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Guizhong of Chenyu Vale - Her Untold History (Genshin Theory and Speculation)
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Throughout our time in Chenyu Vale, we heard about an unnamed god who was the master of the three adepti of the area. In this video, I talk about why I think this unnamed god could be Guizhong, the God of Dust and why she would do what she did.
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Chapters
0:00 - Guizhong of Chenyu Vale
0:44 - About Guizhong
2:24 - The Three Adepti
4:10 - Hints of the Vale
8:15 - The True Master
13:38 - Ending Notes
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In this video, I had a bit of trouble giving an exact reason as to why Guizhong would betray Morax. However, I discussed this theory more with Ashikai, and she thought that Guizhong could have pulled a similar move to Andrius or Orobashi. She knew Morax was a better candidate for Archon, so she set up her own death as a sacrifice of sorts.
I would think so too! Not to mention Fujin mentioned Gods going mad for power during the Archon war… making me think of corruption from Forbidden Knowledge. Maybe she thought this would be a reasonable end for her so her friends would have at least thought she put up a fight instead of being willfully ended by Morax. Great video btw. I always thought this unknown God would be Orobashi but this makes a whole lot more sense when observing the scenery and books closely.
The vital piece of lore we dont know is why the archon war was fought, my tin foil theory is that a portion of the gods in the archon war had been changed in some way (possession, corruption, forbidden knowledge) so that they were minions for some other entity. Much like xiao was under the control of one of these gods during the war (that zhongli defeated and set him free) In baizhu's story quest when xiao meets chang sheng they BOTH nod in affirmation to each other.
I dont think guizong in her right mind would EVER kill thousands of people with a flood just to get the better of zhongli, so it either wasnt her, or her will wasnt her own.
nice vid. I think Ashikai could learn a thing or two from you. The way you present ur theories is concise, systematic, to the point, not rambling in circles about some random things jumping from one topic to another 🤣.
@@dvl009Yeah Ashikai when she gets excited does tend to jump off to the deep end. Sometimes I have to rewatch parts of her videos repeatedly to get her point on how it all ties together, or even play it at .5x or 0.75x speed xD
@@Necrochaosium Or given the fact that prior the Archon War the Heavenly Principles was almost rendered powerless and had to essentially co-rule with the second throne, I think a part of the reason for the War was to compensate for that. As in what would be more sensible to do before you go into a period of indefinite and inactive rulership - organise a tight system with only a few gods (one per region, to ensure centrality, uniformity and order) or leave hundreds of deities to roam around and do as they please. There would be so many different nations, factions, civilzations of people following their own deity, beliefs and principles.
Not to mention that the funeral ceremony for Morax that Zhongli led us through seems like it was actually designed to say goodbye to an older woman who liked glaze lilies.
Bro attended his own funeral
Why would he do that? It's his own funeral, he did a funeral of his liking
@@victor100judo Why *wouldn't* he do that, since he knew that it wasn't actually his funeral and more of a retirement ceremony that he could make be about whatever he wanted it to be, including the memory of the person who seems to have been a major reason for his decision to become a god of who protected humans in the first place?
If you go to archive the quest is literally named "gueizhongs funeral" or something
@@ziebus904 It's just called "Guizhong," and it's also the quest where we find and repair a Guizhong Ballistas so that Bubu Pharmacy will sell us the only aspect of the ceremony which can't have anything to do with Guizhong (since the incense in question was made by someone else and was a standard, though high end, part of Adepti-worship), and then Guizhong Ballistas are the centerpiece of the battle against Osial.
For those keeping score, the 3 items of the Rite of Parting ceremony performed by Zhongli were a bell created by Guizhong, a perfume that fits the taste of older women and was made of Guizhong's favorite flower, and incense used in Adepti Worship ceremonies, which was received after completing a quest named "Guizhong" which centered on repairing a Guizhong Ballista that was probably made by Guizhong herself and replica Guizhong Ballistas made by copying the newly repaired original Guizhong Ballista were a major part of the climax of the Archon Quest which resulted in Zhongli finalizing his retirement from Archon-hood.
The only reason I could think of Guizhong's betrayal is to push Zhongli to win the archon war in Liyue. It seemed at the start they were only defending against other gods. But maybe Guizhong knew such a tactic would not last long and that of the two of them, only Morax could protect their people to the end.
And interestingly soon after her death, Morax became serious with the war and became decisive in winning it.
The reason why Cloud Retainer and Streetward Rambler weren't able to come immediately might be because she made sure they were far. The two would surely see right through her betrayal and would know she was trying to sacrifice herself.
If Fujin, Herblord, and Lingyuan were her adepti then Guizhong would also know they would be against her plans.
Somehow I'm reminded of Focalors and how she orchestrated her death. Guizhong is wise and love her people, I'm pretty sure everything she does or make always have her people in mind.
Regarding the contracts, I feel the same that Morax started establishing contracts with adepti to prevent betrayals due to Guizhong. In cases of using the people's safety to threaten him like how Guizhong might have done.
Then the chasm people's god. I also shared the same theory. In Stone Tablet Compilation Vol. 1, Guizhong said, "My people left their home and came to this place-" She sounded as if her people had an original place. Then the ancestors of chenyu vale talked about emissaries that might described seelies and Gui is so seelie-coded.
The cleansing bell was focused with Guizhong's death so if she remained inside it, would answer why it can continue to produce melodies for the rite of departing. She's still inside composing melodies.
Anyways I'm obsessed with Guizhong so I really love hearing any lore, takes, theories regarding her. Thank you for your videos, it made me see other things i might miss.
Edit: I wrote it just before this quote was mentioned in the video.
(In every area where multiple gods were coexisting some drama happened one way or another. It really seems as though Celestia, "fate" or something else only wanted 1 winner god per region.)
Fujin, Herblord and Lingyuan's story will result in massive timeline problem if Guizhong was truly the Chenyu God.
Based on Mao's recount (from Lingyuan's side) Chenyu God should be alive when the clash between Chenyu Warriors and Millelith happened during the Archon war. The god went mad and trying to wiped off Morax and the Millelith whose stationed around Bishui River.
Millelith was formed only after Zhongli established Liyue harbor, and gave them Lithic weaponry. Guizhong already perished by that time.
