For our family with little kids and dogs, the GX over trail does not offer roof vents. That was a deal breaker. Comparing apples to apples - the LC offers better air ventilation than the OT. If you choose a GX that is not an OT, you lose off road features. For this reason we opted for the LC and very happy with it. One more item - the “larger” screen on the GX contains the digital buttons that are physical/analog in the LC. The GX does not offer larger net space with this in mind.
I picked up my GX 3 days ago and I love everything about it. I prefer driving the GX 550 over the 2024 Mercedes GLE 450. I had 2 Mercedes within 1 year that were lemons and Mercedes agreed to take both cars back. A lot of people are knocking Toyota / Lexus but they’re still better in reliability than all the other car companies.
I have the new first edition and it’s by far the best suv I have had in last 20 years. Great comfort, great power and great look. I have had many Toyotas and Lexus over the last years and this is the best thus far. Mpg is averaging around 22.5 but has had trios as high as 25. Overall both great rides.
Just took delivery of my Overtrail. Love it so far. Silver exterior. Decided after I test drove the LC at the Toyota dealership same day. The power train difference is meaningful in real world driving.
How are you liking the GX so far? I just test drove both back to back. I went in wanting the LC and came away thinking the GX was much better overall. I’m trying to get over the mpg difference , but am leaning GX OT now.
@ thanks for asking. Loving the OT+ overall. I did not want the plus version because I had too many luxuries that I do not want to pay for. Unfortunately it was the only one on a lot, and I cannot find a standard OT on any dealer lot. The powertrain is very strong. The suspension is variable based upon the driving mode. Some features I do not like include the comfort of the driver seat. It is not as supportive as I had hoped. But the massaging function does help. I hope they improve on that in the future. I have not driven the prior generation GX for a comparison. A couple of first year niggles include the front passenger massaging function needed to be fixed with a simple vacuum tube reconnection. The engine idle is at times inconsistent. And shifting out of park or reverse into drive Feels slightly delayed when applying the gas and lurching forward. Those are tuning issues, which can be refined The benefits of the GX over the LC are the powertrain, 10 speed on automatic, EKDSS, larger, rear, cargo volume, and the variable suspension and shock absorber settings. The advantage of the LC over the GX is better gas mileage. Personally I think the GX is better looking. I have not had so many people, including strangers tell me how good-looking the vehicle is and often comparing it to a Land Rover. For me, the land cruiser is a very plain looking vehicle. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I’m taking a Toyota break. My ‘22 Tacomas transmission shifted so bad, I sold it back to the dealership at 5k miles. Keeping my ‘20 4Runner, and ‘23 GX. Not getting any of their new stuff, nothing but crazy bad stories. Would get the new Frontier if I go back for another mid size truck. Great reviews. Because honestly my current Toyotas are not perfect.
Having seen both of these in person, I feel like they just look better in person. Somehow the angles and dimensions seem distorted in photos and videos. Sounds crazy I know!
The most important difference was not even mentioned in this video. It is that the Land Cruiser has considerable less cargo space due to the hybrid battery location, and a pitiful weight limit for the cargo area. As much as I’ve dreamed of owning a Land Cruiser, that is a deal breaker for me. I’m going with Lexus 550 Overtrail.
Thanks David, very informative video comparison of both models!! Looking forward to hearing more, maybe adding in additional differences between the Overtrail+ model and both vehicles.
11:33 "mainly because the hybrid motor is sandwiched between the engine and transmission" the GX is not hybrid. also, the glass screen on the GX may be "bigger", but the actual usable space is identical, since the bottom half of the GX screen is only climate controls. lower Start button is way easier to press. You don't have to move your head to press it; you just press it.
Informative video! The gray GX at timestamp 5:57 shows small mud guards as you described. However, the white GX at timestamp 11:37 to 11:47, and the GX at timestamp 24:25, show no mud guards, the same as the online Lexus literature. The GX needs available mud guards, especially those fitted with rock rails rather than running boards. Perhaps GXs beyond a certain serial number have, or will have mud guards.
