HVAC Has Changed Forever! Find out what has changed and future technologies!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @formerfuzz
    @formerfuzz Год назад +8

    I have benefited from the Atlas AC Videos, and appreciate it. Too bad you do not service Mt Pleasant, TX. I have a 20 year old Lennox System that is working fine, but know it will need to be replaced eventually. Doing my research now to better understand products and new changes in regulations. Seems with the upcoming regs, that it may be wiser to wait for the new equipment and freon. Tough for retired folks like myself on fixed income to choose what is affordable and efficient.

  • @cpizani
    @cpizani Год назад +12

    Recent quote from Carrier contractor for 4 ton variable speed unit system replacement, no duct work, $22,400. IMO, Carrier can keep all of the units they produce. I predict minisplits will kill the locked up conventional market. Who can afford this???

    • @dannydelcerro
      @dannydelcerro Год назад

      Well what else did he offer you? Parts/labor? Maintenance? Which variable speed? What kind of company is it? Like the price can’t be just the equipment

    • @intexas-wetrust
      @intexas-wetrust Год назад

      The contractor is more to blame than the manufacture on the final price to the consumer . You are right about mini split splits but we are 10+ years before that option becomes realistically affordable to the every day consumer.

    • @cpizani
      @cpizani Год назад

      @@dannydelcerro Turnkey replacement. I love working with them as they are great small company with great service. They put in the system I currently have. They warned me that I will have "sticker shock" as they mentioned that last year they were getting sometimes weekly notices of the equipment price increases of 6% - 10%.

    • @cpizani
      @cpizani Год назад

      @@intexas-wetrust Not really if the MFR price increases are outrageous. Then you the distributor in the middle increasing cost. IMO, the whole HVAC distributor/territory closed system will be disrupted with the other options. The costs are out of control.

    • @LouisS-cs7bh
      @LouisS-cs7bh 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cpizani I agree with your assessment!!

  • @joseortiz287
    @joseortiz287 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the education videos made my buying process much simpler in replacing my 20 year old Lennox system!

  • @grasscutter1963
    @grasscutter1963 2 месяца назад +1

    This is so good I actually watched it two times in a row 😂

  • @cheekybastard99
    @cheekybastard99 11 месяцев назад +7

    My new name brand heat pump unit has a control board that looks like a vcr board designed in the 80s, the board has almost no protection from the environment or surge protection.
    The industry needs a kick in the ass.

    • @sheath7463
      @sheath7463 8 месяцев назад

      Over/under voltage from the power company and lightning storms in the southern U.S. will wreak havoc on the electronics used in these efficiency units. The old style mechanical controls kept my old heat pump operating for 25 years. My new high efficiency heat pump lasted 3 years. External power protection is a must. Hopefully, manufacturers are improving the built in power protection of the high efficiency units. Hopefully.

  • @K6TJO
    @K6TJO Год назад +5

    Can a homeowner working on these new machines? Or does this racket force everyone to use service expensive technicians ?

    • @JFirn86Q
      @JFirn86Q Год назад +5

      The HVAC industry racket is so unique. I can't think of another vital industry/trade that acts like HVAC does. Car Mechanics, Electrical, Plumbing, Masonry, Drywall, Carpentry, Computing, Networking, etc all allow you to buy equipment at similar prices as the professionals and allow you to install that equipment. But when it comes to an HVAC supply house - you are barred from entering if not a professional, even if you have your EPA card and could run circles around the "pros" in terms of HVAC knowledge. Even if you agree to accept all risks.

  • @cameronplatts9630
    @cameronplatts9630 2 месяца назад

    Would like to see an interview with a Lennox representative to get their perspective on the current and future HVAC product offerings.

  • @tc1uscg65
    @tc1uscg65 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sooo, what I'm gathering, on the consumer side, just like the 1st year a new model of car comes out. Wait till all the NEW bugs are worked out and perfected. All these "new standards" and "supply chain management" excuses to jack up the price(s) remind me of the dog whistle of "it's a threat to national security" whenever justification is needed for something that doesn't exist but no one will question it. Every change of Freon is one that will "save the planet". Who's to say this new freon isn''t going to make the same list in a couple of years and HVAC types will have to phase out another gas?

