who's overseeing your titration about. I think its usually acceptable to move up that quickly, but definitely speak with them first
@@ollieedward643 hey thank you so much for responding to my question.. i am sorry english is not my first language, may i ask what is titration means? Thank you
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Great video. I just sent you a long winded email 😆
Wheres he at
Ollie it sounds like you went private to avoid the 2yr waiting list? Is there anyone you can recommend and are there any adult ADHD groups where I can get some advice?
Hi Dan. You're right, the waiting list was one of the main reasons behind my choice to go private. My treatment is with Anchor Psychiatry - I believed they are only based in Norfolk though! In terms of advice, Reddit forums are great! Take everything with a pinch of salt, but for the most part its full of people going through a similar process. Good luck, Dan!
@@ollieedward643 Thanks Ollie, really appreciate that
On 30mg of elvanse and find it doesn’t affect me really. Have tried methylphenidate up to 30mg and that has no effect on me at all! All taken on an empty stomach. Can anyone shed any light on this !
Have you tried eating a protein rich breakfast immediately after taking your medication? Protein is supposed to help the body absorb the meds better.
Hey, I started 8 weeks ago with Ritalin 20mg didnt notice much. Now my doc say i should try 40mg but its to much. But I really feel it when it "kicks in" but also the effictive time of the adhd med is really short. Do u have any advice for meds they have longer benefits.
I had a similar experience - and I solved it with exercise! Do you exercise regularly?
@@ollieedward643 Thank you for the answer. Yeah 4 to 5 time a week
@@groundwork_99_livre32 has your doctor suggested taking an extended release version? Or even having a second dose in the afternoon?
@@ollieedward643 she suggest me a second dose of 10mg in the afternoon
Hope this caddra chart can help you ask for long acting med like Concerta/Elvanse and or nonstimulant, so less slump end of day. Www.caddra.ca meds chart, and handbook free there. I found I had to learn or got far too low doses given the family member and poor results in NZ and not 2 meds. Also this www.additudemag.com/autism-medication-treatment-help-parenting/
Covers the 3 types considered to get life better depending on symptoms. True meds are not panacea but right meds are amazing for quality of life n success. Same two pills a day suited for 3 years. Like insulin 4 diabetes.
HOW DO I FIX THE DRY MOUTH FROM VYVANSE 70mg ??? Does anyone get demineralization on the edge of teeth? (White spots)
Sounds like I’m being sarcastic, but I promise I’m not - just drink more water 😬
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Yo, is elvanse really the same as vyvanse?
Jep
I’ve been watching ur videos and i find u so handsome 😍. (Damn adhd. Ok, Back to listening to u)
Just got off of vyvense terrible med for me after the first 4 days with the side effects, it got worser and worser each day
Sorry to hear that
What the hell is concentra
Ritalin extended release in the UK
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Stay on the lowest dose for as long as possible. Take the weekends off and a Week off after 3 months to limit the amount of tolerance.
The doctor recommended I take 20 to 25 mg a day but only plan on taking only 10mg regardless, and possibly take a few days off throughout the week.
Not profession advice*
Forgot about the most important: don't drink alcohol nor do any drugs...
YUP
This is really helpful thanks. Also ur very attractive, no hetero (I’m a lesbian)
I did a test where I took my daily dose of Vyvanse and then took a bit more (1/10th of a capsule) just to see if 80mgs would work better.
Ends up that 70mg Vyvanse works perfectly. 80mg makes me feel dumb… dumber… more dumberer than usual.
Awesome - have you changed doses for good now?
@@ollieedward643 I’ve been on 70mg forever but I don’t take it all at once. I’ve been taking 1/3 every 2 hours.
@@GoADHDGo that’s awesome - glad you’ve found something that works for you!
Can you make more videos? Your videos have really helped me answer some questions that I had about living with ADHD.
@@marybrown3029 Are you referring to me or Ollie? :)