I’m sure I’m missing something but after using Mags wash plus direct to mitt, I found using a hose to clean the mitt each time quick and used no more water than a big bucket with grit guard in.
I had the same idea dave had about these exept i use chem guys cyclone dirt trap on top of the grit guard.....i ended up breaking the grit guard lol! But hey it worked for a good while. Now i just stack 2 cyclone traps
I have watched this video 3 times. It blew my brain apart how he uses the fusion and wipeout. I am going to use a Chem Guys Cyclone and grit guard as my new system as other commenters have suggested.
Sweet, my new Scrub and pump GG Doesn’t quite fit in my buckets. I used a reg guard underneath but it was sitting on the DL’s tabs. Thats a good idea to cut the outer ring off.
Ive been using both the Cyclone and grit guard. Although i have cyclone on bottom .. only to add hight and make it easier reach the guard to scrub the Media. Fuzion reminds me of P&S Pearl.. its a soap that can be diluted down to a Rinseless wash. It can be foamed as a Rinseless too. Btw in title u say to throw away grit guard... video you use both??
@@HawkProDetailing Not trying to bash you, but this video has some incorrect information and not a great explanation of how the dirt lock actually works. I have an hour long video breaking down and explaining how grit guards work and why the dirt lock is the best and the grit guard is next to useless. The explanation in this video of the baffles and small holes is very inaccurate when you look at how the water actually flows through these devices. You can see my video here and I am happy to answer any questions. ruclips.net/video/iUwJYSAEY1I/видео.html&t=
@Mr305Maxxx The grit guards are really only for keeping large particles down. Small particles that can still damage clear coat float around all through the water. SO I really would only say you need one to keep large particles down when doing something like a rinseless wash with a BRS. I really am a big fan of the multimitt method and using as many clean tools as possible vs using grit guards where there is always contaminants in the water. I would only use a grit guard now for when i do quick touch up rinseless washes with like a Big Red Sponge or similar. Very very low contaminants washes basically.
Nice to see someone else using what I call the stacker method, been utilizing this method for quite some time. When pairing the stacker method with distilled water in the rinseless solution, evvveerrrryyyy thang just sinks to the bottom of the bucket.
Awesome video! I'm a mobile detailer and I do traditional washes, but I want to convert to a rinseless setup. I already have a 100 gallon tank in a cargo van. But if I could , I would love to have my van full of detail kegs. How would you setup your van and what rinseless product would you suggest using. Could I go all rinsless with no pressure washer and no water tank? Suggestions please, thanks
Not sure. But if you ate applying coating it's always recommended to at the very least apply a paint prep beforehand. Honestly a 1 step polish minimum will maximize durability, of course paint prep after polish and before coating
Dave Barker, thank you for the amazing advice and these Kick-Ass Kegs. I also want to say there is only one other rinse-less wash product that foams, and it's mckee's 37 N-914 rinse-less wash. Joe from Next Level Auto Detail introduced me to the product and it has amazing cleaning abilities and foaming abilities, but now I'm interested in trying out this Fuzion to see if it will replace n-914 for both interior and exterior. Keep safe and rock on brother.
Oh man - where do I begin! I might actually search RUclips for "yvan lacroix rinseless wash" for a tutorial. I still like an all purpose cleaner to pre soak...then rinse with a hose...then use rinseless method. Essentially rinsless means you don't need a final rinse before wax or sealant....and for lightly soiled cars you can pre soak with your rinseleas wash product ...let it encapsulate dirt ....thej use wash medium to wash...no rinsinf required ....maybe use a spray sealant as drying aid and dry the car. Boom you are done:)
Where can we buy the amphibian auto fiber drying towels he used in the video -dreadnaught on one side and mother fluffer on the other side? I can’t find them Thanks very much
Where can we get a bucket that is round enough, or large enough for the dirt lock and grit guard? So they will sit in the bottom of the wash bucket Thanks very much
What is crazy is that all you need is the ability to make a mold that does this for you already and call it "Dirty Guard". I am here for you anytime! I will take one for free for the genius name. I am not a fan of CG, but their grit guard "Cyclone" also seems like a good choice due to the holes being the smallest of all, so the odds of dirt coming back through are nearly impossible.
