LDS leader apologizes after comments about Black members

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2022
  • A Latter-day Saint leader has apologized, saying he "made a serious mistake" for comments regarding Black members of the church during an event over the weekend.
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  • @danielblackham2290
    @danielblackham2290 2 года назад +34

    He never answered the question tho

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +2

      Because the whole talk wasn’t given in this snippet?

    • @Spawn303
      @Spawn303 2 года назад +4

      He passed it off on gods timing. He never apologized

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад

      @@Spawn303 it wasn’t just passing it off on God‘s timing. He was illustrating the point that when we don’t ask and seek for further revelation and challenge decisions made by our church leaders that it can leave us with bad mistakes. The priesthood ban was a mistake. And he spoke about that too.

    • @scottcassell3739
      @scottcassell3739 2 года назад +1

      @@rachelczumaya2806 I would really like to hear what be should have said. I would love for this all to be just a big misunderstanding. Its hard to get past the whole Blackness as a Curse doctrine, without addressing it directly, and removing it. Maybe they could say something like “that was the Oliver Cowdrey part of doctrine… and we all know that he left the church because of his disagreement with JS.” What do you think? Is it plausible that there could be “translation” errors when it comes to things that are clearly wrong like racism. I guess maybe its too big of a can of worms? They would inevitably have to revisit the whole Native Americans are brown business.
      Because of their unbelief the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness. Or “the Lamanites sall be dark filthy and loathsome people”

    • @pauletteforeman2194
      @pauletteforeman2194 2 года назад +2

      Because he’s a narcissist and doesn’t answer questions. He just twists it by asking another question to make it look like he’s the real victim. It’s terrible.

  • @ChowderTIO
    @ChowderTIO 2 года назад +120

    Why did he only apologize for his recent talk? He gave about the same talk in Georgia about two years ago. It’s on RUclips as well.

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +7

      Should he apologize for something being taken out of context?

    • @wesanderikaoneal9930
      @wesanderikaoneal9930 2 года назад +19

      @@rachelczumaya2806
      When something is based on a lie, it will always be indefensible. So Mormons don’t have a defense other than “you don’t understand” or “it’s out of context”
      I’ve watched the whole talk. I was Mormon for 28 years. He’s not being taken out of context.

    • @jordanalexander8099
      @jordanalexander8099 2 года назад +21

      You haven’t listened to the entire talk obviously. Nothing was taken out of context.

    • @ToddJumper
      @ToddJumper 2 года назад +25

      He only apologized because it has become public knowledge and they can not control non members. Quite certain he still believes what he believes, as he has been teaching it for years. The church is trying to fix the image real quick, but this is very common among leaders, and I doubt this will be the last time something like this happens, people gonna be recording more of these.

    • @ToddJumper
      @ToddJumper 2 года назад +14

      @@rachelczumaya2806 There was nothing out of context there. The dude is a misogynistic white supremacist like most LDS leaders, and I should know, I was among them for 35 years. People just do not like a mirror being held up to show them their own filth.

  • @maxjenkins7139
    @maxjenkins7139 2 года назад +10

    This is what you get when his environment is so insular.

  • @bosslady7611
    @bosslady7611 7 месяцев назад +8

    I'm a Black woman living in a predominantly Mormon area of my city. Missionaries make it a point to never come to my door. I see them all the time, but they have never stepped one foot onto my property. I probably could have left it there at the first sentence of my comment. That would have been enough said✌🏾

    • @senpai24yt38
      @senpai24yt38 2 месяца назад

      That is because they know they can't recruit you

  • @jenman1293
    @jenman1293 2 года назад +87

    Ending racism is all about God's timing? I don't think so! This church has real issues.

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +2

      The issue isn’t the Church. It is cancel culture who seeks to rile people up and cause contention over misunderstandings and words taken out of context. Newsflash, not everyone is as woke or aware as others are. Yet the “why don’t you know better” when woke ideas are very recently in the public discourse is really lacking in understanding. Give people a break and educate kindly. Otherwise it doesn’t help people do better. If our goal is to end racism, we have to do a better job educating people. And no one is educated by a spinster old miser teacher that condemns every mistake.

    • @jenman1293
      @jenman1293 2 года назад +18

      @@rachelczumaya2806 I was raised Mormon and left because of this type of bigotry. They know better, believe me.

    • @wesanderikaoneal9930
      @wesanderikaoneal9930 2 года назад +2

      @@rachelczumaya2806 a “spinster old miser teacher”?!
      I don’t think Brad Wilcox appreciates being called that, but you’re right… he’s not the person for the job

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +1

      @@wesanderikaoneal9930 I didn’t call him that. I’m referring to all of you guys to are throwing stones his way. You’re the spinster old miser teachers that condemn a mistake instead of tell someone to “go and sin no more.”

