The Mormon church in Canada: Where did more than $1 billion go? - The Fifth Estate
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- Our investigation reveals more than $1 billion raised by the Mormon church in Canada has been funnelled to the U.S. rather than going to charitable works in this country. We hear from former members in Canada and elsewhere who say concerns about how money is spent have led them to leave the church.
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As someone who was raised in the Mormon church and is (at this moment) sitting at a block away from downtown Salt Lake just blocks away from the LDS temple. I hope that something meaningful will come of this.
I also think the church of Scientology and their tax exempt status should also be investigated by the IRS,
The Church of Scientology was investigated by the IRS but the results were supressed by political interests. As usual.
I guess all in the name of Jesus
Wow!
I was a member at Mormon Church in Cape Girardeau , Missouri The Mormon Church did not wrong to me . I left because of personal short comings of my own inner self I live in Minnesota and California now days when I'm not in Florida.
all religions
All Churches are meant to be tax exempt. There is a reason for this. If you tax a religious organization that violates the separation between Church and state and Churches will have every right to be involved (in every way) in politics. The wall of separation is tax exemption.
“Best way to make money is to start your own church “, L.Ron Hubbard
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
Yup nailed it
@@lizajane1878 umm, best way is start your own counterfeit printing press.
@@icanfartloud no, that would be illegal. Creating a fake religion is legal
@@icanfartloud I think he was speaking in a "lawfully" way.
You know when money becomes a requirement to obtain salvation, you might be in a Cult.
"Salvation only costs 10% of your gross income. Now that's a crazy deal!"
You know you might be too attached to money if it stops you from being more Christlike.
Never heard that salvation is attached to money, I think the LDS Church teaches that Salvation is available because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ.
@@raptman5425 so the idea of atonement and how it fits into our lives and can improve our capacity to act forthrightly is really beneficial when the person has internalized that idea for him or her self. Whatever mistakes we have made are already atoned, so there is no need to hang onto them or feel debilitating shame.
As an atheist, I can see the value in that lesson, and it largely parallels effective psychotherapy. But it doesn't have to be historically real, I don't need to pretend there's an afterlife, and I don't need to pay a lifetime tax in order to learn this.
It seems like the Mormon church is massively overcharging for pretty common wisdom that has underpinned Western ideals for 2000 years.
@@EarlofSedgewick did you miss the part about paying tithing is voluntary.
Thank you for this forthright and honest program. I'm a 73 yr old retired Mormon journalist and development officer. I joined the church at 13 YRS of age, and have fulfilled EVERY LDS BENCHMARK OF PARTICIPATION AND SERVICE, including as a tithe payer.
I have become inactive from the church in the past 4 yrs.
I witnessed on tithing slips the church breaking Canadian DONOR laws... and acted limitedly to withdraw from tithe paying. I make donations now to worthy purposes in my community.
A rich man once approached Christ seeking to become a close follower.
Christ said, "sell all thou hast and give to the poor, and come follow me..." the rich man left sadly.
I've
Once a religious entity claims tax exemption, there sh be 100% transparency, to dismiss any doubts and suspicion of fraud 🤷🏻♀️
Jesus didn't even extoll the Temple. He said " I can destroy and raise it in 3 days". We re the temple Body of Christ.
But... you don t want govt checking. Maybe a citizen s panel w random accountants. Not government!!!!
@@jackiepowell7513 he didn't want money to be in the church, he tipped all of the tables over and got angry about it. I'm not sure of the book and verse.
Do you realize that all churches have tax exemption?
The reason is... because the government is to busy with their own fraud.
Remember the story in the Bible where the rich man built bigger barns to hold his wealth instead of sharing with needy? He died that night not able to use his money. This reminds me the church is building bigger barns.
remember the story of Joseph who was sold into Egypt and helped to prepare for 7 years of famine. the time is coming that the storage will be needed like never before. Also the church has been helping the bagger . the wealthy man you referred to is more like the government of today.
Can you remind me of the Bible scripture that references bigger barns. Thanks.
@@johnhenry9456 It is the parable of the rich fool. Luke 12: 16- 20
I'm sorry for this. Hopefully you can do some sort of retirement fund.
There's no corruption in the Mormon church that's why it's very rich
Deliver food to neighbors in need, where you can actually see where the money is going
I left the Mormon Church after being an active member for half a century. The money part of it makes me gag. Little grandmas paying tithes yet having to eat ramen for weeks in order to do so. It appalling. I left after studying the real church history, and found out I was lied to my whole life. My life would have been totally different if I had not been brain washed.
@@davisholman8149 how were you lied to?
@@MariamMariam-ue7vz find out for yourself, the CES letter is a good place to start.
