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Idk if I trust those wallets tbh Every time a company promises genuine Italian leather I always come to find out it's just made of cows instead of genuine Italians.
As someone who wears sun-themed clothing and is obsessed with finding the sun IRL, this video is really empowering and soothing! Just fired my therapist and quit my meds, wtf is this bug let me put it on my head
So many years later, I still find myself amazed by the depth and beauty of the lore of Dark Souls world. It's incredible how other games put so much dialogue and action without telling any interestring story, and for this game it takes a few lines, an item and a little bit of worldbuilding, to make a story so much deeper and mesmerizing.
I think it's because mysteries and speculations are always more interesting and fun than hard facts. With a linear story, clearly defined things happen in clearly defined ways and you either like it or you don't. Soulsborne type games, though, are more malleable and there's ten different plausible things that COULD have happened and you can pick your favorite interpretation. I read a book recently where the first 4/5 of it was mystery and piecing things together, and I just read the whole thing up to a point in one sitting, then when I got to the point where they were explaining what HAD happened, I put the book down had very little desire or incentive to finish.
Solaire seems to express a lesson about perseverance and the importance in not taking shortcuts to success. I find it funny that to save solaire you have to use a shortcut path that actually involves more effort and doesnt actually speed your way towards the boss of the area.
@@Bilbobaggins82242 He never said it got taller. Notice the bends and inconsistencies in the crown? It was probably taller at one point, and became warped by heat.
I don't think most undead actually know that Gwyn used himself as fuel at the Kiln of the First Flame. Frampt is even ambiguous as to what succeeding Gwyn means, and only Kaathe mentions that you'll have to fight Gwyn at the Kiln. Solaire might not have known anything about Linking the Fire when he decided upon his goal, so he may not have been seeking to use himself as fuel for anything or anyone.
Miyazaki has actually said that due to fan interpretation he has altered his perspective on the overall fate of Solaire and that in the ending where the player chooses darkness, Solaire would likely arrive soon after to kindle the flame in their stead.
If you really consider what his ambitions entail I feel like Solaire is much more likely to take the path to Darkness. His story reminds me a lot of how the initial lords found souls in the dark. Perhaps after the world reverted to ash he could find his own "sun" within the dark.
It's Havel the Rock for me personally. He could've clapped all the gods and major bosses especially seath of what they did to his girl if it wasnt for the traitors who exposed his coup d'etat plan
@@ForestX77he likely knew that to become undead, you must die. because the fire is fading, he was able to become undead, so he committed suicide to become undead. he definitely knew how it worked.
Honestly I believe that that turn of phrase of describing what he did is accurate in what he actually did, killing himself, but connotationally feels as though it's talking about like a slow premeditated thing he did, when in fact it could have been that he willingly just went out to fight, knowing he wasn't going to win or do well up until he finally got killed, rather than outright doing something to himself
@@ForestX77 There are examples of NPC that are human, like Sieglinde of Catarina and Big Hat Logan that are believed to not be undead but humans. Remember, this Land of Lordran was known for not dying but rather having the life force sucking out of you. Other people came to this land to search for.... different things :)
Unfortunately, without wisdom and cunning, this impulse is often preyed upon. As it was in Solaire's case, who had been convinced to propagate the fire-linking curse which would eventually consume the world and leave nothing but ashes.
@@DreamersOfReality So the same reason why communism is looked at as something bad, because every time a communist society (where everyone shares the resources) has been formed, a dictator has taken over and taken all the resources for himself. Now most people are seemingly unable to see the connection between the word "communism" and the word "community"... All they see is the dictator...
The Titanite Demons manifested from the titanite shards that were worked and marked by the unnamed blacksmith god, from who’s body is the template that TD take form. It stands to reason that the Sunlight Maggots manifested from Gwynn’s crown. Both the Titanite Demons and the Sunlight Maggots have powers associated with the Light Souls, lightning and light respectively.