Why are ppl so hyped about using 2 buckets or more and grit guards. Doesn’t it make more sense to have a soap bucket and just use 3-4 good microfiber towels to wash a vehicle? Just flip the towel after each panel. Then there’s no chance or cross contamination in the soap bucket. Check out the video Larry over at AMMONYC has about it. That makes more sense.
@@megataurus7779 I rather use Sandro method from car craft auto detailing with no bucket. someone on Reddit already showed us how grit guards is never reliable
So to preface my comment I will say that I am just getting started into detailing and don't know 1/10 of what these guys do... I am not really commenting on the rinseless wash as much as regular washing but why don't more detailers use multiple wash mitts/mf vs grit guard? When I was getting into detailing I was looking at different buckets to buy and grit guards and was asking myself what is all this. I then found a pro detailer on youtube that brought up the method that I now use. I use multiple mf in my wash bucket and use both sides of it on a portion of the vehicle then throw that mf in my 'dirty' bucket. Since then I have found other pro detailers on yt using this method. Not sure why people still use the 2 bucket (or 1) with a grit guard... The dirt in your wash mitt/mf is not going to be to be totally gone just because you rubbed it against a plastic guard. Not hating on theses guys or their methods I'm just wondering why you wouldn't choose a method that seems a bit better at keeping those swirl marks to a minimum. Cheers and thanks for the video and keep up the good work.
Hey Dave , I thought I would chime in here as I just saw this video and believe there is some good information, but also some things that needed to be touched upon as they are misleading. 1) The Dirt Lock is next to impossible to break when inserting it inside your wash bucket and removing it. It's made from a special blend of industrial grade plastic that is rubber based, which means it can flex and warp itself into basically any shape. What will actually break is the cheap low-end buckets with a thin wall stock after long-repeated use. We actually found a way to improve the Dirt Lock and it now self-adjusts the pressure so it applies just the right amount of tension to prevent any bucket cracking. Video demo here 👉 ruclips.net/video/o7AvuwG2y4M/видео.html 2) By stacking something underneath the Dirt Lock, it does not make any improvements, it actually prevents the Dirt Lock from generating the proper pressure it needs to flow the water and create a seal with the bucket. With the way the water flows through the Dirt Lock, there is a constant higher pressure underneath the filter and lower pressure above. This creates a suction effect pulling the debris underneath the screen and slowly releasing the cleaner water free from particles above. Therefore, I highly do not recommend putting anything underneath the Dirt Lock bucket filter, let it do it's thing as it does it extremely well! Video demo here 👉ruclips.net/video/2LndE9cD63A/видео.html Thank you.
@@HawkProDetailing Hey! Thank you for the reply back, it's really appreciated. With the first generation model (The one you are using in the video) it does not have the ability to self-adjust the tension inside the bucket, which can make it a little snug on some buckets to remove... But it will not damage or break the Dirt Lock in any way, as it's pretty much bullet-proof with the type of plastic resin we use. If you leave it inside the bucket overnight, it will actually mold itself to match the size of your bucket as the plastic has a memory to it. The newer Dirt Lock model (Made after February this year) will automatically self-adjust to fit inside nearly any 3,4,5,6,7, or 8 gallon standard wash bucket to provide just the right amount of tension. Shoot me over an email: shipping@thedetailguardz.com and I will hook you up with the latest Dirt Lock model so you can test it out for yourself! :)
@@TheDetailGuardz hey! Thank you for the response, I learned something new today. I rewatched the video. I meant the bucket, the buckets break, not the guard in the bottom. I apologize for that confusion, I was hit with a lot of questions at once. The buckets split due to the guard pushing against the sides. I've never had a dirt lock itself break. When you say "cheap" buckets though, I would say it's happened in every style of taller bucket I've used outside of a Yeti bucket. "Taller" being even some brands of "5" gallon buckets, the quotations are because I'm pretty sure they're 4 gallon buckets advertised as 5. I appreciate you guys changing the design to help with this. I'll try to find a new style dirt lock to play with. I do believe the stacking video you posted is a little biased with having 2 grit guards. I've spent a lot time around how fluid moves in both it's natural state and when pressure is applied. I genuinely believe the baffles help with the high production I see out of my bucket. That's all I really use that grit guard for is the baffles. Sure, the height helps keep my buckets alive but for functionality it's 100% in the baffles. The holes on top are completely irrelevant as they're 300X the size of the hole on a dirt lock. It's been on my list to call you back. I know it's been awhile and I do apologize. I wanted to get a few other ducks in a row before I made the proposal. You need a dirt lock with baffles or maybe even 2 styles, 1 with and 1 without. Your every day DIY guy doesn't need it, the video you posted makes that very clear. Your detailer like myself does though. I'll duplicate the video you posted and try to convince you otherwise. Again, thank you for your response. I learned a lot this morning.
