Horus Heresy BLACKSHIELDS Army Guide | Warhammer Age of Darkness
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Let's make Heresy INTERESTING. Wanna run an army of dumb clones? Space pirates with useless pistols? Astartes with stolen Xenos weapons blowing themselves up? Well then the Blackshields army list is perfect!
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Blackshields are pure distilled “Your Dudes” in army form. It’s also cool that there’s now an army that rewards/doesn’t punish players who prefer to use the generic legion units over the unique legion-specific options.
Now to fight the urge to build another psyker astartes army…
Good luck with that.
I've said "this will be my final army" too many times already.
Psykers + Pirates = Blood Ravens :D
It's extremely funny that "blackshields" is the term for unaffiliated space marines when there's like 4 legions that wear black power armour
Marines with lasguns, my beloved
I actually have a metal one with an autogun somewhere.
I think I've still got that Marine with shuriken catapult stashed away somewhere.
Armoury of Desperation... All with Twin Stub carbines.. Highnoon Marines
The Terminator: Marines all wielding double space AKs
We'll be backa-dakka-dakka
I'm gonna make some with Halo 3D printed guns
To the sector of Beta-Garmon rode a Blackshield one fine day…
@@LordCrate-du8zm Hardly voxed around him, didn't have too much to saayyyy
I do miss this kind of rules flexibility and whackiness in 40k.
Like I remember waaaay back in 4th Edition (this was I think the 3rd edition Guard codex though) - you could do fun and odd stuff like give the entire army carapace armor, because they were from a wealthy or industrial world. Or give them melee weapons and pistols instead of rifles because they were from a feral world.
Heck I even was good with the 9th edition way of 'choose faction, choose subfaction; often with some sort of 'make your own' option' thing.
It's neat to see that it still lives on somewhere at least.
My son used those rules for his IG army.
I recall 3rd Edition when your DIY chapter could choose a parent legion and get a bonus based on this.
My TearBringers were Salamander geneseed, thus they has -1 initiative but cheaper Terminator/Artificer armour.
Ditch GW rules and do it anyway. The modern game is being taken in a very different direction - if you want narrative rules and customisation options you will need to use 3rd party or house rules. Bit of a bummer if you don't have a regular play group, but if you do the freedom it gives you is amazing.
@@samhunter1205 Absolutetly agree. I stopped following the insane release cycle and constantly changing rules and instead went homebrew coming 10th with some old rules, war gear, rebalanced the units we use and done. As long as those at the table have fun who cares what the 'current' flavour of the month rulebook says.
@@erih2934 absolutely, my group do almost exactly the same thing. It is so liberating to be free of the GW rules churn. I think we all began to dread new.codex day, wondering if our forge world units would even be legal and if our favourite regular units would arbitrarily be consigned to the shelf for an entire edition. That security alone is great, but when you can actually convert your own unique units and agree rules for them it gets really special. I am currently working on a homebrew unique unit of Aspect Warriors while a friend has converted some loyal alpha legion, recently revived from crysosleep straight from the heresy era.
@@samhunter1205 It's not a bad idea tbh
My favoitre Blackshield groups are those astartes who say the Horus heresy, and just broke. Now they are just hanging out in the Periphery, reenacting the Great Crusade in their fiefdom reminding themselves when the galaxy made sense. thanks for the video.
Wait what
I just realised that the Blackshield concept offers an outlet for players with their own take on what happened to surviving members of the 2 lost legions
When I first started 40K (and had no understanding of lore) I wrote up my own homebrew Marine chapter called the Iron Suppressors whose Primarch landed on a dormant tomb world and quickly learned how to engineer and replicate its many weapons. When the Emperor arrived and gave him his legion, they were all equipped with fancy new Necron-based weapons. As I became more well versed in the world of 40K I realized this was impossible to replicate on the tabletop and contradicted numerous lore points so I abandoned it made a new chapter called the Marines Hazardous.
But now, with these new Blackshield rules? The Iron Suppressors are back!
Yep, if I were to play any WH, I think I'd pick up Blackshields. I just love coming up with your own faction. My first thought was Legacy of Nikea + Taint of the Xenos, for a warband that decided that "burn the witch" is dumb, ban on reverse-engineering superior tech is dumb, so the up and left to Start Their Own (tm). No idea how this would play, but I have a sense it wouldbe a very swingy army that either blows the opponent to tiny bits, or blows itself up to tiny bits. So, fun!
"Blackshields" used to confuse me as a term, because the books talk about all these separatist factions & splinter groups, but most of them only refer to Space Marine ones. But then others talk about Blackshield Knight Houses and Titan Legions, so I don't know if it's meant to be a generic term or not. ...so I just refer to any separatist forces in 30k as Blackshields and no-one's corrected me yet!
Blackshields is used for spacemarines, but not very many people are super anal about it.
I love my Blackshields. I'm currently painting up a Legacy of Nikaea/Broken helix force of Tsons who weren't on Prospero but were desperate to fight as loyalists so they started hothousing some recruits to get back into the fight as fast as possible. With my characters in the pre-Magnus colors for my characters and black for my aberrants
This sounds like my sort of faction; so much fun. These rules would really suit those two "Human Renegades" sharing a drink in the Rogue Trader rulebook (page 172). One of the 4 Gamers will probably be very happy to see these rules.
I've been very tempted to run Blackshields with the Pirates and Veterans Oaths and doing them up in Badab Era Astral Claws scheme. Especially with Solar Auxilia/Militia allies for a true Tyrant's Legion style force.
