Awesome content as always, and appreciate you doing the biathlon. And I could not agree more concerning companies that choose to gouge and those who don’t!
Thank you for providing the ammo sources. At the very least I can learn what decent pricing should be and use it to find reputable deals. Really appreciate you sharing this and the videos. Thanks again.
Shooting SK pistol match special Green Box and their Semi auto Black Box, gave me similar results in my CZ457 MTR as this test. Maybe the 100 yard tests will show more difference.
You're doing a great service for the .22lr community and I very much appreciate it! Where I live, the PNW, I have to get it wherever I can find it and not worry about it, which does not find me in my "happy place" as often as before this c19 B.S. I don't shoot much target ammo, mostly hunting grade ammo, but I would shoot more target if it were readily available. My big plan when I bought my CZ MTR was to set it up for shooting ground squirrels and other pests and long distance field shooting for fun and to keep in reasonable shooting form. Being educated by your tests and knowing what ammo is likely to shoot well in my MTR is a great advantage and will save me money when I'm shopping around for target ammo, THANKS!
Great series, tahnks for taking the time to do this. Can you do one on Aguila Super Extra 40 grain? For me, I use that and the Tac 22. Curious to see how it stacks up. Thanks
Thanks for your reviews. Many folks review ammo and don't really see much of a difference in ammo. We know there's a difference. I know this guy can shoot.
I've bought ammo from many places but I love Good Shooting and Champion's Choice. They will get my money before those gougers. Haven't tried that biathlon but I'm going to the Lapua test center in a couple months so I'm holding off.
Really enjoying the content, would love to see some of the top contenders shot suppressed? I have been shooting SK for years in my target pistols and now in my Vudoo, have had great results with the ammo. Also would love to see some channel swag (decals, patches etc…).
Hey Josh - this is a great series. Thanks for shooting it, and your comments about ammo was spot on. We are really feeling it here in Canada. $C22 for Lapua Midas Plus! I shoot a CZ 457 LRP I am testing for shooting benchrest. I have done a similar ammo test. Right now I am testing a tuner on the barrel which is a bit of a challenge. Keep up the great productions!
Love your videos man! Keep them coming! Love seeing your daughter into the shooting as well. Great job dad! I have a ruger precision 22 lr that shoots cci subsonic really well. Thinking about getting into 22 lr shooting challenges. Cheers from Montana!
@3:00 I understand there are bad-apples (cheaperthandirt for instance) but most are just following normal supply and demand practices. A normal seller in a normal market does not just sell the product at purchase price + markup. The seller has to replenish the stock at the current wholesale price if it's higher he charges more for current stock with an eye on the cost of getting more stock. In the ammo world the average retailer does not sit on inventory. It's always moving in and out so he has to charge a price that allows him to bring in the next batch. The same is true of commodities like gas. The gas does not sit on the location long. It has to be purchased from the wholesale market every week or day depending on demand.
Having worked with both of the major ammo suppliers for match ammo you can be assured they are not increasing pricing to the retailers. They are increasing prices due to limited quantities. There are several select retailers still selling ammo at reasonable prices.
Salut Josh, May I enquire what reaction your wife has to the new look? My wife said she would not marry me until I shaved mine off ……. halfway through that process she said stop! We are married now 46 years ….. still with my beard ……. just saying ….. I am not commenting on the lack of yours of course. Excellent video as ever. Regards Robert
Shot RWS TARGET RIFLE today from my CZ 457 MTR. Sorted by weight. It made a slight difference. Might try sorting by rim thickness for fun as well next time! Makes a difference with the cheaper ammo, probably not so much at the top end as that is all the manufacture does in keeping higher tolerance and charges more! Consistency that’s all it is. I know you did a video on sorting…..off topic a little! Please do a RWS TARGET RIFLE video to add to your top 11. Thanks!
Can you compare the MTR factory barrel to the varmint. Is it worth the money to get the MTR. Thanks love the channel! CZ457 Varmint and synthetic are my babies.
