Step by step tips and tricks for turbo 2jz-ge is300 (links in description)
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- That's most of what your gonna need. Get 3" piping for your downpipe if your making it yourself or just put it all together and have your nearest exhaust shop make you a downpipe and then an exhaust
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Bro literally made a factory turbo setup, awesome
I have been running this set up for a year still running strong
Are u running stock ecu?
@@jeramyBOXING yes ran a SAFC for a Bit but ecu keeps fighting it so I took it off and runs better
My turn to try it
@@rodzwelding76 would love a car update! I’m doing a similar setup on my 2000 gs300 on stock ecu until I put some rods and gte gasket in
You've been running this setup for a year now? Can you explain what your drain line looked like? Was it the same in the video?
Thank you so much Sir for taking the time and sharing this wealth of information. I have a 2002 Lexus IS 300 Sportcross but there are relatively none or few videos for boosting the IS with an automatic transmission until I saw your post. I am in no way, shape, or form an expert nor am I mechanically inclined to get into this kind of project especially that I am now 55 years old (boosted fogey). Knowing the list of items to purchase is a good place to start. Thanks a million SIr.
You’re a freaking god for this this video you don’t understand how much you have saved the world with this thank you 🙏🏽
WOW- you just blew away about a hundred video's saying this can't be done to the stock 2jz-ge. lol
I love it!!👊
Owner of a 01 and a 02 is300.
Have block on stand now. 👍
TY
This is incredible, I can't wait to start the process on my gs. You're truly an 2JZ GE wizard
The part about the turbo oil feed really cleared up the main questions I had about the oil system, thank you! On top of that T-fitting, I plan on running a filter relocation that also has a port for an oil pressure sender for an aftermarket gauge. That'll help monitor failsafes and help serviceability with an FFIM.
Man, this video really shows the ingenuity needed to successfully and reliably boost on stock ECU, brilliant!
awesome information bro! this is exactly what I was looking for to get into boosting to my GS300
followed for good advice for beginners!
youre an amazing person for this! (2004 IS300 owner)
Man this Is phenomenal. Thank you! I am in the final stages of getting my 99 sc300 na-t done. Now i really have some decisions on whether i want to put in the supra injectors and let it rip for now. Only downside is my o2s are on my pricey custom downpipe. Worst part of this project is getting that oil drain situated for anyone debating doing this...
A drill and a tap it's very easy to do and the bottom end of the block already has a boss ready for it. I've done two of them now with no problems at all.
You are pretty smart and I learned some things in regards of the hot side bov.
judging from the shifts, transmission could use some shimming for solenoids for gears 1-2-3. will make a big difference and it will hold more power and wear those clutches slower.
It won't make a power difference unless there is slipping happening but there's not. I do however like the idea of better power handling ability but this setup would never need it. The car only gains about 120hp and the trans has proven for years now to handle the gains in stock form. To take the power any higher you would need standalone engine management and then you couldn't run this trans anyways
@@MrPhukyew the ecu masters black standalone now lets you retain the stock auto by using a pnp harness to the stock ecu
It can handle a bunch of power, you just have to make sure your pressure coil can take it all. As he said he only has a 7lbs psi coil but im not to sure on the specs myself.
2 years strong on this setup!!! Fool proof
VQ Slayerboi, how God intended
Finally 😍thank for sharing you the best man.
Man thank you you give so much hope for the NA-T groups but there are some links that you put up I think is no longer up can you double some it plz and thank you
Very interesting it’s been two years if you still have the car I’d love to see a update on this build
I drove it for about 9 months before selling it to a friend of mine. Only have heard positive updates but I've honestly not heard much since he bought it. He said it was gonna be his kids mom's daily.
Wow this is such good info man, thank you so much
Thnk u bro the most comprehensive video clean n str8 to the point
Thanks, that's what I was aiming for
Bro I have some questions bt need to tlk how could we do this
@@JUSSINWILLIAMS ask away
I ran into a problem today I have a built ge cp pistons 9;1 eagle rods all race bearings stock head bt I started but the oil light is on and it idling high 2000 2100 range help
@@JUSSINWILLIAMS take out the oil pressure sensor and put a mechanical oil pressure gauge in there and see what your real oil pressure is.