    • @wesanderikaoneal9930
      @wesanderikaoneal9930 2 года назад +2

      @@rachelczumaya2806 I was just messing with you. Ad hominem attacks are useless

  • @sorayafarah446
    @sorayafarah446 2 года назад +80

    The fact he says “the blacks” in 2022 ahhhhhhhh

    • @yeboscrebo4451
      @yeboscrebo4451 2 года назад +4

      Word police, get a life

    • @lizzicusmotion587
      @lizzicusmotion587 2 года назад +1

      I know 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

    • @legacy756
      @legacy756 2 года назад +2

      The blacks yes, they are the blacks and some people are the whites

    • @rydiddy3936
      @rydiddy3936 2 года назад +2

      @@yeboscrebo4451 pretty hypocritical from a church who doesn’t like being called Mormon, even after they spent millions of dollars on an “I’m a Mormon” campaign.
      Rusty Nelson is the Chief of Word Police

    • @yeboscrebo4451
      @yeboscrebo4451 2 года назад

      @@rydiddy3936 I don’t disagree

  • @SteveSmith-os5bs
    @SteveSmith-os5bs 2 года назад +47

    This is the second time I know of that this guy has made this exact same statement. No sincerity here. He was given the order to apologize and he did.

  • @d-alando7902
    @d-alando7902 2 года назад +10

    The blacks! The blacks!

  • @rh8528
    @rh8528 Год назад +6

    What did he say that was wrong?

  • @jeffs4483
    @jeffs4483 2 года назад +27

    Latter Day Racism.

    • @josephalberque5334
      @josephalberque5334 Год назад +1

      Correct. IMHO the Black Lives Matter movement needs to go after the Mormon Church and individual Mormons. MORMONISM IS THE CENTER OF RACISM AND WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!

  • @drew8256
    @drew8256 2 года назад +43

    Saw this on TikTok, it got millions of views. Talk about bad press. This guy ignored the fact that Carter’s threatened to take away tax exempt status, which prompted the change. It’s all about money, anyone in knows this fact. Just a money operation with church window dressings.

    • @haydonc5256
      @haydonc5256 2 года назад +1

      Of all the lies anti’s push about the priesthood ban, this one get on my nerves the most. There is literally not a shred of evidence to suggest that President Carter threatened to take away the church’s tax exempt status over the priesthood ban. None, Zero, Zip, Nada, yet you people push it like it’s the absolute truth. I mean this claim has literally no historical basis. Even the people on Ex-mormon reddit will admit that.

    • @drew8256
      @drew8256 2 года назад +1

      @@haydonc5256 lots of evidence to back this up, but if you like fiction and fantasy of the church doctrine , more power to you. I have given up trying to sway those who are on the koolaid diet these todays. I also have documentation of the church spending $18k per toilet in the JSMB building, but you would put believe that anyways. It’s hard to convince someone in a cult of the truth, enjoy the ignorance of bliss .

    • @haydonc5256
      @haydonc5256 2 года назад +2

      @@drew8256 Dude, you say "lots of evidence to back this up", yet you provide no evidence. Lol, whatever you say bro. You say you've given up trying to sway "those who are on the koolaid diet these todays." (nice grammar, lol) because you can't actually disprove what I'm saying. Also, what does the church spending money on toilets have to do with the priesthood ban?
      Also, like all anti's you just like to throw every buzzword at us just to get an emotional reaction and to get people to feel that you're right. Stuff like "Your in a cult" or "Your brainwashed".
      I guarantee you I've struggled a lot more with my faith than you have with your non-belief. I hated the church when I was a young boy. Hated going to church, hated the Book of Mormon, hated taking the sacrament, hated family home evening, hated all of it. I was converted to the church because I CHOSE to read the Book of Mormon, not because I felt obligated to.

    • @rydiddy3936
      @rydiddy3936 2 года назад +2

      @@haydonc5256 sounds like you should relax and have an ice cold Pay Lay Ale

  • @samuelawe8886
    @samuelawe8886 2 года назад +3

    No one should be suprised by this, if you know the history of LDS and black people this is nothing new.

  • @NITE_SHIFTING
    @NITE_SHIFTING 5 месяцев назад +6

    It's a C U L T !

  • @blackalien6873
    @blackalien6873 2 года назад +15

    He also made up a sexist story about an hysterical WOMYN confronting him about the priesthood and recalled his PANIC when his little daughter DARED to play giving a priesthood blessing. The horror!

    • @yeboscrebo4451
      @yeboscrebo4451 2 года назад +1

      Women do frequently get hysterical and the priesthood isn’t for women so….

    • @tawneenielsen4080
      @tawneenielsen4080 2 года назад

      Yup, sick and completely misguided. We are missing the point my LDS people. Maybe she played lawyer or doctor as well. Sick little girl.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      Alright, Black Allen

  • @ClintonJohnson714
    @ClintonJohnson714 Год назад +3

    What did he mean by that? Was he saying why it took so long for them to ban black people?

  • @kevinmartin173
    @kevinmartin173 2 года назад +117

    He's not apologizing for what he said he's apologizing for being caught

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +3

      Because his words were taken out of context…

    • @jeffs4483
      @jeffs4483 2 года назад +6

      @@rachelczumaya2806
      "The Blacks"? That's racist.

    • @kevinmartin173
      @kevinmartin173 2 года назад

      @@UnknownUser69698 ya ok

    • @scottcassell3739
      @scottcassell3739 2 года назад +7

      @@rachelczumaya2806 in what context would that speech be not racist? And why?

