@@AutoExpertJC I get their fawning over the production process, it's actually kinda impressive what they've done for the stainless steel processes. The problem is it's making an end product that isn't viable long term.
That's cos the CT is better than all other shit that has ever existed. It even looks amazing, apart from its myriad other premium attributes. How about the drag race with a porsche... wait.... what's that...? A trailer with a porsche on it.... I mean, come on dudes. This is an extraordinary vehicle on oh so many levels. If you can't see that, may your crotches rot with infestations of rabid fleas from the cesspit swamp you inhabit.😊
@@AutoExpertJC Ever drive the F150 lighting? It's pretty cool with the locking rear differentials, but if you want more power and no Bullshittery, get a Rivian or Cybertruck. I have the R1S, and it's solid. Built by hungover Illinioian rednecks, It's the best all-around Rig for offroading in the Mountains to Racing a 911 up the switchbacks!! 🤣 The Cybertrucks are supposed to be faster and HARDER! Maybe I'll be lucky enough to Shred in one!🤣🤣
Here in Edmonton, AB Canada, the city transit company bought 60 electric buses and only 15 are still worikng---why? don't really know--something about lack of spare parts
A number of electric bus builders who sold their platforms are no longer in business. Which means when something goes wrong there no way to repair them.
Where does Elon claim he's a genius?? How many great engineers has he surrounded himself with? Why is spacex and tesla the most desired place to work for by stem graduates?? The fact that you are resorting to attacking the man not his message is an adhomien attack, plus have you seen Sandy Munroes tour of the cyber truck manufacturing line? Or are you deliberately ignoring that and many other highly advanced tech in there manufacturing lines.
@@brettmciver432 Please; listen to what EJ said about being a manufacturing genius, and knowing more than everyone else. There's your "genius", so no ad hominem attack made. STEM grads are going where the money is now; they aren't worried about staying around for a pension. So zero support there for an argument about EJ being a genius, and the CyberTruck being the second coming of trucks. And the CyberTruck assembly line video is countered by a YT video showing the terrible bodywork quality of the truck, despite all the "highly advanced tech" which doesn't seem to work terribly well. There are also other YT videos pointing out obvious issues.
@@markh.6687 Sooo because he said he knows probably more about manufacturing than anyone else out there that makes him a genius? No he's learned from all those other engineers,. Metalurgists, etc all that he has so he's probably not far off being true on that statement and it's thanks to all his engineers educating him and him jumping on the lines and learning on the job. He's probably not far off being true, makes cars, rockets etc, now the tesla bot? How much info is he learning from those parts of his businesses about manufacturing?
@@markh.6687 If something runs into them (whatever it may be) and they have no escape route or potential to stop. accident is inevitable, no ai can stop that, Its only a matter of time.
you left out the good bits, the car had some slight damage to the under tray protecting the battery and it is for that reason the dealership technicians said the battery should be replaced because they don't have a diagnostic crystal ball to tell if any batteries have been upset and might spew fire and brimstone at some future date. Hyundai Canada has now taken control of the situation but I am not sure what that means because the car owners insurance will still not pay for the battery.
"A miracle battery is just about to be available any day now, you'll see". Basically every BEV fanboy when they have to defend the actual performance of batteries.
Rechargeable-battery power tools can be convenient, but I’ll always prefer one that runs off the mains. The amount of torque one can get out of a high-quality bit brace (might have to buy an antique one, definitely need to buy adapters for some modern socket wrench sockets) is astounding and beats that of most battery tools handily.
I've written this before and will continue to do so appearently forever: Batteries are neither new- now high-tech. We had about 250 years of exploring every combination of elements since Alessandro Volta. There are no breakthroughs to expect. just slight improvements in manufaturing and all of them have their downsides. Make the separator slimmer but increase the risk of catastrophic failure through growing metal dendrites, or use a more robust chemistry but lose capacity. Overall capacity will increase slightly over time, thats sure, but will never triple over night like all the BEV-hippies proclaim to happen "in the next two years". These claims are just made to screw investors. ...oh, and it's always "in two years" since I heard this the first time in the 1990ies.
Excellent content from John Cadogan. The infamous Tesla Batt Boy Day when the concept of digging up the earth from one USA state for 'processing' and dumping the remains in beeter shape that when first extracted was but one memorable moment. The dry coating process shreiked 'unfinished' and possibly covered by a shrill 'unproved'. 4680 is the new batt direction for the automotive BEV sector, but as with most aspects of Li-Ion batt technology, progress towards volume production remains challenging. We should also remember the 4680 batt is the very first to come from Tesla. All previous cells were made by third parties, even when branded' Tesla'.
If we have to go electric then Dodgem Cars are the way to go. Overhead electrical network = unlimited range and the bumper system will virtually eliminate fatalities
One thing they barely mentioned about the bulletproof claims is that the Cybertrough is only bulletproof for subsonic rounds, you just know some peanut will fire the wrong round at his friend in the passenger seat for a viral TikTok video and quickly find out it really isn't bulletproof.
@@jackmorganfiftyfiveI value my life far more than that of any president, I think that’s an incredibly short sighted thing to say. Why are they special?
@@Theweouthereforrealclub- Well, there is the bit about Presidents being considered leaders for entire nations, and not considered expendable by polite society, so that their sudden demise by hands of violent persons is seen as somewhat more of a loss than the demise of ordinary individuals.
Great report thanks John. I think if a new Ute was in my future I’d sooner a traditional 6 cylinder petrol Ute over a Cyber urinal would be on the cards any day. Think I could buy a good Ute, do a ground up rebuild and still have change left over and I wouldn’t have range anxiety, busted or busy fast chargers or thermal runaway to worry about.
@@aljoubert8749 shit no as I said “I’d sooner a traditional 6 cylinder PETROL Ute”. The day I buy or even want an EV or even a Hybrid will be the day I have myself institutionalised.
@@aljoubert8749 Ground up rebuild wouldn’t be “modifying the crap out of it” either it would be a refresh maybe a turbocharger tops. My old VZ Ute was lowered when I bought it and I put it back to stock height. Any car I own is for practice use. I’m a 60 year old not a look at poser kid. When you look at the comparison between a traditional Ute and the cyber Urinal the cyber urinal is an absolute useless downgrade.
@rayjohnson6286 give it time and your EVs will be up Shit Creek with the rest of the delusional garbage being shoved down our throats today. Think you’d better get with the program EVs are going no where. They are nothing be a fanciful idea in a country like ours and are little more than a passing joke.
I have the Rivian R1S, I beat the heck out of it everyday and it's solid.Not as bulletproof as the Cybertruck, but hell of allot better than any other vehicle I have ever driven ever. Ask me what I've driven.. 😀
4680 cells are already in Model Y and semi (of which 100 are on the road, each 800kWh batteries). Its not experimental, and I could have saved 18 min by reading whats already in an article!
Indeed. What Tesla is trying to do now , is improve upon the 4680 with some dry version. (Just the usual tesla stuff, flash-iterating over current processes to make them better)
re: "4680 cells are already in Model Y and semi..." ref: "During the Q3 2022 earnings call, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that the Tesla Semi DOES NOT use the 4680-type cylindrical battery cells..." re: "100 are on the road..." ref: "36 Tesla Semi Class 8 tractors to PepsiCo and Frito-Lay in California. 21 of them are in use at the Pepsi distribution center in Sacramento and the other 15 are servicing the Frito-Lay distribution center in Modesto".
To be fair to electric Jesús [who does not deserve any fairness] all 4-cab bucket utes have nearly doubled in price from pre-pandemic prices. For example, you could pick up a base model GWM king cab bucket ute for $20,000 in 2019, but they are now retailing at $30,000 for the same base model, albeit with a few electronic gadgets thrown in. There are similar price rises in nearly all makes for the same period in question, as far as I am aware. Everybody [meaning car makers] scrambled to add electronic gizmos to "value-add" and thus partly "justify" the huge price hikes. But the fact is that there was a world shortage of computer chips [especially ones that actually functioned properly] , and with current vehicles having at least 50 imbedded computers per unit, the math [reality] put supply down, but ironically, increased prices and waiting times. Hence inflation in the second-hand car market. Although the global pandemic did cause costs to rise due to production and supply chain problems, the main reason is that many corporations [including those in the vehicle industry, are impatient to recoup the profits they lost during the disruption. The problem is, a significant chuck of the vehicle customer base [especially consumers] have lost effective income, especially from food, accommodation and other living expenses, so there disposable income went down while vehicle prices increased sharply. This especially depressed a big sector of the potential electric buyers market, especially in the USA. There are just fewer buyers in the lower middle class, plus corporate fleets are not being turned over as quickly. Because electric cars are more expensive, then they will suffer the most depressed sales figures in an "oranges to oranges" comparison. [Base model ICE to base model ELECTRIC]. So most people are confronted by not only an electric shit-box, but an expensive electric shit-box with inadequate recharging infrastructure in many areas. Although in general economies are [allegedly] improving, there has been some downward mobility-more people are joining the working poor class, because most disposable income has evaporated within this cohort. "Trickle-down" only really works in booming, broad spectrum times, and even then it is usually a case of crumbs, rather than a banquet for those at or near the bottom.
With all the truly disturbing sh** on the net these day, this DUDE's show is more than fresh air. It's fresh air, fishing, shooting, and a pretty woman, and pizza, kind of enjoyable, and funny, can't beat it.
You keep dunking on Tesla. However, they have gone from 0 to selling 1,300,000 cars per year in a decade. That is not too shabby. They must be doing something right. And Tesla did transform EVs from something we laughed about (see CityEl, Kewit, ...) to something desirable.