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thanks I have been debating on ordering the upgraded MTR barrel for my varmint with the the Turkish walnut but I’m just not sure how much I will gain for the money or if I should dive off the cliff and get a Lija 20 inch. It’s a lot of money 340 for the CZ MTR barrel replacement upgrade and 450 for the lija 20 inch barrel replacement.
That’s $318 for 1000 rounds (Tenex) $246 (Eley match/Centre X) now try buying just a couple of boxes to see what your rifle really likes😂😂 Oh! And we can’t get stuff posted to us and no Cabelas or Walmart, you guys across the pond have it pretty easy!!! Kind regards to all👍
SK ammo used to be third rate ammo before it fused with Lapua. I remember trying it out many moons ago, and found that the bullet was actually loose in the cartridge case.
How about some crap ammo. Like automatch or Federal bulk or thunderbolt. Is there any volume ammo that will shoot well at 50 yards. I'm not going to buy 10 dollar a box ammo for teaching my kids to shoot 22. I grew up on a marlin and tons I mean tons of thunderbolts. Man I had a good childhood. Thanks man
Hey Buddy Nice shooting Mate that ammo looks to be very accurate I shoot only SK high velocity match after trying just about every thing else through my CZ455 varmit , 20 inch l would give biathlon a try but it’s not available over here , what are your thoughts on high velocity ammo v subsonic at 50 yards it’s got me confused why my rifle will only shoot the high velocity stuff accurately at 50 which contradicts everything that I have read and been told , it would make an interesting video to see the difference in accuracy between high and subsonic ammo through your rifle I would love to see that and I’m sure a lot of your supporters would also please give it a try . Steve from Australia .
Sk high velocity will be my next ammo test. At 50 hv or subsonic wont make a difference. The hv falls apart further down range as it transitions from super sonic to sub sonic.
The testing you do on your channel is great info. Your running a mostly stock cz. So it’s nice to see what may work in my cz. Please continue thetesting. Like in the us canada is having trouble with match availability too. Keep it coming.
Thanks Josh. I'm definitely going to check out your supplier recommendations. Looks like some great ammo to try. Enjoy this format, always nice to hear your comments. I've always noticed in your vids that the tree in front of the bench looks like it might have been nicked by some projectiles. Is your face cold now ? 😉
The tree gets beat down by the squirrels and the cat that thinks she can hunt the squirrels. Definitely not cold in this heat we have in NC right now but do miss the beard already 🤣🤣
You guys are lucky. We only have 2 brands of ammo to choose from at most retailers. And alot only sell the local brand. They only sell match specialty ammo in a few stores and they are in very short Supply and are only in the major cities. Not to mention they are double to triple to their suggested retail price.😩
Nice grouping from that sk . The sk line does very well in the cz line of rifles for sure . Another great video brother . And I write down every price gouger I see and will never buy from them again. Keep the vids coming bro there great
Awesome test Josh, could you talk about how you clean your 457. Kinda want to know what your favorite solvents and patches are, and what are the critical areas to oil. What bore guide do you use to clean your cz457, i'm not having much luck finding one to fit the cz457
@@mariogaudiomonte5866 if used properly I think the BoreSnake is just fine for everyday maintenance. For storage or long periods between firings, IMO you need to do some deep cleaning so will need a few more bits and pieces. Hope that helps.
@@ccwilder3 primer compound also makes a big difference, especially in something with a minute charge of powder compared to a relatively large amount of priming mix.
The SK BS excels at long range. I’ve been shooting 6x5 targets at 300 yards all summer. Last week the BiathlonSport gave me my best average yet. It beat out everything I’ve tried including everything in the Lapua and SK lines including my Marengo lot tested Center X which does great at 100 yards.
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I agree entirely with remembering who wanted to take advantage of the “situation.” Midway is dead to me.
Add cheaper than dirt to the list
@@pbuehner Cheaper Than Dirt gouges inside or outside the COVID-19 envelope. Their name is the perfect oxymoron.
Great series
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Awesome content as always, and appreciate you doing the biathlon. And I could not agree more concerning companies that choose to gouge and those who don’t!
Thank you for providing the ammo sources. At the very least I can learn what decent pricing should be and use it to find reputable deals. Really appreciate you sharing this and the videos. Thanks again.
