For the record, Glass Reflection has since stopped using number scores since he agrees that they're contradictory and cause pointless controversy. But while I agree with you that using numerical scores as means to show how "objectively good" something is is silly, using them it as just a "how much I enjoyed it" factor isn't so complicated. When I look at someone's MAL, I like to know what they're into, and leaving everything blank doesn't give me much information on their tastes on specific shows.
Who does? Arkada? How does a communist dress exactly? Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jon Un, Castro, Gorbachev, Putin. All of them dress extremely differently. How is this even related to Simok1234's comment?
The main reason there are scores for rating anime is because of the vast complexity and variety of the types of stories you can get in anime. You can put in effort to make something meaningful, or you don't. Ratings show how well something parts of it were executed. These parts make up the complex puzzle we see as a viewer. How complex is it? How well does it fit together? All these things can affect enjoyment, no matter how simple you try to put it. Enjoyment should never be only a yes or no, unless you want go teach people not to question or try to understand anything. There is a huge amount of things that can affect our enjoyment in just one thing. Rating is a way to try to measure all of what we like and dont like. Anime is more meaningful and complex than a good or bad. That's why we rate. 2 anime with the same score can suck in one way where the other excels, and vice versa. In summary, we rate because theres more to anime than: did I enjoy this, or not?
I truly believe that the numerical score, which is introduced to us in school, is a really archaic and unfair way of rating someone's work. I've always been a really good student and got high marks most of the time but the more I grew up, the less I believed in the marking system and, eventually, I dropped out of college. With anime is the same. I stopped rating anime a few weeks ago because it just doesn't seem like a good way of evaluating it. There are so many things to consider that mere numbers can't even come close to represent the value of a piece of art. And of course, it will always be a very personal opinion. Some people will love X and some other people will hate X, and that doesn't mean that X is either good or bad; it's all about personal tastes. Anyway, great video Stefan. Let's hope we can get another video of yours soon enough. It's always a pleasure to watch them.
Absolutely agree with this. I've tried ratings in the past, but there were just so many things wrong with my ratings. On top of that, I caught myself thinking constantly about what rating I was gonna give a show, while I was watching the damn show. It's really annoying and it just never felt right.
Well said. The way I rate things is by recommendation. Is it good and worth watching and what are the general flaws, all summed up in two phrases or less. Give a vagueness of your enjoyment, and then say if it's worth watching and you're golden. Anyone who gives objective numbers simply compares art between each other and that's overall worthless.
I really enjoy when stef talks about all this sciencey metaphorical shit. For someone who knows nothing about most of it it's nice hearing some random ass dude who has some of the same interests explain it all. Plus I love his cat.
It's not valuing objectivity, it's subjectivity. Seeing one's subjective scores gives an idea of what they personally like to be better acquainted in guessing what you'd also like
I used to have real complex 'methodologies' for rating music, tv shows, etc., but then I just dropped all that and started rating things based purely on enjoyment, since enjoyment encompasses all of a work's factors and should really be the only thing you consider at the end of the day.
Doofy MetalusMaximus Well firstly I have a bit of an obsession with analysing and cataloguing works based on my enjoyment. I like being able to make a list of things from certain mediums and rank them from top to bottom. It's a weird pleasure having a lot of great works and then sort of making them battle each other (based on my own analyses) to figure out which most deserves my praise. Secondly, assigning a specific number to a work is like concluding an essay, as it succinctly states my overall thoughts. I will say "this had great action, but it was pretty mindless. that's a 6/10", and then when I find something more enjoyable I might compare it to the previous work and therefore determine: "this had great action AND it explored some themes that I found interesting, so this is an 8/10". Analysing these works and thereby quantifying them then allows me to better understand what I specifically like or dislike about certain works, and because of this I develop both my understanding and appreciation (or lack there of) for various works. Then, by having a massive list of enjoyment-based ratings, I have the necessary (or, at least, acceptable) context required to figure out what works I should check out next and what I should avoid. The ultimate goal would be to compare so many works that I could one day find the one true 100/100 best piece of work ever, but obviously that would be an impossible task, so I'm happy with at least being able to whittle down a top list of things pertaining to certain mediums that I enjoy most. **TL;DR** I consider the ratings to be the final part of analysing a work, which is what I love doing. If you even call a work "good" or "bad" you're still technically rating it, so it's not too hard imo to then express those positive and negative descriptions on a numerical scale.
Wow... Finally someone came out and said it. *Ratings are overrated* When I suggest an anime to someone, I tell them (a)What kind of experience they'll get (or don't it's that's the nature of the show) and (b)How much I recommend it. That's it.
That is stupid. It is people who judge someone's opinion of a show based solely on the score they gave the show is lazy and fucking dumb. Score rating is just a way to categorize what you enjoyed in a scale. Dismissing its usefulness is silly. It is to summarize your thoughts on it. It is YOUR score. How you score is on you, and the score does NOT matter to others to be frank. Everyone rates differently.
Scores give no insight though. Scores are pretty useless. What does a 7 really signify to a person? And what does a 7 for prison School signify to a 7 for a show like Toradora or Death Note? Are they same 7 or are they different? Again you are using a objective value to summarize your experience, even though no experience is the exact same, no yields similar outcomes.
Dominique Hudson the score simply tells to what level you think a show is good and worth watching in comparison to another. For examp,e if someone gives some animes characters a 5 and the other's a 7 he is clearly expressing he thinks one show's characters are better than the others. Of course I think you should expand on why you thought this, for a person who doesn't have time to read all that , a number from a critic who he holds in high regard is usually more than enough for him to make the decision.
You and Gigguk are thus far the only two people who I've seen who actually seem to get what should be blatantly obvious. Therefore, you have my utmost respect. I definitely appreciate the nuance of your stance at the end. It is precisely hard to rate anime on community sites because no one can come to a consensus on what those numbers mean. For me, I do rate my anime but I assign my own personal meaning to those numbers that transcend genres and use those numbers only for my own reference. So if people were to look at my list, they can see what I mean by those numbers. For some reason, people lust for ratings and one of the reasons I can think of to explain this is that people are afraid of uncertainty and like structure in their lives. They like to be told what is right and what is wrong. It is easy to have someone tell you what to think and it feels good when your opinions are validated and legitimized when they align with someone else’s. Another reason is that people are lazy. And numbers provide a quick and easy way to discern a show's "quality".
