Good info about the 2 brands, lots of people on RUclips/podcasts that ignore the issues their brand has and only talk about what color of wrap they are doing this year, and how loud there new exhaust is. I’m a ski doo guy for the record
Tom’s snowmobiles in Sierraville CA. I’m on the dark side riding a Polaris, however I rode a gen5 54 3” with toms skid, clutch, tune. The performance, ride ability and the customer service at toms is second to none. Does not feel like a dealership. Mom and pop feel where they actually care and want to keep you on the snow.
Ohlins shocks , elevate kit, ibexx clutching and tune,rpm boost tubes , backwoods bumpers,hellfire wheels,c&a skis, then all your preferances for bars and brakes and stuff
I switched from Polaris to skidoo last year and also liked the Polaris chassis. To make the skidoo more enjoyable I did two essential and one preferred mods. Essential is the post forward kit and upgraded ski rubbers. The post forward mod took the cockpit from feeling jammed in my lap closer to the upright feel of Polaris. I used the salazzking rubbers but if I were to buy again I’d buy the iBackshift (iSidehill I think) version. While not essential the iBackshift clutch kit made the bottom end more responsive. My sled has been solid reliable for 1200 miles, never a hiccup and there is no way I’d go back. It’s predictable, sidehills well and I find it very responsive in the trees. The ONLY thing I don’t like is the flimsy track, I’ve had to glue or cut off a dozen paddles and have a new track ready when this one gives up the ghost. I hope the skidoo works out for ya, I love mine.
There’s no comparison in reliability between skidoo and Polaris, Polaris has 10x more engine failures than skidoo. The new gen 5 is a fantastic chassis.
Two broken motor mounts on my gen 5 and it’s still throwing bow ties and hitting cliff drops while the clutch is bouncing around. Ski doo can sure take a beating
Bought a 23 turbo expert, first ride on the driveway I found the track waaay too tight to prevent ratcheting. Before I even took it out and put avid drivers and I run the track real loose and never had it ratchet, toe holds, salazz kings ski rubbers, race rubber kill switch rubber, cooler guard and skidplate, seat box
I do want better front shocks…..I also believe that if your good enough you can adapt and make the sled do what you want regardless of chassis, maybe Polaris is easier but ill take my g5 anywhere they can go.
I’ve owned 3 arctic cats in the last 6 years or more and went from a 2012 Arctic cat M8 and decided to jump on the ski-doo band wagon because cat is so behind and I wanted to hop on a chassis with big changes and see what its made of. I honestly think you have to explore more brands to get a sled you really love.
To answer the question on what the Gen 5 Expert package needs: Shocks. I have a ‘23 Turbo Expert and the shocks were junk. I put on Fox and it made a big difference for handling and the whooped trails.
Estimates are BRP has about 60% of the sled market and Polaris about 35%. Arctic Cat snd Yamaha have about 5% together which is why Yamaha is exiting the market and Arctic Cat is closing. Too bad because AC was making some very competitive units. Maybe they will be bought and resurrected.
Having a 24 Polaris and a 24 ski doo in my garage I can say the Polaris is like the hot girl in the bar and that is gonna bang the hell outta ya and the ski doo is her kind of ugly friend your buddy takes home.
@@1xofreerider570 been on Polaris last 5 years never let me down once. Never popped a belt. Last ski doo in 15 belt poppin bitch. Hope the ski doo doesn’t disapoint
Good honest back and forth. Loved my axys poos, seen the matryx’s be a headache jumped into a 23’ G5. As a poo guy get a rasmusen post forward kit, salza king rubbers. Or swap skis to grippers, durapro has a ski rubber for this. Will get it closer to a polaris. But it’s different for sure there will be moments when you miss your poo in the tight technical for sure but then the seamless G5 power hits and rockets you up the hill. The G5 likes to be on plane, if skis-are on ground it feels heavy. You will love the G5 no cloud of smoke when cold, starts first half pull then use shot all day, crisp clean power all day no matter what, so smooth on trail in, G5 track is great in deep snow. I dislike the G5 brake, no stopping power and dont like how heavy it feels going slow. Once on plane its weightless. I also miss working on my polaris always something to do. The skidoo just add gas and oil almost boring coming from poo haha ha
I have a 23' G5 expert turbo and it can hold a side hill great and hold a great line, but still struggle with it wanting to climb uphill on steep side hill even with the bars turned away from the hill.
I did a Vohk tune and clutching! It’s a big difference I was running the 100ll tune which was a huge improvement then I ran the 100ll intercooled tune and that was an even bigger difference!!
I just picked up my first ever sled.2024 expedition crossover.my dealer was blowing out all their 2024 models at very good prices but I didn't want anything crazy.I'm almost 58.i have a maverick x3 I used to run tracks on and an outlander as well.one thing i did learn is to get all risk insurance.my old side by side was a steaming pile of dog dirt,so I smashed a rock big enough to break the frame.they paid me out the whole declared value of 32k.all my machines have it.if I get a lemon....
Seems like the intelligent thing to do is switch, no matter what brand you ride if it don't run it's no fun. I agree you should do a motor swap and make a skilaris.
