One thing I feel should be mentioned about their designs, is that behind these teenage, mutant turtles. They are ninjas. Ninjas try to keep on light clothing so that they can move better and make less noise while moving. Only turtle I could see with a lot of stuff on is Donee, but even he keeps it light.
@@Iconhulk The very first design of the characters is probably the shortest they've ever been, and they're pretty short. Maybe not 4 feet tall but pretty short when compared to later versions
Jim Henson and his team absolutely nailed it with their version of the Turtles. Their design was cute but menacing. They brought the comics/cartoons to life. Bay's Michelangelo is creepy asf.
damm right...I'm a kid again when it Comes to my turtles, you Can't fuck them up and Im definitley not a fan of these turtles, I just watched the new turtles this year don't like these computerized shell backs lol
@@andremalerba5281 meh, my favourite scene was when the flashback when they were kids happened. The rest of the movie damn felt like "Transformers" but with turtles. Shredder being Megatron, and Sacks the idiotic agent in the transformers movie.
Something you forgot to mention is that the main focus of the story of the 2014 movie was not at the turtles. In my opinion this film was more focused on April and the turtles felt more like adds on her back story. But again that's just my opinion.
Completely agree. I hated how much we saw April and how little we saw of the turtles. It was one of the reasons I enjoyed the second film more because there were more scened dedicated to the turtles.
I'm still curious what it would have been like if Anna Kendrick got the role. But I'm also extremely biased in saying so since I think she's hilarious. I feel like her sense of humor would have matched well with the adult/teen humor. That fart jokes were also a litrle ridiculous. They made the movie pg-13, yet still added jokes for kids?
@@thesoccergirl30 don't forget that nickelodeon are the owners of TMNT. I am still surprised that they allowed DC to do a PG-13 movie with the turtles.
Surprisingly, this movie was actually my first introduction to the turtles. Well, unless you count some of the old action figures I found in my grandparent’s basement. I was really moved by this portrayal of Raphael, and found him especially relatable. Also I feel like his design was the coolest out of these versions. Of course now that I’ve seen and read many other versions I can honestly say that these Bay movies aren’t very great, but I still enjoy some elements of them
I feel like the turtles looked ok because if you were to meet a ninja turtles in real life I doubt they would look like thair old movies but part of the problem was that April had no real relationship with each turtle like for example I really wanted Donnie to have his crush on April or to have kari start to make trouble of some sort . Something I really missed was the friendship between Casey and raph . Maybe I am like this bc growing up I watched the 2007 and 2012 🐢
If you saw a ninja turtle in real life you doubt how it would look lol. Well I beg to differ and I prefer the original design because they look more like some turtles that just grew into humanoid shapes, which is what they were supposed to be.
Honestly my opinion hasn’t changed much but I’d like to touch on the subject again. Honestly the turtles themselves were a touchy subject to us fans because we all had different ideas of what version they would be using to inspire character design but again they were probably never planned to look like anything from previous adaptations because they were going for a more gritty look with the human -turtle hybrid being more prominent I can’t say I loved the way they looked but I didn’t hate it mainly thanks to the way each turtles personally was handled in the movie personally I think it was great but it only scratched the surface of who their characters were when it came to overall development.
I'd say that I hate the designs. I find the movies as a D+. They are certainly not the worst ever. But I will say, they are not good in my eyes. The turtles aren't giant hulking beasts. What's the point of having weapons if they are bullet proof and can just punch people across the room like the Hulk?
What went wrong? Michael Bay was involved, duh 🤣: "An eighteen-wheeler spins out of control and it's all like brosshh! And then this huge tanker full of dynamite - crrshghghhg!"
Thanks for these videos, I stumbled across it by accident but as a 1988 baby, I grew up on the original cartoon and movies. I hated this installment because the origin of shredder was so different and I did not like the way the Turtles looked. They did the same thing with the Power Rangers. I waited years for them to do a new Rangers movie and they botched it by messing with the origins and source material too much. I hope they go back to the original turtles trilogy aesthetics and or perhaps create a Part 4. Even if it was a new reboot I hope it resembles the original movie designs better. If they do it right, I think they could launch a whole mini Ninja Turtle Cinematic Universe. I would love to see a solo movie on Raphael defecting from the Turtles due to not being the leader and having to find his own path, as well as a Shredder origin movie and a Casey Jones movie.
there was so much that was ruined for me on my love or the turtles. First mistake was hiring Bay, who seemed like he knew nothing about the turtles history. Can’t wait to see your second part on it. I did enjoy the second one more with Bebop and Rocksteady, and i did nerd out with Krang lol. Looking forward to part two.
Megan Fox was the biggest downer for me. It's a reboot, and I can live with changes. What I can't live with is a movie dedicated to displaying Megan Fox's wide range of emotions, from 'Mouth open' to 'Mouth closed'.
I think both movies have fun moments, but neither of them are great. Both movies feature a character having a "growth" moment, but with no build up. So it feels forced. The second movie did clean up the look of the turtles a bit, but man I miss the look of the first 2 live action movies. In the first movie, the turtles feel a bit overpowered in that they only struggle when Shredder is around. But if he's not around, they're unstoppable. The 2nd movie handled that better. And finally, my biggest complaint. I hated Casey Jones in the 2nd movie.
It's kinda like the spiderman situation or Fantastic four reboots. Always the same story rehashed instead of doing some of the other storylines from their comics. Origin story, uncle Ben dying, green goblin. Origin story, get powers, dr doom. Origin story, mutation, shredder.
The first film isn't even a Turtles movie, it's a vanity project for an actress. If you kept Eric Sachs as Shredder, it's 100% an April story. The Turtles getting mutated is a side effect of Sachs killing her parents and Shredder is her enemy (who she gets to kill.) They're just kinda there, her flunky pets.
After watching both bay movies back to back, I definitely feel like the biggest problem is the design of the cgi characters, it feels like a similar situation to the sonic movie but unlike it, the bad designs are what stayed
@@chesspunk489 Eh, I grew up with the 90s series and I love it to death and the games that were based on that, but I think the 2003 series is better just because it's less silly and more serious, and the story and atmosphere are very similar to the OG comics, just with less blood and decapitations.
I don't think Optimus having a mouth is like a sin against nature. In fact, the show I grew up watching, Cybertron, had an Optimus with a visible mouth
Leopold Litchenstein well I own them and everything else they've come up with. I like em but they could've been perfected instead. We shall see how the all red sash turtles come out. That's what I'm looking forward to
You know I honestly do agree with the whole- "This movie was more April then the turtles" I didn't really like the design's all that much- feel like they could've done better on that front. Though there were things that I liked like I kind of liked Donnie's design- dude looks like a tech hermit and I love it. I feel like if this movie was done today, maybe ya know just maybe they could've gone like a sonic movie route. Keeping a cartoony esc design but adding more realistic esc stuff like fur and what not to it. I honestly think there should be another live action- but done in a similar style in the way sonic was done- I do like the aspect of them belonging to April, because its an interesting story choice. I'm all up from changing things up, like how Rise handled April. Her loud and proud personality really matches the turtles and over all Rise aesthetic. But That's Rise not the bay movie. Thats rise.