    • @SpecOpsDoctor
      @SpecOpsDoctor 2 года назад

      @@jeffs4483 No, It isn’t and he also said the whites but of course, that doesn’t count. Get a dictionary.

  • @redcurrantart
    @redcurrantart 2 года назад +60

    He only apologized because he was called out. He’s been giving the same talk for years. And if you read the whole ‘apology’ it’s very thin. As to BYU ‘reviewing’ the situation… Wilcox is a General Authority in the Young Men’s Presidency. BYU isn’t going to discipline a church leader. And… (dripping sarcasm here) can someone with the second anointing do anything wrong, really?

  • @Narrow-Pather
    @Narrow-Pather Год назад +4

    Another feigned apology.
    Just admit who you are, and what you teach and taught.

  • @javathehut3593
    @javathehut3593 2 года назад +3

    He only apologizes because the church asked him to he doesnt mean it

  • @cedarpoplar
    @cedarpoplar 2 года назад +20

    Sounded like a snotty girl being mean to her friends.

    • @tawneenielsen4080
      @tawneenielsen4080 2 года назад +3

      Let's not blame this on girls. Sounded like an arrogant boy who needs lessons in the fact that the priesthood isn't always right

  • @angelamurphy9472
    @angelamurphy9472 2 года назад +24

    Deeply concerned by BYU= Leading the public to believe something will be done, other than sweep his embarrassment under the rug. He offended every Protestant “who plays church”, to women, and “Blacks” with his condescending verbiage.

    • @mckayelder6060
      @mckayelder6060 Год назад

      What did he say that was wrong. People today do not understand truth when they hear it.

  • @ericnelson9100
    @ericnelson9100 10 месяцев назад +1

    How in the world does anyone who looks like this actually consider themselves to be physically superior to others?

  • @TheRealCantaraBella
    @TheRealCantaraBella 2 года назад +19

    Mixed race ex mormon here, but I felt like "the blacks" everday. The stuff said to me in singles ward made me leave. Oof.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      nobody cares

    • @kdpowers
      @kdpowers Год назад +7

      The more I learn about this sect of Christianity, the more evil I see.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад +1

      @@kdpowers lol

    • @kdpowers
      @kdpowers Год назад +3

      @@JD-zu2vl I thought they were all nice and played board games when theyre not in their short sleeved white button down shirts and ties always in pairs.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад +1

      @@kdpowers Find a people who are nicer. You can't.

  • @glassceiling100
    @glassceiling100 2 года назад +38

    I can't believe anyone would listen to this with anything but shame and dismay. Is this really what the LDS church has become? It's just SAD!

    • @torchbearer2175
      @torchbearer2175 2 года назад +17

      What do u mean become? It was always like that in the church, wasn't it that they believed blacks held impure souls?

    • @scottcassell3739
      @scottcassell3739 2 года назад +4

      Ask them what they think about Lamanites?

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 2 года назад +2

      His words speak volumes.

    • @dallantobler6144
      @dallantobler6144 2 года назад +1

      This is one guy….

    • @caseyjude5472
      @caseyjude5472 2 года назад +3

      It’s what it’s always been.

  • @hammockcamping2500
    @hammockcamping2500 4 месяца назад +1

    Why is this a racist remark? Why is an apology requested or given for what was said? I don't understand why this was a racist remark.

  • @azhotmom
    @azhotmom Месяц назад

    This is the very definition of sensationalism and stereotyping in the media:
    "reporting news stories in ways that makes the audience worried or excited, rather than reporting accurately."
    This news station played a sliver of a clip of what his reply was, so it's not fair to say "He didn't answer the question." The media carefully only played bits& pieces of a the reply.

  • @jameswinesgreenspunjhs8954
    @jameswinesgreenspunjhs8954 2 года назад +2

    Why Should black people be Mad ? Lol The Mormon church doesn't hold the Priesthood , The Mormon Church are not the Sons of Aaron and Are not Hebrew Israelites ,

  • @BiltsOne
    @BiltsOne 2 года назад +22

    This is terrible. Instead of brushing off the question of why "African Americans" did not receive the priesthood until 1978 with a rebuttal question of why didn't the whites ("and other races") receive the Priesthood until 1820? If he had just answered, "it was in the Lord's timing " in the first place and left it at that. It would be different. But it just sounds terrible. There are too many racial undertones in the LDS church, and white supremacy- privilege is drenched all over it. You wouldn't understand if you are not a person of color and haven't experienced it.

    • @scottcassell3739
      @scottcassell3739 2 года назад

      The whole Lamanite story is predicated on the curse of black skin. Mormons arent the only faith that preaches Racial Redemption, righteous black people being turned white at the second coming, but they did make it a cornerstone of their doctrine.

    • @dcarts5616
      @dcarts5616 2 года назад +3

      There are plenty of “people of color” as you say, in the Church. You should go ask some who are “high ranking” members their thoughts, why they remain in the Church, if you are sincerely concerned. God’s timing remains dependent on His children sometimes, and I know that the message Wilcox was trying to relay here could have been better. Thank you for your time.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад +1

      Bruh, everything you say is an undertone, you just don't see it from all the way up on your high horse.