I would never go back to Polaris Reliability is the biggest factor for me! If I am going on a trip taking time off of work and there's no way in hell I'm gonna sit in the cabin and my my buddies are riding !! That's why I own Skidoo and a Lynx! All my buddies when I pull up to them and there hood is off and they say don't say a word. I just laugh in my helmet😂😂
Snowmobiles, especially Polaris ones, lose a TON of resale value because they make so many of them. That and I'm done with Polaris; I will NEVER own another. Too many recalls. I bought a new '24 Sportsman 850 back in March and two months later Polaris drops a stop-ride recall on it and didn't have a fix til SEPTEMBER so we lost the entire damn Summer. The quad and my one-season-old '23 Khaos are for sale. Probably will lose my butt on both of them. I'm switching back to Arctic Cat now that they have a good, lightweight sled again. As for Ski-Doo, I've ridden one and also a Lynx. They're stuck to the ground. I could NOT get them up on one ski. And their throttle was so twitchy it was hard to ride.
I find a lot of Americans don't know the difference between Bombardier and BRP. The Bombardier family is part owner of both but bothe companies trade different in the stock market. As a Canadian I will never buy a BRP product. Both BRP and Bombardier are 2 of the most corrupt companies in business today.
@SHUlivin ya I also would like to know the amount of money of our tax dollars goes into brp vs polaris gets from state and federal ? I'm guessing polaris gets peanuts compared to brp.
Doing builds as a hobby is a complete waste of money. You decide to be the research department using your own money with nothing to sell for profit in the end. Unless you actually have a purpose such as racing your just wasting time and money. Making your machine 5 to 10% better is not going to make your trip THAT much better. Adding a few mods like studs or accessories is one thing, know where to draw the line.
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i´ve only watched 2 videos and already think this is THE MOST underated snowmobile channel
Shot is sooooo good!
Good info about the 2 brands, lots of people on RUclips/podcasts that ignore the issues their brand has and only talk about what color of wrap they are doing this year, and how loud there new exhaust is. I’m a ski doo guy for the record
Tom’s snowmobiles in Sierraville CA. I’m on the dark side riding a Polaris, however I rode a gen5 54 3” with toms skid, clutch, tune. The performance, ride ability and the customer service at toms is second to none. Does not feel like a dealership. Mom and pop feel where they actually care and want to keep you on the snow.
Ohlins shocks , elevate kit, ibexx clutching and tune,rpm boost tubes , backwoods bumpers,hellfire wheels,c&a skis, then all your preferances for bars and brakes and stuff
I switched from Polaris to skidoo last year and also liked the Polaris chassis. To make the skidoo more enjoyable I did two essential and one preferred mods. Essential is the post forward kit and upgraded ski rubbers. The post forward mod took the cockpit from feeling jammed in my lap closer to the upright feel of Polaris. I used the salazzking rubbers but if I were to buy again I’d buy the iBackshift (iSidehill I think) version. While not essential the iBackshift clutch kit made the bottom end more responsive. My sled has been solid reliable for 1200 miles, never a hiccup and there is no way I’d go back. It’s predictable, sidehills well and I find it very responsive in the trees. The ONLY thing I don’t like is the flimsy track, I’ve had to glue or cut off a dozen paddles and have a new track ready when this one gives up the ghost. I hope the skidoo works out for ya, I love mine.
There’s no comparison in reliability between skidoo and Polaris, Polaris has 10x more engine failures than skidoo. The new gen 5 is a fantastic chassis.
Two broken motor mounts on my gen 5 and it’s still throwing bow ties and hitting cliff drops while the clutch is bouncing around. Ski doo can sure take a beating
How do you know this? What are the failure rates between the two manufactures?
Lol that’s called an opinion. Have seen tons of issues on the Gen 5.
Bought a 23 turbo expert, first ride on the driveway I found the track waaay too tight to prevent ratcheting. Before I even took it out and put avid drivers and I run the track real loose and never had it ratchet, toe holds, salazz kings ski rubbers, race rubber kill switch rubber, cooler guard and skidplate, seat box
I do want better front shocks…..I also believe that if your good enough you can adapt and make the sled do what you want regardless of chassis, maybe Polaris is easier but ill take my g5 anywhere they can go.
I’ve owned 3 arctic cats in the last 6 years or more and went from a 2012 Arctic cat M8 and decided to jump on the ski-doo band wagon because cat is so behind and I wanted to hop on a chassis with big changes and see what its made of. I honestly think you have to explore more brands to get a sled you really love.
I agree 100% at the end of the day it’s preference. I think each brand has strengths and weaknesses. But you are 100% right
To answer the question on what the Gen 5 Expert package needs: Shocks. I have a ‘23 Turbo Expert and the shocks were junk. I put on Fox and it made a big difference for handling and the whooped trails.
@@lrwmotorsports2966 good to know thank you!!!!
Estimates are BRP has about 60% of the sled market and Polaris about 35%. Arctic Cat snd Yamaha have about 5% together which is why Yamaha is exiting the market and Arctic Cat is closing. Too bad because AC was making some very competitive units. Maybe they will be bought and resurrected.
