I just got off a cruise ship that had motion sim racing setups and I now want one but the specific ones they had were $77k a piece so my ingenuity is getting the better of me and now I want to build one
Same here.. You can build one yourself.. Lot and lots of guys have done it.. I'm working on a new one right now in fact! Here is my newer series ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
Sounds Great my friend! I tell ya, adding that traction loss frame is the bomb! I would not have it any other way now.. (except a 6DOF!) Thanks for the comment! DMAX
Abram! Awesome to hear and thanks for the comment my friend! I try to share as much as I remember to! But cant remember it all so feel free to subscribe and ask questions! It may take me a few hours to reply 'cause I work and stuff.. but You're welcome anytime! DMAX
That's a fantastic comment. Great idea to get the scope of work understood. Hope you get time to check out more of the videos I have.. they are all about building your own motion simulator. Also check the x-simulator.net forum. That's where I started my research and tons of info there. Dave
yes sir finally i had some great infos from your videos regarding building using 2 motors. gonna start with 2 DOF. watching yours easily fed my mind with the idea
@@lemboizzz Great.. It's fantastic once you get it running my friend! If you have any questions, just post them here and hopefully I can see them and answer them DMAx
Sooooo few people with the ability to do this stuff in a real way that there is so little in the way of basic info. Thanks for this it gets me started at least knowing where to start getting things together.
Great Comment and observation.. Yeah. 3 years ago I barely knew what any of these things were.. I did a bit a poking around on YT and found X simulator.net. Used the info to build my first motion sim. I had no idea what any of this was except I did like Grand Turismo on the play station with a controller but watching a few things made me think.. I can do that too - but didnt see any videos on it.. - So there we go. I decided to post up some stuff cause it worked pretty good. I have a new video coming out in the next couple days on the COMPACT simulator . Hope you have time to watch.. I'm working on the edit right now. And thanks for your comment.. Keeps me plugged in and helps me remember to keep posting stuff. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY have you looked into / found / built anything using the piston style D box style ? I’m really thinking that’s the way to go as that seems to be the most popular and highly touted motion platform these days. If I can find the hardware ( I haven’t started really trying yet ) and there are software solutions to use it (which clearly there are) then I may try to go that route. Any suggestions or have you come across other DIY piston style ? I don’t really know what else to call them. But it’s what D box uses , one on each corner of the rig.
@@SticksAandstonesBozo so I used to mess around with a lot of pneumatic actuators back when I was involved in the Halloween Fright scene.. a long time ago. So I do read about these (electrical screw assemblies (as opposed to pneumatics) and I see the benefits. I would suggest looking up " six degrees of flight" - on YT he has not posted in a while but he was using this type of actuator.. also I am in contact with "MOTION simulators" on YT and sort of on Facebook, which I dont look at that often.. Many of those guys are building the same things.. 3 DOF, 6 DOF etc using the DIY actuators. I just have not had a chance to bite off that much yet.. YET.. Let me know if you need links to their channels.. ALL the best my friend> Dave
Awesome video. So many of us have gone through something similar over the past year and a half. I Personally went from a Thrustmaster wheel attached to a laptop stand in front of the TV to a full cockpit with DD wheel butt kicker VR etc. A buddy of mine in his 60's has 2 full rigs now and is contemplating a 3rd lol. What you have done here is inspiring.
DANG!! Yep I know what you mean Travis! It's so cool when you put your willpower into making something better! I appreciate your comment my friend! I'm still improving the rig for better response but not posted any of those videos yet.. Thanks so much for commenting.. It DOES mean a lot! DMAX
Thanks for the comment and the LIKE. I really appreciate it! - BTW did you ever get that Rollercoaster SIM working again. Rollercoaster tycoon, that is.. This type of Rig can run off the data - And with the WIND SIM.. Should be great! DMAX
DMAX your the best man! Thank you soo much for shairing your knowledge and project details thats soo important for sim comunty to have that type of examples. Wish you best
Thanks so much for this overview. When i get some time I would love to build one and this broke it down into easy pieces to understand what I would need to do. When i look at your rig, it looks so complicated, but actually its just simple steps. Really hoping this video gets some traction as you have some great content.
Thanks for taking a look! It's really just a bunch of parts that work together pretty well. Takes a little time to build it. But by making it yourself, if something acts weird, you know what it is and it's usually pretty cheap to fix. If something goes haywire with a commercial rig, you have to send it in. We all pretty much use the same components anyway (from what I can see). In any case, this thing is an absolute blast to drive in VR. Now with the Wind Sim, it's even Cooler haha DMAX😀
Thanks Nicholas! That's so COOL! Yeah.. Just click on a few of my videos and check out the info everyone has posted on x-simulator.net.. You'll be moving soon! Incredible.. hard to describe.. Other than it's like actually being IN the car.. DMAX
Thanks my friend! It's a game changer once you get these things working! I am posting a series of videos now which would take you through the whole thing if you want to take a look.. here is the link.. Thanks for the comment! There's like 4 videos on it step by step.. I'm just finishing up the last one ruclips.net/video/5Du7pbOSe_Y/видео.html DMAX
Awesome job but may I suggest finding someone w/ experience in high end electronic installs (home theater, car audio/ video, etc) to help clean up your wiring a bit. I've found a second set of eyes is always beneficial especially on longer term projects. Incredible ingenuity nonetheless!
Juan, You are probably right.. But these are both just 'test' simulators. super basic and just testing parts out to see what happens.. I actually plan on building a real motion rig and building in wiring tunnels etc into the frames but have not started that project yet.. Soon though, I'll concentrate on getting things a bit more 'permanent' Thanks for the comment! Dave
Love your shirt: 'real cars don't shift themselves'. Unfortunately given how the vast majority of car owners don't drive a car with a real transmission, the point is lost in them. But hey, real drivers get it. Cheers on a very nice rig.
Hahah! Nice.. yea.. it is what it is.. Love the gated shifter myself.. but building a new rig and have a new series on it.. (going to try paddle shifters) I'm still old school but will give it a shot.. here is the new series if you want to take a look SLA55.. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
very cool man i dont got any of the skills u got for this loll u fr came to a motion chair not knowing crap and some how just know how to do the tec stuff lol and even learned to weld
That ok my brother.. I didn't know how to do much before 2020 I was driving on a desk with my old Driving force wheel.. Did not even know this stuff existed till I got bored and starting looking a youtube.. amazing stuff people make.. I just wanted to be 'get some of that' for myself.. Thanks for the comment! DMAX
Thanks for the comment my friend. Lot of great info on the xsimulator.net forum on this build and others and lot of links in the description so be sure to take a look at those too..! DMAX
Hey D Max, I'm from Germany and was looking for a DIY motion solution when I came across your video. It's the most genuine, down-to-earth, and coolest solution I've found so far. Definitely ranks at the top of the methods I'm considering. Since the video is already 3 years old, I wanted to ask if you're still active and if you could possibly offer some guidance. Wish you all the best.
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yeah, motion rigs are way too cool. I absolutely love it. Making another one right now - a setmover project - for anyone who want motion, but not a full frame. DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY Subscribed! Would you mind elaborating what translates the signal from the game to the motors for the motion? I am also a machinist and I want to build one and my biggest holdback is not understanding what's making the motion. Is it software? How do you know how many pulses of the motor to create the desired motion? Am i overthinking it?
