During the escape at the end of the game there is a room where a bunch of animals are trapped. During a casual playthrough of the game, you would run into these animals and they teach you how to wall jump and shinespark. If you go to the room the animals are trapped in during the escape you can destroy part of the wall to free them. During the final cutscene a pixel of their ship escaping will appear if you saved them. Saving the animals results in a slower time than letting them die which is where the phrase, "Save the frames, kill the animals" comes from. Hopes this answers your question :)
It’s 2 games added together, super Metroid and fusion, so if you save the animals in super Metroid you complete the game in fusion, but you get the newly added bad ending if you kill the animals
Out of all the years i've known this game, this is the first time i've learned of Crystal Flash's existence. Love all the detail this game has, where i'm still learning stuff
I remember calling the Nintendo tip line to find out what it was when I saw it in the main menu idle demos. First and only time I ever called the tip line when I was a kid, lol. It also featured prominently as a plot device in the Super Metroid comic which ran in Nintendo Power. (Oh god, now I feel old. GET OFF MY LAWN!)
Super metroid almost 30y old, and i'm still impressed with the infinite ways to play, every time I watch a new video i learn new things, and impressed with the passion of the community, for shure will be my first favorite game forever.
1:07:27 Zeni wipes a tear from his eye? What a beautiful, awe inspiring run. Never seen a reverse boss order run live before. This was truly crazy. Props to insane skills performing those insane strats. Had my mouth wide open in disbelief several times watching this run as a casual fan with lots of love for this game. ❤️ Metroid ❤️ GDQ ❤️
Man, Zeni did a great Job in doing a movement routine according to the background music while Phantoon was going down at 50:08. but no one recognized or appreciated it... such a shame ;)
As someone who is passionate about speedrunning, and has lost a number of family members to cancer, I have truly loved the GDQ events for years. I've fallen out of the speedrun community a little bit over the past year or so due to changes in my life but I'm hoping I will be able to get back into it soon and would one day love to be good enough to attend an event like this. Kudos to Zeni and to all the talented runners that showcased games at this year's AGDQ!
ShinyZeni isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an ability and movement with Samus? Zeni puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Zoast breaks records. Oatsngoats breaks records. ShinyZeni breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
The whole "who wants to ______" - _cheer_ "and who wants to _______" *CHEER!!* is a bit of a broken, biased system of voting, because one party gets to hear how loud, and thus how much louder to be, the other party is.
It's not so much about how many people want it, it just matters who wants it most. If a small group can overpower a larger group by virtue of their passion and voice, they are granted justice in the form of victory.
Excelente! Muito bonito a atitude e união de todos pra um evento benéfico que também mostra as habilidades das pessoas nesses jogos. Esse cara do Metroid é fera demais!
In the game, in the demo playthrough when you are idle, there is a clip of Samus using X-Factor, and one using Crystal flash. Because of it, I learned how to do X-Factor, and that was cool. I didn't realize how powerful it was. But I never learned crystal flash! I did it once, but I didn't know what I did to do it. I never learned it because I didn't know I had to be
I think I know what makes Super Metroid runs so fun. I have never played Super Metroid. Well at least not very much of it. But these are my favorite runs and I think its the couch that makes these so entertaining to watch. Well teh coach, the crowd, the host, and the donors make these runs so fun. Normally if a run is longer than 30 minutes I ignore it but not with this game. Oatsngoats is probably my favorite and I hope to see him run next GDQ
So how do you set up the controller for these? It seems like these runners are usually doing three things at once, like running while selecting items and shooting simultaneously.
Runners will typically do controller remaps to fit what they're most comfortable with. Then either they have their their index finger over X and Y while their thumb handles A and B (claw grip) or they position and use their thumb such that they can press/hold B, X, and either A or Y at the same time (fat finger grip). So yeah, they don't just have fast fingers. I run the game causally and there are occasional times where you have 3 buttons pressed at once.
50:30 I had to rewatch this section to see if the low framerate was somehow a glitch he was exploiting, but it looks more like an issue with the video encoding.