This is awesome, thanks for your post! Unfortunately some of the Ebay links are dead now. What turbo did you use
for this build?
You forgot to mention the important part is the secondary butterfly plate in the y portion of the intake manifold that needs to be removed and or kept in the full open position it will close on you when WOT full boost causing weird acceleration issues also the vacuum line connected to the fuel rail SHOULDN'T be blocked it has its own FPR already the one vacuum line you should delete is the valve cover going to the intake manifold that should be removed immediately because it pressurizes the valve cover and sump. No Bueno you'll be blowing oil pans off and bolts off doing that. But this goes for anyone who isn't routing the vac lines to the front of the turbo.
I never removed mine but if you delete abs then that second butterfly that's meant for traction control only is not going to function anymore
@@MrPhukyew I didn't either I just left it alone but I put a 1 way valve in the middle and I had zero issues with boost pressurizing the valve cover and sump which can be catastrophic so that's also very important information
I agree this is a great straight to the point video! But maaaaaaan that engine is a disaster 😂
Amazing video.
Oh shit stock ecu? Sweet. Very interesting video.
Stay tuned I'm going to be posting the fuel pump video soon
@@MrPhukyew Sweet will do!
Fuel pressure regulator video is now posted
I was also impressed
2j's are amazing
Hi brother . Any way to update the list , or maybe put part names/numbers ? The eBay links no longer work . Thank you!
i tried this set up and my car just cranking no star
Did you hook up your maf? Did you get the injectors in the link? Check to make sure you have fuel pressure while cranking.
i have the 2.5 maf housing
my fuel pressure regulator lowest can go is 55psi
probably that might be the problem
Dumb question? I'm going to do my 99gs300 and I'm wondering if basically everything is the same . PS your one intelligent guy . Keep up the good work 😃
I appreciate the kind words and yes the GS300 is pretty much the same scenario other than having a bigger and easier to work with engine bay.
sup man can u make a playlist of all your 2jz/is300 videos?
Subscribed! Thank you so much!!!
Looking to do this with my 95 JDM import Toyota Crown (JZS-155), this video was helpful as there is not much info on turbo mod for my car, it has the same motor BUT the jdm vvti used the thicker connecting rods and can handle more power. My main issue is concern over the side there the exhaust is contains much more crowded parts over there due to the right hand steering so I am trying to figure out which manifold and turbo set is going to work best for me. Lots to consider, anyways thanks for the vid.
Awesome video.
Awesome info thanks man
I live in Phoenix too i drive a orange is300
Hi what did you do for the 02 sensor for bank 1 circuit 2 , i belive both those go on the header on the factory manifold , all i saw was bank 1 circuit 1 and bank 2 circuit 1 , thanks in advanced
Thank you for all of the knowledge, just wondering what was the total cost not including the car
Mate! I would like to do this, but I’m in the middle of rebuilding my engine. I’m considering changing the compression ratio. How do you think this would work if the compression changes to 9:1 instead of 10.5:1?
This is wat im at waiting on turbo ill let u kne
Question. I’m thinking about just tapping and drilling a hole into the top of the oil pan, and threading it to put a fitting on it. This allows you to run a hose straight from the bottom of your turbo and into the pan. Can’t be that simple can it?
That's exactly how I did it. Look through my channel and the first is300 video I ever made of my personal car was 2019 and there's a pic of it in that video.
Loved the video I’ve been debating on doing this to mine! I live in Phoenix too lol would love to meet up and check it out in person!!
Would also love to get your advice and insight on setting everything up
@@allen10000000k I actually sold mine lol but a good friend has it now and his lady is daily driving it. I have another one in my shop we are doing the same setup on. After all this virus stuff is over I would be happy to meet with you
I would love meet up as well. I’m in the Phoenix area as well. I have a 01 IS300 and have a CXracing kit that I have haven’t installed yet but this might get me to do so now. Hopefully when this virus thing is over we can meet up.
@@allturbo98 were in the area of I-10 and 19th Ave. Look up Cobo's Customs on Google to find us.
