The Mormon church in Canada: Where did more than $1 billion go? - The Fifth Estate
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2022
- Our investigation reveals more than $1 billion raised by the Mormon church in Canada has been funnelled to the U.S. rather than going to charitable works in this country. We hear from former members in Canada and elsewhere who say concerns about how money is spent have led them to leave the church.
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You know when money becomes a requirement to obtain salvation, you might be in a Cult.
"Salvation only costs 10% of your gross income. Now that's a crazy deal!"
You know you might be too attached to money if it stops you from being more Christlike.
Never heard that salvation is attached to money, I think the LDS Church teaches that Salvation is available because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ.
@@raptman5425 so the idea of atonement and how it fits into our lives and can improve our capacity to act forthrightly is really beneficial when the person has internalized that idea for him or her self. Whatever mistakes we have made are already atoned, so there is no need to hang onto them or feel debilitating shame.
As an atheist, I can see the value in that lesson, and it largely parallels effective psychotherapy. But it doesn't have to be historically real, I don't need to pretend there's an afterlife, and I don't need to pay a lifetime tax in order to learn this.
It seems like the Mormon church is massively overcharging for pretty common wisdom that has underpinned Western ideals for 2000 years.
@@EarlofSedgewick did you miss the part about paying tithing is voluntary.
Once a religious entity claims tax exemption, there sh be 100% transparency, to dismiss any doubts and suspicion of fraud 🤷🏻♀️
Jesus didn't even extoll the Temple. He said " I can destroy and raise it in 3 days". We re the temple Body of Christ.
But... you don t want govt checking. Maybe a citizen s panel w random accountants. Not government!!!!
@@jackiepowell7513 he didn't want money to be in the church, he tipped all of the tables over and got angry about it. I'm not sure of the book and verse.
Do you realize that all churches have tax exemption?
The reason is... because the government is to busy with their own fraud.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the largest single landowner in the United States, from huge ranching and orchard operations, to the SLC mall to luxury apartment buildings. When did God approve this?
Um, when He made it in the first place?
Tell us more about your theory of a god approving land holdings. Puh-leeze.
It’s not the largest. And the church built the mall to revitalize downtown and it worked. If we are to be a worldwide church then we need to be able to fund that.
Vatican says hold my beer
The current Mormon prophet talks directly to godď
What god would allow this fraud? There are none.
A lot like Scientology, it's all about the money. Both of these churches should lose their tax free status. The leaders of this churches should be prosecuted and sent to prison.
I’m not religious, but what is the difference between the Norman’s doing this and the Catholics?
@@adamcraft9118 Catholics like the boys, Mormons like the young girls.
@@tomtaylor3523 omgosh.....too funny!!!
@@adamcraft9118 -Study your history and you won't be so ignorant. Ever hear of all the "Hotel Dieu"s ? Or the Missions? Lot of bad, but even more good.
One of the big differences between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other religions is that it is a lay church. People volunteer thier time. Even the President of the church is not paid. He had a long career as a heart surgeon before joining the leadership. This allows for more money to be put into serving others. Things like the welfare system (ranches, orchards, processing plants), education (universities, online degrees, training & practicums) and of course humanitarian projects. The church gave over 1 billion to humanitarian aid in 2023 alone. The church covers overhead so 100% of donations go to the projects.
Remember the story in the Bible where the rich man built bigger barns to hold his wealth instead of sharing with needy? He died that night not able to use his money. This reminds me the church is building bigger barns.
remember the story of Joseph who was sold into Egypt and helped to prepare for 7 years of famine. the time is coming that the storage will be needed like never before. Also the church has been helping the bagger . the wealthy man you referred to is more like the government of today.
Can you remind me of the Bible scripture that references bigger barns. Thanks.
@@johnhenry9456 It is the parable of the rich fool. Luke 12: 16- 20
I'm sorry for this. Hopefully you can do some sort of retirement fund.
There's no corruption in the Mormon church that's why it's very rich
“Best way to make money is to start your own church “, L.Ron Hubbard
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
Yup nailed it
@@lizajane1878 umm, best way is start your own counterfeit printing press.
@@icanfartloud no, that would be illegal. Creating a fake religion is legal
@@icanfartloud I think he was speaking in a "lawfully" way.
Once a female colleague of mine told me that she has to work over time because she has to pay ? Much money to her church. And this person was not making enough for herself.
When some one gives to charity ,it must be his/ her wish ,not forced to do so.
That is in in simple word"cruelity.
How people can keep getting sucked in and giving money? Most churches have a big yacht. Most churches or priests or pastors. Have a big house on your money a place in the caribbean
You know what i really funny. In Judaism it works the same tithing is requirement.
I am from Central America, Guatemala, by the earthquake in 1976, the church built many houses all around the country. Plus food and another items. In Mexico for years almost every chapel in the 60s. and 70s Monday through Fridays was functioning as elementary schools!! I served as missionary in El Salvador for 2 years with other 26 friends how can't survive preaching for two years and the Church paid all the expenses. Many of my companions were able to graduate from BYU. Now I am in Florida surviving 9 hurricanes and see the massive help of the LDS Church to any individual without asking religious affiliation.