Different bandana types, belts, battle scares, skintones and body types... There's so many slight differences you can have between the turtles while still having the same overall design. The 2003, 2012 and 1990 versions all implemented stuff like that perfectly.
There were aspects of the movie I liked, they definitely got the character part of the turtles right. I like how they interacted with each other, the bickering/playfulness. And I didn't mind the look (had a bigger issue with splinters look), but agree they were way too big and powerful, especially Ralph. And shredder was way too much. The rewrites and reshoots really messed with him. Again overall I really liked there character moments and growth with the brothers, but bigger isn't always better.
2:31 - As someone that was the target audience during the old TMNT movies (really just the first 2) and the 90's animated series; the elevator scene was the only moment that felt like a true TMNT to me. Remember they are supposed to be teenagers BUT I always felt like they were in their early teens like 13 or 14; energetic, randomly playful, and can be easily distracted at moments. I don't know how you don't see it that way if you were a fan in the 90's.
And then they vastly overcompensated in Out Of The Shadows by trying to throw in every single memorable character from the original cartoon at once...and then giving them virtually no substance, development, or anything to do.
The comics are pretty great, but I personally only really liked the first issue. They should do a movie about that with the personalities and looks of the turtles in the 2003 and 2012 series.
I remember being excited about this when it was announced, my more so as he grew up with it and showed me the 80s show and watched the 2003 together. I remember seeing the look of disappointment on his face when we walked out of the theater for this movie. We didn't bother seeing the sequel.
And unto this very day, I've never seen the new TMNT movies...💯✔ I just had no desire to watch them...👌🏼 I absolutely loathe the way they look...😖 #notmyturtles
I loved the live action films!!! I'm still pissed they didn't film the final two films that were promised in the original 4. Were they perfect? Heck no, as much as i loved those two films, there is still a lot that I would change, but I didn't think thr series should be finished completely. Especially when they left concepts hanging in thin air as if they were going to make a following film :/
@@victor2641 There is a new animated film being made, but there is not a sequel to OOTS. :/ It was scrapped. I really enjoyed the actors and their protrayals of the turtles in these two films. I hope one day someone will give them another chance.
@@gavinlongbottom5901 I've heard the same. It infuriated me when I watched him in an interview and he mentioned how the four guys playing the turtles were treated horribly. As much as I would love to see the 4 of them together as the turtles again, it's not worth it if they will be treated that way.
@@Saltyaf38 it doesnt like change teenage mutant ninja turtle are now aliens from outer space. Lets just say the Xmen are from hatched in a lab following gamma ray experimentation. Or maybe hellboy can be from heaven really.
@@tattoodrdoke I'm not saying that was a good idea but just in general, if people change the origin the fan base is pissed off. If they mess with the designs, the fan base is pissed off. If they try to make shredder more of a death threat but taking away his personality, the fan base gets pissed.
@@Saltyaf38 fans will always be annoyed. All they have to do is respect the source material. Disney so far have done that with Marvel and it reflects in the numbers and general fan feedback from hardcore to casual.
One of my biggest things is the message. 90s movie taught us kids about leadership, anger management, humor, invention, family, honor, protecting the week and fighting for your rights and your freedom to speak, physical fitness lol, and the dangers of evil, feeling lost, revenge, betrayal and redemption ya know. The shell was Bay’s movies about? A little bit of family but mainly like bad mercenaries are bad? Idk man ugh Turtle Power man!!!
I think the movie was, decent. I honestly don't like how exaggerated Shredder's armor is, and how he depends on magnetic blades. And I really didn't like the unusual accessories all over the Turtles'. I really like how Splinter looks and talks. I honestly don't like Megan Fox playing April, I just can't imagine April looking and dressing how she does. Especially her in the Out of the Shadows movie.
The design for shredder is cool. But he had no personality, I still do like the voices as the turtles, especially Johnny Knoxville as leo. The turtles are very charming and all tho the designs aren't amazing. I think the origin is ok but could have been better. I like megan fox because in this movie April acutally does something, in the series she did nothing. She was only an excuse for a damsel is destress. The cgi is pretty good and the action scenes were too. Also Splinter wasnt just there master he was there father and the fight between shredder and Splinter was pretty cool. And I liked how mikey liked april this time because mikey always was the one to like girls and make jokes about woman. It just feels like his character to do that. Raphael had more depth in this movie than any other media he was in. He had more to his personality than just I'm edgy and angry all the time. He is my favorite turtle btw. And the best thing was... Donny did something more than machines.
I hope we get Mr travis knight for the reboot he proved he can make a franchise with bad movies into a good quality film and change people perspective. The man went full g1 with bumblebee and if he is indeed eyed as director you can bet hell make the designs look like the original tmnt looks or the cartoon or perhaps a combination of both
@@Vintiqueture trust me travis knight can make them look retro look at bumblebee the movie he made all the transformers look like their 80s look. Fun fact Micheal bay had no involvement in the movie he only produced it
@@KootenaiKing Money. Knoxville was just fine and for 'just fine' it was waaaaay cheaper to pay the CGI actor a bit extra than it was to re-hire Knoxville. They used that extra money to attempt to cash in on Batman with a bow...I mean Green Arrow to play Casey Jones.
@@psychedashell In that case, Pete Ploszek should have just been the voice to begin with. What was the point of having the characters be voiced by their motion capture performers EXCEPT Leonardo? Always felt odd. Plus in the trailer back in 2014 I always remember hearing two different voices for Leonardo in the scene where they interrogate April, (unless I'm mistaken) so I'm guessing they didn't know which one to go with, the production of these movies was such a mess.
"You are here because the outside world rejects you." that pretty much sums up MY childhood. now, I didnt go join no gang or nothin' but I was mostly a bedroom dweller if you will. kinda like Celldweller. to put it another way, I grew up in my bedroom so to speak.
Alot of you are not old to remember when Michael Zulli did issue #31, #35 and #36. His unique perspective on the ninja turtles and art work were fascinating. When the "bay" ninja turtles movie came out, it reminded me of Zulli's design for the turtles. I, as a life long fan since the very first issue of the comic books loved this different look.
(Love your Channel Brother) My main problem with both bay movies was a lack of in depth fight scenes and proper lighting! For one The Ninja Turtles are not pro wrestlers! I felt like i was watching a poorly light WWE TLC Match. The fight scenes were very choatic and I didnt know what to focus because the scenes were all ova the place! But in prior turtles movies the fight scenes was very focused on the subject at hand. And the turtles look like 6'4 aliens making it impossible to be stealthy ninjas! Thats like trying to pass off the Incredible Hulk as a Ninja it's just not gonna fly.
Phoenix Jackson oh I liked Out Of Shadows. it was pretty funny & good to see Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady instead of all these other bullsh*t monsters that stand in. Seemed like a live action episode of 2003 TMNT which I’m good with.
He didn't direct. However, I do have to question how much influence he had because it felt like he did. There was so much in both movies that reeked of him.
@tyrone kinard I was trying really hard to follow what you were trying to say to me, but MAN, trying to read that nearly gave me a headache. I feel like you were agreeing with me, but it's hard to tell.