@@srso4660 "Letter For My Wife" is another.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
A lot like Scientology, it's all about the money. Both of these churches should lose their tax free status. The leaders of this churches should be prosecuted and sent to prison.
I’m not religious, but what is the difference between the Norman’s doing this and the Catholics?
@@adamcraft9118 Catholics like the boys, Mormons like the young girls.
@@tomtaylor3523 omgosh.....too funny!!!
@@adamcraft9118 -Study your history and you won't be so ignorant. Ever hear of all the "Hotel Dieu"s ? Or the Missions? Lot of bad, but even more good.
One of the big differences between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other religions is that it is a lay church. People volunteer thier time. Even the President of the church is not paid. He had a long career as a heart surgeon before joining the leadership. This allows for more money to be put into serving others. Things like the welfare system (ranches, orchards, processing plants), education (universities, online degrees, training & practicums) and of course humanitarian projects. The church gave over 1 billion to humanitarian aid in 2023 alone. The church covers overhead so 100% of donations go to the projects.
This has eery similarities to Scientology schemes.
schemes is a polite term
Yes - all cults have similar characteristics. Scientology is quite a bit more ‘not typical’ - but from what I understand, Mormonism is bad enough.
BINGO
@@dhix2388 True. I should have said "crimes."
Agreed.
I would love to see the leaders of this church sit face to face with Jesus and try to defend their actions.
Oh I can just see how hard JC would be flipping those tables...
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
That will happen but it is not a spectators sport.
Too bad Jesus didn't exist that's how he got you all
That day will come for them
When I was a kid I often went hungry because my mom paid tithing. The church would "help" us by giving us boxes of canned beans and corn that expired five years earlier.
Disgusting
That feels so wrong 😢
😡😡😡
That’s terrible. Feel so bad for you
Omg, horrible
Jesus doesn't need your money in order for you to be saved. That's how you know this religion is false. "By their fruits, you shall know them".
Imagine how many millions of people could be helped if the church were really a church.
I am not a mormon but I read the book of the Mormon and I know it is a testimony of God, just like many other holy writings.
@@elitestockpicks8212
Are you a Qanon member ?
The whole world would be better of if the Reorganized Church ended up being the most popular one.
@@azarahwagner2749 No, she is a Mormon - just lying like the leaders do.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
Its the oldest trick in the human book, selling nothing for profit. Remarkable.
It really is
Selling salvation for profit in the same way that the Catholic Church did. Martin Luther exposed that.
Mormoncorp have sure perfected this scam….💰👍🏽💰.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
And you'll be rewarded after you die! "There'll be pie in the sky in the sweet bye and bye!"🤣
My husband is from El Salvador, in Central America. We have known for years that the Mormon church is owner of one of the most valuable pieces of property there, a sprawling ranch on the shore of Lake Ilopango that is surrounded by high walls and is very secretive. You don't see the Church there open the gate to host activities for children or help the poor. The land just is in a state of holding. It would be worth many millions of dollars, that ranch, in my estimation.
BonnieMcDermid. The church is really the first to respond to disasters in multiple areas of the world. The church is one of the few religions who believe in education for less developed countries and finance it for many. If you are blessed help others. The church emphasis is to love others and to help them.
It is not wrong to invest in land and hold onto it. I wish I had more of it.
@@dpratt7777 It is if the people who donated that money was going to charity.
CIA visit often?
Yes that is also all true, and I'm also a member. I love my church!
Omg! As an ex Mormon. I am so glad to see the church be held to account. Perhaps a further expose on all its cult practices is in order.
As an ex Mormon, you don't know what you are talking about.
@@raptman5425triggered much?
@@raptman5425😂guess you don't believe all the scandals happening in Utah right now😂
You know the Church is truth. Don't deceive yourself. Comme home.
@@giselemathews1511 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just walks the streets of Hamilton, Vancouver at 8 pm, you will know how much money is required for real charity. Homelessness, loneliness, drug addiction etc
And the fact that horrible so called church has all that money, yet not willing to help needy Canadians, is sick.😡
@@davisholman8149 happens all over the world sadly 🥲
@@joannbowden6220 This is true happening every where all around the world.
I was denied using a bathroom at a gas station after travelling home from seeing my ill son by your people here in Canada!
@@MsVictoria4ever I’m sorry that this happened to you. It is against the law for an establishment which sells food or beverages to refuse use of a washroom. You should report this to the provincial ministry of transportation.
A pastor of a church just bought a million dollar house and is my new neighbor. The other day I found out he has other 4 houses that are huge and expensive that he rents out. It surely pays to sell salvation!!
the LDS church doesn't have any pastors
The pastor is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is the sheeples that support him.
@@jodsterf comprehension issues dude?, he was saying a Pastor...not a Bishop, is his neighbor, and he is quite wealthy...