The Cybertruck shape is reminiscent of a particular Lead fishing sinker my dad used off the rocks in the 80s..... same size to weight ratio as well, I bet. Great content. Stu. Melbourne
All of this from the dude who has delivered on every promise on time and revolutionised every industry. Not to mention knows more about manufacturing than any other person alive …. 😂😂😂
Which is why nobody is buying expl#sive Vehicles and manufacturers are over supplied and slashing production. Many are back tracking on their ev plans. You fan boys need a reality sandwich
You mentioned polytetrafluoroethylene ( PTFE) we used it at work in the electronics industry. Not something you would want to burn. Seems to be in all EV batteries?. Great video, thank you
Lithium is very common, Tesla has acquired massive deposits of Lithium. They have mass deposits in Europe in South America, here in America and Australia. There will never be a shortage of Lithium. But they will have a hell of a time meeting the demand of 10 million Cyber Truck orders in only a few years.
re: "There will never be a shortage of Lithium." great, if only batteries could be made then using 100% Lithium instead of how they're currently made using a max of 5% Lithium combined with 95% of other materials (that are already in high demand).
@phillyphil1513 the most demanding element is prob nickel but even with nickel there's still plenty as the nickel production sources already exist it's not anything new, if it was tungsten or titanium then it would be more worrisome
Another Auto expert who doesn't understand what he is talking about... 4680 cells are 2-3 months ahead of Cybertruck production and bottlenecks are many months into the future if they will never be the bottleneck....
The body looks like it was done with an inexpensive tool for bending sheet metal for HVAC ductwork. Hell, even the Ford Model T that started production 115 years ago (1908) had more complicated bodywork.
Eh, I kinda like the simple asthetics and not having to worry about paint/rust but that don't change the fact it's gonna be useless once the batteries go
@@big0bad0brad I'm still wondering what the hell this thing is besides something a slumlord uses to evict tenants. It's not an SUV, it's certainly not a pickup, and it's not a car.
The Ford Model T (1) had an enduring styling that still looks good, (2) was reliable for its time and (3) was cheap to make. Just like the Cyber Truck except for points (1), (2) and (3).
It's called a ramp, they are building the line seen the movies about production, yep it is all experimental till it gets done change is scary for old folks 😅
re: "scary for old folks". spotting regression and "Darwin-level dumbness" in society is also scary for us old folks. yeah, the wisdom (that can only be gained through life experience) teaches us what to look for.
No one talks about batteries in general and how badly they are affected by extremes of temperature especially cold temperature. It affects how much range they are capable of dramatically!
Bjorn Nyland does extensive range testing of EVs in Norway and has a very comprehensive database of efficiency of most EVs at various temperatures and average speeds.
Many people have tested Teslas in frigid weather. Range is indeed affected in a non-insignificant fashion, but their conclusion is that it stays perfectly usable, especially the models equipped with heat pumps.
That's the logic of the whole thing. Lithium is so dangerous that I doubt society in general, 30 years ago, would have even allowed it to be part of a vehicle or being handled and manufactured by basically untrained employees. @@emty9668
Back around 1880 there was guy with the very same pitch. Always promising a new revolutionary product "right around the corner". He raked in a lot of money and his scam wasn't discovered until after he died. (There's a video on YT but I don't remember his name.) EJ must have studied him carefully. They're like two peas in a pod.
yup John Keely/Keely Motor Co. but the irony is (despite Boyle's awesome Historical recap) we don't actually have to reach back that far in time, for we have SEVERAL CONVICTED FRAUDSTERS as current events in the news the past 3 years. ref: Beth Holmes/Theranos, Trevor Milton/Nikola, Sam Bankman Fried/FTX Crypto, and Charlie Javice/Frank. honorable mention to Bernie Madoff and the US Housing Market Collapse circa 2008... okay so this DOES beg the question, why is it exactly we as a society are AFRAID to see the Con Men (and Women) that are "grifting" right in front of our faces...? A: is it because (in the famed words of Colonel Jessup/Jack Nicholson) "WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" and all their lies and promises sound good to us...?
I saw a review of them. I forget where but the phrase "death trap" was used. What was done was the overlay of the crash of a ford F150 and a Tesla. The video speeds were matched so that the vehicle moved the same amount per frame and then the acceleration of the driver's heads were compared.
@@GDM22 We will have to wait for independent testing by the likes of the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) and the National Highway Transport Safety Authority (NHTSA) as Tesla has not submitted a vehicle for testing, yet, despite selling them to the public. Judging by Tesla's own release of their frontal impact testing, there's a reason why. The Cyber Truck, as it stands, is a ZERO STAR RATED DEATH TRAP.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Yes, will be interesting, as typically Tesla's have been right up there as the safest vehicles on the road in independent testing in the US and Europe.
@@AutoExpertJC At least DeLorean built real vehicles that are still on the road today; I've seen a couple of DMC's being driven in the Chicago suburbs. Rather cool to see them, and DeLorean never hyped like EJ does today.
@@Foobarski They're decades old and still around is the impressive part. Cybertrucks will be in the scrapyards far sooner. And time travel isn't the point; I was in tomorrow the day before yesterday, only to find out it was two days prior. Obviously I had an issue with the Time Computer needing a quantum re-calibration....good thing the backup worked, or I'd be two days late forever. Hmph!
The way Musk is going I'm more inclined to believe that Transformers will become a reality or Godzilla getting elected as Japanese PM before he gets these batteries sorted. Also with the Model Shit would the luxury special edition version be called the Show or would it just be the 3 previously metioned specs?
Tesla is starting a China Batt plant, to be finished and running 3rd quarter 2024. I expect 1 or 2 more to be announced in 2024. These plants are relatively simple, cheap and go up fast.
The way it looks leads me to believe it's merely a huge piss take by Elon, making a point that people will lap up anything he puts out even if it's something straight from someone's childhood sketch book. Fkn ridiculous, no way it's not a joke.
I think according to US law you can make about 1000 cars before having to make them pass safety regs. So no more than 1000 of these will be made, they'll be leased out to paid celebrity influencer types after signing strict NDAs, with strict conditions on use. The celeb influencers will make videos about them, drive them to events, etc, making it look like they are valid vehicles, then the useless devices will be given back to tesla. Marketing gimmick, nothing more.
All the hand-picked customers and reviewers just fall in line with the hype. There's likely good reason to, from their perspective in terms of $ etc but for me it looks like they've sold their soul to the devil. I don't care one way or another whether this thing succeeds or fails but I'm over this hyped up crap.
You do realise the current output is only a single battery line and that they will have 8 online by the end of 2024. Battery supply isn't limiting Cybertruck production. The lines not complete. They still have heaps more machines and material handling equipment to install. You really don't understand ramping up production. They expect to be at 250k a year by 2025. Every tesla model Starts off slow and slowly ramps up. There is like 80 sitting in the yard the other day. There is heaps of RUclips videos of customers getting theirs wrapped. So they are getting delivered. The Cybertruck has a lot of cutting edge manufacturing technology thats never been done before. Its a marvel of engineering
"The Cybertruck has a lot of cutting edge manufacturing technology thats never been done before. Its a marvel of engineering" That's on page 3 of the "welcome to the cult handbook" isn't it?
To those of you NOT in manufacturing: Scrapping 10-50 percent of anything, when first starting production is normal. Not desirable, but normal. So, don't allow this quoted statistic to influence you. EDIT: But, again, you're right on the money that each new owner is rolling the dice on getting a bad one. ...or two. ...or three
But isn't EJ already past "first starting production", trying to make 80-90K cells a day?? That's well past "startup"; that would have been maybe the first 5,000-10,000. EJ doesn't deserve a free pass to make junk at this point, especially given the statement that they didn't even have a way to test the cells they've made.
@@markh.6687 Well, yes and no. No, the battery production is NOT beyond or out of it's "first production stage". So, this is still normal to see these types of Scrap numbers. BUT, THIS is where the problem comes in, and the point of Rueters report quoted in the video. Because they are STILL in the first stage of sorting the batteries out, they should NOT be put in a production vehicle yet. EDIT: So, the problem isn't the high scrap numbers, it's the fact that they're putting a sketchy product in a production vehicle that's on the roads. And Side Note - It's entertaining when John calls Elon "Electric Jesus", but it just sounds 'cultish' when we say it...
Pre-production or prototype parts on production vehicles that will be sold to customers are a clear sign of quality issues. It is clear there has been a deviation from the plan. A capable person will see the failures without knowing any details. This would concern me on any car part. Having this discussion about a huge battery sends my anxiety to the moon.
I'm wondering how many tens of thousands of gallons of pristeen H20 it will take to calm one of these when it sets itself on broil, not to mention a semi, which may be a 10 alarm festivity. "A billionaire that never really grew up surrounded by yes men" I want that shirt. 😂
re: "Under-delivering on the other hand can drag on forever when you are EJ." exactly, that means it's a FEATURE not a "bug". unbeknownst, what you've just stumbled on is the "mechanism" that those working in Law Enforcement and Fraud Investigation will tell you is a "hallmark" of all the best SCAMS and CONS run in History (aw crap). that's right, the act of "kicking the can down the road" and "stringing their victims along" till the 12TH OF NEVER (by definition) produces the best monetary outcomes for the Fraudster... ref: Beth Holmes/Theranos, Trevor Milton/Nikola, Sam Bankman Fried/FTX Crypto, Charlie Javice/Frank, and let us not forget the grand daddy of them all Bernie Madoff/2008 Collapse of the US Housing Market. yeah, the whole point is NOT just to "steal money" but to also STEAL TIME (which as we know is also a form of "money").
