It’s Awkward, but the “Torso+2Tire” Technique Guarantees You Gap Jumps [Without Crashing] - 4K
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Jumps are hard. This video doesn't magically fix that.
In fact, if you're a beginner or inexperienced, get a lesson. This is not safety advice, coaching advice, or encouragement for you to try jumping. Jumping is flat out dangerous.
This video covers step-by-step progressions you can use to train your body to create a predictable jumping action on your mountain bike that translates well to gap jumps!
00:00 - Start
02:14 - #1 reason why you crash on gap jumps
03:22 - How to land on any kind of jump safely
07:33 - Level Lift Bike Jump Drill
08:50 - Front Wheel Lift Jumping Drill (hardtail or full suspension)
10:18 - How to time a jump correctly (easy way)
13:07 - Common Jumping Mistakes
14:38 - Final Drills!
16:54 - How to do a speed check for a gap jump
18:47 - Common mistake - landing rear tire first
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I have no issue hating on some other channel's "tutorials"...
Hate watching gets old fast 😂
This is by far the best jumping advice Ive ever seen on RUclips.Linking this advice with some confidence will get you in the air and landing clean.
Stand up to the jump
the song and video are now in my head and I can't make it stop 😅
Could be worse - I could do a video about no handers and get you to sing let it go from frozen
Crouch down? You’re a (soon to crash) clown.
love the Loam Ranger video'stand up to the jump' or how to jump with no fear transformed my learning curve. He nails it in the simplest concise way.
You got to stand up, to the jump; to got to stand up to the jump.
The trampoline example is totally spot on!
I discovered it when I collapsed under my own weight trying to be a hero with bent legs. My kids destroyed me.
I like to think of it as jumping on skis. Compress just before the transition, then extend the legs as you ride over the lip.
Timing is crucial.
Good analogy for sure
I’ve always employed the ‘huck and pray’ method. Works great 👍🏻
Well in my 50's and learning to jump is more fun than I thought it is going to be but it hurts like hell.. seeing the young doing flybys as if not a big deal 😂.. Thanks for your advice David! Much appreciated 👍
We don't recover like we used to! I've got more scars on my body in the last 7 years than my lifetime up to that. Thank goodness for pads!
As a 38 year old who have been mountainbiking "seriously" for three years it is always great to hear people 10-15 years older than me still sending it. This passion is for life ❤
Another video to learn and another skill to practice. Cant wait to apply it to practice it today💪🏼
King of mtb movement breakdowns. Thanks for these, really helpful, especially kinematics and muscle activation.
Glad you like them! My bro in law (head coach of MTB academy) is actually the real expert :)
Great breakdown, currently working on my jumps. Went full send on a table, overshot and landed nose heavy. rode it out, but scary AF. As with any other feature, confidence and commitment are key. If you ain't feeling it, keep practicing the smaller stuff.
Hands down this is the best jumping video on RUclips! Thank you so much, that video was highly needed
Wow, thanks!
Agreed - thorough without being overly boring or long winded. I love that he covers the Concepts and basics first building up to the actual exercise/jump!
Many thanks! This means a lot (it’s a bit challenging to find this balance and I’ve definitely got lots to learn and improve) - super appreciate this!
Love your channel! keep it up!
Super- glad it’s good
Great Video. "The Gronk" at Thunder Mtn Bike Park in Charlemont, MA has 38 tabletops to practice on. My only advice from training other sports, once you're getting very tired, quit practicing. When tired your technique will get sloppy and your body will record your form and bad form will become muscle memory to be overcome next time. Enjoy the easy flowy trails when your body says you're done learning for that day.
Good stuff! Yeah injuries usually happen when we’re tired
I'll have to look into this place. I'm a local. Hopefully it's better than PSF?
Thunder is AWESOME for the true intermediate rider to progress.
@@tagzedawgthis is real, once you find the lines and a flow on trillium you can shred🎉
Your videos are one of the best on the YT!
Glad you like them! Lots of really solid entertainers and established how-to guys and gals
Great channel! I used your advice regarding cornering and it helped quite a bit. I did get a little too confident and lost the front wheel 😮 a few stitches in my forearm and I’m back. Can’t wait to practice the techniques you have outlined in this video.
Glad it helped and sorry about the stitches!
nice one. like how you explain and show how to do it.. i just need to practice this and the drops to get more confidence.
Great advice thanks for thorough explanation!
You bet!
Great, practical analogies. Love your content
Glad it’s practical! 💪🏻
Great non condescendent teaching stuff. Ty
Glad it’s chill 💪🏻
Love these videos. I don't even ride mtb, but they're helping me with BMX.