Just came across your video. Love the info. I as well am in the Phoenix. I justbought a 2001 is300. And am just gathering info. I'm glad to see you kept the auto trans. I will look you up.
Great video!!! Just got me a 2001 IS and you have answered a lot of the unknowns about a turbo setup. How is the auto trans holding up?
Keep it full of fluid and it will actually hold up really well
Adding a transmission cooler externally as well as an oil cooler for the engine would be a huge Plus
How you doing man I did the same exact setup but car keeps leaning out and running like shit bogging out can't figure out the issue
also what are you using for engine management or are you running a stock ecu?
yes he is he said your tricking your engine to run like a boosted car and make sure not to over boost because its a na ecu
Emu Black with the VVTI plug and play harness would be a much better option but will need a new throttle body
@@quiksilver1j But then issue with Auto gearbox?
Genius
Id pay good money for your help on my mk3 supra lol.
I also have an mk3 supra. It's a 7mge I built and boosted. Plenty of videos of it on this channel
It’s crazy you’re the only one sayin to block that vacuum line I’m glad I found this before running into problems, is there a reason you blocked the hose instead of just using two caps?
Just to retain the "stock" look
Hello sir, not sure if you’re still around the phx area but I’m local as well. Picked up an built is300 project on trade and I’d love to connect with you and get your thoughts. Car still needs some work but I hope it’ll be a ripper when it’s all finished up
Bro thank you
Three of the link are working
Just picked up a 2001 is300 myself,plan on copying your setup. Great video, would love to check out the car in person, I live in Phoenix as well.
Unfortunately I sold mine to a good friend back in March. I actually made the fuel pump video on a customer's is300 i boosted. We can turbo yours too if you wanna bring it to our shop.
@@MrPhukyew , yeah, it needs some all around work. I'd like to bring it by your shop, have you go over it. I do want to turbo it. What's your shops name?
@@MrPhukyew what's the name of your shop or address?
How much timing is there at your boost level? Can you put a scan gauge on your obd2 to see how much timing car has on full boost? I love the set up, China Boost!!!
Peak ignition timing is around 18-20 degrees (does change with intake air temps).
MrPhukyew Hell yeah, probably could do methanol injection and turn up the boost, haha. Thanks for posting your build!!!
@@jetnieva1187 not a problem, but don't try to up the boost unless you use an fmu or something to raise fuel pressure under boost so you don't go lean.
Excellent video, really appreciate the breakdown.
So you are using a stock maf with 316cc injectors with
I just bought a maf from a 1jz gte vvti so I could use the 370cc stock injectors.
How's that working out for you?
@@josephallen3455 It worked well, I did need to use the intake diameter of the original maf housing for the 1jz in order to trick the is300 ecu.
I took off the supercharger that was installed until I get the wideband 02 sensors put in so I can use my
MAP ECU3 to properly tune it.
It worked well without a tune but you could tell it was asking for more on the higher rpms
So you mentioned using the MAF sampling pipe out of an aftermarket ebay intake. I know the oem sample pipe is 2.75" and im pretty sure my aem intake i have is around 2.75" as well, what intake do you recommend?
Anyway you can post updated links? A few of them can’t be found anymore. Would love to buy all the parts and have you build my IS300. Please advise
I know you can do this reliable and get power but I really don’t want to turbo my engine without changing out the pistons and moving the crossover pipe. It’s just the most proper way to do it and it’s the way to make the most power. I’m not riding around in a turbo ge and I don’t have the abilities to do any of the stuff that I want to my engine so what do I know
It's not nearly as critical as you think with the lower boost level. The GE engine in stock form can hit about 500 horse at the wheels before it starts falling apart. This setup here just takes you from the stock 180 at the wheels up to about 280 at the wheels. It just makes it so the car isn't so damn boring to drive around it's not a race car and as long as it's maintained well and you're not beating the piss out of it while it's all heat soaked on a hot day it is reliable. Oil cooler is highly recommended
Sickness
Shid I have a vvti sc300 lol so I won't have to delete abs
Im new sub to ur channel and I want to say Thank you for your videos and keep them coming bro. Stay positive good vibes and keep going! I already learned so much from your channel, it is highly appreciated.
