Wasn't the comic version of Ralph and Casey fight apart of the original Comic book. Because wasn't this in the micro comic Raphael. Because I know that it was Leonardo that the foot fought on the Roof of April's apartment and they threw him threw a window.
The old Turtles Den sometimes when they release a movie and they have a book that comes out based on the movie extra scenes that they could not put into the movie for whatever reason is added into the book that includes dialogue as well so that may be why they may have been a reason why it wasn't shot or add to movie so that might be various reasons if they release an anniversary edition I don't think any of this footage exist because it was added to the comic book version of the movie which I must be impressed I didn't know actually existed so what the other deleted scenes I suppose they could put back in but I do agree with you on that it would be nice to see the scenes that were actually shot at it back and release all three Ninja Turtle movies in a trilogy pack but let's not hold our breath this is the movie industry referring to they haven't had a original idea in how long I don't think I need to tell you but I do agree with you if they do need to do that but will it happen don't hold our breaths dreams are nice but that's all they are thank you again for adding some more insightful things and I didn't know there was an actual book based on the movie I can take a look into getting it good luck great material thank you again😂
THE OLD TURTLE DEN - by Tonight's Top Movie Moment The only thing that I didn’t like about the original is the way splinter learn karate it should’ve follow the comic to the tea
the shredder sews there failures on to there skin so they never forget, it was supposedly removed for being to violent, shame really set the tone of how bad as he is and really amps up the roof top confrontation!
The scene where Shredder fights the thugs while sitting is actually him punishing the thugs who failed to mug April in the alley. It's in the comic and novelization of the movie.
Yes. The novel is more brutal. When Tatsu attacks the foot for failing to kill the Turtles, he kills on of the the foot soldiers after Shredder glares at him for letting the turtles escape. It was originally shot that the guy gets killed but was later redubbed saying that the guy will be ok.
That's why I love comic and novel adaptations! They have all the parts that always seem to have been made for the film but we're edit out for various reasons.
Don't forget shinsho's death, tatsu was originally supposed to kill shinsho in the locker room like in the original script for the film but it was cut due to the scene being too dark and sad so it got changed up to him being critically injured from the attack.
I remember seeing those shells rising from the water when I was 5 and being shocked that I didn't see it in the actual film. My parents even took me back to the theaters to see the movie again, in case I somehow missed it. Now, 30 years later, I'm getting closure.
There was also a bunch of cut scenes on the farm. - One had the gang doing a sparring match where Leo turned his mask around to fight the others. Donny wears a straw hat in the scene. - Lots and lots of April and Casey ship tease, including Casey trying and failing to fix the truck door and April showing Casey her drawings of the Turtles. - More scenes of Mikey being angsty, which led into the Turtle Wax scene and told April and Casey that Mikey was back to normal. - A training scene where the Turtles played Hot Potato using an apple. This is why Raphael has an apple at the start of the final act when the Foot invade.
There used to be these paperback mini-books back in the early 1990's--about 5x7 in (I wanna say)--where I feel like I remember a few of those scenes made it in, particularly the sparring scene with Leonardo's mask flipped around. One of the books was basically just the entire barn/hideout sequences and the part with visions of Splinter appearing in the campfire etc etc, compressed down into a children's book.
I think the Mikey arch on the farm was interesting. He actually had no dialogue the entire time at the farm. He was also seen as pretty hardcore. He was kicking butt in their sparring sessions, seen hitting the punching bag and the rooftop scene when he called for Splinter (but with Raph's voice, which happened often in the 1980s cartoon). Another scene that got me was when Leo brought them out to the fire to meditate on Splinter, when Donny pulled out the marshmallows, Mikey nudged Donny to put them away and get serious.
I would absolutely love to see Steve Barron revisit this movie. Restoring old footage. Getting Robbie Rist to come in and record Mikey yelling "splinter!". An extended director's cut would be awesome.
TNMT 1990 is easily one of my top 5 greatest films of all time. I played this VHS tape until it popped, and convinced my parents to get me another one.
Learning more about the potential barn scene with Mikey really opened my eyes to how much he was really going through without splinter... especially after just reading the last Ronin....😭
Turtle screaming on the barn roof has nunchucks, it’s Mikey. Also. That scene with Donnie and Mikey at the beginning, waiting for the pizza dude. Donnie asks him, whats he think about Splinter telling them he’ll not being around someday. Mikey doesn’t even answer, he doesn’t want to answer or think about Splinter leaving them. Another deleted segment was April drawing Mikey, and talking about how dark he got, or how difficult it was for him. Really hope we get an extended cut someday.
Studios always make the same silly mistake. First film comes out which is serious and is a success, with both adults and kids. They decide to make a 'family friendlier' sequel and it always bombs. They do this with almost every franchise and just never learn
I’ve always been perplexed about why filmmakers have been afraid to fully flesh out and develop Michelangelo’s character. I know he’s the silly wise guy of the group but it’s often said that the funniest clowns carry the deepest pain. I wanna see a ninja turtles movie where Michelangelo and Donatello actually get some decent character development.
It also likely comes from executives. Mikey is consistently the kid-appeal character, and adding too much depth and character development makes it harder to justify him being the super goof that kiddies love.
It's been established that Michelangelo is a fan of the Rocky movies early in the film. It's very possible that the planned scene was intended to be based on Rocky's training montage in Rocky IV after losing Apollo Creed. The way he stands on top of the barn is very similar to how Rocky stands on the mountain.
@tyrone kinard you see wat they did to the first reboots. Either you gotta or you don't. Michael Bay know caught mad heat for making those Transformer movies, why in the fuck would anyone let him touch the Turtles. Man when I thought they were going to reboot it I was excited and then when the art for them came out, I was like, oh I see they don't give a F. I wish someone of these good studio's would jump in and talk the helm and try to buy them rights back from Nickelodeon. Bcus in my opinion, they messed it up and then and went and hooked up with Bay to do it. Then the backstory was totally bogus..smh. I showed my nephew's the old school one we grew up on and they liked it way better. One of nephew's asked why they look so different, and now they bleeding that stuff into the cartoons. All this talent out in Hollywood and they keep screwing up stuff. Is Disney the only one that knows what they are doing? And I'm not just talking about the MCU neither, they killing on their rebrand of old movies from their own vault..lmao. that's hats off to them like for real though. I just hope it's better this time around, if not please, please, please, sell them rights to a Studio that will kill with the whole Turtles Universe 😉
@ElTortugaAnime ElTortugaAnime no I'm saying I'm lying on not caring who gets the rights. I do care, bcus Bay messed them up and Nickelodeon. So yeah someone like them, yes bcus they would know what to do with them.
I just found you yesterday and I'm hooked! I'm 33 and the 1990 TMNT and 3 ninjas were the movies that started my love of ninja flicks. I love your channel and it's clear you have a passion for the turtles. Great content my friend thank you.
@@ninjaturtlemaster24 And they always have these scenes in the trailer too! Like "The Land Before Time", they edited out 10 minutes of 19 fully animated scenes so they could obtain a G rating instead of a PG rating. That kind of stuff should be released in a Director's Cut for sure.
I have ALWAYS noticed that Mikey never got a segment at the house when April was sketching them all. He was my favourite so it stuck out like a sore thumb, and I always liked to think that Mikey was secretly just as pent up as Raph, but he used humour to let the rage escape - something which Raph never mastered. An extended Director's cut Blu-Ray is at least 20 years overdue, and they should not only do it, but also cram in every detail, deleted scene, interview, and set photo that they can manage. I'm sure that if they started a kickstarter then it would get paid for, and then some.
Ya I heard he ends up destroying the barn and that Mikey is actually the most dangerous turtle and has the most rage. It's like they say it's usually the people who like to make people laugh are really sad and angry on the inside
In the movie that was released, in the sparring scene at the farm, Michelangelo was fighting better than the other turtles. Also, Michelangelo fought the longest against Shredder.. That was probably the result of the intense training scenes of Michelangelo that were deleted.
Yeah, when they showed Casey bring Splinter to the fight scene, you could hear Mikey gasping as he was fighting, Shredder dispatched Leo and Raph quickly. Donny did pretty well on the second wave of attacks and Leo actually got some good hits in on him.