When I first got into 40K always thought this faction was very "edge lord" so it was difficult to understand. Thank you for explaining this faction and how it is blanket to cover all sorts of groups and individuals. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
You could use these rules pretty handily to make those "undead Astartes", reanimated using the Keys of Hel (infamously seen during the Xana Incursion). I'm thinking either The Broken Helix or The Flesh is Weak (to denote their loss of self, reduced to hardy drones), and The Eternal Vendetta or An Eternity of War (to denote that the only thing they remember is how to hate).
Kitbash them with a bunch of zombie/skeleton/cyborg heads, missing or cyberized limbs, pale skin/bone, scratch and nick their armor, and paint them in a variety of legion colors.
I might be wrong, but I think you could take both The Flesh is Weak and Broken Helix.
I wonder if GW is gonna make a legacies blackshields pdf, that includes rules for the old blackshields exclusive units like the nemean reaver or marauders
Pride is our armor + Broken Helix-Aberrants gives you something like Thunder Warriors. That is quite silly.
Seeing as Endryd Haar was one himself, wouldnt be a stretch to have some other “space marines” still kicking around in the heresy
This. THIS! This is frakkin' great! THIS is the 40k I remember. I know I'm not the only one who wanted to use my extra Eldar bits to build out some marines. Or vice versa; malnourished, tweaker marines in Eldar armour with MK 5 and beaky helms, Dark Angel and World Eaters load outs. Brilliant sir! I'm going to watch the Shattered Legion video now.
After getting back into 40k with a couple combat patrols and eeking my way to a 2k Eldar army, I bought a heap of 30k treasures and digging on the narrative vibe of home brew possibilities. Like the board opens with a Cerastus Knight in the middle and proceeds to randomly comes to life and attack units from both sides because Weird-Hammer is what I remember as the most fun. Unbalanced, quirky and partially home-brewed rules were awesome even when you technically lost. Kinda like old school D&D. I never had so much fun repeatedly dying.
Keep up the great content and I'll keep watching. Thank you.
So spoils of victory is the beginnings of the Blood Ravens chapter... they were blackshields of the Thousand Sons :P
Wait a minute that actually makes sense what-
I would love to see a knights errant lore video😊 keep up the amazing videos!
Another army guide. I cant wait, these are my favourites of yours.
Not going to lie, I kinda miss the 1.0 Marauder squads. I get that the options have been spread across multiple Oaths but the idea of a blob squad with a huge array of options would have been nice. Perhaps the omission of this unit is a sign of things to come...
Fingers crossed we get upgrade sets to remake them
This actually looks really fun!
These videos are great, it would be cool to see a similar series for 40k.
Ah, great video! Love all the Ashen Claws images
Now I just have to figure out how to paint them black, but not have them look like raven guard or iron hands lol.
They don't have to be black!
Very very dark grey
Dark grey, similar to Malacdor's agents
Black buff scuffed black, take a sculpting knife and tag em up!
Cool highlights! Black with gold trim and glowing red eyes!
Would love a kill team game in the Horus Heresy
All things considered… these could easily be turned around into a successor Chapter or a warband in 40K.
I love the space pirates oath xD
Now this is what I was waiting for !
Me: "Alright, I've bought all the models I need, I won't-"
Ian: "Here's the rules on how make an army of Blackshield Space Pirate army"
Me "......Let me get my wallet"
Ok this looks fun
I want to model up a Weapons of Desperation Blackshield army so bad, but that's such a massive investment for an army that might not be playable anywhere in as soon as one update away, and that even now can only be fielded in a games system that none of my friends play... Might do it anyway though...
Lost Legions found (and they’re very confused).
Is it Wizard Pirate or Pirate Wizard, asking for a friend.
my take; Pirate Wizard if there are multiple wizards but only one who is also a pirate. - While; Wizard Pirate means a world like; pirates of the Caribbean, where being a pirate was a crucial part of how and why this person is now also a wizard.
But for horus heresy purposes, im not sure...
For my first army, how hard is this? This sounds so dope.
Depends what you mean by "hard"! Rule-wise, most of the Blackshield options are easier than the Legions, but Horus Heresy is a harder game to get into than regular 40k.
If you mean collecting the models, this is probably the easiest HH army to collect since you can grab whatever HH (and even some 40k) space marines you can find and mash them all together.
Painting-wise, you can paint then however you want.
If you're new to wargaming entirely, I'd recommend playing One Page Rules first with your marines (there's a "Civil War Heresy" community army book that has rules for HH minis) before playing HH unless you are very good at absorbing large rulebooks.
Do you think a Legacy of Nikaea/ Pride is our Armor mix would be pretty strong? I know it'd be expensive but the leadership would help with perils of the warp right?
Obviously take the pirate lootin' one and Armoury of Desperation, give all your guys 3D printed flintlock pistols and blunderbusses.
Ok I made this comment before I got to the end of the video and realised you had exactly the same idea.
And somehow the Endryd Haar model is still out of stock.
Can I bring a knight in my army as a blackshield?
Two words; Blackshields Primarus.
Cloned traitor legion marines who become aware of their legion's history lose faith in the Emperor, and under rare circumstances, cope by checking out on the whole serving the Imperium thing...
If you have Haar, could you take Eternal Vendetta (World Eaters), since he hates them? Or is it not possible since he's a World Eater too?
I think he mentioned he has a hatred of World Eaters but it’s separate from the other oaths
Everything is better with pirates.
The Reaver is gone? Boo.
comment for the comment god!
RUclips cares not from whence the comments flow.
Love these rules. I'm going too combine my 'left over' marines with my 1st edition IG models. Let's see what that comes to...