Echoes of Artifact lore highlighted Fujin's wish to visit Guili Plains and Liyue Harbor, the adepti of Jueyun prepared a teapot to aid her journey. looks like they made the plan before Chenyu disaster happened (aka b4 the God went mad) and she "perished" as a result of the disaster.
the interesting part, the friendship between the adepti didn't really affected by the Gods they worship (Zhongli is the leader of Jueyun Adepti including Cloud Retainer, While Fujin followed Chenyu God). They literally keep each other's business and rituals separated in their own area. this is maybe the reason why Zhongli left the area alone for a very long time after the god was described to die in a foreign land.
The betrayal, Guizhong's moon motifs actually still perfectly working without connecting her to Chenyu Vale. From the Lantern Rite story it is pretty clear that her bond with Jueyun gang is stronger, and we don't know from where OR why she brought her people to live side by side with Zhongli's people and building a new city called guili assembly.
one weird thing i noticed in chenyus vale main quest, is that when we were near the carp and snake murral, we had to hit a big vase to progress in the story. the thing is once we did it gave us both cor lapis and noctilucous jades. this area doesnt have those minerals anywhere + if cor lapis literally represents morax then noctilucous jade has to represent guizhong. not just by the color palette but also the fact they are found in the chasm too. if this wasnt part of the quest i wouldnt really be looking into it but, considering everything youve just said it does make some sense.
guizhong to morax: nah id win
Oohhh, Noctilucous Jade being associated with Guizhong is a really cool theory.
GuiZhong was turned to stone, guess who else can crystalise enemies with his burst?
There’s a few things that I noticed that would definitely support your theory.
Firstly, the Simulacrum in Chenyu Vale, the definition of a Simulacrum is the depiction/representation of someone/something else. In Liyue, we see many Statues that are meant to be depictions of their god, Morax. So the Simulacrum in Chenyu Vale are very likely the same, and the depict an owl which should relate to their Gods appearance in some manner.
Owls are wise, and one of Guizhong’s 4 Commandments are “teach with wisdom”. (Which interesting enough may indicate that Guizhong’s alternate form is that of an Owl.)
The main difference between these Simulacrums and Morax Statues is that … Simulacrums are much more mechanical, and if they’re meant to depict Guizhong, whose mechanically genius even surpasses the Adepti Inventress Cloud Retainer, then … this would also make sense. (And also indicates that Guizhong is very likely the one who made the Simulacrum.)
Now, as a God of Dust, her ideal is that of Dust … and I was just wondering … what would an ideal of Dust even be??? So I looked into it and … a main symbolism of Dust is Gods Creation of Mankind … and Guizhong is a genius creator.
A little fun fact that may relate to the Herblord: I came across the name Fuxi in one of the stone tablets in Chenyu Vale, a quick look into the name showed me … (long explanation short) a Chinese Sovereign Deity name Yuxi, who was born with a serpent body. So, now I am wondering if Yuxi was Changsheng’s original name. Plus, in the stone tablet, it said the Yuxi wouldn’t be able to go back to her friends, which could connect to the Herblords defeat by their master.
Edit: I decided to look into Chinese symbolism of Owls and found out that since Owls go “Hu” which means “to dig” in Chinese, that people relate Owls to death … and Zhongli is working as a consultant for a FUNERAL PARLOR under HU TAO, and since HU comes first, Hu Tao’s family is the HU FAMILY. (With this being said, the Chinese characters for Hu in the Hu Family and Hu in “to dig” are different.)
Additional Edit: I should also mention that Owls symbolize many other things, such as a god of war, or a god of lightning/thunder. Mystery, mysticism, secrets, and intelligence. They are called Mao-tou-ying (cat headed hawk) and Xiao (bravery).
Imo God of Dust is actually the name based on her origin/power, not necessarily divine ideals. Zhongli is Deus Auri because he can transmute gold, while we also have Havria as God of Salt.
@@sinclairlovlia4935 oh, that … might actually be true. This actually raises a lot of questions about all of the other gods. The main question being, do all gods pursue an ideal? Is an ideal something a god naturally has, or something a few gods just pick up along the way?
@@TinkRomero
Yep, we definitely need more info about that.
so far the God who had the "divine ideal" happened to be the Archons, and somehow the ideal were also inherited by their successors with varying degree (Makoto-Ei eternity, Egeria-Focalors justice, Rukkha-Nahida Wisdom).
We have multiple title for Gods, so we still have a hope to see Guizhong's other title 😊
@@Aferaline this actually opens up the very absurd possibility that the Tsaritsa is the God of Thieves that we’ve heard about so long ago.
And it doesn’t help with the fact that she’s currently stealing the Gnoses from the other Archons. XD
Not gonna lie I was pulled in genshin because of guizhong and zhongli story (I also love other characters/npc stories too) so when chenyu vale came out I was so hype because it's another liyue land so I was hoping for another guizhong crumbs😭 and though I (kinda) got some (because it's not confirmed yet) but it did help me got rid of my genshin burnout 😂👍
The Blackcliff forge will hopefully have more Guizhong lore
Wow, this is really interesting. I never made the connection between Cuijue Slope and Chenyu Vale before, but come to think of it, Cuijue Slope pretty much just means half-circle jade ring slope. Also, if I remember correctly, you find a jade ring in there once you unlock the pillars. Feels like too much symbolism to not have a connection!
I wanna know she’s so important to the game; every year, she is brought up during lantern rite, and in classic storytelling, the writer wouldn’t keep bringing up something if it weren’t important
Yeah Guizhong is key to the events of the archon war, like menogias attacking bonanus. Likely we'll get more archon war lore next year same time.
I was totally offboard with the narrative that “guizhong flooded the bishui river and tried to go against Morax” but somehow this video has convinced me a little. Maybe there is something to it, but i still cannot begin to fathom why she would go against her people(and apparentices) to become an archon/or just to survive. Why murder the people(guizhong loves humans btw) that respected you and were probably the reason you were considered a leader in the first place?
It might be just me but i personally just cannot see guizhong having the heart to do any of this. Still a good video nonetheless, the wait was worth it
also yaodie valley having plenty of glaze lilies pretty much backs this theory. plus there is also the calamity queller and an engraved stone found inside a cave with a bunch of glaze lilies.
the mechanical dolls and the tea table with a cat in the TeaTree Slope also makes this theory strong.
This all makes guizhong SO much more interesting! I wonder, if she's maybe still alive in some form, what if some malicious forces try wake her from her slumber?? Maybe that could lead to a potential madame ping playable..?!??
Oh yeah, you got a good point . Since madam ping is close friend to Guizhong. I cant wait next year lantern rite.