Nice. Lots of crossover. LOTS. Bmx is legit.
Another great video.
Thanks again! Tryin my best
awesome info
Glad it was helpful!
Suuuper helpful dude. Thanks. I can hit tables, but the gap trips me put because of the damage it could cause if I don't clear it. Will use your techniques. 🤙
Glad it helped!
I would add to this that practicing on pump track rollers is a good way to get the mechanics of take of and landing...good video
Yup I’ll probably do an entire series on that
Plus I’m rebuilding my backyard pump track
Great video. I apreciate the mention of the anti row and moment of letting go. A friend of mine who was competing in dirt jump competitions described the moment when you leave the lip of a jump like this.
the bike and your body momentarily become
separate masses of weight flying through the air
which make a total sense when you think of moves like a superman.
Its essentially its more important to know where your body is positioned in the air and move the weight of the bike under neath your to guide it to its desired landing spot.
Also in my personal experience I have found it incredibly helpfull to
Incorporate smalll wips and playfulness early on in the process of learning to jump as it really helps to combat the standing up and stiffening up problem.
Standing up to the jump and Playfulness have been the jumping game changers for me
Sorry but couldn’t think of anything to roast you with
Nice pony!
It’s ok we can just leave it on bake instead of roast
This was a nice one:
"the hands are along for the ride."
Should be printed on a t-shirt...
Well, I've been guilty of trying to land manual for the steez. It works sometimes 😅
All makes a lot of sense 👍
Can you make a video of how to ride and jump with a hardtail? Thank you for very good videos 👌
Ya know - I'm getting a lot of this. Might as well.
Great video! Time to go big or go to the ER 😎
Have fun!
does your bike size matter ? and if yes, how much? i am between sizes and i got a larger size, a M size Canyon Spectral. The bike feels a bit large but very stable and comfortable.
If the bike is bigger i assume it affects your ability to move the center of mass towards the rear axle ? I started biking again after 30 and i want to be able to at least some jumps without breaking my body :). Thx in advance!
Looking at the videos. Guys knees are bent in the air. So stand up and press into jump then once in the air scoop pedals bend knees and get into attack position for landing ?
I think that’s an accurate assessment of what’s happening… but in practice it’s not exactly that.
More like: press into the jump on the takeoff, get your torso trajectory going to where you need it to go, when in the air stop pressing downward with your legs and start using the combo of your legs, torso, and momentum to land the bike properly.the bike’s momentum will want to help it come up with your body. Allowing the legs to bend allows the bike to come up. Resisting the legs bending pushes the bike away from you.
If you jump as high as you can right now on your feet from a standing position, your legs will naturally bend some as you land. If you force your legs straight you might hyperextend your knee. If you force yourself into a squat position mid-air you’ll land and have a hard time resisting the falling weight. Instead, use a slight bend to help absorb any impact. The same goes for the landing impact on a bike. Too much crouch and you won’t resist the impact and collapse into your bike, no bend and you’ll have a harsher impact (luckily people have suspension and are often landing on a down-slope).
Staying relatively loose in the air is important. If your torso is going to the right place but the bike is a little misaligned, loose-ish arms and legs can help you bring the bike to where it needs to be. Stiff arms and legs won’t be able to guide that bike to where it needs to go.
Press into the jump, in the air let the legs bend and allow the bike into you (maybe even scoop a little as Steve Stevenson says in the video), get your torso and bike oriented to the right angle, land and get ready for that next corner IT’S SO CLOSE!!!!
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Best piece of advice I've taken from this is to start slow on a table top - forget about clearing the table top and focus on the movement\control. DO NOT just speed up to clear it. Yeah sure, speeding up will probably mean you clear it but you've learnt nothing. Plus when you do get it wrong the consequences are worse. So forget about your ego, slow it down and get the movement right.
Spot on
Excellent video with great insights into the mechanics. I have just one little nitpick - i dont really agree with achieving the front first landing via scooping the legs - this leaves torso in the wrong (too much upward, hands straight) position - you need to lead the bike with your chest (and legs should not actively be bent, just relaxed to allow bike bend them a bit when it goes towards a body). Actually in most of the demo jumps the legs are not bent actively and chest position is fine - it is just this single drill/step thats sounds wrong.
I get that it may be useful to get used to the feeling of landing front first via this bad habbit of bending legs - but it may actually do more harm than good as if you automate this, it is difficult to get rid of. Active leg bending is justifiable only just before lending in case you need to get an extra feet of flight in emergency (casing big gap or so).