Epic. I just bought Logitech wheel and pedals for vr racing and built an mdf sim cockpit to hold it all. Now I’m looking at 3dof rig too. All in one week 😂
This is awesome. Once I upgrade to a better pc I think I'm gonna build one of these. I built my own rig from wood and I love it even though it's not a motion Sim.
Nice! Tell you what though.. you dont need a very good pc to run the motion. I have a couple series where I used the worst laptop and it runs the game and the motion system at the same time.. The real reason to get the better PC would be for using VR which takes a lot of resourses.. The motion programs require hardly any processing power as all they do is read the game telemetry I/O
@@DMAX_DIY I plan to get a better pc to run assetto corsa since all I can run is live for speed at the moment and then get vr and then build a motion rig at some point. I also need to get a better wheel setup since I'm using a Logitech g920. It's a great wheel but when I'm drifting it just barely keeps up.
Ok Guys! I'm making a new 3 video 'series' on how to upgrade your 'static' rig to a seat mover so check back on this channel and as always, leave a few comments! DMAX
This is my first time, got this…” OH GOD. GOOD LUCK. Welcome to the world of welding! Yeah it holds, but the look will start bothering you IF NOT PERFECT. Seriously this will hit you hard!
Yeah.. the look bothers me.. That Surprisingly the welds actually held up for 3 years so far. Which great because there is a lot of stress on these joints. Much more comfortable welding now after 3 years since this vid.. But now your right.. Dave
Would love to build something like this. I have a decent rig and motion is all that's missing now. Huge respect for you putting this together yourself and making it from scratch
Hello Andy! Thanks for the comment.. I'm just finishing up a series on 3DOF build compact motion sim.. From 'scratch" check it out and I have a few Simtools Pro liscences to give a way .. so be sure to Check out video 8 and 9 for how to win.. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_ Dave
Yeah my friend! YT did not notify me of your comment until now .. 4 weeks later.. Crazy.. VR is definitely the way to go.. Absolutely love it! That NLR rig would be pretty dang cool to modify for motion.. Just saying! Keep me posted! DMAX
Thanks for the comment and the kudos! Yeah I've been working on these things for a few years now and hopefully you can find time to watch my other videos.. I'm working on a 'compact' frame now which should have a smaller 'footprint'.. but bring the same responsiveness.. Dave
Thanks! There's a new one I'm working on right now. should be out in a week or so.. Here's the latest series link.. Dave ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
Omg. Dude that's an awesome build. Would be so cool using that with a VR headset at the same time. Full virtual reality. Edited. I just looked in the videos. You already thought of it 🤣
Dead Side.. Thanks for the comment my friend.. Yeah It's so friggin cool.. I just love it! Pretty real and allows me to 'almost' drive expensive cars! DMAX
Thanks for the question. The wheels are there just to support the weight of the rig and simply roll when the traction loss motor moves the mid frame. Hope that helps.. I also have a video on the traction loss on my home page..
Hello from far Ukraine! Just saw your video. Awesome job! Definitely will build a copy of your design! PS: I'm making a DIY steering wheel using old pc wheel and changing 2 microcontrollers: Arduino Leonardo and STM32 BluePill right now. 3D printed 8 speed h-shifter. Pedals are still printing. Budget is 40$. Without Force feedback right now.
Oh that's awesome! Nice! Thanks for the comments my friend! I posted the build on x-simulator.net if you want to check out more www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
Very cool. Waiting for my PS5 to arrive, just got the PSVR2 headset and going with the G29 wheel for now. Tonight while looking at reviews I came across this YAW seat and 2 or 3 DOF. It's like this is a great idea, wonder if I can build it myself. Poof, here's D Max (thought Duramax at first) and his own ideas. Now I'm thinking why can't I build my own wheel and stuff? Ok maybe not while I'm working overseas but when I retire in 18 months or so. Party on Garth. Thanks!!!
Ok cool I'm have 22 months till retire. Made some videos on how to have fun and connect with the gang if you want. Here's the channel page.. which has all the videos ruclips.net/channel/UCVaC4nPhsTa9BRKjQFhf1kw Here's my Road Rage series where you can ask questions and I try to answer them: ruclips.net/video/-pFdI5eKO70/видео.html All the best Hope you can watch a few on my site Dave
I found you through learning how to make the basic motor setup. I am going for a VR superbike. I already have gymnastics pads for my room scale. I broke my foot once and my hand 2 times. I have the Open wheeler frame with G29. It needs motion too. Cool setup
Great comment Gopherchucks.. I cant seem to wrap my head around motion for a bike.. Not yet.. So I subscribed to a channel Chris Beeves.. www.youtube.com/@ChrisBeeves he did make a motion simulator for superbikes.. Take a look . Might be helpful.. Dave
Thanks Isaac Christie. It's been fun.. And it's been working for like 3 years now.. no real issues.. I race it every weekend too! Thanks for the comment! DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY awesome so I know its really reliable. Right now i spend a couple hours jimmy rigging my desk with some materials i got from work(construction). So once i make this itll be a lot nicer
@@Odysseus38 Cool.. I did that too.. with triples on the bench.. Till I got the VR.. then it was game over till I heard about DIY a motion rig.. If you go to xsimulator.net.. there is a ton of guys there building all sorts of rigs. Thats where you get the Plug ins and all that.. It's legit.. No issues - Just guys trying to build stuff for simulators. Hope you take a look. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY thats so cool, and this community for sim racing seems amazing so far. Like you dont need to be rich to get into it and its not super snobby either. I love how much diy stuff there is out there to do. I cant wait to do all sorts of Ardiuno stuff with sim racing
@@Odysseus38 Well you hit the nail on the head .. Yes.. Yes YES.. It's dang cool.. pretty inexpensive.. The arduino makes it pretty easy. and all the programing is already done so Off we go ! Check back my friend! Dave
@@thevirtualgamegod 50:1 12volt motors just search Ebay for GEAR MOTOR 12 VOLT GREAT FOR SAWMILL/CRAB POT PULL/FEED/SIMULATOR 75-80RPM 50:1 (sold by PGSAW in Canada) Just put in "GEAR MOTOR 12 VOLT GREAT FOR SAWMILL/CRAB POT PULL/FEED/SIMULATOR 75-80RPM 50:1 " in Ebay. They ship from Canada.. It takes about a week and a half to get them in the USA.. I really like them but if you want more powerful motors, you need to go to Australia... Motion Dynaimics 60:1. DMAX
Hi, I was going to use 10K wirewound pots (that's the end game) hall effect are just better and infinitely spin. I would still order the 987-1392-ND part from DIGIKEY. If shipping is the issue, just search google for similar SENSOR ROTARY 180DEG SLDR TURRET.. hope that helps
Hello Thiago! Thanks for the comment.. I'm just finishing up a series on 3DOF build compact motion sim.. From 'scratch" check it out and I have a few Simtools Pro licenses to give a way .. so be sure to Check out video 8 and 9 for how to win.. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_ Dave
Thanks for this video! Liked and subscribed. Great job and great info. I've wanted to build a motion simulator for flight sims for years, your video has helped me get closer to actually taking the plunge.