I don't think it got big difference between adding dirt lock or not Actually, I think it is a bit danger if having a small sand which cannot pass through the dirt lock, it will be on the top then
The whole point of the dirt trap is to cause a whirlpool when you push down your mitt in the bucket this ain’t gonna work because the grit guard underneath
@@HawkProDetailing I’m trying to find the best method to wash my truck without having to get a hose or my pressure washer out at all. It sounds like the one bucket method with a ton of microfiber rags or wash mitts.
Hi nick. Grit separators are not needed. A no bucket wash method and a no bucket rinseless wash method are the best methods to clean a car but detail kegs are fantastic. Your doing great videos man. Im so disappointed at how the industry has not adopted zero aka no bucket wash methods for wet or rinseless washing. High pressure rinsing the mitt or big red sponge as you go or using several mitts is the best way. Maybe cause companies want to sell buckets as their a high profit item.
Amen my friend. In my shop I have gotten into the habit of just ringing out my BRS in the sink, rinsing it quickly then ringing it out one more time...and dunking back into clean rinseless bucket. But I could see on mobile jobs how the bucket/grit separator method could feel efficient. I need to get a detail keg soon...feel like it will be a game changer for my shop
@Calin Klobuchar safer and if it's not too inconvenient...a winner. mobile it's a hassle but like I said in my shop with the big bucket sink...it's no problem
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That guy seems very humble and has a lot of real world experience. Good product review.
travis thank you for the kind words
Daves the best. He has helped me COUNTLESS HOURS with all of his crazy ideas that work so WELL! Dave is a hidden treasure for sure.
i need to hear more of this guy. this is another level of detailing
Dave is the man, you can find his channel on youtube... I'm pretty sure it's just called detail kegs
I’m sure I’m missing something but after using Mags wash plus direct to mitt, I found using a hose to clean the mitt each time quick and used no more water than a big bucket with grit guard in.
I use the one bucket and 10 mits method.
I had the same idea dave had about these exept i use chem guys cyclone dirt trap on top of the grit guard.....i ended up breaking the grit guard lol! But hey it worked for a good while. Now i just stack 2 cyclone traps
I do the same but with a Chemical Guys Cyclone on top of a Grit Guard
LSD haha same ... i just responded above. I do it opposite.
I have watched this video 3 times. It blew my brain apart how he uses the fusion and wipeout. I am going to use a Chem Guys Cyclone and grit guard as my new system as other commenters have suggested.
Heck yeah! Dave knows his stuff🤓
Sweet, my new Scrub and pump GG Doesn’t quite fit in my buckets. I used a reg guard underneath but it was sitting on the DL’s tabs. Thats a good idea to cut the outer ring off.
Ive been using both the Cyclone and grit guard. Although i have cyclone on bottom .. only to add hight and make it easier reach the guard to scrub the Media. Fuzion reminds me of P&S Pearl.. its a soap that can be diluted down to a Rinseless wash. It can be foamed as a Rinseless too. Btw in title u say to throw away grit guard... video you use both??
I stack 5 grit guards, it works great!
That is an awesome idea go dirty Dave. He should make his own grit guard combine the two into one. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Joseph thank you! I’ve definitely thought about that too 🤣
@@dave.barker that's not a bad idea is it:)
@@HawkProDetailing no sir!