So True
It's a cult
@@eagledice2008 Then all religions are cults by your definition.
@@edpeaceofmindIf I have to pay the church or get my children food, I’ll be getting my children food.
Okay glad it worked 4 u. You are 1 in a million
As someone who was raised in the Mormon church and is (at this moment) sitting at a block away from downtown Salt Lake just blocks away from the LDS temple. I hope that something meaningful will come of this.
I also think the church of Scientology and their tax exempt status should also be investigated by the IRS,
The Church of Scientology was investigated by the IRS but the results were supressed by political interests. As usual.
I guess all in the name of Jesus
Wow!
I was a member at Mormon Church in Cape Girardeau , Missouri The Mormon Church did not wrong to me . I left because of personal short comings of my own inner self I live in Minnesota and California now days when I'm not in Florida.
all religions
All Churches are meant to be tax exempt. There is a reason for this. If you tax a religious organization that violates the separation between Church and state and Churches will have every right to be involved (in every way) in politics. The wall of separation is tax exemption.
All cults need to be held accountable
Does that include the Covid Cult?
Starting with the alphabet soup cult
How much do you know about the preposterous beginnings of the Mormon church? Religion is all nonsense but Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses are two of the silliest Xtian "sects".
Yes, it's the JWs turn next.
Omg! As an ex Mormon. I am so glad to see the church be held to account. Perhaps a further expose on all its cult practices is in order.
As an ex Mormon, you don't know what you are talking about.
@@raptman5425triggered much?
@@raptman5425😂guess you don't believe all the scandals happening in Utah right now😂
You know the Church is truth. Don't deceive yourself. Comme home.
@@giselemathews1511 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You know when Money becomes the vital requirement for eternal salvation, you might be in a Cult.
It is a cult. Joesph Smith was a crook and had to flee towns until he landed far enough west. Anyone that claims Jesus visited him in about 1830 in Missouri is a charlatan.
No more loopholes, tax all churches and lower taxes for the people.
Excellent report!
Agreed!
Add all corporations, too. Their taxes need to be increased. Same with the rest of the wealth hoarders.
Pretty racist to only tax churches but that’s totally the liberal way. There are seriously religious group funding terrorism but hey, diversity is our strength.
Not going to happen, separation of church and state. No one makes you give money to a church, your choice! The Unitarian Church accepts everyone, try them. No one is forced, church or no church..American freedom!!!🙄🤷♀️🌴
@@bjwilliams Excuse me...but NOT taxing an organization such as a religious one is not separation of Church and State. It is, by it's declaration of exemption expressing favouritism towards religions. Any organization sustained by profit should be responsible for supporting the very people it serves. Paying back into the system as regulated by taxation is a responsibility all businesses share and religion hides behind it's cloak of spiritualism and tries to obfuscate it's profits.
RC, LDS and nearly all faith-based religions build huge temples/churches/synagogues, shopping concourses, own planes and much real-estate.
All of which from the proceeds of tithing.
Apparently Mathew 21:12 applies only if it's not the church which profits from it. Otherwise it's ok...I see...do the words double-standards seem appropriate here. I think it does by geezus!
Just walks the streets of Hamilton, Vancouver at 8 pm, you will know how much money is required for real charity. Homelessness, loneliness, drug addiction etc
And the fact that horrible so called church has all that money, yet not willing to help needy Canadians, is sick.😡
@@davisholman8149 happens all over the world sadly 🥲
@@joannbowden6220 This is true happening every where all around the world.
I was denied using a bathroom at a gas station after travelling home from seeing my ill son by your people here in Canada!
@@MsVictoria4ever I’m sorry that this happened to you. It is against the law for an establishment which sells food or beverages to refuse use of a washroom. You should report this to the provincial ministry of transportation.
The LDS church is in fact a business. Period. Anyone that argues that is a church member. Hypocritical? Yes.
1. Owns shares in Coke yet frowns on drinking caffeine.
2. Owns shares in Budweiser yet forbids drinking alcohol.
3. Smoking, drinking, caffeine fueled drinks and chewing tobacco are all frowned upon YET selling it in mormon owned stores is ok, cause it's money.
Idiocy
Religion is hypocrisy
Well DUDE the money is prolly in a mutual fund that the church cant separate out .
U can drink soda special
Remove tax exempt status from ALL churches/cults. Edit: Leaving this cult was the smartest/best thing I've ever done for myself. No regrets here!
We need a true separation between church and state. Tax-exempt status should not be given to any church (cult) that advocates and teaches doctrines that have no basis in fact or reality. We should defund all of these institutions by making them pay the same taxes as any other corporation. This is important at this point in time because we are facing a mass extinction event that is, in large part, the result of doctrines that define human beings as a privileged species that is above all other species and which is destined to rule, and dominate all other life forms. This view forms the basis of our culture and it is the product of predatory religious practices that are destroying the ecology upon which all of us depend.