The Astorians are very much devoted to Gwyn and the gods of Anor Londo. But Gwyn is gone, and the gods have gone silent for an age. Only Gwynevere supposedly remains, and "she" claims Gwyn needs to be succeeded... if you manage to somehow reach her, which no one has done for about a thousand years give or take. Solaire worships sunlight and brilliance; he's looking for a brilliant sun, and expresses wishes of being sun-like. Given Gwyn's title is lord of SUNLIGHT, that carries a rather heavy religious implication. It's like saying you want to be Christ like. In sunlight, he sees warmth, light, and since he's part of the Sunlight Warriors, camaraderie and cooperation. But those things are fading, and the people of Astora have legends and prophesy on how one may solve that fading, or at least learn its meaning; and those lead to Lordran, where they are told replacing Gwyn and re-igniting the first flame is their fate. I don't think Solaire knew it from the start, but his wish of being finding a sun, of being as brilliant as the sun, align perfectly with the wishes of Anor Londo. That's why Solaire's not-maggoted ending is, according to Miyasaki, to re-kindle the first flame. She found his sun; his chance to become as brilliant as the Lord of Sunlight himself. But the way he speaks of it at the start does sound a little blasphemy-esque. Maybe that's why people gave him weird looks. "Oh I wish I could be like god, and restore fellowship and goodness in the world" would certainly give you some unkind attention among devoted folks XD
I have only just noticed, in my point of view, that the sunlight maggot, when splayed out in its crown form, looks a little like Solaire's symbol. The centre of the maggot looks good with a small face and the outside looks dark red, very much like the symbol on his attire. Sorry if this has been brought up before but I've played this game, which I love dearly alongside the rest of the Souls games, for a very long time and still discovering new things 🙂
Solaire follows the path of the sunlight altar and also tells you to go there to know the brilliance of the sun, so what he is looking for is the lost god who is gwyn firstborn! Because unlike those who follow the Darkmon covenant or Princess of the Sun, Solaire knows nothing about his god, he never heard his voice and not even know what he looks like.
Also however, have you ever compared Gwyndolin crown with the sunlight maggot. The similarity is stunning. Like there has to be some lore there. Like Gwyndolin created the sun for anor londo, due to the similarity to Gwyndolyn's sun helmet thing, he thought the maggot could be the answer. And it was kinda. Gwyndolin made a sun, but Solaire made a small, personal sun and lost his sanity.
Well he does “go crazy” but the point is that he’s not crazy to begin with. Failing his quest of finding a suitable “Sun” and accepting a twisted replacement drives him mad
Yes but take in to account that at this point Sloair has seen you fight or seen you come out victorious, he knows we will do anything to make sure what must be done is done
I like the unspoken aspects of this game. Like going Hollow for example, going Hollow is literally just the game beating players into submission with it's difficulty so they quit. All that is left is your player character, empty and hollow of it's player's mind. It's like the developers saying, yes we know our game is hard. Here's a lore tidbit to add to the world.
5:57 I am sorry but I completely don’t see the similarities. I think this point needs a lot more of the explanation why authors think they are similar.
@@educkwithfedora8399 you are right! Author shows it in video but Unfortunately my original point still stands - In video Author Talked about Gwyn Crown - and I still don't see similarities between Sunlight Maggots (both helm and creature) to Gwyn Crown and using Crown of the dusk doesn't help too much in compering those two (since imho Dusk crown doesnt resemble Gwyn crown either)
Love that you guys are still putting out quality lore videos about Dark Souls 1. I play this game once a year and this year i got the platinumed the game. And i have to say even after all these years and knowing the game top to bottom you learn more lore every day and it just keeps giving.
I recently started replaying Dark Souls 1. I’ve only played it once before a couple of years ago. (Played the og 360 version if anyone cares). But it became one of my favourite games ever. I also recently discovered your lore videos and I must say you have become my favourite Dark Souls lore video channel. Glad to see you still uploading new videos covering this amazing game!
Yeah. I love Souls lore but it's been like what? 13 years now? It's beyond beating a dead horse so it's no wonder they have to come up with more and more ridiculous crap.
I didn’t really trust anyone the first time I played this game because of the way the NPCs all seem. So naturally I assumed Solaire was evil and killed him for his armor. I was the evil one all along….
From what I understand he is a worshipper of the “Nameless” King who is the actual firstborn son of Gwyn. Unfortunately, his story has a strange set of paths, 1 path goes poorly where he loses his mind from the Sunlight Maggot Demon feeding on him, the other path he manages to survive but lives for a long time and hates you for surpassing him.
@@OldTownKillerthe theory that solaire is one of gwyn’s kids is completely baseless. the most damning way to shoot this theory down is the fact that he is undead.
IMO Solaire's sun is a metaphor for faith. I believe Miyazaki is a fan of the film Angel's Egg and that it inspired him partially to use faith as a theme all across his work
I would like to point out the sun maggot also has similar stylistic parallels to the spokes of gwyndolin’s crown which “manifests gwyndolin’s deep adoration for the sun” and physically creates a similar false impression of the sun, while also being a thematic parallel of the illusion of sunlight gwyndolin casts over Anor Londo Those two characters have pretty interesting parallels in general
Solaire doesn't sacrifice himself to ignite the flame in DS1 otherwise he wouldn't have an extended history doing other things other characters tell you about in DS3.