I am a 02 is300 M5 LSD stock 2jz-ge W55 NA owner and I cant find myself to sell the car at this point. However she has 345km/210miles on the stock engine and I want to be prepared when and if she blows. I would like to know what kind of swap u did? Now that u did would u recommend? I seen a video of someone 2JZ-GTE swapped a is300 and used the same oem harness with a specific stand alone ECU? I would like the easiest swap and I dont want to put the same 2JZ-GE NA engine with lower km/ refresh ;(
Any advise or direction would be great. Thank you very much...
I didn't do a swap, mine has 194k miles on it and still runs like new. All original drivetrain
And thanks for the kind words :)
@@MrPhukyew WOW!
just turbo it
@@chrisboost67707 - Parts list and write up please :)
does the 7mge injectors plug n play or do i need to modify the injectors to fit the stock rail?
How do set up the 7m ge injectors to work. Remember hearing it in one of your videos but I can’t find which one
Hey I just got a lexus is300 2002 and got a turbo kit on Amazon called xspower the kit let me down it didnt even included intercooler piping. Anyways I started putting it in but I have been having so many troubles I can't get the oil return or feed line started is there any way you could help me out or let me know of a trick you used to get the oil lines finshed quicker I really dont like seeing my car just sit there not running.
Question. My cold charge pipe where the maf goes. Should it be 2.5 or 3"?
I leave in canada
How can I get in touch with you I'm planning to do the same thing in my lexus is 300 2003
Your is very simple
Yo just curious how much power she making compared to stock non turbo
Great setup and video, I treated myself to a turbo kit on my gs300 thanks to this wonderful video. :)
I've got a bit of a problem tho, the mixture is too lean in my setup, during idle the ratio is about 17 to 20, and when the accelerator is depressed the ratio 15 to 16. Is this related to the tube that you've mentioned in the video?
Thanks again for the informative video :)
What injectors do you have?
@@josephallen3455 Original injectors
@@tzu-chunchen2738 go with those green top injectors see if that works.
Did you ever get that lean problem fixed? I'm having similar issues with my is300.
Hey man great video I'm about to start on my is300 I do have a question do you think I can get rid of the crossover intake set up for an after-market one without having to buy a standalone ECU I'm thinking maybe there's a way to trick it into working
sam demetro probably not, all the ffim I’ve seen for ge’s are huge. You’d need some tuning to compensate.
he could easily get by without tuning to compensate but the wiring is hard to put all the wires where they need to be and the throttle cable is not long enough so you have to have something made and it makes you relocate a lot of things that are in front of the intake manifold so it makes it complicated to do this. There are also some incompatibility issues with the throttle body on those manifolds if I remember correctly it's very very complicated or nearly impossible to run a forward facing intake manifold with the stock ECU
Where you located? I am a little busy to do this work myself was hoping to work something out.
Anyone know what size tee fitting for brake lines?
Need me some #chinaboost for my 95 sc300. Seen a kit on ebay for $550 not including exhaust manifold. What are thoughts on stubby cast manifold floating around. ?
With an even bigger maf pipe could 400 or 500cc injectors work?
I guess that's possible if you can find a bigger than 3 inch MAF housing
What turbo do you have?
I have a qeustion do you have a catilyc converter with a o2 sensor or no catalytic converter
Probably missed it but what are you doing for tuning? Also can you post up some updated links? Half are gone
With all these instructions being followed along with my other videos about this setup being followed you can get by with 6-8psi of boost without needing any tuning. Been running a few of these cars like this for over a year now and they are all daily driven
Is there a reason the O2 sensors need to be on the manifold before the turbo and not after the turbo on the downpipe?
When I 1st put a Turbo on the 1st one of these cars I put the 02 sensors in the downpipe and the car ran like c*** and I got codes for slow response of the 02 sensors bank 1 and bank 2. Afterwards I moved the 02 sensors to the manifold and never had another problem
@@MrPhukyew awesome man, thanks again for the help... You are the man.