No, that would not be just nor right!
Yes, remove the tax exemption from the church as in this video!
You ought not paint all church denominations with the same brush!
Remember, the accountant said he experienced the transparency in the other churches’ denominations accounting!? But not in the Mormon Church!
My experience has been the complete budget transparency and much of the money went to the humanitarian causes!
Many small churches barely have enough money to pay their basic bills!
I would love to see the leaders of this church sit face to face with Jesus and try to defend their actions.
Oh I can just see how hard JC would be flipping those tables...
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
That will happen but it is not a spectators sport.
Too bad Jesus didn't exist that's how he got you all
That day will come for them
A pastor of a church just bought a million dollar house and is my new neighbor. The other day I found out he has other 4 houses that are huge and expensive that he rents out. It surely pays to sell salvation!!
the LDS church doesn't have any pastors
The pastor is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is the sheeples that support him.
@@jodsterf comprehension issues dude?, he was saying a Pastor...not a Bishop, is his neighbor, and he is quite wealthy...
Meanwhile Obama
Mansion In Washington DC
Mansion on Martha’s Vineyard
Mansion in Honolulu
The WORD states that many are in it for their own benefit.
BYU is greatly subsidized but that reduces the amount of tuition students pay. I wouldn’t have been able to go to a good university without that. My student loan bill was very small.
Now THIS is well done!!!! Good for those who stood up and did something!!!
There is NO story here. BYU subsidizes not only members' education but non-members as well. BYU tuition has been rated as having the greatest value for money compared to any US University(See BYU Pathway and make comparisons). Fast offerings(not tithing) is used for humanitarian project(note humanitarian). I also don't get how a social moral issue(sexuality) is intermixed with financial issues as proving fraud. How does that prove fraud! There is unfortunately no story nor sincerity in your documentary.
@@anathiqinisile6379😂😂😂
@@anathiqinisile6379 You are conveniently ignoring the truth. Outside the U.S. the Mormon Church is haemorrhaging members. There is no longer a church where I live. I'm not surprised by the loss of members. The Church may have influence in the U.S., but it doesn't have any outside. It really is just a massive corporation that dabbles in religion.
@@anathiqinisile6379so, how much is tuition? Very curious.
@@christinabeck9316Someone answer this youg lady! I wet to BYU in the 70s, a semester was about $650 then.
Deliver food to neighbors in need, where you can actually see where the money is going
I left the Mormon Church after being an active member for half a century. The money part of it makes me gag. Little grandmas paying tithes yet having to eat ramen for weeks in order to do so. It appalling. I left after studying the real church history, and found out I was lied to my whole life. My life would have been totally different if I had not been brain washed.
@@davisholman8149 how were you lied to?
@@MariamMariam-ue7vz find out for yourself, the CES letter is a good place to start.
@@srso4660 "Letter For My Wife" is another.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
My husband is from El Salvador, in Central America. We have known for years that the Mormon church is owner of one of the most valuable pieces of property there, a sprawling ranch on the shore of Lake Ilopango that is surrounded by high walls and is very secretive. You don't see the Church there open the gate to host activities for children or help the poor. The land just is in a state of holding. It would be worth many millions of dollars, that ranch, in my estimation.
BonnieMcDermid. The church is really the first to respond to disasters in multiple areas of the world. The church is one of the few religions who believe in education for less developed countries and finance it for many. If you are blessed help others. The church emphasis is to love others and to help them.
It is not wrong to invest in land and hold onto it. I wish I had more of it.
@@dpratt7777 It is if the people who donated that money was going to charity.
CIA visit often?
Yes that is also all true, and I'm also a member. I love my church!
The Mormon Church was the first orginazation to arrive in New Orleans with first aid and emergency items such as food, clothes etc. right after hurrican Katrina .
Someone had to. Dubya's government didn't bother for days (might've had something to do with the race of the majority of the people affected--ya think?). Anyway, great way to get converts and all those extra tithes to buy a few emergency supplies and a whole lot of real estate.
@@sarahsnowe It's not that hard to make the right decisions in life . Just don't let the blind , brainwashed and subverted get in your way while you do it . This is America , most of em don't even know the meaning of the word subversion or what it means for an entire nation to be subverted . Even after the whole place was demoralized decades ago . How do you think all those Grandmothers wound up with dope habits , green hair , bankrupt and in prison ?
60,000 acres in Canada? Seriously, I think it would be more. Need to look at the ranches in the US too, and how their hired help are treated financially.
This has eery similarities to Scientology schemes.
schemes is a polite term
Yes - all cults have similar characteristics. Scientology is quite a bit more ‘not typical’ - but from what I understand, Mormonism is bad enough.
BINGO
@@dhix2388 True. I should have said "crimes."
Agreed.