  • @MeToo-py1tq
    @MeToo-py1tq Год назад +1

    This is a strategy the Mormons use and think they are so cute and clever. They will always approach a question as "Maybe you are asking the wrong question" this is how they rearrange it so they can seem like they addressed it

  • @Zero-se4xb
    @Zero-se4xb Год назад +1

    What is the correct term, I'm honestly asking so I know. Would the correct way to save it have been "black people" instead of "the blacks"? How do my friends with more melatonin perfer it? Do you like African American or People of Color, or is decribing someone as "a black guy" acceptable. Thanks for the perspective!

  • @MichaelJones-ke6fy
    @MichaelJones-ke6fy 2 года назад +2

    And so Heavenly Father is mocked and ridiculed again because men want what men want when they want it and they are crying when they get offended because of something that Heavenly Father says. Read the Scriptures but I guess people will find something in them to pick on as well.

    • @kaijusushi8165
      @kaijusushi8165 2 года назад +1

      Did you have a point to make about the actual statements made by Brad Wilcox during his talk?

  • @KenTheCurator
    @KenTheCurator 2 года назад +4

    wait,,, what?

    • @JayJay-sf2wn
      @JayJay-sf2wn 2 года назад

      Some leaders were meant to lead others meant to try us.

  • @HitmanChase
    @HitmanChase 3 месяца назад +1

    What did he say wrong?

  • @JayJay-sf2wn
    @JayJay-sf2wn 2 года назад +7

    🤦‍♀️

  • @babsfocker7751
    @babsfocker7751 Год назад +1

    never heard of him, but them mormons need to come to jesus and give up this BS

  • @norrinradd8923
    @norrinradd8923 Год назад +1

    Poor guy tanked his whole career in just seconds🧐

  • @IlFreddoDonna
    @IlFreddoDonna 2 года назад +11

    For people trying to smooth this over on his behalf, BYU is literally investigating what consequence will come from his conduct. His talk has been condemned by their equality office. As a member of the Church, I am quite pleased with the seriousness they appear to be taking. I wasn't expecting that, and it gives me hope towards continued cultural and accountability changes in the Church. We shouldn't need to be both members and survivors of the faith.

    • @redcurrantart
      @redcurrantart 2 года назад +9

      You really think BYU will do anything to a GA? Not likely.

    • @wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
      @wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 2 года назад +1

      Let me guess, you’ve never heard of zina diantha Huntington? Yeah that’s because this so called religion hides massive amounts of information from its members.

    • @SteveSmith-os5bs
      @SteveSmith-os5bs 2 года назад +4

      The BYU investigation will conclude with he is really sorry and there is nothing to see here folks let's move on down the road. If worst comes to worst they could always move him to work in the in the church office buliding.

    • @yeboscrebo4451
      @yeboscrebo4451 2 года назад +4

      “Quite pleased” with the word police and cancel culture? You’re insane

    • @scottcassell3739
      @scottcassell3739 2 года назад +1

      Right what else can they do anyone that believes the Book of Mormon, believes in the “Curse of Blackness” or black skin, and Race Redemption. Black people being resurrected as white people.

  • @silverthomas555
    @silverthomas555 2 года назад +7

    To add proper context, Fox News should have also included the talk two years ago, where he said exactly the same thing. Things that make you go, hmmm.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      No one cares about your hippie over reactions to everything to the point of nonsense.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      People like you just whine and don't stop whining. It's getting quite old for everyone else.

  • @princessirial
    @princessirial 2 месяца назад

    The most surprising thing about this was how no one tried to stop him from continuing his talk lol

  • @boydx4687
    @boydx4687 2 года назад +16

    I believe Bro. Wilcox's apology is helpful. I recall President Oaks saying the Church doesn't apologize. Why is that?

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +5

      That is taking words out of context. The church doesn’t apologize for doctrine. Misspeaks according to PC culture are another ballgame.

    • @ethanflippinarnold6935
      @ethanflippinarnold6935 2 года назад +2

      @@rachelczumaya2806 Thank you!

    • @jordanalexander8099
      @jordanalexander8099 2 года назад +3

      Because they received their second annoiting

    • @China-Clay
      @China-Clay 2 года назад +4

      @@rachelczumaya2806 nope, same ball game, they don’t say sorry in any category

    • @wesanderikaoneal9930
      @wesanderikaoneal9930 2 года назад +8

      @@rachelczumaya2806
      Here’s the whole quote
      "I know that the history of the church is not to seek apologies or to give them," Oaks said in an interview Tuesday. "We sometimes look back on issues and say, 'Maybe that was counterproductive for what we wish to achieve,' but we look forward and not backward."
      So… how was it taken out of context, exactly?