  • @LeonardCooperman
    @LeonardCooperman Год назад +2

    Wish she had touched on the Crossover product, that looks like the future.

  • @rockyhighwayroad7365
    @rockyhighwayroad7365 5 месяцев назад

    Why do HVAC compressors not have some sort of Wi-Fi or Bluetooth built-in? I would like to know if my AC is not working when I'm traveling. I live in an area of Florida that without AC the house becomes very bad from the humidity it will actually cause lasting damage. I would like to be able to do a remote reset of the system and also know the current status of the system

  • @glacious0640
    @glacious0640 4 месяца назад

    I live in Mississippi and in a 2 level home. The second level is 350 sq ft and first level 1900 sq ft. I have a unit for the first level and a second unit for the second level. In your opinion, would recommend a 2 two stage units for the two levels in my home or two single stages units for my two levels.

  • @picklerix6162
    @picklerix6162 Год назад +6

    There was absolutely no reason to change to SEER2. It’s the result of some government bureaucrats, trying to justify their salaries.

    • @JFirn86Q
      @JFirn86Q Год назад +1

      Yeah for real. It make sense that it should have been SEER2 all along, but changing it after a well founded convention is in place is really dumb. Especially when you make it very similar to the existing one, lower in number just slightly to aid in confusion, and very difficult to explain to anyone who doesn't research the standard. I'm sure a real pain in the butt to any contractor and gives almost zero improvement of usefulness compared to the original SEER.

  • @brandonv8721
    @brandonv8721 5 месяцев назад +1

    tried to buy a carried heat pump, ended up getting screwed over (my contractor said carried screwed them) and getting a 5 speed AC forced on me. My carried infinity is pretty shit, I have 2 in my house, do not recommend. Zoning adding was quoted at 20K, which is crazy for a 2 zone system.

  • @grasscutter1963
    @grasscutter1963 2 месяца назад

    Has anyone heard much about the Bosch and Mitsubishi brands?

  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 Год назад +4

    Up to this point, I've enjoyed your channel. But the price massive increases offend me, and help me to resent all involved.

  • @pjlee4540
    @pjlee4540 Год назад

    @jason all units have mostly same issues ,we always trading the devil for the witch ,i think carrier warranty is underrated and the seer 2 carrier has been better on stactic issues burning eletrical .and i put in what customer call for so for youre info im neutral between brands that carry emerson

  • @heatingairservices8708
    @heatingairservices8708 9 месяцев назад

    as an tech its getting more Complicated ..to Sale the right product to specific customers & also Service End so many Hi $ Sensors to Ck & esp Boards costs ...if in Stock close by ... after the 10 yr warranty Up

  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 Год назад +2

    New lower cost methods are necessary. People can't afford this. Meanwhile I'll nurse my 35 year old Heil along.
    Very easy for consumers to resent these foolish expensive changes.

  • @gregjohnson4041
    @gregjohnson4041 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve enjoyed watching your videos (all of them!) and just purchased a new Carrier performance 2 stage Furnace and 2 stage AC for my home. Contractor used the Carrier circuit board to control the staging on both units. Some people say the thermostat controls staging better. What do you do at Atlas?

  • @l.crossjr
    @l.crossjr Год назад +3

    She says "You already have acetlyne on your truck! 😂
    Yeah dummy but my accetlyne is not in contact with any electrical components like the refrigerant is.
    I predict fires and lawsuits

  • @larrycumba2741
    @larrycumba2741 Год назад +3

    Consumers will once again take it up the you know what.

  • @kencleg7721
    @kencleg7721 Год назад +1

    ? I u tube my installer has Goodman and icp. Icp useing same interior as carrier Iam in the market 2 systems at know 7 k each

  • @john_admin4965
    @john_admin4965 Год назад +1

    Mildly flammable….

    • @johnwehunt4305
      @johnwehunt4305 Год назад +1

      When it burns creates a poison gas.

    • @new2000car
      @new2000car 11 месяцев назад

      @@johnwehunt4305you’re not supposed to know that. You will need to be shut down. Sorry, non believers are not allowed.

