Will Dragon Age Veilguard Decide Solas' FATE?
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- A Solas analysis about his Fate in Veilguard after the prologue reveal
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Sorry if I repeat myself a lot, this was an unscripted video I was just yapping, I'll be more careful next time 😓
Don't apologize, I think a lot of us can relate to just want to rant and vent about our favorite characters and stories once in a while. I certainly feel the same since I recently saw some comment compare Solas to Thanos, despite them being very different IMO.
Besides, for an unscripted video, I think this was still well thought out and it's not like you forced us to listen to it.
Haven't you been exisiting on little sleep due to the excitement of Veilguard the past few days? It's understandable! I love a good 20+ min video, which you've provided here. Looking forward to your upcoming Dragon Age vids!🥚🐺
Yap away! I forget things so easily I don't mind someone who finds something so interesting them mention it several times! As a side note, these last few videos I have had an easier time hearing you so thanks for that because I like your content. I am one of those people that want the veil to come down!
Yes...a lot of emotions.
A realistic Solavellan (not too repetitive, you're good)
I will decide his fate by fixing him
hes killed to many. his only redemption can be in a cell for eternity or the block
I'm not sure he will be saved. Those two evil gods appearing after the botched ritual look very angry, I'm worried that they'll tear him and Varric apart.
Like a dog?
i hope the inquisitor fixes solas by chopping both arms off with his special looking dagger and throwing him to a pride demon
@@ana_d_73T.T
I am not a Solasmancer (I romanced Dorian), but my Inquisitor deeply cares about Solas like a dear friend. So, of course, he's going to try his darnest to save his brother-in-arms.
Same but my romance was cassandra and oh would I love to see the beat down she would give him once he's brought back
I am both Solasmancer (on second character, dalish elf) and non-Solasmancer .. but even my first Vashoth Qunari mage was his bestfriend. Even my third Travelyan was his close friend, but especially my qunari. In neither scenarios I wish for Solas to die. And if he does, at least give him dignified death.
Same here. My Lavellan will try his best to save his friend from himself.
Samee
I like the fact that the demons that pour through reflect Solas' feelings during the ritual: *Pride* (That's literally what Solas means and is), *Anger/Rage* (The anger/rage of what he's done to the elves & state he left Thedas in after he created the veil), *Hunger &/or Sorrow* (His hunger to fix the world of the elves & sorrow for the atrocity he must commit)... Side note for Kala & everyone; I've uploaded the music from Veilguard if you want to listen or use it for your content 🥚🐺❤
I swear to God if they kill off Solas in the beginning I'll riot.
That may be the reason for the name change. And I'm worried they'll kill off Varric too.
be thankfull instead .
halo fans never saw how the cortana's story arc that started in halo2 ended it was just skipped for a garbage nostalgia focus game
I doubt it. They said inquisitor/solas story is very entwined.
I really, really want there to be a way to get a happy ending for Solas, but I also kinda want that ending to be really hard and specific to get. Something like Leliena's storyline in Inquisition, something, where a bunch of very specific details have to carry over, that you as the player are not aware are carrying over in that way, and it will be almost impossible to get the happier, ''bettter'', more preferable outcome on your first playthrough.
I want the possibility of a happy ending between him and my darling Lavellan to exist, and for that to be my ''cannon ending'' to strive for, since my Lavellan was a character that I got really invested in writing and got very attached to and still love very much. I want to their story to conclude, but for it to be a bumpy ride.
Like with everything else in this series, there will be multiple possible endings. For the Solas/Lavellan romance route, I would like for there to be at least three possible endings: the happy one that is super hard to get, one where they both die together, and one where he dies, but she is holding him and conforting him while it happens, thus making it so he is not alone when the end comes, safe-guarding him for his worse fear.
I really want to know what the storytelling reason is for Lavellan to not have been there at this moment, my mind was racing, thinking ''Why on Earth isn't Lavellan the one having this conversation and trying to appeal to him and call him to reason?''
And yes, I know its because most Inquisitors didn't romance Solas, but when your worldstate is one where these two have this much history together, and how dedicated such a Lavellan would be to try anything to save him from himself, and then the Inquisitor is nowhere to be seen in any of the published material, it really starts to become glaring, like ''What is she doing right now? Why isn't she here?''. It makes perfect sense for any Inquisitor to have gone underground and be doing their own massively important thing, but I'd like to get to know what that is/has been for nine years.