Thanks for commenting Jim. A lot of people don't. There are a lot of videos on my channel to help out also check out my x-simulator.net page build. I should be dropping a few new videos soon. DMAX
Absolutely awesome work dude. Looking into building one myself and getting ideas for making the yaw axis so I only need 4 motors instead of 5 on the sfx100. Well shot and made video! Hope you're enjoying it
Hey manoj.. I used 12Volt crab pot pullers from EBAY.. I have a whole build explanation on x-simulator.net www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
Yeah. It took maybe 10 min.. and I used a few squirts of oil. but yes.. That way the bolt just screws all the way through to the other side.. Just take your time on it.. I heard about people pounding them in with a hammer but I did not want to do that. Dave
Yeah 45Mang.. that's a great question.. Ok so you set up the Arduino memory program using SMC3.. Then all motors are able to be influenced at 35,000 times per second by the game telemetry output.. So There you go.. motors are sycnched to whatever game you are playing (most top level racing - flight etc games) I have a lot more on the channel on how to do it.. DMAX
You bet it would Spartan! I will probably be getting a flight sim game soon to test it out.. I did put in on the rollercoaster tycoon II and in VR, it was EPIC! DMAX
Thanks for the question and comment Morgan. Yes, Yes they are.. Even if you just get one and sync it to the gear shift and curbs, it's worth it.. I have a video on the site on how to set it them up too if your interested. But yeah once you get them working, you wont want to run your rig without them.. just saying.. Dave
Thanks my friend!.. Acutally doing a new series right now 3DOF compact motion sim.. I'm working on episode 7 and have 6 of them posted to you tube. It's step by step.. so take a look if you have time! dave
With the larger motors looks like you could use longer arms to more motion travel. Wonder if they can handle the torque and speed to get more motion? I'm sure there is a max travel. Probably limited by speed of the motors. Does yours provide enough travel or do you think more would be better?
Thanks for the comment and after driving it pretty hard for about two years, the two motors that move the upper frame have plenty of power and I don't think altering the levers is needed. They are 5 inch CTC. But If I wanted to drift a bit more, I would increase the Traction loss lever from 7 inches to maybe 10 and see if I get a little more sideways action.. They are fine at 7 - but there's always room to experiment!
Very cool and thanks for sharing. Can you give an estimate on costs related to your 3 dof solution. I am also curious how you created the tension rods that connect to the motors and back of the seat frame. Keep going!
Thanks for the question and comment Rob.. The tie rods are just 1/2 in conduit.. I bought some left and right hand tie rod ends from amazon and just pushed them into the open conduit.. then tack weled.. Here is a video on the costs.. ruclips.net/video/4cTyjsvO-i8/видео.html
That’s awesome!! I didn’t know I neeed to make one until you showed up on my feed 😂 I can figure out the building part, but what software do I need make it go live?
Thanks for watching my friend! Ok.. so I have several series on these different rigs from a-z and in each series I try and go over the SMC3 software and Simtools.. Those are what make the motors and your rig move with the game telemetry.. I'm going to do another video on them in the latest series, I just have not got there yet.. But for now.. Here a link to a Specific video. Using 24 volt motors but it's the same with 12 volt motors.. ruclips.net/video/KrTEpgaQViQ/видео.html
Hello Donkey Dem.. Appreciate the comment for sure.. Sometimes YT does not notify me if someone comments, which kinda sucks so sorry about that.. Yeah The game Is Assetto corsa. The games that the motion rig can support are here on this link so If you want to build one of these things, there is a pretty good community around it.. www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/ Check back in if you have time.. I'm trying to post something cool once a week. Dave
thanks Bro! I want to build from 0 knowledge. make rig, buttkickers, subwoofer uder seat, 5.4sub audio etc. simple Things. In future plan. cut half car with front windows and 2seats 3screen/projectors. use this like base for simple motion. active light mayby. thats the plan. thank you for share this. respect Bro👊✌️💪
Cool ideas. I am working on the zero to seat mover series now. Should be out soon. If you can handle VR, it will save you a ton of hassle cutting a car apart. That's what I use.. So the motion platoform has less weight to throw around.. Never worry about screens if you can take VR.. DMAX
Appreciate the comment my friend! Just about to post up another video in the COMPACT simulator series.. Working on it this week, should be out in a few days if you have time to take a look.. Dave
Thanks my friend! Just check out the channel, it's a bit on the 'mental' side as you will see but If "I" can do it, I'm sure that "YOU" can probably do it better! DMAX
Great video! I have a question. Is this only possible with one game or also with completely different ones like Flight Simulator, Tank Simulator etc.?? How does the engine know the movements of the steering wheel/joystick - left, right, up, down? Where does he get the data from? How does this work in simple terms? Thank you, Thomas
Great questions and fantastic comment my friend! To be brief, the game telemetry data is sent from the game via usb to the arduino. So flight controls, steering controls, breaking, shooting stuff whatever all comes down that telemetry pipeline. There is a small program called a plug in, which is available depending on which game you want that reads the data and sends it to the arduino. The arduino reads the data in real time and adjusts the motor positions using the IBT-2 motor controllers. Everything starts to come alive after you turn up the Pulse width on the motors. There are many videos about it and I've done a few myself. It's a great project and absolutely works.. Dave
It’d b much appreciated if you mentioned the specifications of the motors and your hydraulics in detail because i was planning on building one and also the technic you used to integrate it with the arduino and your IDE configuration
I Neba.. Just click on the picture for my channel.. I have many many detailed tutorials on how to build these, run the SMC3 software and Simtools to get you moving.. Plus just look in the description of the channel I have the parts listed with links.. ruclips.net/channel/UCVaC4nPhsTa9BRKjQFhf1kw
Awesome content. I was into arduino during pandemic too so i know about arduino and bts motor drivers now. But i cant do this on my apartment lol but i will check out your videos anyway. Thx for sharing!
Not sure if you are still repling to this vid but thought I'd try, Ive been looking for a couple of years on and off even considering buying the next level v3 motion sim but then I saw your dog and explanation and knew straight away is what I want, couple of questions if that's OK - 1- cannot get the crab pot motors here in uk without crazy postage, would three wheelchair motors work, 2- How is the rear motion loss fixed, is is two rods horizontal fixed to the motor. 3- I use my sim mainly for DCS world, have you tried motion loss in a flight sim. Kind rgds
Just happen to be looking and replying so here we go my friend.. Ok.. so I did a build with 24 volt wheelchair motors.. turned out ok using the ITB2 and arduino.. Mine ended up being 18:1 ratio which is not ideal.. The higher the ratio the better.. like 50:1 would be great. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_ I have a new series on mounting the TL motor just take a look at the 'compact motion sim' it should have a few good videos on how to 'hook it up'. I have NOT used the sim for FLIGHT.. but I have ILK2 in my near future.. Just cant wait to go flying! Thanks for the comment.. Dave
Hi and thanks for the question. They are 50:1 12volt 'crab pot pullers' The vendor is PGSAW in canada on Ebay. I definitely recommend in this type of setup. plenty of power. DMAX
Thanks for the comment Travis. Ok the buttkickers were well worth it! I liked them so much I got two - one for front and one for back. I did a video on setting them up with free simhub software, but they work with other software too. If they are not 'on' it feels like something is wrong with the rig.. Pretty good stuff. DMAX
Hi Dave, first of all I have to say I think it's terrific what you've created. I am totally enthusiastic and would like to build myself such a motion simulator. The first question I have is, how did you determine the dimensions of your rig? Did you take a template from the web? Or what are the dimensions of your rig? Before I buy the necessary square tubes, I should know what quantity I need. To the square tubes still the question, what thickness do they have? I would have taken tubes with 1.5748" x 1.5748" for the main frame and 1.1811" x 1.1811" for the seat construction, each with a thickness of 0.12". Sorry, in Germany we have other size specifications and I have now simply converted them via Google. Greetz David
So I posted most of the build here and a few pages in someone asked me for the measurments so I added a bunch of photos for that..www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
Cool video Dave, I will check the rest of them out to see how you solved certain problems. Do you suggest any helpful forums for a build? Do you have any detailed schematics for your Arduino wiring? Can it interface with any racing/sim game or just a special game MADE for simtools software? Have you thought about getting the actual dash from a car you love? You can easily connect this up to an Arduino and use the CANBUS network to power and rev the gauges - it's what I'll do if I ever get close the finishing a build, but would look really cool for you to add. If you give it a search you'll find the libraries and guides of how to do it. Sorry about the question overload, I feel like this will be my next project :) I am also thinking about maybe a removable dash bit, where one could be a car and another a jet that you could just swap - as I love the flight sims to, how practical do you think this could be ? Perhaps 6dof needed for a jet setup?