I think most people would agree that you can't objectively assign numerical ratings to something as subjective as forms of entertainment. That doesn't mean you shouldn't make an attempt to differentiate, as best as possible, what is good and what is bad in Movies, Music, TV etc. I actually really like YourMovieSucks' approach to rating movies. He starts everything off with a 5 and based on his own criteria of what makes a movie good, adds or removes points with 1 being the lowest possible score and 10 being the highest. He does his best to point out his own biases. He's admitted to absolutely enjoying the hell out of something he gave a low score to and once or twice gave a high-ish score to something he didn't really enjoy. The point of rating systems isn't scientific and I don't know anyone who pretends that it is. However, you can still approach it with a self-awareness of your own biases to reach a broad understanding of good and bad Anime.
Dominique Hudson by that logic no one can judge what is good and bad. A qualified and reputable person is probably in a better position to pass judgment than the average joe because the majority of people understand and support his judgment.
People's view of art is subjective. Determining a shows quality and scoring it CAN be viewed as pointless, as someone will have a differing opinion. On the other hand, it does give a *very vague* insight on a show that you might be interested in. However, taking those scores with a grain of salt is also a factor. Wonderful video by the way. Quite insightful!
I don't approach my ratings to shows in any kind of "mathematical" or formulaic manner. I instead rate almost entirely on how I enjoy and appreciate the show for what it is and does and then put it where it just feels right. My ratings are entirely for myself, and not for anyone else. I have to many 10s? boo hoo. I should use the whole scale? Cry more. Other peoples standards and opinions are not my own so I don't really care about them, at least in this regard.
I say numbering can be a good way to express how much merit YOU think a show has. Even if objectivity doesn't exist that doesn't mean you can't express what qualities you think a show has in a number form. Numbers merely are a way of saying to what degree you think a show is good. Like if you like a show but think it has a flaw you can say use a number when talking to a person who perhaps usually agrees with your taste and can get a decent idea of your stance is in the minimal amount of words. It's also simple and effective in communicating how you would rank it in quality compared to other works if you are making a comparison instead "yeah it was kinda sorta better or worse"
i actually happen to have the exact same stance on rating things as complicated and opinionistic as a show down to a single number, i find it very hard to rate anything out of 10 even a charecters hotness, because there are so many things to take into account and they all come down to my preferences which are also dynamic. if i were to have to rate an anime out of 10 id do it based on a seires catagorys that correspond to specific elements into, comedy, animation quality, moe ness, things like that, that way it would be more of a reperesentation of how closly it could fit peoples tastes than how globally "good" it is.
Seriously, this channel is one of the greater things i've encountered. Could you argue that despite a necessary control to rate something from, there would be a logic to rating 10 on shows e.g. NHK that are truly valuable? I get the relativity so that its value is subjective but GAH you know? I wish there were some means I could find truly moving experiences / art like that other than chance. Alas, ultimately I agree, the rating system fails us. At least for the most part.
Damn you talked about a lot of the same stuff I did in my shitty vaporwave video but in way better detail and much more explanatory thought, good work and keep it up my dude. Also Digibro talks about the same type of stuff in a couple of videos but he uses number scores. I guess he applies those numbers in relative to his opinion and his enjoyment as opposed to a mathematical evaluation of a show. At least that would make sense seeing what he's said on the subject. In the end though you did a better job than myself and a more coherent and oddly enough, scientific version of what Digibro did, so you probably blew us both out of the water. I love the video man, it will forever be in my heart. 9.827/10
I'm somewhere between the two extremes. I find setting up strict criteria, percentages etc. is too limiting and doesn't account for context. But I still know roughly what I personally look for, enjoy and appreciate. So I score case-by-case based on how good I (again personally) think it is in a few general areas, and just use them as a guideline instead of worrying about meticulous accuracy or calculations. More detailed opinions and perspectives require writing to express; I don't think they can be summed up with a number.
Scores don't need to be super calculated though. I personally just use scores to put things in boxes, help me remember how much and why I liked something better than something else at some point (if that makes sense). It's super easy, and only a single number, no reason to believe it gives some kind of comprehensive information in the first place.
nice video. you can't really put a number on something that is filled with so many emotions. (also nice ending song thanks for putting the name in the description)
It's good to know there's a few of us out there that understand the pointless-ness for mathematical rating systems for artistic mediums. While you're free to do so, using mathematics to judge opinions and art, whether good or bad, is a really sad idea that only feeds people's desires to want others to think the way you do. People crave seeing things being rated and love it when it lines up with what they believe or want to believe and hate it when it's not, when in the end, who actually cares? You can rate Evangelion 9.99/10 but you'll still get loads of people who think "meh" so what good is the scoring system aside from self gratification? If I ever chose a rating system, I actually really love the way Demolition+ does it with the "Should you watch? Yes/No" system. It's so pure and simple you can't really call it out on technicalities or final results, and even the title is "*SHOULD* you watch?" not "You NEED to watch/Don't ever Watch". It stays very close to unbiased and any bias you see feels more obvious and.... forgivable? It just seems people lose sight far too easily on why we enjoy things because in the end it all boils down to you either like it or don't.
Joshua W no one is through a rating saying you can't or must watch something. They are expressing simply how good they think the show is on a wider spectrum than passable or not,
This is why my system is or . And then series that are personal favorites, I say . And series that I wouldn't recommend? Well I probably stopped watching them, or if I watched to the end but don't think others should watch them: I just don't talk about them. At the end of the day if someone want's my opinion it's ether to just get the next show to watch - or they want me to actually talk out my thoughts. Either way, numbers are not needed.
A rating, for me, is a personal expression of relative enjoyment. If a show has a higher rating then another show, then I enjoyed watching it more then that show. Of course, this means I could just rate everything a 1, and the invariant would hold true, but I try to spread them out a bit, because having some (approximate) attempt at a metric provides utility: I can find shows I really liked more quickly, and I can show people what kind of things I liked, so they can help me find similar shows. Talking about absolute ratings misses the point. A rating is a tool that you can use however you please, and just because some people idiotically try to find some absolute rating of art does not mean you cannot make use of numbers. What people ask for hen they want to see ratings is just a quick overview or index of your preferences. If you want to rate things "I like it I like it, I don't I don't" then just rate everything a 10 or a 1, and call it a day. Easy solution.
Also, sometimes the "art" that you see as "modern art" is sometimes not like "it represents X". Many are actually a mastery in a certain aspect of creation. There is a fantastic video on "I could have done that" argument about Art : /watch?v=67EKAIY43kg
I feel like objectivity is more about rating how likely someone is to like something rather than it being universally liked. Especially since mass appeal is not the same thing as objectivity. Being objective is actually pointless unless you specifically mention WHO is likely to enjoy a show along with the score that is rated from the perspective of someone who might like it. It's likely that objectivity can only exist within genres and that it should be rated by comparison to other shows in that genre and how one might be perceived universally as more enjoyable and enriching to those who have their subjective tastes match up. TL;DR objectivity is hard, and doesn't mean an objectively good show will be liked by everyone, but it does exist. It just takes a lot of work to do correctly.