I would be so disappointed IF we won't get the chance to die alongside Solas especially for us Solavellans/Solasmancers.
I don't want my favourite character to die... I never felt so touched by a game character, never cried so much.
The thing that hit me the hardest in DAI was knowing that he's unhappy, that he broke up with my Lavellan, not allowing himself the tinest amount of happiness..
the way he kissed our Lavellan with so much passion as if he longed for that feeling to be loved.
The way he grabbed her..
"Var'lath Vir suledin"
Literally if he dies in the first 20 minutes of the game...as a Solasmancer I may have to come for bioware, because he is one of the few romances in the series where I wanna hope it works out, but know it wont. I just hope his death will have dignity.
So… my inquisitor wants to beat his ass. I’m really looking forward to the chance, if it exists. But for the sake of the Solasmancers out there… I really really hope their inquisitors get the chance to at least look him in the eye before something deadly happens to either of them. 😭
He needs to die! lol
Solas is the real hero we play as the villain
Yes a hero cannot be a hero without also being a tyrant. Depending on the perspective you are looking at
there cannot be good without evil to say it in different words
"every villain is the hero of its own story"
That would be an absolutely insane plot twist and I'm kinda here for it
WE CAN SAVE HIMMMMM
WE MUST SAVE HIM FROM HIMSELF
We can fix him
I think it would be cool to have some ability check to turn him from his evil ways.
Sloas, stop the murdering and come have some tea
Mana Clash
I always thought that Thedas is stuck in a time-loop that starts with the creation of The Veil and ends with its destruction, being Fen'Harel responsible for both. He is the unwilling Maker of the human world after all... but it was Flemeth who solidified this theory in my mind, talking and behaving from the very beginning like she already lived the events we were about to experience in the games. Quotes like "I nudge history, when it's required" or "There is a smart lad. Sadly irrelevant to the larger scheme of things. (to Ser Jory, who gets killed by Duncan shortly after)" come to mind. Last but not least, I don't think the introduction of time-magic in Inquisition was something random, but a hint of things to come.
If you think about it, a form of time magic could be why Solas says he did consider other options besides creating the veil. It's why he seems so sure about what he does, maybe he uses a magic that foresees possible futures. But it's limited in its use, like it can't account long term or unexpected changes.
Solas' arc of him trying to fix his mistakes, only to make things worse, might come to a full conclusion in Veilguard. While I don't think Solas will survive the events of Veilguard, I also don't think it'll be either Rook or the Inquisitor who will be responsible. Perhaps Solas' arc will come full circle and he'll finally fix all of his mistakes, but at the cost of his own life. At least, that's what I hope for him, as I don't want him to be killed by either my character or a person he considers a dear friend at worst. But I do hope that, when Solas dies, he won't be alone as he always feared. He will, at the very least, have the Inquisitor besides him.
Did Solas totaly fail, though? He may not have destroyed the Veil entirely, but he created a large enough tear to connect the two realms.
I'd also say that he hasn't accepted dying alone if he still fears it.
And he release two of the elven gods, which he looks really afraid of.
@@aerynstormcrow Rook released them by destroying the statues. We can assume that statues were some sort of barricade placed in past be Solas or his agents to make sure none Evanuris comes back. Well .. Rook just knocked down two of them.
@@cracmar03 thats just a theory though, its also just as likely that those two gods were always going to come through, after all its hard to imagine somehow destroying the veil yet ALSO somehow keeping the gods still sealed inside? How would that work?
I personally think that the gods were always going to come through and the reason we only see two isnt because of statues breaking but instead related to the 5 blights and archdemons, though how exactly i dont know
Technically Kala, Solas plans succeeded. Rook decided it’s Rookin’ time and rooked on the pillars, which foils Solas’ plans. It’s not Solas’ fault.
if rookin the pillars was enough to break his precautions, I'd reckon thats not OSHA compliant. Tis his fault, he be breaking down the veil either way
“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source” - ATLA, Uncle Iroh. Oh Solas. Learn to communicate with and trust the people who care about you.
Delusionally I want to have the choice to side with him and get to see the world he creates by tearing diwn the veil, to see the ancient elves, etc
That is my dream lol
I just want my Lavellan to have her Solavellan ending
I think the thing is with Solas is that once he is set on something he is blind to all else. He can’t see the forest for the trees type thing. His pride and arrogance make him blind to things outside his vision.