I'm a huge fan of TMNT, its my childhood 100%. But I love this new look for them! Doesn't make me any less of a fan! I just think they look waaaaayyy cooler! They're amazing! Big, dressed really cool, individually styled. It's beautiful
My take on the bay tmnt. Is that people on the staff obviously loved the tmnt. But the higher ups just were in it for the money and they shit all over those fans work. The art direction also just killed the movie for most of the fan base. An finally they wernt ninjas they were the bay transformers gimmicks.
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They were transformers? How? Stfu that makes 0 sense
Megan fox wasnt bad per se as April, only problem with it was that she only had the sex appeal going for it and that made it uninteresting. And then it was those jokes that just wasnt funny or stuff where they could have putten in some easter eggs, like kinda singing an old intro song and get abrupted by someone saying its too corny, instead of throwing in whats popular today but will be dead and gone tomorrow. Biggest downside is that the best April Oneall was in a porn parody of those live action alternatives
real quick, i liked the elevator scene. from what I remember, it was one of the more liked scenes from the movie. Like, they're still teenagers. Teenagers bored on a long elevator lol. I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was making the turtles so big and super. Once it was realized that they bulletproof, that was it. Everything had to be big and better and the sequel villain would have to be even bigger than shredder. As far as Shredder goes, I think they should have just kept dude as Shredder but not THE Shredder. He could have remained a child apprentice that Oroko Saki had kidnapped and adopted in japan as a ploy to expand his enterprise. Then in the second, the turtles fight the REAL Shredder.
I have fond memories of drinking my Blue Raspberry Crush soda, filling out my online homework on my laptop, and entering the codes to receive free tickets for this movie. I took me and my brother to see it, and I liked it.
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Believe it or not, I actually liked the movie. It obviously has its share of problems but what adaption doesn't. With that being said, I thought you did a good job on the video. You certainly got a new subscriber! 😀
@@oxskull1831 in my personal opinion, I just don't like the turtles' design because it's not faithful to Eastman and Laird's turtles. The Bay designs would work for me if they weren't the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And the reason the turtles and Splinter look more humanoid in other adaptations is because if I remember right, the ooze was supposed to double the users' growth, double their intellect and in the 1987 cartoon they said it caused the user to take a similar form to the animal they last interacted with (in the case of the turtles, before falling into the sewers they used to be the pets of a human). But that's just my opinion, yours can be different from mine.
I wanted to like this movie so bad... but no, it sucked, turtles are to big, to over powered, terrible story line, terrible character development. The turtles were awesome cuz they were ninjas... Realistic, here they're just super heroes and Megan was awful... she has so much injected in her face she has ZERO expressions anymore...
As a huge Ninja turtles fan I really loved the 2014 Ninja turtles movie & it's sequel. I thought both of them were so awesome!! The only thing I didn't like about it was that they changed the story. I didn't like how the turtles were April's pets.
Silux Khan Idk I mean Im just not ready for us to talk orally. Id rather us meet in person before that. Besides Im in a rough patch in my life now. Plus there are some things about me you might not find too comfortable with. I just want to get the rest of this really nasty ass year and decade over with.
Never watched them and never have any desire of watching those two movies. Which is a bummer because The Ninja Turtles were life back in my childhood. Just makes me appreciate the Masterpiece that is the 1990 Movie more and more.
Yeah, not to forget those stupid glasses they put on Donatello. I mean, really? Broken glasses held with tap? I doubt even the biggest nerds these days do that. The fact that they think that since Donny is the smart guy, they give him glasses and other crap on him. It's a ignorant stereotype that out of touch baby-boomers would think. That design choice, among others, were the reasons why I blacklisted these movies.
It's been a long time since I suffered through these movies, but aside from the Urkel glasses, didn't they make him snort when he laughs and if I remember correctly, there was a throwaway line about him having a retainer? But that's Michael Bay and his over-the-top cliche stereotypes that he thinks are SO hilarious. Besides, how else were we supposed to know that he was the smart one unless he hammered it home?
Honestly, as a life long Turtles fan, I enjoyed the individuality of each brother. I thought it gave them a certain charm, similar to the 2012 designs by not making them all look exactly the same with just different colored bandanas.
I’m on the other side of the fence. I loved these movies. I accepted the change. I wanted the original actress to stay as Karai. I was so excited at the end of the last one. We got Bebop, Casey Jones, Rocksteady, almost got Baxter Stockman mutated. Oh, and we got Krang, with android body. I was hoping the next one would be filled with new mutants. I see nothing wrong with having a hot April. I love the transformers movies too. Thank you for the video
Michael Bay is hated because of what he did to another 80's iconic franchise that involved 2 races of Robots in disguise by the Hardcore fans of that franchise. The casuals still kept going until Bumblebee came out around the same time as Aquaman and got crushed. I love both TMNT films btw.
Bumblebee, for what it was, made a pretty decent amount. It probably wouldn't have done that good whether it was released alongside Aquaman or not though, because Last Knight didn't make as much as the previous sequels anyways, and most audiences probably wrote it off because they were sick of live action Transformers movies, even with the massive nostalgia blast the movie ended up being at points.
From the first one I really hated how they wanted their blood/dna... the enemies of the turtles were always about destroying them not using them . Plus I think the best version is dlc TMNT for injustice 2
Not a huge fan of the Bay Turtle films but I did find the sequel enjoyable when it was focused on the turtles themselves. As dumb as the all-of-a-sudden reveal of Krang was, I was hype at the theatre. But I remember being utterly disappointed in the first film. Left the theatre so disappointed
Honestly, these two movies are a mixed bag for me, while I felt the turtles' personalities were kind of accurate to how I interpret the turtles and the story of this movie was done in a way that I was entertained enough, not to mention I enjoyed the bit when they were in the elevator and Mikey was doing 'MC Mickey', at the same time, I don't like the designs of the Turtles, I didn't like how the Turtles felt a bit more like side characters in their own movie and I thought Megan Fox was GROSSLY miscast as April. NTM the aesthetic felt too Transformers-esque (and I'm not even a Transformers guy).
Eh, bring back the rubber suits is all imma say, was way to much sted head looking CGI for my liking, will also say confused the fuck outta me as to why they picked Megan as April & they left out Casey Jones too, I just pretend these versions don't exist lol
I actually recently rewatched these as they faded from my memory for the most part, and while I don't think the first one is as bad as I recall it being, neither are very good. The designs really hurt them in most areas for sure though, they shot themselves in the foot from the start.
I agree. The original turtles look more friendly too! They even look cute in places. Do you think cute when you look at Michael Bay's turtles up close?... Yeah... Right... That's what I thought. The TMNTs are supposed to be appealing to little kids! They should have some cute aspects to them!
The Coming Out of their Shells tour on VHS (with the vests) were a much better design than these. With these designs, they wouldn't be able to run or jump from how massive they are. You would need superhuman strength and godly speed to pull off what they could with tons of weight.
Ethan Conner Agreed. I honestly really wanted to hate the Bay-verse turtles, but they kiiiiinda became a guilty pleasure. Moreso with the second movie, because Donnie got some love in it.
why not go back to original designs, set it in 1990, have the same vibe of the comics and go farther into the bizarre world. but with the look of 1980s dark new york. the vibe of the original is fun, but you also feel like its the same new york from goodfellas, og harvey keitel bad leiutenant, taxi driver, romeo is bleeding.