Hi Big Steve, Great questions. Yep I used the xsimulator.net forum for pretty much all you were asking. here is a link to the schematic page www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/smc3-arduino-3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/ here is a link to my build on x-simulator.net www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/ That should get you heading in the right direction. I'm using VR so I always have the correct dash for whatever car I am driving.. VR is great and was a game changer for me. I'm looking into building a 6 DOF maybe this winter.. Thanks again for the questions.. DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY thanks a lot Dave you've saved me a long search. Very cool stuff. Would you say VR is way better experience for the racing Sims? How about motion sickness? Is it lessened because you're actually moving because I've had some sickening times on some of those vr games! 😂 For the reasons above I am wary of the VR and you also are lacking peripheral without looking. What do you think about the feasiblity of a 180 degree curved projector panel that's attached to the frame and moves with it. There is a projector project like this on RUclips but not incorporating any dof, seems an interesting challenge And finally, if you could do this build different what would you change about it if you were to do it again. Thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge. Steve, UK
@@bigsteve6729 Ok Big Steve, Apparently YT never notified me you commented.. But Yes I had a single monitor stationary. then I hooked it to the rig. Stationary hooked to the motion was WAY better. Then I tried Triple monitors I think they were like 24".. It was EPIC.. but I already had Oculus Rift CV1 and was a bit scared to try it.. I manned up and hooked it up. HOLY CRAP!! Way better than triples with the motion.. I don't get motion sick easily and you might find me 'surfing' and all diving in the ocean or whatever. But I would suggest if you have a 1080 card and at least an I7 with 32GB ram, VR should be fine.. Go all in.. my motto is 'if it's worth doing.. it's worth OVER doing' .. All the best my friend ! DMAX
I just got off a cruise ship that had motion sim racing setups and I now want one but the specific ones they had were $77k a piece so my ingenuity is getting the better of me and now I want to build one
Same here.. You can build one yourself.. Lot and lots of guys have done it.. I'm working on a new one right now in fact! Here is my newer series ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
I have been sim racing for over 10 years ..and I'm very good with my tools .time to start my dof. Chassis
Sounds Great my friend! I tell ya, adding that traction loss frame is the bomb! I would not have it any other way now.. (except a 6DOF!) Thanks for the comment! DMAX
You are heaven sent! Ive been looking for someone that actually shares information. Im Gonna make one to play racing with my son in vr
Abram! Awesome to hear and thanks for the comment my friend! I try to share as much as I remember to! But cant remember it all so feel free to subscribe and ask questions! It may take me a few hours to reply 'cause I work and stuff.. but You're welcome anytime! DMAX
I love the u-joint idea!!!! Brilliant
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yeah, super strong - just weld it in.. good to go.. DMAX
This is where i would start my research on motion sim. this is a well made video. Thank u sir, u are awesome
That's a fantastic comment. Great idea to get the scope of work understood. Hope you get time to check out more of the videos I have.. they are all about building your own motion simulator. Also check the x-simulator.net forum. That's where I started my research and tons of info there. Dave
yes sir finally i had some great infos from your videos regarding building using 2 motors. gonna start with 2 DOF. watching yours easily fed my mind with the idea
@@lemboizzz Great.. It's fantastic once you get it running my friend! If you have any questions, just post them here and hopefully I can see them and answer them DMAx
Sooooo few people with the ability to do this stuff in a real way that there is so little in the way of basic info. Thanks for this it gets me started at least knowing where to start getting things together.
Great Comment and observation.. Yeah. 3 years ago I barely knew what any of these things were.. I did a bit a poking around on YT and found X simulator.net. Used the info to build my first motion sim. I had no idea what any of this was except I did like Grand Turismo on the play station with a controller but watching a few things made me think.. I can do that too - but didnt see any videos on it.. - So there we go. I decided to post up some stuff cause it worked pretty good. I have a new video coming out in the next couple days on the COMPACT simulator . Hope you have time to watch.. I'm working on the edit right now. And thanks for your comment.. Keeps me plugged in and helps me remember to keep posting stuff. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY have you looked into / found / built anything using the piston style D box style ? I’m really thinking that’s the way to go as that seems to be the most popular and highly touted motion platform these days. If I can find the hardware ( I haven’t started really trying yet ) and there are software solutions to use it (which clearly there are) then I may try to go that route. Any suggestions or have you come across other DIY piston style ? I don’t really know what else to call them. But it’s what D box uses , one on each corner of the rig.
@@SticksAandstonesBozo so I used to mess around with a lot of pneumatic actuators back when I was involved in the Halloween Fright scene.. a long time ago. So I do read about these (electrical screw assemblies (as opposed to pneumatics) and I see the benefits. I would suggest looking up " six degrees of flight" - on YT he has not posted in a while but he was using this type of actuator.. also I am in contact with "MOTION simulators" on YT and sort of on Facebook, which I dont look at that often.. Many of those guys are building the same things.. 3 DOF, 6 DOF etc using the DIY actuators. I just have not had a chance to bite off that much yet.. YET.. Let me know if you need links to their channels.. ALL the best my friend> Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Ive been looking at stuff from him and you but just now going to actually start working on a setup. Thanks for the info and the videos.
@@SticksAandstonesBozo Cool.. here is my new video if you want to take a look.. ruclips.net/video/UXS45Z2GHMk/видео.html
Major kudos to you. 👍
Thanks my friend! More to come - stay tuned!
@@DMAX_DIY I’m watching! 👍😎
Awesome. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your comment! More to come! DMAX
Awesome video. So many of us have gone through something similar over the past year and a half. I Personally went from a Thrustmaster wheel attached to a laptop stand in front of the TV to a full cockpit with DD wheel butt kicker VR etc. A buddy of mine in his 60's has 2 full rigs now and is contemplating a 3rd lol. What you have done here is inspiring.
DANG!! Yep I know what you mean Travis! It's so cool when you put your willpower into making something better! I appreciate your comment my friend! I'm still improving the rig for better response but not posted any of those videos yet.. Thanks so much for commenting.. It DOES mean a lot! DMAX
Brilliant mate
Thanks my friend! Appreciate you takin a look.. More to come! Dave
2:15: that's one of the simplest and most inspiring pics i have seen - thank you. Oh, the rest of the vid is great as well.