Meanwhile Obama
Mansion In Washington DC
Mansion on Martha’s Vineyard
Mansion in Honolulu
The WORD states that many are in it for their own benefit.
Seems there is MUCH CORRUPTION in ALL RELIGIONS.... THE CHURCH HAS FAILED....FAILED THE CONGREGATIONS AND GOD....
Because there is no god.
No religion ever has produced any evidence whatsoever as to the existence of a metaphysical sky daddy!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the largest single landowner in the United States, from huge ranching and orchard operations, to the SLC mall to luxury apartment buildings. When did God approve this?
Um, when He made it in the first place?
Tell us more about your theory of a god approving land holdings. Puh-leeze.
It’s not the largest. And the church built the mall to revitalize downtown and it worked. If we are to be a worldwide church then we need to be able to fund that.
Vatican says hold my beer
The current Mormon prophet talks directly to godď
What god would allow this fraud? There are none.
The very fact that the LDS corporation built a multi-billion dollar shopping mall in Salt Lake City with tithing money should exempt it from it's tax free status.
Never!…… Read the constitution !!!
@@rsmyth75
There is a clear distinction between religions and money making corporations. LDS looks more like a Corporation.
At least be honest enough to recognize the difference between money generated from LDS Church owned businesses, invested reserves, and money coming in each year from tithing. You should also know that LDS Church owned businesses do pay all state and federal taxes that are required.
I would think you would be more concerned about charitable donations going to people / leaders who use it to provide themselves with a lavish lifestyle rather than for church purposes and humanitarian aid. Those type of financial abuses by leaders doesnt happen with the LDS Church. If it did, believe me you would have heard about it as part of this CBC hit piece.
I would suggest you worry more about your own donations to charity (you do make them dont you?) and less about what orgainizations other people chose to donate to.
@@outsideview9052 Bravo!!
What makes you even think citycreek was built with tithingfunds? Clear proof you have not done your research. You need to understand the LDS business corporation which is taxable just like any other business. Deseret management is wealthy and donations are wholly separate from Deseret management. Tithing funds are totally apart from malls.
Wait. A. Minute. The church built a mall? A MALL!?! Are you kidding me!?! Be in the world, not of it...not be in the world and worship the god of it. This is unacceptable. God bless the brave men who are doing what's right over what's easiest or most profitable.
It gets way worse when you look at what Kirton McConkie is doing and how much tithing goes there.
The mall is surprising the least horrible thing about this.
This story only just barely touches the surface of the real story of the church in the US. I see it every day in my profession.
@@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 It use to be the Kirton McConkie and Poelman law firm. Have to search why the name changed.
It’s just what Jesus would want. “Go sell all you have, build a luxury shopping mall, and come follow me.”
@@ChaChaDancin I'm pretty sure I remember that verse too! 😆
Would love to see The Fifth Estate do a deep dive into the US government and where the taxpayer money goes. Wouldn’t be just an hour video.
I would love that on the Canadian government but since Trudeau and CBC are connected at the hip we would not get the truth anyway.
Well said.
Especially how much the 45th President creamed off for himself.
@@PrincessGold1 45th gave his salary to charities. How about how much Sleepy Joe and his son was paid by other countries. Trump broke you ?
How about doing it for the Canadian government, too. Do it for every government. And do it in depth.
The LDS church is in fact a business. Period. Anyone that argues that is a church member. Hypocritical? Yes.
1. Owns shares in Coke yet frowns on drinking caffeine.
2. Owns shares in Budweiser yet forbids drinking alcohol.
3. Smoking, drinking, caffeine fueled drinks and chewing tobacco are all frowned upon YET selling it in mormon owned stores is ok, cause it's money.
Idiocy
Religion is hypocrisy
Well DUDE the money is prolly in a mutual fund that the church cant separate out .
U can drink soda special
All cults need to be held accountable
Does that include the Covid Cult?
Starting with the alphabet soup cult
How much do you know about the preposterous beginnings of the Mormon church? Religion is all nonsense but Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses are two of the silliest Xtian "sects".
Yes, it's the JWs turn next.
I am not active in church right now but I will affirm it is not a Cult and people respect that we based in conservative ideas and families, means a patriarchal family, a mother and their kids and that the way has to be
In the Last days "There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be known."
yep, that scripture isn't talking about the church as the funds are being used very judiciously. it is talking about the evils of the day and the Canadian government is part of the evil I speak of.
The corruptions are So.Much.More! then just money.
Wherever there's money, there's corruption. It never fails!!
All these brands of Christianity are just deceiving people.
Where did $1 Billion go? How about the same place that the original records of births , deaths, and marriages went that never were returned or copied..............