Its the oldest trick in the human book, selling nothing for profit. Remarkable.
It really is
Selling salvation for profit in the same way that the Catholic Church did. Martin Luther exposed that.
Mormoncorp have sure perfected this scam….💰👍🏽💰.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
And you'll be rewarded after you die! "There'll be pie in the sky in the sweet bye and bye!"🤣
That's where I know them from, knocking on my door. In the middle of a blizzard, outside Philadelphia, in 3' of snow, 2 young guys in suits are knocking on doors. I only let them in because I felt sorry for them out in this blizzard. An hour later, I was feeling sorry for me. Big mistake!
You can get away with any crime you want if you become a pastor and open a church. Money flows freely.
Thithing is optional always! If your church says otherwise, run 🏃♂️
Truth.
It's an Old Testament law that doesn't apply to Christians.
@@kevinmorgan8534 I don't fully understand traditional Christianity. Can you explain, please?
We are not under the law but under Christ . In Christ Jesus living in grace in the new testament there is no tithe. Paul Peter never took tithes. The only giving spoken of if from a willing cheerful heart offering from your heart.
@@kudamapfumo9316 excellent explanation .
If you want to get rich quick don't start a business. Start a church...
Facts🤣🤣🤣🤣
True
Yup! Seriously considering it 🤔
Very true
"In every man sleeps a prophet, and when it wakes there is a little more evil in the world." - Emile M. Cioran
The Church of Joseph Smith of Latter Day Swindlers.
Good one, I like that. May I borrow it?
The Corporation of Rusty Nelson of the Latter-Day Frauds
ini bukan ajaran yang baik
It's a cult not a religion
Jealousy??
I would have liked to seen some unbiased tax attorneys explaining the rationale behind the church's activities based on Canada's current tax laws. It may be that the church is following Canada's laws, regardless of whether the interviewees approve or not. This news report makes plenty of allegations of corruption, but where are the indictments from the Canadian or US governments? It's been two years since the "whistleblower guy" did his expose in the US, but I have read about no Federal lawsuits, no indictments, no IRS anything. Or what about the Canada Revenue Agency?
Also, I read that "the Mormon Church has been accused of engaging in significant tax evasion in Australia", but accused by WHOM? As far as I can tell, the accusations come from journalists, but NOT the Australian government.
Thank you for pointing that out.
i totally agree with you. and im disappointed with the investigative journalism that only told one biased side of a story without the proof or and evidence to support the inuendos
Great insight
Matthew 6:19-20
Lay Up Treasures in Heaven
19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal."
It doesn't matter what the government says, right! But scripture is clear! Please consider this truth! 💜🙏💜
@@jodsterf Well, in fairness this did include clips of church leader David Bednar speaking about church finances, while playing ominous music in the background.
I'm 73 yrs old, north of the 49th parallel. After more than 58 yrs of lds church membership, leadership and general service. After a temple marriage at 18 yrs I had a family of 6 children and 25 special needs foster children (over 35 yrs). I was the main breadwinner, and after asking leadership (after the church published PROCLAMATION TO THE FAMILY) if I could stop working outside the home (separate from foster care), I was told NO, stating my husband was disabled (while he was collecting a WCB pension).
I have paid 10s of thousands in tithing.
I am inactive in the church currently. But as a former development officer (fundraiser, journalist, nonprofit manager) I came to know the lds church was demonstrating financial fraud, I stopped paying tithing a number of yrs ago. I now pay out my tithing now to soup kitchens, homeless programs, and school breakfast programs.
Thank you so much for offering this true programming content.
My associate lds affiliates will say this program is an attempt to destroy the LDS goid name.
WHY IS BEDNAR STANDING SIDEWAYS TO YOUR CAMERA, WITH HIS EYE LIDS SHUT FOR GOOD PORTIONS OF THE TIME????
Do you believe that the misuse of tithing funds is a church issue or a corruption and leadership issue?
I can't stand Bednar and I wondered the same thing. I think he was talking to someone to his side so he was turned to face them. I think it was the lady who was asking him all the pres-scripted questions.
@@lloydmajeau3140 I think it is a corruption and leadership issue but not on the ward or stake level. All money is sent to SLC and redistributed back to the wards to use. The bare minimums are given to run each auxiliary program within the church. In many congregations, one person's tithing donations for the entire year is more than what is returned to that ward to be used for a year's worth of budget. Where does the rest of the ward member's tithing money go? Multiply that by 1000's of wards and you can see there is a problem at the top level not at the local level.
Wouldn’t you taking care of children in need be something the church should fund through tithing rather than make you pay on top of it..? Isn’t that the whole purpose of tithing in the first place..?
@@annengberg1748 Or using tithing from the ward to pay for meals that are brought in to sick and elderly... but that is just an extra we are asked to do and if you question it you are reminded you made covenants in the temple that you would do it.
Thank you for airing this program.
bunch of crooks! MONEY IS THEIR GOD. JAIL ALL GUILTY PARTIES.