Let's be real here. If the turtles were shrunk down in size. Like a LOT of the concept art has them, they'd actually look pretty good. Sure they'd still be covered in too much stuff, but they wouldn't be as notoriously bad I don't think.
Dear video creator, you made some excellent points and I agree with almost everything you said. I've a big 1980's Ninja Turtles fan and this new version just doesn't cut the mustard like the original live action film did.
the faces of the of the turtles and size of the turtles is the biggest issue i have since they don't look like Mutated turtles or teenagers to me, they'd definitely look cool in this size with better faces if they were intended to look like and be written to be adults, now as for the shredder, i love this design, honestly, something about his rather cool looking robotic suit with the crazy amount of blades just scream super shredder. also for the record, he looks more like a mechanized version of both 2003 Shredder and The Predator combined, rather than a transformer. but i really dislike the way he was written. just putting it out there.
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dude do now when new reboot movie star to filming
Paramount sey y the production star in this year
You need to do a face reveal
Michael Bay is what went wrong
One thing I feel should be mentioned about their designs, is that behind these teenage, mutant turtles. They are ninjas. Ninjas try to keep on light clothing so that they can move better and make less noise while moving. Only turtle I could see with a lot of stuff on is Donee, but even he keeps it light.
The dc injustice game did a much better job on the look of the turtles
Hell yes.. 😁😁👍👍
Oh yeah.
Yes. Although I do like when they look different from each other
yeah all the same turtles just different coller the masks
Well, INJUSTICE 2 merely took the base TMNT designs of the supremely perfect original 1990 film, and altered them as needed, for the game.
The turtles went from five foot six to six foot five.
Ha, I chuckled
@Yu Tubaru huh.. no. 4 '6 ? What are they nearly midgets? 5'8 Mikey to 6'0 Raphael
@@Iconhulk The very first design of the characters is probably the shortest they've ever been, and they're pretty short. Maybe not 4 feet tall but pretty short when compared to later versions
Are you guys dumb? These turtles were buildings
Lamo 😂
What went wrong? They are the NINJA TURTLES, not the Incredible Hulk. Mutant does not mean turn them into Hulks!
Steven Slouber They were extremely huge for no reason 😂
Damn this series to hell.
There not even that big dude.
Why does it fuckin matter ya dumb twat
Exactly
Jim Henson and his team absolutely nailed it with their version of the Turtles. Their design was cute but menacing. They brought the comics/cartoons to life. Bay's Michelangelo is creepy asf.
The turtles looking creepy (but actually being total bros) in the Bay version is the entire point.
@@mrsticky005 Which I can understand, because mutations might not sound good in reality.
Because there the most realistic?
So many creative people and talented people came together to make that 90 movie, today can't even duplicate or won't cuz its hard work
Yeah he does look a little strange but its realistic so yeah I fucking love it
Michael Bay should never be able to recreate beloved childhood classics.
Na this guy talking is that kid
Bay should never be allowed in Hollywood ever again. Period.
damm right...I'm a kid again when it Comes to my turtles, you Can't fuck them up and Im definitley not a fan of these turtles, I just watched the new turtles this year don't like these computerized shell backs lol
@@chwenhoou Its just about making a dollar for some people fuck the legacy
@@Jason_Belmont You know the producer really runs the show right? Directors are hired.
What didn't go wrong
The elevator scene on the first movie.
Just that.
@@andremalerba5281 that was the worst part
Its Michale Bay’s 2nd Grade writing abilities
@@andremalerba5281 Yeah that was gold, if only that scene had been longer I would've liked the movie.
@@andremalerba5281 meh, my favourite scene was when the flashback when they were kids happened. The rest of the movie damn felt like "Transformers" but with turtles. Shredder being Megatron, and Sacks the idiotic agent in the transformers movie.
Something you forgot to mention is that the main focus of the story of the 2014 movie was not at the turtles. In my opinion this film was more focused on April and the turtles felt more like adds on her back story. But again that's just my opinion.
Completely agree. I hated how much we saw April and how little we saw of the turtles. It was one of the reasons I enjoyed the second film more because there were more scened dedicated to the turtles.
Exactly
Bojidar Belov megan fox as april also made no sense. Its just so jarring.
I'm still curious what it would have been like if Anna Kendrick got the role. But I'm also extremely biased in saying so since I think she's hilarious. I feel like her sense of humor would have matched well with the adult/teen humor. That fart jokes were also a litrle ridiculous. They made the movie pg-13, yet still added jokes for kids?
@@thesoccergirl30 don't forget that nickelodeon are the owners of TMNT. I am still surprised that they allowed DC to do a PG-13 movie with the turtles.
1990 movie TMNT have never been topped in any medium.
It's not a masterpiece
It's a pretty mediocre movie dude. It's not that great. 2007 topped it.
@@Saltyaf38 Same, I will forever love, hold and cherish the 2007 movie, nobody will change my mind, those are the turtles to me
@@Merdicano 2007 and 2014 are my favorites. When ever 2007 came on Netflix I would watch it about 7-8 times.
@@Saltyaf38 Same as well, I enjoy them because I think they set up a good solid comic-book tone to turtles
Surprisingly, this movie was actually my first introduction to the turtles. Well, unless you count some of the old action figures I found in my grandparent’s basement. I was really moved by this portrayal of Raphael, and found him especially relatable. Also I feel like his design was the coolest out of these versions. Of course now that I’ve seen and read many other versions I can honestly say that these Bay movies aren’t very great, but I still enjoy some elements of them
I was born during the era of the bay turtles so I actually liked these versions of the ninja turtles
I feel like the turtles looked ok because if you were to meet a ninja turtles in real life I doubt they would look like thair old movies but part of the problem was that April had no real relationship with each turtle like for example I really wanted Donnie to have his crush on April or to have kari start to make trouble of some sort . Something I really missed was the friendship between Casey and raph . Maybe I am like this bc growing up I watched the 2007 and 2012 🐢
If you saw a ninja turtle in real life you doubt how it would look lol.
Well I beg to differ and I prefer the original design because they look more like some turtles that just grew into humanoid shapes, which is what they were supposed to be.
Honestly my opinion hasn’t changed much but I’d like to touch on the subject again. Honestly the turtles themselves were a touchy subject to us fans because we all had different ideas of what version they would be using to inspire character design but again they were probably never planned to look like anything from previous adaptations because they were going for a more gritty look with the human -turtle hybrid being more prominent I can’t say I loved the way they looked but I didn’t hate it mainly thanks to the way each turtles personally was handled in the movie personally I think it was great but it only scratched the surface of who their characters were when it came to overall development.
@Jake LaGotta that is a good argument though.
@Jake LaGotta Are u talking about
@Jake LaGotta oh I was talking about Jonathan I think I got the wrong name
Like most Bay Designs like Transformers, it’s too Busy. Half the time I don’t know what I’m lookin at
Especially all of the weird clutter on the shells, I like the idea but not the execution.
yes
But at least the transformers were box-office smashes unlike the TMNT
Right, thats the main reason I don't like transformers its too much going on
Facts 🤔
I like the movies but I can agree there not great. I think shredder should have a personal connection it makes him a better villian.
I still prefer the first one more
Absolutely. All the villains were rally bad in these, though I enjoyed other elements of the film
INSERTGODZILLANAMEHERE 1 Dear lord Shredder was wasted in both these movies. Great outfit designs yet they shat on his actual character.
