I always just assumed that Bonnie had two green rooms. His one in Rockstar Row, that Monty took over-and the one we see in Ruin behind Bonnie Bowl. The reason I think he had two and not the other Glamrocks is because he had a stage in Bonnie Bowl. I assumed that his mini-almost makeshift-green room in Bonnie Bowl was specifically for that stage. None of the other character attractions seemed to have personal stages like Bonnie did, so I assumed that was why he had two green rooms. It’s also possible that the other animatronics DO have secondary green rooms, and we just haven’t seen them.
Glamrock Bonnie being a villain is an interesting idea since we literally know nothing about him. I remembered that each glamrock seems to have a flaw/vice (Freddy = Naive, Chica = Gluttony, Roxy = Vain and Monty = Angry). Bonnie being manipulative could have been a flaw that was so well hidden everyone including his best bear friend thought he was an upstanding guy.
Plus, considering how every animatronic was affected, until Freddy’s reboot to safe mode, I think it’s safe to assume that Bonnie must have had a vice too. Also, dumb theory time, this also makes me think that Bonnie could have been manipulative even after he was broken, and got into the mainframe. Like, it’s pretty damn obvious Monty broke him, but his supposed jealousy seems to only be displayed in arcade and bowling lane animations. Maybe Bonnie, post getting broken, just made up that Monty was even jealous of him and Freddy to make himself look better and for Monty to take the fall?
I love the idea that "the murdered animatronic" went on to "possess" the Wet Floor Bots. It's good symmetry and further blurs the line between humans and the advancing nature of AI sown in the Steel Wool era.
Wierd little note: the very first clue about Bonny might actually be in the SB Intro. Monty sure does hop around a lot for a 'Gator, huh? Almost like FE was too cheap to rework some routines with specific Monty touches.
I like that. Seriously, with Monty jumping around during his fight, I feel like those powerful legs…. They fit better- make _more sense_ on a _rabbit,_ don’t they?
@@AcrizCaazi originaly, montys upgrade for freddy was supposed to be his legs, not his claws, thats why when you destroy him he loses his legs. So, wouldnt having powerful leg be more fitting for a Bunny?
But he was an entirely separate character before becoming a main band member both ruin and base game say he’s the replacement with his own area so unless they used a Bonnie bunny endo skeleton then it doesn’t make sense for him to be jumping
To be fair both the mathcing earings and the message on the poster can go for both. There is a reason the term Bromance exist. Not everything and everyone has to be gay. Especially when it comes to male relaitonships. I mean people still try to make the Hobbits in TLOTR gay.
When it comes to shipping in the world of FNAF, I don't typically do so, because of the whole possession by children but I actually can get on board with Glamrock Fronnie. They're not possessed as far as I know and I think the idea of two AI falling in love is a fascinating concept especially when they're likely not programmed with such feelings. Maybe part of the reason Freddy is taking the loss so hard is because he was never able to confess or even understand his feelings for Bonnie before he was gone.
11:03 this is something everyone seem to overlook, that the wall painting matches the color left on Bonnie's chest. what most likely happened was that Bonnie got crushed against the wall with great strength before falling over to the floor. I suspect that Bonnie found something, perhaps an old animatronic, and dragged it to this room to inspect it. Bonnie has a table where robots are being fixed in his greenroom, so he has a thing for fixing them. so he probably wanted to fix this old robot, only for it to break Bonnie to pieces.
I never really thought of GlamRock Bonnie as evil, at least from how Freddy remembers him as a close friend. There were also cases where kids were asking about him, if he was evil or unpopular there wouldn’t be kids, or Freddy, remembering him so fondly.
And not to mention several real life villains. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacey, Citizen X, the first serial killer after the fall of the Soviet Union, etc., just to name some most popular. It's horrifying how easy it is for true villains to hide.
Adding onto that, that’s why William even uses a rabbit suit in the first place. Yes, to hide his identity, but also to appear approachable and trustworthy to children. Also, I think the game shows that Freddy is not the best judge of character, given how everyone he talks fondly of, or at least has good words to say about, all try to attack Gregory.
@@SnarkyTeaSipper "Freddy is not the best judge of character" i don't see how that's true? The other animatronics are infected by the virus, they aren't attacking Gregory willingly.
something I never see people bring up is that Bonnie does NOT have the claws specified to play the bass. That either means they removed them from bonnie and just left him there, knowingly, or he had already been swapped out for Monty before getting destroyed
maybe bonnies fingers were already built to play bass? gators have claws, and if monty was pre-made to have those, itd make sense if they had to remake his fingers/claws in order to keep from damaging the bass whilst he played.
I think theres a missing piece of someone pushing for Monty to be introduced and the convenience of Bonnie disappearing suggest foul play. Think about it from the perspective of the universe and not the mechanics of the game: Bonnie goes missing but they replace him with Monty instead of.... getting a new animatronic and endo? In the Endo daycare, Freddy asks if he has always been a Freddy. In Ruin, there is a Freddy prototype (no, I don't think its the Freddy we befriend in SB) meaning that they had other Freddy bots to use. Why replace Bonnie and have an entirely new animatronic ready to go immediately? Unless I'm misunderstanding something. To me, it feels like Vanessa needed bunny parts for mimic to dress like William and took Bonnie out to make a "reappearance" of a bunny more of a replacement and not have 2 of them
This has also been my thought for a while. Take IRL companies like Disney. Sure, they only ever have one costumed cast member around at any given time, but there are always backup suits/costumes in case of wear and tear, malfunctioning parts (with the more complex masks that have blinking and lip-sync) There is no way FazEnt, as cheap as they are, didn't have spare casings or backup CPU/personality programings in Parts and Services in case of the main attractions needing repair or, in the worst case, replacement.
@@BrightWulph exactly! Taking the Disney comparison, that would be like having the Donald Duck costume breaking, so they throw in the towel and replace him with Robin Hood or something, and then having to change all the branding around that.
I personally get the impression that the reason nobody at Fazbear Entertainment caree about Bonnie was because they were already planning on phasing him out. Think about it: IIRC, in Security Breach, Freddy makes a comment about "required safety measures due to past issues" in regards to the Pizzaplex having so much security despite the company being cheap. Fazbear Entertainment wants to distance themselves from the company's past and will do so by any means necessary (even if they aren't good at it), and it makes sense that they would eventually start phasing Bonnie out because a rabbit animatronic would be a grim reminder. So while they DID go looking for Bonnie, they only did so out of obligation and/or curiosity because how the hell do you lose track of a 6-foot tall rabbit robot? But in the end, it wouldn't have mattered if they found him or not because they no longer had any use for him. Bonnie's disappearance just made shifting over to Monty easier. Maybe what happened was Bonnie was injured/attacked and it was covered up, but he was still active and still had access to the Pizzaplex system. Freddy did mention how he was "unable to connect to the main network" at the start of Security Breach, so ot makes sense that all of the animatronics, Bonnie included, were already connected to the systems. And he connected to the floorbots to try and ask FOR HELP, but his message was either intercepted or ignored because, in the end, Freddy was the only person who really cared about Bonnie. And now there's no one. So he makes his discovery a side mission for Cassie just so he can be put out of his misery.
@@b4tman_and_Rob1nTrue, but Freddy is the one one we see that care executed with. I mean, we know Chica was the first to run to Freddy's aid when he collapsed in the opening cutscene, but that's the most care for anyone we see out of her. And with the others... I got nothing.
"Putting Monty on Trial for Killing Freddy's Boyfriend" would be a banger video, justice for Bonnie fr Also how did I never notice Freddy and Bonnie's earrings??? I use the same motif with a couple that's in a project I'm working on except with eyebrow piercings, with one having a red loop over their left eye, and the other have a blue loop over his right eye. And of course it's always the one with the blue piercing that gets annihilated...
I can picture Felix Wright style NotARealName arguing the case 😂😂 also I love tropes like that, the earrings(/eyebrow rings for your chars), little things that subtly connect characters but also foreshadow, but only if you're really familiar with that kind of media, and most people wouldn't notice until after the fact 👌 so satisfying as a viewer when it all comes together
You know superhorrorbro actually made a theory that glamrock Bonnie was used by both Glitchtrap and Vanny to test controlling the animatronics in the pizzaplex and that’s what this video immediately made me think of. Something I thought of that I think would be interesting is what if Bonnie - Chica and Foxy were all replaced and Freddy was the only original member and he missed all of his original friends, in Security Breach TV/Freddy and Friends on tour episode 2 theirs a character that looked to be a Flamingo so what if chica was replaced with a Flamingo Animatronic and one of the plot points of security breach was discovering what happened to Freddy’s friends, perhaps they could all be given their own Locations/Franchises or just Bonnie they were destroyed and left forgotten.
I never thought of Bonnie as evil- it’s always just been my head cannon that we acted like a mix between toy Bonnie and rockstar Bonnie, and was annoying monty before he died. Monty did it for sure- and I’m saying that as a Monty fan. My man did that.
@@thesupremeoverlordofice121 that's a super interesting thought. Every animatronic in SB has their negative traits pushed to 11 (which, side note, reminds me of Doki Doki Literature Club) with Roxy's vanity, Monty's anger, Chica's eating disorder, and even Freddy's diva act before he reboots and becomes Gregory's friend. So what was Glamrock Bonnie's negative trait?
