Thanks for this David. My final concept skate would run on trucks raised by 4mm and widend by 5mm to take a 72mm wheel of this design. I belive this would up the velocity without a loss of stabilty and close some the gap in speed between inlines and quads.
I would really love to try some of these mods on my own skates. Do you have a way to share any of the specs you wrote down while designing and creating these so I could use them as reference? Like some of the measurements and the tools used? I have a whole machine shop full of equipment at my disposal. Let me know what you think. Thanks
I'm a hockey guy (my only skates are Tour Code 2s), so I like the looks of these. If I were to get on quads for the 1st time in my adult life, something like these would be it. On a completely unrelated note, what good quality quads would you recommend for a teenage girl? She's 14, skated inline since she was a little kid and recently told me she'd like to try quads. Thinking about getting her a pair this fall for her b-day. General purpose rec skates, mostly for outdoor use.
Hey Joe! I guess it depends what kind of skating she wants to do! If she is interested in Jam skating maybe a pair of Vanilla Jrs. Or if rhythm skating a pair of Moxis. I’d recommend getting some more input first. Lots of expert opinions to be had at the Facebook group “Rollerskating World Wide”.
Thanks for this video! Interesting about the boot shape being effected by the front bolts. For someone looking to build this, a skateboard truck riser might work (will need to be shaped to the boot) for the wedge in the front (between boot and plate). Hope someone from the industry is watching this!
I'm a new skater and I've been rolling for more than 2 weeks now and I can do most of the tricks like the sprint at the first of the race, L/T break, turns, 2 wheels (all of them front and back and both) and couple days ago i learnt back. it was hard to learn back but I attempted to do it. I like to street skate but the roads are bad and the good roads are away of my house. I'm from Egypt and its hard to find good streets in my whole city. my questions are: 1- am I good enough to street skate? 2- what should I learn that would help? 3- how to instant break even if it will throw me away from where am I (to prevent crashes). 4- is there a frame that accepts 3 wheels and 4 wheels at the same time? like its designed for that. Appreciate your time!
It’s very common around me to have that front wedge/shim to preserve the skate shape, my daughter has a set of edea wave boots mounted to roll-line variant plates with the shim upfront, several teammates are running the same setup.
Was a jam skater back in the 90s also was an aggressive skater in the late 90s. I just turned 40 and miss skating. What are some good skates for shuffle skating practice on the streets and the also for the rink now a days?
Oh come on...I need these in my life. The wheels look amazing. I ride on Pulse Atom Wheels 65mm 78A and the debri is killing me...but they are the best out there for street skating on quads.
I can put you in contact with the engineer that built them. His Instagram is: instagram.com/patinador_si?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= He built other sets for a few more skaters as well. I see Silva Surfer (Bret Davies) using his on IG from time to time as well.
I own 2 pairs of bauer roller skates size 6 and size 7, my shoes are size 7 but size 7 skates are not fitted and have lots of room but size 6 is tight around ankles but squishes my toes at front
I've seen quad wheels with center grooves but not quite as pronounced as your customs. Have you considered trying some skateboard or inline wheels? I'm just a beginner so probably can't provide the insight someone like you could. I already have some skateboard and inline wheels ready for testing once I finish mounting my quads. Skateboard wheels might be nice for dancing as you can get them quite small, hard, and both edges rounded with a ~2cm flat contact patch. Inline wheels with bullet profile probably beat anything for rolling over stones and debris, but catching an edge might be terrifying.
Since you posted the rollline killer vid. I got a set as well and have tried some of their Animal wheels, they are great indoors. I have become a huge fan of RL, love everything but the metric treads. Thanks for the vid.
In order to preserve the shape of the boot you have to use plates that have the front curve to preserve the shape, for instance Rio Roller plates do this. As for the heel you can make your own with a custom height by cutting off a heel off a cheap pair of roller skates and twaeking the weight not exactly what you want it to be.
No. Hockey skates notoriously run very small. My sneaker is 8.5-9 US and I wear a 7 in Bauer. Get fitted or measure your feet and order from a size chart.