  • @damonm3
    @damonm3 2 года назад +48

    You guys missed so much. He offended just about every protected class

    • @Carl_ATHF
      @Carl_ATHF 2 года назад

      Protected class = can’t compete with superior whites

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      Mormons are a protected class too

    • @damonm3
      @damonm3 Год назад

      @@JD-zu2vl what’s your point? I don’t discriminate based on people beliefs. I have personal thoughts about them but I wouldn’t deny service because of it…

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @@damonm3 you clearly do

    • @damonm3
      @damonm3 Год назад +1

      @@JD-zu2vl I think if people can be Mormon people can literally believe anything. It’s pathetic how low the bar of evidence is for some. It’s easy to prove false but millions act as if it’s the truest thing on earth. Totally delusional

  • @derekzimmer6335
    @derekzimmer6335 Год назад

    Sad! How else to describe this behavior, except pathetically sad.
    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints only condones such behavior, when it announces that Brad Wilcox will be the commencement speaker at BYU Idaho’s graduation ceremonies on April 6, 2023. Such support for racism runs throughout Church history, including, but not limited to:
    1) In 1968, the John Birch Society (JBS) made an effort to nominate Benson (as an apostle and to later become President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-saints)as a presidential candidate, with segregationist Senator Strom Thurmond as Vice President, for which Benson sought and obtained approval from LDS Church president David O. McKay.[23]
    2) Several months later, Benson flew to Alabama to meet with segregationist Alabama Governor George Wallace, who asked Benson to become his vice presidential running mate for the presidency. This time McKay refused Benson's request, even after Wallace himself wrote to McKay.[24][25]
    Please reference the Wikipedia article for Ezra Taft Benson.
    George Wallace must have been even too much for the Church.

  • @markkrispin6944
    @markkrispin6944 2 года назад +3

    Creepy looking man.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      How do you know it's a man. Did you ask it how it identifies?

    • @markkrispin6944
      @markkrispin6944 Год назад

      @@JD-zu2vl ok, so "it" is a woman then.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @@markkrispin6944 Gender is fluid. Might be 2 spirit, maybe an asexual or intersex. How dare you. You should apologize!

  • @myrronbranch5090
    @myrronbranch5090 2 года назад

    What if Blacks boycott the military right now?

  • @selinaogorman8380
    @selinaogorman8380 2 года назад +8

    Brad never meant his apology most will never admit there racist it’s always been like that and will continue to do so and it’s just said yet current members accept this and still sustain there leaders no Matter what it’s a cult for a reason.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      You're just saying that cause he's the wrong skin color. Maybe you are the one being wayciss

  • @ndeamonk24
    @ndeamonk24 Год назад

    Why is 1829 significant?

    • @WasatchIntercept
      @WasatchIntercept Месяц назад

      John the Baptist restoring the Aaronic Priesthood, and Peter, James, and John restoring the Melchizedek Priesthood, are said to have both occurred in 1829.

  • @sb5107
    @sb5107 2 года назад

    I’m not understanding what he was saying in am not a primary English speaker or I’m getting confused. What is he saying

  • @pabloareas2258
    @pabloareas2258 27 дней назад

    This people are nuts, the only thing he shouldn’t be waiting is in being on a diet 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt
    @4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt 2 года назад +5

    Get em outta here!!!

  • @jevans1017
    @jevans1017 Год назад

    Matthew 7:15-20 seems like a definitive rebuked by Jesus against doctrines and "churches" like these.

  • @marcusmoses6529
    @marcusmoses6529 2 года назад +3

    Did this man actually say this???? Unbelievable

  • @tmac4809
    @tmac4809 2 года назад +7

    They always apologize lol

    • @ethanflippinarnold6935
      @ethanflippinarnold6935 2 года назад

      What are they supposed to do?

    • @wesanderikaoneal9930
      @wesanderikaoneal9930 2 года назад

      @@ethanflippinarnold6935 they’re not supposed to say what they really believe in a setting that is recorded or can be shared.

  • @glassceiling100
    @glassceiling100 2 года назад +4

    I think the church is trying to take down any criticism of the church on TikTok. Control much!

  • @democratsrepublicansbothan7973

    Europeans and biblical text goes together like a hand in a blender

  • @zon3665
    @zon3665 2 года назад +3

    There's a great book by an LDS author that shows that there's perfect harmony between the prophetic statements concerning the garden of Eden being in Missouri and the Old Testament account concerning the garden of Eden. It's called Canaan, Babylon, and Egypt A Comparative Theological Analysis on Creation sold by Eborn Books.

    • @thedon2703
      @thedon2703 2 года назад

      And you need to have an iq below room temperature to believe any of that nonsense.

  • @vindowmaker5819
    @vindowmaker5819 Месяц назад

    lol i don't get it What did he say? What did he need to apologize for?

  • @kaijusushi8165
    @kaijusushi8165 2 года назад +4

    This isn't just about race. Brad Wilcox was demeaning to women, blacks, people of other faiths and to doubting/former members of the church who are struggling with serious, legitimate questions about church history, etc. That kind of mansplaining, gaslighting and chicanery just won't cut it in the 21st century. People are waking up and asking serious questions about the church's policies and doctrines and this kind of roadshow presentation that Brad Wilcox made only serves to make people conclude that there are no legitimate answers.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      You are the one who is the hater here. You even just admitted it

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      Your opinion stinks

    • @kaijusushi8165
      @kaijusushi8165 Год назад +1

      @@JD-zu2vl - no questions allowed. Doubt your doubts.. .