Great info ! At least you keep your shirt on for this one lol
Ha I only do that if necessary
Kinda uncomfortable to ride without a shirt on for some reason.
Really appreciate your approach and attention to details . The details of course have to be committed to muscle memory and feeling... if you have to think about it, then its too late. So here with the question. When you straighten up, do you push perpindicular to ground, or the ramp of the jump ?
The reason i ask is because on steep ramps eg more than 45% that means you are pushing backwards..and that feels super unnatural ( ok terrifying is actually more precise in my case)
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Thanks very much for the reply. Firstly 2010 , not my birth year, just some number given me by the Internet machine. I am some way older, way older . This explains why taking risks has to be balanced as well as bad technique minimised. For instance, you called it I often land tail first, especially when tired...just forget to scoop , bad technique.
Regarding the angle of the jump and body position/ movement, reality difficult to define, just the steeper the slope the less need to hang back and bring the wheel up as the slope just sends you up, it does the work for you. Let's see, I will try the excersise and get the feeling. Once again thanks for your comments .
what setup are you running for your Ohlins front Shock? I have the same one and trying to dial it in
I’ll have to check I literally set it up once and forgot
Fantastically easy setup.
You said, front wheel down first which makes complete sense. I've crashed too many times to remember when landing rear wheel and my body is leaning to one side.
That being said, there is a gap jump from a turning left hand shark fin into another left hand elevated burm, then immediately into a right hand berm. I have such a hard time clearing it. Last time I pulled and sent it I had a hard crash. I over rotated left and corkscrewed in the air and hit the right back side of my helmet. On a side note, from that crash I'm a believer in MIPS!
My question is: when jumping sloping turns is the body supposed to be at the same angle as the slope or more upright?
Maybe for another episode?
Super detailed/good question
I’d have to see it to really offer detailed insight of course but the principle of putting your torso on trajectory during takeoff is 3x more important because you have to both land and change direction at the same time.
So it’s complicated
Watch Brandon semenuk raw v1 on RUclips about halfway through he hips left and over turns it midair
Then go back and watch the torso
He simply puts it where it needs to go then moves the bike around himself.
What you’re talking about is quite advanced stuff lol
How do you get those handlebars so high on the front wheel lift without pulling with your arms at all? No matter how much you push with your legs, how is only the front wheel jumping up som much all the way to your waist without any weight shift of your body or help from your hands? Is it just the fact that you stand up taller and the shoulders drag arms and handlebars up high?
Nope - you gotta push and the jump does the lifting for you!
@@mountainbikeacademy Yeah, and it feels like I have to 'jump' off the rear wheel at the lip. Almost like the rear wheel is an extension of your foot, you would just off the lip the same way.
How about a video on soaking up a jump, (please) there is this one jump that if you hit it at trail speed you will way over jump it but it kills the end of the run if you slow down enough to not over do it.????
Yessir literally just made one - last third or so of this one ruclips.net/video/-dQQxzgXwGA/видео.htmlsi=yEo6xWgWqUaEeZvO
When assessing the speed to come at a jump, How do you find the balance between speed and compression strength? Im tending to find jumps can be ridden at a faster speed with less compression or almost no compression (the jump kind of sends you the right way), or slower with more bunny hop.
is one of these 'better' in any way? Maybe for tricks/stunts you need more airtime, but for a race you want to minimize air time?
Very very good question - In general, you're totally right. Faster speed needs less "pop".
Where you want to be careful is going all speed no pop- you can get compressed.
Also, going way too slow and ultra-popping hard seems to only work for BMX riders who don't care and somehow know how to defy physics :)
You are awesome man.
You are!
I think this advice will get you there, but I conceptualize it differently.......It makes more sense to me that you don't allow your fork to absorb the lip of the jump. If you weight down at the bottom of the transition and stand up straight as you ascend the jump, the suspension will extend as you approach the lip. This eliminates your rear wheel hooking the lip, sending you potentially over the bars. Pumptrack is the best way to learn timing on the transitions. Landing front wheel first might be equal or even more sketchy. Unless you're coming in level with the landing. I broke my collarbone landing front wheel first at the bottom of the landing. Lets just say forks aren't at their best landing front wheel first. I would have been better off on a rigid. Small jumps with good landings are fun to pop (BMX/DJ) but I'm still looking for the confidence to send gaps.
It would be really interesting to hear your thoughts about how a rider can handle self doubt and fear. I practice pretty darn regularly, my basics are in a good place but sometimes my head feels like a brick wall that I struggle to break through. Even after doing the jump or feature that I'm afraid of, later the doubts and fears creep back in and it feels like I'm doing it for the first time all over again. I'm constantly subconsciously holding myself back and its a really tricky aspect of my riding to overcome.