Finally, i found someone who likes Elon Musk. I guess you don't sleep at night because of him and the Cybertruck, spacex, boring company, solar city, neuralink, X = Twitter. Yes, i guess you're right, imagine if you had his money, how many more things will you do with your unique intelligence. I'm sure with a couple of beers in your hand, you can make the world a safer place, a better place.
This God of Material Science is clearly showing his incompetency on his mismanagement of his chariot productions. His followers may just have to wait a little longer to truly experience range anxiety.
I love the railroad terminal urinal image, spot on! I like much about Elon, but it's always good for one to hear scathingly hilarious comments on the other side.
Thought: The battery buses in Sydney have a range of around 300km & cannot be used for more than 12 hours per day by virtue of the time to charge. This means they cannot replace diesel buses on the more intense rosters. However, at least they have the batteries on the roof. Whilst this is bad for handiling, at least if they catch fire, they are not underneath schoolchildren, families & the mobility impaired.
Like the gas powered buses they once had, where the gas tanks were on the roof making the buses sway so heavily that the mainframe needed to be reinforced to stop it from disintegrating.
@@georgejetson3648 The tell-tale visual sign of a lithium battery fire is the jets of hot material projected out. It doesn't look like a campfire, it looks like a flamethrower.
It truly is the comedic gift that keeps on giving - we have the prospect of Cybertrucks self-combusting, and it will be hilarious to watch the media try to spin their reports. Let's hope people don't get hurt.
Edison motors in Canada has 2 electric driven trucks, one is getting independent 3rd party testing and has a generator under the hood to give a better distance for the truck. I think they are going to test it as a logging truck after the other tests are done. They have also sold their set up to a few companies that will be doing further tests on the trucks they build for them. I worry more about the explosive fires than they seem to, but I do wish them luck and hope their trucks do well so they can keep building more trucks. They have a different plan using existing older trucks and retooling the drive train.
Good to hear about. I think that trucks, the real kind, are excellent candidates for the retrofit approach as they are usually an amalgum of outsources components. I wonder if they have retrofit tech for small cars? Googling them now.
@@Ray-dv1md Edison does have a CAT under the hood just attached to a generator to charge the batteries. They are a small company, but I hope things go well for them and they grow. One application he is looking to run is logging because you can charge the batteries when you are leaving the mountain and use the battery to get up the mountain when empty.
@@jeremyashford2145 Well a solid tractor with a million miles on the engine could be rebuilt or retooled as electric if the use is worth it. They are just looking at a small segment of trucking that the generator and batteries will work in.
Some recent Musk highlights ‘ i know more about manufacturing than anyone else alive ‘ Telling X advertisers to ‘ go away’ Using those other familiar words. The gift that keeps giving
small FYI - last week had a tech come out to fix a small gutter scuff on one of my alloy wheels. After paying him $165 for doing a fantastic job, I asked, "what's you next job?", "off to do two wheels on a Tesla..". Further enquiries discovered that he fixes 20+ Tesla wheels/week due to 1. the OEM tyre/wheel setup not allowing for the slightest error in judgement 2. Tesla wheels are made of a very lightweight, soft alloy. The slightest touch to a gutter or kerb causes more damage than the standard alloy but, as he said, " depending on the damage, I charge those dumb bastards roughly.$300/wheel, and no one is complaining...".
A little side note when it comes to the Mars mission we use gold on our satellites to protect them are very old satellite like what's used on Qualcomm has a quarter inch of gold that protects it from solar flares what are we going to do on Mars when the background radiation is higher than any human can stand
You are right. All this talk and mumbo jumbo about living on Mars is just that...talk. It'll never happen, and if they try it it will have fatal consequences and ultimately fail due to cost and catastrophes.
Fortunately water stops solar and cosmic radiation. All you need in a below ground building on Mars is a double roof with about a metre thickness of water or ice inside it. There are plenty of glaciers there at high to medium latitudes, you could just melt out a cave in a glacier and you'd have good protection. I know a planet where you don't need that kind of protection if we can just avoid making it uninhabitable. And no, I don't expect EVs to play a huge part in that. Battery production involves a lot of mining and some very toxic substances.
Musk has the best Engineers in the world including Aussie Engineers. Production will ramp up, and manufacturing engineering takes time. Tesla has done very well and give them credibility so far....lets see as EV haters want them to go down.
Not really. Look at the flat lining deliveries. If Musk can't keep pumping up his car sales 50% YOY, then Telsa fairly tale goes down the drain aaaaaaaaaaaaaand all the past frauds catch up with Musk. Musk joins his compatriots in fed camp is the inevitable outcome. LOL
John you will enjoy Sandy Munro giving his take on the extraordinary cyber truck, bulletproof, no problems, range 400 miles, straight panels, easy, batteries no problems, Elon is a genius, or not.
I have nothing against Elon Musk. I think he deserves some kudos for trying. That being said, the man should be in jail for attempting to jack up the Tesla Stock price by promising products he has to know Tesla is unable to deliver.
Put that kudos into real engineers and companies such as Toyota for continually improving technology that makes your life better. This distraction from real progress takes you away from real developments that are pretty amazing. It is easy to get in front of people, promise the world, take other people's money to ask other people to recruit people, pay lawyers to silence employees, and then behind closed doors jump up and down demanding they make your promises become reality. You could do this. Why even give kudos?
Would you not test a new product that has the potential to cause or solve problems in a Testing Lab. Not that I know very much about manufacturing BUT?
Loved this! You popped up in my feed. Had me at "What could possibly go wrong..." Great delivery, timing, presentation, etc. Thank You and Best Regards and Best Wishes for 2024
Serious question: Which is more valuable to society, someone like Elon who makes optimistic claims and always falls short, yet always moves the ball forward faster than almost anyone else, or RUclips pundits who continually criticize Elon while contributing nothing to progress of society?
re: "someone like Elon who makes optimistic claims and always falls short, yet always moves the ball forward faster than almost anyone else..." wait back up for a damn minute, before we blindly accept your bullsh!t narrative and get into any "presumptive discussions" about one person "adding value to society", the FIRST question we have to ask is this, Q1: why is it that you are so convinced that he is even "moving a ball forward" in the first place (as opposed to telling a lie to DEFRAUD and take all your money like we've already seen happen with the convicted criminals Beth Holmes, Trevor Milton, Sam Bankman Fried, Charlie Javice, etc)...? yeah, and then the SECOND question we have to ask is, Q2: do you want the truth, or do you just want to "feel good"...? now i ask this "series of questions" (which are serious) because it sounds like you kids just want to "feel good" and are therefore caught up with a psychology of CONFIRMATION BIAS and are "simultaneously suckered" by something known as the MYTH OF PROGRESS. ref: "The greatest DERANGEMENT of the mind is when one makes something SO because one wishes it to BE so..." - Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)... right, so this actually leads to a third question then, Q3: what if i told you that Elon's exploits are NOT "progressing" society in any way, shape, form, or fashion...? that's right, as i've famously said right here in JC's comment section many times already, "the History of technological development is NOT a fairytale where certain things are achieved and people live happily ever after", no, what happens in the real world is "both PRO-GRESS and RE-GRESS occurs in the History of technological development" (aw crap)... also reference: THE LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS, and also reference: the combined multi-Billion Dollar Insurance Claims (that's Billion with a "B") filed for the losses related to the Felicity Ace (now sitting beneath 8,000ft of water off the Azores), the losses related to the fire aboard the Fremantle Highway, and the losses related to the fiery collapse of the Luton Airport Carpark, London. #NOFREELUNCH
@@phillyphil1513 Probably mistake to reply to a low IQ person like yourself who starts out in attack mode and needs to have at least one word in all caps in every sentence, but I will try to make a serious reply. Elon has clearly moved the ball forward on EV technology. Whether EVs are the right solution is a different question, but Tesla clearly has led the way in EV technology. Elon has moved the ball forward in space flight. Anyone would have to be blind to not see that. Look at the number of SpaceX launches compared to anyone else: NASA, Europe, Russian, China, and the difference is stark. Elon has clearly moved the ball forward on space based internet communication. Compare StarLink to Viasat or Hughesnet or any other and the difference is night and day. You probably aren’t smart enough to see any of this, but the evidence is clear.
Can someone explain what happened to corporate responsibility? In a country ('Merica') famed for it's litigeous zeal, one might reasonably have imagined that such risk taking would not only want to be absolutely avoided by the in-house bean counters, but be otherwise regulated out of the realm of possibility anyway.
John! You might be an ICE car expert, but nothing more than a hater when it comes to EVs... and certainly no expert at all! Tesla has gone through hell at least twice in the ramping up of a product's manufacturing: the Model X and then the early Model 3 production. But they came out in both cases with flying colors! The Model Y ramp up went as smooth as butter! Yes, Tesla is presently experiencing difficulties ramping up their 4680 cell production... that much is true. But their past record can only lead to the conclusion that will overcome that in the coming months, rather than the contrary. They have amply proven that they have the engineers, the money and the will to solve that issue! Manufacturing is hard, as Elon said hundreds of times!
Can you please explain why we need more expensive and environmentally unfriendly EVs at all when Anthropogenic climate change is another scam and bald faced lie?
It's starting to look like the entire thing was lies from the ground up... Remember when he went to test the windows and smashed one lol total idiot.. Tesla is junk but all EV's are dangerous ticking time bombs IMO
You mean the kerb weight that hasn't been independently verified? Same as all the other stats about this monstrosity? It's a marketing gimmick, nothing more.
I like to believe that tesla backed down on the armored claim as it opens them up to litigation. I’m no expert but don’t you need a special permit to operate an armored vehicle in some jurisdictions?