What movie did you watch. When Casey and splinter are looking up at the roof you can hear Mickey's voice effects fighting longer but there is no proof. Leonardo is the only one who stood up to shredder. If you rewatch the movie you will see leo cut shredder on his shoulder.
Dude this is great content! Especially with the content about Michelangelo this just confirmed the scene in the movie with Donatello and Michelangelo were talking while waiting on the pizza. At first I thought he was just being his usual scattered brain self when Donatello asked Mikey about not having Splinter. But in actuality Mikey could not really handle that especially just being a teenager at a time of important development and growing pains, especially of being a “mutant teenager “ I thought that was GENIUS how he totally dodged the question in his party scatter brained personality! Now that you mentioned it was Michelangelo who was training in the barn and how he was screaming Splinter at the barn rooftop this just connects the dots on that scene I mentioned earlier. This was a treasure dude keep up with the great content, also let me know how I can donate to your channel.
Sovereign Renaissance I was gonna comment about the exact same connection regarding the scene you mentioned, but you pointed it out nicely! 👍🏼 Mikey’s training scenes and the conversation between him and Donnie in the beginning showcased a deeper side to Mikey when you connect the dots. They really missed something with deleting this connection. Still love this film, tho. And it’s nice knowing what should’ve been there. I always imagined Mikey feeling the weight of Splinter’s lost when I watched the brief moment it showed of him punching the bag in the barn when I was a kid anyway. So they should’ve just kept this in. It’s subtly implied, but having April mention it via drawings would’ve made it better.
Jason Rainwater RIGHT! Honestly there was scenes that definitely should have been left in. I always thought there were some things that could have been expanded upon especially for Mikey and that would have been excellent development for him and it would definitely make me look at Michelangelo in a new light. When he did this video of the lost scenes the director really missed a great opportunities that in my opinion would have made this movie even MORE legendary.
Sovereign Renaissance Yes! They really need to create a 30th anniversary Blu-ray for next year and add in or have extras with all this stuff. Mikey, I feel, has a much deeper character than just being a “party dude.” By nature he’s very playful, yet that’s what would make the mentioned scene so meaningful... to see the guy who’s always playful feeling the pain of his father’s loss, it would show how strongly these teen heroes are affected. Perhaps they decided it wasn’t necessary to go that deep with Mikey, but like you, I feel it would’ve made the movie even better 🙂
I want them to show the movie(s) in theaters again, like how they have done with other movies that has been out for years. A special dvd with all the extra stuff would be radical.
Fun fact, Raphael was the only turtle not voiced over in the film. Josh Pais did both the voice and was the guy in the costume. Plus he was the guy in the cab that said "what the heck was that?'
I've read there is a deleted scene where after he Turtles, April and Casey flee the city, Shredder scars members of the Foot for allowing this. This was cut for issues of violence. Also originally in the scene where Tatsu (I think that's how its spelt) beats the Foot members, the one he seriously injures was supposed to have died. But again the death was considered too violent and the scene was edited with added sounds of groaning to imply the guy was still alive.
I always assumed it was Raph because of the voice. It would have been a deeper film if they showed Mikey - the party dude, in a deep state of anger and depression. I think a few changes were made to this film when the popularity of the Turtles took off, becasue production started before the cartoon became really popular. I'm guessing they put in a few more kid friendly bits as sometimes the dark tone can clash with the more goofy bits. I suppose they didn't want kids to see the happy Turtle all angry.
Sir! One day I’d like to meet you just to shake your hand. You turn over every rock to find us any content on the big green machine. I always wonder even as a kid why they never talked about Mikey. I would’ve personally loved that Mikey took it the hardest that his master & brother are the break of death. I mean he’s known as the unpredictable turtle, and it makes since to have him be angry because he always happy. Thank you!
Most, if not all of the deleted scenes were not included for good reason, though I'd love for them to be included as extras in a comprehensive rerelease of the film. Most were not included simply because they just were not up to snuff, ruined the pacing of the film, or kind of took the film out of it's zone. The Shredder fight scene demonstration against him and FOOT ninja when he's first revealed not only looked a bit awkward, and unremarkable, it also would've killed the mystery surrounding SHREDDER and what he could do. Finally seeing just how superior he was as a fighter compared to the Turtles towards the end of the film was the right call.
Man...that mike scene in the barn should have been added. They could have showed a transition of him being party all the time Mike to Shit just got real Mike. Especially, with splinter being gone, not knowing if he is dead or not...yeah that scene would have been perfect.
Tmnt is one of the best comic movies ever made. Watching it back as an adult I was really impressed by it, and so happy they allowed a dark gritty version of the turtles.
This movie is one of those where it's always interesting to look into the history of it, so I would welcome a collector's edition/director's cut release in the future
I have nothing but the upmost RESPECT for EVERYONE involve in the production of the TMNT movie(s). These films were absolute badass when i was a kid and even today they are heaps of fun. The first two in particular had the perfect lighting and mood & overal tone. And my god, Judith Hoag & Paige Tuco were absolutely sweet as April O'Neil. And Elias Koteas as Casey Jones couldn't have been any better. This man absolutely NAILED the role. The live action Turtles were so well done and you can really feel the enthusiasm of everyone involved. And yes, i'd LOVE to see an extended (possibly even R-Rated) version of the 1990 movie. When the film came out i already saw and loved the animated TV series and loved that nod to the show when April wore that yellow rain-coat at the beginning.
I hear a rumor that there was a scene of Casey Jones in his apartment, listening to the news looking at his hockey mask before he takes to the streets. I don’t know how true it is but it sounds cool.
So it looks like the UK got a lot of stuff the US version didn't, mostly in the fight at April's apartment as I remember bits missing from the US version like Donatello saying ''Uh oh!'' followed by the floorboard creaking slightly longer before the floor caving in. The US got the scene with Michaelangelo and foot having a 'Nunchuck off' which for me is the main missing scene. There is also a couple bits from the farm (Wax on wax off) and in the final battle with the foot eg: A slightly longer shot of the turtles stepping out the sewers before Donnie and Mikey squash the foot with their shells. Also quite a few extra bits up on the roof fight. Michaelangelo vs Shredder. It always bugged me the UK version cut his fight sequence out because of the Nunchaku ban. And finally splinter and Shredder ''Death comes for us all, Oroku Saki....'' Hopefully one day we'll have an ultimate version with more deleted footage and outakes.
helicoptersrkool I think the DVD of the movie they re released around the time that the first Bay turtle movie was releasing had the cut scenes in place in the U.K
There should be a Kickstarter or an Indiegogo campaign to have an extended cut collector's edition made. Next year it will be the film's 30th anniversary, it's about time it deserves the deluxe treatment.
I've always assumed there had to be some deleted scene during that April sequence where she's talking about the turtles and how they're handling things. She talks about Don, then Leo, and then just abruptly cuts to "And then there's Casey Jones...." and never mentions Mikey. Even 9 year old me thought that something was off there. So yea, something definitely got cut out.
According to IMDb, the deleted scenes with Michelangelo would've shown him in a state of depression following their failure to find out Splinter's location. The scene where Mikey jokes about using Turtle Wax after working out and April and Casey react with relief would've been because of how depressed he'd been getting.
In the mirage comic it shows Mikey going hard with training, then he goes into a depressive state at the end. It would have been great to see. Wish we could get a hardcore show that followed mirage. Even if it started from the beginning it would be epic!
This movie is incredible. One of my favorite movies period, not just a turtle movie. What the real shame is, is not continuing this storyline. I know Secret of the Ooze took it in a logical direction but the Turtles already looked different and the tone of the movie was much lighter and sillier. I would've loved for the Turtles to have looked the same and had that same NY grit through all 3 films. TMNT 1990 is a classic, damn near masterpiece
Yeah I think its because it was a character arc that they explored with Mike that they either didn't have time to go into or that they figured just didn't fit in with anything else he was doing in the movie. I think it would have been cool because of how much more like the comics than the cartoon the movie was. In the comics Mikey DOES have a lot of emotional issues that the whole "party dude" attitude is ment to cover up, like its his defense/coping mechanism. And while the movie focuses on the relationship and dynamic between Leo and Raph(which IS very important and I wish its something that the cartoon had done) in the comics there actually exists a very strong relationship between Raph and Mikey. As the oldest besides Leo(who is the leader and has to take responsiblity for the whole team) Raph feels like it's his responsibility to take up for and watch out for Mikey who is the youngest. This is a constant point of contention between the two because Mikey feels coddled by it and at times feels like Raph is holding him back. Example: Raph volunteering to take on a task that would have otherwise went to Mikey because he felt it was "too dangerous" for him. Or Raph "taking it easy" on Mikey and forcing Leo and Donnie to do the same during training for fear of his younger siblings getting hurt. These things were also a constant source of irritation for Splinter, on the one hand, irritated that his older sons are coddling the younger(he IS trying to train killers) but on the other, knowing his younger son's limitations compared to his brothers.