Having a 24 Polaris and a 24 ski doo in my garage I can say the Polaris is like the hot girl in the bar and that is gonna bang the hell outta ya and the ski doo is her kind of ugly friend your buddy takes home.
@@JromeM best analogy yet
Best to have 1 of each
@@1xofreerider570 been on Polaris last 5 years never let me down once. Never popped a belt. Last ski doo in 15 belt poppin bitch. Hope the ski doo doesn’t disapoint
Good honest back and forth.
Loved my axys poos, seen the matryx’s be a headache jumped into a 23’ G5.
As a poo guy get a rasmusen post forward kit, salza king rubbers.
Or swap skis to grippers, durapro has a ski rubber for this.
Will get it closer to a polaris.
But it’s different for sure there will be moments when you miss your poo in the tight technical for sure but then the seamless G5 power hits and rockets you up the hill.
The G5 likes to be on plane, if skis-are on ground it feels heavy.
You will love the G5 no cloud of smoke when cold, starts first half pull then use shot all day, crisp clean power all day no matter what, so smooth on trail in, G5 track is great in deep snow.
I dislike the G5 brake, no stopping power and dont like how heavy it feels going slow. Once on plane its weightless.
I also miss working on my polaris always something to do.
The skidoo just add gas and oil almost boring coming from poo haha ha
idk why they havent switched away from brembo, they are clearly further behind when it comes to breaks…
post forward is a must for every ski doo!
I have a 23' G5 expert turbo and it can hold a side hill great and hold a great line, but still struggle with it wanting to climb uphill on steep side hill even with the bars turned away from the hill.
Brent, what did you do to your polaris boost to get the bottom end response better than ski doo 850
turbo r? I'm very interested!
I did a Vohk tune and clutching! It’s a big difference I was running the 100ll tune which was a huge improvement then I ran the 100ll intercooled tune and that was an even bigger difference!!
Thank you sir! Have you also installed an intercooler? Or just an intercooler tune?
Great video. Definitely need more lighting though.
I just picked up my first ever sled.2024 expedition crossover.my dealer was blowing out all their 2024 models at very good prices but I didn't want anything crazy.I'm almost 58.i have a maverick x3 I used to run tracks on and an outlander as well.one thing i did learn is to get all risk insurance.my old side by side was a steaming pile of dog dirt,so I smashed a rock big enough to break the frame.they paid me out the whole declared value of 32k.all my machines have it.if I get a lemon....
What year was Aj‘S boost that was the lemon?
It is a 24
Have fun paying 250 a belt for the doo. Should only go through 4 or 5.
Seems like the intelligent thing to do is switch, no matter what brand you ride if it don't run it's no fun. I agree you should do a motor swap and make a skilaris.
kyber anodized controls, ski rubbers, etc.
I would never go back to Polaris Reliability is the biggest factor for me! If I am going on a trip taking time off of work and there's no way in hell I'm gonna sit in the cabin and my my buddies are riding !! That's why I own Skidoo and a Lynx! All my buddies when I pull up to them and there hood is off and they say don't say a word. I just laugh in my helmet😂😂
Snowmobiles, especially Polaris ones, lose a TON of resale value because they make so many of them. That and I'm done with Polaris; I will NEVER own another. Too many recalls. I bought a new '24 Sportsman 850 back in March and two months later Polaris drops a stop-ride recall on it and didn't have a fix til SEPTEMBER so we lost the entire damn Summer. The quad and my one-season-old '23 Khaos are for sale. Probably will lose my butt on both of them. I'm switching back to Arctic Cat now that they have a good, lightweight sled again.
As for Ski-Doo, I've ridden one and also a Lynx. They're stuck to the ground. I could NOT get them up on one ski. And their throttle was so twitchy it was hard to ride.
Your making an emotional decision that you will financially regret.
@@petebusch9069how so?
What weight would you put on the having a shitty Polaris dealer vs shitty Manufacturing?
Kiss of death! Goodbye to your final year on a Poo.. to go Doo Learjet>Dodge pickup
BRP does not make airplanes
I've personally seen their engines in plains, small ones, still not as common a a Lycoming or continental, but I've Seen a small handful.
I find a lot of Americans don't know the difference between Bombardier and BRP. The Bombardier family is part owner of both but bothe companies trade different in the stock market. As a Canadian I will never buy a BRP product. Both BRP and Bombardier are 2 of the most corrupt companies in business today.
Rotax makes airplane engines. That’s what he’s talking about. Hes making a point about reliability.
@SHUlivin ya I also would like to know the amount of money of our tax dollars goes into brp vs polaris gets from state and federal ? I'm guessing polaris gets peanuts compared to brp.
@@SHUlivinBRP is subsidized by the Canadian government which gives it a massive edge in the market with government financial support.
Doing builds as a hobby is a complete waste of money. You decide to be the research department using your own money with nothing to sell for profit in the end. Unless you actually have a purpose such as racing your just wasting time and money. Making your machine 5 to 10% better is not going to make your trip THAT much better. Adding a few mods like studs or accessories is one thing, know where to draw the line.
A good hobby just needs to be fun for the person, ans they need to be able to afford it.