Bricken is a very smart and handsome devil who has taken many hours of his time to assist you new players with learning fire emblem. You will be greatful and sing the praises of this savior wherever you may go, and also maybe give him a hug because he could really use a pickmeup right now.
@@Bicken Just in case Engage doesn't live up to expectation, there's Vestaria Saga 2 on Steam. It's a Strategy game directed by the original creator of Fire Emblem Shouzou Kaga.
While I understand the reasoning behind it, I cannot disagree more with Fates Conquest being a first game in the series. A lot of the things that make the gameplay "good" are only really apparent if you have a solid grasp on the game's knowledge in advance (and a good head for SRPGs in general). Mechanics like joined attacks are introduced in a very unclear way during a part of the game where they're basically useless, and it's easy to cast them aside entirely in favor of the more-easily-used Pair Up. Moreover, a lot of the early characters like Odin and Arthur are often difficult to use well if you don't already have full plans for them, and that can easily lead to a lot of wasted resources in a game where they're not the most plentiful. This goes especially for child units. If you're starting out and just pairing people at random (or by who you feel like), it's more than likely you'll get child units with less-than-ideal stats, and perhaps more importantly, less-than-ideal skills. When doing a blind run, it's easy to get yourself into situations where your units just get overwhelmed and outstatted, even with a full 20/20 set of royals. It's a feeling that persists throughout the game, and it hits especially hard in the lategame maps. Conquest's Endgame map is just brutal if you don't know exactly what to do, and the lack of a save point before it makes a first run through it extra painful. I mainly bring this up because Conquest was my second ever Fire Emblem (after Birthright), and it was easily one of the most frustrating experiences with an FE game that I can recall, so much so that I even enjoyed my Revelations run more than it. or maybe i'm just bad tbh who knows
No your absolutely right. For me its my first time playing FE Conquests Im at chapter 26 and boy its mad hard because unit that needed to be planed are not, thus I have a lot of useless unit who deals no damage who are out leveled but that I must play anyway.
conquest was my fifth fe? i rage quit at chapter 6 on hard even right after beating awakening hard with not too much trouble. I finally beat it last year on hard but it was the most challenging time I've had in fe.
I usually recommend fire emblem 7 when I try to brainwash people into the franchise as it's got a very solid tutorial in Lyn mode, which honestly most of the other games lack. Banger video btw
Yeah I have never had a character die and not reset lol, like literally I had a character die on the last turn of the final map of the Church route to a 3% crit with no divine pulses left. You bet your ass I reset that map.
Throwing a clip of Zephiel dying from your blind Hector Hard mode iron man as a reason to reset was appropriate 👍 Edit: Ayo take your time and live your life, we here for your videos
not wanting to have bad habits in a game for the long run is like reading the news paper to learn a language. most people aren't going to be around for the long run
Personally I think it's better to start any videogame franchise from its first entry (if possible), though I'm a bit biased since FE1 was my first FE and I love it lol
Thanks man, I discovered I really love SRPGs during a boring night with a SEGA Genesis compilation, but when I picked up Awakening I found it was INFINITELY more complex than any of the three Shining Force games that got me into the genre. But knowing all this, and playing on classic mode with perma-death, is actually far more interesting than Shining Force BECAUSE of all those variables. Even the generic-ass anime high fantasy JRPG story is slowly getting me invested just because of how much I don't want to lose units, and that makes me care about these characters I would otherwise not give a shit about and throw to the front lines until I made it through. It's really cool to see gameplay aiding the presentation and narrative like that, and the relationships mechanic adds a whole other layer of replayability and investment in the characters, it reminds me of Phantasy Star III's system of your characters having multiple generations and your kids are based on how you fostered your party members' relationships and the characters you were able to get to FUCK.
@@orangeslash1667 Ooh that sounds really cool! I'm still slowly making my way through Awakening, and I've found I really enjoy the relationship mechanic, so I'm going to play Sakura Wars next since it's literally half visual novel/dating sim [the original Saturn one with the English fan patch], but hell yeah, added to my Steam list EDIT: ohh that's... really ugly. Like 13 year-olds first RPG Maker game ugly. But as long as it plays well enough, I could get used to it.