Rewatching this movie with my kid, as an overanalytical adult, I totally agree with you about Michelangelo's emotional arc. It's a shame so much was cut, but I think it's exceptionally powerful to have a "party dude" suddenly withdraw and become traumatized by both his father missing and his brother in a coma. You see his avoidance of emotion earlier when Donatello asks about Splinter not being around forever, to which he changes the subject to the pizza delivery being on time. Great video!
There's also a scene I saw in the cinema, but never again. When the four turtles were training at the farm, Leo pulled down his bandana, covering his eyes and asked the other turtles to challenge him. hesitant at first, they eventually did, and Leo defeated them. I also had a story book that had that scene included. But for nothing could I find those scenes on VHS (back in the day), nor DVD
Seems the Mikey parts were all connected to his "parodying movie characters". Both were Rocky (the movie) related. The punching bag was a slab of meat (Rocky I) and the "SPLINTTTEERRR" yelling screen is from Rocky training and yelling "DRAAGOOOOO" (Rocky IV)
I remember the Shredder fight demonstration in the novel. It’s supposed to show how the Foot soldier earns that bandana that we see them getting from Shredder in the movie.
The comic adaptation for the film of Casey Jones and Raph's encounter in the alley, was actually in a Microseries of the original Mirage comics called "Raphael: Me, Myself, and I" which was Casey's official first appearance I believe, and the monologue with April sketching, including the cut bit with Michaelangelo training in the barn, was also in the comic (though I can't remember what issue). In fact the comic adaptation of the movie, which you exemplified, was basically word for word for both Raph's interaction with Casey and April's thoughts on the turtles. Only, initially in the comic she was writing in a journal as opposed to sketching.
Yea buddy...we know this. Thanks for being late to the party, and the issue your looking for is #11 from the OG series. That's why this movie was so damn great, it chose to adapt the comics cause the cartoon was just too damn wacky. I mean the comics were too, that's why they had to go with fighting shredder on the rooftop, the ending for tmnt #1, instead of properly adapting the original "Return to New York" arc from the comics. (the 03 cartoon had a great adaption BTW!) Okay Hollywood you ready for this? You ready to make billions? Ok, then heed my word. Just do what the cgi movie did and make the next turtles movie a direct sequel to the first film. Somehow find a way to properly adapt "Shredder's" return in "Return to New York", literally my favorite comic arc of all time! The artwork is truly unrivaled! Though I do admit it will be hard to feasibly integrate the Triceriton, Grod was it? Maybe just go balls out and do the turtles in space arc next! Save Return to NY for the next, next one.
@@jcbrunz9164 I know many do know, but I am just recently getting into them and thought this was cool to learn that they were trying to be more accurate than it already was. And yeah, the 03 series did a great job adapting the source, as well the 2012 series added in some missed elements like Leo's spending time in the woods after his defeat, as well as while not placed 100% right (appearing near the end of the series), a more accurate interpretation of where Leo was beaten during Shredder's return in the comic. To answer two things; first the Triceraton's name was, Zog, I believe; and yeah he would be hard to integrate, but to be honest if they use whatever techniques they used for the scaliness of the turtles in Bay Turtles, he could look cool along side some more classic turtle designs. Turtles in space would be cool to see in the classic movie chronology. I have taken a liking to Honeycutt as a character, and would love for him to make an appearance.
@@hobodefender3476 My bad brotha, keep up the good work. What you mean "more accurate than it already was"?Still haven't watched the 2012 series, but I will someday, heard it's really good. If your just getting into them, the new comic series by IDW is straight godly as of issue 50. IDW's Shredder is a fucking boss! The IDW series makes the buyout so worth it with the crap Laird was putting out in volume 4. Now if they would only drop Bay's dumbass.
@@jcbrunz9164 Really the iteration of preference is up to you. And I owe an apology, the encounter in 2012 is the season 2 finale (I got mixed up). The 2003 did a great job conveying a similar tone to the moment in the comic, while staying atop the roofs while Leo faced the Foot, Hun, and finally Shredder in order to maintain its own continuity and did so without harming the original image (Seriously what happened to that 4Kids!?). However, the 2012 series, despite being an amalgamation of the comics, 1987 series, '03, and even the 90s films (with character names referencing Tokka and Rahzar) took Leo through the city in the snow, and ended with Leo's battle with Shredder in a construction pit just like the comic, better matching the general setting; but not on Christmas and the inclusion of the Kraang. Honestly, I adore the 2012 series for all it is, but expect different chronology and character motivations before going in. I promise if you accept they were trying to stand out, then the moments that are familiar to you will make you giddy. And I am interested in IDW's run as I watched Batman Vs TMNT, and checked out the comic it was based on (not canon maybe, but still, I loved the turtles' portrayals and writing). I'm going to read the Mirage run first though, just because I like catching the origins of things ya know?
I think it would've been interesting seeing Michael training...his character mood changing would've drew more attention. Never seeing that side of him.
I have the two sketches of Raphael and Mikey and also Leo and Don. We will make a video with them. The Mikey one is similar to Donnie’s except a lot better. The Raphael one is just okay. They are all really good though and I’m trying to think of the best way to display them.
The 90s film series version of Michelangelo is my favorite. Every other version has him too comical, not showing he has depth, but this version shows it.
I'm not sure if someone already posted about this topic but I don't want to read all through the comments. You forgot to mention or if you didn't know another deleted scene in the film was on the farm where the turtles were training and Leonardo twists his bandana to the side so he couldn't see. I think he did this as a training example that the turtles don't have to see the enemy in order to fight them to which he had the turtles try to attack him. More as a focus on your surroundings kind of thing. I also noticed that Donatello is wearing some sort of straw hat in the scene as well. I know that they used a poster of the same image with him and the straw hat. I have a copy of the old comic book that is an adaptation from the film and it has that scene in it. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't since it was another scene that was deleted that wasn't brought up in your video. Thanks!
I think I still have one of those sticker albums somewhere. It's think it's almost complete too. At the time, I thought it was so weird that there were scenes in the sticker book that weren't in the movie. I also always really liked the illustration on the front cover, because it made the Turtles look so gritty and 'New Yorky'.
All of those scenes would have been awesome to be included in the movie. I would have really enjoyed the added depth to Michelangelo's character. The entire series of scenes at the farmhouse is so good - in my opinion the greatest stretch of cinematography I've ever seen. The way the light cuts through the trees and saturates the film is absolutely beautiful. You can feel the setting of the old farmhouse with its overgrown surroundings and creaky floorboards in every shot. The character bonding and tension throughout the farmhouse scenes is just crazy good.
Do you think the Snyder Cut of the Justice League will be like thus as well? 20- 30 years before he’s cut will see the light of day? Hopefully we can see this Ninja Turtle 🐢 movie 🎥 and the JL Snyder cut soon....
This is an amazing video. I seen the shredder seen before. But the rest that you had on your video it blowed my mind away. You should make a video of tmnt The 2nd one.
I have or had the original novelisation of the film somewhere (I believe it was written by Bonnie Bryant Hiller if you want to track it down), and in it they actually describe a number of these deleted scenes such as the ending (which I guess was supposed to be a mid or post credits scene) where April and Dan are pitching the TMNT idea to the comic publisher. There's also some photos in it of scenes that never made it into the final movie...the one that intrigued me the most was Raphael leaning on a fence wearing a straw hat with a strand of wheat in his mouth. The shot is obviously from the scene on the farm, but that particular shot isn't in the movie.
Apparently it's down to physical media being really popular in Germany, so there's a market for this. There's been a few films given extra treatment by German distributors (who are prepared to spend money on extra stuff, such as getting Steve Barron in to record a commentary). Also the Turtles have a significant following there.