True, I also think he's very stubborn but his time with Inquisition had broken that up a bit. Hence his mention of trying to minimize the damage but once he's set, he's set
The only thing I can think of as a reason why the ritual was messed up by scaffolding was because it was rushed. I heard on twitter that the inquisitor and co have been trying to track him down over the years. And maybe the spell needed to take down the veil sensitive to time and barrier strength. So the area he is doing the ritual could be where he made the veil last time, or the place where it's best to do it at elven ruins. So he didn't make the statues he recovered them to draw/focus magic. Then sent all of his followers to go away asap because the area he does the spell is where the ripple effects are at its worst so they took shelter. He can't take his time preparing the ritual as much as he would like because he wants to get this done without outside or inquizzie interventioon
Solas needs to see that the world he knew is gone and cannot be revived. The trapped Gods killed it with their greed and lust for power and with all the time that has passed, the people and their ways are lost too. At most, he can teach them what they came from, but they can never be what they never were.
I feel like he's trying to save it because he could probably see how good it could be without the Evanuris corrupting it. He needs to let go... and just come home with me.
Bioware needs to do an ANIMATED series about the world/time he lived in. I would love to see it explored and how he became the person he is from the cocky guy he said he was.
I get what you are saying but have no evidence that the veil is necessarily a good thing for Thedas. It could very well be linked to the blight etc... Bioware never give us enough info to see the truth. That said, if he comes home with you he will still outlive Lavellan (who he could make immortal if he tears down the veil) and die alone anyway. If he stays he is reponsible for the death of the woman he loves despite the fact that she would never want that.
I've never really been against Solas since the veil is something that was create and not the natural state of the world. The veil isn't exactly the most stable and unbreakable thing as it gets torn every other Tuesday at this point plus I'm 100% sure that it was going to come down eventually even without Solas. It just makes sense that the person who created the it, knows the most about it, and the things the lay beyond it would be the best person to take it down safely with the least amount of damage possible.
He literally said in Tresspasser that the world will be destroyed when he does it wdym
@@silentsorrowbane He doesn't want to destroy the world he wants to return things to how they were before the veil. Alot of people are going to die in his plan but not everyone and it's probably far less than if we get something similar to when the Magisters tried to enter the Golden City that could just bring the veil down entirely next time.
@@Mari-zg5bw "i will save the elven people, even if it means your world must die", "but the return of my people means the end of yours", "as this world burned in the raw chaos, I would have restored the world of my own time", "why bother disrupting the quinari plot if you're gonna destroy the world regalrdless?" - "[..] i take no joy im what i must do"
Everything directly from Tresspasser. No idea what incorrect picture of Solas you got in your head but yeah
@@silentsorrowbane As I said he wants to return things to how they were before the veil. I trust Solas and Mythal far more than any of the other Elven gods that the world would be at the mercy of if the veil comes down. I'm not saying Solas has the best solution since I don't think we have a clear enough picture yet of what would happen exactly but it does seem preferable to some other likely alternatives. Of course we will probably get the answer to most of this in Veilguard so I'll just have to wait and see.
@@Mari-zg5bw why are you so delusional that you interpret his very clear words in a different way. You are weird.
Solas watching this on his iPad rn: :(((
GOOD LOL
Is it bad that I've always wanted Solas to succeed? I just love elves and I would love to see Arlathan.
I keep hearing whispers of either him or varric dying 😢
I KNOW IM SCARED
@@kalaelizabeth he's clearly scared too at the end of the trailer 😭
The worst outcome: BOTH DIE.
@@Bionickpunk that'd be a very messed up way to get us invested
@@Valakor If they Die together, at least Solas' biggest fear (dying alone) won't happen.
He is so obsessed with his mission at this point it is blinding him to so many things 😪 I dont want to be too doom and gloom tho... I know I will do anything I can to save his ass!!
Solas changed the natural state of Thedas and is responsible for the downfall of his own civilization. His story is about regret and accountability. Remarks as " loser " ; " save him from himself " ; " he is mad " and that kind of stuff is just silly.
What would be the proportional response or action if you were responsible for the destruction of your own civilization, knowing that you can undo your mistake ( veil creation ) ?
What would you do ? Just eat an icecream and move on ?!