Going to say this: Kill hadn't won the Save/Kill bid war since SGDQ16. You guys asking them to save the animals have gotten what you wanted for over 2 years! Let us have a turn!
I think the developers intended for people to try this. Lots of health refills and energy tanks in the perfect areas. At least for Ridley. Going through Maridia without glitches seems impossible.
I wonder if the developers have watched any of these runs and what they think of it. It would be really interesting to know how many of these shortcuts that aren't obvious glitches were intentioned (like the entering the Wrecked Ship from the back door)
Man, what I wouldn't give to be able to go to one of these events. I've watched for quite a few years but I really enjoyed this year especially, and those final donations for kill...nice!
Check "Something about Super Metroid" from Terminal Montage, that's hilarious and depicts a speedrun from Samus' perspective (more or less). It also references a lot of the strats & glitches.
Over the many, *many* times I rented this game, I never managed to wall jump _once._ One rental saw me getting stuck in the room with those animals, even. That was a fine waste of money... Runners can do it, what? six times per second? Incredible.
EdwardHowton it's a super small window to wall jump from compared to most other games. I think I got stuck there like 45 minutes trying to do it consistently, like sometimes you just lose all momentum and can't keep wall jumping (probably bad inputs). What amazes me is that they can wall jump *on the same wall*. I don't think something like that is intended if it is straight (or maybe that was another Metroid game?)
The trick is to pull away from the wall a split second before pressing jump. Samus actually goes into a different frame of animation for a split second, and that indicates that you can wall jump.
It has a rythm to it that takes a while to learn. Never was able to do it back in the day either. It wasnt untill early 2000's when I replayed the game, i finally learned how to do it.
Loved the run. Always have. Watched when it was done before (stravereas(sp)). Amazing. BUT I couldn't get over a commentator allowing others to finish their sentence. "Bad dates" choose wisely who you allow to talk. Ps... if strav would have been able to talk.... power level over 9000
I saw mother brain miss one of those blue shots and it got me thinking. Could you save the Metroid? Is there a way to kill MB before she does enough damage to the baby metroid. Tas could probably dodge more than one shot and you were like 2 or so dodges away from killing MB prematurely probably.
if you lower mother brain's health to 0 during the fight, she dies right after you get rainbow beam. You can "save" the metroid, but that involves softlocking the game by putting the metroid out of reach of the onion rings when you are filled up with health
Can someone tell me in clear terms, what is the practical, functional difference between a reserve tank and an E tank? With auto mode, don't they basically just act the same? Or put differently, what's the benefit to having one over the other? And I don't mean because of specific glitches or nuances for speedrunning, I mean for normal playthroughs.
Short answer: not much. Flavor answer: I like to think the dev's added reserves to enhance the believability of how high tech Samus' suit is. Just like in any action packed sifi.. When things get ugly the reserves kick in to save the day! Real answer: pretty much just those two combined. Kind of a second chance for beginers to try and step back and work their way out if dire straits. In advanced game play, such as the randomizer tournament, high level players don't even pick up reserve tanks at times cuz they are almost useless unless they are short on e-tanks and heat runs are inevitable. They come empty and must be filled before they are of use and they don't fill up your energy either. Somthing that e-tanks do and can be a saving grace in runs such as this one, actually making it possible to pull off. In the end: reserves are just another fun dynamic in a beautifully well made game. They don't really serve much of a purpose once you know the game and just play casually, yet are another dynamic these guys have exploited in the right situations to, yet again, pull off the unthinkable.
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Runner introduction starts at 0:38.
Run starts at 1:12.
Finale speech starts at 1:11:05.
Skybilz is the host.
'Preciate it.
only 1 comment? nah i gotta fix this
Everyone amazed of these glitches, shortcuts and secret techniques, I'm just astonished that the grapple beam can grab items
yeah i didnt even know that..damn.
Ikr, and that super bomb health regen trick, mind-blowing.
Ulises Schmidt you mean crystal flash?