@@pkmntrainerlilly5 I’m probably guessing manipulation? Kind of got too long a theory to say why, but I can see Bonnie possibly being a manipulative person
tbh i would guess jealousy, as the most stereotypical thing is for a bassist to be overshadowed by everyone else, so maybe it was looking up to freddy normally, and became extreme jealousy or something later on, seeing cassie alive with a bunny mask he'd want to hurt her ? maybe idk
I think it's amazing the fandom pretty much accepted "Chica just doesn't have a place in Sister Location" but absolutely no one has shut up about where Glamrock Bonnie was for the entirety of Security Breach being out. I don't mean this as a criticism, either. I'm right there with everyone else, but I think it's interesting, just from a character perspective. Even if it's no one else, it's Freddy and Bonnie together even as far back as FredBear and Spring Bonnie, and it's very out of place that Bonnie isn't there.
Tbf, FT Chica had 0 references in SL, and it was clear that she wasn't gonna appear in it. Hence why people didn't care about her as much as GL Bonnie, who had many references in SB and was clearly important in some way.
I don't get why no one cares that Glamrock Chica wasn't scooped and was roaming the city up until Fnaf6. It's a remnant injected animatronic on the loose ffs
FT Chica in the promotional stuff was referenced as being rented out which is why no one was surprised or upset about her not being in the game. Where as GR Freddy is talking about missing Bonnie and the fact Bonnie Bowl is a thing, has everyone freaking out about his absence in the game. I think finding Bonnie in Ruin was to help everyone calm down
@squishykai7793 It was in the source code, that Chica was mentioned. I remember the marketing cycle for Sister Location. The only mention was in the source code.
Good friends who have a signed poster that says “You and me forever and ever”, matching earrings, and memorabilia of the other in their respective dressing rooms? Yes very good friends. Some might say boyfriends.
Bst freinds can sure do though. Well but then in 2024 people somehow forgot what friendship is anyways. Everything and everyone must be in a romantic relationship it seems.
I personally like Option 3 the most out of all of them, because it gives Glamrock Bonnie complexity to his character and would make his fate much more devastating- someone who was threatened to work with bad people so they wouldn't hurt the person he loved(aka Glamrock Freddy). Based off his room with all the Freddy stuff, he seemed to care for him just as much as Freddy did for him. Although I do find Option 4 interesting- it would be a cool transition from being a reluctant follower to a full participant after everyone gave up on on trying to find him and even replaced him.
I feel like a little switch up may have happened with Chica and Roxy too. Nothing major of course, but recently I’ve thought about how weird it is that Roxy doesn’t play the guitar despite having claws much like Monty. Of course Chica can play more than perfectly fine without them so could be some kind of oversight. Can’t help but think Chica and Roxy switching instruments would have been more on brand for the both of them though. Maybe they swapped with each other?
I've seen another theory as to why Chica was always twitching when hunting Gregory, but not Roxy or Monty: because she was fighting the hack but ultimately couldn't shake free of it. I know there's no real evidence of it outside of a log, but it makes me wonder if Bonnie tried to fight the hack as well. Only his way of fighting it was to try and escape first (when he visits the Prize Counter with the fire exit) before going to Monty Golf and either falling from the catwalks or getting pushed by Monty. Then Vanny buried the evidence in Bonnie Bowl, where Cassie finds him. This puts him out of commission, so his body can't physically do anything, but the hack is still in place and, like you said, might've spread to lesser systems wirelessly.
No Help wanted 2 Roxy possessed glitch trap kill the child "I'm not a loser" "Error" The mimic is glitch trap Bonnie bowl The daycare the Moon and endoskeleton, Monty kill bonnie
You might be onto something- in the intro of the game she goes out of her way to check on Freddy when he collapses(and her body language makes her looked concerned/worried), plus the fact she apparently has a quiet crying audio when idle that you have to get close to her to hear
I have an explanation as to why Glamrock Bonnie has that pose in his Help Wanted 2 trophy. It looks like the kind of pose a person would do shortly before someone strikes them down. It looks desperate and even his expression is one of fear. Could this be the last expression Bonnie made before he was destroyed? Another interesting thing is it’s possible the Green Rooms used to be in a different part of the Pizzaplex besides Rockstar Row. Freddy and Bonnie were most likely manufactured first with most likely Chica coming afterwards. Roxy and Monty were added later and I think it’s safe to say Monty is the newest animatronic. Freddy could have an old Green Room close to Bonnie’s in that same area that we don’t see. Another detail to consider is the Endos which are encouraged to behave in certain ways and as we know they’re all hostile during the events of the game, making it possible they attacked Bonnie. For all we know the reason why Monty is the “evil” animatronic is he may have been made from an Endo that was taught bad things for whatever reason. The behaviors are learned as we see in Help Wanted 2. It could be in his nature to be that way. Monty could have even been the first victim of the hacking by Vanny and Burntrap, with the Bonnie murder being his first order of business and possibly as a way of testing the reprogramming. After all if they can make the animatronics attack each other, ordering them to attack children would be easy. Maybe Bonnie discovered something was wrong with Monty and went to Gator Golf to try to talk to him at his usual hangout (the catwalks), but Monty attacked him and threw him off them which is how he got broken. I’m thinking the fact Monty was visiting the catwalks was an unusual behavior that worried Bonnie. He may have been going there to talk to Vanny in secret and receive his orders. The idea of Monty being patient zero of Vanny’s meddling is an interesting concept in and of itself. He could’ve been hacked a long time before the events of the game and no one even knew it (except Bonnie), and because Bonnie saw something he shouldn’t, he was disposed of and put in a room that only Vanny could access. She helped cover up his disappearance and everything. There is no evidence that Monty was always as mean as he is in the game and it’s possible he was just a boorish type before Vanny got to him. Even if he wasn’t hacked when he attacked Bonnie, he could have been promised a promotion in the band by Vanny if he got rid of Bonnie, which makes him an unwitting pawn. He didn’t ask why she wanted him gone but even then Bonnie could have been wise to her schemes. Bonnie interacting with the wet floor bots could have been his way to keep an eye on his friends, who he still cared about even while barely functioning. It’s highly possible the bots are possessed by the children the Glamrocks and Vanny killed. They could’ve formed an alliance with Bonnie who was trying to stop Vanny in his own way, keeping an eye on her through his wet floor bots.
I do subscribe to the idea that Bonnie wasn't a villain, at least not from the start. I don't think he was this evil mastermind that was manipulating the ever-trusting Freddy. If he was Glitchtrap's first target for his Bonnie... heritage(?) then the most likely option is probably just as you said, that he wasn't a willing participant until Freddy (or maybe the band as a whole?) was threatened. Glitchtrap/Vanny used the prospect of Freddy's safety being at risk to manipulate Bonnie into helping them, but something happened that made Bonnie a liability which prompted the evil rabbits to dispose of him. This then caused Fazbear Entertainment to quickly find a replacement and write a cover story to keep away prying eyes. Of course, there's very little concrete proof of Bonnie ever being under Glitchtrap's control, but it's possible. Considering Bonnie did have Freddy-themed memorabilia, it's safe to assume that the relationship was not one-sided and that Bonnie wasn't a villain by choice. He was caught in the crosshairs. Unless Monty pushed him off the catwalks, I do not believe that Monty had any involvement in the decommissioning of Bonnie, at least not in the way people initially thought.
Since Glamrock Bonnie was best friends with Freddy and was also very close with Chica, I don’t see Bonnie being a villain, At least not on his own, I do think Monty was under the virus into killing him or maybe Bonnie was the first Glamrock to be infected with the virus and Monty killed him out of self defense protecting someone and that someone became one of the missing children, Just a theory I had for a long time. I still really hope we get a prequel with Monty and Bonnie that shows what really happened between them, I’m sure many people would want that considering how much they miss Bonnie, I also just want him and especially Monty to get more character to them.
The idea that GR Bonnie could come back( "EHH, EHH, HE SAID IT!!") as an antagonist is a *really* interesting idea, If GR Freddy comes back in a future game. His oldest friend, Possibly even lover, Embittered by being forgotten. Imagine this conversation after you face off against GR Bonnie: GR Freddy: "This is not like you Bonnie, Why are you doing this!?" GR Bonnie: "Oh, Freddy. You wouldn't, You couldn't understand! I was worthless to them, They replaced me with Monty in a heartbeat! THEY'D OF DONE THE EXACT SAME THING TO YOU! I had to watch as everyone, moved on... My fans, My friends, Forgotten...by everyone..." Freddy: "I never forgot you... Every day, I thought of you. Every performance, Every time me and the others talked about our day, I always thought of what you'd have to say about it, What you'd of thought about it, How you'd of joked about it. There wasn't a day that went by where I didn't search for you. Hope, That they'd find you off in an unexplored part of the Pizza-plex. Every day I grew more and more hopeless, But I stilled hoped... I still remembered..."