And how many lives will be lost "undoing" that mistake? In my opinion Solas is treated far too leniently for yet another attempt at mass murder. Solas is a loser and frankly i will add another word on top of that... Solas is delusional.
there should be an option to side with Solas, especially if u play as an elf
Agree. My Lavellan would join him in a heart beat and help him wherever she could. If she could have shown up in Varric's place she would have told Solas to finish it while she guarded him.
@@angelofsol imagine how cool it would be and Lavellan could join Solas in Tresspasser and returns as a boss in Veilguard
Unless they do something to give Rook a personal reason to care about Solas, my Rook is going to have no issue with taking him out.
My Inquisitor however will save his best friend and Fade story buddy, and show him that there’s a better way forward
Curious: does Bioware have statistics on how many people choose to save vs stop Solas? Probably right? It is a choice in The Keep... perhaps it will be one of the choices in the "Previously in Dragon Age" section of DAtV's character creation?
Solas is a villain that I think can be saved, to have redemption to slowly fix everything that went wrong. I may say that because he ended up being my last romance in Inquisition and I came to like him much more than all the other characters. Not every story should end in tragedy, there should be closure for Lavellan and Solas, I hope they have at least a happy ending among all the bad ones.
We can fix him and we can save him; his desperation for having a better choice (a good one) is a good start to do things right. He doesn't have to haunt alone anymore because the friends he made on the Inquisition are willing to give him a second chance too, especially Lavellan who is his vhenan.
The most revealing thing that no one is talking about is your character's name, Rook. Rook originally symbolized a chariot. The Persian word
Rokh means chariot. In chess, the rook is the "Torre" (Tower). Remember the Rook is a unique piece that can move forward, backwards, or sideways. Also, it is a form of a knight and a type of crow as well. Crows being of the nature of being one of duplicity. I think this tell you a lot about the intent of the story for this character. Flexible, possibly of changing directions quickly. They are also referred to as guardians in certain cultures. I hope there is more discussion around the naming of the character. I think there is more weight on the movement of this game then revealed at this time.
Well said.
alterantive title: ''lady roasts solas for 20 minutes straight''
I think the group only managed to get closer to Solas in this prologue to make the plot of the game itself viable. Given the importance of Solas' mission and the character's own inherent power, he could limit or prevent the "conventional" approach of any hostile, interventionist or nuisance force. That is, under normal circumstances, this should require something other than killing demons to get to the naughty elf.
On the other hand, I hope the player has the evil opportunity to side with Solas' original plan (perhaps with the promise of gaining something from it) and sabotage reality's own chances of survival. I want access to a truly tragic and evil ending involving the protagonist's own intentions.
Honestly I don’t think solas should be able to walk away from this. He released elven gods he prison thousands of years ago. My guess he either killed in this scene or kidnapped but he shouldn’t be able to walk away from it.
@@kenpachiramasama1139 All good. I think it's reasonable, but I believe Bioware wouldn't miss the chance to adopt an unlikely, more diplomatic solution with Solas to satisfy pacifist/friendly players (or ex-lovers). I imagine that the end could be tragic and heroic as a kind of last redemptive sacrifice... depending on what the new threats may represent. I don't doubt anything about a more idealized conclusion...
@@ikarikaoka oh no you misunderstood me I meant whatever coming out of fade probably ancient elven gods are going to worf effect solas. Either just kill him then and there or take him captive cause “reason”(fear of fan outrage on BioWare part). This largely due to fact this the prologue where not the inquisitor and solas effectively “achieve” his goal at this moment. He no longer really has role to play that would make sense at this point.
This whole story beat felt very off - and yes the scaffolding is a part of that - I'm trying to give it the benefit of the doubt because it's heavily edited supposedly. It really felt like it should have been the Inquisitor, not Varric, who was talking to Solas at that point. All the dialogue felt "hey, let's summarize so you can remember what happened 10 years ago!" and that gave it a very rushed and odd feeling. Also, there's so much we don't know about Solas's story that I don't feel comfortable saying he's always losing. There are times when all one has is a bunch of crappy choices. Anyway, we'll see what's what soon enough I suppose.
Solas saved the Inquisitor, honor demands we save him back.
You know sometimes I think....
What if he felt rushed because there was a chance the Evanuris were going to escape regardless. Better to do it in a controlled setting and make the first move?
Or at least that he believes they will escape regardless if he tears down the veil or not...
But I don't see people talking enough about Flemeth and her possible influence in this.
I actually think he's just a pawn her larger game, and she is banking on him doing exactly this so she can have her revenge.