LittleMissEevee yeah, I thought that was common stuff
Ikr, idk if this run showed it or not but my mind is still blown that you can fire out a little cluster burst of morph ball bombs lol.
So Samus can noclip by building up speed via arm pumping? She can literally flex her way into parallel universes?!
Chris Goh But first, let’s talk about parallel universes.
Weird flex but ok
But first let’s talk about parallel universes
this made me crack lol HAAHAHAHAH good one
She would go to other m's universe
Zeni didn't save the frames but he surely killed the animals
why they want to kill "the animals" ??
During the escape at the end of the game there is a room where a bunch of animals are trapped. During a casual playthrough of the game, you would run into these animals and they teach you how to wall jump and shinespark. If you go to the room the animals are trapped in during the escape you can destroy part of the wall to free them. During the final cutscene a pixel of their ship escaping will appear if you saved them. Saving the animals results in a slower time than letting them die which is where the phrase, "Save the frames, kill the animals" comes from.
Hopes this answers your question :)
They wanted to kill the animals to save time
Someone should make a "Impossible Fusion" mod where you literally cannot beat the game because you kill the animals in Super Metroid.
It’s 2 games added together, super Metroid and fusion, so if you save the animals in super Metroid you complete the game in fusion, but you get the newly added bad ending if you kill the animals
Out of all the years i've known this game, this is the first time i've learned of Crystal Flash's existence. Love all the detail this game has, where i'm still learning stuff
I remember calling the Nintendo tip line to find out what it was when I saw it in the main menu idle demos. First and only time I ever called the tip line when I was a kid, lol. It also featured prominently as a plot device in the Super Metroid comic which ran in Nintendo Power. (Oh god, now I feel old. GET OFF MY LAWN!)
Really? It's in the demo at the start screen.
@@Bakamoichigei How much did that call cost? lol
What's super cool is that they didn't find out about moon fall until like a year or two ago
@@ShadeTavish That's more of a glitch than a secret move.
Super metroid almost 30y old, and i'm still impressed with the infinite ways to play, every time I watch a new video i learn new things, and impressed with the passion of the community, for shure will be my first favorite game forever.
Rated *E* , For Energy tank.
Rated M for missile
Without context, kill the animals must sound super dark whilst people are cheering
1:07:27 Zeni wipes a tear from his eye? What a beautiful, awe inspiring run. Never seen a reverse boss order run live before. This was truly crazy. Props to insane skills performing those insane strats. Had my mouth wide open in disbelief several times watching this run as a casual fan with lots of love for this game. ❤️ Metroid ❤️ GDQ ❤️
Super Metroid should always to be at the Finale. What an epic run!
It is definitely going to be, Save vs Kill the Animalls is always the biggest crowdfund of the entire event.
Completely true!!
"We don't need the suits!" _dies_
It's more fun when it's more dangerous
Man, Zeni did a great Job in doing a movement routine according to the background music while Phantoon was going down at 50:08. but no one recognized or appreciated it... such a shame ;)
25:30 the moment the whole audience clenched
Holy god, Kill Vs Save at about 100k each, that's utterly insane.
Arkouda Chien it’s a long loved incentive :)
That's nothing. AGDQ 2017, the kill/save war raised just short of $800k.
@@stormrider8576 Fuck I forgot about that... then 2018 stopped doing Super Metroid last
@@Alucard5595 2020 brought SM at the end back, though with SM Impossible instead of normal SM
@@samt3412what’s SM Impossible?
Love me some Oatsngoats commentary.
May not have saved the animals but definately saved a lot of people with cancer research
As someone who is passionate about speedrunning, and has lost a number of family members to cancer, I have truly loved the GDQ events for years. I've fallen out of the speedrun community a little bit over the past year or so due to changes in my life but I'm hoping I will be able to get back into it soon and would one day love to be good enough to attend an event like this. Kudos to Zeni and to all the talented runners that showcased games at this year's AGDQ!
ShinyZeni isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an ability and movement with Samus? Zeni puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Zoast breaks records. Oatsngoats breaks records. ShinyZeni breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
why don't you marry him then
:owl :gun :ZeniRage
Nice GPW reference!