I'd modify it slightly still. Just sayin haha
@@HawkProDetailing Not trying to bash you, but this video has some incorrect information and not a great explanation of how the dirt lock actually works. I have an hour long video breaking down and explaining how grit guards work and why the dirt lock is the best and the grit guard is next to useless. The explanation in this video of the baffles and small holes is very inaccurate when you look at how the water actually flows through these devices. You can see my video here and I am happy to answer any questions. ruclips.net/video/iUwJYSAEY1I/видео.html&t=
@Mr305Maxxx The grit guards are really only for keeping large particles down. Small particles that can still damage clear coat float around all through the water. SO I really would only say you need one to keep large particles down when doing something like a rinseless wash with a BRS. I really am a big fan of the multimitt method and using as many clean tools as possible vs using grit guards where there is always contaminants in the water. I would only use a grit guard now for when i do quick touch up rinseless washes with like a Big Red Sponge or similar. Very very low contaminants washes basically.
Nice to see someone else using what I call the stacker method, been utilizing this method for quite some time. When pairing the stacker method with distilled water in the rinseless solution, evvveerrrryyyy thang just sinks to the bottom of the bucket.
Awesome video! I'm a mobile detailer and I do traditional washes, but I want to convert to a rinseless setup. I already have a 100 gallon tank in a cargo van. But if I could , I would love to have my van full of detail kegs. How would you setup your van and what rinseless product would you suggest using. Could I go all rinsless with no pressure washer and no water tank? Suggestions please, thanks
I would hit dave up. Detailkegs.com and just go to the contact section. I'm sure he would be happy to guide you in the right direction!!
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Does Wipeout or fusion leave a sealer behind? Looking for something that won’t leave anything after washing so that I can apply a coating. Thx
Not sure. But if you ate applying coating it's always recommended to at the very least apply a paint prep beforehand. Honestly a 1 step polish minimum will maximize durability, of course paint prep after polish and before coating
@@HawkProDetailing Huh? 😂
Detail kegs need to upload more vids so far I like the detail keg and I'm thinking of getting on
I mean one hahaha
Go for it!!!
What would you like to see?
Dave Barker, thank you for the amazing advice and these Kick-Ass Kegs. I also want to say there is only one other rinse-less wash product that foams, and it's mckee's 37 N-914 rinse-less wash. Joe from Next Level Auto Detail introduced me to the product and it has amazing cleaning abilities and foaming abilities, but now I'm interested in trying out this Fuzion to see if it will replace n-914 for both interior and exterior. Keep safe and rock on brother.
Can you describe rinseless washing? How does it work? Thanks very much
Oh man - where do I begin! I might actually search RUclips for "yvan lacroix rinseless wash" for a tutorial. I still like an all purpose cleaner to pre soak...then rinse with a hose...then use rinseless method. Essentially rinsless means you don't need a final rinse before wax or sealant....and for lightly soiled cars you can pre soak with your rinseleas wash product ...let it encapsulate dirt ....thej use wash medium to wash...no rinsinf required ....maybe use a spray sealant as drying aid and dry the car. Boom you are done:)
Hawk Pro Detailing thanks very much!
Hawk I need an answer man.
Does wipeout or fuzion have water softeners to drop the dirt to the bottom of the bucket like ONR?
I think you're hunting for an answer here.
Go buy them both and see if they work for you and how you do things.
@@dave.barker why would we be watching your videos and advice if we wanted to waste money on R&D brotha 😂
Where can we buy the amphibian auto fiber drying towels he used in the video -dreadnaught on one side and mother fluffer on the other side? I can’t find them
Thanks very much
Autofiber.com
Hawk Pro Detailing thanks very much
What’s the point of having two types of drying sides on a drying towel? Thx
Where can we get a bucket that is round enough, or large enough for the dirt lock and grit guard? So they will sit in the bottom of the wash bucket
Thanks very much
This is literally the 3rd time I've read this today... It's on my list to add buckets to our shop.