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @@kaijusushi8165 ask all the questions you want, you'll just prove more and more that you're the hater here.

    • @kaijusushi8165
      @kaijusushi8165 Год назад +1

      @@JD-zu2vl - it will take more than an ad hominem attack on me to end the questions people are asking

  • @Trancymind
    @Trancymind Год назад +5

    This is something my dad will say if he doesn't admit a mistake by responding me asking me a questioning about another persons decisions or controversial lifestyle. I hated manipulation because it just shows immaturity, insecurity, not trustworthy and unapologetic.

  • @chevonbayless798
    @chevonbayless798 2 года назад

    He needs to apologize for the entire talk! The comment about blacks and the priesthood was only one of many, many ignorant and hateful comments!

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      Ok genius what else did the monster say

    • @chevonbayless798
      @chevonbayless798 Год назад

      @@JD-zu2vl I hope you're joking, not very christ like

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @@chevonbayless798 those silly tricks don't work on me missy

    • @chevonbayless798
      @chevonbayless798 Год назад

      @@JD-zu2vl lol I don't understand what you are trying to say but, have a great day!

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @@chevonbayless798 No one understands what you're trying to say

  • @jordanalexander8099
    @jordanalexander8099 2 года назад +14

    The church is not what it claims to be.

  • @marymerritt2881
    @marymerritt2881 2 года назад

    Sure he did 😒

  • @wildlyshy9885
    @wildlyshy9885 2 года назад +17

    I’m so glad I left this church.

  • @rsmith7589
    @rsmith7589 Год назад

    Jesus is Lord Radio. Listen: “THE LORD SPEAKS AGAINST THE FALSE DOCTRINES & RACISM IN THE PRESENT DAY CHURCH" on Repent and Prepare the way.

  • @krisd6090
    @krisd6090 2 года назад +29

    Brad Wilcox is a horrible human being…… and his representation of the LDS church makes perfect sense….

    • @boisedisabilitylaw
      @boisedisabilitylaw 2 года назад

      Since you know him so well...

    • @gregorjerman973
      @gregorjerman973 2 года назад

      @@boisedisabilitylaw His conduct shew him so well lol.

    • @legacy756
      @legacy756 2 года назад

      😂 Oh this antimormons are always so hateful

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      Youre horrible though lol

  • @mercedesbabel1496
    @mercedesbabel1496 Год назад +2

    Former Mormon here. Nobody has mentioned the real reason Blacks did not have the Priesthood until 1978. I was told as a Mormon that Blacks are the descendants of Cain who killed his brother Abel. For that he was cursed and his skin was darkened and this curse was passed on to all his descendants. Also look at the timing here: 1978. The Civil Rights Movement. The Church was afraid they could lose their tax exempt status because of their discrimination against Blacks. It is all about money volks! .

  • @runcamyt
    @runcamyt Год назад

    😮😧😦

  • @avoiceinsupportoftruth5
    @avoiceinsupportoftruth5 Год назад

    Seriously!!!!

  • @jacksykes2000
    @jacksykes2000 Год назад

    Got caught.

  • @allanandjana
    @allanandjana 2 года назад +10

    I'm pretty sure that if you were offended by this . . . . 1) You didn't listen to the entire message he was communicating. 2) you walk around in life just waiting to be offended, period. Satan is a master, in these last days, at getting to be so sensitive that we are offended by everything. This moves us to run and gather into groups of defense. We then lash out and want to "cancel" the "offender". This alienates us from each other and creates division in our culture. This is the exact opposite of the Nephites after Christ ministry in America. They lived in peace and harmony because there were no manner of "ites" among them they were of one heart and one mind. When we are offended by something . . . . it would be best to look inside and question ourselves as to WHY we were offended. If this talked offended you . . . . . hold on, what's coming down the road will freak you outta your ever loving minds. Now, go and love somebody y'all ! ! !

  • @mckayelder6060
    @mckayelder6060 Год назад +2

    I'm lost here. What did he say that was viewed as racist? He seems to be talking about the timing of the LORD In working with people.

    • @GMOripscrew
      @GMOripscrew 3 месяца назад

      It wasn't the lord's timing, it was the IRS's timing

  • @gjorinykreim6477
    @gjorinykreim6477 Год назад +5

    People make mistakes. Sometimes many times. We can assume he was asked to apologize, or we can forgive and choose to trust that he really is trying to be a better person and that he genuinely made a mistake. We all make mistakes. Over and over again. It happens. It's part of God's plan.

  • @rydiddy3936
    @rydiddy3936 2 года назад +6

    Brad Wilcox exemplifies the worst parts of Mormonism. Intolerance, arrogance, and avarice.