Thanks my friend.. Quite a few people have been able to make the jump to motion recently.. Thanks for commenting.. DMAX
A good teacher can break down a complicated subject in a way that anyone can understand. Great job 👍
Thanks for the comment and the LIKE. I really appreciate it! - BTW did you ever get that Rollercoaster SIM working again. Rollercoaster tycoon, that is.. This type of Rig can run off the data - And with the WIND SIM.. Should be great! DMAX
For someone that's never welded before, your welds look awesome man. 👌... sweet racing rig.
Thanks Gear Jammer.. (nice name btw). DMAX
Great video
Thanks Kenneth! I appreciate you taking a look! Check back! DMAX
DMAX your the best man! Thank you soo much for shairing your knowledge and project details thats soo important for sim comunty to have that type of examples. Wish you best
Thanks so much for this overview. When i get some time I would love to build one and this broke it down into easy pieces to understand what I would need to do. When i look at your rig, it looks so complicated, but actually its just simple steps. Really hoping this video gets some traction as you have some great content.
Thanks for taking a look! It's really just a bunch of parts that work together pretty well. Takes a little time to build it. But by making it yourself, if something acts weird, you know what it is and it's usually pretty cheap to fix. If something goes haywire with a commercial rig, you have to send it in. We all pretty much use the same components anyway (from what I can see). In any case, this thing is an absolute blast to drive in VR. Now with the Wind Sim, it's even Cooler haha DMAX😀
SirSpats - I'll be doing this asap. plz stay in touch
@@roddy6924 Thanks Guys! Comments are awesome! DMAX
this must be mass produced! 😍😍👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Thanks for the comment my friend! I do appreciate it! Glad you liked the videos. DMAX
I love your attitude
Jonny! Thanks for the comment! You should see me racing the rig.. It's an absolute blast! DMAX
This is my new favours channel! I never thought this was possibly diy but you’ve inspired me to begin my own research.
Cheers
Thanks Nicholas! That's so COOL! Yeah.. Just click on a few of my videos and check out the info everyone has posted on x-simulator.net.. You'll be moving soon! Incredible.. hard to describe.. Other than it's like actually being IN the car.. DMAX
What a cool video! 🙌
1 more being posted tonight.. should be the best motion simulator tutorial ever made.. I'm uploading it now.. Check it out if you have time.. Dave
Brilliant!!
Thanks my friend! It's a game changer once you get these things working! I am posting a series of videos now which would take you through the whole thing if you want to take a look.. here is the link.. Thanks for the comment! There's like 4 videos on it step by step.. I'm just finishing up the last one ruclips.net/video/5Du7pbOSe_Y/видео.html DMAX
Well done sir!
Thanks my friend! More to come soon.. DMAX
So cool
Thanks for taking a look Joshua! I appreciate it! I posted quite a few motion sim build videos - hope they help someone out! DMAX
Awesome! Love the motor solution
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yeah it works pretty great! I'm racing it tomorrow for sure! DMAX
Awesome job but may I suggest finding someone w/ experience in high end electronic installs (home theater, car audio/ video, etc) to help clean up your wiring a bit. I've found a second set of eyes is always beneficial especially on longer term projects.
Incredible ingenuity nonetheless!
Juan, You are probably right.. But these are both just 'test' simulators. super basic and just testing parts out to see what happens.. I actually plan on building a real motion rig and building in wiring tunnels etc into the frames but have not started that project yet..
Soon though, I'll concentrate on getting things a bit more 'permanent' Thanks for the comment! Dave
Love this!
Cool my friend! Thanks for the comment! DMAX
tumb uppp ....u did a great job..... awesome
Thanks Mohd Rafie.. I appreciate it. Just having some fun, might as well show folks !! DMAX
inspiring!! thanks!!
Thanks for the comment my friend! DMAX
Great content bro', that was a fun watch!✌😎
Thanks for taking a look Ted.. I appreciate the comments! DMAX
Love your shirt: 'real cars don't shift themselves'. Unfortunately given how the vast majority of car owners don't drive a car with a real transmission, the point is lost in them. But hey, real drivers get it. Cheers on a very nice rig.
Hahah! Nice.. yea.. it is what it is.. Love the gated shifter myself.. but building a new rig and have a new series on it.. (going to try paddle shifters) I'm still old school but will give it a shot.. here is the new series if you want to take a look SLA55.. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
Awesome build. I drive in VR too, but no motion or buttkickers yet. Hope I have (make) the time to build motion someday.
Thanks! Yeah, VR is considerably more immersive than not having it! Keep pluggin away and have fun! dave
That's awesome man. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comment my friend! DMAX
very cool man i dont got any of the skills u got for this loll u fr came to a motion chair not knowing crap and some how just know how to do the tec stuff lol and even learned to weld
That ok my brother.. I didn't know how to do much before 2020 I was driving on a desk with my old Driving force wheel.. Did not even know this stuff existed till I got bored and starting looking a youtube.. amazing stuff people make.. I just wanted to be 'get some of that' for myself.. Thanks for the comment! DMAX
I just finished building really good and works great👌
Fantastic my friend! I've got a couple new series out if you need any more inspiration.. 2023 and all that ! Dave
NICE. I may have to give this a shot!
Mike, It took a little while to build but man was it worth it!! DMAX
Great vid mate
Thanks FVRFactor! I appreciate the comment! DMAX
man im looking at making my own now this is cool
Thanks for the comment my friend. Lot of great info on the xsimulator.net forum on this build and others and lot of links in the description so be sure to take a look at those too..! DMAX
Hey D Max, I'm from Germany and was looking for a DIY motion solution when I came across your video. It's the most genuine, down-to-earth, and coolest solution I've found so far. Definitely ranks at the top of the methods I'm considering. Since the video is already 3 years old, I wanted to ask if you're still active and if you could possibly offer some guidance. Wish you all the best.
This looks powerful. I’m a machinist with some welder buddies and would love to make one of these!
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yeah, motion rigs are way too cool. I absolutely love it. Making another one right now - a setmover project - for anyone who want motion, but not a full frame. DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY Subscribed! Would you mind elaborating what translates the signal from the game to the motors for the motion? I am also a machinist and I want to build one and my biggest holdback is not understanding what's making the motion. Is it software? How do you know how many pulses of the motor to create the desired motion? Am i overthinking it?
Epic. I just bought Logitech wheel and pedals for vr racing and built an mdf sim cockpit to hold it all. Now I’m looking at 3dof rig too. All in one week 😂
Yeah the Logitech wheel and pedal setup are very light.. When I swapped over to the Fanatec.. way way heavier.. I had to re-balance the rig..
Fantastic project! I love seeing projects like this.
Thanks for the Comment my friend! I got more of this project to come so check back if you can! DMAX
Good shit man!
Thanks my friend! Yeah it's a blast in VR! DMAX
This is awesome. Once I upgrade to a better pc I think I'm gonna build one of these. I built my own rig from wood and I love it even though it's not a motion Sim.
Nice! Tell you what though.. you dont need a very good pc to run the motion. I have a couple series where I used the worst laptop and it runs the game and the motion system at the same time.. The real reason to get the better PC would be for using VR which takes a lot of resourses.. The motion programs require hardly any processing power as all they do is read the game telemetry I/O
@@DMAX_DIY I plan to get a better pc to run assetto corsa since all I can run is live for speed at the moment and then get vr and then build a motion rig at some point. I also need to get a better wheel setup since I'm using a Logitech g920. It's a great wheel but when I'm drifting it just barely keeps up.
