The "Ammo Battle" series is awesome! Keep it up. I just ordered 9 different lots of Eley Match & 5 different lots of Eley Tenex to try out in my Bergara... hope it shoots just as well.
JOSH , GREAT VIDEO ..!!!! THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO ...!!!!!! YOU ARE A STRAIGHT SHOOTER ..!!!! HONEST AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS ...!!! .. DOUBLE G HERE ...!!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND VIDEOS , LOVE TO SEE THOSE TIGHT GROUPS...!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the video. I am setting my MTR with tuner up to shoot eley match because it is hard to find midas+ for the price I am willing to pay. I have enough midas + to run me through the rest of BR matches this year. You need to start a CZ club.
@@PursuitofAccuracy a big thank you, I just received the eley match EPS german select I really can't wait to try them and great job your ammunition test (sorry for my english but i'm french) ;)
I have an MTR and like your cheek rest. Where did you get that and did it fit correctly or did you modify it? I assume there’s screws down the top to hold it.
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you. I have basically the same rig minus your forearm rail. I also have the Lilja barrel, threaded, as I have a can. Still playing with ammo but some old Lapua Midas L is unbelievable. I just don’t have much left.
I know you did this video a long time ago, but find a lot of value in it still, as I just picked up a varmint MTR and threw an ARKEN ep5 on it. What Velocity Eley match doesn’t like the best and how much faith do you put in the velocity written in the label? I also line in NC and would love to shoot with you sometime. Keep up the great work!
Good info. I just got a CZ 457 MTR 16" trainer, been shooting all types of match ammo. I just shot the eley match also today for the first time. I was getting the same SD as you. But I did have a couple light primer strikes. Do you have a higher power firing pin spring in your rifle?
Everything is factory in the bolt. Are you running the factory barrel? Eley is kind of known for people getting light strikes with them depending on the barreled action
I have the CZ 457 Varmint MTR so I appreciate you doing this so I can consider your results when buying ammo This begs the question that maybe Lapua test center process doesn’t help find the best ammo for it
@@ronmartblog yeah but to be fair to the ammo it wasnt tested for that stock barrel. It was tested for the lilja barrel. I will probably do a lilja barrel ammo test series as well
I like your channel, just found it. I think you would have improvement in groups with more secure target stands. Your targets are very often moving with the wind and the impact from your previous round.
great video , a shoot at 6 months 22 lr. and i have a cz mtr 22lr , mine is threaded , i shoot bench rest 50 with a caldwell b rock front rest and seb rear , with a sightron s2 , and what a rifle , the guys here uses more anschutz , walhter , and turbo actions with schillen ratchet , etc. , one guy here tells the cz barrell it is so good like lija barrell , what can you tell about this ? thank s , and i learn a lot about ammo , etc in this video !
What velocities were you getting using the MTR barrel? Just chrono mine and it was 1145 avg….is that too fast? Chambered a round and ejected it to find markings on the bullet from being jammed into the rifling…. Any advice?
1145 is a little faster than what I like. 1100 fps and below is what I try and run, although sometimes its faster. The engravings are normal and a good thing. You want the bullet engaging the rifling as its chambered
@@birdman8480 it may compared to a bentz or sporter chamber but the lead on 22lr is very soft and easily engraved by the rifling, not a cause for concern
This wasnt intended to be a lilja vs mtr barrel. It depends on ammo. The lilha consistently is more accurate across lots of ammo. Sometimes the lilja beats the mtr by a small margin and sometimes a huge margin
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you a worthwhile comparison all the same. I would think each would have their own preference for make of ammo instead of same brand like for like. So next step would be a test with each barrel and their preferred ammo comparison. Cheers
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you a worthwhile comparison all the same. I would think each would have their own preference for make of ammo instead of same brand like for like. So next step would be a test with each barrel and their preferred ammo comparison. Cheers
Not a big difference between the barrels not enough for the money those czs are down town accurate by the way mighty good shooting brother. I just can't get the eley to shoot out of not one of three 457cz target rifle's that I have. Beagleman
i wish you would secure yor targets better its effecting you group size. i have 2 boxes of SK rifle match i can send you if your want they will shoot better then the center x. send me addres.
The reason for the target opening up is the placement of the targets don't you see that there is always the third and fourth target are always the ones that open up? Place the target up and down 2 2 and one just saying try that. Beagleman
@@PursuitofAccuracy no that is from observations of your targets and if you watch it happens in almost all your videos. I'm not criticizing you I will take help from anyone sorry I mentioned it . Yours in the sport. Beagleman
@@lewisrice3741 dont take that the wrong way brother. I wasnt disagreeing with you. Just saying the way i was setting up on them may be the larger concern. So basically something I should fix vs changing target layouts.