I've seen this movie countless time and never once noticed it was Mikey on the barn roof. It honestly makes you wonder about him even more because look how hard he was going at that punching bag trying to get the anger and frustration out. As has been shown in recent years, the person who hurts the most is also the one who tries to make everyone laugh.
As cool as these scenes could have been, I'm glad they didn't extend the Casey and Raph fight beyond Raph losing him after slamming into a taxi. It just ends so delightfully with Raph's line "I'm not finished with you! DAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!" Totally would have ruined the scene if they went beyond that. It's a huge laugh for one thing, but it also adds to Raph's unfocused anger and frustration in his character arc.
That original Turtle poster with all 4 popping their heads out of the sewer lid is one of the greatest movie posters ever created! It has bugged me for years, why we never saw a Michelangelo sketch. I always figured it was cut...
I remember reading the novelization of the movie as a kid; they included the alternate ending with the publisher, which I always figured was just a scene that was made up by the author. It blew my mind a few years ago to see that it had actually been made!
This movie seemed dark for some reason as a Hero movie, it is a classic and love it..secret of the ooze was more lively and comedic, and the 3rd movie was..wait, there wasn't a 3rd movie in the 90's 😂🤣
When Raphael supposedly calls out for splinter....look at is back waist area on his shell.....I See London I See France I See Michaelangelos Nunchucks!! 8:00 . My father worked on all 3 of these original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies.
Someone pointed out to the deleted scenes with Mikey, in the fight training scene at the farm, we see the other three brothers all fighting against Mikey, and Mikey holding his own against all of them. This alludes heavily to the idea that Mikey was training harder than the others
I'm a 34 year old man and I still absolutely love this movie. I can break it down scene by scene in my head. So dude, this video was awesome. I've always wondered about the Mikey training scene where April is sketching the turtles. Even as a little kid, I'm like what the hell, no love for Mikey?? I would've absolutely shit myself if I saw the Shredder scene where he kicks everyone's ass sitting down. They did such an incredible job with the end fight scene that I've always wished it was 5 minutes longer with more focus on the turtles against Shredder, rather than Casey and the Foot. But so cool man and I love the channel. The 1990 OG will always be a top 5 movie for me
Judith Hoag (April) says that she doesn't like the movie because the producers cut too much of the "soul" out of the final film, and she talks about one particular "mystical through-line" scene that she says was cut but is very important to understanding part of the movie... so I came here wondering if that scene exists somewhere on RUclips. Still looking, unfortunately.
The reason this movie is so good is because it has the best dramatic stakes - at its heart, it's about a group of teenagers whose father is kidnapped/taken from them, and have to navigate a strange new world on the surface (and with the aid of humans) in order to find him. Hell, the Turtles don't get reunited with Splinter until the last 5 minutes, so you're essentially cheering for them the entire time to 'get Splinter back'. The Secret of the Ooze... well, they were simply trying to understand where they came from. And they find out. Oh, and now there's a mutated snapping turtle & wolf on the loose. Gotta stop em I guess. Or the silly Feudal Japan one. Dramatic stakes always beat budget and production value.
I find it interesting no one ever considers why some comicbook/game adaptions work and some do not. It is all about how true the movie is to it’s original source. The first Turtles movie worked and is so beloved because it is basically a complete adaption of the first graphic novel. If they were to have changed things it would have messed with the structure and the pace of the movie. Another example? Look at the recent Sonic movie, because they changed the design to fit the original source that movie did very well, despite the story being pretty far from the source material (the sequel should focus only on Sonic/Tails/Robotnik... we don’t need the humans). My point is, if Hollywood would stop thinking they know better than the original creators and fans, these movies would do a whole helluva allot better. No more changing the sex, race, name, origin, etc of a character, stick to the era that story came out... for example a new Turtle’s show/movie should take place in the 80’s. The more they stray from the original source, the more these movies will fail (just look at that live action Dragonball movie, it was a shitshow).
TMNT was my entire early childhood. More specifically the original 1987-1996 series along with the original 3 movies although not so much the third. It would be amazing to get an extended directors cuts with these deleted scenes all in tact.
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Wasn't the comic version of Ralph and Casey fight apart of the original Comic book. Because wasn't this in the micro comic Raphael. Because I know that it was Leonardo that the foot fought on the Roof of April's apartment and they threw him threw a window.
The old Turtles Den sometimes when they release a movie and they have a book that comes out based on the movie extra scenes that they could not put into the movie for whatever reason is added into the book that includes dialogue as well so that may be why they may have been a reason why it wasn't shot or add to movie so that might be various reasons if they release an anniversary edition I don't think any of this footage exist because it was added to the comic book version of the movie which I must be impressed I didn't know actually existed so what the other deleted scenes I suppose they could put back in but I do agree with you on that it would be nice to see the scenes that were actually shot at it back and release all three Ninja Turtle movies in a trilogy pack but let's not hold our breath this is the movie industry referring to they haven't had a original idea in how long I don't think I need to tell you but I do agree with you if they do need to do that but will it happen don't hold our breaths dreams are nice but that's all they are thank you again for adding some more insightful things and I didn't know there was an actual book based on the movie I can take a look into getting it good luck great material thank you again😂
THE OLD TURTLE DEN - by Tonight's Top Movie Moment The only thing that I didn’t like about the original is the way splinter learn karate it should’ve follow the comic to the tea
Man this was good stuff... one of my favorite movies all time
when again is the actual date of the 30th anniversary
Shredder demonstrating his fighting skill in that deleted scene when he fights the Foot Clan, would've been a great addition to this film.
Ironically not using his feet at all.
All these additional footage scenes, are in the novelization of the movie, that I got when I was 11, still got it too.
the shredder sews there failures on to there skin so they never forget, it was supposedly removed for being to violent, shame really set the tone of how bad as he is and really amps up the roof top confrontation!
Sure, but we didn't need to see what Shredder can do because we already knew what he could do, so waiting until the end was worth the wait.
Nah I think it's better without
Im 36..the turtles were the best part of my childhood.
The scene where Shredder fights the thugs while sitting is actually him punishing the thugs who failed to mug April in the alley. It's in the comic and novelization of the movie.
legionaireb would have loved seeing that
Yes. The novel is more brutal. When Tatsu attacks the foot for failing to kill the Turtles, he kills on of the the foot soldiers after Shredder glares at him for letting the turtles escape. It was originally shot that the guy gets killed but was later redubbed saying that the guy will be ok.
It was in it the premier night here where I live but when I went to see it again a few days later it had been cut out
That's why I love comic and novel adaptations! They have all the parts that always seem to have been made for the film but we're edit out for various reasons.
Don't forget shinsho's death, tatsu was originally supposed to kill shinsho in the locker room like in the original script for the film but it was cut due to the scene being too dark and sad so it got changed up to him being critically injured from the attack.
how am I JUST NOW Finding this AMAZING TMNT Channel GREAT VIDEO DUDE!
Fr this man is teenage awesomeness
ditto... but a year after you found it.
That scene with Shredder sitting down defending himself is badass
I remember seeing those shells rising from the water when I was 5 and being shocked that I didn't see it in the actual film. My parents even took me back to the theaters to see the movie again, in case I somehow missed it.
Now, 30 years later, I'm getting closure.
There was also a bunch of cut scenes on the farm.
- One had the gang doing a sparring match where Leo turned his mask around to fight the others. Donny wears a straw hat in the scene.
- Lots and lots of April and Casey ship tease, including Casey trying and failing to fix the truck door and April showing Casey her drawings of the Turtles.
- More scenes of Mikey being angsty, which led into the Turtle Wax scene and told April and Casey that Mikey was back to normal.
- A training scene where the Turtles played Hot Potato using an apple. This is why Raphael has an apple at the start of the final act when the Foot invade.
Gflipnitz Blruiken wow 🤩 thanks so much for this 😊.
Hopefully they release ALL these scenes on DVD!
There used to be these paperback mini-books back in the early 1990's--about 5x7 in (I wanna say)--where I feel like I remember a few of those scenes made it in, particularly the sparring scene with Leonardo's mask flipped around. One of the books was basically just the entire barn/hideout sequences and the part with visions of Splinter appearing in the campfire etc etc, compressed down into a children's book.
The turned mask and Donnie wearing a cowboy hat is in the movie, it starts with Leo briefly, then focuses on Mikey with his mask turned.