Ex-Mormon here. There’s definitely lots to be concerned with including their financial practices. I don’t know that the BYU thing is a hidden conspiracy though. The church has been pretty open about that as long as I’ve been alive
If you notice, at 7:50 he says one hundred ten million. It's almost one hundred ten thousand. It says on thousands. So, I'm not sure how accurate this is
Our society is different. Even without religion or politics mixed into it, we do not hug and kiss for public display. It is nothing even related to homophobia. We respect other people’s private space and public sensibilities and it may also be perhaps, a mix of cultural beliefs and practices. Overwhelming affections that may have sexual intimacy variety are best done in private, and the best to display it is only with your partner in a room where nobody needs to witness it. Patting the shoulders briefly if he or she is a family or friend, or shaking hands to congratulate, smile, even bow down or acknowledging with nodding of head, waving, will just do fine in public.
@@sheilatuano9633 how deeply sad. You describe a society without normal human warmth and open interactions.
The picture you paint is of a deeply and unnaturally repressed society - with behaviour that must have required decades at least to condition.
What has been done over many generations scares me.
@@jeffcampbell2710 Accounting reports regularly take off zeroes, presumably to make the numbers more readable. There would be a note on the page, indicating that the figures are shown in thousands (000s), and it should be read as if there are 3 more zeroes on it. This is pretty common and nothing nefarious.
It's really the church for people with disability, the def, sign language and other severe autism the good kind
Very important piece of journalism. We demand financial transparency for any publicly-trade company. I expect the same for any organization exempt from taxes.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
LDS Church voluntarily pays more tax than any other Church in North America. Take time to learn before pushing keys.
Absolutely. If you’re tax exempt, your entire financial history should be accessible to the public.
@@raptman5425 According to whom?
@@raptman5425 Source that
First class video.. very well done!
From 1986 to 2019, I served in five bishoprics and two stake presidencies in Saskatchewan. Like any congregation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one of our key responsibilities was to care for those in need. We were not perfect, but I was impressed with the leaders' and members' effectiveness. We used a structured and principled approach to: 1) serve and minister to individuals, families, and communities (including those who are not of our faith), 2) share our personal and Church resources with those in need, and 3) help others become self-reliant through education, employment, and managing their personal finances. We did our best to fulfill this complex, sensitive, and nuanced work and the Lord blessed us to help many people.
Doug Robertson . . . I'm glad you posted your comment. I believe you and many of your fellow LDS church members are sincere and doing good for others.
Yeah. But your top brass run it like a business.
@@danawinsor1380 I agree. Only takes a couple of bad seeds at the top to ruin the reputation of an organization or group. Diligence to protect the structure and reputation can only be protected if questions can be answered.
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@@steve75112why be rude? He’s sharing his experience, which sounds wonderful. Isn’t that what we want for our fellow humans?
Thanks, Fifth Estate, for reporting on this. You are providing investigation on this that we can’t get in the U.S. As a former church member, I am grateful to you for telling members how their money is used.
It's weird. I'm a Baptist and I learned when I was in my 20s that the Mormon church was the richest church in the world at the time. Why is this news? (I'm 60 now).
@@beckypetersen2680 , the channeL is biased., in the I. N. C. kidnapping video the comment is off but here is not
💪🇨🇦💪🇨🇦💪🇨🇦 thank you fifth estate...Now go get #jaundice pollivre and that other grifting cockroach deepak ff anand ...
By the ways what is mpp @sylviajones hiding??? 🤔
Im in the US. Do your research! On the victims...the actual origin of your religion....im so sorry you were involved in any of this. Prayers for you... And not Mormon ones.... As you see...their stock holdings are in US mostly.... Because US dollar is worth most....
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I left this church a long time ago. My fam is deep into Mormon religion 6 generations. My siblings and I are the first to leave and not be controlled.
I am spiritual 💫
It’s so good that you got out of this cult. Jesus loves you and desires that no one spend eternity without Him. “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me. “ John 14:6
I left over 30 years ago and I have never felt better , good for you breaking toxic family choices . I am also a spiritual being 😊
How wonderful to hear…more power to you…👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I think you were looking for an out.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
as a recovering catholic, welcome to living! life still sorta sucks, but at least it's on your terms, every bit of it! that's living your best life, mistakes and all!
Excelent investigatigate report. I hope this investigation brings positive results.
There are many places where these millions can and should be espended medical resources to fight diseases, educationfor those who can afford to get superior education, to build affordable housigs , etc. Thanks
The LDS church does provide medical assistance and doctors to areas in need, My Father volunteered to be a dentist in Guatamala in the 1970s. So yes, its done. Learn and study before you respond to the broadcast full of holes.
Watching this about the Mormon church somehow reminds me of the Freemason's & the Roman Catholic church.
It's really easy to be generous when you are allocating others funds.
Remember it's always the other guy that's greedy. Never yourself.