@@helldragonfire555 TIM shinyzRage
nice pasta
I cant beat the game regular and these guys do it in less than an hour and backwards
Man this "The operation was completed successfully" at the end of the marathon made me shake.
I can't wait for SGDQ!
I like to imagine Ridley’s just making coffee or something and Samus shows up way ahead of schedule and he’s just so confused
50:16 Is my favorite part, I love how he syncs up with the music lol :)
Samus is an orchestra conductor in her spare time.
The whole "who wants to ______" - _cheer_ "and who wants to _______" *CHEER!!* is a bit of a broken, biased system of voting, because one party gets to hear how loud, and thus how much louder to be, the other party is.
It's not so much about how many people want it, it just matters who wants it most. If a small group can overpower a larger group by virtue of their passion and voice, they are granted justice in the form of victory.
If you're the first party all you gotta do is not be lame and actually give your 100%
Still better than first-past-the-post.
This is why, as host, you then gotta go back and give both sides another round to really get something accurate.
Excelente! Muito bonito a atitude e união de todos pra um evento benéfico que também mostra as habilidades das pessoas nesses jogos.
Esse cara do Metroid é fera demais!
This is the run I looked forward too every single time.
great run Zeni!
I'm just happy someone taunted the animals for once.
Jokes on you guys though. It's canon that Samus saves the animals. Lol.
If you have ever played this game, you know every single strat and moment is so crucial and requires perfection. Zeni is a legend!!!!!!
"Do you smell something burning?" Lmao. GD this run and oatsngoats impossible run are absolute top notch
Right!
Oats' run of Impossible and Andy's Crowd Control truly made that an even to remember.
It might be better to report the difference rather than the raw amounts for competing incentives. You know X is winning by $Y.
God damn this event is special :') I love it so much!!! Can't believe they managed another donation PB too, fantastic job to everyone involved!!
What a great run. Super Metroid should always close the show. Run/Kill is the ultimate donation booster.
In the game, in the demo playthrough when you are idle, there is a clip of Samus using X-Factor, and one using Crystal flash. Because of it, I learned how to do X-Factor, and that was cool. I didn't realize how powerful it was. But I never learned crystal flash! I did it once, but I didn't know what I did to do it. I never learned it because I didn't know I had to be
It really warms my heart to see gamers all around the world united for AGDQ Ive been watching since 2013 and hopefully I can speed run Super Metroid
I think I know what makes Super Metroid runs so fun. I have never played Super Metroid. Well at least not very much of it. But these are my favorite runs and I think its the couch that makes these so entertaining to watch. Well teh coach, the crowd, the host, and the donors make these runs so fun. Normally if a run is longer than 30 minutes I ignore it but not with this game. Oatsngoats is probably my favorite and I hope to see him run next GDQ
of all the games to me super Metroid speed run is the most mind blowing of all.
So how do you set up the controller for these? It seems like these runners are usually doing three things at once, like running while selecting items and shooting simultaneously.
Runners will typically do controller remaps to fit what they're most comfortable with. Then either they have their their index finger over X and Y while their thumb handles A and B (claw grip) or they position and use their thumb such that they can press/hold B, X, and either A or Y at the same time (fat finger grip).
So yeah, they don't just have fast fingers. I run the game causally and there are occasional times where you have 3 buttons pressed at once.
50:30 I had to rewatch this section to see if the low framerate was somehow a glitch he was exploiting, but it looks more like an issue with the video encoding.
I'm have waiting for this
wait, reverse boss shouldnt start by mother brain???? jk really nice run!!!
And where was Spore Spawn?
@@jruler93 what's a "spore spawn"?
@@jruler93 hahahaha
I love how popular Super Metroid is at these events. Probably my favourite game of all time.
Love watching Metroid runs! This was new to me watching a reverse boss run. Thats crazy to think how people figured out a way. GG guys :D
Going to say this: Kill hadn't won the Save/Kill bid war since SGDQ16. You guys asking them to save the animals have gotten what you wanted for over 2 years! Let us have a turn!
keep donating more money then save the animals then, it's an auction not a swingset.