I only rate things to remind myself of the quality of something if the situation needs it, plus I like to organize shit like that because Asperger's. *EDIT* Also the scores are more grades, similar to A, B and C, than anything else
1:34 Ahhh the hamlet quote that is more reflective of subjectivism and perception rather than a defense of relativism and it's implication of the objective quality of art. Taking stuff out of context is bad. I like to give numerical scores, but I had to set a standard for measuring and use it for every show, based on plot, audio, usage of visuals and how much the show tells about the character and the story. It certainly doesn't tell everything about a show, but is fun to do. A huge flaw of this is that you're using a quantitative measure to define something that must be measured qualitatively (hence the usage of good, bad, etc), and as such it will always be problematic. One of the main reasons is that there's no reason for everybody to agree about a standard transposition between qualitative and quantitative measurement. Finally, to compare shows you focus on the execution of the idea rather that on the ideas. Say, one show about saving the world and another that tries to talk about existencialism. How natural the characters felt? Did the plot made sense in their respective contexts? Is there a conclusion? That kind of questions in stories. In plastic arts and music the beast is entirely different. That's why I feel okay with rating stories, but will never dare to judge those numerically.
I think you missed his point, as he was actually referring to the subjectivity and perception of the individual. I don't think he was ever really referring to relativism.
Don't skip the "implication on objective quality" stuff, which is the main critique I have about the usage of that quote. Also, relativism heavily uses the "everything is subjective" argument, which is basically what he's using right here.
Fou-Lu, The Dragon Emperor no actually he was referring to the concept of objective quality within art, which does not exist. Also he is not saying "everything is subjective" and no relativism argues that values, norms and social morals are socially contrusted and varies across regions and cultures. The concept you are thinking of is actually subjectivism. I tend to see the anime community, especially this within snob's camp make the mistake of using relativism incorrectly when they mean subjectivity. also he never argued that everything is subjective, but that all art forms are subjective to he interpretation of the inidivual viewing the art.
>concept of objective quality within art, which does not exist Which is a hard to conceive idea given that art pieces are born with a purpose, therefore it's existence as object has a quality, determined by criteria such as how clear it transmit its purpose, etc >relativism argues that values, norms and social morals are socially contrusted and varies across regions and cultures. "Relativism is the concept that points of view have no absolute truth or validity within themselves, but rather only relative, subjective value according to differences in perception and consideration" Wikipedia, feel free to bring another source In simpler terms, "everything is relative nothing is right or wrong", which is far from true unless we're talking about opinions, which are inherently based on uncertainty and aren't the only way to describe art there is. Sure, moral relativism is a ramification of that ideology, but is not enclosed to it. >make the mistake of using relativism incorrectly when they mean subjectivity. That's because they use it as a counter to the argument "everything is relative" and so on and so forth. I've already shown the usage of relative is valid, but nevertheless you should've thought where does the usage of that word comes from. >he never argued that everything is subjective, but that all art forms are subjective to he interpretation of the inidivual viewing the art. Which doesn't negates the objectivity in art. Both aren't excluding one another. To get there you use rationality, debate and argumentation in order to distill the object which every individual experiences regardless of their perception of it.
Yes, art is purposeful; however, not objective. You cannot have an objective criterion for something that varies from person to person. You can be objectivity good at math or computers, because they do vary between space and time; however, something like literature and art varies from individual to individual. Criterion becomes useless at this point. Sure you can take off points for structures, tone and grammatical errors, but criterion of how the narrative communicates its purpose is never clear and is easily interpret many different ways. This is why English, art and other humanity based degree do not function well in our objective customer driven society. Relativism: “the doctrine that knowledge, truth, and morality exist in relation to culture, society, or historical context, and are not absolute. “There are many different versions of “relativism”; however, it is mostly used to denote differences between cultures. Subjectivism: “the doctrine that knowledge is merely subjective and that there is no external or objective truth.” The counter argument of "everything is relative" is just a horrible flawed argument to give imo. However, I would say from a linguistic approach that “relativism” is not the word you are looking for, but I digress. Relativism tends to involve cultures or groups, while subjectivity involves the individual. Except it actually does negate the objectivity in art. Objectivity by in large is the state or quality of being true even outside of a subject's individual biases, interpretations, feelings, and imaginings. Since everyone possess their own biases, interpretations, feelings, etc when experiencing art, the possibility of objectivity ceases to exist by default. Let me give you an example. One can feel or interpret the equation 2 + 2 = 5, but that is not objectivity true. The equation 2 + 2 = 4 is still true even outside of a subject's individual biases, interpretations, feelings, and imaginings. The world stays round no matter how much you interpret the world as black-and-white flat plain. You cannot do that with art or literature. Yes, something can be grammatically wrong (as grammar is similar to a math equation) and other objectively sounded parts; however, the actual interpretation of the content within the narrative varies across space and time; from person to person. Using rationality, debate and argumentation does not distill objectivity, it simply bolsters your perceptions over another’s. That’s not objectivity.
I don't really see the point in being a "no rating purest" besides your viewers wont get mad at you for giving shows bad ratings. for example lets take the no rating purest position to its extreme. I guess this means that Anno is not any better of a director than the guy who is directing bloodvores this season. But no one agrees with that so obviously there our some universally agreed upon stuff that people share to differentiate good anime from better anime. So to me a no rating purest is just not living in the real world.
Ratings never was a way to say how good something was but a way to measure the average of how many other people liked it, which is bad because they have terrible taste
Imagine the "rating" as the extent to which you recommend others to look at given anime. I take the ratings with a grain of salt. They are only one aspect of my decision to watch the anime, but they are important. If nobody would rate, the process of deciding would be more difficult and I would waste a lot of time by watching all-of-the-first-episodes to find out whether it's worth my time...
DAT JAVA BOOK DOE! Thats the same book i use in college, and yes slamming your programming book into your laptop is a totally normal thing if you're a computer science major.
I think you might be taking the concept of "rating" too seriously. Assigning a number to a series based on "goodness" is essentially just a straightforward way of communicating how much you liked it. I do agree that some people take it too far by having ten billion categories by which they score a series and then averaging them up to form a final score, though. Personally, I would go insane doing that.