Thanks Fifth Estate for educating us about the evil doing in this Mormon church.
Wait. A. Minute. The church built a mall? A MALL!?! Are you kidding me!?! Be in the world, not of it...not be in the world and worship the god of it. This is unacceptable. God bless the brave men who are doing what's right over what's easiest or most profitable.
It gets way worse when you look at what Kirton McConkie is doing and how much tithing goes there.
The mall is surprising the least horrible thing about this.
This story only just barely touches the surface of the real story of the church in the US. I see it every day in my profession.
@@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 It use to be the Kirton McConkie and Poelman law firm. Have to search why the name changed.
It’s just what Jesus would want. “Go sell all you have, build a luxury shopping mall, and come follow me.”
@@ChaChaDancin I'm pretty sure I remember that verse too! 😆
In the Last days "There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be known."
yep, that scripture isn't talking about the church as the funds are being used very judiciously. it is talking about the evils of the day and the Canadian government is part of the evil I speak of.
I think the term 'Moron-ism' is more fitting.
How people get sucked in the church needs money your money lots of money
Considering that Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the church of Scientology, evangelism, and the largest military industrial complex in the world all come from the United States I kinda doubt that the Mormon church is the single wealthiest land owner.
That's probably in regards to a tax free cult being the single largest wealthiest land owner...
The corruptions are So.Much.More! then just money.
It's never been a secret that tithing money is used to supplement university education at BYU. I, as a Canadian, obtained my bachelor's from one of the smaller campuses and was often reminded that my low tuition was only due to the sacrifice and tithes of others. Tithing supplements the education of those from around the world who pay as little as $100 US per year to obtain a university degree (including housing, food, courses, and insurance).
A large portion of the land owned is orchards, ranches, and farms in the US that provide food for the churches' welfare system. These items are shared with those both in Canada and around the world. I'm disappointed no mention of the bishops' storehouses in Canada not mentioned. Other land holdings included those for chapels, temples, university campuses, historical sites, family camping sites etc.
Precisely. This video is clearly biased and misleading.
Not Mormon, but one of my close friends growing up was, and it's exactly that; she had to pay the fraction of the cost of a typical out of state college which made it affordable to her. I'm not a supporter of the church, however, I feel the documentary missed an opportunity to explain that.
Hun… the math still ain’t mathing. It’s tax evasion and fraud.
Once it’s filtered into BYU it can go anywhere without really having to report it further. Money laundering takes all shapes.
Not Mormon, but an Australian tax payer. I hope the Australian government strips this whack job outfit of its tax deductible status sooner rather than later. Believe whatever bullshit you want, but I don’t want to help pay for it.
Lots of people see wealth as a sign of wisdom and godly favor
I desperately waited for this story.. u really have the guts to share these scams..
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
You desperately waited for this story....to prove the church wrong?
What is the reason that you desperately waited?
@@kevin6550694 because, couple of days ago I read the article in CBC News and I was curious to know about it.
THAT'S WHY
@@kamal8040 why are you so desperate?
Kamalpreet, I agree he has guts and faith, I pray the Lord Jesus watch over all of them and their families.
Transfer of wealth usually occur during recession, so the more stocks drop, the more I buy, in the meanwhile I'm just focused on making better investments and earning more as recession fear increases, apparently there are strategies to 3x gains in this present market because I read of someone that pulled a profit of $350k within 6months, what are the best stocks to buy now or put on a watchlist?
Find stocks with market-beating yields and shares that at least keep pace with the market for a long term. For a successful long-term strategy I recommend you seek the guidance a broker or financial advisor.
@@Alejandracamacho357 Very true..I've been in constant touch with a Financial-Adviser for the past 23 months. You know, these days it's really easy to buy into trending stocks, but the task is determining when to sell or keep. That's where my manager comes in, to help me with entry and exit points in the industries I'm engaged in. Can’t say I regret it, I’m 63% up in profits just in Q3 of 2023.
@@Robertgriffinne
@@marianparker7502 My adviser is "Corinne Cecilia Heaney" You can easily look her up. She has years of financial market experience and she is also FINRA & SEC verifiable.
@@Robertgriffinne I just looked up 'Corinne online and researched her accreditation. She seem very proficient, I wrote her detailing my Fin-market goals and scheduled a call
Why was the comments from your last video turned off
Where did you get the money to buy a 25 million dollar airplane? God gave me that, where did you get the big mansion in the Caribbean?... God gave me that, too.......people open your eyes
Where did $1 Billion go? How about the same place that the original records of births , deaths, and marriages went that never were returned or copied..............
When I was a kid I often went hungry because my mom paid tithing. The church would "help" us by giving us boxes of canned beans and corn that expired five years earlier.
Disgusting
That feels so wrong 😢
😡😡😡
That’s terrible. Feel so bad for you
Omg, horrible
This is a fantastic and well researched piece. Bravo and good, useful work!!!
