Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 6 Review and Comparison to older X1 Yoga
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This is a review of the X1 Yoga Gen 6. It includes comparisons to X1 Yoga Gen 1-5 in the process. It isn't a performance benchmark review of i5/i7, SSD or similar stats. It is showing the physical characteristics. At the end there is information on options available. Those options are at these websites:
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My video on upgrading the NVMe SSD is available at
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Thank you Brian! I am using X1 yoga gen 3 and consider to change to gen 6. Your review is very helpful!
Thanks for this great review! That's really clear to see the differences between different machines!
Thank you for taking the time to make this review. Interesting to see the evolution of the X1 yoga, not many folk have the opportunity to do that comparison the way you have! Any comments on battery life or smoothness of operation? I appreciate as you have said that it is not your primary device. Not a bad one to have kicking around though surely.
Happy you found it useful. The battery is even larger than the already big battery in previous X1 Yoga I am sure it will last through a normal day unless you are rendering video or playing games. It is snappy and smooth, which honestly should be expected from a current machine.
@@hoyty76 Have you tried disabling options in the Windows privacy settings and services in Windows? On the X1Y3, I find a lot of the Lenovo services are hogs that just use up a lot of battery - things like the System interface foundation, Intelligent Sensing, Power Manager, Dolby, Realtek Audio, etc.
You could go into the Command Prompt in Admin mode, then type in "powercfg -batteryreport" (without the quotes) which generates a html page to show what your drain is and battery capacity at various times and events. It'll show you how much sleep is using, etc.
Amazing review, ordered an X1 Yoga Gen 6 just now. Cannot wait for it!
Which country it is available ?
@@aravindcetce I'm from Germany.
Thank you for that reference link, it helped me determine that I won't be able to get the model that I wanted (32 GB RAM) here in the states.
It’s incredible that you have six X1!
I only have them from my work, they aren’t my personal devices.
Thanks for this great early review! The comparisons were very helpful! As of my current verification, going further from the PSREF, I found out that on the German and the Australian sites of Lenovo you can customize the machine, adding the PCIe 4 is a little over half a thousand AUD, so to speak, and maxing out the package is quite eye-watering :-D
If at a later point you could really put the CPU through its paces, and let us know how it performs.
Thanks for the review, looking forward to my new Gen 6
Thanks for the review, Brian.
As best as I can tell, if you have the 4k screen, you do not have a matte screen (which Lenovo calls 'anti-glare'); you have an anti-reflective screen which, regrettably, reflects pretty much ALL external light sources.
Thanks for this video. Very informational and very helpful for my decision, what to buy from Lenovo.
Thanks Brian! big support on your page
Thank you for this video. Just about to get an X1 Yoga Gen 2 for 600. Highest configuration
Why not gen1? It is big difference in battery?
How is the battery life with the 4k panel?
Thanks, Brian!
thank you !! great video !
Great review, thanks a lot!
This is great! Thank you
VERY GOOOOOD. . U HAVE ALL GEN
Thanks for creating this video. It's gold for many of us trying to visualize the differences!
I was wondering if you had any additional insight on the newer Gen 7 or Gen 8 X1 Yoga laptops. I am trying to decide between Gen 4 vs Gen 6/7/8 based on best value for a 4-5+ years laptop, and so far Gen 6 seems like the best although Gen 4 ebay prices are tempting. Gen 7 has 12th gen but worse battery and thermals it seems. Gen 8 looks good too but pricing. Also, do you recommend 16gb or 32gb for light coding and "future proofing"
The only real difference between 6/7 is the processor. If you get P instead of U processor it definitely is worse battery life. The 8 is again very similar. For long term I would go 32 since it can’t be upgraded.
@@hoyty76 Ah thanks for getting back to me. That's my dilemma for my trying to stay around my price range Gen 6 32gb vs Gen 7 with 12th gen but 16gb. Maybe RAM is more important for these! Thanks
I really don't like glossy screen ... and you can't see it in your video. How glossy, or matte is your gen 6 screen?
It is more matte than previous generations but still acts more like a mirror than I would prefer.