Did you ever watch the entire series of Outlaw Star? You seem to like psychological/think outside the box craziness. Outlaw Star had that kind of ending. What do you think of Outlaw Star if you have seen it?
So why don't you try to rate without math? For example: Comedy which are in your opinion not funny get a 3/10, shows with interesting ideas get at least a 7/10, everything you consider your favourites are a 9/10.
nop, of its funny it's because something, not magic, if the joke is well made, the timing, the setting, the script, who says it, etc. it can be a 10 in it's way, if no one have created a 10/10 comedy yet doesn't mean that there cannot be made
The way I use the MAL format of scoring; Assign a universal meaning to each integer (good, bad, rad, stromboli, etc) See how many of your opinions of the reviewed show align with each meaning Assign the show the integer the meaning is equivalent to. Repeat. This is the pseudocode of my mind. Pervert.
Stoop doop steef, reviews in my understanding fall under three applications. The first is for the uninitiated to have a starting point with their first delve into the reviewer's subject. For example, wine is, like art, subjective. Trying to compare different reds is like comparing the sunrise in egypt to the sunrise in Belarus. And yet, The Wine Advocate still exists, rating wines from 0 to 100 and is considered an important metric for wineries everywhere. Why does this man do this? Why do people listen to him? It is to provide an illusion of discernibility, by assigning an easily understood measuring stick to an impossible to measure metric, and scattering the wines to the winds. Now a new client of wineries has a place to start. A place where they can feel grounded, and begin to form their own opinions about wine off this scaffold of measurement. The objectivity is just a mirage that falls away at the slightest breeze, and everybody smart knows this, and everybody is happy with the service the reviewer is supplying, because it makes it easy for the novice to become an avid consumer. The second is a more personal metric, where in someone limited in the resources needed to enjoy the medium (be it time or money) can find a reviewer with tastes similar to their own. Thus if the reviewer likes the subject, the viewer feels they are more likely to enjoy that subject too, and is more comfortable with committing resources to it's consumption. Preferably the reviewer is an exact copy of themselves. Thus the rating system for this purpose does not need to be an objective measure of something's quality, it is intentionally subjective, however the reviewer and the viewer theoretically share the same subjectivity/taste. This is where I think you could fall into. The third application is reviews for entertainment. The subject of the review is secondary to the reviewer having a muse with which to flex their "personality and wit". See this video for explanation: ruclips.net/video/WPAITAuuk-8/видео.html
hmi hope that java books isn't one i had to know i just rate stuff based on how i enjoyed it, just saying that you found something to be good, is also a rating just in words, which well dons't translates well into a number.. but well good video
I got so sick of scores that I made css style and used it with browser addon Stylish to hide scores from anime pages on MAL. Here's example of what anime pages look for me now: i.imgur.com/mPYzH5Z.png Oh and I've also hidden reviews because they are distracting, and they have scores...
I do appreciate shit: ok: good though, but it's only if I have a previous bias to something I'm yet to watch. Disingenuous but I think it's what the adverse viewer is looking for
Oki so if you like something or don't like something either give it a 1 (Did not like it) or a 10 ( I liked it)....no inbetween. You say you like what you like, but you can let people know if you liked it or not. What is so wrong with letting someone know that you personally liked something. Like you said, you either did, or you didn't. Don't stay silent, express your feelings. By keeping all of the ratings blank, nobody has any idea if you actually enjoyed any of the shows you watched. Nobody knows if you would support any of them. Nobody knows what your favorite genre of anime is or what kind of style you like. It kind of feels like a cop out if you don't give your opinion because then you yourself cannot be judged. I kind of understand what you are saying, but I don't nessassarily agree with you. Express yourself just as the artist expressed themselves. You have every right to rate their work (especially if you are one of those people that actually buys anime). I mean, you also have the right to decide not to rate anime as well, but the explanation you gave as to why you don't just seems inhuman. edit: By the way, I love your videos. Keep it up.
you don't have to make a 6 minute video just to say that art is subjective, a lot of people i know score just to give themselves a rough example of how much they personally enjoyed a series and they are rating their own level of enjoyment rather than some arbitrary objective standard of 'good'. However the more people that are saying this the better because people need to get it into their heads that objectivity doesn't exist in art and it's really at topic for debate about whether it exists for anything else in the first place
The Dead Sea Scrolls says that one day, Stef will learn to make coffee in a non-violent way.
For the record, Glass Reflection has since stopped using number scores since he agrees that they're contradictory and cause pointless controversy.
But while I agree with you that using numerical scores as means to show how "objectively good" something is is silly, using them it as just a "how much I enjoyed it" factor isn't so complicated. When I look at someone's MAL, I like to know what they're into, and leaving everything blank doesn't give me much information on their tastes on specific shows.
1. He bashed ur favourite show
2. Find his fav. in his MAL list.
3.Bash it
4.?????.
5.Satisfaction
this so much, i use scores to know which anime i really enjoyed. There is no way to give a correct score imao
Who does? Arkada? How does a communist dress exactly? Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jon Un, Castro, Gorbachev, Putin. All of them dress extremely differently. How is this even related to Simok1234's comment?
that shade at 3:03
I almost spit out my water at that arkada impression
i had to go back and watch it again because i wasn't expecting it
welcome back my dude, nearly felt like you left us just like demo did.
Sara M Demo says he has a Halloween episode set for release. Didn't say for what year though.
Don't get my hopes up :(
Demo is still on the boat
Actually, CG boat killed him...
Who is Demo?
The main reason there are scores for rating anime is because of the vast complexity and variety of the types of stories you can get in anime. You can put in effort to make something meaningful, or you don't. Ratings show how well something parts of it were executed. These parts make up the complex puzzle we see as a viewer. How complex is it? How well does it fit together? All these things can affect enjoyment, no matter how simple you try to put it. Enjoyment should never be only a yes or no, unless you want go teach people not to question or try to understand anything. There is a huge amount of things that can affect our enjoyment in just one thing. Rating is a way to try to measure all of what we like and dont like. Anime is more meaningful and complex than a good or bad. That's why we rate. 2 anime with the same score can suck in one way where the other excels, and vice versa.
In summary, we rate because theres more to anime than: did I enjoy this, or not?
I truly believe that the numerical score, which is introduced to us in school, is a really archaic and unfair way of rating someone's work. I've always been a really good student and got high marks most of the time but the more I grew up, the less I believed in the marking system and, eventually, I dropped out of college.
With anime is the same. I stopped rating anime a few weeks ago because it just doesn't seem like a good way of evaluating it. There are so many things to consider that mere numbers can't even come close to represent the value of a piece of art. And of course, it will always be a very personal opinion. Some people will love X and some other people will hate X, and that doesn't mean that X is either good or bad; it's all about personal tastes.