Did you just delete the fuel evap line from the hot side
Most of the ebay links are old now. I'm looking for a turbocharger. What do you recommend?
Same😂
@@miguelaguilar8632 id go hx35 for medium power or he351. Cx racing gt35. Rev9 6266.
Nice set up man!!
Got a question, what's the cost you would charge to install a turbo kit on a 2jzge?
Thanks!
Installed and ready to stomp on comes out to about 2,800 total. That's all parts and labor included as well as a warranty. If your car does not have anti-lock brakes then we can bring the price down to 2500. The ABS creates a lot of extra work
@@MrPhukyew Nice, wheres the shop at or the name of shop? I'm in Phoenix Az
@@Be666pe
Cobo's Customs
1711 w. Culver st.
Unit 6
Phoenix az 85007
So to get the flare tool kit down to the rear brake line area, the intake manifold runners need to come off? Correct
I bent lines and did the bottom one from the bottom side. Removing the factory lines and cutting them to the length needed and bending them a more preferable route for your new set up makes it pretty easy.
I wanna ask u, what is the max psi that lexus is300 can handle??
Can I still run it with Supra injectors without the fuel pressure regulator? I got the same set up but it’s demanding more fuel.
Yes the green top non turbo 7mge injectors do fit but there is a little bit of ghetto rigging you've got to do with the o-rings to make it all fit. I ran mine that way without a regulator for a long time but it did need more fuel over 6 lb of boost so I ended up doing the regulator which fixed that and got me a solid 8 to 9 PSI.
The problem with that is it might be too much boost for the factory ignition map so colder spark plugs and tighter plug gap help as well as making sure you are running the best quality fuel you can get from the pump. If you add a large oil cooler for the engine then it helps prevent detonation as well by keeping the entire bottom side of the engine much cooler.
I drove mine year round here in Phoenix Arizona with the AC blasting all the time and didn't have issues.
Using a slightly bigger Turbo helps a lot to prevent detonation as well. The turbo I had used probably was giving a little bit more hot side pressure than necessary which will create detonation.
This car is still alive and doing well and belongs to a friend of mine.
@@MrPhukyew good to hear it’s in good hands. Finished installing an intercooler over the weekend. Just been cruising it to work drives much better. Can’t get past half throttle so came across your videos for help and got alot of good info. I can’t decide to get a Walbro 255 or 350 lph I guess more the better right? Then the Supra injectors are the last thing to get on the list.
Hey brother . Any way you might have a build list ? I’d like to tackle a project like this , but wanna make sure all parts are readily available . Thanks man 🙏
hi all the links are gone can I get a parts list instead?
boost creep usually due to wastegate. Maf is not maxxed out? I have a turbonetics evolution with 36mm wastegate giving me boost creep as well.
On the second one of these cars I boosted I actually used a 60mm wastegate and it never had boost creep. The one before that was my personal car and I used a 50mm wastegate on that one. It did have boost creep issues. Both cars had a 60mm t4 turbo with a .82 hot side. So, small quick spooling turbo needs a lot of wastegate. On my personal car I could have upsized the turbo and still would have got rid of boost creep
@@MrPhukyew Hey, im actually going to start this build. I have an is200 with a 2jz ge vvti JDM out of an Aristo, and a W58 from the NA Supra. Do you have a link for the 60mm WG? I bought a gt30 turbo from maxspeedingrods .063 AR.
Aye bro in Phoenix me too
Feel free to come by our shop and visit. Got a lot of turbo projects and fast toys going together right now
1711 w. Culver st.
Unit 6
Phoenix az 85007
2JZ-GE VVTI
CR10.5:1
6 PSI ECR 12.46:1
2JZ-GTE
CR8.5:1
11PSI ECR 11.24:1
18PSI ECR 12.68:1
ECR is equivalent compression ratio. Safe limit on the GE is 6psi, what's considered safe on a stock GTE is 18psi they have similar ECR. Coincidence? I think not. Detonation is what kills the GEs. Put 15psi in a GE and thats like putting 30psi in a GTE. Thats why ring landing failure is the most common failure in nat GEs.