Shooting SK pistol match special Green Box and their Semi auto Black Box, gave me similar results in my CZ457 MTR as this test. Maybe the 100 yard tests will show more difference.
Nice shooting as always. Would be cool to see how well SK Magazine can do as it's at the most affordable range of the SK lineup.
Josh, you are the face of cz and precision rimfire. keep up the fantastic, honest, factual videos.
Thanks brother
You're doing a great service for the .22lr community and I very much appreciate it! Where I live, the PNW, I have to get it wherever I can find it and not worry about it, which does not find me in my "happy place" as often as before this c19 B.S.
I don't shoot much target ammo, mostly hunting grade ammo, but I would shoot more target if it were readily available. My big plan when I bought my CZ MTR was to set it up for shooting ground squirrels and other pests and long distance field shooting for fun and to keep in reasonable shooting form.
Being educated by your tests and knowing what ammo is likely to shoot well in my MTR is a great advantage and will save me money when I'm shopping around for target ammo, THANKS!
That ammo works best for me so far! Works well past 100 yds too!!
This channel has rekindled my love of my 22 rifle. Thanks man I forgot how much I love it.
Thats awesome John 👍👍👍
Great series, tahnks for taking the time to do this. Can you do one on Aguila Super Extra 40 grain? For me, I use that and the Tac 22. Curious to see how it stacks up. Thanks
Thanks for your reviews. Many folks review ammo and don't really see much of a difference in ammo. We know there's a difference. I know this guy can shoot.
Thanks brother
Love watching your videos. 😊 just got 4 boxes last night to test in my Cz.
9 marks ahead of Lapua center x I think you should repeat the test with Lapua
Stop stock piling guys, that is playing into the greedy retailers hands!
Before watching I just tried some out of my RPR it did great, but had fliers....
Thank you for the heads up on ammo sources. BTW, I'm enjoying this series and appreciate the info you've shared on your channel.
Thanks Mark
I've bought ammo from many places but I love Good Shooting and Champion's Choice. They will get my money before those gougers. Haven't tried that biathlon but I'm going to the Lapua test center in a couple months so I'm holding off.
I know this is old but i would love to see how eley force does
Watching those orange straps blowing just shows how a light breeze will open the group's.
Really enjoying the content, would love to see some of the top contenders shot suppressed? I have been shooting SK for years in my target pistols and now in my Vudoo, have had great results with the ammo. Also would love to see some channel swag (decals, patches etc…).
We have some shirts now but may see if there is any interest in some patches etc
Hey Josh - this is a great series. Thanks for shooting it, and your comments about ammo was spot on. We are really feeling it here in Canada. $C22 for Lapua Midas Plus!
I shoot a CZ 457 LRP I am testing for shooting benchrest. I have done a similar ammo test. Right now I am testing a tuner on the barrel which is a bit of a challenge.
Keep up the great productions!
Thanks Ken. Hoping the rimfire ammo comes back to normal(ish) soon. Thanks for commenting
Nice groups
Thank you.
Thanks for another great video Josh!
Love your videos man! Keep them coming! Love seeing your daughter into the shooting as well. Great job dad! I have a ruger precision 22 lr that shoots cci subsonic really well. Thinking about getting into 22 lr shooting challenges. Cheers from Montana!
Thanks Anthony. You will have a blast competing with the rpr
Thanks for testing this ammo, Josh and for the supplier recommendations as well. Good shooting!
Thanks cmndo
Nice shooting as always
Josh, could you tell me what bipod you have there. Can't quite see the brand. Love your site.
Atlas bt46
@3:00 I understand there are bad-apples (cheaperthandirt for instance) but most are just following normal supply and demand practices. A normal seller in a normal market does not just sell the product at purchase price + markup. The seller has to replenish the stock at the current wholesale price if it's higher he charges more for current stock with an eye on the cost of getting more stock.
In the ammo world the average retailer does not sit on inventory. It's always moving in and out so he has to charge a price that allows him to bring in the next batch. The same is true of commodities like gas. The gas does not sit on the location long. It has to be purchased from the wholesale market every week or day depending on demand.