Anyway, great video Stefan. Let's hope we can get another video of yours soon enough. It's always a pleasure to watch them.
Absolutely agree with this. I've tried ratings in the past, but there were just so many things wrong with my ratings. On top of that, I caught myself thinking constantly about what rating I was gonna give a show, while I was watching the damn show. It's really annoying and it just never felt right.
Well said.
The way I rate things is by recommendation. Is it good and worth watching and what are the general flaws, all summed up in two phrases or less. Give a vagueness of your enjoyment, and then say if it's worth watching and you're golden.
Anyone who gives objective numbers simply compares art between each other and that's overall worthless.
Matthewmatosis, someone who can be arguably considered as the best video game reviewer, doesn't use numerical scores either.
0T5C yatzhee?
0T5C look for zero punctuation on youtube
+0T5C
Heh
Most reviewers rate stuff on myanimelist but don't show it in their videos
Leonardo Fernandes
They still suck.
From the start till 0:09 i thought i was watching HowToBasic.
I really enjoy when stef talks about all this sciencey metaphorical shit. For someone who knows nothing about most of it it's nice hearing some random ass dude who has some of the same interests explain it all. Plus I love his cat.
It's not valuing objectivity, it's subjectivity. Seeing one's subjective scores gives an idea of what they personally like to be better acquainted in guessing what you'd also like
I used to have real complex 'methodologies' for rating music, tv shows, etc., but then I just dropped all that and started rating things based purely on enjoyment, since enjoyment encompasses all of a work's factors and should really be the only thing you consider at the end of the day.
Yagami Raito then whats the point of rating it?
I think the scores would show how enjoyable the shows are compared to each other.
Doofy MetalusMaximus Well firstly I have a bit of an obsession with analysing and cataloguing works based on my enjoyment. I like being able to make a list of things from certain mediums and rank them from top to bottom. It's a weird pleasure having a lot of great works and then sort of making them battle each other (based on my own analyses) to figure out which most deserves my praise.
Secondly, assigning a specific number to a work is like concluding an essay, as it succinctly states my overall thoughts. I will say "this had great action, but it was pretty mindless. that's a 6/10", and then when I find something more enjoyable I might compare it to the previous work and therefore determine: "this had great action AND it explored some themes that I found interesting, so this is an 8/10". Analysing these works and thereby quantifying them then allows me to better understand what I specifically like or dislike about certain works, and because of this I develop both my understanding and appreciation (or lack there of) for various works.
Then, by having a massive list of enjoyment-based ratings, I have the necessary (or, at least, acceptable) context required to figure out what works I should check out next and what I should avoid. The ultimate goal would be to compare so many works that I could one day find the one true 100/100 best piece of work ever, but obviously that would be an impossible task, so I'm happy with at least being able to whittle down a top list of things pertaining to certain mediums that I enjoy most.
**TL;DR**
I consider the ratings to be the final part of analysing a work, which is what I love doing. If you even call a work "good" or "bad" you're still technically rating it, so it's not too hard imo to then express those positive and negative descriptions on a numerical scale.
Wow... Finally someone came out and said it.
*Ratings are overrated*
When I suggest an anime to someone, I tell them (a)What kind of experience they'll get (or don't it's that's the nature of the show) and (b)How much I recommend it. That's it.
Stop being lazy by using numbers, people! Use your words!
That is stupid. It is people who judge someone's opinion of a show based solely on the score they gave the show is lazy and fucking dumb. Score rating is just a way to categorize what you enjoyed in a scale. Dismissing its usefulness is silly. It is to summarize your thoughts on it. It is YOUR score. How you score is on you, and the score does NOT matter to others to be frank. Everyone rates differently.
Scores give no insight though. Scores are pretty useless. What does a 7 really signify to a person? And what does a 7 for prison School signify to a 7 for a show like Toradora or Death Note? Are they same 7 or are they different? Again you are using a objective value to summarize your experience, even though no experience is the exact same, no yields similar outcomes.
Dominique Hudson the score simply tells to what level you think a show is good and worth watching in comparison to another. For examp,e if someone gives some animes characters a 5 and the other's a 7 he is clearly expressing he thinks one show's characters are better than the others. Of course I think you should expand on why you thought this, for a person who doesn't have time to read all that , a number from a critic who he holds in high regard is usually more than enough for him to make the decision.
You and Gigguk are thus far the only two people who I've seen who actually seem to get what should be blatantly obvious. Therefore, you have my utmost respect. I definitely appreciate the nuance of your stance at the end. It is precisely hard to rate anime on community sites because no one can come to a consensus on what those numbers mean. For me, I do rate my anime but I assign my own personal meaning to those numbers that transcend genres and use those numbers only for my own reference. So if people were to look at my list, they can see what I mean by those numbers.
For some reason, people lust for ratings and one of the reasons I can think of to explain this is that people are afraid of uncertainty and like structure in their lives. They like to be told what is right and what is wrong. It is easy to have someone tell you what to think and it feels good when your opinions are validated and legitimized when they align with someone else’s. Another reason is that people are lazy. And numbers provide a quick and easy way to discern a show's "quality".
I think most people would agree that you can't objectively assign numerical ratings to something as subjective as forms of entertainment. That doesn't mean you shouldn't make an attempt to differentiate, as best as possible, what is good and what is bad in Movies, Music, TV etc.
I actually really like YourMovieSucks' approach to rating movies. He starts everything off with a 5 and based on his own criteria of what makes a movie good, adds or removes points with 1 being the lowest possible score and 10 being the highest. He does his best to point out his own biases. He's admitted to absolutely enjoying the hell out of something he gave a low score to and once or twice gave a high-ish score to something he didn't really enjoy.
The point of rating systems isn't scientific and I don't know anyone who pretends that it is. However, you can still approach it with a self-awareness of your own biases to reach a broad understanding of good and bad Anime.
But what is good and bad is still subjective and specific to the individual.
Dominique Hudson by that logic no one can judge what is good and bad. A qualified and reputable person is probably in a better position to pass judgment than the average joe because the majority of people understand and support his judgment.
People's view of art is subjective. Determining a shows quality and scoring it CAN be viewed as pointless, as someone will have a differing opinion. On the other hand, it does give a *very vague* insight on a show that you might be interested in. However, taking those scores with a grain of salt is also a factor.
Wonderful video by the way. Quite insightful!