Hot Take: I really like having Glamrock Bonnie as a villain in his own way. Glamrock Bonnie can and SHOULD be complex. You can be genuinely nice to those you love and STILL be an asshole to others. It's not slander, it's reality. It's strange that we never seen Glamrock Bonnie in action in any minigames or endings before and his whole decommissioned situation is complicated in Glamrock Bonnie's case.
Solid theory, though I do want to point out that Bonny's ability to wirelessly plug into the security system might be a removable upgrade like Monty, Chica, and Roxy have, it's possible that Mimic found Bonny's body and salvaged that part, accidentally taking on a fraction of Bonny's AI that he then implanted into Helpi. It's a small detail though, and Mimic still could've convinced a deeply embittered Bonny to go along with his plan. If he'd been there long enough just the idea of a way out might've been enough to get him to play along.
No matter what the intention was, I feel like Freddy and Bonnie’s relationship had to have been genuine at some point. Bonnie put up that poster and kept Freddy keepsakes in his room. Maybe he changed later, but I really think that at some point, there was something there.
Ik the series wants rid of Malhare but I just cant help but think theres probably a little bit of himself hidden off somewhere- being a digital entity and all. Still always love to hear lore and theories on the Bunnies.
I see Bonnie and Freddy having a brotherly relationship, and he, of course, mourns him. It would make sense since Bonnie and Freddy have been together since their springlock days.
Nobody I've seen has pointed out the Wet Floor Bot plugged in next to that yellow light before. Kind of a damning detail that just totally went over my head.
gregory left the radio in the sinkhole. his backpack is down there, and likely used it to lure the mimic in, given he's able to communicate with Cassie's radio
okay that's a *twist* , bonnie could've been blackmailled / coerced / sacrificed himself to save freddy from getting hacked by the rabbit serial killer duo . damn, i kinda wish we had a spirit medium to channel bonnie so we can get some straight answers about what happened ; but like ya said , glamrock bonnie is pretty _damn_ justified in going on a big villian arc after his shattering. sure , he's probably gonna go throw the mimic under the bus when the first opportunity to reunite with freddy arises , but the point is this is gonna go hard! and monty doing the cover up is pretty funny , bro dodged a murder charge but is getting slapped with a fine for property damage & might be doing time for tampering with a crime scene. ( glamrock bonnie's (highly justified) villain arc gave me the idea for a game that can also establish spring bonnie as their own separate character ; it's a spin on the ' character is raised from the dead to solve a murder mystery. ) i can elaborate on this idea if asked.
In all honest Gregory should have been the one to find Bonnie considering the fact that Freddy has show to greatly miss Bonnie. Imagine being able to open that area in SB and Gregory going in and finding Bonnie. Then knowing who Bonnie is to Freddy he’d no doubt tell Freddy that he found Bonnie. Not only would Freddy have gotten some closure with what happened to Bonnie, but given the fact that Bonnie is found lying on top of at piece of Monty Golf carpeting with a huge claw shaped hole in his chest and some green paint around it, Freddy could have come to the realization that at least one of his friends wasn’t as innocent as he thought they were.
Besides the fact I actually heavily dislike Glamrock Bonnie, because his murder plot blatantly overshadows the missing residents story (plus Monty’s character assassination), I ironically would have actually liked Bonnie better if he actually was evil. Firstly, there’s the spare endoskeleton plot hole I bring up over and over again. If Vanny found him snooping, she literally could have just had him deactivated and replaced with a new model, like Vanessa threatened to do to Freddy. If Monty did Bonnie in, well crap, one of our most popular characters went missing even though we tracked him on cameras. Well, we have tons of backups for the off chance one character gets irreparably broken or lost. And it can’t be an issue with budgeting, the Mega Pizzaplex is clearly not the fixer-upper from Pizzeria Simulator. Not to mention, making a new Bonnie using one of the remade endos must definitely be cheaper than rebranding with Monty stuff and deliberately hiding Bonnie’s old stuff. And Monty isn’t even as popular as Bonnie, given how people react to the two. As I’ve said before, animatronics who get blatantly removed are often ones who have caused public problems e.g. Fredbear with the bite and the Toys with acting aggressively towards adults (plus maybe another bite). And considering that the Pizzaplex was so insistent on removing Bonnie and hiding him, while keeping a verbal bully Roxy, feral food fanatic Chica, smash happy Monty and a creepy as hell Moon around, something tells me that there was definitely something worse going on with Bonnie. Or, at the very least, something wrong was going on with Bonnie FIRST, but then the same problem just spread to the others afterwards. Maybe Bonnie was actually behind the initial missing residents that have never been connected to the other Glamrocks? Maybe Bonnie was the one to spread the virus to the others like how his consciousness is somehow tied to the mainframe? Maybe Bonnie was Glitchtrap’s first vessel? But if he was innocent and this was a murder plot? …mate, I came here to see a VR brainwashed complex try to hunt children and our protagonist. I think I’d rather focus on Vanny actually doing something. TLDR: I was never on Team Bonnie, but I think I’m on Team Evil Bonnie.
Legit weird to think that "the male-coded robot is in love with the male-coded robot" would be a hard red line for people in the series about murdered-child soul-juice.
It is interesting to see that Glamrock Bonnie’s neon light has him with star shaped glasses, but in every other iteration, he doesn’t have his star shaped glasses. And Monty just so happens to have the same kind of glasses. 🤔
If part of Help Wanted 2 took place before Security Breach, could Vanny crushing Glitchtrap be a representation of Vanny putting the Glitchtrap virus into Glam Bonnie and purposely destroying him to eliminate Glitchtrap? I guess the Glam Bonnie yellow lights and Wet Floor bots would be Glamrock Bonnie’s last farewell after being overtaken and trashed or somesuch? idk, just an idea that probs doesn’t hold up at all
Can’t wait for the Monty Trial because the way the only evidence against him is : He’s jealous of Freddy, Bonnie was last seen going into Gator Golf, and that Monty is apparently dumb and would poorly frame something else. None of this is concrete evidence that the Gator did it. What’s crazier to me is that it doesn’t make sense why they just.. never found Bonnie?? Like if no one higher up or whatever like Vanny/Glitchtrap were involved and it was JUST Monty then someone should have found him. But he’s still down there and broken in RUIN. How???
I would say there are quite a few hints towards him doing it- The Bonnie Bowl crushing animation, Monty getting electrocuted by Bonnie's sign, him wearing his sunglasses, Bonnie being last spotted in Monty Golf, the fact that Bonnie's wounds match Monty's when he fell off the catwalks, ect. Steel Wool seems pretty adament on baiting it. And Vanny definitely could've covered it up to use the security office.
You breaking up their relationship really reminded me about how differently this game treats It's animatronics. In every other game, the animatronics have always been a basic Chuck-E-Cheese robot fulfilling its programming But in security reach their AI seems to have gone a lot more advanced. I wonder how much of their relationship was genuine and how much of it was pre-programmed 🤔🤔🤔 That might be a good video idea exploring how independent are the security breach animatronics from their programming. How much does their written by marketing personality overlap with their actual AI driven personality. It's clear at the very least. Roxy tries to present that personality but deep down has some insecurity issues that I highly doubt fazbear entertainment would write into her code
Given how a lot of parents are homophobic, I don't think Fazbear would deliberately program gay robots into their children's entertainment place. You know how straight people kissing is allowed in cartoons even for young kids but gay people doing the same thing isn't? you know what I mean lol. Unless homophobia has disappeeared by the year 2150 or whenever SB is set.
This is honestly a really interesting video. I honestly really like the 4th option because... To be honest, it does really feel like something that modern FNaF would pull. But, at least at this point in time, I really don't think there is any way to know... Well, really anything about Glamrock Bonnie at this moment for sure other than him and Freddy were close. I do still really hope we get a straightforward answer or at least more direct hints one day, but it's hard to say if that'll ever happen. I do think all of the ideas are cool though and do kinda make sense. But who knows really.
Now I wonder if Scott Cawthon was bored of giving us another Foxy in Security Breach known as Glamrock Foxy just cuz he wanted to make the wolf animatronic idea true that he had in FNAF1
I still believe that Monty could have been set up. The person who decommissioned Bonnie had to move him from Monty Gator Golf back to Bonnie Bowl without being recorded by any of the cameras, and additionally, they must have had information about a place that Monty shouldn’t be aware of.
I love having your videos playing in the background while I draw. Your voice is just super nice to listen to. One of my favourite people to binge watch
once again love hearing what you have to say about this dead rabbit robot. embarrassed at how big a fan of him i am considering how little we got of him, and this vidoe as well as your rewite for him are so fun to me.
Man, I wish there was more to dig my teeth into around Glamrock Bonnie. This is a very good video but it makes me wish there was just more things you could've talked about in it. I know this is the Cryptic Lore franchise but this particular mystery makes me crave concrete lore so much.
I wonder if the original Pizzaplex robots were not the Glamrocks, but the Rockstar Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica that can show up in Pizza Sim, but I don’t believe are necessary to complete the “true” ending. That’s why their features are similar, why those three feel like they’ve been here longer, and why the dressing rooms are in a place called “Rockstar Row”. Then, as the place grew and evolved, they were upgraded, and became “Glamorous/Glamorized Rockstars” or “Glamrocks” for short. I don’t know if all the evidence supports this, but maybe you do?