I mean, the pjc sword does talk about a sad, pseudo betrayal in its description along with the sword itself being a metaphor for Zhongli's unspoken feelings for Guizhong. it was supposed to be a gift for her, but due to the archon war being a sad set of circumstances, he had to use those feelings (the sword) he never managed to give her against her to set her plan in motion.
damn that's tragic.
4:24 It wouldn’t make sense for Guizhong to do something so bold and aggressive. After all, her closest friends are in Guili Assembly, the place that she herself co-rules. The whole idea of the pledge to Morax was because of humanity
12:15 Considering gods do not die completely, and their lingering resentment and energy still remain, I cannot see why this isn’t a possibility. But my only question is how on earth would her spirit be able to enter the glaze lily in the first place?
12:39 Other than the fact that both Glaze Lilies and Glaze Peak have the same chinese words for glaze (琉璃), another thing that struck me as interesting was that Cor Lapis and Qingxin Flowers could be found at Glaze Peak as well, which symbolises both Morax and the Adepti
Iirc Glaze peak in the chasm is the main source of Glazed Sand Crystal used as a material for urns and liyue's signature pottery product.
When I play the world quest of guili plain, the end of guili assembly was "when the black dust choked the sky and thousands rock splintered". It can intepreted as guizhong's passing left morax heartbroken. Or those two having a fight, guizhong lost, but morax wasn't happy with the result either.
If zhongli and guizhong did fight and resulted in guili assembly collapse (and possibly betrayal from guizhong's end), why zhongli doesn't hate her? Why do her adepti friends still as heartbroken as zhongli is?
There is a voiceline from xianyun that said guizhong was a genius. Genius in a way she has a baffling thought process yet still make sense. This girl is amusing character honestly. I can't wait the archon war lore gets revealed more
Plus I have read something interesting about incense usage in china. In some religion, incense is used to communicate with the god. And some god have their particular fragrance. If you remember the liyue archon quest, zhongli put wild glaze lilly into the incense burner (and pestering us to get the wild one too, he doesn't want the gardened glaze lilly). Did Zhongli try to communicate with guizhong through the incense? If he's truly communicate with her then I understand why zhongli somehow 'shoo us' from himself if we hadn't talk with all of the people in the rite of parting
OMG! I'm obsessed with Guizhong and Zhongli lore. No matter what others say, I believe they are lovers or in some kind of special to one another. And Zhongli's contract with Tsaritsa is something related to Guizhong.
8:15 that would overlap with Havria (both stricken with paranoia, in this case), so while one can argue parallels, this time it feels kinda too close to be repeated right next door.
because yeah, same region.
unless Guizhong got corrupted by abyssal power, or some kind. Maybe the darkness take over her (in short: the same way it entered our mind right after Rosalyne's death. We absorbed her darkness, after that fight.)
Havria hid away during the Archon War, her own people killed her out of mercy.
@@SiliconOneFour I gave this another thought after making that comment.
can only think that, if this is true, then either Guizhong was stricken with paranoia (which, as I said, it strikes too close to Havria for me. Havria was killed bcs her paranoia made her closed off her people from the surface),
or Guizhong was pretending to have lost her mind, to force Zhongli's hand on her -> force him to continue the archon war and took the seat of archonhood.
@@reveriesend4668 in order to made the timeline aligned, guizhong must be spared from the destruction of Guili Assembly and returned to lead Chenyu. God of Chenyu and her warriors fought Millelith + Morax before she did the flooding, fought Herblord then somehow she died in foreign land (sacrificial jade)
So the super ultra delirious copium reason of the paranoia maybe .: she did deceive everyone from beginning and went mad out of guilt.
She deceived Morax, pretended to be a weak God to create a "new city" together for whatever reason (free protection from one of the strongest God in Area?). It is weird because why totally separate Chenyu from Guili Assembly? Why bother creating 4 commandments to Guili and put her hearts to taught them to farm and even claimed "her people are content and feel homey in this new land" (North of Mt. Tianheng). Did she brought outcasts of chenyu or something? And did two timing ruling of both area 😂. What is the meaning of Chenyu for her when she raised "another kid" in other place?
Zhongli didn't touch the land at all after the flood and let the people of chenyu deteriorated until the later part of war (yet somehow still praising their tenacity to survive in Jadefall Splendor. Weird). He only protect the people from Guili Plains and the refugees in his newly built Liyue Harbor.
Hmm… I don’t think Guizhong would have gone against Zhongli…
And I think Zhongli would have though Guizhong to be a better leader than him in terms of knowing what’s best for humans…🤔
Xiao also seems to not have any issues stating How Cloud retainer was quiet after Guizhong’s death… he would have been someone to have had issues with friends perishing considering the 2.7 quest…🤔
Thing is Guizhong is not Xiao friends. Heck they used to be enemies even, given how Xiao used to be an evil lesser god that eats people good dreams instead.
@cker The Yaksha were sealing Guizhong in the cutscene of Cloud Retainer, Streetward Rambler and Guizhong. So by that time they definitely could've been on friendly terms.
@@shycracker Guizhong was on friendly terms with all the Yakshas. Reading Cloud Retainer's story or even doing the Lantern Rite it showed that Indarius and Bonanus would frequently hangout with the other ladies of the Guili Assembly like Guizhong, Cloud Retainer, Madam Ping, and any of the other lady adeptus in attendance.
@@shycrackerBut Guizhong (and Zhongli) ruled over Guili Assembly, which includes the other Adepti, plus has been seen to be spending time with them like Indarias and Bonanus, the Pyro and Hydro Yakshas
10:43 Her hairpiece resembles the snake symbol on Baizhu namecard. As we know, Baizhu is connected to Changseng (Herblord) and both of them are Chenyu Vale residents
Since she liked to fiddle around with Khaenriah baubles, maybe she was driven mad or paranoid by some device? I DO believe she fits the bill as the master of Chenyu Vale that went mad, but I just don't understand her motives yet. One century she was friendly with Morax and the other adepti, the next she was willing to kill her own people by flood, to get the upper hand over Morax? Doesn't make sense.
Or perhaps, she too, just like Orobashi received an offer from The Heavenly Principles that she couldn't refuse. "Either you go impale yourself on the nearest spear willingly, or you get to watch the people you have cared for die. Now choose!"
I think one of the NPCs said the victors of the Archon War were decided by Celestia even before the war began, making it a needless, senseless killing spree?
But why she made alliance with Morax when she already has Chenyu to protect? 😟.