I'm so glad I found this channel 😂 Here in southern Communistfornia theres EVs everywhere. I live on a long stretch of mountainous HWY 74 and ive often thought of putting my generator in one of my gas or diesel V8 trucks and offering charging service for a fee of course. Stranded EVs are all over C'mon people forget to charge their car just like forgetting to charge your phone
I don't expect to ever see the base model. Companies optimize for maximum profit. There is a old joke about cars and math. Q: If you add a $20 radio to a $15,000 car, what do you get? A: A $17,000 car
I'm in Vegas and during the summer those 8,000 pound "trucks" are going to destroy the tarmac roads. The extreme heat softens the tarmac and will not handle that kind of weight.
Oh goody, a battery powered urinal that you can drive. Does it have an internal blackwater tank, or do I have I have to tow one behind? Maybe EJ could team up with Hugh Janus- a diabolical partnershit indeed.
I'm a bit autistic, okay, whatever, but I don't understand any sort of anti-battery disposition. I use them to build electric mountain boards which go up to 40 miles, are dead silent, will climb any hill, etc. I love them. There is going to be growing pains in any new technology that comes along. Batteries enable us to take a significant portion of the power grid with us, and battery chemistry is constantly changing. We do have cell chemistries that can withstand as many as 30,000 cycles before they need replaced. These same chemistries (LTO) also do not fail catastrophically, even if you drive a spike through them, nor do they lose charge, and need to be kept warm, in cold weather. Thank goodness someone else is footing the bill to move things forward. I love the idea of EV's because i want to line my entire roof with solar panels, and maybe even my backyard, so I can power my vehicles, and toys, with the sun. We could potentially have an apocalypse, and the only cars on the road will be electric.. Just because it takes fossil fuels to convert into electric energy doesn't mean it always will. One must empower the other, and I work in the energy industry, and am dependent upon people using fossil fuels. With regard to Tesla Cybertruck's, I wonder if the only reason they aren't using 21700's, which I would much prefer, is cost.
Every time the battery is charged/discharged, it incurs increased impedance at the graphite anode is largely contributing to the capacity fading of such lithium-ion cells.
@@aljoubert8749The total number of km is not going to be a good number to hang your hat on. If someone drives an EV like they stole it and fast charges to 100% every time, the number of km won't be all that high. If another person drives like a sane person and charges overnight at home, the km number will likely not ever be reached before the car is scrapped for some other reason.
I think both do a pretty good job. I recommend Common Sense Skeptic as well. Very few dare to call out his BS. The majority are just happy licking Musk's boots nonstop.
@@Sonny_McMacsson You mean where he pointed out how and why his initial thought was incorrect? "I gotta admit, when I first saw this I thought it wasnt possible!! Pawing through the numbers it looks like this might be accessible." - ruclips.net/video/2xSDBNzAtPs/видео.html
@@blackberrythorns Oops, I killed my reply somehow. I'll restate it in short: He claimed a heli wouldn't fly on mars and really I think he talks out his arse at times. I put some napkin math as a reply in the video to show it wasn't even remotely outlandish but never saw any followup.
@@DerykRobosson I restated my original reply in another post after I did something dumb and erased it. I saw the original video and said why in the video it wasn't a good idea to be skeptical along with some simple math as to why the idea was entirely plausible. This was years before the mission took place. If he backpedaled or issued a correction I would never have seen it anyway because I put him behind me at that point. Even if there's a political ring to a science or engineering channel, it's gotta remain grounded. If they intentionally screw that up even once just to stir up feelings or controversy for views, I'm done with it. Actually, I gave him two chances anyway. It seems he's doing just fine with you guys.
Cyberurinal is definitely an experiment and as such is highly risky as a purchase in the first few years of production. 2024 production I figure will be about 5000 and I expect severely reilability issues and high insurance costs.
Sever reliability issue - like Tesla Model X? Worst reliable car in US according to consumer reports! YES!! High insurance costs? - like every insurance quote today for every Tesla car? YES! Musk fanboys: Duh, what you are talking about?????? LOL
@@coldspring22 I drove a 2016 X over 80,000 miles when I worked at Tesla. One day the AC failed and the it charge slowly, all I had to do to it was add some r134A from Orielly's. ICE COLD🥶AC
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It's so funny hearing experts like Sandy Munro and other car guys fawn all over the Cybertruck. They're just killing their credibility.
There does seem to have been a massive shift in tone there.
Munro has been a paid musk mouthpiece for years.
Sandy Moron is way past his prime, in other words a joke...
@@AutoExpertJC I get their fawning over the production process, it's actually kinda impressive what they've done for the stainless steel processes. The problem is it's making an end product that isn't viable long term.
That's cos the CT is better than all other shit that has ever existed. It even looks amazing, apart from its myriad other premium attributes. How about the drag race with a porsche... wait.... what's that...? A trailer with a porsche on it.... I mean, come on dudes. This is an extraordinary vehicle on oh so many levels. If you can't see that, may your crotches rot with infestations of rabid fleas from the cesspit swamp you inhabit.😊
Loved comparison to the railroad urinal LMAO! Brilliant!
It's what that abomination instantly reminded me of...
@@AutoExpertJC spmeone posted on twitter with a photo of a stainless urinal with the angles looking like the truck.
It's ugliness becomes a thing of beauty. Ala Sydney Opera House, Air Jordan 1 Black/red, John Cadogan.
@@AutoExpertJC Ever drive the F150 lighting? It's pretty cool with the locking rear differentials, but if you want more power and no Bullshittery, get a Rivian or Cybertruck. I have the R1S, and it's solid. Built by hungover Illinioian rednecks, It's the best all-around Rig for offroading in the Mountains to Racing a 911 up the switchbacks!! 🤣
The Cybertrucks are supposed to be faster and HARDER! Maybe I'll be lucky enough to Shred in one!🤣🤣
That’s a funny vid
Here in Edmonton, AB Canada, the city transit company bought 60 electric buses and only 15 are still worikng---why? don't really know--something about lack of spare parts
Very environmental, eh?
A number of electric bus builders who sold their platforms are no longer in business. Which means when something goes wrong there no way to repair them.
“He is a genius; Just ask him dude” ROFL 😂😂😂😂😂
EJ's business card is like Wiley E. Coyote's card: it has EJ's name and "Genius" on it.
Annnnnnnd then he woke up 🤣 Hes a genius at fooling many people though, to be fair.
Where does Elon claim he's a genius??
How many great engineers has he surrounded himself with?
Why is spacex and tesla the most desired place to work for by stem graduates??
The fact that you are resorting to attacking the man not his message is an adhomien attack, plus have you seen Sandy Munroes tour of the cyber truck manufacturing line?
Or are you deliberately ignoring that and many other highly advanced tech in there manufacturing lines.
@@brettmciver432 Please; listen to what EJ said about being a manufacturing genius, and knowing more than everyone else. There's your "genius", so no ad hominem attack made.
STEM grads are going where the money is now; they aren't worried about staying around for a pension. So zero support there for an argument about EJ being a genius, and the CyberTruck being the second coming of trucks.
And the CyberTruck assembly line video is countered by a YT video showing the terrible bodywork quality of the truck, despite all the "highly advanced tech" which doesn't seem to work terribly well. There are also other YT videos pointing out obvious issues.
@@markh.6687
Sooo because he said he knows probably more about manufacturing than anyone else out there that makes him a genius? No he's learned from all those other engineers,. Metalurgists, etc all that he has so he's probably not far off being true on that statement and it's thanks to all his engineers educating him and him jumping on the lines and learning on the job. He's probably not far off being true, makes cars, rockets etc, now the tesla bot? How much info is he learning from those parts of his businesses about manufacturing?
It's only a matter of time until we witness the worlds first all-EV highway pileup. It's going to be spectacular on every level.
I thought all the EVs had collision avoidance systems, and navigational deflectors as well.
@@markh.6687 What the hell is a "navigational deflector"?
Collision avoidance systems are useless on ice.
That’s right. Since ICE vehicles never run out of gas.
@@markh.6687 If something runs into them (whatever it may be) and they have no escape route or potential to stop. accident is inevitable, no ai can stop that, Its only a matter of time.
Grew up watching beyond 2000
1 in 100 come true.
I should be able to choose between the mono rail and my flying car to get to work.
in canada hyundai are charging $56,000 to replace batteries. good luck to anyone who buys an EV let alone a second hand one.
That is not fair! You are not including labor & tax, which pushes it over $60K.
you left out the good bits, the car had some slight damage to the under tray protecting the battery and it is for that reason the dealership technicians said the battery should be replaced because they don't have a diagnostic crystal ball to tell if any batteries have been upset and might spew fire and brimstone at some future date. Hyundai Canada has now taken control of the situation but I am not sure what that means because the car owners insurance will still not pay for the battery.
"A miracle battery is just about to be available any day now, you'll see". Basically every BEV fanboy when they have to defend the actual performance of batteries.
Exactly. They seem to forget EV's were already tried way back in the day.
Yeah - the performance is still shit, for EVs. Good for power tools and electronic devices.
@@AutoExpertJCmeh. My electric lawnmower lasts 10 minutes, whereas a canister of petrol would have lasted half the summer.
Rechargeable-battery power tools can be convenient, but I’ll always prefer one that runs off the mains. The amount of torque one can get out of a high-quality bit brace (might have to buy an antique one, definitely need to buy adapters for some modern socket wrench sockets) is astounding and beats that of most battery tools handily.
I've written this before and will continue to do so appearently forever: Batteries are neither new- now high-tech. We had about 250 years of exploring every combination of elements since Alessandro Volta. There are no breakthroughs to expect. just slight improvements in manufaturing and all of them have their downsides. Make the separator slimmer but increase the risk of catastrophic failure through growing metal dendrites, or use a more robust chemistry but lose capacity.