@@aortaplatinum Oh I played Sakura Wars So Long my Love on the Wii, and that game uses Cell shading. There's also Valkyria Chronicles which I think is suppose to be a successor to Sakura Wars gameplay???? Sakura Wars 2019 is an Action RPG and it's not great.
@@aortaplatinum It's aseptically insulting because Sega confirmed that Fans requested them to bring it back. Sadly it was brought back as an action game and it doesn't translate well. Thank you for telling me that you used steam. Since you stated that Sakurai Wars 1 looks dated, tell me if this looks nice. ruclips.net/video/Ygj3l2g9M3A/видео.html
Hey, i liked the video, but if you every make a video like this again it would be very useful to talk about the action economy and general choices you can make in the game. On your turn, what can you do? Move and attack? Take an action, which can be a move, attack, or spell? Do the enemies get the same choices? Do some allies get more options? What key differences makes allies play differently? Is combat rng based? Things like that.
I have to say, I don't think Genealogy is a game that represents core fe very well. Individual gold and zero trading by itself and all of it's ramifications(villages, arena, selling and buying weapons) already shifts the gameplay so far away the traditional gameplay. And then you add on inheritance, skills, the bajilion secret events, and the massive maps that take multiple hours to beat. Even though the story is grand, I can't see that game being at all a good introduction into what this series is. Everything else I liked tho :)
I specifically included genealogy because it teaches the player to solve common problems better than other games in the series. I probably should've stated it better in the actual video, but I'm dumb and didn't think to make the distinction
i am convinced I have no idea what I'm doing in Fire Emblem. I die, constantly, level ups seem extremely rare and 2-3 missions in, I hit a roadblock on every single game in this series I've ever tried where I have NO IDEA what I am doing wrong. Take three houses for example. I literally can't get past the 4th mission. Ever. And with permadeath turned on, I lose everyone and i have to start the whole game over again. How the fuck do you play these games?!
Play without Perma Death to get a grasp of all the possibilities the game offers. It isnt as punishing and you will get through most missions, it still requires some planing but not to the same extend as a perma death run. Fire Emblem in classic is quite overwhelming for a beginner, especially certain games like Fates Conquest.
@@lisawinter489 ok but even without permadeath I cant help but feel like a level 2 scrub trying to fight a level 20 dragon. Is there some experience mechanic or strength or something else that maybe the game doesn't outright tell you?
@@zylokun Well i guess paying attention to the resistance and defense of the enemies and therefore choosing which unit should attack. In the early game you just have to keep doing chip damage and the final blow should be dealt by the unit you want to level up the most i guess. In general i would suggest to pay attention to your positioning and the range of the enemies, for example keeping your healers out of the enemies attack range. The beginning in three houses is rather slow but just do your assignment and battles outside of your mission. The last tip is to not reclass your units until they mastered their current class, since they will gain universal abilities like Hp +5 and so on. Playing on easy and no perma death should help a ton anyway.
A bit off topic here, I'm one of the few who played fe engage Spoilers: The end credit what happens in the future section was just sad. One of the first people you meey are said to have passed early, another character also your sister which qas also on the big bads side makes the evil teritory habitable and becomes the ruler of it ALMOST ALL of your friends die. Not only that, its made worse by the game trying to add in words that try to make you feel better about it.
"Conquest is terrible in every aspect except the gameplay". It's a *game*. Why do people say that like it's a tenth of what the game has to offer and not like 70% at minimum?
@@Bicken And that's why Echoes is one of my least favorite games in the series. Also, it's really just the story that's bad in Fates. Music is amazing, visuals are pretty damned okay, and I can't even hate the story because it's hilarious.
It make it enjoyable for sure, but Fire Emblem is not supposed to be all about gameplay. The rest of what make a « video » game, aka graphics, presentation, character design and interaction, the plot, ect… have to be as good… which is CLEARLY not the case
Bricken is a very smart and handsome devil who has taken many hours of his time to assist you new players with learning fire emblem. You will be greatful and sing the praises of this savior wherever you may go, and also maybe give him a hug because he could really use a pickmeup right now.
what a nice thing to say completely unprompted!