Guili Assembly was a city protected by 2 Gods, what is the meaning for Chenyu when their God was busy building another city, and when the said God perished the other God (Morax) didn't even try to support Chenyu at all and raising another city as his golden child.
Morax influence canonically entered Chenyu Vale much later, after the God died in foreign land. Somehow the clashes in that time were between Chenyu Warrior vs Millelith from Liyue Harbor under Morax's command.
It is hard to point the Motive when the backstory is pretty messed up 😂. Because the timing of the flood in theory also didn't match with Fujin's personal story.
(she lost her form around the same time as the flood, yet she made plan to visit "Liyue Harbor" with the help of the adepti, something that impossible to exist before the flood and Guizhong's death if she truly the God of Chenyu Vale)
The story of Jade Cutter kind of implies that Morax killed a friend for whom it was intended with that very sword, because Archon war caused former friends to become enemies, at leasts that's how I've always read it. It fits with the idea that Guizhong went against Morax, and glaze lilies arguement is strong.
Still, the god of chenyu vale was at war with Morax, she tried to flood the valley to drown his Millelith stationed downriver, and if Morax lead an army to Chenyu vale, it makes no sense for Cloudretainer to be unaware of him killing Guizhong. I also very much don't like the idea of Guizhong trying to sacrifice her own people, though it was decribed as an act of madness.
In the quest with Soraya and the stone tablets there was this quote "...and there they fought upon the Guili Plains, where black dust choked the heavens and a thousand rocks splintered..." Perhaps black dust meant that Guizhong was already corrupted by that time.
Millelith as an official organization was formed after the establishment of Liyue Harbor.
Whoever God trying to drown the Millelith at that time, she is Fujin's master (who still living after the destruction of Guili Assembly and became mad because one of the powerhouse in the area now officially joins the fray and campaigning in her area)
I clicked this video because I was curious as to why Guizhong's presence seems hinted at in these new areas. I'd noticed the abundance of glaze lilies in the new regions, as well as all the mechanical creations and the similar teapot realm. In particular, glaze lilies in the wild are quite rare, and I feel I've seen more in Chenyu Vale than in the rest of Liyue's wilderness. That strikes me as very odd. So, first a compliment: I think that you made a lot of interesting observations in this video. I hadn't noticed a lot of the design similarities in the architecture and appreciated you pointing them out.
However, there are some serious plot holes in this theory:
1) How does Guizhong lead two totally separate groups of people simultaneously? According to this theory, she'd be the god of Chenyu Vale and the (co-)god of Guili Plains at the same time. The idea of Guizhong having essentially a secret second family just makes zero sense to me.
2) Why would Guizhong fight Morax? It seems obvious that she would lose, for one thing. But it also goes against all the lore we have of her as a clever alliance-maker.
3) Why would Guizhong put her own people in harm's way or sacrifice them? This seems completely out of character.
I suppose 2 & 3 could potentially be explained by Guizhong being corrupted by something. It's virtually impossible to imagine her acting that way unless she had totally lost her mind / ethics or was forced. This option is technically possible until Mihoyo gives us a lot more details about her death... but I'm skeptical. The way Zhongli and the other adepti speak about Guizhong doesn't suggest betrayal, or a god who would sacrifice her own people.
Also, that still leaves the first issue I raised. The idea that Guizhong would have two separate groups of followers just seems completely illogical and at odds with all the other god lore we have. The only explanation I can come up with is that the two groups did not exist at the same time. Maybe she first led people in Chenyu Vale, and only after her failed battle against Morax did she make an alliance and go to Guili plains? I feel like the timeline on this doesn't make a lot of sense, though (and did she just leave half her people in Chenyu? seems unlikely). That said, the Archon War timeline is extremely unclear so I suppose it's possible.
Ultimately, I'm not convinced that Guizhong could be the original god of Chenyu Vale because this god's story differs so radically from almost everything we've learned about Guizhong. However, there are enough design similarities and hints here (plus my meta knowledge that Mihoyo loves a wild twist that no one expected), that I can't totally dismiss the possibility. There are still too many mysteries about this era to make many definitive statements.
Imo, the timeline was in different phase of Archon War. Fujin befriended Cloud Retainer before the war where she can swam freely braving the waterfall of mt. Aocang. The plan to invite Jueyun Adepti to tea party with herblord also seems like from before Archon war era.
Based on the chalice of the Font, the adepti also wishes for her to visit Guili Plains and Liyue harbor (yeah, the harbor also mentioned in world quest, which means their friendship survives after Guizhong's death, and nothing happened in Chenyu yet)
Archon War ~Liyue Edition~ escalated and reaches the peak after Guizhong's death, which implies that Guili managed to hold the fort for a while before got dragged and annihilated in the war.
Considering that Zhongli became more active in the war after he built Liyue Harbor in order to protect it and established formal contract with the adepti (stationing Millelith in Bishui Rivers area and occasionally clashed with Chenyu Warriors), it is logical for the other Gods in Liyue to be wary of him.. and Chenyu Vale's God went mad will be aligned with this timeline.
We definitely need more detailed timeline for this tho.
Imagine hoyo decided to revive guizhong and became a playable character. Damn i love her design so much
there are several glaring plothole(?) and question with this theory :
1. Sacrifical jade lore literally mentioned that God of Chenyu Vale died in Foreign Land. Guizhong+Morax alliance will automatically make both Chenyu Vale and Guili their territory. and Guizhong died in Liyue area.
2. Why Zhongli let Chenyu Vale "rot" when he evacuated his people from flooded Guili Plains? Guizhong's people should become his, too. especially when it is explained in the Stone tablet compilation that Guizhong brought her people to the Guili Plains. Why the need to "evacuate" And build new city in Guili when Chenyu is pretty much fine with Herblord and Fujin's hard work?
3. Zhongli didn't immediately assume the guardianship of Chenyu Vale until the people scattered everywhere. he put all of his resources into guarding Liyue Harbor. his contract is to protect Liyue Harbor. Why did he ignore Chenyu Vale when it potentially became part of his land when Guizhong died? they are former allies.
4. If Guizhong is Chenyu's adepti's master, why didn't she ask Zhongli to illuminate Fujin and Herblord? Zhongli is not really stingy with knowledge and The Mighty and Illuminated Adepti of Jueyun are stronger than Fujin (based on her remark about true adepti).