What is crazy is that all you need is the ability to make a mold that does this for you already and call it "Dirty Guard". I am here for you anytime! I will take one for free for the genius name. I am not a fan of CG, but their grit guard "Cyclone" also seems like a good choice due to the holes being the smallest of all, so the odds of dirt coming back through are nearly impossible.
Your laugh is awesome. Stay happy and stay cool 😎
Thank you so much!
Why are ppl so hyped about using 2 buckets or more and grit guards. Doesn’t it make more sense to have a soap bucket and just use 3-4 good microfiber towels to wash a vehicle? Just flip the towel after each panel. Then there’s no chance or cross contamination in the soap bucket. Check out the video Larry over at AMMONYC has about it. That makes more sense.
I hear that! A few more towels but you ensure everything stays clean
Yes lol.
Yes ...i use the 1 bucket method with 6 wash mitts..thanks to 'dallas paint correction'...clean water all the time
@@megataurus7779 I rather use Sandro method from car craft auto detailing with no bucket. someone on Reddit already showed us how grit guards is never reliable
@@calvinwong365 come work with me for a week.
I'll show you otherwise.
Great idea. Simple but effective.
Has anyone tried this with the dirt lock and the chemical guys cyclone dirt trap?
u can just spray your wash mitt w the pressure washer. Cleans it up.
So to preface my comment I will say that I am just getting started into detailing and don't know 1/10 of what these guys do... I am not really commenting on the rinseless wash as much as regular washing but why don't more detailers use multiple wash mitts/mf vs grit guard? When I was getting into detailing I was looking at different buckets to buy and grit guards and was asking myself what is all this. I then found a pro detailer on youtube that brought up the method that I now use. I use multiple mf in my wash bucket and use both sides of it on a portion of the vehicle then throw that mf in my 'dirty' bucket. Since then I have found other pro detailers on yt using this method. Not sure why people still use the 2 bucket (or 1) with a grit guard... The dirt in your wash mitt/mf is not going to be to be totally gone just because you rubbed it against a plastic guard. Not hating on theses guys or their methods I'm just wondering why you wouldn't choose a method that seems a bit better at keeping those swirl marks to a minimum.
Cheers and thanks for the video and keep up the good work.
That's me right now...rinseless unless it's love bug season in Florida!
Genius! Dirty Dave 2020!
I like my detail guards!! Try them so much better than grit guards.
yeah man I hadn't tried them yet. Dave, of course, has found a way to make them even better:)
Awesome video bro!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks dude!!
Hey Dave , I thought I would chime in here as I just saw this video and believe there is some good information, but also some things that needed to be touched upon as they are misleading.
1) The Dirt Lock is next to impossible to break when inserting it inside your wash bucket and removing it. It's made from a special blend of industrial grade plastic that is rubber based, which means it can flex and warp itself into basically any shape. What will actually break is the cheap low-end buckets with a thin wall stock after long-repeated use. We actually found a way to improve the Dirt Lock and it now self-adjusts the pressure so it applies just the right amount of tension to prevent any bucket cracking. Video demo here 👉 ruclips.net/video/o7AvuwG2y4M/видео.html
2) By stacking something underneath the Dirt Lock, it does not make any improvements, it actually prevents the Dirt Lock from generating the proper pressure it needs to flow the water and create a seal with the bucket. With the way the water flows through the Dirt Lock, there is a constant higher pressure underneath the filter and lower pressure above. This creates a suction effect pulling the debris underneath the screen and slowly releasing the cleaner water free from particles above. Therefore, I highly do not recommend putting anything underneath the Dirt Lock bucket filter, let it do it's thing as it does it extremely well! Video demo here 👉ruclips.net/video/2LndE9cD63A/видео.html
Thank you.
So there is no problem with how low the dirt lock sits in the bottom of the bucket?