Overall capacity will increase slightly over time, thats sure, but will never triple over night like all the BEV-hippies proclaim to happen "in the next two years".
These claims are just made to screw investors.
...oh, and it's always "in two years" since I heard this the first time in the 1990ies.
Excellent content from John Cadogan. The infamous Tesla Batt Boy Day when the concept of digging up the earth from one USA state for 'processing' and dumping the remains in beeter shape that when first extracted was but one memorable moment. The dry coating process shreiked 'unfinished' and possibly covered by a shrill 'unproved'. 4680 is the new batt direction for the automotive BEV sector, but as with most aspects of Li-Ion batt technology, progress towards volume production remains challenging.
We should also remember the 4680 batt is the very first to come from Tesla. All previous cells were made by third parties, even when branded' Tesla'.
Musk wants to upgrade the brain with implants, maybe he could start with his own.
If we have to go electric then Dodgem Cars are the way to go. Overhead electrical network = unlimited range and the bumper system will virtually eliminate fatalities
Ready to drive a DodgeElectric, all the other electrics have been crazy so far! Absolutely insane!
covered in the Super Mario movie.
One thing they barely mentioned about the bulletproof claims is that the Cybertrough is only bulletproof for subsonic rounds, you just know some peanut will fire the wrong round at his friend in the passenger seat for a viral TikTok video and quickly find out it really isn't bulletproof.
there is no reason for a car to be bullet proof unless it carries cash or the President.
Candidate for the darwin awards
@@jackmorganfiftyfiveI value my life far more than that of any president, I think that’s an incredibly short sighted thing to say. Why are they special?
@@Theweouthereforrealclub- Well, there is the bit about Presidents being considered leaders for entire nations, and not considered expendable by polite society, so that their sudden demise by hands of violent persons is seen as somewhat more of a loss than the demise of ordinary individuals.
The windows are not bullet proof, the rolled them down before shooting to make sure they didn't break one with a miss.
Great report thanks John. I think if a new Ute was in my future I’d sooner a traditional 6 cylinder petrol Ute over a Cyber urinal would be on the cards any day. Think I could buy a good Ute, do a ground up rebuild and still have change left over and I wouldn’t have range anxiety, busted or busy fast chargers or thermal runaway to worry about.
@@aljoubert8749 shit no as I said “I’d sooner a traditional 6 cylinder PETROL Ute”. The day I buy or even want an EV or even a Hybrid will be the day I have myself institutionalised.
@@aljoubert8749 Ground up rebuild wouldn’t be “modifying the crap out of it” either it would be a refresh maybe a turbocharger tops. My old VZ Ute was lowered when I bought it and I put it back to stock height. Any car I own is for practice use. I’m a 60 year old not a look at poser kid. When you look at the comparison between a traditional Ute and the cyber Urinal the cyber urinal is an absolute useless downgrade.
@rayjohnson6286 give it time and your EVs will be up Shit Creek with the rest of the delusional garbage being shoved down our throats today. Think you’d better get with the program EVs are going no where. They are nothing be a fanciful idea in a country like ours and are little more than a passing joke.
well "soon" you won't be able to buy brand new non-EVs. Depending what country you live in.@@davegoldspink5354
I have the Rivian R1S, I beat the heck out of it everyday and it's solid.Not as bulletproof as the Cybertruck, but hell of allot better than any other vehicle I have ever driven ever. Ask me what I've driven.. 😀
4680 cells are already in Model Y and semi (of which 100 are on the road, each 800kWh batteries). Its not experimental, and I could have saved 18 min by reading whats already in an article!
Indeed. What Tesla is trying to do now , is improve upon the 4680 with some dry version. (Just the usual tesla stuff, flash-iterating over current processes to make them better)
re: "4680 cells are already in Model Y and semi..." ref: "During the Q3 2022 earnings call, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that the Tesla Semi DOES NOT use the 4680-type cylindrical battery cells..." re: "100 are on the road..." ref: "36 Tesla Semi Class 8 tractors to PepsiCo and Frito-Lay in California. 21 of them are in use at the Pepsi distribution center in Sacramento and the other 15 are servicing the Frito-Lay distribution center in Modesto".
To be fair to electric Jesús [who does not deserve any fairness] all 4-cab bucket utes have nearly doubled in price from pre-pandemic prices. For example, you could pick up a base model GWM king cab bucket ute for $20,000 in 2019, but they are now retailing at $30,000 for the same base model, albeit with a few electronic gadgets thrown in. There are similar price rises in nearly all makes for the same period in question, as far as I am aware.
Everybody [meaning car makers] scrambled to add electronic gizmos to "value-add" and thus partly "justify" the huge price hikes. But the fact is that there was a world shortage of computer chips [especially ones that actually functioned properly] , and with current vehicles having at least 50 imbedded computers per unit, the math [reality] put supply down, but ironically, increased prices and waiting times. Hence inflation in the second-hand car market.
Although the global pandemic did cause costs to rise due to production and supply chain problems, the main reason is that many corporations [including those in the vehicle industry, are impatient to recoup the profits they lost during the disruption. The problem is, a significant chuck of the vehicle customer base [especially consumers] have lost effective income, especially from food, accommodation and other living expenses, so there disposable income went down while vehicle prices increased sharply.
This especially depressed a big sector of the potential electric buyers market, especially in the USA. There are just fewer buyers in the lower middle class, plus corporate fleets are not being turned over as quickly.
Because electric cars are more expensive, then they will suffer the most depressed sales figures in an "oranges to oranges" comparison. [Base model ICE to base model ELECTRIC].
So most people are confronted by not only an electric shit-box, but an expensive electric shit-box with inadequate recharging infrastructure in many areas.
Although in general economies are [allegedly] improving, there has been some downward mobility-more people are joining the working poor class, because most disposable income has evaporated within this cohort. "Trickle-down" only really works in booming, broad spectrum times, and even then it is usually a case of crumbs, rather than a banquet for those at or near the bottom.
With all the truly disturbing sh** on the net these day, this DUDE's show is more than fresh air. It's fresh air, fishing, shooting, and a pretty woman, and pizza, kind of enjoyable, and funny, can't beat it.
You keep dunking on Tesla. However, they have gone from 0 to selling 1,300,000 cars per year in a decade. That is not too shabby. They must be doing something right.
And Tesla did transform EVs from something we laughed about (see CityEl, Kewit, ...) to something desirable.
The Cybertruck shape is reminiscent of a particular Lead fishing sinker my dad used off the rocks in the 80s..... same size to weight ratio as well, I bet.
Great content.
Stu. Melbourne
The Silver Sinker!
This?
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@rayjohnson6286
Elon fanboy found.
Every time I see it, it reminds me my old shiny refrigerator. 😂
All of this from the dude who has delivered on every promise on time and revolutionised every industry. Not to mention knows more about manufacturing than any other person alive …. 😂😂😂
"...any other person alive on earth today"
So there maybe an extraterrestrial who knows more, or a dead human on earth...
Maybe they found them on mars when they landed humans there last year….. oh wait.
Which is why nobody is buying expl#sive Vehicles and manufacturers are over supplied and slashing production. Many are back tracking on their ev plans. You fan boys need a reality sandwich
Every promise 😂 Delusional AF
I KNOW!!! I'm making $30,000 a year with my self driving taxi!!!
Merry Christmas John. You should do a story on the Hyundai Canada $60000 battery replacement cost.
what cost less then $40,000 and get 500 miles .... a 1972 C10 with extra gas tanks
My F350 has a 29-gallon tank good for 640 miles and is worth less than $40k with 254k miles on the clock.
Any old diesel hatchback will get you 500miles for under $5k.
You mentioned polytetrafluoroethylene ( PTFE) we used it at work in the electronics industry. Not something you would want to burn. Seems to be in all EV batteries?. Great video, thank you
Teflon flu, can be nasty....
Ah, the emperor's new clothes... Working better than your camouflage, I'd have to admit.
Been out for nearly a week John..I’d expect the Fud to at least arrive for Xmas..Lift your game John..
Lithium is very common, Tesla has acquired massive deposits of Lithium. They have mass deposits in Europe in South America, here in America and Australia. There will never be a shortage of Lithium. But they will have a hell of a time meeting the demand of 10 million Cyber Truck orders in only a few years.
Lithium mining industry already announced an impossible-to-solve shortage of lithium based on current and future EV battery demands.
Someone been drinking to much elon coolaid?
And used batteries non-recyclable. @@stusue9733
re: "There will never be a shortage of Lithium." great, if only batteries could be made then using 100% Lithium instead of how they're currently made using a max of 5% Lithium combined with 95% of other materials (that are already in high demand).
@phillyphil1513 the most demanding element is prob nickel but even with nickel there's still plenty as the nickel production sources already exist it's not anything new, if it was tungsten or titanium then it would be more worrisome
Another Auto expert who doesn't understand what he is talking about... 4680 cells are 2-3 months ahead of Cybertruck production and bottlenecks are many months into the future if they will never be the bottleneck....
You should really proof read your comments if you want people to take you serious.
You should go back in time and watch Elons bullshit cybertruck launch and all the claims he made.
I’m depressed following Christmas. I have over a kilogram of prawn heads, and cars nowadays don’t have hubcaps.
It is less fun these days.
We used dead chicken carcasses from my mates parents egg farm. Still funny but not as acutely pungent.
Pop them into people's air-conditioning ducts.
Some of them still have exhaust pipes
I loved all the different synonyms for the Cyberurinal 🤣
CyberSuck 😅
The body looks like it was done with an inexpensive tool for bending sheet metal for HVAC ductwork.