  • @heatingairservices8708
    @heatingairservices8708 9 месяцев назад

    department of Energy has Gone to Far ..Lot New Regulations Are Totally Unnecessary & 410 in 2020 was $ 90 a 25 lb jug Now its over 250-300- 350 $$ ....Just Cant imagine next few years Costs Industry Wide

  • @JFirn86Q
    @JFirn86Q Год назад +4

    What would be great is allowing adept homeowners to buy (and install) their own equipment, without getting destroyed on price. Just like you can for your car... (as you mentioned in the analogy)

    • @vincentgrueter7759
      @vincentgrueter7759 Год назад +2

      As a technician myself. This sounds like a nightmare. "Adept" is completely subjective. You may think you're adept, but to properly install and design an hvac system, takes so much prior knowledge and understanding that 99% of homeowners will not be able to properly do it. Leaving us technicians to have to solve problems in the field that could've been avoided during install. Plus for environmental protection, just allowing homeowners to deal with refrigerant is gonna cause a lot of problems.

    • @JFirn86Q
      @JFirn86Q Год назад +4

      @@vincentgrueter7759 This is exactly the kind of thinking that plagues HVAC. This superiority attitude. Sure, adept is subjective, but that shouldn't matter at all anyways, as it doesn't in other industries. There are numerous detailed calculators out there to design a system, and you know damn well that a ton of techs don't even use them. Why do you think you see so many mismatched systems installed? Those weren't by homeowners... Don't even get me started on the absolute shoddy workmanship displayed by a lot of installers. Or the horrid spaghetti duct systems of today. Environmental protection, okay fine, but if you have an EPA card, that's no different than a tech.
      It's just anti-freedom thinking, that would bother you just as much if it was attached to any other industry that you take for granted to be able to freely repair/fix/replace on your own.

    • @vincentgrueter7759
      @vincentgrueter7759 Год назад +3

      @JohnChuprun repair and fix is different than installing. We don't just go around letting anyone build their own cars and drive them on the road. Same with building a home. Sure there are bad installs, but that's doesn't mean we should just hand off installing a system to just any homeowner. If you're epa certified then be my guest screw with your own system.

    • @AdrianButler86
      @AdrianButler86 Год назад +4

      Who's stopping u? U can study for ur epa universal cert and get it in prolly 2 weeks. Then u r free to buy and DIY all ur hvac stuff. If u think u can do a better job thats done faster and cheaper than a good experienced and knowledgeable tech then go ahead. We don't care we are not stopping u!

    • @picklerix6162
      @picklerix6162 Год назад

      As a formerly licensed contractor, I installed my HVAC system myself. I saved at least $5k but the narrow utility closet made the installation incredibly difficult. I’m pretty sure the original furnace and coil were installed before the drywall was installed in the house when it was built. I originally wanted to install Rheem but couldn’t find a 21” 5 ton coil. Goodman had the size that I needed.
      I took the EPA test several years ago at a supply house. If you study the material and take the practice tests, you should be able to pass easily.

  • @JohnLee-im7iu
    @JohnLee-im7iu Год назад +1

    No one in America knows icp brand. Good interview. Too bad Bryant and Payne aren’t considered as good as carrier….

    • @JFirn86Q
      @JFirn86Q Год назад +2

      Brands are highly regionalized. Plenty know ICP, just probably not in your area it sounds like.

    • @SUPERRACINGLIFE
      @SUPERRACINGLIFE Год назад +1

      What about Arcoaire

    • @SUPERRACINGLIFE
      @SUPERRACINGLIFE Год назад

      Is the Arlington location 39:10 a franchise?

  • @dwrldgster3151
    @dwrldgster3151 Год назад

    My ac is 26 years old and go bad

  • @kencleg7721
    @kencleg7721 Год назад

    Icp number 2 builder of a c systems differ name starting w carrier b, p day night And diekin ? World wide 6 different names Goodman in there parts are the same

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 11 месяцев назад

    More higher prices more taxes for uncle Joe hunter family

  • @dustin9035
    @dustin9035 9 месяцев назад

    It’s all a big cash grab.

  • @jasonjohnsonHVAC
    @jasonjohnsonHVAC Год назад +1

    Sorry buddy....no offense.....Carrier is junk.