I'd say that I hate the designs. I find the movies as a D+. They are certainly not the worst ever. But I will say, they are not good in my eyes. The turtles aren't giant hulking beasts. What's the point of having weapons if they are bullet proof and can just punch people across the room like the Hulk?
What went wrong? Michael Bay was involved, duh 🤣: "An eighteen-wheeler spins out of control and it's all like brosshh! And then this huge tanker full of dynamite - crrshghghhg!"
Thanks for these videos, I stumbled across it by accident but as a 1988 baby, I grew up on the original cartoon and movies. I hated this installment because the origin of shredder was so different and I did not like the way the Turtles looked. They did the same thing with the Power Rangers. I waited years for them to do a new Rangers movie and they botched it by messing with the origins and source material too much. I hope they go back to the original turtles trilogy aesthetics and or perhaps create a Part 4. Even if it was a new reboot I hope it resembles the original movie designs better. If they do it right, I think they could launch a whole mini Ninja Turtle Cinematic Universe. I would love to see a solo movie on Raphael defecting from the Turtles due to not being the leader and having to find his own path, as well as a Shredder origin movie and a Casey Jones movie.
DJ Skandalous they could never redo the power rangers as much as I love them bc without the o.g cast it won’t be the same
im a 1982 baby and Michael Bay is a turd IMO...... I am so sick of Hollywood and it's tired tropes. It's dead and needs to just fade away.
Yes
there was so much that was ruined for me on my love or the turtles. First mistake was hiring Bay, who seemed like he knew nothing about the turtles history. Can’t wait to see your second part on it. I did enjoy the second one more with Bebop and Rocksteady, and i did nerd out with Krang lol. Looking forward to part two.
Megan Fox was the biggest downer for me. It's a reboot, and I can live with changes. What I can't live with is a movie dedicated to displaying Megan Fox's wide range of emotions, from 'Mouth open' to 'Mouth closed'.
I think both movies have fun moments, but neither of them are great.
Both movies feature a character having a "growth" moment, but with no build up. So it feels forced.
The second movie did clean up the look of the turtles a bit, but man I miss the look of the first 2 live action movies.
In the first movie, the turtles feel a bit overpowered in that they only struggle when Shredder is around. But if he's not around, they're unstoppable. The 2nd movie handled that better.
And finally, my biggest complaint. I hated Casey Jones in the 2nd movie.
It's kinda like the spiderman situation or Fantastic four reboots. Always the same story rehashed instead of doing some of the other storylines from their comics. Origin story, uncle Ben dying, green goblin. Origin story, get powers, dr doom. Origin story, mutation, shredder.
I agree with this whole comment. That pretty much sums up how I feel about these movies
Have Turtles ever been great?
@@shadowban581 y eso que no viste el de la historieta compadre, ese Casey Jones si estaba bien loco, salía gritando ooga booga y mmds así.
agree
When I was a kid the TMNT were short like 5'2 to 5'5 now in the Michael Bay movies they look massive.
Bay was probably afraid that short mutant turtles wouldn't be taken seriously. As if a master ninja the size of a sumo wrestler would look better...
Elron why not...
shit looks just like transformers
In the original cartoon they were 4ft
BBBHuey but still they don’t have to be these big ass monsters in that movie but there faces god looks like they sucker punched in the face
The first film isn't even a Turtles movie, it's a vanity project for an actress. If you kept Eric Sachs as Shredder, it's 100% an April story. The Turtles getting mutated is a side effect of Sachs killing her parents and Shredder is her enemy (who she gets to kill.) They're just kinda there, her flunky pets.
It was the introduction in the first one
@tyrone kinard Um, Steve Barron is also European. So a foreign person can make it work, you just gotta love the source material.
You give Vapid Fox way too much credit by labeling her an "actress".
Michael Bay help create transfromers movies not focused on the robots. Its no surprise his ninja turtles movie isnt focused on teenaged mutants
Same with bays transformers. The humans are the main characters and the transformers are kinda just...there.
After watching both bay movies back to back, I definitely feel like the biggest problem is the design of the cgi characters, it feels like a similar situation to the sonic movie but unlike it, the bad designs are what stayed
"This is tricky to talk about" No it isn't... it fucking sucked.
These turtles got me into the franchise, only for me to discover that pretty much everything except for that weird 90s series was greater.
Certainly?
Gross
That weird 90s series > everything else
Don't forget the christmas special.
@@chesspunk489 Eh, I grew up with the 90s series and I love it to death and the games that were based on that, but I think the 2003 series is better just because it's less silly and more serious, and the story and atmosphere are very similar to the OG comics, just with less blood and decapitations.
What went wrong?
Everything!
I was just about to type the same thing
Pretty much.
That Guy Nobody wants They used Michael Bay. Nuff said.
The bay turtles look absolutely terrible.
Every movie character that appears in his movie looks off.
The problem was Michael Bay. Should've known when he gave Optimus Prime a mouth.
I don't think Optimus having a mouth is like a sin against nature. In fact, the show I grew up watching, Cybertron, had an Optimus with a visible mouth
Leopold Litchenstein losses authenticity. I'm old school like that
@@duhitsabner9922 I still don't really have any issues with it, even though I too prefer the face mask if given the choice
Leopold Litchenstein well I own them and everything else they've come up with. I like em but they could've been perfected instead.
We shall see how the all red sash turtles come out. That's what I'm looking forward to
@@duhitsabner9922 I doubt it will happen, but I would love to see it
You know I honestly do agree with the whole-
"This movie was more April then the turtles"
I didn't really like the design's all that much- feel like they could've done better on that front. Though there were things that I liked like
I kind of liked Donnie's design- dude looks like a tech hermit and I love it.
I feel like if this movie was done today, maybe ya know just maybe they could've gone like a sonic movie route. Keeping a cartoony esc design but adding more realistic esc stuff like fur and what not to it.
I honestly think there should be another live action- but done in a similar style in the way sonic was done-
I do like the aspect of them belonging to April, because its an interesting story choice. I'm all up from changing things up, like how Rise handled April. Her loud and proud personality really matches the turtles and over all Rise aesthetic.
But That's Rise not the bay movie. Thats rise.
opinion base wise I guess. I prefer a much realistic and bulky design, it makes it more immersive.
Different bandana types, belts, battle scares, skintones and body types... There's so many slight differences you can have between the turtles while still having the same overall design. The 2003, 2012 and 1990 versions all implemented stuff like that perfectly.
There were aspects of the movie I liked, they definitely got the character part of the turtles right. I like how they interacted with each other, the bickering/playfulness. And I didn't mind the look (had a bigger issue with splinters look), but agree they were way too big and powerful, especially Ralph. And shredder was way too much. The rewrites and reshoots really messed with him. Again overall I really liked there character moments and growth with the brothers, but bigger isn't always better.
Probably the best summary I've heard for why the film wasn't great that wasn't
"Michael Bay can suck my cock."
I cringe whenever I see these monsters. Those ain't my ninja turtles 😡
@Lil 210 Kasino whats wrong why the turtles look like the incredible booger hulk
😂😂I feel you
The designs are awesome.
The turtles in tmnt 2014 looks so awful and looks like the Incredible Hulk
It’s called realism
What went wrong?
