Thank you for the great 4 parts series, it addresses much of the issues I am checking myself. I am shooting a CZ457 with stock non MTR barrel and found out that Eley Match is by far the best for my rifle. In particular is doing very well at 100 yards with 0.5 moa groups on no wind days.
If anyone thinks there’s a possibility that Josh is the party responsible for the occasional flyer, he’s shooting a 9 pound rifle with an 8 oz trigger off a concrete slab for these 50 yard tests. If it’s not a “called” flyer, it’s the ammo.
I like to "reason with myself" that if it's slightly to the left or right (and there's no x-wind), it's a "flyer". If it's simply too high or too low, it's the ammo.
If I was consistently getting .3 to .4 inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards I’d be doing cartwheels🤸♂️🤸♂️ 🤸♂️ . However Josh is in the Pursuit of Accuracy so the search goes on for even more consistently accurate 22 long rifle ammunition. Great stuff 👍.
I'm just now finishing up my build and i'm getting very similar patterns with top tier stuff from my MTR barrel. A lot of cloverleafs with an occasional flier. Im hoping it will tighten up a bit more once broken in. Need to get a good FFP scope now so i can get some practice in.
With the current ammo shortage I consider myself lucky to have CCI Standard stock piled. 10 cents each with built in flyers but sorting by primer thickness and getting 1/2” groups. Making KYL targets all the way to 8. Enjoy your videos and subscribed. 20 to 30 cents a round defeats the purpose of shooting a 22lr. Cheap, fun and long lasting the only way to fly.
@@PursuitofAccuracy You're welcome! Good work! I am doing similar tests with my CZ455. 22lr ammunition is really unpredictable in each barrel works different. I achieve good results even with the CCI Std....
Just wondering if you do your ammo tests from a clean bore and do you find that 10 rounds is good enough to season the barrel. I see so many posts about how many rounds to shoot to season the barrel. I have tried shooting up to 25 rounds of quality ammo and also shot 10 rounds of ammo with no noticable difference. So I am only shooting 10 rounds now.
I have never had reliable consistency with Eley in my CZ MTR. The only ammo I use is SK. Its so far been the most consistent over time. In particular SK Flatnose Match.
Got to use whatever works, especially these days. If it were 2 years ago i would tell you to get a test lot package for whatever was in your price range but that doesnt exist in the pandemic
Josh love the videos. I notice that it seems you have a tighter bolt closure which I assume is due to the headspace you use. Am I correct in what I see?
Running Tenex through my MTR didn’t impress me much. I’ve been well-pleased with SK Standard Plus and have found that Eley Match and Eley Club outshot the Tenex.
The match ammo varies quite a bit lot to lot. The eley tenex, match, etc are actually the same ammo run off the same machines. Its sorted by standard deviation of mv and consistency and then placed for sale. Tenex will have the lowest sd followed by match and so on. This doesnt guarantee your gun will like it more but given your gun likes those particular lots of tenex and eley match the tenex will be better at distance. Same story with lapua and sk
Hey, added the same Lilja barrel to my cz457 and having trouble with ejecting spent round casings. Particularly with tenex, and sk ammo. I’ve set the headspace at .043. Any tips or ideas? Thinking to cut the headspace to .041...
@@Klay_Kennedy no problem at all. Just make sure bolt close feels smooth at .040 with a chambered round. I worked my way down 1 thou at a time until i got reliability
Yes you can buy a CZ or a voodoo and shoot some match ammo get tiny groups and it's very satisfying what I think is more satisfying is buying a Ruger 10/22 a Green mountain barrel and a $200 scope and doing just as good that satisfying
I partially agree and partially disagree. Seen lots of great 10/22's and owned several. Ive seen them shoot outstanding groups at 50 but when you start pushing out to the further stuff the bolt actions usually seperate themselves quickly. Appreciate ya watching and commenting
@@PursuitofAccuracy I guess I should have said it a little bit differently what I mean and what I meant was if everything goes right and you have one of them days where everything is perfect your gun your ammo a Ruger 10/22 can do real good at 50 yards but it definitely not as consistent so you're right and you're very good at what you do I love your attitude I like watching everything about you you're one of the best
Was looking for a review on eley tenex but everybody seems to prove it has to be shot out of a thousand-dollar rifle or better does anyone do a eley tenex review with just a regular 22
Well, you got some decent groups, but as a KYL shooter, one flyer in a five shot string will get you a participation trophy. I like Eley ammo but it produces an unacceptable number of fliers with even the high-priced stuff. Like another commenter I’d say what you’ve shot is equivalent to SK Standard Plus.
Thanks Mate , interesting results for such high price rounds.
Thank you for the great 4 parts series, it addresses much of the issues I am checking myself. I am shooting a CZ457 with stock non MTR barrel and found out that Eley Match is by far the best for my rifle. In particular is doing very well at 100 yards with 0.5 moa groups on no wind days.
Another great video . Thanks for doing these performance tests
Good review and thanks for sharing :)
My new cz457 vptmtr loves the Lapua CenterX. Great video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Every barrel has its own favorites for sure
If anyone thinks there’s a possibility that Josh is the party responsible for the occasional flyer, he’s shooting a 9 pound rifle with an 8 oz trigger off a concrete slab for these 50 yard tests. If it’s not a “called” flyer, it’s the ammo.
Haha appreciate that John. The setup makes it awefully hard to pull a shot.
I like to "reason with myself" that if it's slightly to the left or right (and there's no x-wind), it's a "flyer". If it's simply too high or too low, it's the ammo.
If I was consistently getting .3 to .4 inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards I’d be doing cartwheels🤸♂️🤸♂️ 🤸♂️ . However Josh is in the Pursuit of Accuracy so the search goes on for even more consistently accurate 22 long rifle ammunition. Great stuff 👍.