I don't approach my ratings to shows in any kind of "mathematical" or formulaic manner. I instead rate almost entirely on how I enjoy and appreciate the show for what it is and does and then put it where it just feels right. My ratings are entirely for myself, and not for anyone else. I have to many 10s? boo hoo. I should use the whole scale? Cry more. Other peoples standards and opinions are not my own so I don't really care about them, at least in this regard.
1:34
Nice Hamlet quote, ya nerd.
Just kidding, this was a great video! :D
I say numbering can be a good way to express how much merit YOU think a show has. Even if objectivity doesn't exist that doesn't mean you can't express what qualities you think a show has in a number form. Numbers merely are a way of saying to what degree you think a show is good. Like if you like a show but think it has a flaw you can say use a number when talking to a person who perhaps usually agrees with your taste and can get a decent idea of your stance is in the minimal amount of words. It's also simple and effective in communicating how you would rank it in quality compared to other works if you are making a comparison instead "yeah it was kinda sorta better or worse"
Thanks for this video.P.s. RIP laptop
I love your choice in music. You keep introducing me to all sorts of neat future funk mixes.
i actually happen to have the exact same stance on rating things as complicated and opinionistic as a show down to a single number, i find it very hard to rate anything out of 10 even a charecters hotness, because there are so many things to take into account and they all come down to my preferences which are also dynamic.
if i were to have to rate an anime out of 10 id do it based on a seires catagorys that correspond to specific elements into, comedy, animation quality, moe ness, things like that, that way it would be more of a reperesentation of how closly it could fit peoples tastes than how globally "good" it is.
Finally! I found someone who doesn't rate shows. Plus we have same reasoning behind it! I love your channel even more than before.
I didn't like scores too but digi convinced me with his video "no one uses scores right"
I love your channel. Can't wait until it blows up and I can count myself among the earlier subscribers!
Seriously, this channel is one of the greater things i've encountered.
Could you argue that despite a necessary control to rate something from, there would be a logic to rating 10 on shows e.g. NHK that are truly valuable?
I get the relativity so that its value is subjective but GAH you know? I wish there were some means I could find truly moving experiences / art like that other than chance.
Alas, ultimately I agree, the rating system fails us. At least for the most part.
awesome programing skills at the end there)
Damn you talked about a lot of the same stuff I did in my shitty vaporwave video but in way better detail and much more explanatory thought, good work and keep it up my dude. Also Digibro talks about the same type of stuff in a couple of videos but he uses number scores. I guess he applies those numbers in relative to his opinion and his enjoyment as opposed to a mathematical evaluation of a show. At least that would make sense seeing what he's said on the subject. In the end though you did a better job than myself and a more coherent and oddly enough, scientific version of what Digibro did, so you probably blew us both out of the water. I love the video man, it will forever be in my heart. 9.827/10
I was starting to miss your posts. glad to see you back
I'm somewhere between the two extremes. I find setting up strict criteria, percentages etc. is too limiting and doesn't account for context. But I still know roughly what I personally look for, enjoy and appreciate. So I score case-by-case based on how good I (again personally) think it is in a few general areas, and just use them as a guideline instead of worrying about meticulous accuracy or calculations. More detailed opinions and perspectives require writing to express; I don't think they can be summed up with a number.
Ritsu: best girl
you got that right!
Scores don't need to be super calculated though. I personally just use scores to put things in boxes, help me remember how much and why I liked something better than something else at some point (if that makes sense).
It's super easy, and only a single number, no reason to believe it gives some kind of comprehensive information in the first place.
nice video. you can't really put a number on something that is filled with so many emotions. (also nice ending song thanks for putting the name in the description)
It's good to know there's a few of us out there that understand the pointless-ness for mathematical rating systems for artistic mediums. While you're free to do so, using mathematics to judge opinions and art, whether good or bad, is a really sad idea that only feeds people's desires to want others to think the way you do. People crave seeing things being rated and love it when it lines up with what they believe or want to believe and hate it when it's not, when in the end, who actually cares? You can rate Evangelion 9.99/10 but you'll still get loads of people who think "meh" so what good is the scoring system aside from self gratification?
If I ever chose a rating system, I actually really love the way Demolition+ does it with the "Should you watch? Yes/No" system. It's so pure and simple you can't really call it out on technicalities or final results, and even the title is "*SHOULD* you watch?" not "You NEED to watch/Don't ever Watch". It stays very close to unbiased and any bias you see feels more obvious and.... forgivable? It just seems people lose sight far too easily on why we enjoy things because in the end it all boils down to you either like it or don't.
Joshua W no one is through a rating saying you can't or must watch something. They are expressing simply how good they think the show is on a wider spectrum than passable or not,
You just earned a subscriber for breaking the fucking computer at the end of the video.
Marvelous video and I 100% agree.
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just give stuff a 1 or 0, 1 is good, enjoyable, or memorable for positive reasons, 0 is bad, boring, appalling, and memorable for awful reasons
This is why my system is or . And then series that are personal favorites, I say . And series that I wouldn't recommend? Well I probably stopped watching them, or if I watched to the end but don't think others should watch them: I just don't talk about them. At the end of the day if someone want's my opinion it's ether to just get the next show to watch - or they want me to actually talk out my thoughts. Either way, numbers are not needed.
I fucking love this guy
Is mr.laptop ok? ;__;
This world is filled with too much pain and suffering to keep going.
NOOOOO poor laptop :( he was a good working machine R.I.P
;_; , the moral of the story lean how to code in C++ rather than java is better for you'r latop health.
this comment is a joke, so please don't flame me.
A rating, for me, is a personal expression of relative enjoyment. If a show has a higher rating then another show, then I enjoyed watching it more then that show. Of course, this means I could just rate everything a 1, and the invariant would hold true, but I try to spread them out a bit, because having some (approximate) attempt at a metric provides utility: I can find shows I really liked more quickly, and I can show people what kind of things I liked, so they can help me find similar shows.
Talking about absolute ratings misses the point. A rating is a tool that you can use however you please, and just because some people idiotically try to find some absolute rating of art does not mean you cannot make use of numbers. What people ask for hen they want to see ratings is just a quick overview or index of your preferences.
If you want to rate things "I like it I like it, I don't I don't" then just rate everything a 10 or a 1, and call it a day. Easy solution.
Your coffee-brewing skills earned you a subscribe.
Also, sometimes the "art" that you see as "modern art" is sometimes not like "it represents X". Many are actually a mastery in a certain aspect of creation.