I am from Central America, Guatemala, by the earthquake in 1976, the church built many houses all around the country. Plus food and another items. In Mexico for years almost every chapel in the 60s. and 70s Monday through Fridays was functioning as elementary schools!! I served as missionary in El Salvador for 2 years with other 26 friends how can't survive preaching for two years and the Church paid all the expenses. Many of my companions were able to graduate from BYU. Now I am in Florida surviving 9 hurricanes and see the massive help of the LDS Church to any individual without asking religious affiliation.
So True
It's a cult
@@eagledice2008 Then all religions are cults by your definition.
@@edpeaceofmindIf I have to pay the church or get my children food, I’ll be getting my children food.
Okay glad it worked 4 u. You are 1 in a million
Jesus himself warned us about false religions and false prophets such as the LDS.
LDS is certainly a corporation...wrapped in a cloak of deceit.
Latter Day Swindle
I desperately waited for this story.. u really have the guts to share these scams..
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
You desperately waited for this story....to prove the church wrong?
What is the reason that you desperately waited?
@@kevin6550694 because, couple of days ago I read the article in CBC News and I was curious to know about it.
THAT'S WHY
@@kamal8040 why are you so desperate?
Kamalpreet, I agree he has guts and faith, I pray the Lord Jesus watch over all of them and their families.
The Mormon Church was the first orginazation to arrive in New Orleans with first aid and emergency items such as food, clothes etc. right after hurrican Katrina .
Someone had to. Dubya's government didn't bother for days (might've had something to do with the race of the majority of the people affected--ya think?). Anyway, great way to get converts and all those extra tithes to buy a few emergency supplies and a whole lot of real estate.
@@sarahsnowe It's not that hard to make the right decisions in life . Just don't let the blind , brainwashed and subverted get in your way while you do it . This is America , most of em don't even know the meaning of the word subversion or what it means for an entire nation to be subverted . Even after the whole place was demoralized decades ago . How do you think all those Grandmothers wound up with dope habits , green hair , bankrupt and in prison ?
None of that money comes from tithing. ALL charitable donations come from the Humanitarian Aid fund.
lol…that’s not true.
This idea that the church is taking away from governments is hilarious. Also the church needs to start paying taxes this is ridiculous. I’d love for my money back but I also acknowledge that I volunteered my money, even though I was lied to about the church’s truth claims. That money is long gone.
Three words: Class Action Lawsuit
Cbc gets a billion dollar taxpayer handout every year and the taxpayer doesn't have a choice. When are you going to do a story on that ?
Yes!!! We need a story on why we are funding news stations!
Using landholding as a tax-exempt loophole on mass scale reminds me of what scientology is doing.
Now THIS is well done!!!! Good for those who stood up and did something!!!
There is NO story here. BYU subsidizes not only members' education but non-members as well. BYU tuition has been rated as having the greatest value for money compared to any US University(See BYU Pathway and make comparisons). Fast offerings(not tithing) is used for humanitarian project(note humanitarian). I also don't get how a social moral issue(sexuality) is intermixed with financial issues as proving fraud. How does that prove fraud! There is unfortunately no story nor sincerity in your documentary.
@@anathiqinisile6379😂😂😂
@@anathiqinisile6379 You are conveniently ignoring the truth. Outside the U.S. the Mormon Church is haemorrhaging members. There is no longer a church where I live. I'm not surprised by the loss of members. The Church may have influence in the U.S., but it doesn't have any outside. It really is just a massive corporation that dabbles in religion.
@@anathiqinisile6379so, how much is tuition? Very curious.
@@christinabeck9316Someone answer this youg lady! I wet to BYU in the 70s, a semester was about $650 then.
Very important piece of journalism. We demand financial transparency for any publicly-trade company. I expect the same for any organization exempt from taxes.
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
LDS Church voluntarily pays more tax than any other Church in North America. Take time to learn before pushing keys.
Absolutely. If you’re tax exempt, your entire financial history should be accessible to the public.
@@raptman5425 According to whom?
@@raptman5425 Source that
I would have liked to seen some unbiased tax attorneys explaining the rationale behind the church's activities based on Canada's current tax laws. It may be that the church is following Canada's laws, regardless of whether the interviewees approve or not. This news report makes plenty of allegations of corruption, but where are the indictments from the Canadian or US governments? It's been two years since the "whistleblower guy" did his expose in the US, but I have read about no Federal lawsuits, no indictments, no IRS anything. Or what about the Canada Revenue Agency?
Also, I read that "the Mormon Church has been accused of engaging in significant tax evasion in Australia", but accused by WHOM? As far as I can tell, the accusations come from journalists, but NOT the Australian government.