Now you have got to learn Galloping/chopping 🙂 ruclips.net/video/mZyBI1_SHJo/видео.html I am building a similar setup right now and will be adding a variant plate, though it is my regular shortish size. I custom made a slightly slanted heel, taking inspiration from some European quad hockey boots i have. Will also add an edea wedge, which isn't as high as the wedge on yours but with the custom shaped heel, should be just right. I also already have the roll line outdoor wheels which I love. Interesting about the shaving the top surface and the central channel. I might be brave and give that a go ☺
@@flambzabuza3933 it did work well and I def think the heel is needed but I have since disassembled them. The boots were pretty old, the padding virtually non existant and even though I tried to heat mold them to make the fit better it just wasn't working with my feet. With better boots it might have been fine. I can see the appeal if you want a really tough pair of outdoor skates.
How do you know the uks skating in these hockey converts? It would be sick to try these skates out. As always good video man. Can you make a video on emergency stops
For a long time I didn’t know, but I posted a few photos of these after I got them and a lot of viewers in the UK were telling me that had some as well. And yah I need to work on some tutorials. It’s been to hot out to skate lately. Like over 100 Fahrenheit every day for six weeks.
No disrespect because I'm sure you are completely unaware but "Simon Burgess" is NOT the originator of the ice hockey conversions boot. It is well documented in the skate community that it was designed & invented by a guy called "Ash Fahrenheit" & you can read all about the orgins in Amazon book series "The Evolution Of skating". It was racism & the inability to be able to compete as a Black ice hockey player which caused him & his team to convert these skates in 1989. But I'm sure "Simon" IS responsible for the skates he sent you. Just thought I would help with the fact checking in case anybody watching this video was not fully informed. Let's not white wash Black history achievements please. ✌🏽
Not sure if you watched the whole thing, but just in case, I’ll reiterate that Simon only took a design that already existed and made his own changes to it. I clearly stated this in the video. I even showed examples of other hockey conversions that you can buy from retailers.. I’m not sure where you got that I implied that he invented or originated this design..
To be clear, I appreciate you sharing facts about history of roller skating. I am aware and fully acknowledge the massive impact that the black community has had and still has within roller skating. I only want to clarify that I did not say, nor did I imply that the person who sent me this skate invented the hockey conversion skate. Nor did he ever at any point claim to me that he did. He very clearly told me that this skate is popular where he lives in the UK and he only wished to build his own pair that had specific features he could not find in conversion skates from shops or retailers.
I will at some point discuss this. If you go back in my video log I have a History of Roller Skating video that covers the invention of the first skates, up until the very early 1900s. I’ve intended to make a part two of this and have not had the time, but I mentioned in that video that the time period that part two would take place is after the early 1900s. Which means that we will definitely be covering what you are talking about here.
@@DeezSkates Great.. I look forward to watching in the future.🙏🏾 I just thought it would have been useful to acknowledge or at least find out the orgins of how the skate platform had even come to pass. Especially considering you take a keen interest in the history of skates. But at least you now know where to find this information so you can also share with your audience. Maybe even reach out to him so we can all know more & if Bauer are working with him?
I never said I was the originator of the convert skate. However I've maxed out this concept with a number of alterations that you won't find anywhere else. I have been making theas skates since 1995 in that time I recon I've almost perfected it with my alterations.
Thanks for this David.
My final concept skate would run on trucks raised by 4mm and widend by 5mm to take a 72mm wheel of this design. I belive this would up the velocity without a loss of stabilty and close some the gap in speed between inlines and quads.
I would really love to try some of these mods on my own skates. Do you have a way to share any of the specs you wrote down while designing and creating these so I could use them as reference? Like some of the measurements and the tools used? I have a whole machine shop full of equipment at my disposal. Let me know what you think. Thanks
@@steffinolte5355 Hes keeping them to himself lol
Dear @simonburgess5968 ,
Have you considered providing your skate plate concept to Valkyrie Truck Co. and the wheel concept to CloudRide?
@@user-zc5ft9nw9bexactly gatekeeping a skate build is crazy lol
Those wheel ideas are amazing and would love to see more like these for outdoor quad wheels.
I'm a hockey guy (my only skates are Tour Code 2s), so I like the looks of these. If I were to get on quads for the 1st time in my adult life, something like these would be it. On a completely unrelated note, what good quality quads would you recommend for a teenage girl? She's 14, skated inline since she was a little kid and recently told me she'd like to try quads. Thinking about getting her a pair this fall for her b-day. General purpose rec skates, mostly for outdoor use.
Hey Joe! I guess it depends what kind of skating she wants to do! If she is interested in Jam skating maybe a pair of Vanilla Jrs. Or if rhythm skating a pair of Moxis. I’d recommend getting some more input first. Lots of expert opinions to be had at the Facebook group “Rollerskating World Wide”.