Excellent journalistic work. Just watched the Australian 60-Minutes report also released 6 months ago and the US 60-Minutes version , aired last Sunday which has not mentioned any of the Canadians and Australians work.
This thing is very usual here in Brazil, and the population has no way to stop it. Even the government donate to the church’s for publicity of the candidate in question, so so sad…
LOL, you joke.
Thank you The Fifth Estate for doing meticulous journalism. I really appreciate it. All your journalists are about TRUTH….which is RARE these days. Thank you for always giving us the TRUTH.
This show is not reputable and does not desire to put goodness before the audience. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a wonderful organization of humanitarian support and if any organization who is reputable with their finances it is them. Unlike the governments of many nations who are intent on impoverishing its citizens as we have witnessed in these past two years particularly.
All CBC journalists are incapable of telling truth
This is very brave. The cult has some big reach...
If you only want half truths and lies.
Excellent reporting and journalism. Bravo.
WOW, Very powerful! You have done a great job disclosing this material! Thankyou
Imagine how many millions of people could be helped if the church were really a church.
I am not a mormon but I read the book of the Mormon and I know it is a testimony of God, just like many other holy writings.
@@elitestockpicks8212
Are you a Qanon member ?
The whole world would be better of if the Reorganized Church ended up being the most popular one.
@@azarahwagner2749 No, she is a Mormon - just lying like the leaders do.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
17 million members? Not even close. Actual active membership is no more than 4 million.
Yep, the church lies about membership numbers as well 😂. At this point, what is it actually honest about?
@@IamCree so you literally want to the Mormon church a liar..
This is a freaking great documentary it is thorough concise and easy to follow! Good stuff !
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but we have known this for many many years its not no secret, just headhunters trying to make a name anyway it was all resolved and explained by the church and the governments.
@@BGPOND30
Oh you mean no independent thinking required "When church leaders have spoken the thinking had already been done for you" okay got it! 😉
@@MeToo-py1tq yep exactly! Follow the leader you don't have to think for yourself
It's an anti-religion hit piece. It's highly one sided and not balanced and objective.
Im glad someone is concerned that the government isn't getting its fair share of tax monies. Governments, after all, are benevolent, honest institutions with good intentions. Thank you 5th estate for exposing a church that gives millions in charitable donations. Shame on them!!
This idea that the church is taking away from governments is hilarious. Also the church needs to start paying taxes this is ridiculous. I’d love for my money back but I also acknowledge that I volunteered my money, even though I was lied to about the church’s truth claims. That money is long gone.
Another great one Fifth! I hope we see a follow up of this one! Greed permeates these big corporations. churches is one of the biggest of this greed.
The worst collection of lies and yellow journalism imaginable. All nothing more than a littany of lies from CBC
Don't forget politics like BLM and LGBTQ plus our government.
@@crystalyn2855 can you elaborate? I'm not certain what angle you are coming from. thank you.
@@Janewomanpower don’t hold your breath
Sounds like you have been hurt. Sorry
Point#8 30:35 There is no church in the world that forces its members to give tithing or else. You give money became you want to, you go to church because you want to, you help people in the street became you want to. To this man and anyone who donates money and want a tax write off on your taxes, then you are not really doing the donation for the right reason. The widow's mite in the Bible. I don't think that she said, hey! want a tax write off document for my donation. Or when Judas betrayed Jesus, she said what a false of a church I want my money back. If anyone is going to do an act of charity towards another, do it became it's in your heart without thinking first on writing it off on your taxes. This man is bitter.
I watched this when it was first released… any updates planned?
You should make a video on the Vatican, I would love to see it!
Mmmhh,, catholic church is not considered wealthy..
That would be a multi-season series
It would have to be done in episodes & would have sequels after sequels which is watch but I'm not build ing my hopes up cos the pope isn't gonna show his ins and outs?😎 I remember the last Vatican banker to be found hung on Blackfriars bridge in London?
Rob
Yorkshire,uk.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The members of the Mormon church need to hear this. Truth and transparency. Well done Fifth Estate.
Sadly their indoctrination trains them to ignore all criticisms as "anti-mormon lies", and most wont even look at this stuff.
I have, and it's a laugh... this will have no effect to the church or its members who join not because of tithing but because we know it is all true!
@@makamurphy History is full of people who "know" the truth of something. This is why people call it a cult... what's so clear to people outside looking in, feels like persecution and lies to those inside looking out. It feels pretty comfy living in the bunker of blind belief.
@@makamurphy Do you believe the earth is flat as well?
Yeah I've just converted - thanks to this. No more tithe money from me! Had enough of this.
LDS is such a con job.
Such an evil organization.
I LOVE reports such as this ! Mind blowing 😮
Why?
@@tawnyavandamme5471 Rapt Man is a bot!!! Check the comments!
@@callumgowar thanks
Australia version of 60 minutes is doing a similar expose too recently
I don't think it has aired yet. This expose showed a clip from it tho.