The "Ammo Battle" series is awesome! Keep it up. I just ordered 9 different lots of Eley Match & 5 different lots of Eley Tenex to try out in my Bergara... hope it shoots just as well.
Holy smokes where did you order that from
JOSH , GREAT VIDEO ..!!!! THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO ...!!!!!! YOU ARE A STRAIGHT SHOOTER ..!!!! HONEST AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS ...!!! .. DOUBLE G HERE ...!!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND VIDEOS , LOVE TO SEE THOSE TIGHT GROUPS...!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice video! Thanks again!!!!
Would like to see the barrell change part sometime
another great video. Thanks for the upload !
Great editing skills
Thanks brother
Keep going! Appreciate your sharing with.
Thank you
Interesting stuff, thanks.
Great vid, love the 22lr, a little but closer to see clearly the group could be perfect
Yeah working on another down range camera. That camera is probably a foot off the paper. Any closer i would probably accidentally shoot it lol
You provide good information and quality videos. Thanks your time and efforts are helpful.
Appreciate it
Great stuff , keep up the great content.
Appreciate it
Looking good. 👍🏻
Thank you.
Love your videos, excellent
commentary 👍🏻👏🏻 precise and to the point but not interested tuning in to listen to your intro. music video 😉
Very enjoyable video. Thanks for all your efforts
Thanks
Excellent video and presentation 👍🏻
Thanks Jim
Thanks for the video. I am setting my MTR with tuner up to shoot eley match because it is hard to find midas+ for the price I am willing to pay. I have enough midas + to run me through the rest of BR matches this year. You need to start a CZ club.
Thanks John. Yeah any of the lapus is pretty hard to get right now.
I wouldnt have any idea how to set up a cz club honestly
hello, thank you very much for this absolutely amazing ammo test on the 457 MTR.
have you tried eley match eps or german match ammo ?
Eley match eps style ammo is what i primarily shoot now.
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks you so mush, have you noticed a difference with the eley match round nose ?
@@Nico-zv1pz i dont shoot the round nose to be honest
@@PursuitofAccuracy a big thank you, I just received the eley match EPS german select I really can't wait to try them and great job your ammunition test (sorry for my english but i'm french) ;)
Great video. I really enjoy your chanel. What scope are you running and what reticle?
Thanks!
Athlon helos btr gen 2 prs6 mil reticle
@@PursuitofAccuracy Josh I've been trying to find that scope in-stock to buy, but everyone is out or back ordered.
@@richfreeman739 email me. I will check in the morning and see if my dealer has one.
Joshuathomas4125@gmail.com
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks I will do that
I have an MTR and like your cheek rest. Where did you get that and did it fit correctly or did you modify it? I assume there’s screws down the top to hold it.
Its a victor titan cheekrest. Its not a perfect fit but it will go with force, and yeah screws
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you. I have basically the same rig minus your forearm rail. I also have the Lilja barrel, threaded, as I have a can. Still playing with ammo but some old Lapua Midas L is unbelievable. I just don’t have much left.
I know you did this video a long time ago, but find a lot of value in it still, as I just picked up a varmint MTR and threw an ARKEN ep5 on it. What Velocity Eley match doesn’t like the best and how much faith do you put in the velocity written in the label? I also line in NC and would love to shoot with you sometime. Keep up the great work!
Good info. I just got a CZ 457 MTR 16" trainer, been shooting all types of match ammo. I just shot the eley match also today for the first time. I was getting the same SD as you. But I did have a couple light primer strikes. Do you have a higher power firing pin spring in your rifle?
Everything is factory in the bolt. Are you running the factory barrel?
Eley is kind of known for people getting light strikes with them depending on the barreled action
@@PursuitofAccuracy yes everything is factory CZ 457. Model 02325
Great info and thx for sharing :)
Thanks
Nice! Will check out your other posts too.
Appreciate it
Nice rifle, what is the cheek rest you’re using
Val
It’s a Victor Titan cheek rest .
Thanks, I shoot a CZ 452 Military Trainer. Very nice rifle and very accurate at 100 yards
Val
I have the CZ 457 Varmint MTR so I appreciate you doing this so I can consider your results when buying ammo
This begs the question that maybe Lapua test center process doesn’t help find the best ammo for it
In all fairness the lilja barrel was tested on the 457 at lapua, not the stock mtr barrel
@@PursuitofAccuracy how is that barrel doing with the best lot from Lapua? Did you post any video of groups with the best lot they identified?