I think the Mikey arch on the farm was interesting. He actually had no dialogue the entire time at the farm. He was also seen as pretty hardcore. He was kicking butt in their sparring sessions, seen hitting the punching bag and the rooftop scene when he called for Splinter (but with Raph's voice, which happened often in the 1980s cartoon). Another scene that got me was when Leo brought them out to the fire to meditate on Splinter, when Donny pulled out the marshmallows, Mikey nudged Donny to put them away and get serious.
I would absolutely love to see Steve Barron revisit this movie. Restoring old footage.
Getting Robbie Rist to come in and record Mikey yelling "splinter!".
An extended director's cut would be awesome.
Aaron Nicewonger, a Ridley Scott Blade Runner-esque odyssey.
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They more than likely have the original "Splinter" scream from Mikey on tape somewhere, so I doubt they would need to bring him back.
would love a director'scut
I think he unfortunately was fired during post production
@@tristanmohr112 oh no. I didn't know that.
TNMT 1990 is easily one of my top 5 greatest films of all time. I played this VHS tape until it popped, and convinced my parents to get me another one.
My siblings & I used to watch it just about everyday as kids. We had the whole movie memorized & we would recite the lines.
VHS tapes pop? I've never seen that happen
Man, I just love the amount of research that you do for these videos.
Learning more about the potential barn scene with Mikey really opened my eyes to how much he was really going through without splinter... especially after just reading the last Ronin....😭
I’m thinking it was Ralph since he was the one who took it real hard with Splinter’s abduction
Turtle screaming on the barn roof has nunchucks, it’s Mikey.
Also.
That scene with Donnie and Mikey at the beginning, waiting for the pizza dude. Donnie asks him, whats he think about Splinter telling them he’ll not being around someday. Mikey doesn’t even answer, he doesn’t want to answer or think about Splinter leaving them.
Another deleted segment was April drawing Mikey, and talking about how dark he got, or how difficult it was for him.
Really hope we get an extended cut someday.
I'm sure it's a great story regardless of the spoiler
A 30th-anniversary version would be great with some commentary.
Yes!!
Love this movie, they never quite got it right since this one. Hopefully the upcoming movie reboot captures the magic again.
I will probably watch the film reboot.
Studios always make the same silly mistake. First film comes out which is serious and is a success, with both adults and kids. They decide to make a 'family friendlier' sequel and it always bombs.
They do this with almost every franchise and just never learn
The 'Batman vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' animated movie that's out now is pretty fun imo.
But yeah, nothing beats the original movie.
Probably won’t. The 1990s was a magical decade.
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Lethal Weapon 2
Rush Hour 2
Turtles 2. ???
I’ve always been perplexed about why filmmakers have been afraid to fully flesh out and develop Michelangelo’s character. I know he’s the silly wise guy of the group but it’s often said that the funniest clowns carry the deepest pain. I wanna see a ninja turtles movie where Michelangelo and Donatello actually get some decent character development.
Facts
If/When you think about it, development per se or not, Donatello had his moments in Part 2 and Michelangelo had his in Part 3.
@@Sal_Sal27 Definitely, but we don't really speak of that third movie
It also likely comes from executives. Mikey is consistently the kid-appeal character, and adding too much depth and character development makes it harder to justify him being the super goof that kiddies love.
Some Random Guy Exactly. Somebody’s gotta be the mascot that represents on the anti-drug, after school special with Slimer.
It's been established that Michelangelo is a fan of the Rocky movies early in the film. It's very possible that the planned scene was intended to be based on Rocky's training montage in Rocky IV after losing Apollo Creed. The way he stands on top of the barn is very similar to how Rocky stands on the mountain.
Instead of the TMNT reboot, can we the extended cut of this movie instead
@tyrone kinard you see wat they did to the first reboots. Either you gotta or you don't. Michael Bay know caught mad heat for making those Transformer movies, why in the fuck would anyone let him touch the Turtles. Man when I thought they were going to reboot it I was excited and then when the art for them came out, I was like, oh I see they don't give a F. I wish someone of these good studio's would jump in and talk the helm and try to buy them rights back from Nickelodeon. Bcus in my opinion, they messed it up and then and went and hooked up with Bay to do it. Then the backstory was totally bogus..smh. I showed my nephew's the old school one we grew up on and they liked it way better. One of nephew's asked why they look so different, and now they bleeding that stuff into the cartoons. All this talent out in Hollywood and they keep screwing up stuff. Is Disney the only one that knows what they are doing? And I'm not just talking about the MCU neither, they killing on their rebrand of old movies from their own vault..lmao. that's hats off to them like for real though. I just hope it's better this time around, if not please, please, please, sell them rights to a Studio that will kill with the whole Turtles Universe 😉
@ElTortugaAnime ElTortugaAnime idc who it is. Well that's a lie, I do care lol, but yes someone with some good talent.
@ElTortugaAnime ElTortugaAnime no I'm saying I'm lying on not caring who gets the rights. I do care, bcus Bay messed them up and Nickelodeon. So yeah someone like them, yes bcus they would know what to do with them.
@@midwestkrazy83turner50 the first transformers movie was good. The other ones suck
I just found you yesterday and I'm hooked! I'm 33 and the 1990 TMNT and 3 ninjas were the movies that started my love of ninja flicks. I love your channel and it's clear you have a passion for the turtles. Great content my friend thank you.
Hey we're the same age
I hear you. I'm 32 and am currently binge watching all of the TMNT movies for the past month.
@@Ronniholt25 I thought you said you were 33
Hmm...I wonder how a TMNT/3 Ninjas crossover would work. Imagine those 3 kids finding out our favorite Fearsome Four exist?
@@crystalchampion9617 George Earl Franklin said he's 33. I'm only 32.
Why are there soo many great scenes cut no one has ever seen release them this is 1 of my favorite movies lol
For some strange reason movies always have deleted scenes that should never have been deleted. This and Terminator are among them lol
@@ninjaturtlemaster24 And they always have these scenes in the trailer too! Like "The Land Before Time", they edited out 10 minutes of 19 fully animated scenes so they could obtain a G rating instead of a PG rating. That kind of stuff should be released in a Director's Cut for sure.
IKR!! Why in hell do I have to look for a German Amazon.com to get the Blu-ray?!🤨👨🏾💻🙎🏾♂️📼
Salvadore Stern They should have an extended edition with all the deleted scenes for this movie. That would be amazing.
Leo's deleted ninja moves was cool.ive never saw it before.
I have ALWAYS noticed that Mikey never got a segment at the house when April was sketching them all. He was my favourite so it stuck out like a sore thumb, and I always liked to think that Mikey was secretly just as pent up as Raph, but he used humour to let the rage escape - something which Raph never mastered. An extended Director's cut Blu-Ray is at least 20 years overdue, and they should not only do it, but also cram in every detail, deleted scene, interview, and set photo that they can manage. I'm sure that if they started a kickstarter then it would get paid for, and then some.
Ya I heard he ends up destroying the barn and that Mikey is actually the most dangerous turtle and has the most rage. It's like they say it's usually the people who like to make people laugh are really sad and angry on the inside
It was just yesterday that my coworker and I was talking about how this version of the Turtles was better than the one made in 2014.
I didn't know that was even a discussion
That Scene With Mikey Is Pissed And Angry In The Barn Should’ve Never Been Cut Out He Is Angry And Take Out Is Fustration By Destroying Things
In the movie that was released, in the sparring scene at the farm, Michelangelo was fighting better than the other turtles. Also, Michelangelo fought the longest against Shredder.. That was probably the result of the intense training scenes of Michelangelo that were deleted.
AF Twice Mikey went hard in the original comic during their time at the farm. The mirage years were the best in my opinion.
Also it was Mikey nunchuck that defeated the shredder via splinter.
No matter how Michelangelo is portrayed (especially in the 2012 TMNT cartoon series), he will always be my favorite Ninja Turtle character. :D
Yeah, when they showed Casey bring Splinter to the fight scene, you could hear Mikey gasping as he was fighting, Shredder dispatched Leo and Raph quickly. Donny did pretty well on the second wave of attacks and Leo actually got some good hits in on him.
What movie did you watch. When Casey and splinter are looking up at the roof you can hear Mickey's voice effects fighting longer but there is no proof. Leonardo is the only one who stood up to shredder. If you rewatch the movie you will see leo cut shredder on his shoulder.