Well let’s start with the design...
HISHE sums it up
14:40 And that is why Somic lost his human teeth in HIS reboot...
2:31 - As someone that was the target audience during the old TMNT movies (really just the first 2) and the 90's animated series; the elevator scene was the only moment that felt like a true TMNT to me. Remember they are supposed to be teenagers BUT I always felt like they were in their early teens like 13 or 14; energetic, randomly playful, and can be easily distracted at moments. I don't know how you don't see it that way if you were a fan in the 90's.
They disrespected the source material, most notably the design of the turtles. That was enough to turn me off to watching this movie.
exactly...I think I'm Pissed about that aspect alone,its like his pride got in the way thinking he could make it his own way total disrespect
The idea of a cgi/live action turtle movie is a good idea
@@jasonsmith530 if properly implemented, basically you should never be able to tell it's CGI
This was definitely a one and DONE for me. A horrible remake of an epic franchise!
And then they vastly overcompensated in Out Of The Shadows by trying to throw in every single memorable character from the original cartoon at once...and then giving them virtually no substance, development, or anything to do.
I want to see a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle close to the comic books and close to "Turtle Tracks" the first episode.
No it’s wasn’t the comic had killing in it
cowchipsbotme 18
The comics are pretty great, but I personally only really liked the first issue. They should do a movie about that with the personalities and looks of the turtles in the 2003 and 2012 series.
I remember being excited about this when it was announced, my more so as he grew up with it and showed me the 80s show and watched the 2003 together. I remember seeing the look of disappointment on his face when we walked out of the theater for this movie. We didn't bother seeing the sequel.
Sweet Bread but bebop n' rocksteady
You mean your dad?
And unto this very day, I've never seen the new TMNT movies...💯✔ I just had no desire to watch them...👌🏼 I absolutely loathe the way they look...😖 #notmyturtles
"The overall look of the Turtles hurt this movie for sure"
The way the Turtles looked has stopped me from watching it to this day. Easy pass.
Same lol
I loved the live action films!!! I'm still pissed they didn't film the final two films that were promised in the original 4. Were they perfect? Heck no, as much as i loved those two films, there is still a lot that I would change, but I didn't think thr series should be finished completely. Especially when they left concepts hanging in thin air as if they were going to make a following film :/
I'm pretty sure it was stated that the third one is coming out on 2023 but it just be another reboot.
@@victor2641 There is a new animated film being made, but there is not a sequel to OOTS. :/ It was scrapped. I really enjoyed the actors and their protrayals of the turtles in these two films. I hope one day someone will give them another chance.
@@thesoccergirl30 well the actor for raphael doesnt want another and i think thats the same for most of the cast
@@gavinlongbottom5901 I've heard the same. It infuriated me when I watched him in an interview and he mentioned how the four guys playing the turtles were treated horribly. As much as I would love to see the 4 of them together as the turtles again, it's not worth it if they will be treated that way.
What went wrong? Michael Bay.
No Michael bay good
In a nutshell moved too far from the source material.
This fan base really dosent like change.
@@Saltyaf38 it doesnt like change teenage mutant ninja turtle are now aliens from outer space. Lets just say the Xmen are from hatched in a lab following gamma ray experimentation. Or maybe hellboy can be from heaven really.
@@tattoodrdoke I'm not saying that was a good idea but just in general, if people change the origin the fan base is pissed off. If they mess with the designs, the fan base is pissed off. If they try to make shredder more of a death threat but taking away his personality, the fan base gets pissed.
@@Saltyaf38 fans will always be annoyed. All they have to do is respect the source material. Disney so far have done that with Marvel and it reflects in the numbers and general fan feedback from hardcore to casual.
@@tattoodrdoke but then these products get stail. Its nice to take a risk and disney has changed alot of things with the mcu but people like them.
One of my biggest things is the message. 90s movie taught us kids about leadership, anger management, humor, invention, family, honor, protecting the week and fighting for your rights and your freedom to speak, physical fitness lol, and the dangers of evil, feeling lost, revenge, betrayal and redemption ya know. The shell was Bay’s movies about? A little bit of family but mainly like bad mercenaries are bad? Idk man ugh Turtle Power man!!!
I think the movie was, decent. I honestly don't like how exaggerated Shredder's armor is, and how he depends on magnetic blades. And I really didn't like the unusual accessories all over the Turtles'. I really like how Splinter looks and talks. I honestly don't like Megan Fox playing April, I just can't imagine April looking and dressing how she does. Especially her in the Out of the Shadows movie.
These turtles are just complete trash in every way ***change my mind***
I can't
The design for shredder is cool. But he had no personality, I still do like the voices as the turtles, especially Johnny Knoxville as leo. The turtles are very charming and all tho the designs aren't amazing. I think the origin is ok but could have been better. I like megan fox because in this movie April acutally does something, in the series she did nothing. She was only an excuse for a damsel is destress. The cgi is pretty good and the action scenes were too. Also Splinter wasnt just there master he was there father and the fight between shredder and Splinter was pretty cool. And I liked how mikey liked april this time because mikey always was the one to like girls and make jokes about woman. It just feels like his character to do that. Raphael had more depth in this movie than any other media he was in. He had more to his personality than just I'm edgy and angry all the time. He is my favorite turtle btw. And the best thing was... Donny did something more than machines.
@@Saltyaf38 Raphael my favourite turtle 😊
Still trash
@@darknotionfilm your trash
The turtles design was bad I hated that.
How else do you imagine them to look like? Cartoon looking?
Tsu' Tey like injustice 2
the TMNT are only meant to be around 5 1/2 ft tall tho.. not giants like in this CG horror
They should removed these nose.
@@luka9911 that's gotta be one of the dumbest questions I have ever seen.
I hope we get Mr travis knight for the reboot he proved he can make a franchise with bad movies into a good quality film and change people perspective. The man went full g1 with bumblebee and if he is indeed eyed as director you can bet hell make the designs look like the original tmnt looks or the cartoon or perhaps a combination of both
a what to see actors in costumes like the 90 movie
@@joserafaelmesseguer5930 huh?
@@snokoan2 he wants costumed actors back - I'm sure a vast majority of us old school fans do!
@@Vintiqueture trust me travis knight can make them look retro look at bumblebee the movie he made all the transformers look like their 80s look. Fun fact Micheal bay had no involvement in the movie he only produced it
For sure!,I loved bumblebee!!
I always thought that they looked more like frogs in the new movie than turtles.
The best versión turtles is Michael Bay . and especial love with Donnie
The design is the worst element: they look like four Incredible Hulks instead of Turtles.
I agree
They look like Kung fu panda rejects
Johnny Knoxville was suprisingly fine as the voice of Leo...
I wonder why he didn't come back for 'Out of the Shadows'?
@@KootenaiKing Money.
Knoxville was just fine and for 'just fine' it was waaaaay cheaper to pay the CGI actor a bit extra than it was to re-hire Knoxville.
They used that extra money to attempt to cash in on Batman with a bow...I mean Green Arrow to play Casey Jones.
@@psychedashell lol that guy made casey jones sound like a bitch
What. He was Leo? I never knew. Don't at me. I don't like looking up who are voicing characters. (+)
@@psychedashell In that case, Pete Ploszek should have just been the voice to begin with. What was the point of having the characters be voiced by their motion capture performers EXCEPT Leonardo? Always felt odd.