Ok Guys! I'm making a new 3 video 'series' on how to upgrade your 'static' rig to a seat mover so check back on this channel and as always, leave a few comments! DMAX
Thanks! I'm just getting the idea to build one and I knew there was a cheap solution!
This is my first time, got this…”
OH GOD. GOOD LUCK.
Welcome to the world of welding! Yeah it holds, but the look will start bothering you IF NOT PERFECT. Seriously this will hit you hard!
Yeah.. the look bothers me.. That Surprisingly the welds actually held up for 3 years so far. Which great because there is a lot of stress on these joints. Much more comfortable welding now after 3 years since this vid.. But now your right.. Dave
#DaleYeah 🤘🏻🏁
Thanks for the comment my friend! DMAX
Would love to build something like this. I have a decent rig and motion is all that's missing now. Huge respect for you putting this together yourself and making it from scratch
Hello Andy! Thanks for the comment.. I'm just finishing up a series on 3DOF build compact motion sim.. From 'scratch" check it out and I have a few Simtools Pro liscences to give a way .. so be sure to Check out video 8 and 9 for how to win.. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
Dave
@@DMAX_DIYhow much do you think parts would cost?
@@saadabdullah4245 here is a video on the cost - take a look if you have time Dave ruclips.net/video/4cTyjsvO-i8/видео.html
This is really awesome. I love it so much. Thanks for sharing my Racing brother. You are a true Racing fan and a Legend. Cheers and stay awesome.
Cool post my friend! I'll have something good soon.! DMAX motion sim ch
Amazing video! clean welds for someone who never welded before
Haha! not very clean for sure.. but they seem to work if I dont burn through the metal.. Getting better at.. Appreciate your comments my friend! DMAX
Great video my friend congratulations on your build
Thanks for watching my friend.. Just posted up a new series.. 3DOF compact sim for Direct Drive wheels.. Take a look if you have time.. Dave
Beautiful.. Interested in doing this for my Next Level Racing rig (1st gen) . Glad to see your VR.. That is the only way to go these days.
Yeah my friend! YT did not notify me of your comment until now .. 4 weeks later.. Crazy.. VR is definitely the way to go.. Absolutely love it! That NLR rig would be pretty dang cool to modify for motion.. Just saying! Keep me posted! DMAX
very nice！ great video
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it ! DMAX
I just wanted to say thank you for the vid, it was really well made and intriguing, it has me wanting to create something lol
Thanks for the comment and the kudos! Yeah I've been working on these things for a few years now and hopefully you can find time to watch my other videos.. I'm working on a 'compact' frame now which should have a smaller 'footprint'.. but bring the same responsiveness.. Dave
Definitely gonna be subscribing and hopefully building a sim soon with ur videos
Thanks! There's a new one I'm working on right now. should be out in a week or so.. Here's the latest series link.. Dave ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
Omg. Dude that's an awesome build. Would be so cool using that with a VR headset at the same time. Full virtual reality.
Edited. I just looked in the videos. You already thought of it 🤣
Dead Side.. Thanks for the comment my friend.. Yeah It's so friggin cool.. I just love it! Pretty real and allows me to 'almost' drive expensive cars! DMAX
when start. I try ask you for advice. see on truck somewhere 😀
Been working on the series for a little while now should be out soon. DMAX
Excellent. How do you move the skate board wheels. Thanks.
Thanks for the question. The wheels are there just to support the weight of the rig and simply roll when the traction loss motor moves the mid frame. Hope that helps.. I also have a video on the traction loss on my home page..
@@DMAX_DIY Thanks that is brill
Hello from far Ukraine! Just saw your video. Awesome job! Definitely will build a copy of your design! PS: I'm making a DIY steering wheel using old pc wheel and changing 2 microcontrollers: Arduino Leonardo and STM32 BluePill right now. 3D printed 8 speed h-shifter. Pedals are still printing. Budget is 40$. Without Force feedback right now.
Oh that's awesome! Nice! Thanks for the comments my friend! I posted the build on x-simulator.net if you want to check out more www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
hope you are well wherever you are
I gotta agree with Julien.. I hope your ok my friend.. Dave
@@e90julien Yeah.. I was just looking and Oh Crap.. He's from Ukraine.. I wrote him .. hope he's ok..
very cool!
Thanks! It's a blast to drive in VR!! DMAX
Very cool. Waiting for my PS5 to arrive, just got the PSVR2 headset and going with the G29 wheel for now. Tonight while looking at reviews I came across this YAW seat and 2 or 3 DOF. It's like this is a great idea, wonder if I can build it myself. Poof, here's D Max (thought Duramax at first) and his own ideas. Now I'm thinking why can't I build my own wheel and stuff? Ok maybe not while I'm working overseas but when I retire in 18 months or so. Party on Garth. Thanks!!!
Ok cool I'm have 22 months till retire. Made some videos on how to have fun and connect with the gang if you want. Here's the channel page.. which has all the videos
ruclips.net/channel/UCVaC4nPhsTa9BRKjQFhf1kw
Here's my Road Rage series where you can ask questions and I try to answer them:
ruclips.net/video/-pFdI5eKO70/видео.html
All the best Hope you can watch a few on my site Dave
I found you through learning how to make the basic motor setup. I am going for a VR superbike. I already have gymnastics pads for my room scale. I broke my foot once and my hand 2 times. I have the Open wheeler frame with G29. It needs motion too. Cool setup
Great comment Gopherchucks.. I cant seem to wrap my head around motion for a bike.. Not yet.. So I subscribed to a channel Chris Beeves.. www.youtube.com/@ChrisBeeves he did make a motion simulator for superbikes.. Take a look . Might be helpful.. Dave
Love the video. I most likely am gonna go break through your videos and try to copy this myself cause id rather build one then buy one haha
Thanks Isaac Christie. It's been fun.. And it's been working for like 3 years now.. no real issues.. I race it every weekend too! Thanks for the comment! DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY awesome so I know its really reliable. Right now i spend a couple hours jimmy rigging my desk with some materials i got from work(construction). So once i make this itll be a lot nicer
@@Odysseus38 Cool.. I did that too.. with triples on the bench.. Till I got the VR.. then it was game over till I heard about DIY a motion rig.. If you go to xsimulator.net.. there is a ton of guys there building all sorts of rigs. Thats where you get the Plug ins and all that.. It's legit.. No issues - Just guys trying to build stuff for simulators. Hope you take a look. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY thats so cool, and this community for sim racing seems amazing so far. Like you dont need to be rich to get into it and its not super snobby either. I love how much diy stuff there is out there to do. I cant wait to do all sorts of Ardiuno stuff with sim racing
@@Odysseus38 Well you hit the nail on the head .. Yes.. Yes YES.. It's dang cool.. pretty inexpensive.. The arduino makes it pretty easy. and all the programing is already done so Off we go ! Check back my friend! Dave
huge thanks from China! we will build one for our game~
amazing man
Thanks! I appreciate it! Lots of Lockdown fun waiting to be had.. DMAX
I am going to build this too.
@@thevirtualgamegod It takes a little while to make, but once those motors move you, forget it!! It's ON! and you cant stop having fun! DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY whats the motor model ?