@@HawkProDetailing Hey! Thank you for the reply back, it's really appreciated. With the first generation model (The one you are using in the video) it does not have the ability to self-adjust the tension inside the bucket, which can make it a little snug on some buckets to remove... But it will not damage or break the Dirt Lock in any way, as it's pretty much bullet-proof with the type of plastic resin we use. If you leave it inside the bucket overnight, it will actually mold itself to match the size of your bucket as the plastic has a memory to it. The newer Dirt Lock model (Made after February this year) will automatically self-adjust to fit inside nearly any 3,4,5,6,7, or 8 gallon standard wash bucket to provide just the right amount of tension. Shoot me over an email: shipping@thedetailguardz.com and I will hook you up with the latest Dirt Lock model so you can test it out for yourself! :)
@@TheDetailGuardz hey! Thank you for the response, I learned something new today.
I rewatched the video. I meant the bucket, the buckets break, not the guard in the bottom. I apologize for that confusion, I was hit with a lot of questions at once. The buckets split due to the guard pushing against the sides. I've never had a dirt lock itself break. When you say "cheap" buckets though, I would say it's happened in every style of taller bucket I've used outside of a Yeti bucket. "Taller" being even some brands of "5" gallon buckets, the quotations are because I'm pretty sure they're 4 gallon buckets advertised as 5. I appreciate you guys changing the design to help with this. I'll try to find a new style dirt lock to play with.
I do believe the stacking video you posted is a little biased with having 2 grit guards. I've spent a lot time around how fluid moves in both it's natural state and when pressure is applied. I genuinely believe the baffles help with the high production I see out of my bucket. That's all I really use that grit guard for is the baffles. Sure, the height helps keep my buckets alive but for functionality it's 100% in the baffles. The holes on top are completely irrelevant as they're 300X the size of the hole on a dirt lock.
It's been on my list to call you back. I know it's been awhile and I do apologize. I wanted to get a few other ducks in a row before I made the proposal. You need a dirt lock with baffles or maybe even 2 styles, 1 with and 1 without. Your every day DIY guy doesn't need it, the video you posted makes that very clear. Your detailer like myself does though. I'll duplicate the video you posted and try to convince you otherwise.
Again, thank you for your response. I learned a lot this morning.
I don't think it got big difference between adding dirt lock or not
Actually, I think it is a bit danger if having a small sand which cannot pass through the dirt lock, it will be on the top then
The whole point of the dirt trap is to cause a whirlpool when you push down your mitt in the bucket this ain’t gonna work because the grit guard underneath
Thems is fightin words😂
It's an improvement, but I still think, multiple microfiber towels, 1 bucket. Towels never go back into clean soapy water.
Just use multiple mits and 2 buckets and never worry about grit guards
And what about the dead BUGS that don't sink to the bottom of the bucket, they just float on top.
You can always use common sense in the moment...rinse them off before dunking back in...grab them with your hand...etc etc
I literally just recorded a video about this yesterday... I'll have it up soon.
@@HawkProDetailing I’m trying to find the best method to wash my truck without having to get a hose or my pressure washer out at all. It sounds like the one bucket method with a ton of microfiber rags or wash mitts.
I like it 🔥🔥
Been doing this for years
14 buckets 84 mits 1 to 1 solution
Hi nick. Grit separators are not needed. A no bucket wash method and a no bucket rinseless wash method are the best methods to clean a car but detail kegs are fantastic. Your doing great videos man. Im so disappointed at how the industry has not adopted zero aka no bucket wash methods for wet or rinseless washing. High pressure rinsing the mitt or big red sponge as you go or using several mitts is the best way. Maybe cause companies want to sell buckets as their a high profit item.
Amen my friend. In my shop I have gotten into the habit of just ringing out my BRS in the sink, rinsing it quickly then ringing it out one more time...and dunking back into clean rinseless bucket. But I could see on mobile jobs how the bucket/grit separator method could feel efficient. I need to get a detail keg soon...feel like it will be a game changer for my shop
@Calin Klobuchar safer and if it's not too inconvenient...a winner. mobile it's a hassle but like I said in my shop with the big bucket sink...it's no problem
@Calin Klobuchar are you spraying it off with a garden hose or pressure washer nozzle? Thx
50 washes before rinsing🤦♂️
hakman239 100% 🤷🏻♂️
Lol too much selling for these RUclipsrs, I just watch these guys for entertainment.
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