We can fix him
I will try to save him, but if I can't I will understand that as well.
Solas is like Jack "Illusive Man" Harper(Mass Effect). So blinded by his mission to "protect humanity", he doesn't realize he's indoctrinated.
Awesome essay!
In terms of character design, what the hell happened to Varric? Did he get merged with Blackwall somehow?
I think two, *maybe* three people could reach Solas: Cole, Anders, and the spirit of Wisdom reborn. Anders sounds like a weird choice at first, but they're both uniquely alone and regretful while also not remorseful.
But, I don't know what is/was in store for Anders and I don't remember offhand what Cole is up to...
Edit to add: Imshael is potentially dead but I can hear him howling with fury at the sheer audacity of Solas trying to un-choose a consequence. THAT'S my personal favorite choice.
I would love to see Anders come back in some kind of redemption role. I’d at least like to know if he’s out there somewhere or dead.
So excited about this, cant wait when they open pre orders 😁,the wait was worth it.
I need to bring this up because ive always had this theory. Solas made the veil and was the one who locked the gods away because it was the only solution. What if the only reason tevinter and the arlathan forest have difficult demons is because thats where the veil has the weakest points due to the blood magic weakening the veil and especially when the 8 magisters broke into the golden city? He said he took the necessary actions to lessen the damage. Possibly leaving tevinter to be destroyed because there's too little of the veil to hold back
Lavellan becoming Mythal or the 10th elven god probably of magic or something close to balance off of Solas (Solavellan route) those at this point it is a mystery.
I love how desperate solas slowly became in dai and you see it here at it's fullest
People are worried about the tone of the game but I feel this could be a harrowing game
Perhaps the name change was done because of Solas' eventual fate. The Dread Wolf is going to end up as the Dead Wolf!!!
i dont know if its just new direction with the voice acting, or if it means something important. But I noticed Solas didnt have the same poetic way of talking as he used to, is it a reflection of his desperation? of his loss of control? or is it a sign of possibly being possesed (like anders with justice)..?
For all the names others have given him, he chose 'Solas' for himself. As a spirit of Wisdom, brought into a physical body by Mythal, Solas or Pride is the oposite of what he is supposed to be. He wears it as a mantle of shame, as you see the Pride demon wolf/dragon hybrid form looming over him in his murals. It is always him as he wants to be seen and the Pride demon he fears he has become/is becoming.
He knows he has to cross that line eventually as in his current state he is still too weak, but I can imagine he fears it too. To loose himself completely and become what the other gods became as well; arrogant, prideful, no longer caring about anything other than power. But we still see Solas' good sides, he hasn't fully succumbed to the other side yet.
Unfortunately he has been so worn down by ignorance of those around him that he has lost the patience to make real friends and rely on them. Hopefully that is something Varric can still teach him, that relying on others and having someone watch your back can be the difference between loosing it all again or actually getting a win in for a change.
Damn, I need learn how to speak so clearly, very crisp audio! Great content too! Very intrigued to see what happens.
Great video on Solas. I'm curious to see how they handle him in Veilguard.
Solas is the reason for why we have the plots of DAI and DATV. This egghead never learns, make your rituals less likely to fail due to a random future MC blundering around.
He's smart but Prideful he doesn't think anyone would probably make it to him
It will probably be a story of a big bad even worse than Solas which he will help us destroy and thus redeeming himself
I honestly have never thought this much about this character, but I'm glad some people do. I have a feeling he will have a redemption arc after the other old gods pass through the Veil (his fault)
I love Solas and I really am excited to see where they take his story. I also really really hope that he joins us because it sure looked like to me in the reveal of game play he accidentally releases some of the Evanuras when the ritual fails. I am glad our inquisitor will be in the game as well since i romanced Solas and really want some closure of the relationship. I would love a happy ending for my inquisitor and Solas but I do not know if that is even possible.
I’m playing Inquisition right now and built an Elf mage as my first character just to romance Solus after learning more about him.
I think, he sacrifices himself and saves Varric and gives him his knife, at the end of the gameplay trailer once the gods show up.
Egg head’s dying line would be “sorry about Bianca here take my knife, lol” and then gets ripped into sheafs by the gods.
Think someone in Bioware knows how some of us get attached or relate to these characters. Morrigan made us feel like this since Origins days, too. Hence, the adamant love and hate relationship with Bioware with each game release continues to exist.