5. Why did Guizhong stay and put her strength into raising her people in Guili Plains and merge with Zhongli's (who definitely lived around mt.Tianheng with his people and taught adepti at Jueyun Karst). is there any need to separate chenyu people from her people in Guili? both civilizations are running simultaneously based on Fujin's story of befriending Cloud Retainer (before Archon War).
god i love ur voice sm its so comfortingg
YESSIR I've been waiting for more Guizhong lore
Maybe she got corrupted in the archon war which is why she attacked Morax and tried to hurt her people, though she knew she couldn't defeat him so tried to set herself up to die. Or she made herself appear evil just so Zhongli had it in him to kill her and take the spot of archon.
Great video! :D Guizhong is such a complex and interesting character who deserves much more attention. This really gives me hope that she'll be playable one day. She has one of the best designs I've seen so far in this game ^^
What element would you want her to be?
@@suava375 Ooh, that's a pretty tough question. Thanks to her space-themed outfit, I think they might go for hydro. But at the same time, for the Goddess of Dust, geo would make more sense (?) It wouldn't surprise me that if we got her back, she'd be in a weakened state, or maybe even turned into a mortal, especially considering she doesn't have a physical form at the moment (if she's still around in a way). So she might get a vision one day, which would explain her being hydro. At least we can assume she's a sword user. I think she's too important not to be relevant later on. Thanks for the question! :)
@@rainy2night nice! I was thinking Hydro or Geo too! Though I wonder if Hoyo will try to introduce a new element at some point to spice things up like Dendro 🤔
@@suava375 Yeah, I don't see why they wouldn't! Hoyo's gonna have to do something about Dainsleif, after all. It would be cool to see Guizhong with a new element too! I'm just glad we're still getting a few breadcrumbs of lore about her. It means they haven't forgotten about her, and she's important.
I was thinking of the same thing! My hunch was WHAT IF guizhong's primordial spirit was actually a Glaze Lily and the Cryo Archon has collected majority of her Primordial Spirit that lead to Zhongli having a contract with her.
In majority of XienXia series, Cryo has a purifying features which makes sense that Guizhong could have been infected of whatever there is during the archonwar.
In addition, knowing the Primordial Spirit of a god can also lead to knowing their fate, for example being a "flower" they are meant to bloom and die and return to the samsara and can be reborn again like a usual plant but would yake some time before samsara becomes full cycle. And that I believe what makes Morax long for that fated reunion. I hope Guizhong would still be as charming as Xianyun's narrative in their reunion.
As much as I find interesting that Guizhong is still alive but in a weakened form similar to Fujin, I dont know if id like for us to bring her back somehow, Zhongli is who he is today because of the death of Guizhong, if she comes back to life, the changes that her death caused on him will be meaningless, plus it would mean dead characters are always bound to come back when the writers want them to
I agree, let the ancient being rest. She’s already done a lot for liyue harbor
@@noyhyon I mean the only way I see being done right is if they did the same way they did with Makoto, she doesn't really come back, she's able to speak with someone to pass on a message (in this case probably to the adepti and zhongli) and then she really fades away for good, no resurrection or reincarnation involved
I buy your theory, but it seriously breaks my heart.
If she is alive I hope she'll be released in next Lantern Rite patch...
This might be odd but I gotta listen to these while getting ready for day. It’s like hearing a folk tale of a real place
Very interesting theory. But, if Guizhong was really the original God of Chenyu Vale, I don't think Guizhong was ruled over the Chasm before. Because Fujin and the gang are natives of Chenyu Vale, so their master too. They lived in Chenyu Vale for thousand of years until humans came and resided in Qiaoying Village, thus they were fond of humanity and started to make relationships with humans.
In comparison, I also watched a theory about Fujin's master is could be Orobashi. We can read in Genshin's wiki that Orobashi could not defeat Deus Auri or the golden god and fled from Teyvat. And Deus Auri is another Zhongli name that was confirmed in Neuvillette's voice line about the Geo Archon. As a huge snake, flooding the Bushui River would make it easier for Orobashi to swim to Guili Plains and attack Zhongli and his people.
But it was said that the god is female, which Orobashi is not. And the Herblord and Fujin were the ones who killed the god, which would also make no sense considering the one who killed Orobashi was Raiden Ei
Archon War = Hunger Games need i say more? Lol also poor Guizhong 😢 However i wont deny contract or not that Guili were close which makes it all more tragic.
Also i thinkshe had gone through the fight or flight reseponse which is why she turned onnhim not out of malice but even he could see that and her dieing breath of forget the cleansing bell she knew this would not make things right between them but just as that its like a contract with making friends but a far more special bond that he learned due to her and her innocence
The theory is good but severely implied that Guizhong literally abandoned Chenyu Vale when she brought her people to create Guili Assembly (which is not matched with her personality) and left the area Godless when the war happened. Her 4 commandments are for Guili, her research was kept in Sea of Clouds, her best friends are Jueyun Adepti, while Chenyu lost everything.
Both Guizhong + Morax were ally at that time but if the Chenyu Adepti are her servants, there will be no reason for adeptal art imbalance with Jueyun Adepti because Morax will also take Fujin and Herblord as his disciple (Fujin didn't seem to use sigil. The adeptal power was stored in simulacras, and she is not privy to subspace creation).
Guizhong also the social type and often invites adepti to the gathering, but no Chenyu Adepti mentioned, Fujin IS a good friend of Cloud Retainer and Mt. Shaper, which made it weirder. Fujin never able went to Guili Plains and Liyue Harbor (harbor was built after Guizhong's death) even though the teapot to carry her is ready.
And the last thing is..
Zhongli and Jueyun Adepti evacuated guili people real quick after the flood (yes, Guizhong's people too) and built Liyue Harbor, while his influence entered Chenyu Vale much later in the war when the Chenyu people reduced to little tribes and Fujin went MIA 😢. Why the blatant discrimination when Guizhong still counted as his and Jueyun adepti's friend even after her death. (For reference, He left whatever happened at Sal Terrae alone because he has no connection to Havria but still accepted her people regardless).
Guizhong as the God of Chenyu Vale also defeated the purpose of creating Guili Assembly as a CITY because Chenyu was not under any threat before archon war and could sustain on their own with the God and her adepti follower.
Stone tablet compilation recorded that Guizhong brought her people to the north of Mt. Tianheng and they are content in their new home. Why left Chenyu(?). Why Guizhong wishes for a new city?