Plus in the trailer back in 2014 I always remember hearing two different voices for Leonardo in the scene where they interrogate April, (unless I'm mistaken) so I'm guessing they didn't know which one to go with, the production of these movies was such a mess.
This movie could have easily been called the April O'Neil story
"You are here because the outside world rejects you." that pretty much sums up MY childhood. now, I didnt go join no gang or nothin' but I was mostly a bedroom dweller if you will. kinda like Celldweller. to put it another way, I grew up in my bedroom so to speak.
Same
Alot of you are not old to remember when Michael Zulli did issue #31, #35 and #36. His unique perspective on the ninja turtles and art work were fascinating. When the "bay" ninja turtles movie came out, it reminded me of Zulli's design for the turtles. I, as a life long fan since the very first issue of the comic books loved this different look.
(Love your Channel Brother) My main problem with both bay movies was a lack of in depth fight scenes and proper lighting! For one The Ninja Turtles are not pro wrestlers! I felt like i was watching a poorly light WWE TLC Match. The fight scenes were very choatic and I didnt know what to focus because the scenes were all ova the place! But in prior turtles movies the fight scenes was very focused on the subject at hand. And the turtles look like 6'4 aliens making it impossible to be stealthy ninjas! Thats like trying to pass off the Incredible Hulk as a Ninja it's just not gonna fly.
Nailed it
it went wrong not focusing on the Turtles. then they corrected it in part 2, but no one trusted it by then
android131c Even though that’s true it’s still sad cuz the first one was surprisingly better 😂
Phoenix Jackson oh I liked Out Of Shadows. it was pretty funny & good to see Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady instead of all these other bullsh*t monsters that stand in. Seemed like a live action episode of 2003 TMNT which I’m good with.
What went wrong? Having Michael Bay as the director nuff said
PrinceTrunks26 if I’m not mistaken he was the producer.
He didn't direct. However, I do have to question how much influence he had because it felt like he did. There was so much in both movies that reeked of him.
@tyrone kinard I was trying really hard to follow what you were trying to say to me, but MAN, trying to read that nearly gave me a headache. I feel like you were agreeing with me, but it's hard to tell.
He literally said that he wasn't
I'm a huge fan of TMNT, its my childhood 100%. But I love this new look for them! Doesn't make me any less of a fan! I just think they look waaaaayyy cooler! They're amazing! Big, dressed really cool, individually styled. It's beautiful
I actually like Bays turtles and I'm a tmnt purest, sure they 6ft tall and learned ninjutsu from a pamplet but they were fun to watch
You contradicted yourself.
My take on the bay tmnt. Is that people on the staff obviously loved the tmnt. But the higher ups just were in it for the money and they shit all over those fans work. The art direction also just killed the movie for most of the fan base. An finally they wernt ninjas they were the bay transformers gimmicks.
They were transformers? How? Stfu that makes 0 sense
The writing, the look of the turtles, casting Megan Fox, Micheal Bay, not getting Kevin Eastman's approval, pick one.
....or Foot Clan TERRORISTS!!!!
Megan fox wasnt bad per se as April, only problem with it was that she only had the sex appeal going for it and that made it uninteresting. And then it was those jokes that just wasnt funny or stuff where they could have putten in some easter eggs, like kinda singing an old intro song and get abrupted by someone saying its too corny, instead of throwing in whats popular today but will be dead and gone tomorrow.
Biggest downside is that the best April Oneall was in a porn parody of those live action alternatives
zilvertron Yes....and that's probably not her real name, lol.
Dammit how did they make the movie without Eastman's approval???
all the above
Yeah what a disaster...
real quick, i liked the elevator scene. from what I remember, it was one of the more liked scenes from the movie. Like, they're still teenagers. Teenagers bored on a long elevator lol.
I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was making the turtles so big and super. Once it was realized that they bulletproof, that was it. Everything had to be big and better and the sequel villain would have to be even bigger than shredder.
As far as Shredder goes, I think they should have just kept dude as Shredder but not THE Shredder. He could have remained a child apprentice that Oroko Saki had kidnapped and adopted in japan as a ploy to expand his enterprise. Then in the second, the turtles fight the REAL Shredder.
I have fond memories of drinking my Blue Raspberry Crush soda, filling out my online homework on my laptop, and entering the codes to receive free tickets for this movie. I took me and my brother to see it, and I liked it.
Zoomer detected..... work ethic is everything make sure you value adversity and forging your own path in life. DO NOT blame other people for problems you encounter.
@@Andronicus87 Kid, I'm older than you.
@@Andronicus87 he wasn’t what are on about?
Believe it or not, I actually liked the movie. It obviously has its share of problems but what adaption doesn't. With that being said, I thought you did a good job on the video. You certainly got a new subscriber! 😀
Same
The only criticism I have is that they’re over dressed, as for their look what the hell did people expect a mutated turtle look like?
@@oxskull1831 in my personal opinion, I just don't like the turtles' design because it's not faithful to Eastman and Laird's turtles. The Bay designs would work for me if they weren't the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
And the reason the turtles and Splinter look more humanoid in other adaptations is because if I remember right, the ooze was supposed to double the users' growth, double their intellect and in the 1987 cartoon they said it caused the user to take a similar form to the animal they last interacted with (in the case of the turtles, before falling into the sewers they used to be the pets of a human).
But that's just my opinion, yours can be different from mine.
I wanted to like this movie so bad... but no, it sucked, turtles are to big, to over powered, terrible story line, terrible character development. The turtles were awesome cuz they were ninjas... Realistic, here they're just super heroes and Megan was awful... she has so much injected in her face she has ZERO expressions anymore...
The original adaptation doesn't have any problems. The Bay movies are shit!
As a huge Ninja turtles fan I really loved the 2014 Ninja turtles movie & it's sequel. I thought both of them were so awesome!! The only thing I didn't like about it was that they changed the story. I didn't like how the turtles were April's pets.
Silux Khan Glad to see nobody has given you crap over loving them yet
@@justinratcliffe947 when are we going to exchange numbers bro? We should hurry up & do it so we could text each other instead of talking on here.
Silux Khan Idk I mean Im just not ready for us to talk orally. Id rather us meet in person before that. Besides Im in a rough patch in my life now. Plus there are some things about me you might not find too comfortable with. I just want to get the rest of this really nasty ass year and decade over with.
@@justinratcliffe947 there are some things about me that you might not be to comfortable with either. We all have that
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Never watched them and never have any desire of watching those two movies. Which is a bummer because The Ninja Turtles were life back in my childhood.
Just makes me appreciate the Masterpiece that is the 1990 Movie more and more.
Me innocently entering video.
First thing I hear: You are here because the outside world rejects you.
Well I mean..........is he wrong?
Where is part 2??
waithing news for the new reboot movie
Yeah, not to forget those stupid glasses they put on Donatello. I mean, really? Broken glasses held with tap? I doubt even the biggest nerds these days do that.
The fact that they think that since Donny is the smart guy, they give him glasses and other crap on him. It's a ignorant stereotype that out of touch baby-boomers would think. That design choice, among others, were the reasons why I blacklisted these movies.