Having worked with both of the major ammo suppliers for match ammo you can be assured they are not increasing pricing to the retailers. They are increasing prices due to limited quantities.
There are several select retailers still selling ammo at reasonable prices.
Gonna have to try some of that ammo in my 457!
Have you ever shot a CZ 452 American . I got 2 that out shoot my 457
I have not
What happened to your cheek riser?
Its on my competition gun. Waiting for the replacement to get here
Salut Josh, May I enquire what reaction your wife has to the new look? My wife said she would not marry me until I shaved mine off ……. halfway through that process she said stop! We are married now 46 years ….. still with my beard ……. just saying ….. I am not commenting on the lack of yours of course. Excellent video as ever. Regards Robert
Shot RWS TARGET RIFLE today from my CZ 457 MTR. Sorted by weight. It made a slight difference. Might try sorting by rim thickness for fun as well next time! Makes a difference with the cheaper ammo, probably not so much at the top end as that is all the manufacture does in keeping higher tolerance and charges more! Consistency that’s all it is.
I know you did a video on sorting…..off topic a little! Please do a RWS TARGET RIFLE video to add to your top 11. Thanks!
Good solid info. Thank you for the video.
No problem
Does anyone know the difference between the Eley Match and Eley match EPS?
Are you going to try Wolf Match
Yes i do plan on testing it
Can you compare the MTR factory barrel to the varmint. Is it worth the money to get the MTR. Thanks love the channel! CZ457 Varmint and synthetic are my babies.
I can. I have a 16" standard and 16" mtr barrel
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thanks I have been debating on ordering the upgraded MTR barrel for my varmint with the the Turkish walnut but I’m just not sure how much I will gain for the money or if I should dive off the cliff and get a Lija 20 inch. It’s a lot of money 340 for the CZ MTR barrel replacement upgrade and 450 for the lija 20 inch barrel replacement.
I just bought a 457 Cz and I didn’t even know about this ammo
SK Biathlon shoots good out of my Chacon custom 10/22 clone also.
Enjoyed your video, thanks.
Top end match ammo in the UK at the moment is running around £230
And SK long-range is around half the cost
That’s $318 for 1000 rounds (Tenex) $246 (Eley match/Centre X) now try buying just a couple of boxes to see what your rifle really likes😂😂 Oh! And we can’t get stuff posted to us and no Cabelas or Walmart, you guys across the pond have it pretty easy!!! Kind regards to all👍
@@clivenewton7609 had to get a brick of each but found a tuner really helped with tenex
Btw Biathlon and Long Range are the same velocity. Biathlon has a cold weather lube.
What kind of price is the sk ammo normal anyhow I saw some at 12.00$ a box
SK ammo used to be third rate ammo before it fused with Lapua. I remember trying it out many moons ago, and found that the bullet was actually loose in the cartridge case.
I have not seen anyone try Eley Match Pistol. But that may be because of availability.
How about some crap ammo. Like automatch or Federal bulk or thunderbolt. Is there any volume ammo that will shoot well at 50 yards. I'm not going to buy 10 dollar a box ammo for teaching my kids to shoot 22. I grew up on a marlin and tons I mean tons of thunderbolts. Man I had a good childhood. Thanks man
Automatch is probably gonna be the best out of the bunch.
Golden bullet has a excellent pattern for a 12 bore 😂
Keep chatting. Works for me.
Excellent.
Thanks
That’s y I don’t buy center x
What about testing Federal Gold Medal?
Nice video, thanks.
Trying to get some
That’s great. Nice job. I’ve subscribed 👍🏻. Can you please show how you have made your dope card and holder?
Hey, i appreciate it.
The dope card and holder is from coletac. They call it the cheat sheet
Thanks for the video. Groups look great. Thanks for the input.
Appreciate it Tim
Hey Buddy
Nice shooting Mate that ammo looks to be very accurate I shoot only SK high velocity match after trying just about every thing else through my CZ455 varmit , 20 inch l would give biathlon a try but it’s not available over here , what are your thoughts on high velocity ammo v subsonic at 50 yards it’s got me confused why my rifle will only shoot the high velocity stuff accurately at 50 which contradicts everything that I have read and been told , it would make an interesting video to see the difference in accuracy between high and subsonic ammo through your rifle I would love to see that and I’m sure a lot of your supporters would also please give it a try . Steve from Australia .