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One interesting thing i find about Guizhong is despite being a god of dust, which should’ve themed more to either earth or wind, Guizhong’s colorscheme and things related to her, like glaze lily, seems to be themed to moon. I think someone made a video about Guizhong’s possible connection to moon or seelie? (I think it was Ashikai?). While to moons supposedly had died, and we dont know when Guizhong was born, i wonder if she was born from the remains of the moon sisters (I think there’s a greek god born from remains of old gods, she’s probably just like that). Maybe the dusts she was god of was actually the dust of the moon instead of earth. Not trying to ship here, but if she’s really related to moon, it made her dynamic with zhongli far more interesting. Zhongli was theorized to be connected with sun, so they are like earth/sun-moon, rock-dust, which basically both being companions and antithesis of each other. I wonder if Zhongli met Guizhong because he followed the traces of the fallen moon sisters, which he witnessed when he was young and found Guizhong.
Nice I just got back from uni and now I can see your video while I have my burger
Hmmm about the connection between the flooding of bishui river ang guili plains. Fujin used the rain jade to block the bishui river to save the chenyu vale. And if we consider bishui river to be uptream of the river in guili plains, then the flood in the guili plains should have been prevented by fujin's actions. Correct me if im wrong tho
I think it may have been partially prevented. It wasn't as bad as it could have been, but some flooding still happened.
This theory makes Guizhong ten times more interesting.
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Bishui is pronounced more like bee-shway than bih-shooey. Cuejie is closer to kyoh-jyeh or syeh-jyeh (dialect dependent) than swee-jay. Aocang was pronounced pretty well imo.
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Guizong was a better inventor than Cloud Retainer and I think it would be great to see how it affects Cloud Retainer to this day, knowing that the reason she's the best inventor is only because her friend died.
Guizhong's remain was sealed by the adeptus and zhongli into a icosahedral seal. And guizhong's remain is petrified. I wonder who's particular meteor it is capable of petrifying its target
thing is, WHEN and WHERE was the timing of her death?
books, Soraya's research, and adepti reminiscing pointed the she died when the Guili Assembly is destroyed +/- 3.700 years ago. Morax took their people to build a harbor city soon after.
Chenyu Vale's God trying to flood the Bishui River to sweep Morax and his Millelith (of Liyue Harbor) stationed in the area. The God fought Herblord and the snake managed to repel her own Goddess to the point that the God died in a Foreign Land (meaning she choose to FLEE the area and died in another place). Guili Plains and the nearest area are officially Morax and Guizhong's turf (including Cuijue Slope). why the foreign land? why Chenyu is not part of Guili?
why would Guizhong flood the Guili Assembly? 😭
The Archon War made many gods do crazy things, it could have driven her mad too.
@@SiliconOneFourMakes me sad to think that the archon war corrupted so many gods that they'd destroy everything they worked on to create. I totally vibe with your theory, but I wonder why the game didn't want to tell us who this god was... hmmm
Thing is.. Fujin, Herblord, and Lingyuan supposed to be severely wounded and went MIA around the time they betrayed Chenyu God in the disaster of flooded Bishui River? (their precesence was limited after they guided Chenyu's people to safety in the caves).
How can Ping and Cloud Retainer made promise to help Fujin to visit Guili Plains and Liyue Harbor by carrying her inside a teapot? Fujin mentioned the Harbor (jueyun gang told her about their new city) in world quest, meaning that she still serving her God in Chenyu after Guizhong's demise and Zhongli built the harbor. Echoes of an offering implied that she already befriended jueyun adepti before the disaster of archon war.
If Chenyu people were truly Guizhong's people, the area will be under Rex Lapis' dominion by default and he is free to rule the land as soon as Guizhong's death because why the need to keep Chenyu people separated from Guili?, but he literally left the place alone for a very long time to the point that people under Fujin's protection are scattered and reduced to little tribes, and they never sought Rex Lapis' help like what happened in Havria's incident.
Instead Zhongli focused on protecting the harbor (which also consist of Guizhong people in the guili era). Why he discriminate and not paying attention to Chenyu people and trio Adepti when they are Guizhong's people?
Cloud retainer also has a set of jade that the crystal jade in chenyu down tward the rivier banks where its mossy green ive already gotten xainyun up to lvl 80 but i wish just like cloud retainer said that guishaong were still here
Guizhong morax and cloud retainer and guoba are good friends also fujin is also friends with linguang
I always had a feeling she might be in the bell, but I don't think any former god/archon will be resurrected till the fall of celestia
I dont know if it was you, but I noticed someone pointing out in a video that the seelies in Chasm are kinda similliar to Guizhongs desing, so this detail maybe also ties to her seelie theory or the connection between her people and the Chasm. :)
this is a pretty good theory!
Another problem to add to the timeline. Alatus was there during the scene depicting sealing of Guizhong. But Xiao is not old enough to have been there when Guizhong was killed. His character stories say his age is 2000+ while Ganyu is older than him at 3000+ and the Yaksha (the collective group depicted) were put together to clean up all of the fallout and perform cleansing of the grudges etc of the post Archon War.
It wasn't a character story we got Xiao's age from, it was a dev interview, and all they said was he was over 2000 years old. You can simultaneously be over 2000 and over 3000 at the same time. We were operating on wrong information, Xiao is at least 3700 years old because he was present for Guizhong's death. His age is nebulous, but we know he witnessed Guizhong die for a fact because we literally saw it happen.
@@bookswithike3256 His age appears on him: Character Details
Xiao may have the appearance of a young man, but his true age is something over two thousand years.
Chronologically, his presence at Guizhong's death cannot be possible. Since Xiao entered Rex Lapis's service when he was rescued during the AW and Guizhong died very early into it. Not just the dev interview. There was also a discussion about the terms Ganyu uses to address Xiao and how she speaks to him respectfully but he is not older than she is.
So the chronology is a lot more confusing than it should be and there are things that don't reconcile so good.
@@KoalaNoMarch "something over two thousand years."
3700 is over 2000.
@@bookswithike3256And yet the inference is that Ganyu is older and the Archon war ended close to 2600 years ago. The timeline. does. not. compute. "Alatas" was not there at the beginning of Rex Lapis's rule, working for rex lapis. He belonged to a different God, he was not a Yaksha.
Rex Lapis didn't even contract the Adepti/xian into helping him until 3700 years ago, which would be when Liyue Harbour was built. Well after Guili and Guizhong were gone.
Just about the only idea I could come up with that might support your position is that Alatus is old, but secret identity Xaio is younger, and people who knew him pretended his old identity was dead.
But, still there would be no Yaksha until close to the end of the war.