Hell, even the Ford Model T that started production 115 years ago (1908) had more complicated bodywork.
Eh, I kinda like the simple asthetics and not having to worry about paint/rust but that don't change the fact it's gonna be useless once the batteries go
@@big0bad0bradpresumably your batteries went flat somewhere on your uninterestingly sordid and miserable journey thru' life, eh?😅
@@big0bad0brad I'm still wondering what the hell this thing is besides something a slumlord uses to evict tenants. It's not an SUV, it's certainly not a pickup, and it's not a car.
@@big0bad0brad - just throw a CAT in the tray for the Diesel Punck - aesthetic, and long range convenience.
The Ford Model T (1) had an enduring styling that still looks good, (2) was reliable for its time and (3) was cheap to make. Just like the Cyber Truck except for points (1), (2) and (3).
It's called a ramp, they are building the line seen the movies about production, yep it is all experimental till it gets done change is scary for old folks 😅
re: "scary for old folks". spotting regression and "Darwin-level dumbness" in society is also scary for us old folks. yeah, the wisdom (that can only be gained through life experience) teaches us what to look for.
No one talks about batteries in general and how badly they are affected by extremes of temperature especially cold temperature. It affects how much range they are capable of dramatically!
Bjorn Nyland does extensive range testing of EVs in Norway and has a very comprehensive database of efficiency of most EVs at various temperatures and average speeds.
That’s why they have coolant heater’s
Many people have tested Teslas in frigid weather. Range is indeed affected in a non-insignificant fashion, but their conclusion is that it stays perfectly usable, especially the models equipped with heat pumps.
Wait for the comments that the battery has a heater that is powered by the battery.....
That's the logic of the whole thing. Lithium is so dangerous that I doubt society in general, 30 years ago, would have even allowed it to be part of a vehicle or being handled and manufactured by basically untrained employees. @@emty9668
Most any car line production from start is 5 to 6 years
Back around 1880 there was guy with the very same pitch.
Always promising a new revolutionary product "right around the corner".
He raked in a lot of money and his scam wasn't discovered until after he died.
(There's a video on YT but I don't remember his name.)
EJ must have studied him carefully. They're like two peas in a pod.
The Vapourware Salesman by Patrick Boyle.
yup John Keely/Keely Motor Co. but the irony is (despite Boyle's awesome Historical recap) we don't actually have to reach back that far in time, for we have SEVERAL CONVICTED FRAUDSTERS as current events in the news the past 3 years. ref: Beth Holmes/Theranos, Trevor Milton/Nikola, Sam Bankman Fried/FTX Crypto, and Charlie Javice/Frank. honorable mention to Bernie Madoff and the US Housing Market Collapse circa 2008...
okay so this DOES beg the question, why is it exactly we as a society are AFRAID to see the Con Men (and Women) that are "grifting" right in front of our faces...? A: is it because (in the famed words of Colonel Jessup/Jack Nicholson) "WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" and all their lies and promises sound good to us...?
Named ponzi
The Great El'con just don't look behind the Curtains.😅
Cyber-trough! Thank you John - this is how I will refer to this "product" from now on.
Cyber urinal / pisser my fav - 10:16 replace manufacturing with your choice. 🦶
What about crash tests for EVs?
I saw a review of them. I forget where but the phrase "death trap" was used. What was done was the overlay of the crash of a ford F150 and a Tesla. The video speeds were matched so that the vehicle moved the same amount per frame and then the acceleration of the driver's heads were compared.
EVs typically do better in a crash. The CT we will have to wait.
@@GDM22 We will have to wait for independent testing by the likes of the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) and the National Highway Transport Safety Authority (NHTSA) as Tesla has not submitted a vehicle for testing, yet, despite selling them to the public.
Judging by Tesla's own release of their frontal impact testing, there's a reason why. The Cyber Truck, as it stands, is a ZERO STAR RATED DEATH TRAP.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Yes, will be interesting, as typically Tesla's have been right up there as the safest vehicles on the road in independent testing in the US and Europe.
@@GDM22 Probably because they're heavier?
Ahhh, Delorean and Tesla. A match made in a conniving hell for the ages.
There are MANY similarities.
@@AutoExpertJC At least DeLorean built real vehicles that are still on the road today; I've seen a couple of DMC's being driven in the Chicago suburbs. Rather cool to see them, and DeLorean never hyped like EJ does today.
@@markh.6687 With time travel it really isn't all the impressive they are still around.
@@Foobarski They're decades old and still around is the impressive part. Cybertrucks will be in the scrapyards far sooner. And time travel isn't the point; I was in tomorrow the day before yesterday, only to find out it was two days prior. Obviously I had an issue with the Time Computer needing a quantum re-calibration....good thing the backup worked, or I'd be two days late forever. Hmph!
I'm waiting for the first Influenza to darwin themselves with a swiftly moving chuck of Pb because EJ said their cybercrap was bulletproof
The way Musk is going I'm more inclined to believe that Transformers will become a reality or Godzilla getting elected as Japanese PM before he gets these batteries sorted.
Also with the Model Shit would the luxury special edition version be called the Show or would it just be the 3 previously metioned specs?
The Show will be the launch edition of the Model 2hit, then revert to Sandwich, Fight and Storm.
Tesla is starting a China Batt plant, to be finished and running 3rd quarter 2024. I expect 1 or 2 more to be announced in 2024. These plants are relatively simple, cheap and go up fast.
The way it looks leads me to believe it's merely a huge piss take by Elon, making a point that people will lap up anything he puts out even if it's something straight from someone's childhood sketch book. Fkn ridiculous, no way it's not a joke.
Thanks for the latest update on EJ's failures, Sir John! And I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well.
As a Tesla Model 3 driver (and mostly satiesfies with it!) I thoroughly enjoy content. If you ever have been on a Tesla Fanboy forum you know why....
Tesla will sell every one they build... because it's a wanker mobile like all the stupid high end BMW , Porsche, Audi and the such like makes.
It is a twat magnet - and not in a good way.
Of course they will the production numbers are so measly it would be impossible not to.
I think according to US law you can make about 1000 cars before having to make them pass safety regs. So no more than 1000 of these will be made, they'll be leased out to paid celebrity influencer types after signing strict NDAs, with strict conditions on use. The celeb influencers will make videos about them, drive them to events, etc, making it look like they are valid vehicles, then the useless devices will be given back to tesla. Marketing gimmick, nothing more.
Google up " PT Barnum quotes " reckon 3/4 of them were written for Elon .
Yep, only for mall crawling tossers
The problem is clear. The Flux capacitor is not getting enough jigowatts..
Just needs a Mr Fusion.
All the hand-picked customers and reviewers just fall in line with the hype. There's likely good reason to, from their perspective in terms of $ etc but for me it looks like they've sold their soul to the devil. I don't care one way or another whether this thing succeeds or fails but I'm over this hyped up crap.
You do realise the current output is only a single battery line and that they will have 8 online by the end of 2024. Battery supply isn't limiting Cybertruck production. The lines not complete. They still have heaps more machines and material handling equipment to install.
You really don't understand ramping up production. They expect to be at 250k a year by 2025. Every tesla model Starts off slow and slowly ramps up.
There is like 80 sitting in the yard the other day. There is heaps of RUclips videos of customers getting theirs wrapped. So they are getting delivered.
The Cybertruck has a lot of cutting edge manufacturing technology thats never been done before. Its a marvel of engineering
"The Cybertruck has a lot of cutting edge manufacturing technology thats never been done before. Its a marvel of engineering"
That's on page 3 of the "welcome to the cult handbook" isn't it?
To those of you NOT in manufacturing: Scrapping 10-50 percent of anything, when first starting production is normal. Not desirable, but normal. So, don't allow this quoted statistic to influence you. EDIT: But, again, you're right on the money that each new owner is rolling the dice on getting a bad one. ...or two. ...or three
But isn't EJ already past "first starting production", trying to make 80-90K cells a day?? That's well past "startup"; that would have been maybe the first 5,000-10,000. EJ doesn't deserve a free pass to make junk at this point, especially given the statement that they didn't even have a way to test the cells they've made.
@@markh.6687 Well, yes and no. No, the battery production is NOT beyond or out of it's "first production stage". So, this is still normal to see these types of Scrap numbers. BUT, THIS is where the problem comes in, and the point of Rueters report quoted in the video. Because they are STILL in the first stage of sorting the batteries out, they should NOT be put in a production vehicle yet. EDIT: So, the problem isn't the high scrap numbers, it's the fact that they're putting a sketchy product in a production vehicle that's on the roads. And Side Note - It's entertaining when John calls Elon "Electric Jesus", but it just sounds 'cultish' when we say it...
@@NorthernChev It's not entertaining when John calls Elon "Electric Jesus". Bombastic labels are not any better than Elon's own bombast.
Pre-production or prototype parts on production vehicles that will be sold to customers are a clear sign of quality issues. It is clear there has been a deviation from the plan. A capable person will see the failures without knowing any details. This would concern me on any car part. Having this discussion about a huge battery sends my anxiety to the moon.
"Cybertrough" I almost pissed myself.
I'm wondering how many tens of thousands of gallons of pristeen H20 it will take to calm one of these when it sets itself on broil, not to mention a semi, which may be a 10 alarm festivity. "A billionaire that never really grew up surrounded by yes men" I want that shirt. 😂
It only takes seconds to over-promise. Under-delivering on the other hand can drag on forever when you are EJ.
re: "Under-delivering on the other hand can drag on forever when you are EJ." exactly, that means it's a FEATURE not a "bug". unbeknownst, what you've just stumbled on is the "mechanism" that those working in Law Enforcement and Fraud Investigation will tell you is a "hallmark" of all the best SCAMS and CONS run in History (aw crap). that's right, the act of "kicking the can down the road" and "stringing their victims along" till the 12TH OF NEVER (by definition) produces the best monetary outcomes for the Fraudster...
ref: Beth Holmes/Theranos, Trevor Milton/Nikola, Sam Bankman Fried/FTX Crypto, Charlie Javice/Frank, and let us not forget the grand daddy of them all Bernie Madoff/2008 Collapse of the US Housing Market. yeah, the whole point is NOT just to "steal money" but to also STEAL TIME (which as we know is also a form of "money").