@@ronmartblog the lapua center x in this series is the lot from the test center.
@@PursuitofAccuracy this one - ruclips.net/video/IMgXaGFDfgc/видео.html ?
@@ronmartblog yeah but to be fair to the ammo it wasnt tested for that stock barrel. It was tested for the lilja barrel.
I will probably do a lilja barrel ammo test series as well
I like your channel, just found it. I think you would have improvement in groups with more secure target stands. Your targets are very often moving with the wind and the impact from your previous round.
Yeah that got fixed a few videos later. Thanks
great video , a shoot at 6 months 22 lr. and i have a cz mtr 22lr , mine is threaded , i shoot bench rest 50 with a caldwell b rock front rest and seb rear , with a sightron s2 , and what a rifle , the guys here uses more anschutz , walhter , and turbo actions with schillen ratchet , etc. , one guy here tells the cz barrell it is so good like lija barrell , what can you tell about this ? thank s , and i learn a lot about ammo , etc in this video !
Josh..
What type of cheek riser are you using, and is it a permanently mounted one??
Thanks
Its a victor titan cheek riser. It is semi permanently attached
What lot # on the eley match
1021-05036
And if my eley is correct the 10 is for rifle match and 21 year of production.
Machine 05 and its batch 36 from that machine this year.
@@PursuitofAccuracy thanks for the info!
What velocities were you getting using the MTR barrel? Just chrono mine and it was 1145 avg….is that too fast? Chambered a round and ejected it to find markings on the bullet from being jammed into the rifling…. Any advice?
1145 is a little faster than what I like. 1100 fps and below is what I try and run, although sometimes its faster.
The engravings are normal and a good thing. You want the bullet engaging the rifling as its chambered
@@PursuitofAccuracy I was thinking that would cause a change in pressure resulting in higher velocity.
@@birdman8480 it may compared to a bentz or sporter chamber but the lead on 22lr is very soft and easily engraved by the rifling, not a cause for concern
Very good video thank you. Not enough difference to justify lilja. CZ mtr performed well. .05" av difference or 1.27mm i believe.
This wasnt intended to be a lilja vs mtr barrel. It depends on ammo. The lilha consistently is more accurate across lots of ammo. Sometimes the lilja beats the mtr by a small margin and sometimes a huge margin
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you a worthwhile comparison all the same. I would think each would have their own preference for make of ammo instead of same brand like for like. So next step would be a test with each barrel and their preferred ammo comparison. Cheers
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank you a worthwhile comparison all the same. I would think each would have their own preference for make of ammo instead of same brand like for like. So next step would be a test with each barrel and their preferred ammo comparison. Cheers
@@rikoshea765 yeah true. I have shot a lot of ammo through both and the lilja is definitely a worth while upgrade
What cheek riser do you have in your MTR?
Its a victor titan cheek rest, little bit of a diy deal
@@PursuitofAccuracy thank you!
Hey PoA , whqwt scope are you using in the CZ 457 MTR videos? Thanks
Most of the videos were filmed with the Athlon Helos btr gen 2 scope. Future videos will be done with the Athlon Cronus btr gen 2
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thanks again
Excellent Video. Let's Go Brandon!
Not a big difference between the barrels not enough for the money those czs are down town accurate by the way mighty good shooting brother. I just can't get the eley to shoot out of not one of three 457cz target rifle's that I have.
Beagleman
Want to sell the center x?
I dont have that center x anymore
Is me or is the target moving
i wish you would secure yor targets better its effecting you group size. i have 2 boxes of SK rifle match i can send you if your want they will shoot better then the center x. send me addres.
I appreciate it, very generous of you.
Shoot me an email at joshuathomas4125@gmail.com
Im working on a fixed target stand for 50 to hold paper
The reason for the target opening up is the placement of the targets don't you see that there is always the third and fourth target are always the ones that open up? Place the target up and down 2 2 and one just saying try that.
Beagleman
If the target placement is causing issues lile that id be more worried about my setup
@@PursuitofAccuracy no that is from observations of your targets and if you watch it happens in almost all your videos. I'm not criticizing you I will take help from anyone sorry I mentioned it . Yours in the sport.
Beagleman
@@lewisrice3741 dont take that the wrong way brother. I wasnt disagreeing with you. Just saying the way i was setting up on them may be the larger concern.
So basically something I should fix vs changing target layouts.
Thanks for the video