@@Bicken Just in case Engage doesn't live up to expectation, there's Vestaria Saga 2 on Steam. It's a Strategy game directed by the original creator of Fire Emblem Shouzou Kaga.
@@orangeslash1667no
lol how did you lose the bet
Bicken's back with an absolute heater of a video, awesome video as always!
FE7 & PoR are for sure great starting points with a tutorial & bonus experience respectively
If only PoR was less ugly. Early 3d just doesn't look right to me specifically.
Excuse you. My darlings are staying alive thank you very much.
I like not making late game miserable so I will NOT be ironmaning and I WILL use reset. Thank you for the rest of the info, though.
The pace of this video is just beautiful
While I understand the reasoning behind it, I cannot disagree more with Fates Conquest being a first game in the series. A lot of the things that make the gameplay "good" are only really apparent if you have a solid grasp on the game's knowledge in advance (and a good head for SRPGs in general). Mechanics like joined attacks are introduced in a very unclear way during a part of the game where they're basically useless, and it's easy to cast them aside entirely in favor of the more-easily-used Pair Up. Moreover, a lot of the early characters like Odin and Arthur are often difficult to use well if you don't already have full plans for them, and that can easily lead to a lot of wasted resources in a game where they're not the most plentiful.
This goes especially for child units. If you're starting out and just pairing people at random (or by who you feel like), it's more than likely you'll get child units with less-than-ideal stats, and perhaps more importantly, less-than-ideal skills.
When doing a blind run, it's easy to get yourself into situations where your units just get overwhelmed and outstatted, even with a full 20/20 set of royals. It's a feeling that persists throughout the game, and it hits especially hard in the lategame maps. Conquest's Endgame map is just brutal if you don't know exactly what to do, and the lack of a save point before it makes a first run through it extra painful.
I mainly bring this up because Conquest was my second ever Fire Emblem (after Birthright), and it was easily one of the most frustrating experiences with an FE game that I can recall, so much so that I even enjoyed my Revelations run more than it.
or maybe i'm just bad tbh who knows
No your absolutely right. For me its my first time playing FE Conquests Im at chapter 26 and boy its mad hard because unit that needed to be planed are not, thus I have a lot of useless unit who deals no damage who are out leveled but that I must play anyway.
conquest was my fifth fe? i rage quit at chapter 6 on hard even right after beating awakening hard with not too much trouble. I finally beat it last year on hard but it was the most challenging time I've had in fe.
Started playing this today. Liking it
I usually recommend fire emblem 7 when I try to brainwash people into the franchise as it's got a very solid tutorial in Lyn mode, which honestly most of the other games lack. Banger video btw
I have missed this style of editing
All in all, a pretty decent introduction to the series. Good work dood.
this is awesome! hilarious video, and i’ll defo be joining the discord
Yeah I have never had a character die and not reset lol, like literally I had a character die on the last turn of the final map of the Church route to a 3% crit with no divine pulses left. You bet your ass I reset that map.
Throwing a clip of Zephiel dying from your blind Hector Hard mode iron man as a reason to reset was appropriate 👍
Edit: Ayo take your time and live your life, we here for your videos
So what I'm hearing is... Start with Awakening.
On Phoenix mode!
@@Turkeyfoot1990 I recommend Vestaria Saga 2 on Steam. It's a Strategy game directed by the original creator of Fire Emblem Shouzou Kaga.
@@orangeslash1667no
@@ninjakirby777 fine
i started it on easy and i am having fun with it..might try other games on hard once i get hang of this
Which of the best starters has more ike
Editing is on point!
Remember to take breaks
not wanting to have bad habits in a game for the long run
is like reading the news paper to learn a language. most people aren't going to be around for the long run
telling new players to iron man on their first game will make them hate it most of the time.