Dude this is great content! Especially with the content about Michelangelo this just confirmed the scene in the movie with Donatello and Michelangelo were talking while waiting on the pizza. At first I thought he was just being his usual scattered brain self when Donatello asked Mikey about not having Splinter. But in actuality Mikey could not really handle that especially just being a teenager at a time of important development and growing pains, especially of being a “mutant teenager “ I thought that was GENIUS how he totally dodged the question in his party scatter brained personality! Now that you mentioned it was Michelangelo who was training in the barn and how he was screaming Splinter at the barn rooftop this just connects the dots on that scene I mentioned earlier. This was a treasure dude keep up with the great content, also let me know how I can donate to your channel.
Sovereign Renaissance I was gonna comment about the exact same connection regarding the scene you mentioned, but you pointed it out nicely! 👍🏼 Mikey’s training scenes and the conversation between him and Donnie in the beginning showcased a deeper side to Mikey when you connect the dots. They really missed something with deleting this connection. Still love this film, tho. And it’s nice knowing what should’ve been there. I always imagined Mikey feeling the weight of Splinter’s lost when I watched the brief moment it showed of him punching the bag in the barn when I was a kid anyway. So they should’ve just kept this in. It’s subtly implied, but having April mention it via drawings would’ve made it better.
Jason Rainwater RIGHT! Honestly there was scenes that definitely should have been left in. I always thought there were some things that could have been expanded upon especially for Mikey and that would have been excellent development for him and it would definitely make me look at Michelangelo in a new light. When he did this video of the lost scenes the director really missed a great opportunities that in my opinion would have made this movie even MORE legendary.
Sovereign Renaissance Yes! They really need to create a 30th anniversary Blu-ray for next year and add in or have extras with all this stuff.
Mikey, I feel, has a much deeper character than just being a “party dude.” By nature he’s very playful, yet that’s what would make the mentioned scene so meaningful... to see the guy who’s always playful feeling the pain of his father’s loss, it would show how strongly these teen heroes are affected.
Perhaps they decided it wasn’t necessary to go that deep with Mikey, but like you, I feel it would’ve made the movie even better 🙂
Sovereign Renaissance that was Ralph screaming
That sounds more like Raphael on top of the barn.
I want them to show the movie(s) in theaters again, like how they have done with other movies that has been out for years. A special dvd with all the extra stuff would be radical.
Film festival!!!
That would be nice. I saw Batman 89 in the theater for 30th anniversary this year and The Matrix for 20th Anniversary since it came out in 99.
Bosa Nova!
Fun fact, Raphael was the only turtle not voiced over in the film. Josh Pais did both the voice and was the guy in the costume. Plus he was the guy in the cab that said "what the heck was that?'
I've read there is a deleted scene where after he Turtles, April and Casey flee the city, Shredder scars members of the Foot for allowing this. This was cut for issues of violence. Also originally in the scene where Tatsu (I think that's how its spelt) beats the Foot members, the one he seriously injures was supposed to have died. But again the death was considered too violent and the scene was edited with added sounds of groaning to imply the guy was still alive.
5:28 - It says "Now who's the champ, pal?"
Just weird you said something different.
Man, I never noticed that was Mikey on the roof of the barn until just now. Crazy.
I always assumed it was Raph because of the voice. It would have been a deeper film if they showed Mikey - the party dude, in a deep state of anger and depression. I think a few changes were made to this film when the popularity of the Turtles took off, becasue production started before the cartoon became really popular. I'm guessing they put in a few more kid friendly bits as sometimes the dark tone can clash with the more goofy bits. I suppose they didn't want kids to see the happy Turtle all angry.
me too. i just spotted his nunchucks
Right? It blows me away having seen this movie more times than I could possibly count
Shell yeah I want that extra contened on a DVD of the movie
Wolf Shadow shell yeah! I’d wear that shirt
Sir! One day I’d like to meet you just to shake your hand. You turn over every rock to find us any content on the big green machine. I always wonder even as a kid why they never talked about Mikey. I would’ve personally loved that Mikey took it the hardest that his master & brother are the break of death. I mean he’s known as the unpredictable turtle, and it makes since to have him be angry because he always happy. Thank you!
Videos like this are why im Subscribed to the Old Turtle Den 🐢
Most, if not all of the deleted scenes were not included for good reason, though I'd love for them to be included as extras in a comprehensive rerelease of the film. Most were not included simply because they just were not up to snuff, ruined the pacing of the film, or kind of took the film out of it's zone. The Shredder fight scene demonstration against him and FOOT ninja when he's first revealed not only looked a bit awkward, and unremarkable, it also would've killed the mystery surrounding SHREDDER and what he could do. Finally seeing just how superior he was as a fighter compared to the Turtles towards the end of the film was the right call.
TMNT needs a Directors Cut with all of the cut footage if it is available
Man...that mike scene in the barn should have been added. They could have showed a transition of him being party all the time Mike to Shit just got real Mike. Especially, with splinter being gone, not knowing if he is dead or not...yeah that scene would have been perfect.
Tmnt is one of the best comic movies ever made. Watching it back as an adult I was really impressed by it, and so happy they allowed a dark gritty version of the turtles.
A special edition with loads of extras and deleted scenes, possibly an uncut version, would be something up Shout Factory's alley.
There's a novelization that includes a lot of the deleted scenes
This movie is one of those where it's always interesting to look into the history of it, so I would welcome a collector's edition/director's cut release in the future
I have nothing but the upmost RESPECT for EVERYONE involve in the production of the TMNT movie(s). These films were absolute badass when i was a kid and even today they are heaps of fun. The first two in particular had the perfect lighting and mood & overal tone. And my god, Judith Hoag & Paige Tuco were absolutely sweet as April O'Neil. And Elias Koteas as Casey Jones couldn't have been any better. This man absolutely NAILED the role. The live action Turtles were so well done and you can really feel the enthusiasm of everyone involved. And yes, i'd LOVE to see an extended (possibly even R-Rated) version of the 1990 movie. When the film came out i already saw and loved the animated TV series and loved that nod to the show when April wore that yellow rain-coat at the beginning.
I hear a rumor that there was a scene of Casey Jones in his apartment, listening to the news looking at his hockey mask before he takes to the streets. I don’t know how true it is but it sounds cool.
So it looks like the UK got a lot of stuff the US version didn't, mostly in the fight at April's apartment as I remember bits missing from the US version like Donatello saying ''Uh oh!'' followed by the floorboard creaking slightly longer before the floor caving in. The US got the scene with Michaelangelo and foot having a 'Nunchuck off' which for me is the main missing scene. There is also a couple bits from the farm (Wax on wax off) and in the final battle with the foot eg: A slightly longer shot of the turtles stepping out the sewers before Donnie and Mikey squash the foot with their shells. Also quite a few extra bits up on the roof fight. Michaelangelo vs Shredder. It always bugged me the UK version cut his fight sequence out because of the Nunchaku ban. And finally splinter and Shredder ''Death comes for us all, Oroku Saki....'' Hopefully one day we'll have an ultimate version with more deleted footage and outakes.
helicoptersrkool I think the DVD of the movie they re released around the time that the first Bay turtle movie was releasing had the cut scenes in place in the U.K
I remember sky movies showed the uncut edition with the chucks, I was freaking out as a kid.
I love how they did the opening scenes. Hearing instead of seeing them gave it the more stealthy vibe which Splinter always preaches.
I feel we deserve that longer version.
There should be a Kickstarter or an Indiegogo campaign to have an extended cut collector's edition made. Next year it will be the film's 30th anniversary, it's about time it deserves the deluxe treatment.
Those things aren't needed.
I've always assumed there had to be some deleted scene during that April sequence where she's talking about the turtles and how they're handling things. She talks about Don, then Leo, and then just abruptly cuts to "And then there's Casey Jones...." and never mentions Mikey.
Even 9 year old me thought that something was off there. So yea, something definitely got cut out.
According to IMDb, the deleted scenes with Michelangelo would've shown him in a state of depression following their failure to find out Splinter's location. The scene where Mikey jokes about using Turtle Wax after working out and April and Casey react with relief would've been because of how depressed he'd been getting.
In the mirage comic it shows Mikey going hard with training, then he goes into a depressive state at the end. It would have been great to see. Wish we could get a hardcore show that followed mirage. Even if it started from the beginning it would be epic!