I would rather have an FJ Cruiser. Toyota should have never stopped selling it in the US back in 2014 and never stopped making it. I love my 2007 FJ and as much as I hate to say this but if I were buying an off-road vehicle today it would be the INIOS Grenadier. The Grenadier is more modable and just as capable if not more.
I can appreciate the comparison, where I have been curious about the Land Cruiser's power delivery. I have driven my GX from Utah to Vancouver, and will do the return trip at the end of the month! So far, everything is great! I took it through a favorite trail in Oregon, where I noticed I need a slightly bigger tire and a small lift to address the approach angle, but everything else is great, so far! I really enjoyed your livestream and hope you do another, soon!😊 I always appreciate your insight. Thanks!
Thanks so much! Hey I'm still waiting to have a comparison of your Overtrail vs my Land Cruiser! We should do this while you are still in Vancouver! Let me know..
@@AutomotivePress You were serious about that? Lol I would gladly do that, if we had more time. I start the return trip this morning. Maybe bring your LC to Utah to Moab test it and we can compare there, and us 4x4 owners LOVE videos on new 4x4s taking on Moab, so you will get a lot of views! I can start my own channel. First video "Luna in the GX 550 vs AutomotivePress in the LC" lol I start the return drive this morn (Thursday, August 29th) after meeting family for breakfast at 9am, and want to be in Utah by the 1st of September, so have enough time to see something along the way. Next time my GX will have slightly bigger, much better tires and maybe a very small lift, so it will be no comparing lol However, not sure I would endure that drive again lol Hope to see a livestream soon! I enjoyed that!
@@lunamaria1048 Yes I was serious about that! It would be an epic video and you can definitely start your own Luna channel (is that your name?). I was offered to buy the GX 550 Overtrail but I may wait until next year as I already have so many new models this year... I will definitely do a livestream soon. Keep an eye on the community tab for announcements! Do let me know when you are back in Vancouver though (still don't know how to contact you though, maybe send me a note via email automotivepress@outlook.com please!)
Real world test I've seen put LC around 23 highway vs. gx 20-21 @75mph. LC does a lot better closer to 60mph. GX is considerably worse for city ofc... take it with a grain of salt though, way too many variables
While my current daily driver is my '13 RX350, my first Toyota I bought new was my '87 Xtra-Cab Deluxe 4x4 Pickup with the 22R 4-cyl 2/5-speed and is the core to my off-roading roots. That said, between these 2 models, I would select the Land Cruiser. I'll have to wait for one to show up as C.P.O.s in a few years for me to buy one... as my the last time I actually bought a new Toyota was in 2007 and I only buy C.P.O. Toyotas since then...
For fuel cost reduction, Toyota should have engeneer the Land Cruiser and GX optimal compatibility with regular fuel !!! I dislike to pay for a Premium fuel for a truck !!
We decided to screw over anyone not buying a Lexus, what you want normal things like engine covers and hydraulic hood prop that cost us nothing? I’m debating on the GX, Tundra, or since BMW is now reliable going for a $60-70k vehicle that has quality real leather instead of pleather… I was in a 2024 1794 today and was stunned how thin that “leather” was
Not a fair driving comparison because of the huge tire and wheel differences. For owners looking for the smoothest on- pavement ride the Land Cruiser with its standard 18" all season highway tires beats the Lexus because 18" wheels with all season highway tires are not even available on the GX. The Lexus also subjects the owner to more electronic complication and fustration via it's more extensive electronically, instead of manually, actuated controls. I will not purchase either one until I am able to evaluate the upcoming 2025 4Runner. My hunch is I will want a lower trim 4Runner with the non-hybrid turbo 4 cyl and 8 speed automatic because that vehicle will not only cost $12,000 less than the cheapest Land Cruiser, but will also be less complicated and expensive to maintain and troubleshoot.