@@KoalaNoMarchThe Archon War ended 2000 years ago, not 2600
WAIT what cave that who killed who in? Where? How do you know that. How did I miss such a thing? I've never come across a cave that Bonanus killed Menogias in.
It's located in southern Yaodie Valley; the entrance is guarded by a few hilichurls
@@SiliconOneFour I must of been in there already but missed that lore. Or some how missed this cave. Thx for the response.
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I'm still curious about that woman in indigo billowing sleeves in the Bishui River area...
But, didn't Fujin and the Herblord fight against that god they considered evil?
They did yes, but both Fujin and the Herblord lost that battle. It's quite possible that the god survived and went to fight Morax.
I love spoilers so thanks a lot.
Dude, we know Guizhong's ppl lived in the Guili plains. Also i thing that pool with the salt steps and the ruined palace below the water is her abode
Some correction if i may add. I don't think she could collect ruin machines from khaenriah because by that time she supposed to be dead unless they were also sent out before cataclysm
Khaenri'ah was already established underground during the Archon war (the notes left by the Sal Vindagnyr people in Dragonspine indicated that much).
So there can be field tillers/ old ruin machines at that time.
Total speculation and not based on evidence: what if she was the original goddess, either surrendered or was defeated by morax, and signed a contract that she would give up her role as goddess of chenyu vale and co signed to being forgotten and becoming the goddess of dust as penance? There’s a lot of contraptions that remind me of gueizhong as another tinkerer like cloud retainer. I think her death was brought about by the erosion morax talks about and is troubled by.
Memory of Dust clearly stated that there is no formal contract between Guizhong & Zhongli. Guizhong approached him and they agree to made alliance. Guizhong brought her people to build a new city together with Zhongli in Guili Plains. At this time. Fujin should already served the Chenyu God, and there is no threat for Chenyu before archon war while Guizhong seems like she brought refugees from somewhere and choose to work with another (stronger) god.
Fujin is actually the crucial point to the plot. Her friendship with Jueyun Adepti is not related at all to the Gods they worship. Guizhong is the visionary type of person, she will definitely seek to improve the power of her servants.
If Fujin & Herblord are her servants she will definitely allow them to take the trial of Heaven and Earth, a SYSTEM of reaching the path of adepti established by the Jueyun group. Cloud Retainer readily provide her floating abode as a testing ground when Zhongli gave his consent (his Taishan Mansion was the place for earth trial). GUIZHONG & Ping happily supporting this decision. as the God of Chenyu, why she meddling around with Jueyun Adepti cultivation system but not giving Chenyu the same chance?. There was a power and knowledge difference between both (acknowledged by Fujin herself)
Fujin IS a good friend of Cloud Retainer to the point of her wish to invite CR & MS to her tea party and Ping even gifted her a teapot to help the travelling plan to Guili Plains AND Liyue Harbor (yes, harbor). This friendship started b4 the war (Guizhong lived in Guili) and abruptly cut sometimes after the establishment of Liyue Harbor (AFTER Guizhong's death). So based on Fujin's story (and the most logical reason why Cloud Retainer invited her to the harbor), the Chenyu Flood was not happening until Zhongli built the harbor and stationing millelith around Bishui River.
Goddess of Chenyu Vale died in another land, Guizhong died in Liyue area. Why Guili Plains area (and Cuijue Slope nearby) counted as another land when it should be their territory?
So She will be the next Limited 5 star for the next Lantern Rite when Blackcliff releases below Liyue?
It's possible, but I think Madame Ping may be playable first.
@@SiliconOneFour I hope not, she looks terrible in her old form and her former look was mid at best.
I hope she'll be playable character😁😁
Hello can u make a deep analysis about qiqi. And what kind of value does qiqi holds in genshin lore.
I do want to do character analysis videos at some point, so yeah!
Qiqi’s existence as a whole proves that resurrection exists in Genshin
I thought the white snake Baizu has was the "evil" god from Chenyu. Or maybe I confuse this and the snake was one of the adepti from Chenyu.
Changsheng is one of the adepti, not the master
So the Chenyu Vale god, which is also Guizhong in your theory. Was ruling Chenyu, but also spending her time ruling Guili and hanging out with Rex Lapis' Adepti instead of her own adepti, then she's desperate to win the war (according to Fujin) and returned back to Chenyu to flood the river, after that she came back down to Guili to be killed by Morax?
what a busy god.
She enlisted another god to protect her people because she's aware of the gulf in their power... but at the same time, she multi-tasked ruling 2 areas? Why not she asked her trio adepti to help with Guili? If she could freely hang out with the Jueyun Karst adepti, then why did Fujin need a teapot given by Ping to visit them? Why not Guizhong just take the carp with her?
You're desperate to make relevant, you destroy her character and lore. You need to accept that none of Xianyun's character nor the new area mention anything significant of her.
Yeah, the inconsistency with the timeline and the basic reason of the establishment of Guili Assembly is the biggest plothole in this theory.
The discrimination is pretty bad for Chenyu Adepti because even though Guizhong made alliance with Rex Lapis, Fujin and Herblord was never get illumination and learn Sub Space creation like the Jueyun gang 😢. And Fujin is actually friend with the Jueyun Gang... Why the different treatment?
@@Aferaline so far it is hinted that only those who were illuminated by Zhongli can create the sub-space, even Madame Ping said that her skill is nothing compared to Zhongli's... make you wonder when she can create unlimited space teapot
Something that this theorist fails to notice (or they know but they ignore it) is that The Chenyu God died in a foreign land according to the Sacrificial Jade (the new catalyst from Battle Pass) way before Zhongli assumed rulership over Chenyu. Afaik, Cuijue Slope isn't a foreign land or anywhere in Liyue to support their "Guizhong is Chenyu God" when they believe she died in Cuijue Slope
Where's that cave where bonanus killed menogias?
In southern Yaodie Valley, guarded by a few hilichurls
good video
Whats the name of the soundtrack in 0:55? I've been searching for it since last year lantern rite
This one is the version played in Xianyun's Story Quest, but the one from lantern rite last year is called First Blossom of Spring.
@@SiliconOneFour thanksss
Ugh i really wish it wasn’t her, it would be so so sad :(
11:48 wait that’s a location? Where is this cave!?
Southern Part of Yaodie Valley, in a cave behind a small hilichurl camp
@@SiliconOneFour I found it and I also found Shenhe’s spear. I didn’t quite get the text. How did you get into the conclusion that happened there?
@@kana9920 The description from the Calamity Queller in the archive
So how do we know where Bonanus killed Menogias?