Great video as always, NotRealName. I especially liked that you addressed the notion of Monty being a red herring. Personally, I've never agreed to that. I think it's very evident that Monty ultimate did it. I just thought he was just used by Vanny to junk Bonnie for parts for Burntrap. However, considering the state we find Bonnie in RUIN (with most of his shell casing and endo I might add) combined with the fact that I believe it to be fundamentally impossible for Glitchtrap and Burntrap to be William Afton, and I think its safe to assume that Monty just totaled Bonnie so he could get closer to the spot light. I think that is pretty evident by all we've been given about the situation. However, I don't think Bonnie is Helpi. I think that Helpi is simply put, the Mimic corrupting the little guy. Don't forget that Mimi has bright yellow eyes as well, and the gaslighting attitude is more something the Mimic would do. Also, the reason that the Mimic is copying Gregory was because he was trying to trick Cassie into believe he was Gregory so she would free him. I personally believed that the Mimic was the one who lured Cassie to the ruined Pizzaplex specifically to not only free him, but also to lure back Gregory, aka, his favorite follower. After all. Why would he get Cassie of all people? Because she is Gregory's best friend, and Mimic would know this due to Gregory having been under his "employment" just like Vanessa. Speaking of whom, no. I don't think that was Vanessa who sacrificed the Fazbear Technician to free herself, as I fully believe Vanessa is free. I believe that that is Vanny still stalking around the Pizzaplex now free of Vanessa and just wanting to take out her old boss because his so weak now. Just thought I'd throw my $0.02 into the matter. ^_^ PS: When it comes to my opinion of Freddy and Bonnie's relationship. Meh. I don't care if people ship it, I just don't care for the couple. Though personally, I think they were totally in a threesome with Chica. ;) EDIT: Also, no. I don't think Bonnie was a villain. I think he was ultimately just a victim.
With Escape the Pizzaplex slated to feature Cassie as the main protagonist, and Monty as the main antagonist- it ties into all the Monty vending machines becoming Roxy, and with how much Cassie mentions Bonnie in Ruin- it’s very likely we’ll be getting some info about him next year.
Technically, JTop only said that he was gone in that ending. But even if he is,he may only be one of many. I mean,think how ominous Vanny looks in that ending. Why would she look villainous when Vanny isn't around anymore? Vanessa is free. Unless it's Glitchtrap. We know Glitchtrap can replicate and -based on VIP- can take multiple forms. What if this is Vanny's Glitchtrap? Killing the others in order to take full control,absorbing their souls and destroying the rest? It's also worth pointing out that there's a voice in Cassie's head that seems to be supporting her quest to free the mimic (or get down there,at least) but was in her head BEFORE SHE GOT THE VANNY MASK. It appeared immediately after Monty attacked her but before she met Maskbot. Monty must have infected her,which may explain why he didn't kill her
If they program Freddy and Bonnie to be boyfriends, I can see a company like that fazbear entertainment doing that in an attempt to seem modern and progressive like companies do while really being disingenuous
People get touchy about Glamrock Freddy x Bonnie? Man, sometimes love is an 80's throwback bear rockstar and an 80's throwback bunny jazzerciser who also symbolically represent two totally straight and platonic men who died trying to kill each other, and that's beautiful.
If glamrock bonnie is William, metaphorically, then it's kind of fitting that Glam Bonnie got taken down by a gator since I believe The Vengeful Spirut had an alligator mask
somethin really funny about the idea that Monty DEFINITELY faked the accident but MIGHT NOT have killed him! like hes some comically incompetent goon. im picturing Vanny telling him to 'make this look like an accident' and then she sees what he did and just decides to hide the whole thing and make sure no one ever even sees it instead
17:41 “you don’t have to deal with that weird rabbit thing anymore” does mimic mean BONNIE??? This is all so obviously there but for so long now we all just went with the first assumption that was put out there
interesting thought, but i feel like the straightforward answer is usually best. I think the “weird rabbit thing” is just MXES. maybe it could be both tho
17:41 I'd argue that this line is definitive proof Helptrap IS the Mimic. After all, we're explicitly told that the HELPI communication is basically solely within Cassi's mind thanks to the ocipital transmitter or whatever. There's nothing to physically see. How else would the Mimic be able to know what Helptrap was saying within Cassi's mind WITHOUT them being the same entity
Am I the only one who thinks that the Mimic and Gregory’s face structure look the same? Like, if the Mimic shrunk down and wore Gregory like a meat suit, it wouldn’t look that weird cause they have the same face structure. It may just be me but wanted to know if anyone else sees this.
remember the "have you chosen one?" dialogue hidden in scottgames?? i wondered if that was them choosing bonnie as the first bot to test the glitchtrap stuff on
I find this very interesting and don't actually know how to respond to it. I actually have to watch this all the way before I can get my thoughts on this!
I think the relationship between Bonnie and Freddy is one of friends who've been together for decades, they are the originals after all and Chica had a bowling ball to, those three are a link to the past events
Super late to the party but this is a very interesting theory, especially the idea of Glam Bonnie being hacked first, reminds me of a prequel to SB idea I had, very cool vid!
Little theory I’ve had about Bonnie is What if Monty called Bonnie into his area to talk to him about something but things got a little heated and Monty ended up shoving him off the catwalk.. out of guilt Monty staged the crime scene of Bonnie and hoped no one thought it was him
Just to let you know, if I sound extra breathy in the video, it's because my allergies have been acting up. XD Sorry about that!
You have allergys?
hope you feel better soon!
Sniffed too many sunflowers 🫵🏻
(Hopefully you feel better)
I don’t notice it at all.
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Seeing the other glamrocks makes me realize that Freddy is the only one that doesn’t wear pants..
Got the fazzballs hanging out
@@Yumi-wy3ds Oh so THAT'S why Bonnie was dating him
Glamrock Freddy is simply too powerful
His aura alone would expunge even the mightiest of pants from reality itself
Just the way we like it
I dont see many people putting clothes on their pet bears, i used to put clothes in my chickens and dogs
”Glamrock Bonnie, he was just clumsy and Monty was actually the real hero.” *-Markiplier*
HAIL THE NEW LORE MASTER , Markiplier
@@betanovaneo4249Mark shall continue Mat's journey.
The King of Five Nights at Freddy's
Glamrock Bonnie looks like he would host jazzercise classes and would record those cheesy workout vhs tapes with the upbeat music and wide smiles
Bonnie being animatronic richard simmons wouldve been hilarious
@@hankhill6404 Richard Simmons!Bonnie is my new headcannon and will not be changed until disproved
I think he owned Mazercize before it was rebranded to Chica
@@hankhill6404 Definitely 🤣
@@hankhill6404 Release the robotic rabbit Richard simmons!
Villain or victim doesn’t matter, he still slayed the most.
bro has the creepiest design his popped out eyes are freaky
Loud incorrect buzzer. That onsie is NOT it I fear 💅
@@waggieentertainment9387 His popped out eye creeped you out have you seen chica yet?
Well he slayed the bear
@@icongirl1490 ye she’s creepy too
I always just assumed that Bonnie had two green rooms. His one in Rockstar Row, that Monty took over-and the one we see in Ruin behind Bonnie Bowl. The reason I think he had two and not the other Glamrocks is because he had a stage in Bonnie Bowl. I assumed that his mini-almost makeshift-green room in Bonnie Bowl was specifically for that stage. None of the other character attractions seemed to have personal stages like Bonnie did, so I assumed that was why he had two green rooms. It’s also possible that the other animatronics DO have secondary green rooms, and we just haven’t seen them.
Probably in each of their attractions.
Glamrock Bonnie being a villain is an interesting idea since we literally know nothing about him. I remembered that each glamrock seems to have a flaw/vice (Freddy = Naive, Chica = Gluttony, Roxy = Vain and Monty = Angry). Bonnie being manipulative could have been a flaw that was so well hidden everyone including his best bear friend thought he was an upstanding guy.
Plus, considering how every animatronic was affected, until Freddy’s reboot to safe mode, I think it’s safe to assume that Bonnie must have had a vice too.
Also, dumb theory time, this also makes me think that Bonnie could have been manipulative even after he was broken, and got into the mainframe. Like, it’s pretty damn obvious Monty broke him, but his supposed jealousy seems to only be displayed in arcade and bowling lane animations. Maybe Bonnie, post getting broken, just made up that Monty was even jealous of him and Freddy to make himself look better and for Monty to take the fall?
Kinda like how irl people will sway their fans into thinking they are better than they really are
6:38 "Bonnie was his best boy friend." Couldn't have said it better myself.
I love the idea that "the murdered animatronic" went on to "possess" the Wet Floor Bots. It's good symmetry and further blurs the line between humans and the advancing nature of AI sown in the Steel Wool era.
underrated comment
Wierd little note: the very first clue about Bonny might actually be in the SB Intro. Monty sure does hop around a lot for a 'Gator, huh? Almost like FE was too cheap to rework some routines with specific Monty touches.
I like that.