  • @chadluke5454
    @chadluke5454 2 года назад

    Whatever

  • @kaylahills3760
    @kaylahills3760 2 года назад

    Dislike 👎

  • @OS-yf3ko
    @OS-yf3ko 2 года назад +14

    His entire speech is filled with dangerous rhetoric. And such aggression. I’m so glad I left that church when I was young. Gotta say I haven’t laughed like I did watching this in a while lol

    • @johndooley661
      @johndooley661 2 года назад

      The s..t they said about blacks being an inferior race and all was worse . It was just normal discourse. They long believed blacks were racially inferior and his and many other general authorities beliefs are extremely inaccurate in that discourse.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад +1

      Church is probably better with you gone haha

  • @ronalddunlap9933
    @ronalddunlap9933 2 года назад +10

    What he said made sense. The Preisthood was restricted to certain groups at different times.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson 2 года назад +4

      It’s a made up thing. There’s no such thing as magic.

    • @joecrandle4969
      @joecrandle4969 2 года назад

      🤡

    • @ronalddunlap9933
      @ronalddunlap9933 2 года назад

      @@Richard.Atkinson ??

    • @crawfordcockers
      @crawfordcockers 2 года назад +6

      It ignor s the fact that the black members were restricted because of racist beliefs. Look up race and the priesthood gospel essay on the church site which basically says they got it wrong

  • @mtddmtdd1
    @mtddmtdd1 2 года назад +8

    Wilcox represents the Mormon Church. Don't blame him personally for what the church believes.

    • @redcurrantart
      @redcurrantart 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, but he’s bought in and us puppeting it… he’s not innocent either.

    • @susanbergman9765
      @susanbergman9765 2 года назад +1

      He's not an attorney for the LDS. He ranks as an upper level clergyman as compared to other churches. If an archbishop gives a sermon, he is not just representing the beliefs of the church as a corporate entity but presumably his own beliefs . Unless this particular job in LDS is in PR, and by the way he is terrible at that particular gig, he is speaking as an individual.

  • @BlaineHeggie
    @BlaineHeggie 2 года назад +8

    He had no need to apoligize. He wasn't making a racial statement. It was an AWESOME talk!

  • @AhmedAhmed-yz4rd
    @AhmedAhmed-yz4rd Месяц назад

    😂😂

  • @legacy756
    @legacy756 2 года назад +4

    Let's stop talking about racism please, I'm a brown member and I don't feel inferior of whites and I know the church is true with all my heart. I know all the points of criticism about the church and that hasn't affect my testimony at all.

  • @3rdleg151
    @3rdleg151 2 года назад +5

    Brad did nothing wrong 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @GS-mh6xv
      @GS-mh6xv 2 года назад +2

      You cannot be serious. You are part of the problem.

    • @kaijusushi8165
      @kaijusushi8165 2 года назад +8

      Then why did he apologize?

  • @jeffreybernson7978
    @jeffreybernson7978 2 года назад +1

    Cannanites were Black and couldn’t hold the priesthood.. read Genesis .. ITS THE LORDS PLAN NOT THE BRETHREN

  • @haydnmclennan4739
    @haydnmclennan4739 2 года назад +11

    Heard Bro Wilcox speak once, he is a great guy, particularly resonates with the youth.
    I think this just came out differently than he imagined it.

    • @susanbergman9765
      @susanbergman9765 2 года назад +4

      Yeh. It came out about 70 years too late. Young people are more informed and sophisticated today than the pre 60's era.

    • @haydnmclennan4739
      @haydnmclennan4739 2 года назад

      Susan Bergman I don’t know what you are talking about friend.

    • @susanbergman9765
      @susanbergman9765 2 года назад +2

      @@haydnmclennan4739 Well, I stand corrected. Not all Mormon youth are well informed now a days.

    • @haydnmclennan4739
      @haydnmclennan4739 2 года назад +1

      Susan Bergman latter day saints*

    • @mckayelder6060
      @mckayelder6060 Год назад

      @@susanbergman9765 lol

  • @marthaabrahamson6813
    @marthaabrahamson6813 2 года назад +1

    I support you and you didn't insult anyone or would ever do so

  • @boisedisabilitylaw
    @boisedisabilitylaw 2 года назад +12

    His whole life has been a track record of helping the youth and from 2 sentences everyone is able to conclude hes a horrible racist man? How many sentences should you be judged over?

    • @ky4864
      @ky4864 2 года назад +7

      He’s not a horrible racist man. In fact, I think he’s pretty nice. Still, he should be held accountable for his words and actions. Hopefully, this will help him examine some of his views and see where he could do better.

    • @jeffs4483
      @jeffs4483 2 года назад +12

      He's been giving this racist speech for years.

    • @dh4403
      @dh4403 2 года назад +6

      Umm if that's the demeanor of him helping the youth, I don't appreciate that kind of help. Help...what help? Lol

    • @GS-mh6xv
      @GS-mh6xv 2 года назад +2

      @@dh4403 no kidding! Racism, misogyny, scare tactics, homophobia. None of it is "helpful" to the youth or anyone else.

    • @FFM115
      @FFM115 2 года назад +3

      I don’t believe he is a bad person, he is in fact quite sincere about his beliefs, the problem is not him, he is just a product of what he grew up learning from the institution, he is repeating what he heard and learned his whole life. It’s the system .

  • @Benyan1763
    @Benyan1763 Год назад

    Well, at least he tried apologizing. That is pretty rare with LDS leaders.

  • @jjhbball
    @jjhbball 2 года назад +2

    Nothing wrong with what he said. The point he was communicating was that the priesthood has been restricted to different peoples at different times and that we should look at the big picture.