Solas is smart no doubt. But for some weird reason he is only smart when he is doing good stuff like joining the inquisition and leading them to skyhold.
He is giving Coryphishit the Orb which causes the explosion and death of Devine Justine and many others
He is causing qunari to disturb the exaulted councel
And finally he is keeping the statues up by wood pillars. If Rook was not disturbing it, a demon might have. It was very stupid tbh.
I think he was keeping demons away at ritual site. What he didn't took much protection from was .. well a mortal running up wrecking stuff.
Tremendous news to hear that DA Keep isn’t going to be a thing, no matter what I did on any run in DAI, I NEVER got that stupid system to work for the game.
Also want to say, I think Solas is certainly not a bad guy but a misdirected good guy, like an antihero. He has a sad story and it only seems to be getting more and more sad as he goes on with his life. Idk if The Veilguard will have him come to a realization that he needs to stop what he constantly does to avoid catastrophic consequences or if he’ll ultimately meet his end chasing the ends of his goals, I’m very curious to see what happens and I’d hope I can save him as this new hero if I can.
The elven chrome dome also known by his artist name solas is like the people that simply are in denial the world changed because of their actions long since passed but simply forgot to go out in a blaze of glory and let the future: future in his absence like flemeth does.
do we know how long it has been since the trespasser dlc? varric is much older maybe 10 years? if so I hope it has explained what has happened since then.
9 years since Inquisition!
Its been 9 years since Trespasser. There's a comic that explains why Varric looks so much older and this great RUclipsr (Ghil Dirthalen) has a video on it: ruclips.net/video/SCX07BgBz50/видео.htmlsi=5XKB3bVKtXql3sld&t=485
Thanks people much appreciated
I think if someone, either Rook or if there is an Inquisitor reunion can convince Solas that his own pride is feeding the demons he fought so hard to either protect or stop, that he may work with the Veilguard to bring his people back in other ways or to begin a new era of Elves by leading the remaining elves into a new future. That would make a great Dragon Age 5 where the roles are reversed and the other races are fighting to survive and the elves are choosing to increase their race and reduce others. I am a writer and I can see so much potential in continuing the Dragon Age story.
The moment I saw innocent civilians getting killed by the demons he’s unleashing, and how he brushed that off like they’re trash, even my Inauisitors who want to redeem him now want him dead since he’s now become an irredeemable monster.
Hope we get to control the Inquisitor during their inevitable encounter.
He's always been like that. Even in da:i, he'll express approval for you helping refugees. Seems nice and thoughtful, except.... for what? His big plan is to destroy them, anyway. So, I don't think he approves of helping people, I think he was approving of Inquisitor mirroring how he treated the ancient elves. He isn't seeing people, he's seeing a dream of his own people being where these refugees are and he was fully forcing himself to pretend the whole time. He even admitted he DIDN'T see people as real, he was viewing it as a big long dream so who actually cares about those people besides us? He continually disregarded the other races, too. Qunari? Disrespectful to them. If you're a Qunari Inquisy it's even worse. Varric? "Child of Stone" despite Varric's constant insistence that he's a surface dwarf and is uncomfortable with anything to do with caves. His full plan, as known from all his quotes in Trespasser, is he's going to destroy Thedas as it is. For himself. He's seriously the most selfish character I've seen. (Which is actually good writing to make me hate a character so much because I don't typically feel this invested, I like to give benefits of doubt, but it was impossible with Solas. Even as I romanced him to see what the fuss was about on my third playthrough, I just couldn't find those redeeming parts. He's wounded and he acts like he's the only one wounded. He's even willing to wipe out everyone who isn't his ideal to heal himself.) Pride really is his biggest flaw.
@@TonksTheFool You forget that he is seeing spirits. Remember his quest to help a friend. And how that spirit wailed in pain and got twisted into a demon. By end this demon transformed into a harmless spirit that just wishes to die. So it does. His friend is no more. All because of Veil and mages who can pierce with magic the veil wanted to summon it against it's will. If there was no Veil they wouldn't have to pull it out like this, mutilate it into raging beast .. and then remember mages. They saw a monster. What he saw as spirit, as person of magical source .. his long friend .. a monster, because of what these ignorant mages did to it.
As for Qunari .. I played as qunari, so like he wasn't only one having issues. Believe it or not, my vashoth has more issues with Iron Bull takes towards her. Besides Corypheus mocks us saying how we were 'failed experiment' so .. qunari aren't natural. Solas probably knows. He might know the origin of qunari, reasons why they exist.