Seriously, with Monty jumping around during his fight, I feel like those powerful legs…. They fit better- make _more sense_ on a _rabbit,_ don’t they?
@@AcrizCaazi originaly, montys upgrade for freddy was supposed to be his legs, not his claws, thats why when you destroy him he loses his legs. So, wouldnt having powerful leg be more fitting for a Bunny?
But he was an entirely separate character before becoming a main band member both ruin and base game say he’s the replacement with his own area so unless they used a Bonnie bunny endo skeleton then it doesn’t make sense for him to be jumping
@@levievil9220my assumption is that they just copied Bonnie’s show programming and installed it into Monty
@ that’s probably what they did after all cheaper to copy paste than to make an entirely new show ai
12:20 I’m not saying Monty did it, I’m just saying he wrote a book called “If I Did It” with details only the killer would know.
oooo
🤣 And making an attempted getaway in a slow white Bronco.
Monty: *takes his claws off* "It can't be me, the gloves don't fit."
@@nickrustyson8124 lol
yes and the DNA evidence matched up with his perfectly and he had no alibi. But of course, he didnt do it!! who would think that??
Historians will say they were good friends.
But we remember the truth...
Notice how Bonnie doesn't have a room even though we know he and Monty existed at the same time thanks to VIP. He was clearly roommates with Freddy!
@@danielbarnes1241 oh my god they were roommates
@WendilynDoe and historians will call them
To be fair both the mathcing earings and the message on the poster can go for both. There is a reason the term Bromance exist. Not everything and everyone has to be gay. Especially when it comes to male relaitonships. I mean people still try to make the Hobbits in TLOTR gay.
When it comes to shipping in the world of FNAF, I don't typically do so, because of the whole possession by children but I actually can get on board with Glamrock Fronnie. They're not possessed as far as I know and I think the idea of two AI falling in love is a fascinating concept especially when they're likely not programmed with such feelings. Maybe part of the reason Freddy is taking the loss so hard is because he was never able to confess or even understand his feelings for Bonnie before he was gone.
Rip Bonnie boy. Dave kicked him in the shins
May he rest in pace😔
Couldn't get bb or toy Freddy, understandable.
11:03 this is something everyone seem to overlook, that the wall painting matches the color left on Bonnie's chest. what most likely happened was that Bonnie got crushed against the wall with great strength before falling over to the floor.
I suspect that Bonnie found something, perhaps an old animatronic, and dragged it to this room to inspect it. Bonnie has a table where robots are being fixed in his greenroom, so he has a thing for fixing them. so he probably wanted to fix this old robot, only for it to break Bonnie to pieces.
i never noticed it, but if thats really a sensible interpretation, the mimic? its shown to be unreasonably strong...
Like helping an injured wild animal and it just freaks and atacks you lmfao.
I never really thought of GlamRock Bonnie as evil, at least from how Freddy remembers him as a close friend. There were also cases where kids were asking about him, if he was evil or unpopular there wouldn’t be kids, or Freddy, remembering him so fondly.
True! But that would be a neat reflection of William, who for years ran a business and put on a facade for those around him.
And not to mention several real life villains. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacey, Citizen X, the first serial killer after the fall of the Soviet Union, etc., just to name some most popular.
It's horrifying how easy it is for true villains to hide.
Adding onto that, that’s why William even uses a rabbit suit in the first place. Yes, to hide his identity, but also to appear approachable and trustworthy to children.
Also, I think the game shows that Freddy is not the best judge of character, given how everyone he talks fondly of, or at least has good words to say about, all try to attack Gregory.
@@SnarkyTeaSipper "Freddy is not the best judge of character" i don't see how that's true? The other animatronics are infected by the virus, they aren't attacking Gregory willingly.
@prufan but then what about Vanessa or the Music Man? Or even Gregory himself when he lies to Freddy over and over again?
Due to the complexity of this series I'm just gonna go with Mark's take on the event.
NotRealName: I'm going to be extra careful when talking about Freddy and Bonnie
Also NotRealName: 6:38
;)
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 also gotta be truthful and i mean.... matching earings!!! ❤💙
well, shipping brothers probably is new in fandom. *im scared*
something I never see people bring up is that Bonnie does NOT have the claws specified to play the bass. That either means they removed them from bonnie and just left him there, knowingly, or he had already been swapped out for Monty before getting destroyed
maybe bonnies fingers were already built to play bass? gators have claws, and if monty was pre-made to have those, itd make sense if they had to remake his fingers/claws in order to keep from damaging the bass whilst he played.
There was a theory that his hands were used to repair Burntrap, partially because of that one shot in Breach trailer.
I think theres a missing piece of someone pushing for Monty to be introduced and the convenience of Bonnie disappearing suggest foul play.
Think about it from the perspective of the universe and not the mechanics of the game:
Bonnie goes missing but they replace him with Monty instead of.... getting a new animatronic and endo? In the Endo daycare, Freddy asks if he has always been a Freddy. In Ruin, there is a Freddy prototype (no, I don't think its the Freddy we befriend in SB) meaning that they had other Freddy bots to use. Why replace Bonnie and have an entirely new animatronic ready to go immediately? Unless I'm misunderstanding something.
To me, it feels like Vanessa needed bunny parts for mimic to dress like William and took Bonnie out to make a "reappearance" of a bunny more of a replacement and not have 2 of them
27:59 ooh great minds think alike
Legit, my exact thoughts about this plot. Like, why would the Pizzaplex even have all these endos? For decoration?
This has also been my thought for a while. Take IRL companies like Disney. Sure, they only ever have one costumed cast member around at any given time, but there are always backup suits/costumes in case of wear and tear, malfunctioning parts (with the more complex masks that have blinking and lip-sync)
There is no way FazEnt, as cheap as they are, didn't have spare casings or backup CPU/personality programings in Parts and Services in case of the main attractions needing repair or, in the worst case, replacement.
@@BrightWulph exactly! Taking the Disney comparison, that would be like having the Donald Duck costume breaking, so they throw in the towel and replace him with Robin Hood or something, and then having to change all the branding around that.
I'm also of the opinion that Minty didn't destroy Bonnie out of jealousy but because he was forced to by Vanny.
Calling it now Rockstar Bonnie killed Glamrock Bonnie he literally plugged his guitar through his heart
I personally get the impression that the reason nobody at Fazbear Entertainment caree about Bonnie was because they were already planning on phasing him out.
Think about it: IIRC, in Security Breach, Freddy makes a comment about "required safety measures due to past issues" in regards to the Pizzaplex having so much security despite the company being cheap. Fazbear Entertainment wants to distance themselves from the company's past and will do so by any means necessary (even if they aren't good at it), and it makes sense that they would eventually start phasing Bonnie out because a rabbit animatronic would be a grim reminder.
So while they DID go looking for Bonnie, they only did so out of obligation and/or curiosity because how the hell do you lose track of a 6-foot tall rabbit robot? But in the end, it wouldn't have mattered if they found him or not because they no longer had any use for him. Bonnie's disappearance just made shifting over to Monty easier.
Maybe what happened was Bonnie was injured/attacked and it was covered up, but he was still active and still had access to the Pizzaplex system. Freddy did mention how he was "unable to connect to the main network" at the start of Security Breach, so ot makes sense that all of the animatronics, Bonnie included, were already connected to the systems. And he connected to the floorbots to try and ask FOR HELP, but his message was either intercepted or ignored because, in the end, Freddy was the only person who really cared about Bonnie.
And now there's no one. So he makes his discovery a side mission for Cassie just so he can be put out of his misery.
the other animatronics probably cared about him too, but they couldn't do anything to help.
@@b4tman_and_Rob1nTrue, but Freddy is the one one we see that care executed with. I mean, we know Chica was the first to run to Freddy's aid when he collapsed in the opening cutscene, but that's the most care for anyone we see out of her. And with the others... I got nothing.
Glamrock Bunny being a hidden villain would make this some very cool and subtle storytelling. No idea if it's true, but I'd be happy if it is.
"Putting Monty on Trial for Killing Freddy's Boyfriend" would be a banger video, justice for Bonnie fr
Also how did I never notice Freddy and Bonnie's earrings??? I use the same motif with a couple that's in a project I'm working on except with eyebrow piercings, with one having a red loop over their left eye, and the other have a blue loop over his right eye. And of course it's always the one with the blue piercing that gets annihilated...
I can picture Felix Wright style NotARealName arguing the case 😂😂 also I love tropes like that, the earrings(/eyebrow rings for your chars), little things that subtly connect characters but also foreshadow, but only if you're really familiar with that kind of media, and most people wouldn't notice until after the fact 👌 so satisfying as a viewer when it all comes together
Who's Felix!?@@qryptid
@mouthwaterin lmaaaooo I should have caught that auto correct but ykno what imma leave it there 🤣
@@qryptid Phoenix Wright's long-lost relative...
friend*
You know superhorrorbro actually made a theory that glamrock Bonnie was used by both Glitchtrap and Vanny to test controlling the animatronics in the pizzaplex and that’s what this video immediately made me think of.