With both vehicles having the same shaped exterior mirrors, are they exactly the same in terms of features, like folding, heated, blind spot monitoring etc? Also which has better headlights in terms of effectiveness at lighting up the road ahead?
like the GX 550 overtrail base model one can delete the moon roof and no 3rd row , but price is lower than ,until the FE land cruiser are sold out bet none will be built under $70k U.S.
I am not sure why anyone would spend the $$ for either of these to off road and scratch up. Why not get a used 4 runner and keep the GX or LC for fun driving.
Back is ugly on both of them. I really love round headlights on Land Cruiser. 18 inch should be standard on Lexus instead of 20 or at least available as an option. Turbo 4 sucks, in Europe you can buy Land Cruiser with carryover 2.8 Turbo Diesel, which is the optimal set-up for it. I wish they carried over 1GR-FE 4.0 V6. Prices on both of them are insanely high. I will wait for the facelift. Never buy any vehicle in its first year.
The driving aspect of the comparison is absolutely useless. Those are not comparable at all, look at the wheels! I would have preferred an engineer look at those, as the title suggested. This was very very superficial.
Agreed, their new gen vehicles add tremendous complication for fuel mileage that’s only marginally better. The last generation will hold their resale value better than the new ones IMHO
2014 = crybabies say Toyota behind everyone with tech 2024 = crybabies say Toyota too complicated Folks no matter what, they will never satisfy everyone🖕 I for one welcome the changes and am excited about Toyota trying new things, they will get it right in the end.
@@TxRumbler One cannot research the unknown. If you want to be the test mule, go for it. If they could release an engine with one major defect, there are more. Meanwhile most of us with common sense will wait.
@@TxRumblerPlus the engine for the GX550 is built in a different line of production especially for the GX550, nothing to do with the engines production for tundra or Lexus LX600.
For our family with little kids and dogs, the GX over trail does not offer roof vents. That was a deal breaker. Comparing apples to apples - the LC offers better air ventilation than the OT. If you choose a GX that is not an OT, you lose off road features. For this reason we opted for the LC and very happy with it. One more item - the “larger” screen on the GX contains the digital buttons that are physical/analog in the LC. The GX does not offer larger net space with this in mind.
thanks for sharing your experience, it's this kind of detail that helps with purchasing decisions. appreciate it!
I picked up my GX 3 days ago and I love everything about it. I prefer driving the GX 550 over the 2024 Mercedes GLE 450. I had 2 Mercedes within 1 year that were lemons and Mercedes agreed to take both cars back. A lot of people are knocking Toyota / Lexus but they’re still better in reliability than all the other car companies.
I have the new first edition and it’s by far the best suv I have had in last 20 years. Great comfort, great power and great look. I have had many Toyotas and Lexus over the last years and this is the best thus far. Mpg is averaging around 22.5 but has had trios as high as 25. Overall both great rides.
Just took delivery of my Overtrail. Love it so far. Silver exterior. Decided after I test drove the LC at the Toyota dealership same day. The power train difference is meaningful in real world driving.
How are you liking the GX so far? I just test drove both back to back. I went in wanting the LC and came away thinking the GX was much better overall. I’m trying to get over the mpg difference , but am leaning GX OT now.
@ thanks for asking. Loving the OT+ overall. I did not want the plus version because I had too many luxuries that I do not want to pay for. Unfortunately it was the only one on a lot, and I cannot find a standard OT on any dealer lot. The powertrain is very strong. The suspension is variable based upon the driving mode. Some features I do not like include the comfort of the driver seat. It is not as supportive as I had hoped. But the massaging function does help. I hope they improve on that in the future. I have not driven the prior generation GX for a comparison. A couple of first year niggles include the front passenger massaging function needed to be fixed with a simple vacuum tube reconnection. The engine idle is at times inconsistent. And shifting out of park or reverse into drive Feels slightly delayed when applying the gas and lurching forward.