Beyond that one of clues in DA 4 is that Solas has been for years now (?) on action of freeing Tevinter slaves.
"Child of Stone" is probably referring to Titans. But Solas won't talk about it bluntly because of how old that knowledge is. And well he is speaking terms from his ancient times, and dwarves, as confirmed by Descent were made by Titans. You are upset at terms he uses, he is type of person that because of how distant his own past is, is trying to distance himself from everything.
It was even visible in romance, where he apologizes that he can't do it. This whole time he knows, Veil is wrong. It needs to go. But tearing Veil down will probably destroy world as it is now. He is person desperately trying to not form attachments to anyone in team, because we live in a world that is fundamentally flawed because of his mistake. We live in a mistake. A horrid mistake that cases like that poor spirit friends fate confirm to him.
@@cracmar03 The Veil was his mistake, so all those suffering spirits were his doing, no one elses. Thedas, however, was around before the veil, so it isn't a mistake. Thedas had the elves and Arlathan long before the veil every made what it did. Sure, the veil was a mistake and it made many things in its wake, it adapted and evolved and all those things that happen in nature. HOWEVER that doesn't make it okay for him to break it. Instead, he wallows in his mistake, he takes his anger out on those who don't even know, whose reality is very much real for them. He's trying to turn back a clock that stopped ticking for him and instead of trying to fix the cogs and the gears, he's breaking the clock. That's not okay. I'd be much more sympathetic to him if he was open to other ideas and other ways. But he isn't. It's his way or the highway, because of course he has trust issues. The difference is he was SHOWN people trusted him. He was SHOWN signs that the world was good and people wanted to help. And instead he makes a cult, runs away and goes through with a break the clock plan. He's an idiot.
Solas looks like he could be played by Matt Smith.
Gosh the contrast between your tone of voice and calling Solas stupid is hilarious. If Solas had had one (1) guard/assistant this could have turned out a lot differently lol.
Solas is such a fascinating character, I really hope BioWare gives him a good ending and closure for the fans. I just want Solas to find peace… with a romanced Lavellan preferably but if not, just finding peace within him.
He can change if he would just LET ME LOVE HIMMMMM
As a Solavellan, the sheer amount of times you called that man an idiot has me cackling
My cannon Inquisitor romanced him, does believe in bringing back the greatness of elves, but she took it personally being dumped by him. Being a grudge holding hothead, she's has some words for him. It'll be interesting to see what type of options the game gives us for the Inquisitor and Solas past history and what we can do in the game.
Hes my friend, damn it, I promised him I would change his mind.
He isnt exactly a loser. He did split reality in two and successfully re-created the world and imprisoned the Evanuris.
I would call him a winner with huge repercussions. He always succeeds in what he wanted to DO. But with costs and consequences.
He believes he's powerful enough to do what he needs to, without unforseen consequences. That is his failure and he even points it out in the game he's aware of his own faults. But he doesnt feel he has a choice to do anything else.
He also reminds me in a roundabout way, a legendary historical figure like Alexander the Great. He has a vision, conviction and the power and will to do whatever is neccessarry to succeed.
Men followed people like Solas in real historical references because of that conviction and power. He feels he HAS to do this because the Veil was his responsibility and his greatest consequence that destroyed the world when he created it.
I can sympathize with that goal and why. Even if the results of what he wants to do is horrific. And if it were humans instead of Solas in this position I'm sure people would make every justification to putting humans back in the power position.
So the hypocrisy of wanting Solas to fail, when we would do exactly what he's doing for our people is too much for me to stomache.
Question: where was it confirmed that Veilguard takes place 9 years Inquisition/Trespasser?
I love how you point out that solas is a idiot. I always see a lot of people calling him a spirit of wisdom.
I see him as valour he rushes in and only sees one answer.
Though i think he wants to be wisdom at heart he will always be valour always the one that needs to do what no one else will.
I relate to solas
Confirmed by devs that Veilguard is set 10 years from the end of Trespasser
I still have weird niggling suspicions about Solas being a spirit of Wisdom that Mythal made to take a body somehow and Solas somehow became a strange kind of Pride demon when Mythal was killed. That would explain why he can’t break free of his prideful actions. It’s his whole essence because he was warped by being forced to go against his purpose. Like his Wisdom spirit friend that we saved.