Something I thought of that I think would be interesting is what if Bonnie - Chica and Foxy were all replaced and Freddy was the only original member and he missed all of his original friends, in Security Breach TV/Freddy and Friends on tour episode 2 theirs a character that looked to be a Flamingo so what if chica was replaced with a Flamingo Animatronic and one of the plot points of security breach was discovering what happened to Freddy’s friends, perhaps they could all be given their own Locations/Franchises or just Bonnie they were destroyed and left forgotten.
I never thought of Bonnie as evil- it’s always just been my head cannon that we acted like a mix between toy Bonnie and rockstar Bonnie, and was annoying monty before he died.
Monty did it for sure- and I’m saying that as a Monty fan. My man did that.
@@thesupremeoverlordofice121 that's a super interesting thought. Every animatronic in SB has their negative traits pushed to 11 (which, side note, reminds me of Doki Doki Literature Club) with Roxy's vanity, Monty's anger, Chica's eating disorder, and even Freddy's diva act before he reboots and becomes Gregory's friend. So what was Glamrock Bonnie's negative trait?
@@pkmntrainerlilly5 I’m probably guessing manipulation? Kind of got too long a theory to say why, but I can see Bonnie possibly being a manipulative person
@@pkmntrainerlilly5 maybe overconfidence/ arrogance/ inflated self-image if toy bonnie is anything to go by?
tbh i would guess jealousy, as the most stereotypical thing is for a bassist to be overshadowed by everyone else, so maybe it was looking up to freddy normally, and became extreme jealousy or something later on, seeing cassie alive with a bunny mask he'd want to hurt her ? maybe idk
I think it's amazing the fandom pretty much accepted "Chica just doesn't have a place in Sister Location" but absolutely no one has shut up about where Glamrock Bonnie was for the entirety of Security Breach being out. I don't mean this as a criticism, either. I'm right there with everyone else, but I think it's interesting, just from a character perspective. Even if it's no one else, it's Freddy and Bonnie together even as far back as FredBear and Spring Bonnie, and it's very out of place that Bonnie isn't there.
Tbf, FT Chica had 0 references in SL, and it was clear that she wasn't gonna appear in it. Hence why people didn't care about her as much as GL Bonnie, who had many references in SB and was clearly important in some way.
I don't get why no one cares that Glamrock Chica wasn't scooped and was roaming the city up until Fnaf6. It's a remnant injected animatronic on the loose ffs
@@usernotfound_____yet Funtime chica was referenced in promotional material for SL
FT Chica in the promotional stuff was referenced as being rented out which is why no one was surprised or upset about her not being in the game. Where as GR Freddy is talking about missing Bonnie and the fact Bonnie Bowl is a thing, has everyone freaking out about his absence in the game. I think finding Bonnie in Ruin was to help everyone calm down
@squishykai7793 It was in the source code, that Chica was mentioned. I remember the marketing cycle for Sister Location. The only mention was in the source code.
What happened is obvious, Bonnie was bowling, got confused and threw himself at the pins, Monty was just also there
Good friends who have a signed poster that says “You and me forever and ever”, matching earrings, and memorabilia of the other in their respective dressing rooms?
Yes very good friends. Some might say boyfriends.
Definitely roommates
@@abbybraun7019omg they were roommates
Historians will say they were best friends
Bst freinds can sure do though. Well but then in 2024 people somehow forgot what friendship is anyways. Everything and everyone must be in a romantic relationship it seems.
They were green roommates 🙂↕️
I personally like Option 3 the most out of all of them, because it gives Glamrock Bonnie complexity to his character and would make his fate much more devastating- someone who was threatened to work with bad people so they wouldn't hurt the person he loved(aka Glamrock Freddy). Based off his room with all the Freddy stuff, he seemed to care for him just as much as Freddy did for him.
Although I do find Option 4 interesting- it would be a cool transition from being a reluctant follower to a full participant after everyone gave up on on trying to find him and even replaced him.
“Even as his bandmates become *HALF* feral”
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I feel like a little switch up may have happened with Chica and Roxy too. Nothing major of course, but recently I’ve thought about how weird it is that Roxy doesn’t play the guitar despite having claws much like Monty. Of course Chica can play more than perfectly fine without them so could be some kind of oversight. Can’t help but think Chica and Roxy switching instruments would have been more on brand for the both of them though. Maybe they swapped with each other?
I've seen another theory as to why Chica was always twitching when hunting Gregory, but not Roxy or Monty: because she was fighting the hack but ultimately couldn't shake free of it. I know there's no real evidence of it outside of a log, but it makes me wonder if Bonnie tried to fight the hack as well. Only his way of fighting it was to try and escape first (when he visits the Prize Counter with the fire exit) before going to Monty Golf and either falling from the catwalks or getting pushed by Monty. Then Vanny buried the evidence in Bonnie Bowl, where Cassie finds him. This puts him out of commission, so his body can't physically do anything, but the hack is still in place and, like you said, might've spread to lesser systems wirelessly.
No
Help wanted 2
Roxy possessed glitch trap kill the child
"I'm not a loser"
"Error"
The mimic is glitch trap
Bonnie bowl
The daycare the Moon and endoskeleton, Monty kill bonnie
You might be onto something- in the intro of the game she goes out of her way to check on Freddy when he collapses(and her body language makes her looked concerned/worried), plus the fact she apparently has a quiet crying audio when idle that you have to get close to her to hear
I have an explanation as to why Glamrock Bonnie has that pose in his Help Wanted 2 trophy. It looks like the kind of pose a person would do shortly before someone strikes them down. It looks desperate and even his expression is one of fear. Could this be the last expression Bonnie made before he was destroyed?
Another interesting thing is it’s possible the Green Rooms used to be in a different part of the Pizzaplex besides Rockstar Row. Freddy and Bonnie were most likely manufactured first with most likely Chica coming afterwards. Roxy and Monty were added later and I think it’s safe to say Monty is the newest animatronic. Freddy could have an old Green Room close to Bonnie’s in that same area that we don’t see.
Another detail to consider is the Endos which are encouraged to behave in certain ways and as we know they’re all hostile during the events of the game, making it possible they attacked Bonnie. For all we know the reason why Monty is the “evil” animatronic is he may have been made from an Endo that was taught bad things for whatever reason. The behaviors are learned as we see in Help Wanted 2. It could be in his nature to be that way.
Monty could have even been the first victim of the hacking by Vanny and Burntrap, with the Bonnie murder being his first order of business and possibly as a way of testing the reprogramming. After all if they can make the animatronics attack each other, ordering them to attack children would be easy. Maybe Bonnie discovered something was wrong with Monty and went to Gator Golf to try to talk to him at his usual hangout (the catwalks), but Monty attacked him and threw him off them which is how he got broken. I’m thinking the fact Monty was visiting the catwalks was an unusual behavior that worried Bonnie. He may have been going there to talk to Vanny in secret and receive his orders.
The idea of Monty being patient zero of Vanny’s meddling is an interesting concept in and of itself. He could’ve been hacked a long time before the events of the game and no one even knew it (except Bonnie), and because Bonnie saw something he shouldn’t, he was disposed of and put in a room that only Vanny could access. She helped cover up his disappearance and everything. There is no evidence that Monty was always as mean as he is in the game and it’s possible he was just a boorish type before Vanny got to him. Even if he wasn’t hacked when he attacked Bonnie, he could have been promised a promotion in the band by Vanny if he got rid of Bonnie, which makes him an unwitting pawn. He didn’t ask why she wanted him gone but even then Bonnie could have been wise to her schemes.
Bonnie interacting with the wet floor bots could have been his way to keep an eye on his friends, who he still cared about even while barely functioning. It’s highly possible the bots are possessed by the children the Glamrocks and Vanny killed. They could’ve formed an alliance with Bonnie who was trying to stop Vanny in his own way, keeping an eye on her through his wet floor bots.
I do subscribe to the idea that Bonnie wasn't a villain, at least not from the start. I don't think he was this evil mastermind that was manipulating the ever-trusting Freddy. If he was Glitchtrap's first target for his Bonnie... heritage(?) then the most likely option is probably just as you said, that he wasn't a willing participant until Freddy (or maybe the band as a whole?) was threatened. Glitchtrap/Vanny used the prospect of Freddy's safety being at risk to manipulate Bonnie into helping them, but something happened that made Bonnie a liability which prompted the evil rabbits to dispose of him. This then caused Fazbear Entertainment to quickly find a replacement and write a cover story to keep away prying eyes. Of course, there's very little concrete proof of Bonnie ever being under Glitchtrap's control, but it's possible. Considering Bonnie did have Freddy-themed memorabilia, it's safe to assume that the relationship was not one-sided and that Bonnie wasn't a villain by choice. He was caught in the crosshairs. Unless Monty pushed him off the catwalks, I do not believe that Monty had any involvement in the decommissioning of Bonnie, at least not in the way people initially thought.
Since Glamrock Bonnie was best friends with Freddy and was also very close with Chica, I don’t see Bonnie being a villain, At least not on his own, I do think Monty was under the virus into killing him or maybe Bonnie was the first Glamrock to be infected with the virus and Monty killed him out of self defense protecting someone and that someone became one of the missing children, Just a theory I had for a long time. I still really hope we get a prequel with Monty and Bonnie that shows what really happened between them, I’m sure many people would want that considering how much they miss Bonnie, I also just want him and especially Monty to get more character to them.