It's been a long time since I suffered through these movies, but aside from the Urkel glasses, didn't they make him snort when he laughs and if I remember correctly, there was a throwaway line about him having a retainer? But that's Michael Bay and his over-the-top cliche stereotypes that he thinks are SO hilarious. Besides, how else were we supposed to know that he was the smart one unless he hammered it home?
Honestly, as a life long Turtles fan, I enjoyed the individuality of each brother. I thought it gave them a certain charm, similar to the 2012 designs by not making them all look exactly the same with just different colored bandanas.
Yeah I really enjoyed this movie, I think people be to focused on a movie instead of just enjoying
the 2014 of TMNT was garbage
I hated they weren’t ninja like and were super strong and tall as hell🤦🏽♂️
kregan Regan They're mutated, of course they are strong.
What went wrong - they look like Mucinex boogers - the end. There I saved you the time.
The looks aren't that bad, one can get used to it, but the story, the script, the dialogue were shity as hell; the worst part for me was Megan Fox...
fenrirdarkfangs exactly, they looked real, casting Megan fox ruined the movie, in my personal opinion she cannot act.
@@fenrirdarkfangs Better than most woke content nowadays
@@dylanmijer2890 At least not as controversial as Brie Larson or Jennifer Lawrence
@@dylanmijer2890 At least she care about playing April than Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique who went there for a paycheck
I’m on the other side of the fence. I loved these movies. I accepted the change. I wanted the original actress to stay as Karai. I was so excited at the end of the last one. We got Bebop, Casey Jones, Rocksteady, almost got Baxter Stockman mutated. Oh, and we got Krang, with android body. I was hoping the next one would be filled with new mutants. I see nothing wrong with having a hot April. I love the transformers movies too. Thank you for the video
It may not have been directed by Michael Bay but it may have well been since the guy who did direct it is essentially Michael Bay Lite.
7:32 THIS dude plays Shredder? Really??? Isnt Shredder freakin' Japanese?
They don't look like the turtles in this movie, it's pure garbage......1990 TMNT is the BEST!
Facts
Michael Bay is hated because of what he did to another 80's iconic franchise that involved 2 races of Robots in disguise by the Hardcore fans of that franchise. The casuals still kept going until Bumblebee came out around the same time as Aquaman and got crushed.
I love both TMNT films btw.
Bumblebee, for what it was, made a pretty decent amount. It probably wouldn't have done that good whether it was released alongside Aquaman or not though, because Last Knight didn't make as much as the previous sequels anyways, and most audiences probably wrote it off because they were sick of live action Transformers movies, even with the massive nostalgia blast the movie ended up being at points.
I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME
From the first one I really hated how they wanted their blood/dna... the enemies of the turtles were always about destroying them not using them . Plus I think the best version is dlc TMNT for injustice 2
Not a huge fan of the Bay Turtle films but I did find the sequel enjoyable when it was focused on the turtles themselves. As dumb as the all-of-a-sudden reveal of Krang was, I was hype at the theatre. But I remember being utterly disappointed in the first film. Left the theatre so disappointed
Well, the ooze in the original comic books WAS from outer space. It was created by the Utroms at the TCRI building.
yeah but the turtles in the original comic werent 7 foot mini hulks.
@@Shiirow Oh, I know. I like the short version of the TMNT. Making them hulking monsters was pretty ridiculous.
What If We Got Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles?!
@tyrone kinard Yep
ULTRA AVENGER
I would hunt down the wise guys who made them and crush their bones..........
Casey Jones is dead serious.
Aw fucc yeah let's go watch some *T . A . N . T.*
They mess this turtles up they look ugly and look at splinter he gives me nightmare's
Honestly, these two movies are a mixed bag for me, while I felt the turtles' personalities were kind of accurate to how I interpret the turtles and the story of this movie was done in a way that I was entertained enough, not to mention I enjoyed the bit when they were in the elevator and Mikey was doing 'MC Mickey', at the same time, I don't like the designs of the Turtles, I didn't like how the Turtles felt a bit more like side characters in their own movie and I thought Megan Fox was GROSSLY miscast as April. NTM the aesthetic felt too Transformers-esque (and I'm not even a Transformers guy).
Eh, bring back the rubber suits is all imma say, was way to much sted head looking CGI for my liking,
will also say confused the fuck outta me as to why they picked Megan as April & they left out Casey Jones too, I just pretend these versions don't exist lol
I actually recently rewatched these as they faded from my memory for the most part, and while I don't think the first one is as bad as I recall it being, neither are very good.
The designs really hurt them in most areas for sure though, they shot themselves in the foot from the start.
The only thing I appreciate of the film is the score composed by Brian Tyler
It was a pretty cool theme
A grear TMNT movie for you guys to check out is the new animated film where they meet batman
I agree. The original turtles look more friendly too! They even look cute in places. Do you think cute when you look at Michael Bay's turtles up close?... Yeah... Right... That's what I thought.
The TMNTs are supposed to be appealing to little kids! They should have some cute aspects to them!
My nephew and I were having nightmares after watching Michael Bay's tmnt
The Coming Out of their Shells tour on VHS (with the vests) were a much better design than these. With these designs, they wouldn't be able to run or jump from how massive they are. You would need superhuman strength and godly speed to pull off what they could with tons of weight.
Yeah they are way to big
To be honest I liked the sequel better than then first
Ethan Conner Agreed. I honestly really wanted to hate the Bay-verse turtles, but they kiiiiinda became a guilty pleasure. Moreso with the second movie, because Donnie got some love in it.
When u add krang, bebop, rocksteady and casey jones shit is gonna be better.
@@omacktube Plus, they did use the 87 TMNT theme song during the credits ^^
"Uncertainty was a feeling I feel best describes my feelings...."
Yes, but how did you FEEL?
why not go back to original designs, set it in 1990, have the same vibe of the comics and go farther into the bizarre world. but with the look of 1980s dark new york. the vibe of the original is fun, but you also feel like its the same new york from goodfellas, og harvey keitel bad leiutenant, taxi driver, romeo is bleeding.
Let's be real here. If the turtles were shrunk down in size. Like a LOT of the concept art has them, they'd actually look pretty good. Sure they'd still be covered in too much stuff, but they wouldn't be as notoriously bad I don't think.
Those movies weren't very good but still better than rise of the tmnt
I agrees
haha hell no. that actually has heart. those were a cheap cash grab
The fact that they had "Ninja" in the title and hardly any martial arts in the movie is a recipe for failure.
How they pretty much did martial arts were u blind
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my favourite scene was the Victoria Secret poster on top of the building with Raph and Mikey
Dear video creator, you made some excellent points and I agree with almost everything you said. I've a big 1980's Ninja Turtles fan and this new version just doesn't cut the mustard like the original live action film did.
the faces of the of the turtles and size of the turtles is the biggest issue i have since they don't look like Mutated turtles or teenagers to me, they'd definitely look cool in this size with better faces if they were intended to look like and be written to be adults, now as for the shredder, i love this design, honestly, something about his rather cool looking robotic suit with the crazy amount of blades just scream super shredder. also for the record, he looks more like a mechanized version of both 2003 Shredder and The Predator combined, rather than a transformer. but i really dislike the way he was written.
just putting it out there.