@@thevirtualgamegod 50:1 12volt motors just search Ebay for GEAR MOTOR 12 VOLT GREAT FOR SAWMILL/CRAB POT PULL/FEED/SIMULATOR 75-80RPM 50:1 (sold by PGSAW in Canada)
Just put in "GEAR MOTOR 12 VOLT GREAT FOR SAWMILL/CRAB POT PULL/FEED/SIMULATOR 75-80RPM 50:1 " in Ebay.
They ship from Canada.. It takes about a week and a half to get them in the USA..
I really like them but if you want more powerful motors, you need to go to Australia... Motion Dynaimics 60:1. DMAX
You just gave me a lot of confidence in making my own
Thanks alot i apriciate your work.what else potentiameter can i use instead of 6127V1A180L.5FS
Hi, I was going to use 10K wirewound pots (that's the end game) hall effect are just better and infinitely spin. I would still order the 987-1392-ND part from DIGIKEY. If shipping is the issue, just search google for similar SENSOR ROTARY 180DEG SLDR TURRET.. hope that helps
Absolutely amazing. Nice work done mate!!!!
Hello Thiago! Thanks for the comment.. I'm just finishing up a series on 3DOF build compact motion sim.. From 'scratch" check it out and I have a few Simtools Pro licenses to give a way .. so be sure to Check out video 8 and 9 for how to win.. ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
Dave
Thanks for this video! Liked and subscribed. Great job and great info. I've wanted to build a motion simulator for flight sims for years, your video has helped me get closer to actually taking the plunge.
Thanks for commenting Jim. A lot of people don't. There are a lot of videos on my channel to help out also check out my x-simulator.net page build. I should be dropping a few new videos soon. DMAX
incredible!!... just miss a little of painting
Thanks my friend! I appreciate it.. Not sure if I am 'finished' with it yet.. so wont paint it till it's in the final iteration. But it's real close!
Absolutely awesome work dude. Looking into building one myself and getting ideas for making the yaw axis so I only need 4 motors instead of 5 on the sfx100. Well shot and made video! Hope you're enjoying it
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yeah I drive it every chance I get! Traction loss is awesome! Dave
Hello friends it is very nice
Can I know witch type of motor U used
Hey manoj.. I used 12Volt crab pot pullers from EBAY.. I have a whole build explanation on x-simulator.net www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
Dave, did you have to Tap (add threads) the hole all the way through ?
Yeah. It took maybe 10 min.. and I used a few squirts of oil. but yes.. That way the bolt just screws all the way through to the other side.. Just take your time on it.. I heard about people pounding them in with a hammer but I did not want to do that. Dave
Love every bit of this! Just curious how to program/synch the motors to the motion…
Yeah 45Mang.. that's a great question.. Ok so you set up the Arduino memory program using SMC3.. Then all motors are able to be influenced at 35,000 times per second by the game telemetry output.. So There you go.. motors are sycnched to whatever game you are playing (most top level racing - flight etc games) I have a lot more on the channel on how to do it.. DMAX
Really awesome work! Great rig build and nice channel!! :D
Thanks for the comment my friend! This VR stuff is EPIC! Motion? Forget it! Double EPIC! DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY Oh yes!! XD
Great job! Awesome! Thank you so much 🙂👍🏼
Thanks for the comment Alejandro.. I appreciate you watching.. Dave
Looks awesome! It would be cool to have a similar setup for a flight simulator.
You bet it would Spartan! I will probably be getting a flight sim game soon to test it out.. I did put in on the rollercoaster tycoon II and in VR, it was EPIC! DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY I believe it, best of luck with that!
Dang, i wish i was just enjoying myself one day with a dfgt and next thing I know, im building a motion rig with upgraded sim gear
Thanks for the comments! Happened to me for sure! Minding my own business then BAM! Into the deep end! Turned out great! DMAX
This is sick! are the butt kickers worth it for you?
Thanks for the question and comment Morgan. Yes, Yes they are.. Even if you just get one and sync it to the gear shift and curbs, it's worth it.. I have a video on the site on how to set it them up too if your interested. But yeah once you get them working, you wont want to run your rig without them.. just saying.. Dave
awesome!!!
Thanks my friend!.. Acutally doing a new series right now 3DOF compact motion sim.. I'm working on episode 7 and have 6 of them posted to you tube. It's step by step.. so take a look if you have time! dave
With the larger motors looks like you could use longer arms to more motion travel. Wonder if they can handle the torque and speed to get more motion? I'm sure there is a max travel. Probably limited by speed of the motors. Does yours provide enough travel or do you think more would be better?
Thanks for the comment and after driving it pretty hard for about two years, the two motors that move the upper frame have plenty of power and I don't think altering the levers is needed. They are 5 inch CTC. But If I wanted to drift a bit more, I would increase the Traction loss lever from 7 inches to maybe 10 and see if I get a little more sideways action.. They are fine at 7 - but there's always room to experiment!
Very cool and thanks for sharing. Can you give an estimate on costs related to your 3 dof solution. I am also curious how you created the tension rods that connect to the motors and back of the seat frame.
Keep going!
Thanks for the question and comment Rob.. The tie rods are just 1/2 in conduit.. I bought some left and right hand tie rod ends from amazon and just pushed them into the open conduit.. then tack weled.. Here is a video on the costs.. ruclips.net/video/4cTyjsvO-i8/видео.html
That’s awesome!! I didn’t know I neeed to make one until you showed up on my feed 😂 I can figure out the building part, but what software do I need make it go live?
Thanks for watching my friend! Ok.. so I have several series on these different rigs from a-z and in each series I try and go over the SMC3 software and Simtools.. Those are what make the motors and your rig move with the game telemetry.. I'm going to do another video on them in the latest series, I just have not got there yet.. But for now.. Here a link to a Specific video. Using 24 volt motors but it's the same with 12 volt motors..
ruclips.net/video/KrTEpgaQViQ/видео.html
@@DMAX_DIY thank you so much! I can’t wait to watch all that. 🍻
Great video. Thank you for your time and talent. What is the game are you playing in VR? 6:44 on your video, I don’t recognize that game for VR.
Hello Donkey Dem.. Appreciate the comment for sure.. Sometimes YT does not notify me if someone comments, which kinda sucks so sorry about that.. Yeah The game Is Assetto corsa. The games that the motion rig can support are here on this link so If you want to build one of these things, there is a pretty good community around it.. www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/ Check back in if you have time.. I'm trying to post something cool once a week. Dave
thanks Bro! I want to build from 0 knowledge. make rig, buttkickers, subwoofer uder seat, 5.4sub audio etc. simple Things. In future plan. cut half car with front windows and 2seats 3screen/projectors. use this like base for simple motion. active light mayby. thats the plan. thank you for share this. respect Bro👊✌️💪
Cool ideas. I am working on the zero to seat mover series now. Should be out soon. If you can handle VR, it will save you a ton of hassle cutting a car apart. That's what I use.. So the motion platoform has less weight to throw around.. Never worry about screens if you can take VR.. DMAX
Nice job
Appreciate the comment my friend! Just about to post up another video in the COMPACT simulator series.. Working on it this week, should be out in a few days if you have time to take a look.. Dave
Wao, I want to build the same!