We need more countries to do these exposes! The LDS church is a corporation that dabbles in religion.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, I can say that I give my money to this church with no doubt that it will be put to good use. Now, how many of you can say that about the governments you live under. The ex Mormons in the room have an ax to grind and it has little to do with money, and more to do with their pride. Jesus Christ is at the head of this church working through imperfect people, but non the less he is prevailing.
You’re too cute! Please, whatever you do, do not get a better education! You’re doing great in your false equivalence there.
Props to those that researched and acknowledged that the Canadian healthcare system was affected by this. What about churches on Maui?
Would love to see The Fifth Estate do a deep dive into the US government and where the taxpayer money goes. Wouldn’t be just an hour video.
I would love that on the Canadian government but since Trudeau and CBC are connected at the hip we would not get the truth anyway.
Well said.
Especially how much the 45th President creamed off for himself.
@@PrincessGold1 45th gave his salary to charities. How about how much Sleepy Joe and his son was paid by other countries. Trump broke you ?
How about doing it for the Canadian government, too. Do it for every government. And do it in depth.
Incredible work as always. Journalism at it's finest.
All Hail the CBC.
Yeah just like CNN News!
You joke, right?
It's all about the money 💰 🤑 💸
A wealthy man dies a disgraced man
Jesus himself warned us about false religions and false prophets such as the LDS.
And that's just the numbers we know about.
I grew up in the Mormon Church. My Mom was a widow with children. The church never pressured my Mom to give a tithing. I don’t remember when was the last time I gave a tithing to the church. If I’m not making enough money to feed myself and my family…that means I don’t have the money to give a tithing. Guess what? I’m not giving a tithing. No LDS Branch President, Bishop , Counselor, Elder, or the president of the church is going to make me give a tithing.
I volunteer with our local food bank. The LDS church donates a tremendous amount of quality food to our location.
The church has a paid contract with Feeding America. It isn’t donated. The food is purchased from the church while it is produced with free labor of the members.
I am a partially disabled 70+ year old senior in the USA. I recently joined the LDS church. But to my astonishment, when I started asking questions from my better than usual Bible background and quoting scripture in support, I have been badmouthed and gossiped about from multiple male and female leaders in my “ward”. I’ve not been to church for over a year, and have texted the missionaries that “I feel so unwelcome due to repeated negative criticisms and false allegations against me, that I don’t want to step foot inside the church!” I’ve heard not another word from any of them.
I am heartbroken and stunned at what appears to be a pattern of prohibitions against women speaking up or questioning ANYTHING, especially those who are widowed or unmarried!
And prior to excommunication, there seems to be an accepted practice of a communication blackout and cruel shunning!
When I consider the stories about Jesus’ behavior and patience and words found in the Bible, I just feel like crying for “time and eternity” at the rampant mistreatment of those “others”, at the hands of these who claim to be the “restored” disciples of Jesus Christ!
Not sure what this has to do with the video.
That's very sad and disheartening 🙏🏻
Be grateful you can think for yourself (even if you are a woman 😉).
Barbara, please read the book " The God Makers " written by 2 ex Mormons. One was in the church for 20yrs and the other man was in the church for 30 yrs. If you read this book you will be glad to be away from them !!! Just concentrate on the new king James bible. The Mormon religion totally contradicts the Bible. Many Many people have left and are leaving this church. This book will answer all your questions!!!!
Barbara Jones... in reply, why don't you just leave. This is evil.
With due respect.
We need that tax money back. This is crazy.
100% agree
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful." - Seneca (5 BCE - 65 CE)
What a bummer. Everyone should read "Under the Banner of Heaven."
With C$1 billion Mormon Church could have built a Brigham Young University campus in Canada. Why send Canadian donations/tithe to Utah, USA ?
Headquartered in USA.
Exactly ...
Those donations for the poor are given IN ADDITION to the tithes. My family's donations were 17% of GROSS.
That's not even getting into the fact that tithe was collected by coercion, literally threatening to lock you out of temple access (and thus ordinances vital for one's salvation) if one did not do everything in their power to pay at _least_ 10% of gross income.
Can we say money laundering.
The crowning and saving ordinances are offered in our temples. Ever checked to find out the price of a Latter Day Saint Temple ? The need for these buildings of the Lord is increasing as we offer these ordinances to the world. With abt 35000 buildings in the world the money spent is properly accounted for. Millions of dollars arre also donated where needed.
Its God that asks you to tithe, if the church miss uses it then its on them. I'm not of this church but know God asks us to tithe to help others. Mate look at it as you are doing as God asks, and be reasured you have done the right thing
Scientology’s big brother !!
Take away tax exemptions for churches and private colleges/universities!
Props to those that search the truth and are able to get out. Not just in Mormonism, but in any religion/leader that deceives it’s people.
I don't see you moving out of the states.....isn't the whole government decieving you???
5th
Now do Pfizer.
And Fauci.
And Trudeau...
When Initiated were gun use to force you ???
@@rodchung173 dont talk about blackface like that