Personally I think it's better to start any videogame franchise from its first entry (if possible), though I'm a bit biased since FE1 was my first FE and I love it lol
wow now i can hook my friends on fire emblem so i can see them cry when their favourite unit dies
Thanks man, I discovered I really love SRPGs during a boring night with a SEGA Genesis compilation, but when I picked up Awakening I found it was INFINITELY more complex than any of the three Shining Force games that got me into the genre. But knowing all this, and playing on classic mode with perma-death, is actually far more interesting than Shining Force BECAUSE of all those variables. Even the generic-ass anime high fantasy JRPG story is slowly getting me invested just because of how much I don't want to lose units, and that makes me care about these characters I would otherwise not give a shit about and throw to the front lines until I made it through. It's really cool to see gameplay aiding the presentation and narrative like that, and the relationships mechanic adds a whole other layer of replayability and investment in the characters, it reminds me of Phantasy Star III's system of your characters having multiple generations and your kids are based on how you fostered your party members' relationships and the characters you were able to get to FUCK.
I recommend Vestaria Saga 2 on Steam. It's a Strategy game directed by the original creator of Fire Emblem Shouzou Kaga.
@@orangeslash1667 Ooh that sounds really cool! I'm still slowly making my way through Awakening, and I've found I really enjoy the relationship mechanic, so I'm going to play Sakura Wars next since it's literally half visual novel/dating sim [the original Saturn one with the English fan patch], but hell yeah, added to my Steam list
EDIT: ohh that's... really ugly. Like 13 year-olds first RPG Maker game ugly. But as long as it plays well enough, I could get used to it.
@@aortaplatinum Oh I played Sakura Wars So Long my Love on the Wii, and that game uses Cell shading.
There's also Valkyria Chronicles which I think is suppose to be a successor to Sakura Wars gameplay????
Sakura Wars 2019 is an Action RPG and it's not great.
@@orangeslash1667 Yeah, all I know about the reboot is it changes a ton of stuff and fans of the older games don't like it.
@@aortaplatinum It's aseptically insulting because Sega confirmed that Fans requested them to bring it back. Sadly it was brought back as an action game and it doesn't translate well.
Thank you for telling me that you used steam. Since you stated that Sakurai Wars 1 looks dated, tell me if this looks nice. ruclips.net/video/Ygj3l2g9M3A/видео.html
“Don’t reset”
How bout I do
ANYWAY
Suggesting Conquest and fe4 for newcomers is crazy
I heard a gunshot calling up jail 2
i plead the fifth
I have video evidence
Well I have the audio
I play casual for story, sorry not sorry lel
Playing in whatever way is most enjoyable to you is the only correct option anyway
Experience bandit gaming
Shits on awakening, uses awakening bgm: this is the right opinion
not a fan of the game, but a banger is a banger
but awakening is good tho?
... or is this just "new thing bad, old thing good" again?
Just watching random FE videos because I'm excited for Engage, and I gotta say I love the opening! "How did you get in my house" haha
Somehow I know less about FE than when I started
Perfect!
Hey, i liked the video, but if you every make a video like this again it would be very useful to talk about the action economy and general choices you can make in the game. On your turn, what can you do? Move and attack? Take an action, which can be a move, attack, or spell? Do the enemies get the same choices? Do some allies get more options? What key differences makes allies play differently? Is combat rng based? Things like that.
YEEES! YEEEEEEEES! I HAVE THE POWEEEERRRRR!
So how do relationships or supports work? Do I just put any 2 units together and they talk?
I'm a bit late but it does work like that in the gba games.
Fun video
Start with 7,pls
I like awakening
Bu... but.. my waifu died😢 why shouldn't i reset
Fe6 iron man when
You talk far too quickly to be able to take any of that in
wah wah wah
@@us3r.l0ltranslate to english
Click the gear symbol and set playback speed to 0.25.
Or buy more ram for your brain idk.