Thank you for pointing that out.
i totally agree with you. and im disappointed with the investigative journalism that only told one biased side of a story without the proof or and evidence to support the inuendos
Great insight
Matthew 6:19-20
Lay Up Treasures in Heaven
19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal."
It doesn't matter what the government says, right! But scripture is clear! Please consider this truth! 💜🙏💜
@@jodsterf Well, in fairness this did include clips of church leader David Bednar speaking about church finances, while playing ominous music in the background.
We're at that transition point where humans are getting tired of bs religions of all kinds.
Pulpit pimping is the most profitable, least taxed business. The cult of LDS.
"I believe the church built an empire by deceiving people."
LOL This man just described all religions.
Dont want to judge or critique LDS" theology. But I feel like any religion that says you should pay your tithe before feeding your family, should raise massive red flags. Cant imagine any god want people to starve in order to pay tithe
the lds church would never do that. but if you need food or help with your rent and bills, you have to tell your bishop so he can help you, you can't just complain that you paid tithing and then couldnt feed your kids because you didn't let your bishop know.
@@jodsterf I’m literally quoting what a LDS pastor/priest said in this documentary
Exactly… so makes you question the validity of this journalist
With C$1 billion Mormon Church could have built a Brigham Young University campus in Canada. Why send Canadian donations/tithe to Utah, USA ?
Headquartered in USA.
Exactly ...
Mormon's God needs MONEY ! Why Jesus Christ needs HUGE MONEY?
Thithing is optional always! If your church says otherwise, run 🏃♂️
Truth.
It's an Old Testament law that doesn't apply to Christians.
@@kevinmorgan8534 I don't fully understand traditional Christianity. Can you explain, please?
We are not under the law but under Christ . In Christ Jesus living in grace in the new testament there is no tithe. Paul Peter never took tithes. The only giving spoken of if from a willing cheerful heart offering from your heart.
@@kudamapfumo9316 excellent explanation .
Ex-Mormon here. There’s definitely lots to be concerned with including their financial practices. I don’t know that the BYU thing is a hidden conspiracy though. The church has been pretty open about that as long as I’ve been alive
If you notice, at 7:50 he says one hundred ten million. It's almost one hundred ten thousand. It says on thousands. So, I'm not sure how accurate this is
Our society is different. Even without religion or politics mixed into it, we do not hug and kiss for public display. It is nothing even related to homophobia. We respect other people’s private space and public sensibilities and it may also be perhaps, a mix of cultural beliefs and practices. Overwhelming affections that may have sexual intimacy variety are best done in private, and the best to display it is only with your partner in a room where nobody needs to witness it. Patting the shoulders briefly if he or she is a family or friend, or shaking hands to congratulate, smile, even bow down or acknowledging with nodding of head, waving, will just do fine in public.
@@sheilatuano9633 how deeply sad. You describe a society without normal human warmth and open interactions.
The picture you paint is of a deeply and unnaturally repressed society - with behaviour that must have required decades at least to condition.
What has been done over many generations scares me.
@@jeffcampbell2710 Accounting reports regularly take off zeroes, presumably to make the numbers more readable. There would be a note on the page, indicating that the figures are shown in thousands (000s), and it should be read as if there are 3 more zeroes on it. This is pretty common and nothing nefarious.
It's really the church for people with disability, the def, sign language and other severe autism the good kind
I feel you, I was brought up Catholic until after one Prist started asking for donations $200/$400 and that is when I started rethinking that religion.
That's a lot to ask for.
Just like anything else,GOOD PRIEST,BAD PRIEST,USE COMMON SENSE WHAT GOD GAVE US,WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING IT'S IN EVERY FAITH
You should join the LDS Church. Maybe find some Happiness.
@@raptman5425 lol haha 😂
The Mormon church asks for 50x that.
It's worth hundreds of billions, yet this organization forces it's own members (many of them elderly) to clean it's buildings as janitors without any compensation. I believe Scientology was also doing this practice of forced labor.
You make up stories often?
@@raptman5425
I personally knew an older couple who were tasked with cleaning their ward building for many months without compensation.
@@raptman5425
The man was also asked to mow their large outside premises with a push mower, also without compensation.
@@raptman5425
This organization forces it's members into roles as janitors and groundskeepers without pay. You know this so please stop lying.
@@johnb5254 I'd just like to verify all this by saying that the Church basically gets _all_ of its manual labor and low-level admin work done by unpaid lay-clergy and "volunteer work", which is often times done by coercion under threat of being ostracized from the group. So this is 100% true.
A Massive Corporation which happens to own aChurch (for tax reasons, you know 😊)
And that's just the numbers we know about.
hopefully the church will vanish soon.
Australia version of 60 minutes is doing a similar expose too recently
I don't think it has aired yet. This expose showed a clip from it tho.