Those are tuning issues, which can be refined
The benefits of the GX over the LC are the powertrain, 10 speed on automatic, EKDSS, larger, rear, cargo volume, and the variable suspension and shock absorber settings. The advantage of the LC over the GX is better gas mileage. Personally I think the GX is better looking. I have not had so many people, including strangers tell me how good-looking the vehicle is and often comparing it to a Land Rover. For me, the land cruiser is a very plain looking vehicle. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I’m taking a Toyota break. My ‘22 Tacomas transmission shifted so bad, I sold it back to the dealership at 5k miles. Keeping my ‘20 4Runner, and ‘23 GX. Not getting any of their new stuff, nothing but crazy bad stories. Would get the new Frontier if I go back for another mid size truck. Great reviews. Because honestly my current Toyotas are not perfect.
Get Toyotas made in Japan not US.
Yeah even the new 4runner that will be made in Japan Im waiting like 5-6 years for
You are not taking a break! You own two Toyotas! Sell them and buy some Fords or Dodges. Then check in with us in 5 years.
Another great video, I bought the GX, loved the Land Cruiser, but the 4 cylinder and high price was the dealbreaker
Having seen both of these in person, I feel like they just look better in person. Somehow the angles and dimensions seem distorted in photos and videos. Sounds crazy I know!
Great detailed comparison David San.
Thanks!
Thank you for your video. It really helped me make the decision….
I test drove the LC but ended up buying GX today. Once again, thank you!
Great review. GX550 all the way.
The most important difference was not even mentioned in this video. It is that the Land Cruiser has considerable less cargo space due to the hybrid battery location, and a pitiful weight limit for the cargo area. As much as I’ve dreamed of owning a Land Cruiser, that is a deal breaker for me. I’m going with Lexus 550 Overtrail.
I love my 550 GX! I like the hybrid mpg but I prefer driving my V6 twin turbo despite the lower mpg’s
Great reviewer
Thank you for review
Thanks David, very informative video comparison of both models!! Looking forward to hearing more, maybe adding in additional differences between the Overtrail+ model and both vehicles.
You're welcome!
Chapters/labeled section for this video would be nice. But otherwise, great review!
Outstanding video, really excellent. Thanks 🎉
11:33 "mainly because the hybrid motor is sandwiched between the engine and transmission"
the GX is not hybrid.
also, the glass screen on the GX may be "bigger", but the actual usable space is identical, since the bottom half of the GX screen is only climate controls.
lower Start button is way easier to press. You don't have to move your head to press it; you just press it.
Informative video! The gray GX at timestamp 5:57 shows small mud guards as you described. However, the white GX at timestamp 11:37 to 11:47, and the GX at timestamp 24:25, show no mud guards, the same as the online Lexus literature. The GX needs available mud guards, especially those fitted with rock rails rather than running boards. Perhaps GXs beyond a certain serial number have, or will have mud guards.
@AutomotivePress.. can the acoustic glass of the GX be installed in the Land Cruiser?
I would rather have an FJ Cruiser. Toyota should have never stopped selling it in the US back in 2014 and never stopped making it. I love my 2007 FJ and as much as I hate to say this but if I were buying an off-road vehicle today it would be the INIOS Grenadier. The Grenadier is more modable and just as capable if not more.
so thorough.... awesome video.
I can appreciate the comparison, where I have been curious about the Land Cruiser's power delivery. I have driven my GX from Utah to Vancouver, and will do the return trip at the end of the month! So far, everything is great! I took it through a favorite trail in Oregon, where I noticed I need a slightly bigger tire and a small lift to address the approach angle, but everything else is great, so far!
I really enjoyed your livestream and hope you do another, soon!😊
I always appreciate your insight. Thanks!
Thanks so much! Hey I'm still waiting to have a comparison of your Overtrail vs my Land Cruiser! We should do this while you are still in Vancouver! Let me know..
@@AutomotivePress You were serious about that? Lol I would gladly do that, if we had more time. I start the return trip this morning. Maybe bring your LC to Utah to Moab test it and we can compare there, and us 4x4 owners LOVE videos on new 4x4s taking on Moab, so you will get a lot of views! I can start my own channel. First video "Luna in the GX 550 vs AutomotivePress in the LC" lol
I start the return drive this morn (Thursday, August 29th) after meeting family for breakfast at 9am, and want to be in Utah by the 1st of September, so have enough time to see something along the way.