I have to say, I don't think Genealogy is a game that represents core fe very well. Individual gold and zero trading by itself and all of it's ramifications(villages, arena, selling and buying weapons) already shifts the gameplay so far away the traditional gameplay. And then you add on inheritance, skills, the bajilion secret events, and the massive maps that take multiple hours to beat. Even though the story is grand, I can't see that game being at all a good introduction into what this series is.
Everything else I liked tho :)
I specifically included genealogy because it teaches the player to solve common problems better than other games in the series. I probably should've stated it better in the actual video, but I'm dumb and didn't think to make the distinction
@@Bicken oh that makes sense
@@redmuffin6872 I recommend Vestaria Saga 2 on Steam. It's a Strategy game directed by the original creator of Fire Emblem Shouzou Kaga.
@@orangeslash1667no
i am convinced I have no idea what I'm doing in Fire Emblem. I die, constantly, level ups seem extremely rare and 2-3 missions in, I hit a roadblock on every single game in this series I've ever tried where I have NO IDEA what I am doing wrong. Take three houses for example. I literally can't get past the 4th mission. Ever. And with permadeath turned on, I lose everyone and i have to start the whole game over again. How the fuck do you play these games?!
Play without Perma Death to get a grasp of all the possibilities the game offers. It isnt as punishing and you will get through most missions, it still requires some planing but not to the same extend as a perma death run. Fire Emblem in classic is quite overwhelming for a beginner, especially certain games like Fates Conquest.
@@lisawinter489 ok but even without permadeath I cant help but feel like a level 2 scrub trying to fight a level 20 dragon. Is there some experience mechanic or strength or something else that maybe the game doesn't outright tell you?
@@zylokun Well i guess paying attention to the resistance and defense of the enemies and therefore choosing which unit should attack. In the early game you just have to keep doing chip damage and the final blow should be dealt by the unit you want to level up the most i guess. In general i would suggest to pay attention to your positioning and the range of the enemies, for example keeping your healers out of the enemies attack range. The beginning in three houses is rather slow but just do your assignment and battles outside of your mission. The last tip is to not reclass your units until they mastered their current class, since they will gain universal abilities like Hp +5 and so on. Playing on easy and no perma death should help a ton anyway.
A bit off topic here, I'm one of the few who played fe engage
Spoilers:
The end credit what happens in the future section was just sad. One of the first people you meey are said to have passed early, another character also your sister which qas also on the big bads side makes the evil teritory habitable and becomes the ruler of it ALMOST ALL of your friends die. Not only that, its made worse by the game trying to add in words that try to make you feel better about it.
Expecting memes got a nice guide. Can you do a video with similar games? Or maybe romhacks recommendations 🤔
I'm definitely open to making more short guides for other games. Don't really play romhacks tho
No the xp grind is 100 percent accurate. Don’t start on those two
You're funny. Good video.
"Conquest is terrible in every aspect except the gameplay".
It's a *game*. Why do people say that like it's a tenth of what the game has to offer and not like 70% at minimum?
presentation is more important you'd think. One of my favorite games in the series (echoes) makes it almost entirely on presentation
@@Bicken And that's why Echoes is one of my least favorite games in the series. Also, it's really just the story that's bad in Fates. Music is amazing, visuals are pretty damned okay, and I can't even hate the story because it's hilarious.
@@SuperZez I recommend Vestaria Saga 2 on Steam. It's a Strategy game directed by the original creator of Fire Emblem, Shouzou Kaga.
It make it enjoyable for sure, but Fire Emblem is not supposed to be all about gameplay. The rest of what make a « video » game, aka graphics, presentation, character design and interaction, the plot, ect… have to be as good… which is CLEARLY not the case
@@celrokproduction Other Strategy games I recommend are Valkyria Chronicles 4, Triangle Strategy, Wargroove, and Tactics Ogre Reborn.
Not gonna lie that bit about permadeath made you sound a wee bit unpleasant.
I wish FE 6 was easy. But it's the most annoying one on the GBA.
Skill issue
Fates is dogshit and Conquest's maps don't change that undeniable fact. It's a horrible recommendation for newcomers.
Lol
ear bleeds
𝕡𝐫o𝕄o𝔰𝓶 😻