The Cybertruck floats... So do turds.
Volkswagen Beetles also floated decades ago; that's how well they were made in Germany.
Does the Cyber Truck make the same TINKLING noise as a Stainless Urinal
Finally, i found someone who likes Elon Musk. I guess you don't sleep at night because of him and the Cybertruck, spacex, boring company, solar city, neuralink, X = Twitter. Yes, i guess you're right, imagine if you had his money, how many more things will you do with your unique intelligence. I'm sure with a couple of beers in your hand, you can make the world a safer place, a better place.
You left out Storage and DOJO.
@mikedar8484 DOJO is part of Tesla, but I left out xAI Grok. It was gest to much. I was afraid he would try some kind of harakiri on himself.
Looks like Johnnycab from Total Recall. Thry should have a Johnny Carson driver AI mannequin as an optional extra
Fanboys are going to get their knickers in a twist of this reality check
Especially when it comes to the cost of repairing those panels..
It's already afoot...
This God of Material Science is clearly showing his incompetency on his mismanagement of his chariot productions. His followers may just have to wait a little longer to truly experience range anxiety.
I love the railroad terminal urinal image, spot on!
I like much about Elon, but it's always good for one to hear scathingly hilarious comments on the other side.
Delorean, manufacturing on relative shoe string, had more sophisticated forming for stainless steel 50 years ago.
True, had a nicer finish and did not look wavy, like CT panels.
Thought: The battery buses in Sydney have a range of around 300km & cannot be used for more than 12 hours per day by virtue of the time to charge. This means they cannot replace diesel buses on the more intense rosters. However, at least they have the batteries on the roof. Whilst this is bad for handiling, at least if they catch fire, they are not underneath schoolchildren, families & the mobility impaired.
Have you seen a battery bus burn?
Like the gas powered buses they once had, where the gas tanks were on the roof making the buses sway so heavily that the mainframe needed to be reinforced to stop it from disintegrating.
Battery fires don't just go up..
Is this real? Heat ,not fire,rises.
@@georgejetson3648 The tell-tale visual sign of a lithium battery fire is the jets of hot material projected out. It doesn't look like a campfire, it looks like a flamethrower.
It truly is the comedic gift that keeps on giving - we have the prospect of Cybertrucks self-combusting, and it will be hilarious to watch the media try to spin their reports. Let's hope people don't get hurt.
It's not spontaneous combustion. It's unscheduled end of life deflagration.
I've always said, "if you can't do it dry, you've got to do it wet."
If you ain't first, you're last.
If you ain't a truck, you're a boat??
Cyber urinal is the best name I've heard to describe this disgrace of a truck 😂. Thank you sir
Edison motors in Canada has 2 electric driven trucks, one is getting independent 3rd party testing and has a generator under the hood to give a better distance for the truck. I think they are going to test it as a logging truck after the other tests are done. They have also sold their set up to a few companies that will be doing further tests on the trucks they build for them. I worry more about the explosive fires than they seem to, but I do wish them luck and hope their trucks do well so they can keep building more trucks. They have a different plan using existing older trucks and retooling the drive train.
Good to hear about. I think that trucks, the real kind, are excellent candidates for the retrofit approach as they are usually an amalgum of outsources components. I wonder if they have retrofit tech for small cars? Googling them now.
@@Ray-dv1md Edison does have a CAT under the hood just attached to a generator to charge the batteries. They are a small company, but I hope things go well for them and they grow. One application he is looking to run is logging because you can charge the batteries when you are leaving the mountain and use the battery to get up the mountain when empty.
@@dereksollows9783 They are just starting to enter the pickup range but really looking at semi tractors. They are on youtube as Edison motors.
@@jeremyashford2145 Well a solid tractor with a million miles on the engine could be rebuilt or retooled as electric if the use is worth it. They are just looking at a small segment of trucking that the generator and batteries will work in.
Using an explosion-prone truck to haul logs? Won't those fires burn down the forests from which the logs originate?
I've never seen a person work so hard to hate a product or a person. Sad.
Some recent Musk highlights
‘ i know more about manufacturing than anyone else alive ‘
Telling X advertisers to ‘ go away’
Using those other familiar words.
The gift that keeps giving
All the while he's puffing away on weed .
Right or wrong, his name's always in the media. If they stop covering him, he'd fade away.
small FYI - last week had a tech come out to fix a small gutter scuff on one of my alloy wheels. After paying him $165 for doing a fantastic job, I asked, "what's you next job?", "off to do two wheels on a Tesla..". Further enquiries discovered that he fixes 20+ Tesla wheels/week due to
1. the OEM tyre/wheel setup not allowing for the slightest error in judgement
2. Tesla wheels are made of a very lightweight, soft alloy. The slightest touch to a gutter or kerb causes more damage than the standard alloy
but, as he said, " depending on the damage, I charge those dumb bastards roughly.$300/wheel, and no one is complaining...".
A little side note when it comes to the Mars mission we use gold on our satellites to protect them are very old satellite like what's used on Qualcomm has a quarter inch of gold that protects it from solar flares what are we going to do on Mars when the background radiation is higher than any human can stand
I don't think he's thought that far ahead.
You are right. All this talk and mumbo jumbo about living on Mars is just that...talk. It'll never happen, and if they try it it will have fatal consequences and ultimately fail due to cost and catastrophes.
Fortunately water stops solar and cosmic radiation. All you need in a below ground building on Mars is a double roof with about a metre thickness of water or ice inside it. There are plenty of glaciers there at high to medium latitudes, you could just melt out a cave in a glacier and you'd have good protection. I know a planet where you don't need that kind of protection if we can just avoid making it uninhabitable. And no, I don't expect EVs to play a huge part in that. Battery production involves a lot of mining and some very toxic substances.
Battery name refers to Size of the individual cells, 46 × 80 mm (2680 1460 and so on )
My gas tank has not shrunk in 22 years, and gas is cheaper than bottled water right now at COSTCO.
Thanks John for debunking Elmo's BS, again... 👍👏😻
Musk has the best Engineers in the world including Aussie Engineers. Production will ramp up, and manufacturing engineering takes time. Tesla has done very well and give them credibility so far....lets see as EV haters want them to go down.
Yeah he's in for a surprise, despite having to refer to himself as an expert
Not really. Look at the flat lining deliveries. If Musk can't keep pumping up his car sales 50% YOY, then Telsa fairly tale goes down the drain aaaaaaaaaaaaaand all the past frauds catch up with Musk. Musk joins his compatriots in fed camp is the inevitable outcome. LOL
@toddlerandtwinsinatesla well, nothing is forever. Lol In Australia, we are experts making fun of people, 😆
John you will enjoy Sandy Munro giving his take on the extraordinary cyber truck, bulletproof, no problems, range 400 miles, straight panels, easy, batteries no problems, Elon is a genius, or not.
John > Sandy .. John the "autoexpert" vs 40y+ of actual industry engineer at global scale.
Sure Elon the great Musk - "genius" with absolutely no inventions to speak of! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Imagine hating on Elon thinking he gives a sh** about some old random RUclipsr 😂
I love how you're almost always wearing a Cleveland sports ball cap. Either the Guardians/Indians or Cavaliers. Any particular reason why?
I have nothing against Elon Musk. I think he deserves some kudos for trying. That being said, the man should be in jail for attempting to jack up the Tesla Stock price by promising products he has to know Tesla is unable to deliver.
King of hype
@@hobo1704 A lawyer might call it "defrauding investors via the continued announcement and promotion of non-existent products".
The sooner he goes to Mars the better. Could we crowdfund it?
@@stevemawer848 one way rocket
Put that kudos into real engineers and companies such as Toyota for continually improving technology that makes your life better. This distraction from real progress takes you away from real developments that are pretty amazing.
It is easy to get in front of people, promise the world, take other people's money to ask other people to recruit people, pay lawyers to silence employees, and then behind closed doors jump up and down demanding they make your promises become reality. You could do this. Why even give kudos?
Would you not test a new product that has the potential to cause or solve problems in a Testing Lab. Not that I know very much about manufacturing BUT?
Loved this! You popped up in my feed. Had me at "What could possibly go wrong..." Great delivery, timing, presentation, etc. Thank You and Best Regards and Best Wishes for 2024
Are you a Nazi luver?
Dude, the Ukraine is finished. Find the next woke wank dream 😂
I stand wirh Russia
😂😂😂 sounds like John is cheesed off
Serious question: Which is more valuable to society, someone like Elon who makes optimistic claims and always falls short, yet always moves the ball forward faster than almost anyone else, or RUclips pundits who continually criticize Elon while contributing nothing to progress of society?