Next time my GX will have slightly bigger, much better tires and maybe a very small lift, so it will be no comparing lol However, not sure I would endure that drive again lol
Hope to see a livestream soon! I enjoyed that!
@@lunamaria1048 Yes I was serious about that! It would be an epic video and you can definitely start your own Luna channel (is that your name?). I was offered to buy the GX 550 Overtrail but I may wait until next year as I already have so many new models this year... I will definitely do a livestream soon. Keep an eye on the community tab for announcements! Do let me know when you are back in Vancouver though (still don't know how to contact you though, maybe send me a note via email automotivepress@outlook.com please!)
Lets see some photos and vids when you lift it and change the tires. Im betting the GX will look sexy after lol
I heard the turbo v6 are having issues.(?)
How about gas mileage differences?
Real world test I've seen put LC around 23 highway vs. gx 20-21 @75mph. LC does a lot better closer to 60mph. GX is considerably worse for city ofc... take it with a grain of salt though, way too many variables
That's why I chose the LC.
Hi David, great review 👍 I love the gx better, but I will drive either one..
Chinese market already has the hybrid Gx550h and also the lc 250 come with both 2.4T hybrid and 6 sitters as well.
Great video. What the difference in glass thickness? How many millimeters?
While my current daily driver is my '13 RX350, my first Toyota I bought new was my '87 Xtra-Cab Deluxe 4x4 Pickup with the 22R 4-cyl 2/5-speed and is the core to my off-roading roots. That said, between these 2 models, I would select the Land Cruiser. I'll have to wait for one to show up as C.P.O.s in a few years for me to buy one... as my the last time I actually bought a new Toyota was in 2007 and I only buy C.P.O. Toyotas since then...
For fuel cost reduction, Toyota should have engeneer the Land Cruiser and GX optimal compatibility with regular fuel !!! I dislike to pay for a Premium fuel for a truck !!
GX vs LX video!
We decided to screw over anyone not buying a Lexus, what you want normal things like engine covers and hydraulic hood prop that cost us nothing? I’m debating on the GX, Tundra, or since BMW is now reliable going for a $60-70k vehicle that has quality real leather instead of pleather… I was in a 2024 1794 today and was stunned how thin that “leather” was
Hey @david I have been told my new LC250 first edition has been built at Aichi prefecture...does that mean it's built at Tahara plant? Thank you
Hi David
I’m so anxious to get my GX550 overtrail+ within the next few weeks Ive been told by my dealer
Not a fair driving comparison because of the huge tire and wheel differences. For owners looking for the smoothest on- pavement ride the Land Cruiser with its standard 18" all season highway tires beats the Lexus because 18" wheels with all season highway tires are not even available on the GX. The Lexus also subjects the owner to more electronic complication and fustration via it's more extensive electronically, instead of manually, actuated controls.
I will not purchase either one until I am able to evaluate the upcoming 2025 4Runner. My hunch is I will want a lower trim 4Runner with the non-hybrid turbo 4 cyl and 8 speed automatic because that vehicle will not only cost $12,000 less than the cheapest Land Cruiser, but will also be less complicated and expensive to maintain and troubleshoot.
We need video Comparison overtrail and lc250 off roading
Team LC here 🎉
Best Cars new magazine has the FJ and the mr2 on the front. Could you do a video saying what the new scoops are. Thanks David
With both vehicles having the same shaped exterior mirrors, are they exactly the same in terms of features, like folding, heated, blind spot monitoring etc?
Also which has better headlights in terms of effectiveness at lighting up the road ahead?
Any update on the hybrid coming to the GX?
David, We will have to wait for the GX Hybrid to see if the ranking changes.
Yes true..
That was great; Thank you.
I would go clearly for the Lex.
Good comparison.👍
I thought you were going to get the GX 550 overtrail .
I still am planning to get one...