You were pretty much correct until that last part, with proper tuning a lot more can be done than what's in your list there and there are lots of factors involved. The car in the video is on 6psi with no tuning ability at all for ignition timing. I'm not sure what compression ratio is factory on an is300 variant of the 2jz but ecr or "dynamic compression ratio" calculation needs cam timing involved to get an accurate figure. Ringland failure has little to nothing to do with this as typical ringland failure happens when you don't have enough ring gap for safe expansion. The problem you are pointing towards is detonation (I'm assuming) because your talking about compression ratio. Trust me when I say this car would be on 10-12 psi if I was able to properly tune ignition timing.
@@MrPhukyew Go past around 15 psi+ in a GE even with a perfect tune and it WILL blow the Ringland's because of detonation. Unless your running some crazy high octane fuel maybe. And i originally thought it must be that too, but no its not ring gap the GE has the same ring gap as GTE i looked in the manuals of both.
So my point is detonation from high compression is what kills the GEs not the weaker internals necessarily like everyone says. So the high CR just adds insult to injury to anyone that doesnt do something correctly with a turbo ge setup. Ive never seen a bent rod on a GE only blown ring landings and GTE has almost same exact pistons biggest difference is its dished out for lower cr.
@@blu3flare25 a perfect tune wouldn't be detonating, I understand what you are trying to say but what I'm telling you is that on these cars I have no ability to adjust ignition timing so all I do is set them up with plenty of fuel and leave it at low boost and my customers love it
@@blu3flare25 and detonating can break ringlands but more commonly it's improper ring gap
@@MrPhukyew Yea your setup is perfect and within the limit of stock ecu not arguing with that. Was just putting some info out there so anyone that reads it knows the Ringland's are the weakest link because of the high CR on the GE and ring gap is the same on GTE and GE as i already said.
*How come no one uses the stock gte twin turbo setup on 2jzge engines? I mean wouldn't it be the easiest setup to get about 350-400hp from stock?*
This setup is cheaper, better looking, more efficient. This setup could make about 500 wheel horsepower if we had a way to tune the car properly.
Wouldnt the 02 sensors only be reading two cylinders worth of the fuel data then?
Yes but that's fine because those cylinders are equal and one is on each bank. The only way it would be thrown off is if the cylinder it's reading is misfiring. If you got a misfire it doesn't really matter how far off the O2 sensor readings are, you need to fix your car.
any check engine lights with this setup?
I got a 98 SC300 with the 2JZGE VVTi setup and I may need to keep it fully emissions compliant including OBDII plug-in
also, is that a GTP in the shop back there?
No check engine light
This what I need lol
Does this also apply to the non vvti version?
Are you able to relist the links in description, or do you have some sort of a written build guide? Most of the links are dead!
It takes hours to track down all the links I'm not doing it quarterly I'm sorry. If anybody is mechanically inclined enough to be able to do this job then finding the parts shouldn't be too hard. The most important info is in the actual video content
@@MrPhukyew wasn't too sure if you already had a writeup, thought i'd ask to see if you kept track already
@@MrPhukyew video has some good information though, thanks for sharing!
Na-T passes emissions still here in phoenix ?
Thx for the info, Can i not spend a bit more and just do AN lines for oil return?
Weird, just saw you comment on Rad Dan’s channel, you should definitely do Something 2JZ since you’ve been into it for a year. My fav 2JZGE VVTI build: m.ruclips.net/video/D1LCJypezdA/видео.html
@@2JZLS it would be my second jz but first for a classic so
Okay so there are 3 o2 sensors. The two in the manifold are which ones. And where does the other one go??
And wideband goes into the downpipe
in stock form there are actually four O2 sensors and the wideband makes 5. The bottom O2 sensor and the one that's further back in the tailpipe go in the downpipe/tailpipe and have spacers on them so that you will not get codes for catalytic converter efficiency. Also the wideband goes in the downpipe. The first two O2 sensors that are up top go into exhaust runners 1 and 6
What spark plugs are you using?
Ngk bkr6e if I remember correctly
So I’m currently standing in my garage trying to figure out how you got the 7m injectors installed? I have them part #23250-70080 but they don’t seem to pop in the same way the stock ones do. Any recommendations?