  • @petebusch9069
    @petebusch9069 5 месяцев назад +6

    HVAC is like paying 5k to have a refrigerator installed.

    • @thulsa5218
      @thulsa5218 2 месяца назад

      Amen...HVAC is the biggest racket going lately

  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 Год назад +13

    Your Prices increased, but so did your profit margin, the percentage you profit on each price increase.
    This is called margin expansion. It is a primary contributor to higher inflation.

    • @tgriebe
      @tgriebe 9 месяцев назад +2

      It is a crooked business. Compare prices at a place like HVAC Direct to installed prices. Installation is thousands of dollars per hour.

  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 Год назад +7

    Nobody will be replacing much for $20k. Repair. Repair.

  • @hosocat1410
    @hosocat1410 Год назад +3

    Sounds kinda like tesla engineering..."oh yeah, theyre MILDLY flammable. Nothing to worry about".

  • @verajavi12
    @verajavi12 3 дня назад +1

    Me and my loyal swamp cooler sitting here looking at each other laughing our ass off. Happy as can be.

  • @billmoyer3254
    @billmoyer3254 2 месяца назад +2

    I've got your sustainability right here.

  • @garykinard7553
    @garykinard7553 5 месяцев назад +3

    Only problem I have with Carrier is it has moved to Mexico. Dakin or Goodman has a huge plant in Houston I think. Service wise Carrier has put out some real stinkers in the past. I am retired HVAC tech. Personally I just head down to the Goodman dealer and pick up a unit when mine goes out. With all the changes it is not worth the hassle of repairing anymore, for me. Refergerent is through the roof and you can pick up the latest for 3 grand. Personally I just swap out unless the repair is very simple. Must be a HVAC company dream come true. If younger I would open up just for the change outs.

    • @Steve44036
      @Steve44036 Месяц назад

      You hit the nail, dead center on the head! I'm not a tech but have done reasearch on HVAC. They are manufacturing these like disposable lighters.

  • @drewtimekeepsonslipn
    @drewtimekeepsonslipn Год назад +6

    Million dollar questions - I have an 18 year old Trane that I'm using. Can I expect these new Carrier air conditions to last 18 - 25 years? If not, why not? How long can I expect a properly maintained Carrier to last ?

    • @dwrldgster3151
      @dwrldgster3151 Год назад +1

      30years at least you might have to replace the fan controller or compactor

    • @drewtimekeepsonslipn
      @drewtimekeepsonslipn Год назад +1

      @@dwrldgster3151 I wonder if Atlas AC and Carrier would agree with that number.

    • @jasonjohnsonHVAC
      @jasonjohnsonHVAC Год назад +12

      Not a chance it'll last....the manufacturers are 100% about planned obsolescence...lots of bells and whistles that are made with the cheapest components and manufactured in foreign countries. If you get 15 years.....consider yourself very lucky

    • @pjlee4540
      @pjlee4540 Год назад +2

      Doubt it we traded longevity two be more eficient, lucky two get half that number as Jason said

    • @Tactical-Black
      @Tactical-Black Год назад +3

      I have a Rheem going on 20 years

  • @petebusch9069
    @petebusch9069 5 месяцев назад +2

    Carrier and Lennox both spend a great amount of effort to charge you more for the same thing. Avoid both of these brands and you'll be ahead of the rest.

  • @cyberlight22
    @cyberlight22 Год назад +3

    You really need to do an interview with the other HVAC brands as well. See what they're coming up with honestly I don't even know what refrigerant, everybody else is going with

    • @intexas-wetrust
      @intexas-wetrust Год назад +1

      Agreed. That is a great idea

    • @Jaker788
      @Jaker788 11 месяцев назад

      R32 or R454B (puron advanced) these are the two you'll see as replacements on air conditioning and heat pump HVAC. They both perform very similarly in efficiency, and against R410a they are also very similar in efficiency and performance. R32 would edge out but barely in real life.
      R32 has been used by some manufacturers already for quite some time as well. A fair amount of dehumidifiers and window ACs use R32 and not r410a with more switching in the last couple years.
      It should be noted that R32 was a component of R410a (50% R32 + 50% R125), it's the same for R454B (69% R32 + 31% 1234yf). So things aren't changing all that much in function or efficiency of the refrigerant itself.