Thanks for this video! Interesting about the boot shape being effected by the front bolts. For someone looking to build this, a skateboard truck riser might work (will need to be shaped to the boot) for the wedge in the front (between boot and plate). Hope someone from the industry is watching this!
I'm a new skater and I've been rolling for more than 2 weeks now and I can do most of the tricks like the sprint at the first of the race, L/T break, turns, 2 wheels (all of them front and back and both) and couple days ago i learnt back. it was hard to learn back but I attempted to do it. I like to street skate but the roads are bad and the good roads are away of my house. I'm from Egypt and its hard to find good streets in my whole city. my questions are:
1- am I good enough to street skate?
2- what should I learn that would help?
3- how to instant break even if it will throw me away from where am I (to prevent crashes).
4- is there a frame that accepts 3 wheels and 4 wheels at the same time? like its designed for that.
Appreciate your time!
Great review and options for change. I have bauer's with ventro wheels, in the UK. They're great boots.
It’s very common around me to have that front wedge/shim to preserve the skate shape, my daughter has a set of edea wave boots mounted to roll-line variant plates with the shim upfront, several teammates are running the same setup.
That’s an artistic skate though. Not common with this type of setup. Manufactures who make these just mount the front completely flat.
Was a jam skater back in the 90s also was an aggressive skater in the late 90s. I just turned 40 and miss skating. What are some good skates for shuffle skating practice on the streets and the also for the rink now a days?
Oh come on...I need these in my life. The wheels look amazing. I ride on Pulse Atom Wheels 65mm 78A and the debri is killing me...but they are the best out there for street skating on quads.
Finally! I'd been waiting for this!
I love the look of these boots, frame set up!
I’m an inliner, but do like the quad look, they’re just cooler
Enjoyed this video. Would like a more detailed look at this skate. I might look into building my own and feel any information would help
I can put you in contact with the engineer that built them. His Instagram is:
instagram.com/patinador_si?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
He built other sets for a few more skaters as well. I see Silva Surfer (Bret Davies) using his on IG from time to time as well.
I own 2 pairs of bauer roller skates size 6 and size 7, my shoes are size 7 but size 7 skates are not fitted and have lots of room but size 6 is tight around ankles but squishes my toes at front
THESE ARE MY GUILTY PLEASURE . LOVE TO WATCH YOU SKATE ITS SOOOO PEACEFULL. GOD BLESS THANKYOU
I want these soo bad!
Hey great podcast. Been using these skates or a pair similar for maybe 7 years now. I use mine at our roller discos. So easy to put on and off...
Awesome review found the difference between these skates and the uk built ones very interesting and didn’t realise these differences spot on review 👍
Very nice vid bro!. I dunno why i didnt see this before. Interesting concept. Would love to see some new stuff come out,, its well pastime!
I've seen quad wheels with center grooves but not quite as pronounced as your customs. Have you considered trying some skateboard or inline wheels? I'm just a beginner so probably can't provide the insight someone like you could. I already have some skateboard and inline wheels ready for testing once I finish mounting my quads. Skateboard wheels might be nice for dancing as you can get them quite small, hard, and both edges rounded with a ~2cm flat contact patch. Inline wheels with bullet profile probably beat anything for rolling over stones and debris, but catching an edge might be terrifying.
Since you posted the rollline killer vid. I got a set as well and have tried some of their Animal wheels, they are great indoors. I have become a huge fan of RL, love everything but the metric treads. Thanks for the vid.
They are a few pairs of the skates on eBay they’re just shipping from overseas
In order to preserve the shape of the boot you have to use plates that have the front curve to preserve the shape, for instance Rio Roller plates do this. As for the heel you can make your own with a custom height by cutting off a heel off a cheap pair of roller skates and twaeking the weight not exactly what you want it to be.
Idk who Simon is but if he made these skates then I love him
I’m building a pair right now I got the grey white black red boots they’re so hard paid 100 now I gotta order heels and the rest of the parts
Very interesting quads/hockey skates! I would buy these if available.
These skates look insaneeeeeee 😍
Do those Bauer skates are true to size? I’m 9,5 on sneakers are the Bauer the same?
No. Hockey skates notoriously run very small. My sneaker is 8.5-9 US and I wear a 7 in Bauer. Get fitted or measure your feet and order from a size chart.