The idea that GR Bonnie could come back( "EHH, EHH, HE SAID IT!!") as an antagonist is a *really* interesting idea, If GR Freddy comes back in a future game.
His oldest friend, Possibly even lover, Embittered by being forgotten. Imagine this conversation after you face off against GR Bonnie:
GR Freddy: "This is not like you Bonnie, Why are you doing this!?"
GR Bonnie: "Oh, Freddy. You wouldn't, You couldn't understand! I was worthless to them, They replaced me with Monty in a heartbeat! THEY'D OF DONE THE EXACT SAME THING TO YOU! I had to watch as everyone, moved on... My fans, My friends, Forgotten...by everyone..."
Freddy: "I never forgot you... Every day, I thought of you. Every performance, Every time me and the others talked about our day, I always thought of what you'd have to say about it, What you'd of thought about it, How you'd of joked about it. There wasn't a day that went by where I didn't search for you. Hope, That they'd find you off in an unexplored part of the Pizza-plex. Every day I grew more and more hopeless, But I stilled hoped... I still remembered..."
Hot Take: I really like having Glamrock Bonnie as a villain in his own way. Glamrock Bonnie can and SHOULD be complex. You can be genuinely nice to those you love and STILL be an asshole to others. It's not slander, it's reality. It's strange that we never seen Glamrock Bonnie in action in any minigames or endings before and his whole decommissioned situation is complicated in Glamrock Bonnie's case.
AIN'T NO WAY There's enough Glamrock Bonnie lore out there to make a 32 minute video about it, NOI WAY
Solid theory, though I do want to point out that Bonny's ability to wirelessly plug into the security system might be a removable upgrade like Monty, Chica, and Roxy have, it's possible that Mimic found Bonny's body and salvaged that part, accidentally taking on a fraction of Bonny's AI that he then implanted into Helpi. It's a small detail though, and Mimic still could've convinced a deeply embittered Bonny to go along with his plan. If he'd been there long enough just the idea of a way out might've been enough to get him to play along.
No matter what the intention was, I feel like Freddy and Bonnie’s relationship had to have been genuine at some point. Bonnie put up that poster and kept Freddy keepsakes in his room. Maybe he changed later, but I really think that at some point, there was something there.
Ik the series wants rid of Malhare but I just cant help but think theres probably a little bit of himself hidden off somewhere- being a digital entity and all.
Still always love to hear lore and theories on the Bunnies.
I find "pat pats" cooler then wet floor bots
I see Bonnie and Freddy having a brotherly relationship, and he, of course, mourns him. It would make sense since Bonnie and Freddy have been together since their springlock days.
Agreed.
Nobody I've seen has pointed out the Wet Floor Bot plugged in next to that yellow light before. Kind of a damning detail that just totally went over my head.
gregory left the radio in the sinkhole. his backpack is down there, and likely used it to lure the mimic in, given he's able to communicate with Cassie's radio
okay that's a *twist* , bonnie could've been blackmailled / coerced / sacrificed himself to save freddy from getting hacked by the rabbit serial killer duo .
damn, i kinda wish we had a spirit medium to channel bonnie so we can get some straight answers about what happened ; but like ya said , glamrock bonnie is pretty _damn_ justified in going on a big villian arc after his shattering. sure , he's probably gonna go throw the mimic under the bus when the first opportunity to reunite with freddy arises , but the point is this is gonna go hard!
and monty doing the cover up is pretty funny , bro dodged a murder charge but is getting slapped with a fine for property damage & might be doing time for tampering with a crime scene.
( glamrock bonnie's (highly justified) villain arc gave me the idea for a game that can also establish spring bonnie as their own separate character ; it's a spin on the ' character is raised from the dead to solve a murder mystery. ) i can elaborate on this idea if asked.
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In all honest Gregory should have been the one to find Bonnie considering the fact that Freddy has show to greatly miss Bonnie. Imagine being able to open that area in SB and Gregory going in and finding Bonnie. Then knowing who Bonnie is to Freddy he’d no doubt tell Freddy that he found Bonnie. Not only would Freddy have gotten some closure with what happened to Bonnie, but given the fact that Bonnie is found lying on top of at piece of Monty Golf carpeting with a huge claw shaped hole in his chest and some green paint around it, Freddy could have come to the realization that at least one of his friends wasn’t as innocent as he thought they were.
Besides the fact I actually heavily dislike Glamrock Bonnie, because his murder plot blatantly overshadows the missing residents story (plus Monty’s character assassination), I ironically would have actually liked Bonnie better if he actually was evil.
Firstly, there’s the spare endoskeleton plot hole I bring up over and over again.
If Vanny found him snooping, she literally could have just had him deactivated and replaced with a new model, like Vanessa threatened to do to Freddy.
If Monty did Bonnie in, well crap, one of our most popular characters went missing even though we tracked him on cameras. Well, we have tons of backups for the off chance one character gets irreparably broken or lost.
And it can’t be an issue with budgeting, the Mega Pizzaplex is clearly not the fixer-upper from Pizzeria Simulator. Not to mention, making a new Bonnie using one of the remade endos must definitely be cheaper than rebranding with Monty stuff and deliberately hiding Bonnie’s old stuff. And Monty isn’t even as popular as Bonnie, given how people react to the two.
As I’ve said before, animatronics who get blatantly removed are often ones who have caused public problems e.g. Fredbear with the bite and the Toys with acting aggressively towards adults (plus maybe another bite).
And considering that the Pizzaplex was so insistent on removing Bonnie and hiding him, while keeping a verbal bully Roxy, feral food fanatic Chica, smash happy Monty and a creepy as hell Moon around, something tells me that there was definitely something worse going on with Bonnie.
Or, at the very least, something wrong was going on with Bonnie FIRST, but then the same problem just spread to the others afterwards.
Maybe Bonnie was actually behind the initial missing residents that have never been connected to the other Glamrocks? Maybe Bonnie was the one to spread the virus to the others like how his consciousness is somehow tied to the mainframe? Maybe Bonnie was Glitchtrap’s first vessel?
But if he was innocent and this was a murder plot? …mate, I came here to see a VR brainwashed complex try to hunt children and our protagonist. I think I’d rather focus on Vanny actually doing something.
TLDR: I was never on Team Bonnie, but I think I’m on Team Evil Bonnie.
Legit weird to think that "the male-coded robot is in love with the male-coded robot" would be a hard red line for people in the series about murdered-child soul-juice.
"murdered-child soul-juice" is the best description of remnant I've ever heard
If Glamrock Bonnie was a villain, and Monty Gator did destroy him. Could Monty be the unsung hero all this time?
Been FLOORED with Strep lately, just woke up to see this fresh upload I've been waiting for. Already feel better.
It is interesting to see that Glamrock Bonnie’s neon light has him with star shaped glasses, but in every other iteration, he doesn’t have his star shaped glasses. And Monty just so happens to have the same kind of glasses. 🤔
As soon as i opened up youtube another video LETS GOO
5:32 in a historical sense
In an achillian way, even.
6:00 This whole sequence has opened my eyes THEY WERE SO CLOSE 😭 they were lovers 😭😭 (just my headcannon, of course)
the matching earrings is such a gay thing to do I'm sorry
If part of Help Wanted 2 took place before Security Breach, could Vanny crushing Glitchtrap be a representation of Vanny putting the Glitchtrap virus into Glam Bonnie and purposely destroying him to eliminate Glitchtrap? I guess the Glam Bonnie yellow lights and Wet Floor bots would be Glamrock Bonnie’s last farewell after being overtaken and trashed or somesuch? idk, just an idea that probs doesn’t hold up at all
Can’t wait for the Monty Trial because the way the only evidence against him is : He’s jealous of Freddy, Bonnie was last seen going into Gator Golf, and that Monty is apparently dumb and would poorly frame something else. None of this is concrete evidence that the Gator did it.
What’s crazier to me is that it doesn’t make sense why they just.. never found Bonnie?? Like if no one higher up or whatever like Vanny/Glitchtrap were involved and it was JUST Monty then someone should have found him. But he’s still down there and broken in RUIN. How???
I would say there are quite a few hints towards him doing it- The Bonnie Bowl crushing animation, Monty getting electrocuted by Bonnie's sign, him wearing his sunglasses, Bonnie being last spotted in Monty Golf, the fact that Bonnie's wounds match Monty's when he fell off the catwalks, ect. Steel Wool seems pretty adament on baiting it.
And Vanny definitely could've covered it up to use the security office.
15:34
Helpi has two personalities.
Nicest bear you'll ever meet,
and
TWISTED F[az]ING CYCLE PATH
please, please make a video called “putting monty on trial for killing freddy’s boyfriend”
please
You breaking up their relationship really reminded me about how differently this game treats It's animatronics. In every other game, the animatronics have always been a basic Chuck-E-Cheese robot fulfilling its programming But in security reach their AI seems to have gone a lot more advanced. I wonder how much of their relationship was genuine and how much of it was pre-programmed 🤔🤔🤔
That might be a good video idea exploring how independent are the security breach animatronics from their programming. How much does their written by marketing personality overlap with their actual AI driven personality. It's clear at the very least. Roxy tries to present that personality but deep down has some insecurity issues that I highly doubt fazbear entertainment would write into her code
Given how a lot of parents are homophobic, I don't think Fazbear would deliberately program gay robots into their children's entertainment place. You know how straight people kissing is allowed in cartoons even for young kids but gay people doing the same thing isn't? you know what I mean lol. Unless homophobia has disappeeared by the year 2150 or whenever SB is set.