We are told from the Calamity Queller's lore that two friends fought in a cave, and we see these two fight in multiple animated cutscenes. With the Calamity Queller here in this cave, it all fits together.
I have a question that is Xiao and other yakshas also served under this 'evil archon' (Guizhong according to your theory)? Since Xiao's signature weapon has obviously the same design as jade cutter.
And about Guizhong's ability, according to the world quest, the archon of Chenyu Vale had some certain authority dealing with 'dreams' if I'm remembering correctly. And we also know that the people of Chenyu Vale were able to connect with Celestia which means Guizhong might be one of the Seelies (we can also see that Guizhong has that blinky paimon effect when she walks from last year's LR cutsene).
They could've served under Guizhong, but I think it would've been a different god.
Guizhong is from South, the Chasm, before the Archon War Liyue have 5 different geo related god, it could either be deity on Yaoyao's village that Xiao used to serves under or it could be the one on ruins weat of today Liyue harbor.
But the Primordial Jade winged spear (Xiao's signature weapon) was crafted by Morax to defeat Baqiu so......
Guizhong is not the same as the god who enslaved Xiao (the other Yakshas are not included), because Xiao was among the 5 Yakshas who sealed Guizhong, which means that the god was already long dead by then
it's not guizhong but chizhang
Wish u could add subtitles :c
I have auto-generated subtitles, but I don't have the time to go and add subtitles myself unfortunately
I highly doubt that Guizhong attacked Zhongli. Something about that just doesn't feel right.
I have to agree, we are missing pieces in the tale only Zhongli could fill now along with Alatus.
Maybe she was not herself at the moment, maybe she was under the effects of other gods' remains, the ones yakshas have been taked to cleanse. Or maybe in her pursuit of Khaenri'ahn machineries, she was tinted by forbidden knowledge...? I can't say abyssal energy, because the Archon war happened before the cataclysm ( approx. 2700 ago vs 500 ago).
That's my take on why Guizhong could have attacked Zhongli or Morax at the moment.
@@user-ov3cv7yf6i I'm of mindset goddess of Chenyu wasn't Guizhong due fact Fujin asked about a woman with RED eyes. We don't know who enslaved Alatus. As for Guizhong? I agree it feels like a abyssal corruption situation like Deshret with her. I do enjoy Silicone's idea though cause it's possible. I just don't think it was Guizhong, I think she fought this red eyed goddess though, that's my thoughts for now but we're missing pieces.
Are you implying that it was the same case with Orabashi?
This might surprise you but Sumeru reveals a lot of what Abyss and Forbidden knowledge can do to a person. That even a God such as Nahida previous incarnation could die from getting affected by it because the information are well lovecraftian to an extend that before it gets the best of her, either rukkha let herself died or off herself to prevent it from spreading even further.
Given Guizhong relation to Chasm, I wouldn't ve surprised if along the way she would discover the truth that led to her people demise in the first cataclysm after war with the 2nd throne is over.
I actually just skip dialogue but love to see theory of Genshin so it doesn’t matter spoilers lol
i dont think it her.
You so bad at lore information that's ridiculous. The first thing about Guizhong that you should always mention is "Memory of Dust". She obviously was scared of Morax(his powers) and if they will fight she'll lose immediately. THAT'S WHY SHE WANT TO BE ALLY NOT AN ENEMY WITH HIM . Morax smart and powerful, Guizhong only smart. She pretty well knew that situation in world is dangerous (before the Archon War there were many battles between the Demon-gods). Therefore, she needed a protector in the person of Morax for her people. And just reading the lore of the Adepti of the Jueyun Karst, think how stupid your theory about the betrayal of Guizhong sounds.
Chenyu's Vale Goddes was Changsheng (her melody(theme) playing in Yaodie Valley) Or maybe not . But it's definitely not Guizhong.
Edit: Changsheng is Herblord. An adeptus. We doesn't have enough information about Chenyu's Vale goddess identity
I think this person tried so hard to connect Guizhong to Chenyu Vale. He heard a "former master" and instantly thinks it is Guizhong and making proof using the usual fanon misconception of her. Take Cuijue Slope for example, he failed to mention that Zhongli created the monument so that the next generations remember the horror of war and not once mentioned about it for Guizhong. Also using the legend of Gallant Heart, so he wants to say that Guizhong is a blood-thirsty individual that mercilessly killed Mililleth? Yeah. Not gonna let that woman anywhere near Zhongli now, She is a bad influence (this is a joke btw)
No, Changsheng was not the goddess. Changsheng was the Herblord, Fujin and Lingyuan's other adeptus friend, who fought with the goddess. We don't know the identity of the god, but it wasn't Changsheng.
@@furishirogane3606 We know why the monument is at Cuijue slope, which is what you described. But there is absolutely no information about why the area is covered in a black haze. Personally, I do subscribe to the theory that Guizhong died there, and I think it's very likely that that's _why_ the Nine Pillars of Peace were built there, in her memory, as she was the god who wanted peace the most. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's never said who built the pillars, is it? Only why they were built. I'm not saying it wasn't Zhongli, but the inscription on the tablet reads more like it was written by a human to me.
@@bookswithike3256 yeah. It's my mistake. Sorry.
@@bookswithike3256"According to legend, the nine pillars were erected to keep nine human desires at bay: Greed, nostalgia, vision, jealousy, anger, lust, self-aggrandizement, competition, and turmoil. By doing so, the conflicts plaguing the world would be quelled. However, if someone were to break the pillars and enter the temple, war would once again consume the world. The inscription thus implores any who would break the seal to take the treasures within and defend Liyue"
That's from the wiki and remember, to unlock the nine pillars, 9 stone of rememberance needs to be gathered from the Geo Archon statue hence the believe he's the one who built it. It's close than saying the place is for Guizhong because a weapon says "black dust" and she's goddest of dust, therefore the place is connected to her because the sky is black.
Nothing about her memory when the monument is talking about 9 human desires at bay. You can headcanon that place as her tomb but it's merely a fan theory that has no connection with her unless you twist certain lore and make them about her. how about the dark sky? Wuwang Hill has a permanent dark sky too, add that we have places like Guyun Stone Forest and Chi of the Qingce where bigger, even more dangerous gods are sealed yet no enviromental hazard where shown there.
This is bad lore, she died in the beginning of the war fighting with Morax
And in the video, I explained how that would still work.
This would be so sad for morax if he had to kill his own friend, guizhong🥲