At 57 years old, I’m not waiting another 2-3 years! Just got the alloy NX version after test riding as many emtbs as I could. I’m aware of all the negative press of the Fazua, but it seems ever other motor brand has problems so in the end, you just gotta go with what you like. Don’t wait, because life is short
@@jokermtb good perspective! I will say it is a great bike to ride! One thing I will say is that I feel a lot better knowing that the 2 year warranty period restarts with a new motor replacement.
Thanks for making an honest review. its hard for people to not defend their purchase by saying it's the best bike ever. I also really wanted this bike as I love the Patrol and would like an ebike version of it but transition price this way to high. Hopefully the next version retains the removable battery option as I like that but it really needs to refine everything if their gonna charge that much
@@KiwiInGermanyMTB Thank you for watching! Yeah I will always give me honest review of things I buy with my own money. I also hope when they make a new version of this bike they fix the nuisance’s.
I’ve been moderately happy with my transition relay. I also have mine set up in the mullet configuration. I agree the door for the battery could’ve been done a lot better that door makes a lot of noise. I have actually ridden my bike a few times without the battery and I thought it wasn’t badlike you I think this bike is about 70% there but they still got about 30% to make it a really good bike
Great vid, also have a Relay PNW and like it :) nevertheleass needed a new motor right out the box, now 1200km in w/o issues. Battery/door no issues so far, just needed to apply assemble paste to the motor/frame conract screwing points because of creaking, but this solved it. How many km/miles you have on the clock?
Sounds like you need to adjust your battery clip for a more secure hold, I had to adjust mine when I got the bike but no issues since which was probably 800 miles back
Definitely a learning curve going from my 2nd gen analog SC Heckler to this 2024 Trans Relay. No regrets but it will take some time learning to carve turns and get it off the ground. It's a very planted and stable bike for sure, but thats not a bad thing. My biggest complaint is for the money spent, the Fazua ring controler is a fiddly mess of poor engineering amd execution. Dirt easily gets inside which mucks up the magnetic controls and needs cleaning frquently. Otherwise the ring gets stuck in either up or down position. Im told there's a newer version. Same basic design but with bigger magnets for more robust operation. The newer version has a glossy finish vs the matte on the current ones. Honestly i like the ring concept, but not if they cant improve the functionality and reliability. Overalll though, its an excellent choice in the SL category. Especially the PNW build for my style of riding.
@@Chris-505 with the exception of the ring controller and battery door panel, the rest of the bike is superbly done. The suspension, geometry, and build spec are fantastic. IMO the Fazua motor itself works well too. Not sure about the OPs issues but hoping it's an exception and not the norm.
@@jcgarcia1931 i have the latest revision and no issues with sticking, never cleaned the controller in 1600km of riding tbh 😅 but it feels flimsy and i don‘t like the boost and walk mode activation, so I‘ll replace it.
Good honest review even if I disagree on some points. The battery door could be better, no doubt. I have, and have had, a lot of e-bikes. I have a lot of experience with most bikes and drivetrains. Fazua had trouble with their earlier motors and software but all three of my Ride 60 bikes have had no issues. I have a Relay PNW and absolutely love it. I’m a pretty decent bike mechanic and it took me 2 rides to iron out the bugs. If you had a battery fall out it is was most likely user error (but with a caveat that I’ll explain). You need to make sure that all the zip ties and hardware are positioned correctly in the battery tray thing and that the metal tab is positioned correctly. If not, you can get connectivity issues and battery ejection. As much as I love the bike I do admit that the fact that you have to constantly check the battery tray to make sure zip ties are in the right position is a big flaw. Unless you’re somewhat mechanically inclined it might not occur to most people. That shouldn’t be a thing for a $9k bike. Beyond that the Relay is quite a bike. It’s my go to for steeper & chunkier rides. It’s not a trail bike by any means. It’s pretty boring on most trails but when the going gets rough the Relay gets going. Transitions giddy up suspension platform is very active and does not provide the smoothest ride but it’s fast and confidence inspiring. If you want a better ride the gen2 Levo SL has a much better ride but is a class back in terms of capability. In my opinion the Relay PNW is probably better suited to an expert level rider. It’s not a good first ebike. There are a lot of great e-bikes being sold today. I can only think of a few bike brands that I’d consider sub par. Anyway, I don’t want to stray away from talking about the Relay PNW. Maybe I missed it but the review didn’t talk about the spec of the bike which is incredibly good right out of the box. I don’t recall hearing about the geo either. The Relay, all of them, are long and slack which is why they aren’t the greatest trail bikes. However, there are some features that are huge standouts. The top tube and seat tube are very low which allows for a size medium frame to have a 180mm dropper which is an absolute game changer for us short kings (I’m 5’8”). For such a battle ax of a bike the reach is reasonable and the riding position is super comfy. All the Relays are excellent climbers. I could go on forever….anyway, Transition makes a great riding bike but each model is very purpose built. If you can only have 1 ebike and you’re not shredding the gnar on every ride the Relay PNW might not be your jam.
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At 57 years old, I’m not waiting another 2-3 years! Just got the alloy NX version after test riding as many emtbs as I could. I’m aware of all the negative press of the Fazua, but it seems ever other motor brand has problems so in the end, you just gotta go with what you like. Don’t wait, because life is short
@@jokermtb good perspective! I will say it is a great bike to ride! One thing I will say is that I feel a lot better knowing that the 2 year warranty period restarts with a new motor replacement.
Thanks man. This was helpful
@@MILTONATOR Appreciate you watching!
thanks for your review. it helps a lot.
great review dude.
Thank you!
Thanks for the review! I will be probably buying the next iteration of Transition Relay or something with Bosch SX motor within a couple of years.