Elon and its not even close
re: "someone like Elon who makes optimistic claims and always falls short, yet always moves the ball forward faster than almost anyone else..." wait back up for a damn minute, before we blindly accept your bullsh!t narrative and get into any "presumptive discussions" about one person "adding value to society", the FIRST question we have to ask is this, Q1: why is it that you are so convinced that he is even "moving a ball forward" in the first place (as opposed to telling a lie to DEFRAUD and take all your money like we've already seen happen with the convicted criminals Beth Holmes, Trevor Milton, Sam Bankman Fried, Charlie Javice, etc)...? yeah, and then the SECOND question we have to ask is, Q2: do you want the truth, or do you just want to "feel good"...?
now i ask this "series of questions" (which are serious) because it sounds like you kids just want to "feel good" and are therefore caught up with a psychology of CONFIRMATION BIAS and are "simultaneously suckered" by something known as the MYTH OF PROGRESS. ref: "The greatest DERANGEMENT of the mind is when one makes something SO because one wishes it to BE so..." - Louis Pasteur (1822-1895)...
right, so this actually leads to a third question then, Q3: what if i told you that Elon's exploits are NOT "progressing" society in any way, shape, form, or fashion...? that's right, as i've famously said right here in JC's comment section many times already, "the History of technological development is NOT a fairytale where certain things are achieved and people live happily ever after", no, what happens in the real world is "both PRO-GRESS and RE-GRESS occurs in the History of technological development" (aw crap)...
also reference: THE LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS, and also reference: the combined multi-Billion Dollar Insurance Claims (that's Billion with a "B") filed for the losses related to the Felicity Ace (now sitting beneath 8,000ft of water off the Azores), the losses related to the fire aboard the Fremantle Highway, and the losses related to the fiery collapse of the Luton Airport Carpark, London. #NOFREELUNCH
@@phillyphil1513 Probably mistake to reply to a low IQ person like yourself who starts out in attack mode and needs to have at least one word in all caps in every sentence, but I will try to make a serious reply. Elon has clearly moved the ball forward on EV technology. Whether EVs are the right solution is a different question, but Tesla clearly has led the way in EV technology. Elon has moved the ball forward in space flight. Anyone would have to be blind to not see that. Look at the number of SpaceX launches compared to anyone else: NASA, Europe, Russian, China, and the difference is stark. Elon has clearly moved the ball forward on space based internet communication. Compare StarLink to Viasat or Hughesnet or any other and the difference is night and day. You probably aren’t smart enough to see any of this, but the evidence is clear.
Exactly
Can someone explain what happened to corporate responsibility? In a country ('Merica') famed for it's litigeous zeal, one might reasonably have imagined that such risk taking would not only want to be absolutely avoided by the in-house bean counters, but be otherwise regulated out of the realm of possibility anyway.
John! You might be an ICE car expert, but nothing more than a hater when it comes to EVs... and certainly no expert at all!
Tesla has gone through hell at least twice in the ramping up of a product's manufacturing: the Model X and then the early Model 3 production. But they came out in both cases with flying colors! The Model Y ramp up went as smooth as butter!
Yes, Tesla is presently experiencing difficulties ramping up their 4680 cell production... that much is true. But their past record can only lead to the conclusion that will overcome that in the coming months, rather than the contrary. They have amply proven that they have the engineers, the money and the will to solve that issue! Manufacturing is hard, as Elon said hundreds of times!
Can you please explain why we need more expensive and environmentally unfriendly EVs at all when Anthropogenic climate change is another scam and bald faced lie?
@AndyGKaufman I can’t do that, as I agree with that statement!
A MOVABLE URINAL HOW GOOD IS THAT
Were the CyberTrough actually armored, I think that it would weigh significantly more than the present curb weight.
It's starting to look like the entire thing was lies from the ground up... Remember when he went to test the windows and smashed one lol total idiot.. Tesla is junk but all EV's are dangerous ticking time bombs IMO
We up armoured a few cruisers and hiluxes in Iraq, they became complete slugs.
You mean the kerb weight that hasn't been independently verified? Same as all the other stats about this monstrosity? It's a marketing gimmick, nothing more.
I like to believe that tesla backed down on the armored claim as it opens them up to litigation. I’m no expert but don’t you need a special permit to operate an armored vehicle in some jurisdictions?
Apparently at least some of the metal is significantly thinner than Musk claimed they would be. Likely to meet some safety standard.
Like how you slipped in a hottie via the Nord promo- love your work J.C!
I'm so glad I found this channel 😂 Here in southern Communistfornia theres EVs everywhere. I live on a long stretch of mountainous HWY 74 and ive often thought of putting my generator in one of my gas or diesel V8 trucks and offering charging service for a fee of course. Stranded EVs are all over C'mon people forget to charge their car just like forgetting to charge your phone
40K price is possible once production scales, 40k was for base model which is not currently for sale.
I don't expect to ever see the base model. Companies optimize for maximum profit. There is a old joke about cars and math.
Q: If you add a $20 radio to a $15,000 car, what do you get?
A: A $17,000 car
The Cyber Trough made me laugh. Good one, John
I'm in Vegas and during the summer those 8,000 pound "trucks" are going to destroy the tarmac roads. The extreme heat softens the tarmac and will not handle that kind of weight.
During last quarter analyst call, HE said the cybertruck was going to be a financial burden.
I trust HIM on this point 😁
Cexially refreshing channel of journalistic integrity. Aye dinnae be scart ta ge ma baws a wee smack aboot
Oh goody, a battery powered urinal that you can drive. Does it have an internal blackwater tank, or do I have I have to tow one behind?
Maybe EJ could team up with Hugh Janus- a diabolical partnershit indeed.
Common sense is Kryptonite to everyone in the cult of Elmo Musk.
You're not wrong that the Cybertruck was released before it should have been, and that the "Launch" was definitely a PR scam.
I'm a bit autistic, okay, whatever, but I don't understand any sort of anti-battery disposition. I use them to build electric mountain boards which go up to 40 miles, are dead silent, will climb any hill, etc. I love them. There is going to be growing pains in any new technology that comes along. Batteries enable us to take a significant portion of the power grid with us, and battery chemistry is constantly changing. We do have cell chemistries that can withstand as many as 30,000 cycles before they need replaced. These same chemistries (LTO) also do not fail catastrophically, even if you drive a spike through them, nor do they lose charge, and need to be kept warm, in cold weather. Thank goodness someone else is footing the bill to move things forward. I love the idea of EV's because i want to line my entire roof with solar panels, and maybe even my backyard, so I can power my vehicles, and toys, with the sun. We could potentially have an apocalypse, and the only cars on the road will be electric.. Just because it takes fossil fuels to convert into electric energy doesn't mean it always will. One must empower the other, and I work in the energy industry, and am dependent upon people using fossil fuels.
With regard to Tesla Cybertruck's, I wonder if the only reason they aren't using 21700's, which I would much prefer, is cost.
Every time the battery is charged/discharged, it incurs increased impedance at the graphite anode is largely contributing to the capacity fading of such lithium-ion cells.
Yes but for reasonable use, they last long enough with enough remaining capacity. The real issue is that they are too darned expensive.
Hey thanks for the info ☺️
@@aljoubert8749The total number of km is not going to be a good number to hang your hat on. If someone drives an EV like they stole it and fast charges to 100% every time, the number of km won't be all that high. If another person drives like a sane person and charges overnight at home, the km number will likely not ever be reached before the car is scrapped for some other reason.
Exactly how many charge/discharge cycles would you expect one of these batteries to achieve in its lifetime?
Lithium batteries? Destroy the environment to save the climate?
I'd love to see you and thunderfoot have a contest on calling out musks BS. 😂
I think both do a pretty good job. I recommend Common Sense Skeptic as well. Very few dare to call out his BS. The majority are just happy licking Musk's boots nonstop.
@@Sonny_McMacsson he wouldn't have been wrong to be skeptical. vaclav smil talking about the entire tech. sector - "hype, over hype, over hype."
@@Sonny_McMacsson You mean where he pointed out how and why his initial thought was incorrect?
"I gotta admit, when I first saw this I thought it wasnt possible!!
Pawing through the numbers it looks like this might be accessible." - ruclips.net/video/2xSDBNzAtPs/видео.html
@@blackberrythorns Oops, I killed my reply somehow. I'll restate it in short: He claimed a heli wouldn't fly on mars and really I think he talks out his arse at times. I put some napkin math as a reply in the video to show it wasn't even remotely outlandish but never saw any followup.
@@DerykRobosson I restated my original reply in another post after I did something dumb and erased it.
I saw the original video and said why in the video it wasn't a good idea to be skeptical along with some simple math as to why the idea was entirely plausible. This was years before the mission took place. If he backpedaled or issued a correction I would never have seen it anyway because I put him behind me at that point.
Even if there's a political ring to a science or engineering channel, it's gotta remain grounded. If they intentionally screw that up even once just to stir up feelings or controversy for views, I'm done with it. Actually, I gave him two chances anyway.
It seems he's doing just fine with you guys.
I want to see how the Cybertruck does in Chicago at 20 below what do you get 5 miles range ?
The Wiper will Freeze,the Door will freeze.
Cyberurinal is definitely an experiment and as such is highly risky as a purchase in the first few years of production.
2024 production I figure will be about 5000 and I expect severely reilability issues and high insurance costs.
Oh, I look forward to coming back to this comment every so often. Thanks!
Sever reliability issue - like Tesla Model X? Worst reliable car in US according to consumer reports! YES!!
High insurance costs? - like every insurance quote today for every Tesla car? YES!
Musk fanboys: Duh, what you are talking about??????
LOL
Looks good, if I owned one and didn't have a dollar, I wouldn't blink.
@@coldspring22 I drove a 2016 X over 80,000 miles when I worked at Tesla. One day the AC failed and the it charge slowly, all I had to do to it was add some r134A from Orielly's. ICE COLD🥶AC
Housing bricks (from hyper loop boring) : fail
Hyperloop: fail
Solar cities / solar cities : fail
Colonies on mars: fail
Starlink : not enough satellites and customers
EV battery : fail
Self driving : fail
Starship : fail ( keeps exploding)