Sk high velocity will be my next ammo test.
At 50 hv or subsonic wont make a difference. The hv falls apart further down range as it transitions from super sonic to sub sonic.
Can you share the lot #'s of you test ammo ? I know it will perform different in individual guns but might help ? Thanks
Yeah i will post them in the community section this weekend
The testing you do on your channel is great info. Your running a mostly stock cz. So it’s nice to see what may work in my cz. Please continue thetesting. Like in the us canada is having trouble with match availability too. Keep it coming.
Thanks I appreciate it
Thanks Josh. I'm definitely going to check out your supplier recommendations. Looks like some great ammo to try. Enjoy this format, always nice to hear your comments. I've always noticed in your vids that the tree in front of the bench looks like it might have been nicked by some projectiles. Is your face cold now ? 😉
The tree gets beat down by the squirrels and the cat that thinks she can hunt the squirrels.
Definitely not cold in this heat we have in NC right now but do miss the beard already 🤣🤣
You guys are lucky. We only have 2 brands of ammo to choose from at most retailers. And alot only sell the local brand. They only sell match specialty ammo in a few stores and they are in very short Supply and are only in the major cities. Not to mention they are double to triple to their suggested retail price.😩
Dang that really sucks
Nice grouping from that sk . The sk line does very well in the cz line of rifles for sure . Another great video brother . And I write down every price gouger I see and will never buy from them again. Keep the vids coming bro there great
Thanks brother
Lapua’s stepsister showing up strong
Yes sir
Awesome job shooting over the weekend
Thanks
What's the shortest ud run a 22 barrel
For precision rifle....18"
Awesome test Josh, could you talk about how you clean your 457. Kinda want to know what your favorite solvents and patches are, and what are the critical areas to oil. What bore guide do you use to clean your cz457, i'm not having much luck finding one to fit the cz457
I'm only using a bore snake on mine. I'm not sure that's a good idea or not !
@@mariogaudiomonte5866 if used properly I think the BoreSnake is just fine for everyday maintenance. For storage or long periods between firings, IMO you need to do some deep cleaning so will need a few more bits and pieces. Hope that helps.
One more time SK high velocity.
Next on the list
Nice groups
Thanks
I wondered how the biathlon ammo was different. Any particular reason why biathletes would prefer more velocity or is it just a marketing thing?
Not sure honestly. I know some is made hotter for colder climates
Biathlon ammo is suppose to use a different powder that has more reliable ignition and burn characteristics in extreme cold
@@ccwilder3 primer compound also makes a big difference, especially in something with a minute charge of powder compared to a relatively large amount of priming mix.
Great shooting. General question for you...which is considered more accurate...a front rest like Caldwell Rock...or a Bipod.
Thank you
Bipod can be just as steady
@@PursuitofAccuracy one more foe you...do you measure you groups center to center or edge to edge and subtract bullet diameter?
@@theunforgivenpuritan4102 i just measure them center to center
@@PursuitofAccuracy me too.
The SK BS excels at long range. I’ve been shooting 6x5 targets at 300 yards all summer. Last week the BiathlonSport gave me my best average yet. It beat out everything I’ve tried including everything in the Lapua and SK lines including my Marengo lot tested Center X which does great at 100 yards.
All European ammo is test at 50 meters in a tunnel not 50 yards! Join the rest the world. cheers
This is America. We shoot our unregistered rifles in our backyards like cavemen.
Head on over and make me a 50 meter tunnel whenever your ready👍👍
@@PursuitofAccuracy Hi, I'm in Australia would love to visit have a shoot and build a tunnel with but we are in lockdown now! cheers mate
In UK we shoot 50yrd outdoors, and thank God we ain't European anymore, laws and red tape where suffocating..
Miles ,Yards and Feet and Inches 👍
@@TheWheels1965 that would be awesome. Hopefully they release you guys soon