    • @gladysolsen5646
      @gladysolsen5646 2 года назад

      Exactly!

    • @kaijusushi8165
      @kaijusushi8165 2 года назад +3

      Then why did he apologize? And why did BYU disavow his statements?

  • @OOGBossHogg
    @OOGBossHogg Год назад

    As a black male is it wrong that I understand what he was trying to say?

  • @brah1442
    @brah1442 Год назад

    I hate to say it but so many Mormons see other races as lesser. Sure we could say that goes for any white population in a multitude of demographics but all I need to say is BYU

    • @blondedman3076
      @blondedman3076 Год назад

      so stereotypical and so offensive, i’ve never once seen myself above any poc.

  • @wendygibb4741
    @wendygibb4741 2 года назад +3

    I don't feel he said anything wrong. We all need to stop being so sensitive to things that we don't agree with.

    • @tawneenielsen4080
      @tawneenielsen4080 2 года назад +6

      Are you serious? Holy cow. His whole talk was done in a condescending. As members of the church we aren't supposed to teach others to be less sensitive. Our values are to teach "with boldness but not overbearance". He sounded like a desperate, immature, used car salesman. No wonder people look at us like idiots

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @@tawneenielsen4080 Shuddup bissch

  • @gloriamoreno1894
    @gloriamoreno1894 2 года назад +2

    🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️👅👅👅👅

  • @kregprice9555
    @kregprice9555 2 года назад +3

    He spoke vehemently against Bible Believing Christians, saying we "play church." He has no idea and zero empathy for what God's word Actually says!! He's leading thousands of youth away from Jesus who don't agree with the LDS church. THERE IS HOPE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH!!

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      The world is a mess, Id say you were wrong

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      @Nev Miscellaneous Sounds crazy but if you would like to present evidence to prove your case, go ahead.

  • @zacariasblanco8291
    @zacariasblanco8291 2 года назад +15

    Republicans be like “Trump-Wilcox 2024!”

    • @HarveyDroke
      @HarveyDroke 2 года назад

      That’ll pull the Utah, Arizona, Idaho, Nevada and Colorado votes

    • @zacariasblanco8291
      @zacariasblanco8291 2 года назад

      @@HarveyDroke Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina

    • @rolandsmith4394
      @rolandsmith4394 2 года назад +8

      Demonrats be like Biden-Satan 2024.

    • @HarveyDroke
      @HarveyDroke 2 года назад +2

      @@rolandsmith4394 yes because all democrats worship satan. While trump supporters are storming the capitol, the Biden supporters are drinking babies blood. Shine on you crazy QAnon theorist. Make America Great Again and the vaccine is part of the new world order, right?

    • @senecaaurelius1811
      @senecaaurelius1811 2 года назад +1

      @@HarveyDroke so Democrats don’t drink baby blood then?

  • @angelacavanaugh2761
    @angelacavanaugh2761 Год назад

    Disgusting...the church should question Wilcox "callings."

  • @etcomehome39
    @etcomehome39 2 года назад

    It’s just religion. No need to take it so seriously.

  • @rachelczumaya2806
    @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +15

    Oh geez… 🙄 So because people took his words out of context, he has to apologize and clarify what his meaning was? I am so tired of cancel culture. His answer was incorrect and poorly worded, but why get so riled up? Led to contention at a heartbeat instead of seeking understanding? Not everyone is as “woke” as you think you are and you just expect them to “get it”? Grow up.

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +4

      @@ahgue6915 it doesn’t need to be. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @rachelczumaya2806
      @rachelczumaya2806 2 года назад +3

      @@ahgue6915 So let’s teach people, not throw them away.

    • @flyfishingbrowngirl9185
      @flyfishingbrowngirl9185 2 года назад +5

      Brad Wilcox is a leader and he makes his living by teaching and talking. He is speaking to a diverse group of people and has a responsibility to educate himself on the POC experience. He’s not going to change. He’s to old but hopefully he will educate himself to at least understand how his words separate and divide.

    • @wesanderikaoneal9930
      @wesanderikaoneal9930 2 года назад +7

      When something is based on a lie, it will always be indefensible. So Mormons don’t have a defense other than “you don’t understand” or “it’s out of context”
      I’ve watched the whole talk. I was Mormon for 28 years. He’s not being taken out of context.

    • @isldgal
      @isldgal 2 года назад +2

      @@rachelczumaya2806 I hope we can begin thinking this way.

  • @hturt4
    @hturt4 2 года назад +2

    I would never subject my children to the toxic, manmade garbage Brad Wilcox taught those youth. The church should remove him from his general calling and from his position at BYU. To not remove him is to agree with what he said.

    • @JD-zu2vl
      @JD-zu2vl Год назад

      What if you are manmade garbage

  • @ivaxnog6157
    @ivaxnog6157 2 года назад +1

    "School of the prophets,the peace corps" article at palabrasd1mormon

  • @steventhomasson557
    @steventhomasson557 2 года назад +1

    As a former BYU student and a member of THE church I only have to repent of my own sins; not those that other people think I have.