@@hoyty76 and that is the UHD+ version in your review correct?
@@jeffgasparitsch8585 yes it is the UHD one. I have since gotten some Yoga G6 with FHD screen. In most instances there isn’t a huge difference since I am scaling at 200%. With certain content it is better but normal office stuff hard to notice with such small screen.
Thank you for review Brian! Very interesting about WWAN that when this option chosen bottom plate was of different material in previous models. Was it like standard thinkpad material on the bottom and aluminium on the top? Wasn't it looking weird?
Yes, it looked odd. There was much discussion on it via the lenovo forums two years ago. There wasn't a sure way to know which you were getting. If you would like to see the debate forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/2019-X1-Yoga-4th-Gen-discussion-thread/m-p/4334403?page=14 I don't think the same thing happened with Gen 5 and don't know about Gen 6.
@@hoyty76 Actually in the other video of swapping ssd Jin mentiod sth about it in gen 5 too. Super strange. Now I need to consider if it's worth having wwan for odd look. Also, I wonder, could no WWAN but added NFC cause swap of material on the bottom.
OMG, u have all the generations...I am 6 generations behind u
I only have them since we buy machines annually at work. They are not mine.
How has the Yoga X1 hinges hold up to? I hear a lot of complaints about the Lenovo hinges breaking including Yoga. Is the new version of Yoga X1 version 6 hinges crack proof because of the aluminum base instead of plastic like some of the Legion models? This is the only issue that is making me hesitant to buy the Yoga X1. Thanks
I have over 100 X1 Yoga from Gen 1-6 at my work. I have had zero with hinge issues. I have had other issues but not hinges. They are very well designed and sturdy. We haven’t had Gen 6 long enough to know but I have no fear of that issue.
Great Video. A bit more light would be nice to see the black devices better
Yep, I noticed that after I was done. Not the best lighting. It was my first time doing it and learned a bunch for next time if I do it.
Thanks for the video. I just ordered a ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 6. I wanted to know if you kew if the Thinkpad Pro Docking Station (mechanical docking) was compatible with it. Thanks in advance.
Check out support.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories/um006391-accessories-and-options-compatibility-matrix-ocm for the definitive answer.
What specific purposes of your work organization do these Yogas fulfill instead of regular clampshell ThinkPads?
I work at a school and these are used by teachers. The ability to ink is very beneficial for grading and other interactions that can’t be done with a mouse.
Hi Brian.
Thanks for the review I'm new to these and only have a limited amount of money to spend.
Is there much difference between the Gen 4 and Gen 6 ?
Thanks
Depending on which Gen 4 it is either a Intel 8 or 10 series and Gen 6 is 11 series. Not a big difference. The screen is 16:10 on Gen 6 vs 16:9. They are very similar.
Hey Brian,
could you maybe elaborate how many computers (laptops and stationary machines) you have, how/for which tasks you use them and why you maybe even keep machines you don't use anymore? I would be interested because I always feel slightly guilty when I think about getting a secondary notebook, although my existing Yoga C940 one is only 14 months old and does everything I need. Always like to know about other people's computing habits and your seem to be special with that array of Yoga X1s. Did you buy them all by yourself? Personally I so far rather thought about getting computers fulfilling different roles, but specializing in one particular sort of machine would make you more of a connoisseur, I suppose.
Best wishes!
Only the Yoga Gen 6 is mine. The rest are for work. I support about 100 Lenovo laptops and 350 Microsoft Surface Pro. I buy them annually so I have access to almost every generation for last 6-7 years. I have a desktop that is custom built and now the Yoga G6 which replaced my Dell XPS 13 9360 from 4-5 years ago. I just don’t have space or time to personally maintain that many machines anymore.
Thanks for the review. Very usefull. How has fan noise been for you?
I haven't noticed it, I guess that is good.
Do now comparison x1 ThinkPad Yoga 6 vs X1 ThinkPad Yoga 7 vs X1 ThinkPad Yoga 8, please! It will be necessar.
I have them, I will see what I can do.