There is a fantastic video on "I could have done that" argument about Art : /watch?v=67EKAIY43kg
I feel like objectivity is more about rating how likely someone is to like something rather than it being universally liked. Especially since mass appeal is not the same thing as objectivity. Being objective is actually pointless unless you specifically mention WHO is likely to enjoy a show along with the score that is rated from the perspective of someone who might like it. It's likely that objectivity can only exist within genres and that it should be rated by comparison to other shows in that genre and how one might be perceived universally as more enjoyable and enriching to those who have their subjective tastes match up. TL;DR objectivity is hard, and doesn't mean an objectively good show will be liked by everyone, but it does exist. It just takes a lot of work to do correctly.
I would watch your videos only to see how you make coffee. Man it looks tasty!
3:03 Shots fired.
TLDR art is subjective, Numbers aren't. Smashing them together is fucking dumb.
Your arkada impression sounded kinda like Spike Spencer at the end. you should try that on for size
I wish you uploaded more dude, when I hit my yearly weeb phase I binge your videos.
I only rate things to remind myself of the quality of something if the situation needs it, plus I like to organize shit like that because Asperger's. *EDIT* Also the scores are more grades, similar to A, B and C, than anything else
Your videos are great dude.
1:34 Ahhh the hamlet quote that is more reflective of subjectivism and perception rather than a defense of relativism and it's implication of the objective quality of art. Taking stuff out of context is bad.
I like to give numerical scores, but I had to set a standard for measuring and use it for every show, based on plot, audio, usage of visuals and how much the show tells about the character and the story. It certainly doesn't tell everything about a show, but is fun to do.
A huge flaw of this is that you're using a quantitative measure to define something that must be measured qualitatively (hence the usage of good, bad, etc), and as such it will always be problematic. One of the main reasons is that there's no reason for everybody to agree about a standard transposition between qualitative and quantitative measurement.
Finally, to compare shows you focus on the execution of the idea rather that on the ideas. Say, one show about saving the world and another that tries to talk about existencialism. How natural the characters felt? Did the plot made sense in their respective contexts? Is there a conclusion? That kind of questions in stories. In plastic arts and music the beast is entirely different. That's why I feel okay with rating stories, but will never dare to judge those numerically.
I think you missed his point, as he was actually referring to the subjectivity and perception of the individual. I don't think he was ever really referring to relativism.
Don't skip the "implication on objective quality" stuff, which is the main critique I have about the usage of that quote. Also, relativism heavily uses the "everything is subjective" argument, which is basically what he's using right here.
Fou-Lu, The Dragon Emperor no actually he was referring to the concept of objective quality within art, which does not exist. Also he is not saying "everything is subjective" and no relativism argues that values, norms and social morals are socially contrusted and varies across regions and cultures. The concept you are thinking of is actually subjectivism. I tend to see the anime community, especially this within snob's camp make the mistake of using relativism incorrectly when they mean subjectivity. also he never argued that everything is subjective, but that all art forms are subjective to he interpretation of the inidivual viewing the art.
>concept of objective quality within art, which does not exist
Which is a hard to conceive idea given that art pieces are born with a purpose, therefore it's existence as object has a quality, determined by criteria such as how clear it transmit its purpose, etc
>relativism argues that values, norms and social morals are socially contrusted and varies across regions and cultures.
"Relativism is the concept that points of view have no absolute truth or validity within themselves, but rather only relative, subjective value according to differences in perception and consideration" Wikipedia, feel free to bring another source
In simpler terms, "everything is relative nothing is right or wrong", which is far from true unless we're talking about opinions, which are inherently based on uncertainty and aren't the only way to describe art there is.
Sure, moral relativism is a ramification of that ideology, but is not enclosed to it.
>make the mistake of using relativism incorrectly when they mean subjectivity.
That's because they use it as a counter to the argument "everything is relative" and so on and so forth. I've already shown the usage of relative is valid, but nevertheless you should've thought where does the usage of that word comes from.
>he never argued that everything is subjective, but that all art forms are subjective to he interpretation of the inidivual viewing the art.
Which doesn't negates the objectivity in art. Both aren't excluding one another. To get there you use rationality, debate and argumentation in order to distill the object which every individual experiences regardless of their perception of it.
Yes, art is purposeful; however, not objective. You cannot have an objective criterion for something that varies from person to person. You can be objectivity good at math or computers, because they do vary between space and time; however, something like literature and art varies from individual to individual. Criterion becomes useless at this point. Sure you can take off points for structures, tone and grammatical errors, but criterion of how the narrative communicates its purpose is never clear and is easily interpret many different ways. This is why English, art and other humanity based degree do not function well in our objective customer driven society.
Relativism: “the doctrine that knowledge, truth, and morality exist in relation to culture, society, or historical context, and are not absolute. “There are many different versions of “relativism”; however, it is mostly used to denote differences between cultures.
Subjectivism: “the doctrine that knowledge is merely subjective and that there is no external or objective truth.”
The counter argument of "everything is relative" is just a horrible flawed argument to give imo. However, I would say from a linguistic approach that “relativism” is not the word you are looking for, but I digress. Relativism tends to involve cultures or groups, while subjectivity involves the individual.
Except it actually does negate the objectivity in art. Objectivity by in large is the state or quality of being true even outside of a subject's individual biases, interpretations, feelings, and imaginings. Since everyone possess their own biases, interpretations, feelings, etc when experiencing art, the possibility of objectivity ceases to exist by default.
Let me give you an example. One can feel or interpret the equation 2 + 2 = 5, but that is not objectivity true. The equation 2 + 2 = 4 is still true even outside of a subject's individual biases, interpretations, feelings, and imaginings. The world stays round no matter how much you interpret the world as black-and-white flat plain. You cannot do that with art or literature. Yes, something can be grammatically wrong (as grammar is similar to a math equation) and other objectively sounded parts; however, the actual interpretation of the content within the narrative varies across space and time; from person to person. Using rationality, debate and argumentation does not distill objectivity, it simply bolsters your perceptions over another’s. That’s not objectivity.
Great video, as usual, but its driving me insane that I cant remember what anime those first clips are from.
I think a "how much of your time should you waste on this show" would be great.
Just embrace subjectivity when it comes to evaluating art.
I don't really see the point in being a "no rating purest" besides your viewers wont get mad at you for giving shows bad ratings.
for example lets take the no rating purest position to its extreme. I guess this means that Anno is not any better of a director than the guy who is directing bloodvores this season. But no one agrees with that so obviously there our some universally agreed upon stuff that people share to differentiate good anime from better anime.
So to me a no rating purest is just not living in the real world.
Ratings never was a way to say how good something was but a way to measure the average of how many other people liked it, which is bad because they have terrible taste
I rate your cat fat/10.
Imagine the "rating" as the extent to which you recommend others to look at given anime.