Exactly. I'm in the same spot as you.
If you have a concrete driveway, I do the little bounce drills you show @8 by just bouncing over the expansion joints as I roll down the driveway. Fifty years old on a gold bike. bouncing down the driveway. I know my neighbors must think I'm nuts.
lol maybe not
I am a little confused though in the training regarding the front wheel at the 10:10 time stamp in the video. It looks like you are pulling up to pull the front wheel up. I thought you are to never pull with your arms when jumping.
Not pulling. Bouncing it up by pushing - review the front wheel lift!
You going to MTN Creek this weekend?
Not yet hoping to later this august
So use the English bunny hop instead of the American bunny hop?
Precisely old chap
Ok, I need a better understanding. After watching countless videos for the last year where people say dont bunny hop the jump. Your saying to squat down and come up pulling the bars and scope your feet. So isn't that a hop? I'm just trying to figure out how to jump . My mind has done went haywire for the last year.
Lmao “I need an enemy!” 😂😂
Maybe I don't, maybe the enemy is... boredom because we're stuck inside and can't ride lol
@@mountainbikeacademy 😂
If you want to land send it with a plan... Best I got.
Way better than mine lol
is it the same if the jump is from a curved lip instead of a flat take off "ramp" ?
same general concept...totally depends on landing IMO this is kind of a question you may want to ask a coach, friend/riding buddy while you are at the feature specifically! Hope that makes sense.
But yes the concept of creating the trajectory you want = same
Thanks. Today I have cleared jump that was giving me issues before. Now it was easy followi your tips. Will try it slowly on other features as well ! Keep up the good content!
Why when jumping I'm being thrown to the right? It's frusting.
you say that we dont push or pull the handle bar, but as a demo 10:07 i see you pull the handle bar so clearly, do i miss sth? plz, it make me confuse :((
It’s bouncing up. If im pulling, its extremely small in this example
@@mountainbikeacademy i mean i dont know how to practice it the right way, can you make a video to explain it more clear? Many thanks, love all of your tutors!
06:25 "ding"👍
Alexa delivers at the worst times had to roll with it
@@mountainbikeacademy didnt hear Alexa thought it was a joke because of the boost from the force of weight that you take off to the sky "ding" and pointing the way. 😂😂😂
Literally Amazon delivered haha
Great explanation of the need to stand up. Will drills one and two work on a hard tail? In the demonstration, it looks like the shocks are causing the bike to lift.
Try it. It’s different but the same at the same time.
@@mountainbikeacademy So in other words, try the same drills on my hardtail. My biggest problem with jumps is that I pull the bike up into me in the air. I don't really get kicked or anything like that but I may be overcompensating. I'm also of an age where if I'm going to jump, I want to make sure I'm doing it safely. Not looking for any big air but would be nice to not feel like I need to roll everything.
👍🏻👍🏻
Scooping with your feet is important if you ride with flat pedals to keep the grip on the pedals, not sure if you mentioned that. landing no footed hurts your nuts.
Yeah I did mention
Hope your nuts are ok✊🏻🥹
@@mountainbikeacademy The left one fully recovered.
All you need is one haha haha
If you want to land, you gotta stand!
Missed opportunity: SPOTTED
Or send, depending on the gap
Why does everyone say landing back wheel first is so dangerous? Imo it's less dangerous because you can hit your brake and come back down even if your 90deg straight up. I'm convinced you can come back down from past 90deg w the momentum.
I explained my reasoning pretty thoroughly-
Obv if you’re in control and aimed straight you can totally be fine landing gear first (aka back wheel first)
But 100 percent the worst slams I’ve seen in person have been back tire first.
@mountainbikeacademy Yea don't get me wrong I think this vid was awesome and very well made and explained. I think however in a situation where it's a new rider trying to learn jumps and starting gaps, landing front first is pretty dangerous. You did say only by a fraction of a second but to a new rider that means str8 nose manual all the way down the lander. When in reality it's just getting to a point you can steer the bike again. Landing parallel is the goal but for new ridets rear first allows for a much larger window to land the jump and can eliminate some of the fear that comes w matching a steep lander until you feel confident to do it better. Contrary to what you said tho, I've never seen someome crash from landing too far back, but have witnessed plenty of otb crashes on jumps, getting bucked or trying to land too nose heavy and rolling straight over the bars down the lip. I'm not encouraging back wheel landing I'm just saying for new riders it's probably safer.