We need more countries to do these exposes! The LDS church is a corporation that dabbles in religion.
It's a profit driven corporation that dabbles in religion.
Grifters just like Scientology
It's never been a secret that tithing money is used to supplement university education at BYU. I, as a Canadian, obtained my bachelor's from one of the smaller campuses and was often reminded that my low tuition was only due to the sacrifice and tithes of others. Tithing supplements the education of those from around the world who pay as little as $100 US per year to obtain a university degree (including housing, food, courses, and insurance).
A large portion of the land owned is orchards, ranches, and farms in the US that provide food for the churches' welfare system. These items are shared with those both in Canada and around the world. I'm disappointed no mention of the bishops' storehouses in Canada not mentioned. Other land holdings included those for chapels, temples, university campuses, historical sites, family camping sites etc.
Precisely. This video is clearly biased and misleading.
Not Mormon, but one of my close friends growing up was, and it's exactly that; she had to pay the fraction of the cost of a typical out of state college which made it affordable to her. I'm not a supporter of the church, however, I feel the documentary missed an opportunity to explain that.
Hun… the math still ain’t mathing. It’s tax evasion and fraud.
Once it’s filtered into BYU it can go anywhere without really having to report it further. Money laundering takes all shapes.
Not Mormon, but an Australian tax payer. I hope the Australian government strips this whack job outfit of its tax deductible status sooner rather than later. Believe whatever bullshit you want, but I don’t want to help pay for it.
This thing is very usual here in Brazil, and the population has no way to stop it. Even the government donate to the church’s for publicity of the candidate in question, so so sad…
LOL, you joke.
Another great one Fifth! I hope we see a follow up of this one! Greed permeates these big corporations. churches is one of the biggest of this greed.
The worst collection of lies and yellow journalism imaginable. All nothing more than a littany of lies from CBC
Don't forget politics like BLM and LGBTQ plus our government.
@@crystalyn2855 can you elaborate? I'm not certain what angle you are coming from. thank you.
@@Janewomanpower don’t hold your breath
Sounds like you have been hurt. Sorry
Latter Day Hustle. Under the LDS, Jesus needs your money.
I feel bad for all these folks who fall for this scam. I mean tithing in general not this specific case.
I'm sorry but I don't. There is a plethora of stories about churches scamming people for centuries. I think churches need to have their tax exempt status re-examined. Especially Mega Churches and churches that wade into politics.
Get some Faith.
Scam?
The money goes to good causes lmao
@@devynselnes4282 No it doesn’t. The church is a fraud.
Its not a realigen its a cult
All churchs must pay tax. Its the only way to avoid fraud.
It is not fraud when you obey the law.
Taxation is theft.
You have made government your god haven't you?
Why would we want the government to have more money instead of churches?
Most charities in the United States, if investigated, would uncover SOME type of crooked activity….that would shock the people……(Starting with the Goodwill industries) 😡
Yeah sure. Whatabout defence opens you up to much criticism.
Surely you are not suggesting that because other charities do fraudulent things, “crooked activities” as you say, that the LDS church should not be held accountable for their fraud?
@@maddexq9107 Absitively and posolutely inclined that way. The entire jaheeeeeeeesusssss movement has become a smarmy monetized industry. Time to open their books.
I don't understand how ppl can't use discernment when listening to church mandates and preaching about money. This has always been a red flag for me. I've had many Mormons and JW come to my door and I would listen but would never fall for their misguided beliefs.
there are just as many misguided ministries, evangelists, etc. But the Mormons are very secretive about their corporation being what is important.
JWs don't make anyone tithe or donate. Everything with them is voluntary without the guilt trips.
@@yfzjoe as a former JW you are so very wrong..judgment and shaming is their entire gig. you don't follow the rules, you're shunned by everyone you know. you lose your friends and family.
i'm not the only one, this is common knowledge👈
From 1986 to 2019, I served in five bishoprics and two stake presidencies in Saskatchewan. Like any congregation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one of our key responsibilities was to care for those in need. We were not perfect, but I was impressed with the leaders' and members' effectiveness. We used a structured and principled approach to: 1) serve and minister to individuals, families, and communities (including those who are not of our faith), 2) share our personal and Church resources with those in need, and 3) help others become self-reliant through education, employment, and managing their personal finances. We did our best to fulfill this complex, sensitive, and nuanced work and the Lord blessed us to help many people.
Doug Robertson . . . I'm glad you posted your comment. I believe you and many of your fellow LDS church members are sincere and doing good for others.
Yeah. But your top brass run it like a business.
@@danawinsor1380 I agree. Only takes a couple of bad seeds at the top to ruin the reputation of an organization or group. Diligence to protect the structure and reputation can only be protected if questions can be answered.
cultist
@@steve75112why be rude? He’s sharing his experience, which sounds wonderful. Isn’t that what we want for our fellow humans?