I take the ratings with a grain of salt. They are only one aspect of my decision to watch the anime, but they are important. If nobody would rate, the process of deciding would be more difficult and I would waste a lot of time by watching all-of-the-first-episodes to find out whether it's worth my time...
DAT JAVA BOOK DOE! Thats the same book i use in college, and yes slamming your programming book into your laptop is a totally normal thing if you're a computer science major.
Why is there an amazing anime youtuber without much light and yet others who are just so generic are with a million subs
finally...I hate that rating guy ..
you're a good man .
oh snap glass reflection roast
LMFAO at Arkada impression
I think you might be taking the concept of "rating" too seriously. Assigning a number to a series based on "goodness" is essentially just a straightforward way of communicating how much you liked it. I do agree that some people take it too far by having ten billion categories by which they score a series and then averaging them up to form a final score, though. Personally, I would go insane doing that.
Did you ever watch the entire series of Outlaw Star? You seem to like psychological/think outside the box craziness. Outlaw Star had that kind of ending. What do you think of Outlaw Star if you have seen it?
I love ur content and taste in music
first 12 seconds seen, i am enlightened
PS. love u
I love your stuff and your videos
You went Niel Breen on that laptop.
Respect.
No Demo... guess I'll just binge this guys videos
Great vid
Nice video mate, solid 9.21463/End of Evangelion
I am also terrible at it, which is why I removed all of my ratings a few months ago.
2:50 Ritsu best girl. The truth has been told.
So why don't you try to rate without math? For example: Comedy which are in your opinion not funny get a 3/10, shows with interesting ideas get at least a 7/10, everything you consider your favourites are a 9/10.
nop, of its funny it's because something, not magic, if the joke is well made, the timing, the setting, the script, who says it, etc. it can be a 10 in it's way, if no one have created a 10/10 comedy yet doesn't mean that there cannot be made
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yeah ... but this have nothing to do with my point.
That sounds very illogical and disorganized.
Ritsu Best Girl indeed.
The way I use the MAL format of scoring;
Assign a universal meaning to each integer (good, bad, rad, stromboli, etc)
See how many of your opinions of the reviewed show align with each meaning
Assign the show the integer the meaning is equivalent to.
Repeat.
This is the pseudocode of my mind.
Pervert.
Stoop doop steef, reviews in my understanding fall under three applications.
The first is for the uninitiated to have a starting point with their first delve into the reviewer's subject. For example, wine is, like art, subjective. Trying to compare different reds is like comparing the sunrise in egypt to the sunrise in Belarus. And yet, The Wine Advocate still exists, rating wines from 0 to 100 and is considered an important metric for wineries everywhere. Why does this man do this? Why do people listen to him? It is to provide an illusion of discernibility, by assigning an easily understood measuring stick to an impossible to measure metric, and scattering the wines to the winds. Now a new client of wineries has a place to start. A place where they can feel grounded, and begin to form their own opinions about wine off this scaffold of measurement. The objectivity is just a mirage that falls away at the slightest breeze, and everybody smart knows this, and everybody is happy with the service the reviewer is supplying, because it makes it easy for the novice to become an avid consumer.
The second is a more personal metric, where in someone limited in the resources needed to enjoy the medium (be it time or money) can find a reviewer with tastes similar to their own. Thus if the reviewer likes the subject, the viewer feels they are more likely to enjoy that subject too, and is more comfortable with committing resources to it's consumption. Preferably the reviewer is an exact copy of themselves. Thus the rating system for this purpose does not need to be an objective measure of something's quality, it is intentionally subjective, however the reviewer and the viewer theoretically share the same subjectivity/taste. This is where I think you could fall into.
The third application is reviews for entertainment. The subject of the review is secondary to the reviewer having a muse with which to flex their "personality and wit". See this video for explanation: ruclips.net/video/WPAITAuuk-8/видео.html
great video and your cat is fat cute.
good video you should open a coffee shop sudosef
solid video, I rate 7.5/10
Boy you messing with my main girl, Arkada?
when you watch a show do ever feel to place importance on the animation, cinematogrogy or directing?
hmi hope that java books isn't one i had to know
i just rate stuff based on how i enjoyed it, just saying that you found something to be good, is also a rating just in words, which well dons't translates well into a number..
but well good video
You are insane. Keep it up.
Make more vids dude
I got so sick of scores that I made css style and used it with browser addon Stylish to hide scores from anime pages on MAL.
Here's example of what anime pages look for me now: i.imgur.com/mPYzH5Z.png
Oh and I've also hidden reviews because they are distracting, and they have scores...
Kudos mate, that looks neat
Thanks.
I do appreciate shit: ok: good though, but it's only if I have a previous bias to something I'm yet to watch. Disingenuous but I think it's what the adverse viewer is looking for
i just go the other way around, i put 10's on literally everything
Oki so if you like something or don't like something either give it a 1 (Did not like it) or a 10 ( I liked it)....no inbetween. You say you like what you like, but you can let people know if you liked it or not. What is so wrong with letting someone know that you personally liked something. Like you said, you either did, or you didn't. Don't stay silent, express your feelings. By keeping all of the ratings blank, nobody has any idea if you actually enjoyed any of the shows you watched. Nobody knows if you would support any of them. Nobody knows what your favorite genre of anime is or what kind of style you like. It kind of feels like a cop out if you don't give your opinion because then you yourself cannot be judged. I kind of understand what you are saying, but I don't nessassarily agree with you. Express yourself just as the artist expressed themselves. You have every right to rate their work (especially if you are one of those people that actually buys anime). I mean, you also have the right to decide not to rate anime as well, but the explanation you gave as to why you don't just seems inhuman.
edit: By the way, I love your videos. Keep it up.
Thank you, captain obvious.
Also glad you agree with me on the re:zero score it's trash
sudo never leave us :(
you don't have to make a 6 minute video just to say that art is subjective, a lot of people i know score just to give themselves a rough example of how much they personally enjoyed a series and they are rating their own level of enjoyment rather than some arbitrary objective standard of 'good'.
However the more people that are saying this the better because people need to get it into their heads that objectivity doesn't exist in art and it's really at topic for debate about whether it exists for anything else in the first place
Good man now if only the rest of all the breaindead people could do the same :).
You could just do what most people do and rate what you enjoyed the most.
shots fired at 3:03 :)
Someday, i want to send to you some coffee from my country and i don't know what the results are gonna be either good or bad.
i dont understand all of these words, but, yes
So who sacrificed what to get Stef to upload? Also that Arkada call out, lel he made a video asking people to stop pirating anime.