@@DeezSkates sorry but from your dimensions description its the opposite no? Bauer skates run larger no? Cheers mate
need street skates bad i keep switching my wheels that boot makes sense .... i dont wanna get moxi skates
I would still roll with AVANTI MAGS thou
Now you have got to learn Galloping/chopping 🙂
ruclips.net/video/mZyBI1_SHJo/видео.html
I am building a similar setup right now and will be adding a variant plate, though it is my regular shortish size. I custom made a slightly slanted heel, taking inspiration from some European quad hockey boots i have. Will also add an edea wedge, which isn't as high as the wedge on yours but with the custom shaped heel, should be just right.
I also already have the roll line outdoor wheels which I love. Interesting about the shaving the top surface and the central channel. I might be brave and give that a go ☺
I can already do this no problem. :)
That's a good tutorial. Hope everything on your build turns out great!
How is it going
@@flambzabuza3933 it did work well and I def think the heel is needed but I have since disassembled them. The boots were pretty old, the padding virtually non existant and even though I tried to heat mold them to make the fit better it just wasn't working with my feet. With better boots it might have been fine.
I can see the appeal if you want a really tough pair of outdoor skates.
Yo D, can we get a dedicated video of you trying all your stuff in those boots......Yeah
Yo D, is that a inline boot on quads..... lol
Wow theses are great
I hope you see this message but hey man do you mess around with the front part of your trucks/plates on the vnla to turn more ?
Very good video
How do you know the uks skating in these hockey converts? It would be sick to try these skates out. As always good video man. Can you make a video on emergency stops
For a long time I didn’t know, but I posted a few photos of these after I got them and a lot of viewers in the UK were telling me that had some as well. And yah I need to work on some tutorials. It’s been to hot out to skate lately. Like over 100 Fahrenheit every day for six weeks.
@@DeezSkates yea most of the uk are on these type of skates. appreciate you man
@@DeezSkates check out Vol 4 of Amirah Palmer's Evolution of Skating for why the a lot of the UK skates hockey converts
I just made me some of these
Butbu didnt sho us the boot m8!
No disrespect because I'm sure you are completely unaware but "Simon Burgess" is NOT the originator of the ice hockey conversions boot.
It is well documented in the skate community that it was designed & invented by a guy called "Ash Fahrenheit" & you can read all about the orgins in Amazon book series "The Evolution Of skating".
It was racism & the inability to be able to compete as a Black ice hockey player which caused him & his team to convert these skates in 1989.
But I'm sure "Simon" IS responsible for the skates he sent you.
Just thought I would help with the fact checking in case anybody watching this video was not fully informed.
Let's not white wash Black history achievements please.
✌🏽
Not sure if you watched the whole thing, but just in case, I’ll reiterate that Simon only took a design that already existed and made his own changes to it. I clearly stated this in the video. I even showed examples of other hockey conversions that you can buy from retailers.. I’m not sure where you got that I implied that he invented or originated this design..
To be clear, I appreciate you sharing facts about history of roller skating. I am aware and fully acknowledge the massive impact that the black community has had and still has within roller skating. I only want to clarify that I did not say, nor did I imply that the person who sent me this skate invented the hockey conversion skate. Nor did he ever at any point claim to me that he did. He very clearly told me that this skate is popular where he lives in the UK and he only wished to build his own pair that had specific features he could not find in conversion skates from shops or retailers.
I will at some point discuss this. If you go back in my video log I have a History of Roller Skating video that covers the invention of the first skates, up until the very early 1900s. I’ve intended to make a part two of this and have not had the time, but I mentioned in that video that the time period that part two would take place is after the early 1900s. Which means that we will definitely be covering what you are talking about here.
@@DeezSkates Great.. I look forward to watching in the future.🙏🏾
I just thought it would have been useful to acknowledge or at least find out the orgins of how the skate platform had even come to pass.
Especially considering you take a keen interest in the history of skates.
But at least you now know where to find this information so you can also share with your audience.
Maybe even reach out to him so we can all know more & if Bauer are working with him?
I never said I was the originator of the convert skate. However I've maxed out this concept with a number of alterations that you won't find anywhere else. I have been making theas skates since 1995 in that time I recon I've almost perfected it with my alterations.
Im sorry........the notion is great....but.....those skates are not cool.......no offense ✌
No worries! You like what you like. Thanks for commenting!