Casey Jones alley
fight makes a lot more sense of him helping Raph out at Aprils. I hope they put a release out with all the xtra crap in it.
I’d love to see the extended version. I love the Turtles
The Michelangelo farm scenes is the biggest loss and shame to the film. I think those are essential to the film and his character arc.
This movie is incredible. One of my favorite movies period, not just a turtle movie. What the real shame is, is not continuing this storyline. I know Secret of the Ooze took it in a logical direction but the Turtles already looked different and the tone of the movie was much lighter and sillier. I would've loved for the Turtles to have looked the same and had that same NY grit through all 3 films. TMNT 1990 is a classic, damn near masterpiece
Yeah I think its because it was a character arc that they explored with Mike that they either didn't have time to go into or that they figured just didn't fit in with anything else he was doing in the movie. I think it would have been cool because of how much more like the comics than the cartoon the movie was. In the comics Mikey DOES have a lot of emotional issues that the whole "party dude" attitude is ment to cover up, like its his defense/coping mechanism. And while the movie focuses on the relationship and dynamic between Leo and Raph(which IS very important and I wish its something that the cartoon had done) in the comics there actually exists a very strong relationship between Raph and Mikey. As the oldest besides Leo(who is the leader and has to take responsiblity for the whole team) Raph feels like it's his responsibility to take up for and watch out for Mikey who is the youngest. This is a constant point of contention between the two because Mikey feels coddled by it and at times feels like Raph is holding him back. Example: Raph volunteering to take on a task that would have otherwise went to Mikey because he felt it was "too dangerous" for him. Or Raph "taking it easy" on Mikey and forcing Leo and Donnie to do the same during training for fear of his younger siblings getting hurt. These things were also a constant source of irritation for Splinter, on the one hand, irritated that his older sons are coddling the younger(he IS trying to train killers) but on the other, knowing his younger son's limitations compared to his brothers.
I love your comment! Agreed 100
Rewatching this movie with my kid, as an overanalytical adult, I totally agree with you about Michelangelo's emotional arc. It's a shame so much was cut, but I think it's exceptionally powerful to have a "party dude" suddenly withdraw and become traumatized by both his father missing and his brother in a coma. You see his avoidance of emotion earlier when Donatello asks about Splinter not being around forever, to which he changes the subject to the pizza delivery being on time.
Great video!
There's also a scene I saw in the cinema, but never again. When the four turtles were training at the farm, Leo pulled down his bandana, covering his eyes and asked the other turtles to challenge him. hesitant at first, they eventually did, and Leo defeated them. I also had a story book that had that scene included. But for nothing could I find those scenes on VHS (back in the day), nor DVD
a 30th Anniversary **Extended Cut*** with All the Missing scenes Restore in there Right Places would Be GREAT*
4k version also?
Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Shut up and take my money!!!
Seems the Mikey parts were all connected to his "parodying movie characters". Both were Rocky (the movie) related. The punching bag was a slab of meat (Rocky I) and the "SPLINTTTEERRR" yelling screen is from Rocky training and yelling "DRAAGOOOOO" (Rocky IV)
Maybe, the most underrated film of all time
It's time for a fan to cut this all together if we don't get it officially next year.
You're my favorite Turtle channel. Vids like these make me want to scream, *COWABUNGA!!!*
Lol far as I’m concerned it’s the only turtle channel 👍
GIVE US THE 30th ANNIVERSARY BLU-RAY WITH EVERYTHING!!!!!
I remember the Shredder fight demonstration in the novel. It’s supposed to show how the Foot soldier earns that bandana that we see them getting from Shredder in the movie.
In the deleted scene tatsu puts the foot mask on shredders shoulder and they are supposed to grab it within the fight to earn a spot
Also the kid who earned the bandanna was the same kid that Tatsu beats the crap out of later. In the junior novelization it says he's dead.
The comic adaptation for the film of Casey Jones and Raph's encounter in the alley, was actually in a Microseries of the original Mirage comics called "Raphael: Me, Myself, and I" which was Casey's official first appearance I believe, and the monologue with April sketching, including the cut bit with Michaelangelo training in the barn, was also in the comic (though I can't remember what issue). In fact the comic adaptation of the movie, which you exemplified, was basically word for word for both Raph's interaction with Casey and April's thoughts on the turtles. Only, initially in the comic she was writing in a journal as opposed to sketching.
Yea buddy...we know this. Thanks for being late to the party, and the issue your looking for is #11 from the OG series. That's why this movie was so damn great, it chose to adapt the comics cause the cartoon was just too damn wacky. I mean the comics were too, that's why they had to go with fighting shredder on the rooftop, the ending for tmnt #1, instead of properly adapting the original "Return to New York" arc from the comics. (the 03 cartoon had a great adaption BTW!)
Okay Hollywood you ready for this? You ready to make billions? Ok, then heed my word. Just do what the cgi movie did and make the next turtles movie a direct sequel to the first film. Somehow find a way to properly adapt "Shredder's" return in "Return to New York", literally my favorite comic arc of all time! The artwork is truly unrivaled! Though I do admit it will be hard to feasibly integrate the Triceriton, Grod was it? Maybe just go balls out and do the turtles in space arc next! Save Return to NY for the next, next one.
@@jcbrunz9164 I know many do know, but I am just recently getting into them and thought this was cool to learn that they were trying to be more accurate than it already was.
And yeah, the 03 series did a great job adapting the source, as well the 2012 series added in some missed elements like Leo's spending time in the woods after his defeat, as well as while not placed 100% right (appearing near the end of the series), a more accurate interpretation of where Leo was beaten during Shredder's return in the comic. To answer two things; first the Triceraton's name was, Zog, I believe; and yeah he would be hard to integrate, but to be honest if they use whatever techniques they used for the scaliness of the turtles in Bay Turtles, he could look cool along side some more classic turtle designs. Turtles in space would be cool to see in the classic movie chronology. I have taken a liking to Honeycutt as a character, and would love for him to make an appearance.
@@hobodefender3476 My bad brotha, keep up the good work. What you mean "more accurate than it already was"?Still haven't watched the 2012 series, but I will someday, heard it's really good. If your just getting into them, the new comic series by IDW is straight godly as of issue 50. IDW's Shredder is a fucking boss! The IDW series makes the buyout so worth it with the crap Laird was putting out in volume 4. Now if they would only drop Bay's dumbass.
@tyrone kinard Don't get ahead of yourself their bud. But yeah the original mirage series is a cinematic goldmine.
@@jcbrunz9164 Really the iteration of preference is up to you. And I owe an apology, the encounter in 2012 is the season 2 finale (I got mixed up). The 2003 did a great job conveying a similar tone to the moment in the comic, while staying atop the roofs while Leo faced the Foot, Hun, and finally Shredder in order to maintain its own continuity and did so without harming the original image (Seriously what happened to that 4Kids!?).
However, the 2012 series, despite being an amalgamation of the comics, 1987 series, '03, and even the 90s films (with character names referencing Tokka and Rahzar) took Leo through the city in the snow, and ended with Leo's battle with Shredder in a construction pit just like the comic, better matching the general setting; but not on Christmas and the inclusion of the Kraang. Honestly, I adore the 2012 series for all it is, but expect different chronology and character motivations before going in. I promise if you accept they were trying to stand out, then the moments that are familiar to you will make you giddy.
And I am interested in IDW's run as I watched Batman Vs TMNT, and checked out the comic it was based on (not canon maybe, but still, I loved the turtles' portrayals and writing). I'm going to read the Mirage run first though, just because I like catching the origins of things ya know?
I think it would've been interesting seeing Michael training...his character mood changing would've drew more attention. Never seeing that side of him.
I have the two sketches of Raphael and Mikey and also Leo and Don. We will make a video with them. The Mikey one is similar to Donnie’s except a lot better. The Raphael one is just okay. They are all really good though and I’m trying to think of the best way to display them.
Maybe use a picture frame or a poster frame or maybe on your wall
The 90s film series version of Michelangelo is my favorite. Every other version has him too comical, not showing he has depth, but this version shows it.
I'm with you 100 percent
I'm a Mikey for life... goofball with anger issues.
Cowabunga dude, I freakin' love your channel!