I'd add, apart from being proud, Solas is emotionally stuck in the moment of realizing that the veil won't solve the elves' problem. He didn't just change reality, he destroyed it. And then, he wants to solve the problem by again destroying another reality. Like, Solas, get your act together, you're obviously not good at thinking about unintended consequences. That's not taking responsibility for your own actions, that's just trying to cope with your own overly simplistic thinking about how power operates.
One of the deep lore things of Dragon age, that not many people may recognize, it is based upon the books of Genesis (Origins), Exodus (Dragon Age 2), Leviticus (Inquisition), Numbers (Veilguard), and Deuteronomy (the next) - if Solas can be considered like Moses, freeing the enslaved elves, then Moses dies in Deuteronomy, he dies before the elves get their new homeland!
We already know there are other baddies in the game so I think (but it's only a theory) Solas will be convinced by Varric or someone else he knows (the Inquisitor?) what he's doing is wrong and he will help them.
9:12 I'm pretty sure the problem with this ritual is just lazy writing. It's haphazardly put together because it doesn't matter to the plot.
The plot just wants the old gods to be unleashed so that we can have lots of primary objectives for the "Veilguard" to tackle.
Am crossing my fingers that this game is good, If we could play as the champion one more time that would be awesome
First time I've heard "Solas is a dumb loser" as a lore theory lol
So I'm a casual when it comes to this series, and don't get too deep in the lore. But the two Dark Souls bosses that appear at the end of the trailer. Is he happy to see them? Is that what he was trying to do, open a rift to bring them through? Or are they an unintended consequence? Basically, how cooked is our egg in that moment? Are they the big bads? So many questions.
Nope not at all, them coming through was a shock because he was just taking down the veil so unintended consequence. People have already deduced who they could be by looking over symbols and signs all over the games. Let's just say they are people who hate him and are at his power level.
They are his enemies of past. The ones he locked up because they were monsters. The statues were probably some way of keeping Evanuris imprisoned, and our protagonist in ignorance to what Solas is doing destroyed them releasing two of them.
It's crazy that we're finally getting DA4. I hope Inky gets closure with Solas.
Let us fix him Bioware 😭
US SOLAS MANCERS BETTER GET OUR RECOMPENCE
There is a silver lining to not using Keep: when they inevitably take down the website, this game won’t be affected.
I’ll get over it because this game looks like a proper successor to everything the previous games have laid out!
Solas has always liked to believe he's the smartest guy in the camp...and then he does a thing to fix a thing he did that inevitably blows up in his face for the second time. I don't see that Solas won't keep on being That Guy. Despite my misgivings about the trailer and gameplay, I didn't get that Solas had some massive change besides cosmetic.
im sorry but its so funny to me how often you call him a pathetic loser, this is incredible /nm /pos
Is it 9 years after the ending of trespasser or the end of inquisition?
Inquisition
@@kalaelizabeth and trespasser takes place 2 years after end of inquisition. So this takes place 7 years after trespasser dlc right? I wonder if we will see the our Grey warden or Hawke again. I know we will customize our inquisitor I wonder if we will customize more of them like their romance and all.
I wonder if the other elven gods coming through will enslave Solas to their wills.
Well I doubt he going to be relevant in veilguard. This scene was obviously build up him getting the worf effect by the end of it. I’m not sure if he just get killed off or kidnapped but I just don’t seen him walking away from the elven god he imprisoned.
Damn Solas must of hurt your spirit lol
Humanity ever needs a fall Guy..... Solas is Not an evil one.
Nah im have to crack that solas egg he is couldn't even look at varric when he said. "I've took the necessary precautions to minimize the damage" the moment he got interrupted two gods open up the portal that had beef with him since the creation of the veil and maybe smoke him or grab him.
Solas's biggest flaw is that he truly believes he can't trust anyone else to help him. He genuinely thinks that everyone else is either too stupid or too powerless to "do what he can do" and that is what leads him to keep failing. He has no faith in the people he claims he is trying to save. If he had an ounce of trust, maybe none of this would have happened. If he gave the foci to someone he trusted rather than letting it fall into the hands of a fricking dark spawn maybe none of this would have happened. He's a big doofus.
What I ask myself is... Where are his agents?! o.o
PLEASE BIOWARE LET MY LAVELLAN BE HAPPY WITH HIM JFC
I want him to succeed
Maybe you need to fight a God with another god. Like a very old wise dragon, that is from the old ways, that had peace and comfort.