Creative o-ring spacing.
Not sure if you still answer these threads but I got the injectors installed and have been running this exact set up for quite a while now with 340 lph fuel pump but wasn’t happy with my mid throttle afrs. If I make boost in closed loop I’m not seeing good afrs but I unplugged my primary bank 1 and bank 2 oxygen sensor and now I’m seeing perfect afrs across the entire stock map. My question to you is, besides check engine light do you think that it will affect any thing else critical? Will having them unplugged affect my ignition timing?
@@d4vincii_projects70 Yea you're open loop all the time if you unplug, afr is calculated by maf only. Tbh there is no reason for b1 and b2 to run lean/rich in vacuum if you have everything connected right, Is your setup similar to OPs?
Hey man I am on the east side of Phoenix and plan on boosting my is300, I would like to know if you still build or work on them? I am currently doing some bolt ons and 264 cams with valve springs and retainers.
Don't do the cams unless you have a way to tune it
@@MrPhukyew a lot of the research I have done and asked about before I decided in a NA build before the NA-T is that the Brian crower 264 are a plug and play with recommended springs/retainers and the 272s are recommended a tune and ecu mod’s etc. I could go on about the boost build with the 2 different cams and all but I came across your video. I really like the descriptive video you posted and realized you are somewhat near me as well 🤙🏼
@@Static.jce10 no cams are plug-and-play. See when you add boost your goal is to add fuel in the required amount. Sometimes you can mechanically manipulate things like I did in my video to make that scenario work. Bigger injectors plus bigger mass airflow sensor makes bigger range of airflow that my computer can manage. The downside is I'm going to be prone to detonation because I cannot modify my ignition map. That means I have to take lots of precautions like smaller plug gap and colder plugs and large intercooler. But there's more to it than that because if I'm measuring my air flow at the throttle body which is the smartest way to do it then I'm also measuring my air temp at the throttle body so my cooler are temps are only adding timing. It's a very tricky scenario to manage and if you don't do it right you're going to have cracked ring lands before you can even get a fun race in. This is why we keep the boost low and the octane high.
Using a different cam profile changes the entire ve table and when you do that without being able to modify your ve table to match your cam you don't get very good results. Idle will never be correct because bigger cam profiles need more ignition timing and less fuel at idle, while in the mid-range you might actually do okay in the top-end you're going to measure a lot more airflow than the computer is programmed for which is going to subtract a lot of timing and probably won't fuel it correctly so you will actually be slower.
Essentially what I'm getting at is that you really don't want to change cam profile unless you can tune it properly there is no "plug-and-play cam upgrade". The best you could do for a plug-and-play cam upgrade would be adding just a tiny bit of lift to get a little more air flow everywhere. Even that could cause lean conditions without a tune.
@@MrPhukyew interesting! Thanks for that explanation and insight on that. And like you had said in your video you had boost around 7-8 and would creep up to 9 when shifting!
@@Static.jce10 yes and 6-7 psi would have been optimal but those numbers can change with turbo size. I used a t4 with a .68 a/r hot side and a 61mm exducer. It had a 60mm inducer on the cold side. The trick is to use a bigger turbo than you really need and don't have unrealistic power goals. It will spool a lil later but pull hard. This setup is less prone to detonation as long as you can fuel it sufficiently. Use a wideband and try to get your afr's into the 11s under boost.
Forgot to ask did you use the stock ecu if not which ecu did you use
Stock
Been running a very similar setup for a few months now.
Would you happen to have a instagram or something to talk more about this set up im thinking about doing it myself
How did you fit the injectors? I bought the same ones but when I installed them, they seem to be loose. I even put the rubber ring around it from the stock injectors.
Gotta be creative with the spacers and o rings
@@MrPhukyew I ended up buying harbor freight rubber grommets. Worked great.
@@pongstatus7268 do you by any chance have a link for them or anything?
any idea when ur gonna be doing a video on the fuel return?
Some Stranger he sold the car
@@okistash3075 he's building another
Some Stranger roger that, I’m happy to hear. Has he posted anything about it yet?
The fuel pressure regulator and return line instruction video is now posted