I'm not sure if someone already posted about this topic but I don't want to read all through the comments. You forgot to mention or if you didn't know another deleted scene in the film was on the farm where the turtles were training and Leonardo twists his bandana to the side so he couldn't see. I think he did this as a training example that the turtles don't have to see the enemy in order to fight them to which he had the turtles try to attack him. More as a focus on your surroundings kind of thing. I also noticed that Donatello is wearing some sort of straw hat in the scene as well. I know that they used a poster of the same image with him and the straw hat. I have a copy of the old comic book that is an adaptation from the film and it has that scene in it. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't since it was another scene that was deleted that wasn't brought up in your video. Thanks!
Lol. Damn dude. What a comment. Talk about a hardcore fan.
You forgot to mention the deleted scene where Mikey gets a blowjob from April. You can find it on youporn. 😂
5:14 OMG!!! I had that Sticker Book, dude! My Mom bought it for me when the movie came out.
I think I still have one of those sticker albums somewhere. It's think it's almost complete too. At the time, I thought it was so weird that there were scenes in the sticker book that weren't in the movie. I also always really liked the illustration on the front cover, because it made the Turtles look so gritty and 'New Yorky'.
Me too!!!
I still have the sticker book amongst my most prized possessions.
The classic TMNT movie with extra scenes!? Yes please!!!
All of those scenes would have been awesome to be included in the movie. I would have really enjoyed the added depth to Michelangelo's character. The entire series of scenes at the farmhouse is so good - in my opinion the greatest stretch of cinematography I've ever seen. The way the light cuts through the trees and saturates the film is absolutely beautiful. You can feel the setting of the old farmhouse with its overgrown surroundings and creaky floorboards in every shot. The character bonding and tension throughout the farmhouse scenes is just crazy good.
34 YRS LATER, STILL THE BEST FILM!!!!!!
I can’t believe I found this page this and T2 are my favorite movies of all time and this Shredder is by far my favorite villain EVER!
Do you think the Snyder Cut of the Justice League will be like thus as well? 20- 30 years before he’s cut will see the light of day? Hopefully we can see this Ninja Turtle 🐢 movie 🎥 and the JL Snyder cut soon....
This is an amazing video. I seen the shredder seen before. But the rest that you had on your video it blowed my mind away. You should make a video of tmnt The 2nd one.
I have or had the original novelisation of the film somewhere (I believe it was written by Bonnie Bryant Hiller if you want to track it down), and in it they actually describe a number of these deleted scenes such as the ending (which I guess was supposed to be a mid or post credits scene) where April and Dan are pitching the TMNT idea to the comic publisher. There's also some photos in it of scenes that never made it into the final movie...the one that intrigued me the most was Raphael leaning on a fence wearing a straw hat with a strand of wheat in his mouth. The shot is obviously from the scene on the farm, but that particular shot isn't in the movie.
Mind blown! How come Germany gets the ultra special edition Blu-ray?? That's just not fair 😑 Nice vid bro 👍
Apparently it's down to physical media being really popular in Germany, so there's a market for this. There's been a few films given extra treatment by German distributors (who are prepared to spend money on extra stuff, such as getting Steve Barron in to record a commentary). Also the Turtles have a significant following there.
@@davidjames579 guess I'm goin to Germany to do some movie shopping lol
I've seen this movie countless time and never once noticed it was Mikey on the barn roof. It honestly makes you wonder about him even more because look how hard he was going at that punching bag trying to get the anger and frustration out. As has been shown in recent years, the person who hurts the most is also the one who tries to make everyone laugh.
As cool as these scenes could have been, I'm glad they didn't extend the Casey and Raph fight beyond Raph losing him after slamming into a taxi. It just ends so delightfully with Raph's line "I'm not finished with you! DAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!" Totally would have ruined the scene if they went beyond that. It's a huge laugh for one thing, but it also adds to Raph's unfocused anger and frustration in his character arc.
That original Turtle poster with all 4 popping their heads out of the sewer lid is one of the greatest movie posters ever created!
It has bugged me for years, why we never saw a Michelangelo sketch. I always figured it was cut...
I had that poster back when I was a kid,man the nostalgia
Brooks Williams me too. 👍 Ah, the good days. 😁
I remember reading the novelization of the movie as a kid; they included the alternate ending with the publisher, which I always figured was just a scene that was made up by the author. It blew my mind a few years ago to see that it had actually been made!
This movie seemed dark for some reason as a Hero movie, it is a classic and love it..secret of the ooze was more lively and comedic, and the 3rd movie was..wait, there wasn't a 3rd movie in the 90's 😂🤣
The Michelangelo part makes sense because that was how it was in the original Mirage comics story.
yes, since he was always joking and taking training less serious, once he lost splinter would over compensate
1:56 $7,000,000 in 1990 would be the equivalent of $13,698,912.66 in today’s money.
We need a new movie the right way, the comic book way
And the turtles not being animated but suits and animatronics again.
Yeeeessssssss!!!
We all know why April, liked all the turtles.
Dylan Rupp 👀
Sorry I knew all this don't need you to tell me what's what when it come's to TMNT!!!
When Raphael supposedly calls out for splinter....look at is back waist area on his shell.....I See London I See France I See Michaelangelos Nunchucks!! 8:00 . My father worked on all 3 of these original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies.
Someone pointed out to the deleted scenes with Mikey, in the fight training scene at the farm, we see the other three brothers all fighting against Mikey, and Mikey holding his own against all of them. This alludes heavily to the idea that Mikey was training harder than the others
This is what I would love to see in the new movie! Look how realistic the turtles look 👀
Hold up, the comic adaptation of the movie? That was the original graphic novel...🤦🏻♂️
I'm a 34 year old man and I still absolutely love this movie. I can break it down scene by scene in my head. So dude, this video was awesome.
I've always wondered about the Mikey training scene where April is sketching the turtles. Even as a little kid, I'm like what the hell, no love for Mikey??
I would've absolutely shit myself if I saw the Shredder scene where he kicks everyone's ass sitting down. They did such an incredible job with the end fight scene that I've always wished it was 5 minutes longer with more focus on the turtles against Shredder, rather than Casey and the Foot.
But so cool man and I love the channel. The 1990 OG will always be a top 5 movie for me
Judith Hoag (April) says that she doesn't like the movie because the producers cut too much of the "soul" out of the final film, and she talks about one particular "mystical through-line" scene that she says was cut but is very important to understanding part of the movie... so I came here wondering if that scene exists somewhere on RUclips. Still looking, unfortunately.
The reason this movie is so good is because it has the best dramatic stakes - at its heart, it's about a group of teenagers whose father is kidnapped/taken from them, and have to navigate a strange new world on the surface (and with the aid of humans) in order to find him. Hell, the Turtles don't get reunited with Splinter until the last 5 minutes, so you're essentially cheering for them the entire time to 'get Splinter back'. The Secret of the Ooze... well, they were simply trying to understand where they came from. And they find out. Oh, and now there's a mutated snapping turtle & wolf on the loose. Gotta stop em I guess. Or the silly Feudal Japan one. Dramatic stakes always beat budget and production value.
I really like these extra scenes, especially the alley scene and the Mike training with sketches scene. Wish they would have made it into the film.
I find it interesting no one ever considers why some comicbook/game adaptions work and some do not. It is all about how true the movie is to it’s original source. The first Turtles movie worked and is so beloved because it is basically a complete adaption of the first graphic novel. If they were to have changed things it would have messed with the structure and the pace of the movie. Another example? Look at the recent Sonic movie, because they changed the design to fit the original source that movie did very well, despite the story being pretty far from the source material (the sequel should focus only on Sonic/Tails/Robotnik... we don’t need the humans).
My point is, if Hollywood would stop thinking they know better than the original creators and fans, these movies would do a whole helluva allot better. No more changing the sex, race, name, origin, etc of a character, stick to the era that story came out... for example a new Turtle’s show/movie should take place in the 80’s. The more they stray from the original source, the more these movies will fail (just look at that live action Dragonball movie, it was a shitshow).
Imagine a crossover movie of batman 1989 and TMNT 1990 I know they did it in comics/cartoons but a movie would have been awesome
TMNT was my entire early childhood. More specifically the original 1987-1996 series along with the original 3 movies although not so much the third. It would be amazing to get an extended directors cuts with these deleted scenes all in tact.
I always knew that was mikey on the roof. Thought Raph voice was a very old Mistake. You could see the nunchucks.