Thanks my friend! Just check out the channel, it's a bit on the 'mental' side as you will see but If "I" can do it, I'm sure that "YOU" can probably do it better! DMAX
Nice
Thanks! I try find time to race a few times a week. It's pretty immersive! Love the Wind Sim addition in VR! DMAX
Its cool i love it
Thanks my friend! It so much fun.. I race it every Saturday on line.. It's way cooler than I can describe! DMAX
Great video! I have a question. Is this only possible with one game or also with completely different ones like Flight Simulator, Tank Simulator etc.?? How does the engine know the movements of the steering wheel/joystick - left, right, up, down? Where does he get the data from? How does this work in simple terms? Thank you, Thomas
Great questions and fantastic comment my friend! To be brief, the game telemetry data is sent from the game via usb to the arduino. So flight controls, steering controls, breaking, shooting stuff whatever all comes down that telemetry pipeline. There is a small program called a plug in, which is available depending on which game you want that reads the data and sends it to the arduino. The arduino reads the data in real time and adjusts the motor positions using the IBT-2 motor controllers. Everything starts to come alive after you turn up the Pulse width on the motors. There are many videos about it and I've done a few myself. It's a great project and absolutely works.. Dave
very Cool !!!!!
Thanks my friend! I appreciate the comment.. Keeps me going! Dave
Great vid
Thanks! Appreciate the Comment! DMAX👽
It’d b much appreciated if you mentioned the specifications of the motors and your hydraulics in detail because i was planning on building one and also the technic you used to integrate it with the arduino and your IDE configuration
I Neba.. Just click on the picture for my channel.. I have many many detailed tutorials on how to build these, run the SMC3 software and Simtools to get you moving.. Plus just look in the description of the channel I have the parts listed with links..
ruclips.net/channel/UCVaC4nPhsTa9BRKjQFhf1kw
Awesome content. I was into arduino during pandemic too so i know about arduino and bts motor drivers now. But i cant do this on my apartment lol but i will check out your videos anyway. Thx for sharing!
Thanks Wally19. I will keep posting stuff for sure. Nice to hear someone else with the same idea. Stay tuned for more videos if you can.. DMAX
Not sure if you are still repling to this vid but thought I'd try, Ive been looking for a couple of years on and off even considering buying the next level v3 motion sim but then I saw your dog and explanation and knew straight away is what I want, couple of questions if that's OK -
1- cannot get the crab pot motors here in uk without crazy postage, would three wheelchair motors work,
2- How is the rear motion loss fixed, is is two rods horizontal fixed to the motor.
3- I use my sim mainly for DCS world, have you tried motion loss in a flight sim.
Kind rgds
Just happen to be looking and replying so here we go my friend.. Ok.. so I did a build with 24 volt wheelchair motors.. turned out ok using the ITB2 and arduino.. Mine ended up being 18:1 ratio which is not ideal.. The higher the ratio the better.. like 50:1 would be great.
ruclips.net/p/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_
I have a new series on mounting the TL motor just take a look at the 'compact motion sim' it should have a few good videos on how to 'hook it up'. I have NOT used the sim for FLIGHT.. but I have ILK2 in my near future.. Just cant wait to go flying! Thanks for the comment.. Dave
Really impressed. What is the specs on the servo motors that you used?
Hi and thanks for the question. They are 50:1 12volt 'crab pot pullers' The vendor is PGSAW in canada on Ebay. I definitely recommend in this type of setup. plenty of power. DMAX
Thank you. Will have a look where I can find it in South Africa.
@@rinusbotha9509 South Africa.. Consider the Motion Dynamics 60:1 motors from Australia. They have more power, but are more expensive.
Great video. Really tempted to attempt one myself. How did u like the butt kickers? I think thats my next upgrade atm
Thanks for the comment Travis. Ok the buttkickers were well worth it! I liked them so much I got two - one for front and one for back. I did a video on setting them up with free simhub software, but they work with other software too. If they are not 'on' it feels like something is wrong with the rig.. Pretty good stuff. DMAX
Hi Dave,
first of all I have to say I think it's terrific what you've created. I am totally enthusiastic and would like to build myself such a motion simulator. The first question I have is, how did you determine the dimensions of your rig? Did you take a template from the web? Or what are the dimensions of your rig? Before I buy the necessary square tubes, I should know what quantity I need. To the square tubes still the question, what thickness do they have? I would have taken tubes with 1.5748" x 1.5748" for the main frame and 1.1811" x 1.1811" for the seat construction, each with a thickness of 0.12".
Sorry, in Germany we have other size specifications and I have now simply converted them via Google.
Greetz
David
So I posted most of the build here and a few pages in someone asked me for the measurments so I added a bunch of photos for that..www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
Hey David, Going to make a 3 part series on building a seat mover.. Starting this weekend my friend! Take a look if you get a chance! DMax
Cool video Dave, I will check the rest of them out to see how you solved certain problems. Do you suggest any helpful forums for a build?
Do you have any detailed schematics for your Arduino wiring? Can it interface with any racing/sim game or just a special game MADE for simtools software?
Have you thought about getting the actual dash from a car you love? You can easily connect this up to an Arduino and use the CANBUS network to power and rev the gauges - it's what I'll do if I ever get close the finishing a build, but would look really cool for you to add. If you give it a search you'll find the libraries and guides of how to do it.
Sorry about the question overload, I feel like this will be my next project :) I am also thinking about maybe a removable dash bit, where one could be a car and another a jet that you could just swap - as I love the flight sims to, how practical do you think this could be ? Perhaps 6dof needed for a jet setup?
Sorry I lost your heart like Dave I edited the comment a little 😁
Hi Big Steve, Great questions. Yep I used the xsimulator.net forum for pretty much all you were asking. here is a link to the schematic page www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/smc3-arduino-3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/
here is a link to my build on x-simulator.net www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/
That should get you heading in the right direction.
I'm using VR so I always have the correct dash for whatever car I am driving.. VR is great and was a game changer for me.
I'm looking into building a 6 DOF maybe this winter.. Thanks again for the questions.. DMAX
@@DMAX_DIY thanks a lot Dave you've saved me a long search. Very cool stuff.
Would you say VR is way better experience for the racing Sims? How about motion sickness? Is it lessened because you're actually moving because I've had some sickening times on some of those vr games! 😂
For the reasons above I am wary of the VR and you also are lacking peripheral without looking. What do you think about the feasiblity of a 180 degree curved projector panel that's attached to the frame and moves with it.
There is a projector project like this on RUclips but not incorporating any dof, seems an interesting challenge
And finally, if you could do this build different what would you change about it if you were to do it again.
Thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge.
Steve, UK
@@bigsteve6729 Ok Big Steve, Apparently YT never notified me you commented.. But Yes I had a single monitor stationary. then I hooked it to the rig. Stationary hooked to the motion was WAY better. Then I tried Triple monitors I think they were like 24".. It was EPIC.. but I already had Oculus Rift CV1 and was a bit scared to try it.. I manned up and hooked it up. HOLY CRAP!! Way better than triples with the motion.. I don't get motion sick easily and you might find me 'surfing' and all diving in the ocean or whatever. But I would suggest if you have a 1080 card and at least an I7 with 32GB ram, VR should be fine.. Go all in.. my motto is 'if it's worth doing.. it's worth OVER doing' .. All the best my friend ! DMAX
Hi I have a sim rig I did it my self I need help adding motion to it but I has a ps5 yours is pefect