I’m assuming the hybrid allows you to run the air conditioning even when the engine is not running. I like that feature on my Prius.
Yes.. you are correct.
Seeing this makes me start dreaming of the next-gen FJ. Please Toyota, do it for the US market!
Certainly a great difference. 31:24
Waiting for 25 qx80 review
We test-drove a GX - it was bumpy and the interior needs to be fancier.
How did the fuel economy compare in the real world?
Land Cruiser should have come with the V6 engine and even a manual transmission option, also 7 seat option.
Neither has passenger lumbar support. Seems like a big miss to me. Drove the GX last week and realized this issue. FYI
Feel lucky ours was built in Tahara.
Hi David, I think u will trade ur land cruiser to GX overtrail + later. 😊
In the Jurassic park books the t rex attacked a land cruiser
like the GX 550 overtrail base model one can delete the moon roof and no 3rd row , but price is lower than ,until the FE land cruiser are sold out bet none will be built under $70k U.S.
Toyota has replaced the main bearing cap in all new V6 engines since February 2024.
So what would you choose between the GX550, the Land Cruiser, or your LC500?
Why didn't you mention the fuel economy? The Lexus is much worse that the Land Cruiser.
I am not sure why anyone would spend the $$ for either of these to off road and scratch up. Why not get a used 4 runner and keep the GX or LC for fun driving.
Only the Lexus GX55 OT+
The glass windows isn't the same ?
That's the one thing I don't like about the LC.
Got myself a GX460 instead like you & AMD 🎉
Both vehicles are impressive.
The tiny turbo 4 is a big mistake. Also I read the 6 is having same horrible issues as in the Tundra.
having the hybrid motor compensates dramatically. it functions very well.
Why is it when I see these videos do I wish I had less tech crap and better 4x4 capability and a torquey engine like in the old days?
Back is ugly on both of them. I really love round headlights on Land Cruiser. 18 inch should be standard on Lexus instead of 20 or at least available as an option. Turbo 4 sucks, in Europe you can buy Land Cruiser with carryover 2.8 Turbo Diesel, which is the optimal set-up for it. I wish they carried over 1GR-FE 4.0 V6. Prices on both of them are insanely high. I will wait for the facelift. Never buy any vehicle in its first year.
David love your reviews, but comparing 18s to 22s doesn't tell you much.
I want the 2.5L hybrid in the Lexus. Call me crazy.
Man those rear numbers and hitch covers are hideous
The driving aspect of the comparison is absolutely useless. Those are not comparable at all, look at the wheels!
I would have preferred an engineer look at those, as the title suggested. This was very very superficial.
I prefer my new 2024 5th gen 4Runner. Toyota is making so many mistakes
Agreed, their new gen vehicles add tremendous complication for fuel mileage that’s only marginally better. The last generation will hold their resale value better than the new ones IMHO
What are the mistakes?
It doesn’t matter because you can not afford either vehicle.
Hes the mistake =🤡 @Simonverse
2014 = crybabies say Toyota behind everyone with tech
2024 = crybabies say Toyota too complicated
Folks no matter what, they will never satisfy everyone🖕 I for one welcome the changes and am excited about Toyota trying new things, they will get it right in the end.
Mark Levinson is way overrated.
Toyota Safety Sense is a joke.
Anyone with any brains will not buy anything V6 any time soon from Toyota. This Automotive Press guy is a Toyota fan boy.
You didn’t know that Toyota has replaced the main bearing cap in all new engines since February 2024. Do some basic research before posting.
@@TxRumbler One cannot research the unknown. If you want to be the test mule, go for it. If they could release an engine with one major defect, there are more. Meanwhile most of us with common sense will wait.
@@TxRumblerPlus the engine for the GX550 is built in a different line of production especially for the GX550, nothing to do with the engines production for tundra or Lexus LX600.
Sell out
Toyota disappointing
4cyl hybrid kills the LC for me.
nty
Yet I chose the LC for the power train :)
GX looks miles better.
Worth the extra 15K USD.