  • @chrisr5437
    @chrisr5437 Год назад +3

    Good interview. Very informative.

  • @vincentwilkes9611
    @vincentwilkes9611 Год назад +2

    Interesting but some of the technology like the NFC components are VERY inexpensive off the shelf kit that is easy to integrate.

  • @foghornleghorn8536
    @foghornleghorn8536 4 месяца назад +1

    14:36 "Oxygen is pretty flammable"
    That's good to know..

  • @RayRay-nb7tn
    @RayRay-nb7tn Год назад +1

    Where can I get the literature that you had about SEER2? Have to read more about this mess so I can get my head wrapped around it?

  • @jamesalias595
    @jamesalias595 Год назад +1

    What I want to know is how to get the $14,000 heehra rebates for a heat pump. a 25C tax credit won't cover the cost for any new system.

  • @grasscutter1963
    @grasscutter1963 2 месяца назад +1

    This video was amazing and full of knowledge. 👍👍👍

  • @joshuabeemer4062
    @joshuabeemer4062 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love this woman: "insert carrier sales pitch here....."

  • @roybaggett8565
    @roybaggett8565 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video a wealth of information

  • @kencleg7721
    @kencleg7721 Год назад +1

    Icp = day and night

  • @motokev2727
    @motokev2727 Год назад +1

    Be nice to know about furnace brands.
    I'll need a furnace soon.
    My Tempstar is 30 yrs old.
    I'm afraid the blower will die soon.

    • @jimw7550
      @jimw7550 24 дня назад

      Replace the blower motor.

  • @davidgapp1457
    @davidgapp1457 Год назад +13

    Here is the simple truth. The technology behind American HVAC is years, if not decades, behind the times. As for the installation costs? They are utterly absurd and out of control. The installation cost of a high efficiency unit should not differ significantly from a middle or lower tier system. The complexity lies primarily in the compressor component and hooking it up isn't some kind of special voodoo magic. It uses the same gas, a lubrication fluid, and it needs an evacuated system that is then filled and pressure tested for optimum performance. That's all there is to it. But when I got a quote? $3,800 for an older 410A system. Then $4,500 for a 454B system. Then $8,600 for a top-of-line Carrier Infinity system. WHY?

    • @SqueakyHinge
      @SqueakyHinge Год назад +8

      Become a contractor and you will find out why.

    • @davidgapp1457
      @davidgapp1457 Год назад +3

      @@SqueakyHinge The irony is that I design commercial systems and I know exactly the work involved. The reason I am not a contractor is the outrageous apprenticeship you are required to serve in Arizona.

    • @davidgapp1457
      @davidgapp1457 Год назад +9

      @@SqueakyHinge Also, as I am a engineer, I challenge you to explain why installing a Carrier Infinity 26 system is worth twice the price of installing a Carrier 16 SEER system.

    • @TerrenceLP
      @TerrenceLP 6 месяцев назад +3

      Just need to hunt around for a good person 1st, then go from there. Biggest disappointment is the home owner can't buy certain brands directly. Imagine having to buy a car through a mechanic because when it breaks they won't let you work on it 🤷

    • @LouisS-cs7bh
      @LouisS-cs7bh 4 месяца назад +1

      @@davidgapp1457 notice crickets from squeakyhinge!! When we built our home, we had two carrier infinity systems installed and had nothing but problems!! Like you said…. No justification for the increase in costs.

  • @cobbles62
    @cobbles62 11 месяцев назад

    This whole thing irritates me to no end. Single phase inefficient PSC motors with contactors, basically 100 yo ford model-T technology, sold as "comfort", decent variable speed systems sold for 5-6 times the price for which you can buy a Toshiba or Panasonic, and Big brother intrusion added as an advantage instead of what it means: we can't build reliable stuff so we automatically inform the dealer to come and deliver some expensive and overpriced service.