@@hoyty76 will be awesome and very useful for many people. :)
Hi Bian, Excellent video! Do you know if YogaX1Gen6 has an LTE card slot inside? I bought one. But I am not sure if it comes with one inside or even with a slot, so I could insert a LTE card on it. Trying to find the answer maybe you could help me. Thanks
There are versions of it that have LTE as an option but I am not sure that all of them have the slot for SIM or antenna wires to add later. For example only one model in the US 20XY00BKUS was sold with it in there. You can go to psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X1_Yoga_Gen_6 and lookup what models come with it.
thank you!!
Hi can u maybe do a vid abt using this laptop a year later and how it holds up? I got this version 20XY004PMH
Nowhere in the world is there a pre-built WWAN model! The CTO models in Australia don't have WWAN either - I wonder what's going on? (I'm waiting for one with a 5G modem).
You can now spec out WWAN in Australia!
@@mattyum1989 yeah - just bought one. 6-8 weeks before it's shipped apparently :(
Thank you for this helpful review that also illuminates historical aspects. :-)
Is there anyone else who would like a Yoga Thinkpad X1 with a 15" or even 16" screen? I always feel that 14" is a tad small to put several windows side by side when coding.
Writing this with my Yoga C940 15".
I personally don’t want a bigger screen / laptop than this if I am going to carry it regularly. Weight and fitting in a bag becomes an issue after a certain size. If I want a bigger screen I will attach a monitor.
Have you had experience with the x13 yoga gen 2? More specifically how that keyboard compares to the x1 yoga gen 6 keyboard? Kind of a longshot but hopefully you have
Sorry only used X1 Yoga not the X13.
@@hoyty76 No worries ,thanks for the prompt reply and in depth video!
Does the matte screen show scratches easily? Is it still glass or is it plastic on top? How is the pen like on the matte screen?
I haven't had it long enough to speak on scratches, honestly with previous X1 Yoga I never saw scratches that couldn't be cleaned off. They weren't scratches as much as dirt streaks. It appears to still be glass. Pen seems to work and slide similarly on this screen.
@@hoyty76 Is the finish of the surface comparable to a regular matte screen without a glass surface on top (like, is it rough)? In Australia we've got two options: Anti-Reflective/Anti-smudge (which is essentially gloss), and Anti-glare (a $50 option for 1920x1200). I've got a Kindle Oasis, which has a matte glass screen, and I'm wondering if it's like that. Sometimes the reflections can be a bit annoying on the X1Y3.
I don't have a Kindle Oasis but I have had many generations of Paper White and this screen doesn't have the type of coating those screens have. Much closer to a standard sheet of glass.
Please compare the performance of SSD PCIe 4.0 card with the previous model that run with SSD PCIe 3.0 card.
The PCIe 4.0 drive is about 2x as fast read and 20-25% faster write speed.
@@hoyty76 wow!
How well does the touch (finger and pen) work with a 4k screen? I have touch on my 1080p 14" screen, and I misfire sometimes even on that...
Most people will run at 200% scaling so the objects are close in size to 1080p. As long as the app is scaling aware it shouldn't be an issue. If you want to work on something like photo editing though you have the option of enhanced precision.
or you could just open it up and add your own 2tb drive... They charge $500 dollars to go from 256gb to 1tb when a 2tb nvme ssd costs $400. just wow
Yes, see my other video for that exact process. I upgraded from PCIe 3.0 256 GB to PCIe 4.0 to 1 TB. Very easy on this model.
I buy new one X1 Yoga G6, but my battery live only 4,5 hours :(
battery life?
I am not very mobile right now so I can't say much on this. It is a bigger battery than previous generations. Also the answer is dependent on CPU / Screen choice as much as anything else.
@@hoyty76 rough estimate on average normal usage? thats for the speedy reply. this is a great review. hope to see more
@@moodyrcf I received my Gen 6 a couple of days ago, it's the FHD version and the battery seems decent, lasting 8+ hours without doing anything too intensive, I've had it set to "better performance" mode as well, will get more if you choose better battery mode. However, I assume with the UHD models the battery life will be much less.