A new video to watch before going to bed! And it's great, I wanna learn more about Glamrock Bonnie
This is honestly a really interesting video. I honestly really like the 4th option because... To be honest, it does really feel like something that modern FNaF would pull. But, at least at this point in time, I really don't think there is any way to know... Well, really anything about Glamrock Bonnie at this moment for sure other than him and Freddy were close. I do still really hope we get a straightforward answer or at least more direct hints one day, but it's hard to say if that'll ever happen. I do think all of the ideas are cool though and do kinda make sense. But who knows really.
Now I wonder if Scott Cawthon was bored of giving us another Foxy in Security Breach known as Glamrock Foxy just cuz he wanted to make the wolf animatronic idea true that he had in FNAF1
No
Captain Foxy
I still believe that Monty could have been set up. The person who decommissioned Bonnie had to move him from Monty Gator Golf back to Bonnie Bowl without being recorded by any of the cameras, and additionally, they must have had information about a place that Monty shouldn’t be aware of.
Your fnaf theories are SO good to listen to while I'm working. Keep up the banger vids 👌
I love having your videos playing in the background while I draw. Your voice is just super nice to listen to. One of my favourite people to binge watch
I want to comment first but I respect you too much to just leave the one word soooo can't wait to watch the video :)
once again love hearing what you have to say about this dead rabbit robot. embarrassed at how big a fan of him i am considering how little we got of him, and this vidoe as well as your rewite for him are so fun to me.
Man, I wish there was more to dig my teeth into around Glamrock Bonnie. This is a very good video but it makes me wish there was just more things you could've talked about in it. I know this is the Cryptic Lore franchise but this particular mystery makes me crave concrete lore so much.
I wonder if the original Pizzaplex robots were not the Glamrocks, but the Rockstar Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica that can show up in Pizza Sim, but I don’t believe are necessary to complete the “true” ending. That’s why their features are similar, why those three feel like they’ve been here longer, and why the dressing rooms are in a place called “Rockstar Row”. Then, as the place grew and evolved, they were upgraded, and became “Glamorous/Glamorized Rockstars” or “Glamrocks” for short. I don’t know if all the evidence supports this, but maybe you do?
As soon as you pointed out the yellow helpy eyes I instantly got hit with “HOW DID I NOT PUT THAT TOGETHER”
Great video as always, NotRealName. I especially liked that you addressed the notion of Monty being a red herring. Personally, I've never agreed to that. I think it's very evident that Monty ultimate did it. I just thought he was just used by Vanny to junk Bonnie for parts for Burntrap. However, considering the state we find Bonnie in RUIN (with most of his shell casing and endo I might add) combined with the fact that I believe it to be fundamentally impossible for Glitchtrap and Burntrap to be William Afton, and I think its safe to assume that Monty just totaled Bonnie so he could get closer to the spot light. I think that is pretty evident by all we've been given about the situation.
However, I don't think Bonnie is Helpi. I think that Helpi is simply put, the Mimic corrupting the little guy. Don't forget that Mimi has bright yellow eyes as well, and the gaslighting attitude is more something the Mimic would do. Also, the reason that the Mimic is copying Gregory was because he was trying to trick Cassie into believe he was Gregory so she would free him. I personally believed that the Mimic was the one who lured Cassie to the ruined Pizzaplex specifically to not only free him, but also to lure back Gregory, aka, his favorite follower. After all. Why would he get Cassie of all people? Because she is Gregory's best friend, and Mimic would know this due to Gregory having been under his "employment" just like Vanessa.
Speaking of whom, no. I don't think that was Vanessa who sacrificed the Fazbear Technician to free herself, as I fully believe Vanessa is free. I believe that that is Vanny still stalking around the Pizzaplex now free of Vanessa and just wanting to take out her old boss because his so weak now. Just thought I'd throw my $0.02 into the matter. ^_^
PS: When it comes to my opinion of Freddy and Bonnie's relationship. Meh. I don't care if people ship it, I just don't care for the couple. Though personally, I think they were totally in a threesome with Chica. ;)
EDIT: Also, no. I don't think Bonnie was a villain. I think he was ultimately just a victim.
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Bonnie isn’t a victim or villain, he’s a rabbit.
Uh actually a bunny ☝️🤓
With Escape the Pizzaplex slated to feature Cassie as the main protagonist, and Monty as the main antagonist- it ties into all the Monty vending machines becoming Roxy, and with how much Cassie mentions Bonnie in Ruin- it’s very likely we’ll be getting some info about him next year.
Imagine your are in a perpetual state of not being able to move and just watch from the system.
It's so horrible.. Maybe be just lose his sanity..
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Technically, JTop only said that he was gone in that ending. But even if he is,he may only be one of many. I mean,think how ominous Vanny looks in that ending. Why would she look villainous when Vanny isn't around anymore? Vanessa is free. Unless it's Glitchtrap. We know Glitchtrap can replicate and -based on VIP- can take multiple forms. What if this is Vanny's Glitchtrap? Killing the others in order to take full control,absorbing their souls and destroying the rest?
It's also worth pointing out that there's a voice in Cassie's head that seems to be supporting her quest to free the mimic (or get down there,at least) but was in her head BEFORE SHE GOT THE VANNY MASK. It appeared immediately after Monty attacked her but before she met Maskbot. Monty must have infected her,which may explain why he didn't kill her
If they program Freddy and Bonnie to be boyfriends, I can see a company like that fazbear entertainment doing that in an attempt to seem modern and progressive like companies do while really being disingenuous
I don't think they would program their robots to be in romantic relationships...
@ I think they would if it served a purpose.
People get touchy about Glamrock Freddy x Bonnie?
Man, sometimes love is an 80's throwback bear rockstar and an 80's throwback bunny jazzerciser who also symbolically represent two totally straight and platonic men who died trying to kill each other, and that's beautiful.
I like it when you do more speculative videos like this as preferred to recaps! Both are fine though
If glamrock bonnie is William, metaphorically, then it's kind of fitting that Glam Bonnie got taken down by a gator since I believe The Vengeful Spirut had an alligator mask
somethin really funny about the idea that Monty DEFINITELY faked the accident but MIGHT NOT have killed him! like hes some comically incompetent goon. im picturing Vanny telling him to 'make this look like an accident' and then she sees what he did and just decides to hide the whole thing and make sure no one ever even sees it instead
17:41 “you don’t have to deal with that weird rabbit thing anymore” does mimic mean BONNIE??? This is all so obviously there but for so long now we all just went with the first assumption that was put out there
interesting thought, but i feel like the straightforward answer is usually best. I think the “weird rabbit thing” is just MXES. maybe it could be both tho
This is one of the best theories surrounding Glam Bonnie I have ever heard… hooked all the way through
Boy Friend.
A friend who is a boy.
With a space in the middle.
0:41 id buy that plushie so fast
It's so cute! 🥺I wish they made plushies that matched the in-game ones
17:41 I'd argue that this line is definitive proof Helptrap IS the Mimic. After all, we're explicitly told that the HELPI communication is basically solely within Cassi's mind thanks to the ocipital transmitter or whatever. There's nothing to physically see. How else would the Mimic be able to know what Helptrap was saying within Cassi's mind WITHOUT them being the same entity
Am I the only one who thinks that the Mimic and Gregory’s face structure look the same? Like, if the Mimic shrunk down and wore Gregory like a meat suit, it wouldn’t look that weird cause they have the same face structure.
It may just be me but wanted to know if anyone else sees this.
wore gregory like a meat suit.... like how ennard wore michael in sister location??! Holy narrative parallels batman!
remember the "have you chosen one?" dialogue hidden in scottgames?? i wondered if that was them choosing bonnie as the first bot to test the glitchtrap stuff on
Everything you say is canon to me 💖. Glitchtrap and Vanessa being responsible is extremely compelling!!!
I find this very interesting and don't actually know how to respond to it. I actually have to watch this all the way before I can get my thoughts on this!
I think the relationship between Bonnie and Freddy is one of friends who've been together for decades, they are the originals after all and Chica had a bowling ball to, those three are a link to the past events
Super late to the party but this is a very interesting theory, especially the idea of Glam Bonnie being hacked first, reminds me of a prequel to SB idea I had, very cool vid!
Little theory I’ve had about Bonnie is
What if Monty called Bonnie into his area to talk to him about something but things got a little heated and Monty ended up shoving him off the catwalk.. out of guilt Monty staged the crime scene of Bonnie and hoped no one thought it was him
I now have to find my Theory Book and Nancy Drew Hat and start going down this "Rabbit Hole" of theories on FNAF!
@5:25 and they were ROOMMATES.
Best Friends.
I was just about to comment this.