  • @heatingairservices8708
    @heatingairservices8708 9 месяцев назад

    @ about 21 mins In ..Its great news Evap Coils Hopefully leak free one for the Life of the system ...& easier to Clean like - Slant Coils Not A & N Coils & Yes Ones That Will Fit bc a few years Ago new Sheers rating from 10 up 12 - 13 - 14 now 2023 - 15 sheer 2 min someplace ..But made Coils So Much Taller all us Installers had to So Much FUN Cutting & or replacing return & Supply Plenums making them Thing Fit ....St Ac coils & Hp Air handlers were the worst ..Luckily Most New Gas Furnaces now days are shorter Than Old days .... height 34-" + or so helped ..But in The South we Do Tons of HP

  • @artallmon3773
    @artallmon3773 4 месяца назад

    Ha good luck finding knowledgeable tech’s who know how to use the new diagnostic technology. We are on our 3rd buy of Carrier products and the (Infinity) products are very expensive. In 2022 we had to settle for an A/C unit instead of heat pump due to product availability.

  • @rayl6599
    @rayl6599 7 месяцев назад

    I love my 25vna4, my 3rd carrier heat pump in 25 yrs. I will say however, that the defrost makes quite a bit of noise when the valve reverses (whooshing sound and later on a thump when complete). The first few days of freezing temps, I called out the installer to double check as I didn't know it was related to defrost at the time and it was quite noticeable. Maybe in the next generation, Carrier can look into improving this.

  • @charlesjackson9602
    @charlesjackson9602 11 месяцев назад

    in a air handler...when they age....cob webs...lint and dust get in around coil and motor...and with high side pressures...of todays refrigerants....and if a evap coil happens to spring a big leak...wonder how new low flamable refrigerants will do?...

  • @grigorkeshishyan3810
    @grigorkeshishyan3810 7 месяцев назад

    We need some info why carrier transducers failing fast so many are defective

  • @hanky640
    @hanky640 Год назад +1

    Why do you call all refergerants "Freon". I thought Freon was a DuPont tradename.

    • @kodonosaki9273
      @kodonosaki9273 Год назад

      Of course, Freon is a brand name of a line of refrigerants that is fading into history. Refrigerants, is the correct terminology for any of the mediums circulated within heating and or cooling units, in order that they can function as marketed.

    • @JFirn86Q
      @JFirn86Q Год назад +1

      Yes, he should be saying refrigerant.

    • @larrycumba2741
      @larrycumba2741 Год назад +1

      Freon has become a generic term.

    • @realSamAndrew
      @realSamAndrew Год назад

      Freon is shorter and more fun to say, and it sounds like a generic material like neon or xenon.

    • @dioncurtiscurtis3188
      @dioncurtiscurtis3188 Год назад +1

      It been called Freon for so long. If it ain’t broke right?

  • @K6TJO
    @K6TJO Год назад +1

    When are costs increases expected to recede?

    • @larrycumba2741
      @larrycumba2741 Год назад +3

      Never

    • @jasonjohnsonHVAC
      @jasonjohnsonHVAC Год назад

      Never.....greed isn't even hidden anymore.....they are all scrapping and scratching to get every nickel they can.

    • @billmoyer3254
      @billmoyer3254 2 месяца назад

      @@larrycumba2741 Ever

  • @andrewludwig9251
    @andrewludwig9251 11 месяцев назад +3

    Let's hope we can get new leadership at the national level to stop all this madness created by the stoke of a pen by someone who knows nothing of our industry.

  • @rkochair
    @rkochair 9 месяцев назад

    Curiosity question......you keep referring to refrigerant as Freon (the brand of an R22 refrigerant many years ago) Is that just a habit because so many people (customers and such) call it that? Like Kleenex is for tissues.

  • @D8099.
    @D8099. Год назад

    Hi guys. I’m ready to retrofit my entire house. When will the new 2025 pureon advanced units with sensors and new boards be available to buy for residential? Thanks so much.

    • @CarreraTrackOntheFloor
      @CarreraTrackOntheFloor 2 месяца назад

      Heat pumps with the Puron Advance are out now. Split systems roll out this Fall/Winter.

  • @cheekybastard99
    @cheekybastard99 11 месяцев назад

    SEER2 is an attack on minisplits that have no duct work, your minisplit doesnt look as great in seer2