@@geneirai It's actually canon that they survive. So kill them all you want. It's futile! Muahahaha!
so this is what the save/kill the animals was about.
You can also taunt the animals, which is what happened here.
Are they calling the Chozos "Chorizos"?! 🤣
Torizo. It's what the enemy is called. It does sound a lot like chorizo when you say it
Sounds like a latin american food.
Chozo Torizo would be a chorizo, then
Pretty sure they are called Chozo statues in the lore, no idea where the name Torizo comes from.
Chozos are serving chorizo tacos at a Mexican-Chozo restaurant.
2.395 MILLION?! Holy cow. Good job, guys.
Love super metroid, was my first metroid game i played, never thought one could beat the bosses from the strongest to the easiest. Great job.
At 19:39, we see Samus do her best Akuma impersonation.
love the aussie guy's commentary as he tries to restrain his accent to be understandable.
Lol he probably wasn't restraining at all, Aussie's are perfectly understandable.
oh you really should watch his streams, he's hilarious
guy's twitch name's jrp2234
Always amazed at how much money these things raise
So fun to watch! One of the best I've watch
First time seeing the beam power bomb combo be used, that's pretty neat
Zeni you inspired me to try reverse boss order, its a shame I didnt get to see the percentage of item collection GDQ :(
I've never been good a speed runs and I already shit a brick when I'm in the lava rooms. So I can't imagine doing all this.
One more thing... Finally a GDQ I can actually drive to for 2020
1:05:05 - anyone else seeing Samus get all discombobulated for a second?
Item Room Ambience used to be my ringtone for years. I just changed it last week. Watching this made me go grab my phone a couple of times ...
Was hoping he'd kill mother brain first and then kill the other bosses in the 3 minutes he had left
That was awesome. Missed it live, but glad I could see it. Wish the animals lived though.
Why doesn't Zoast do GDQs anymore? I miss that guy
I think the developers intended for people to try this. Lots of health refills and energy tanks in the perfect areas. At least for Ridley. Going through Maridia without glitches seems impossible.
I wonder if the developers have watched any of these runs and what they think of it. It would be really interesting to know how many of these shortcuts that aren't obvious glitches were intentioned (like the entering the Wrecked Ship from the back door)
I thought reverse boss order was fighting all the bosses that way, not just the main four.
Oh, that's called RAMBO, zoasty made a run once
Forgotten Highway? I thought we wer running Super Metroid, not Hollow Knight!
1:08:19 Michael Jackson is that you?
LMFAOOOO "Do you smell something burning?" *[Remembers Michael Jacksons pepsi music video disaster]*
Love the commentary on this one.
Pretty sure this was my 3rd metroid speed run of the day love it
Yes! I've been waiting for this video to go up since I saw the run live. Can't wait to watch the whole thing again
This is actually a fun run
Well that’s the first run of this game I’ve seen where the runner ACTIVELY killed the animals...
I watched this live with a buddy and I was tense the whole time watching this
46:27 to be fair you have to have a very high iq to save the animals
1losercualquiera how to bot account pablo?
The guy in the middle on the couch, in the black clothes knows his shit!
That saving the animals tease though.
This is awesome
Que increíble speedrun excelente la verdad,muy flipante, me lo ví completo y no me arrepiento
Man, what I wouldn't give to be able to go to one of these events. I've watched for quite a few years but I really enjoyed this year especially, and those final donations for kill...nice!
my butt cheeks never clenched so hard, and the taunt the confident taunt! i love this guy!
this is amazing
It really is. The commentary is terrific too.
Reverse boss order is nuts. Zeni is an artist
I've always wondered what speedruns look like from the characters perspective.
Check "Something about Super Metroid" from Terminal Montage, that's hilarious and depicts a speedrun from Samus' perspective (more or less). It also references a lot of the strats & glitches.
9:28 Can we also call it the Van Morrison?
Boo! I always want them to save the animals.