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
How is that relevant here? No one is alleging anyone has a salary based on these donations. If you're not aware, said church has no local employees, and not one person of the 18M is getting wealthy at all off it. So that quote really doesn't apply here, unless you're talking about the salaries of the "reporters" who made up the story.
We need that tax money back. This is crazy.
100% agree
SO NOW THAT THE FRAUD HAS BEEN BEEN EXPOSED ITS TIME TO CANCEL THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS AND FORCE THEM TO PAY BACK TAXES.
Can I get an AMEN?
AMEN! Let that go for all churches. Imagine what we could do with the billions of dollars that would be unlocked.
Religions sell empty stories and make giant profits
It says the church is obeying the tax laws in each country. Doesn't sound like fraud to me.
Amen!!!
Louder from the back seat!
Amen to that! 🥲
Where did you get the money to buy a 25 million dollar airplane? God gave me that, where did you get the big mansion in the Caribbean?... God gave me that, too.......people open your eyes
The IRS should monitor the income of all churches. Only those money's that donated to charity should be tax exempted. All other money should be taxed as income.
The Aussies do that but the Mormon church cheated that system too.
The LDS corporation is greedy plain and simple. The Mormon members are so mislead. What profit a man to gain the whole world and yet lose his own soul ?
As a non Mormon Christian I believe tithing is important if you can afford to but in tough times you cannot give money away and remain hungry…
O ye, of little faith
Christ did not teach Tithing , your not bound to obey it ,it was meant for the Israelites.That law was chaanged when Christ came.
You are ask to tithe 10% , and if you need help you can go to the bishop and ask for help...we are taught to be self sufficient, thrust worthy, and do good to out fellow man...I’ve learned more from the teaching of the church than any formal education! It’s well worth it!
@@ernaniartates7709 True... Until the Lord came back and told his people where he had just started one little Church in Fayette, NY... in 1830 that he would tithe his people. And now it is a world wide church that is just about everywhere.
God didn't say, "pay tithing when you can afford to".
Who is watching this while wearing their magic underwear? 🙋🏻♂
🙋♂️
I got rid of mine a little while back.
My only question about this “religion” is from 1820ish to mid 80’s-90’s…I not exactly when it happened. Black people weren’t allowed to hold your priesthood. Of all those prophets/presidents/leaders that were receiving revelation from “God” all those years not allowing this to happen. Either zero revelations from god or your god sucks. I’m going with both options there
Transfer of wealth usually occur during recession, so the more stocks drop, the more I buy, in the meanwhile I'm just focused on making better investments and earning more as recession fear increases, apparently there are strategies to 3x gains in this present market because I read of someone that pulled a profit of $350k within 6months, what are the best stocks to buy now or put on a watchlist?
Find stocks with market-beating yields and shares that at least keep pace with the market for a long term. For a successful long-term strategy I recommend you seek the guidance a broker or financial advisor.
@@Alejandracamacho357 Very true..I've been in constant touch with a Financial-Adviser for the past 23 months. You know, these days it's really easy to buy into trending stocks, but the task is determining when to sell or keep. That's where my manager comes in, to help me with entry and exit points in the industries I'm engaged in. Can’t say I regret it, I’m 63% up in profits just in Q3 of 2023.
@@Robertgriffinne
@@marianparker7502 My adviser is "Corinne Cecilia Heaney" You can easily look her up. She has years of financial market experience and she is also FINRA & SEC verifiable.
@@Robertgriffinne I just looked up 'Corinne online and researched her accreditation. She seem very proficient, I wrote her detailing my Fin-market goals and scheduled a call
As an exmormon, for some reason white shirts and ties are triggering to me. Just the sight of them, regardless of context, sends waves of incredibly palpable stress and anxiety through my whole body.
Reprobate
A calling to repentance perhaps and to come back to the fold. We all make mistakes
@@thepreacher5934 Who? You?
Hopefully people wake up and stop the donations to the cash cow
Call it whatever derogatory disparaging name you want. The donations will never end because it is a commandment and God guides his church to preach to every kindred, nation and tongue. He is the one that provides the donations through the generous faith giving of his obedient children. God blesses his true church. Only the haters will continue to hate and one day that will stop.
@@RealLadyG
It’s funny, just a few years ago crazies like you would have flooded the comment section with culty remarks like yours. Now look around, you’re almost all alone. The joke is on you.
BYU = Money Laundering
Canada equals money laundering. Fentanyl money laundering into real estate.
We have all been duped. No more for me.
It's happening everywhere unfortunately.
Nonprofits, charities etc
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
You should make a video on the Vatican, I would love to see it!