Yeah if I were to buy an ebike right now I would choose a Bosch motor
hey thanks for making these vids on the relay
Thank you!
Thanks for making an honest review. its hard for people to not defend their purchase by saying it's the best bike ever. I also really wanted this bike as I love the Patrol and would like an ebike version of it but transition price this way to high. Hopefully the next version retains the removable battery option as I like that but it really needs to refine everything if their gonna charge that much
@@KiwiInGermanyMTB Thank you for watching! Yeah I will always give me honest review of things I buy with my own money. I also hope when they make a new version of this bike they fix the nuisance’s.
The alloy PNW is an absolutely value king. Yes, it weighs a little more but you can save so much $$$.
I’ve been moderately happy with my transition relay. I also have mine set up in the mullet configuration. I agree the door for the battery could’ve been done a lot better that door makes a lot of noise. I have actually ridden my bike a few times without the battery and I thought it wasn’t badlike you I think this bike is about 70% there but they still got about 30% to make it a really good bike
Yeah I totally agree with your point of being 70% there but just needed a little more.
Great vid, also have a Relay PNW and like it :) nevertheleass needed a new motor right out the box, now 1200km in w/o issues. Battery/door no issues so far, just needed to apply assemble paste to the motor/frame conract screwing points because of creaking, but this solved it. How many km/miles you have on the clock?
Thank you! Interesting, my bike only has ~200km but is now giving me issues.
Sounds like you need to adjust your battery clip for a more secure hold, I had to adjust mine when I got the bike but no issues since which was probably 800 miles back
@@reeveshollar9233 woah, I didn’t know you could adjust the battery clip. How’d you adjust it?
Definitely a learning curve going from my 2nd gen analog SC Heckler to this 2024 Trans Relay. No regrets but it will take some time learning to carve turns and get it off the ground. It's a very planted and stable bike for sure, but thats not a bad thing. My biggest complaint is for the money spent, the Fazua ring controler is a fiddly mess of poor engineering amd execution. Dirt easily gets inside which mucks up the magnetic controls and needs cleaning frquently. Otherwise the ring gets stuck in either up or down position. Im told there's a newer version. Same basic design but with bigger magnets for more robust operation. The newer version has a glossy finish vs the matte on the current ones. Honestly i like the ring concept, but not if they cant improve the functionality and reliability. Overalll though, its an excellent choice in the SL category. Especially the PNW build for my style of riding.
@@jcgarcia1931 yeah I think for the price I was expecting the bike to be more thought out and refined.
@@Chris-505 with the exception of the ring controller and battery door panel, the rest of the bike is superbly done. The suspension, geometry, and build spec are fantastic. IMO the Fazua motor itself works well too. Not sure about the OPs issues but hoping it's an exception and not the norm.
@@jcgarcia1931 new „mode controler“ is coming early 2025 especially for MTBs, looks quite stirdy and promising, I‘ll swap mine
@@tmae-9284 here's to hoping the current one lasts that long. Just have to keep it clean and cross my fingers.
@@jcgarcia1931 i have the latest revision and no issues with sticking, never cleaned the controller in 1600km of riding tbh 😅 but it feels flimsy and i don‘t like the boost and walk mode activation, so I‘ll replace it.
Do you have a slight rattle that appears to be coming from the battery area, I notice it more in the chatter not so much on smoother jump trails
@@MattStotts yes I do. I have noticed this is a common problem and a lot of relay riders experience this as well.
I think its a bearing in where my rear shock is mounted, I do love the bike
In my case, the rattling came from wires bouncing around. A little tape and foam fixed it. Just route the wires a little neater.
Thanks for the input
Good honest review even if I disagree on some points. The battery door could be better, no doubt. I have, and have had, a lot of e-bikes. I have a lot of experience with most bikes and drivetrains. Fazua had trouble with their earlier motors and software but all three of my Ride 60 bikes have had no issues. I have a Relay PNW and absolutely love it. I’m a pretty decent bike mechanic and it took me 2 rides to iron out the bugs. If you had a battery fall out it is was most likely user error (but with a caveat that I’ll explain). You need to make sure that all the zip ties and hardware are positioned correctly in the battery tray thing and that the metal tab is positioned correctly. If not, you can get connectivity issues and battery ejection. As much as I love the bike I do admit that the fact that you have to constantly check the battery tray to make sure zip ties are in the right position is a big flaw. Unless you’re somewhat mechanically inclined it might not occur to most people. That shouldn’t be a thing for a $9k bike. Beyond that the Relay is quite a bike. It’s my go to for steeper & chunkier rides. It’s not a trail bike by any means. It’s pretty boring on most trails but when the going gets rough the Relay gets going. Transitions giddy up suspension platform is very active and does not provide the smoothest ride but it’s fast and confidence inspiring. If you want a better ride the gen2 Levo SL has a much better ride but is a class back in terms of capability. In my opinion the Relay PNW is probably better suited to an expert level rider. It’s not a good first ebike. There are a lot of great e-bikes being sold today. I can only think of a few bike brands that I’d consider sub par. Anyway, I don’t want to stray away from talking about the Relay PNW. Maybe I missed it but the review didn’t talk about the spec of the bike which is incredibly good right out of the box. I don’t recall hearing about the geo either. The Relay, all of them, are long and slack which is why they aren’t the greatest trail bikes. However, there are some features that are huge standouts. The top tube and seat tube are very low which allows for a size medium frame to have a 180mm dropper which is an absolute game changer for us short kings (I’m 5’8”). For such a battle ax of a bike the reach is reasonable and the riding position is super comfy. All the Relays are excellent climbers. I could go on forever….anyway, Transition makes a great riding bike but each model is very purpose built. If you can only have 1 ebike and you’re not shredding the gnar on every ride the Relay PNW might not be your jam.