Is there PWM on the 4k screen? You can see it camera in slow-mo if it shows lines when lowering the brightness.
I don't know I recorded a slow-mo video and you can look at it here 1drv.ms/v/s!AtCN-1lJ1xdUm_kFa-Tbg91DyU2Zlg?e=3hUQld and see if you can see it?
@@hoyty76 Thanks for the video! I don't see any lines, so that's a relief.
Both this and m1pro macbook pro cost same in india (14") which should I go for??
It all depends if you want a PC or a Mac. I think they are both good laptops and much of the difference is the software. The X1 Yoga Gen 6 is about a year old now and the performance of M1 is likely better depending on what you are doing.
How does the pen work? How much latency is there?
It works well. It is Wacom technology based. The actual included pen isn’t great but is functional, you can use more ergonomic ones. I have extensive experience with Surface Pen and it is comparable.
Is the x1 yoga a throw away after a year laptop?
Definitely not, we have some X1 Yoga Gen 1 still in use after 5 years. They are premium machines.
Thank you for the reply. Is the x1 yoga gen 6 with i5 11th gen 16 gb ram, uhd display, good for video and photo editing? Can you use pen to draw and right on photographs / overlay on video?
@@willapanews9761 you can use the pen on almost any program to interact. You can definitely do that. It is just as capable as any other laptop. It isn’t as good as a machine with dedicated graphics like nVidia that helps with video processing. It can do it but will just be a little slower.
Thanks for the video but may I know is there any heat issue or thermal throttling issue like the gen 3 have had? Or is it much improved now as it now it uses 2 fan.
I haven't seen any issues but I haven't really stressed it either. Honestly never heard complaints on the 15 X1 Yoga Gen 3 for throttling issues.
Oh ok thanks. I guess the early batch as I have some heat issue if I put mine into "performance" power setting, it got me worry that's why I always set it into normal mode
If they just put the same materials on regular x1, this way I have to consider yoga 6 even I am not fan od convertible devices. What is better buying by your opinion. Regular carbon just do not feel good with that rubberized coating. Please advise
If you are talking about X1 Carbon it isn't rubber it is Carbon Fiber (Top), Magnesium Alloy (Bottom). It isn't as flashy as the Aluminum on X1 Yoga but works well. Whichever you like better. I have never used a X1 Carbon so I can't comment on it.
6 generation means ,,there processor of 6 gen ,,like core i5 6th generation,or core i 7 sixth generation?
No, it is the sixth version of the X1 Yoga model. It has 11th Gen Intel in it.
@@hoyty76 okey so if i went to buy one how can i difference between gen 1-6 gen ,,,an easy way?
@@fahads_artwork if you are buying from store it should have model that includes info. If not you can look at sticker on bottom to see version. Also can look up model number online.
@@fahads_artwork also my video shows every version and differences like color / ports / size.
@@hoyty76 Thanks :)
oh you have every generation YOGAs
Should be getting X1 Yoga Gen 7 by next week.
can you sell me one of these..
Sorry still using them.
You are rich guy ;)
They aren't all mine, mostly my work. Only the Yoga 6 is mine.
Why you narrating the whole history of X1 Yoga laptops? Is anyone going to buy those Gen 1, 2 and 3 models. We can understand you're an X1 Yoga enthusiast, but stretching the video too long with this boring stuff is just annoying.
Sorry it didn’t meet your expectations.
I suggest you buy one and show us how you do it better.
@@VincentVerb Better watch this one. ruclips.net/video/2zn7VcDt__I/видео.html When someone makes a video about a newly launched product, the presenter's goal should be how the viewers can see its features up close and make a buying decision. It really does not cost any more to do that. And I did not find that in the above video. It was not addressing the viewers' needs.
@@hoyty76 hey you did an awesome job man, I just got X1Y6 to start financial models. Your video helped me feel confident about this purchase as a rookie.. but yeah don’t go to in depth for past models cause it loses audience at times. Other than that you made a great video for your first time reviewing a laptop!
thank you!!!