Mmmhh,, catholic church is not considered wealthy..
That would be a multi-season series
It would have to be done in episodes & would have sequels after sequels which is watch but I'm not build ing my hopes up cos the pope isn't gonna show his ins and outs?😎 I remember the last Vatican banker to be found hung on Blackfriars bridge in London?
Rob
Yorkshire,uk.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Should be labelled as a terrorist organization.
It also is controlled and used as a front by the CIA.
How so?, Examples or Evidence?
@@soiledbear2051 Didn't you see MIB? The guy says so.
I guess the Mormons don’t know the Bible at all especial in the New Testament Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money
Fyi, Jesus is rarely mentioned during their sacrament meetings.
Big lie there. That's the essence of the sacrament, the body and blood symbolism of Jessus Christ's atonement and all other commandments are just appendages to it. Of course Jesus Christ is the most mentioned topic of sacrament meetings and Sunday Schools, the Church is essentially named after Him.
Why don't you investigate the Canadian federal government with such vigor? Hmm?
Totally
Point#8 30:35 There is no church in the world that forces its members to give tithing or else. You give money became you want to, you go to church because you want to, you help people in the street became you want to. To this man and anyone who donates money and want a tax write off on your taxes, then you are not really doing the donation for the right reason. The widow's mite in the Bible. I don't think that she said, hey! want a tax write off document for my donation. Or when Judas betrayed Jesus, she said what a false of a church I want my money back. If anyone is going to do an act of charity towards another, do it became it's in your heart without thinking first on writing it off on your taxes. This man is bitter.
Considering that Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the church of Scientology, evangelism, and the largest military industrial complex in the world all come from the United States I kinda doubt that the Mormon church is the single wealthiest land owner.
That's probably in regards to a tax free cult being the single largest wealthiest land owner...
@@hokehinson5987 That cult is over 16 million strong and we all have membership rights if we pay our tithing.
15 billion is not a particularly large property portfolio there must be many organisations that have bigger ones. I wonder what the Roman Catholic church portfolio is worth . For this reason I take what this video says with a pinch of salt.
And the IRS did not comment, nothing proven to be wrong so far.
Google search says Catholic Church’s property portfolio is similar to Mormons. Although-23.0% are Catholics, 1.8% are Mormons.
It's quite shocking how people expect churches and religion to make them happy...listen to your own self do not follow other beliefs
And where does that get you?
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@@egoldthorp1 I don't follow any organization or religion...I believe in myself..
@@lauraarcher1730 a happy life.
Just like Scientology!!!!!!!!!!
I believe in the law of tithing, however, I believe that I can give it directly to the most needy, not necessarily to the Mormon church. By doing so, I can readily see where my tithing money is going more effectively and honestly 🤷🏻♀️😇🙏🏽
And that is totally your choice.
Another name is called charities. Charities are amazing.
@@HermicraftAddict Did you know that the so-called charities are also corrupt? As long as you let people in charge, trouble begins.
@@Phi1Productions Certain ones are equally corrupt (I won't name the top ones off my head) However, good ones like The Food Bank actually help people who are hungry without all the hoops.
@@HermicraftAddict To be clear, there is no corruption being alleged in this article.
It's All Criminal It's All Corrupt
Good thing you are not a Judge or Jury... LOL
One cannot have rich looking church if money is actually used for charity
I so agree! The irony staring right in our faces!
Tithing is different from offerings. The ones used for building and maintaining these edifices are thru tithing, while the ones used for charity are from offerings. Charity first of its members and also non-memebers alike. The Church is one of the largest orgs that has humanitarian efforts anywhere else. You all just don't know
@@topesportsgaming6572 Isnt it the talk of the ego when one says " you ALL doesnt know" that automatically implies I alone knows and my way is the only Truth? Yes church does charity thats right, but true charity is one without expectations. When the same church involves in various conversion activities across the globe, destroys local culture and religion, one cannot call it as charity anymore.
@@TheRamnath007 how extensive is your knowledge of the Church humanitarian aid and charity so that my thoughts of "you just don't know" can be refuted? Pls tell me.
Compared to most other world religions, Mormonism is "new" religion (i.e. an even crazier version than most sects of Christianity).
Mormons will be found out just like them all! GOOD WORK!!!
Excellent start. A missing component of this topic is the major expansion of the Mormon Church in Asia and SE. Asian countries. E.g. Samoa, Fiji, Cambodia,
Samoa & Fiji are Pacific countries, not Southeast Asian.
Ask me what I know. Canadian ....lived in Salt Lake City. Few mormans know scripture as written in the Bible.
Thanks Fifth Estate for educating us about the evil doing in this Mormon church.
Latter Day Scam Artists.