@@MatttKelly all fair points - and in theory you're spot on (plus I'd agree that more FREQUENTLY I see OTB than not, it's the ones that get someone concussed have been the back tire first)
In practice when I teach beginners + actual coaching companies all kind of agree getting people to practice landing tires at the same time first without clearing a whole table is certainly a better progression.
But yes I agree- if you could prevent beginners from nosing over that's ultimately a good outcome! Thanks for taking the time to write!
You talk too much in your garage 😂 Get out on the trails and show us! Dave, you need to be careful asking for roasters. The comment swamp is the real deal. Dont worry, it'll come haha.
Doctor hasn’t cleared me yet :) had surgery months ago and all my footage is from last year ! I will soon.
Also you jump forward not backward guys.
Sounds daft but I jump like I’m actually running and jumping the jump except on a bike 👍🏼 think it comes from rollerblading back in the day……yeah I’m old 😂
Light hands heavy feet
Yup IMO some of the best universal tips right there
Here's your mnemonic, "If you want to land, be in command"
Really good video, but I would say overly technical. Too many things to think about and consider. A follow on, more simple summary to these videos may be helpful.
Fair enough!
Using the front brake in the air is bad advice. Great way to wash the front. Back brake is fine
Dang did I say front? Yeah back brake is good- good catch - thanks!
I understand the concept because I do it but for people who don't jump properly... Maybe harder to get what he's talking about. Kids who rode bikes and jumped off curbs should be naturals
crouch to crash stand to land
talk about a missed opportunity on my part lol - sheesh
As a teaching tool, this vid is realy upside down 😢
If this is a roast I am failing to catch the analogy sorry
But If serious critique what’s upside down about it?
Well, i would edit some visual demo before all those words.
Ah fair
Tbh I’m doing less editing because it helps me get more content out but totally fair- thanks for the feedback
The only thing that can improve this video is the presenter being called Harley.
Checked, not related that would be too good
HI ,Nice work Mate !!🤙Do you mund I put this link🤙on my channel !??✌Because it's so useful And I can show to my Cantonese speaking friends for this✌
Go ahead! Eventually I’m going to recycle all my content in other languages too
Here’s how I learned. First learn to bunny hop (American, not English pogo hop). Then slow your rebound on your rear shock, and essentially do a slower bunny hop that starts at the entrance to the jump and ends at the lip. That puts you and the bike in the right body position and you don’t have to do much beyond that.
Also, watch pros, film yourself, and get over your ego. Bad form is obvious when you watch it in slow mo video.
You mean you don't just have to stand up to the jump???
@@TheBigBloakHimself Haha, that really caught on. And no, that video didn't do much for me (but I did like his video on cornering). Simple, good advice about body position, but preload is half the battle.
I thought the video was catchy and was curious if it really helped or just got a lot of love in the comments - glad he made it lol
Why would anyone roast you?
I dunno my friends and co workers always roast heavy it’s fun
Alright then, you've been warned.
You're very handsome and your videos are super helpful
Well you're just super nice and if I rode bikes w you I'd probably like it
I tuned in, to see the discussion - purely as a curious MOTORCYCLIST *I've always wondered why gaps are so hard for bicyclists - and was finished as soon as you urged viewers of your content to "buy in" or be "freeloaders" ...I suddenly don't have the time to watch you anymore
lol mountain bikers aren’t very uptight they tend to think it’s funny but all good man
Actually find this to be a confusing tutorial...
Fair- have you seen any of my other videos and this one wasn’t helpful or are you a bit newer to the channel?
Good advise, why don’t you try to be a little less respectful. The whole thing was far to efficient. Trying cussing more please
Damn good advice, you probably
Couldn’t even finish my disrespect before hitting send I give up haha
How did I miss this 🤣 the attempt was made. I like it 👌🏻
All I hear after about 10 min of this is Charlie browns teacher. Man, you can either jump (pop) or not. End of story. I personally cannot. I rely on speed and good juju.
You can absolutely build up the skills to jump properly, I'd recommend the loam ranger's video on hitting jumps at any speed as well. Relying on speed only works until it backfires terribly.
Dear God, finally - a decent roast - I’ll send you some earplugs for my next video I just got a 30 pack from Amazon, more than enough to go around 😅😂@bullit4x doing gods work
@@mountainbikeacademy thanks man. I have ADD (seriously). It’s so hard for me. I’m a in person student. That’s why I keep bugging you about lessons. But I will take some earplugs.
have you tried Ninja or a local instructor? Just curious
Stand and land, 😂🪨🌲🌵⚒️🚵♀️David Davidson! I am Robert Robertson Trailbuilder dude