Thanks for another great video .
Appreciate ya
Thanks for sharing the information and video
My pleasure
Great video, thanks for the content. Did I see you in a video with X-Ring ?
Yeah i have a few cameo roles in a few of his match videos 😂😂.
Him and Rick from Is your 6 covered are good people
I'm just now finishing up my build and i'm getting very similar patterns with top tier stuff from my MTR barrel. A lot of cloverleafs with an occasional flier. Im hoping it will tighten up a bit more once broken in. Need to get a good FFP scope now so i can get some practice in.
With the current ammo shortage I consider myself lucky to have CCI Standard stock piled. 10 cents each with built in flyers but sorting by primer thickness and getting 1/2” groups. Making KYL targets all the way to 8. Enjoy your videos and subscribed. 20 to 30 cents a round defeats the purpose of shooting a 22lr. Cheap, fun and long lasting the only way to fly.
Yeah wish i had a good pile cci sv
Good video! Interesting results...
Thanks
@@PursuitofAccuracy You're welcome! Good work! I am doing similar tests with my CZ455. 22lr ammunition is really unpredictable in each barrel works different. I achieve good results even with the CCI Std....
@@oldglock3903 cci sv does decent for me at closer distances but quickly falls apart at 100 yards or further
@@PursuitofAccuracy Yes! It is true! It can also be seen in the videos. I shoot max. 50m, unfortunately. :-)
@@oldglock3903 at least you dont have to be super picky about ammo at 50 meters
Thank you.
your videos are the best when it comes to rimfire, congratulations ... I will record brazilian videos about rimfire and yours are my inspiration
I really appreciate that
Good test
Would like one of your t shirts. Hope you make them soon!
I have some made now. Email me at joshuathomas4125@gmail
Just wondering if you do your ammo tests from a clean bore and do you find that 10 rounds is good enough to season the barrel. I see so many posts about how many rounds to shoot to season the barrel. I have tried shooting up to 25 rounds of quality ammo and also shot 10 rounds of ammo with no noticable difference. So I am only shooting 10 rounds now.
You need a shirt with a good nine shot group and a wide flyer captioned 'It is what it is'.
I have never had reliable consistency with Eley in my CZ MTR. The only ammo I use is SK. Its so far been the most consistent over time. In particular SK Flatnose Match.
Got to use whatever works, especially these days. If it were 2 years ago i would tell you to get a test lot package for whatever was in your price range but that doesnt exist in the pandemic
Josh love the videos. I notice that it seems you have a tighter bolt closure which I assume is due to the headspace you use. Am I correct in what I see?
It is a little tighter due to headspace
Running Tenex through my MTR didn’t impress me much. I’ve been well-pleased with SK Standard Plus and have found that Eley Match and Eley Club outshot the Tenex.
The match ammo varies quite a bit lot to lot.
The eley tenex, match, etc are actually the same ammo run off the same machines. Its sorted by standard deviation of mv and consistency and then placed for sale. Tenex will have the lowest sd followed by match and so on.
This doesnt guarantee your gun will like it more but given your gun likes those particular lots of tenex and eley match the tenex will be better at distance.
Same story with lapua and sk
Was the velocity close to the same on both ammos. Try and find some Tenex with the same speed as your Match ammo.
I honestly cant recall now
Hey, added the same Lilja barrel to my cz457 and having trouble with ejecting spent round casings. Particularly with tenex, and sk ammo. I’ve set the headspace at .043. Any tips or ideas? Thinking to cut the headspace to .041...
Everyone has had that issue that i know of. I had to go down to .040 to get it to 100% extract tenex
Did .everything else eject at .040 ? Don’t shoot this tenex that much but definitely want everything to eject
@@Klay_Kennedy yeah everything was good to go at .040
Thank you sir
@@Klay_Kennedy no problem at all.
Just make sure bolt close feels smooth at .040 with a chambered round. I worked my way down 1 thou at a time until i got reliability
What causes a flyer? 9:05
Yes you can buy a CZ or a voodoo and shoot some match ammo get tiny groups and it's very satisfying what I think is more satisfying is buying a Ruger 10/22 a Green mountain barrel and a $200 scope and doing just as good that satisfying
I partially agree and partially disagree.
Seen lots of great 10/22's and owned several.
Ive seen them shoot outstanding groups at 50 but when you start pushing out to the further stuff the bolt actions usually seperate themselves quickly.
Appreciate ya watching and commenting
@@PursuitofAccuracy I guess I should have said it a little bit differently what I mean and what I meant was if everything goes right and you have one of them days where everything is perfect your gun your ammo a Ruger 10/22 can do real good at 50 yards but it definitely not as consistent so you're right and you're very good at what you do I love your attitude I like watching everything about you you're one of the best
When your shooting groups adjust your scope to shot high so you don't shot your aiming point away
Was looking for a review on eley tenex but everybody seems to prove it has to be shot out of a thousand-dollar rifle or better does anyone do a eley tenex review with just a regular 22
Best advice I can give ya is to look at whatever ammo is in your budget and figure out what youd like to shoot and test lots in that ammo.
Is it difficult for you to have the target attached to something so that is does not move?
Nope. If you look at any of the later videos i made a target stand for 50 yard paper that resolved that issue
@@PursuitofAccuracy I did see that after commenting.....great shooting by the way.....always great shooting.
@@ej7447 thanks
It was the third target. Great shooting brother.
Beagleman
Well, you got some decent groups, but as a KYL shooter, one flyer in a five shot string will get you a participation trophy. I like Eley ammo but it produces an unacceptable number of fliers with even the high-priced stuff. Like another commenter I’d say what you’ve shot is equivalent to SK Standard Plus.
Check out my 150 yard kyl video with the eley and the cz 457 with the lilja barrel, you will enjoy it