Either way, really enjoyable run to watch. A lot of skill showcased here.
sick run man agdq should more of this.
Over the many, *many* times I rented this game, I never managed to wall jump _once._ One rental saw me getting stuck in the room with those animals, even. That was a fine waste of money...
Runners can do it, what? six times per second? Incredible.
EdwardHowton it's a super small window to wall jump from compared to most other games. I think I got stuck there like 45 minutes trying to do it consistently, like sometimes you just lose all momentum and can't keep wall jumping (probably bad inputs). What amazes me is that they can wall jump *on the same wall*. I don't think something like that is intended if it is straight (or maybe that was another Metroid game?)
The trick is to pull away from the wall a split second before pressing jump. Samus actually goes into a different frame of animation for a split second, and that indicates that you can wall jump.
It has a rythm to it that takes a while to learn. Never was able to do it back in the day either. It wasnt untill early 2000's when I replayed the game, i finally learned how to do it.
I did it like in 30 minutes actually. Can't talk for the rest of people but, hey, practice. That is all there is
I was stuck in that room for an hour, going crazy with the animal noises before I figured it out.
Awesome run! Next time I would like to see a good old fashioned 4 runners going toe to toe in a race!
Loved the run. Always have. Watched when it was done before (stravereas(sp)). Amazing. BUT I couldn't get over a commentator allowing others to finish their sentence. "Bad dates" choose wisely who you allow to talk.
Ps... if strav would have been able to talk.... power level over 9000
I saw mother brain miss one of those blue shots and it got me thinking. Could you save the Metroid? Is there a way to kill MB before she does enough damage to the baby metroid. Tas could probably dodge more than one shot and you were like 2 or so dodges away from killing MB prematurely probably.
if you lower mother brain's health to 0 during the fight, she dies right after you get rainbow beam. You can "save" the metroid, but that involves softlocking the game by putting the metroid out of reach of the onion rings when you are filled up with health
RBO is the most impressive speed run in gaming.
This game is so good!
Hopefully my brother will be there with metroid samus returns
Great run. SM runs are the best!
So this is where Screw comes in handy.
This was amazing!! 💯
Sitting there trying to figure out the game playing in the main hall behind Sent at 1:18:00. It's fuzzy, but I think it's Actraiser 2.
Kind of looks like Super Castlevania IV to me
Oat's comments about 47 Ceres had me check the scoreboard.
Zeni took it from him with a 47.400 a few months ago :V
Can someone tell me in clear terms, what is the practical, functional difference between a reserve tank and an E tank? With auto mode, don't they basically just act the same?
Or put differently, what's the benefit to having one over the other?
And I don't mean because of specific glitches or nuances for speedrunning, I mean for normal playthroughs.
Short answer: not much.
Flavor answer: I like to think the dev's added reserves to enhance the believability of how high tech Samus' suit is. Just like in any action packed sifi.. When things get ugly the reserves kick in to save the day!
Real answer: pretty much just those two combined. Kind of a second chance for beginers to try and step back and work their way out if dire straits.
In advanced game play, such as the randomizer tournament, high level players don't even pick up reserve tanks at times cuz they are almost useless unless they are short on e-tanks and heat runs are inevitable. They come empty and must be filled before they are of use and they don't fill up your energy either. Somthing that e-tanks do and can be a saving grace in runs such as this one, actually making it possible to pull off.
In the end: reserves are just another fun dynamic in a beautifully well made game. They don't really serve much of a purpose once you know the game and just play casually, yet are another dynamic these guys have exploited in the right situations to, yet again, pull off the unthinkable.
Reserve Tanks can be popped manually so they're great for sequence breaking in Norfair
Oats has a good sense of humor about himself.
"Save the frames, kill the animals!"
"Kill the animals, save the frames!"
This run: "Why not both?"
you said the same thing twice.
Kinda hard to not do both of those at once
nice speed run!
I came here to shout ORB and ended up weeping ;_; much love sharing, many MANY orbs gotten
lol only in GDQ we will hear "lets get those animals killed!" followed by cheerful screaming 😂😂