Solaire's desire to find his own sun, and his ultimate acceptance of the Sunlight Maggot, might not be symptoms of madness, but that doesn't mean he hasn't gone mad. The first time we meet him, he already has the characteristic chuckle that FromSoft uses to indicate that the character has begun to lose sanity.
A small nitpick. I think the word civilization would be a better choice than society as civilization is at its core formal with institutions, a legal system, subjugation and empire. Also civilization's opposite is barbarism, which ties in nicely with the idea of the Age of Dark being the natural state of man and man's beastly nature.
I dont think the crown and maggot look alike, and im pretty sure the player using it without consequences is just like a fun little secret. The crown design to me looks like melted glass, but sure it must be some harder material thay somehow looks kinda like wax.
lol Miyazaki said his canon ending was finding the sunlight maggot and becoming its victim. Him being saved was just something from added end to see how many players would find out.
@@jarlwilliam9932 Didn't Miyazaki only say that's the ending that most players are likely to experience instead? He doesn't seem to state one ending is more canon than another in the interview that's translated on the Wikidot's lore page.
@@nightscout9979 Sure but he also stated that the hidden end to solaire’s questline was not intended to be in the game originally and was something they added as an after thought or something along those lines.
@@jarlwilliam9932 I don't recall Miyazaki saying that at all. All Miyazaki says is that it's extremely difficult to save Solaire without hints and conveying hints is something From Software might need to work on. Here is what Miyazaki says about Solaire from the Game no Shokutaku interview that's translated on the Souls Lore wikidot: "It's impossible to do it without hints. For Solaire, there's a shortage of hints in general. To be able to fight alongside him in the end was pretty much a secret. We expected Solaire to be taken over by the Sunlight Maggot as the general norm. But anyways, in this case (and in others), the conveying of hints is a subject we need to work on. This is another topic, but we should work more on achieving goals in the game regarding both locations and objects. We should try to include more ways to present clues, as it is my personal taste. I just think there are more ways to convey hints. Going back to Solaire, it's really a secret and I think that the happiest ending for him is to die by becoming the sun!" Miyazaki also says this in the same interview: "If you kill the red-eyed Sunlight Maggot, he can fight with you against the last boss. After that, he will link the fire in his own world." Based on this, Solaire being saved wasn't added in later or non-canon, just that it was a secret and very hard to achieve.
i feel like the variations and "impurities" on gwyns crown are meant to represent the disparity brought by the age of fire, but the maggots looking so much like the crown is still very true imo
Solair isn't crazy. But it's weird why he went to a place filled with fire witches that are experts in tempering with fire to find the sun that he was looking for. Must have been the same thing to solaire.
lovely video it really does astound me how much new fresh content we are able to get from these games many years after their release I can only imagine how long Elden Ring will last for
"Noblesse oblige." "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." Every despot think their lot is one of sacrifice rather than privilege. Snuff the flame. Let the Age of Dark commence...
Gwyne crown is fire 🔥 upward burning and wild. Sunlight maggot helm is like the sun emitting light in all directions but crooked like how the sun wildly emits light in all directions... Gwyndolins mask 🎭 helm crown 👑. Is symmetrical and even pointed cuz the moon or "dark sun " reflects the sunlight but filters it to a perfect shape of light with no wild edges. Part of me wanted solaire to find Gwyndolin and for lack of a better way of putting it "you're my son/sun now " and save each other from their fruitless endeavor to appease Gwyns plan. Solaire to find a sun 🌝 the dark sun to live for and gwyndolin to feel loved and worshipoed as he is hidden like a dirty secret in anor londo without even a statue 🗽 visible they left pedestals empty
In alchemy the goal is to become what we on earth observe as stars and suns. This is what it truly means to become enlightened and what is in religion and the occult regarded as gods
I have always thought THAT THE SUN in Dark Souls represents all that is good feeling and the dark is representative of negative emotions, and such emotions turn us into something greater both for good and bad. Such is the case of Havel.
See? Solaire cannot be faulted. Praise the Lore!
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An adult is crazy if he can't understand what happens around him or/and can't act acording to said understanding.
Idk if I trust those wallets tbh
Every time a company promises genuine Italian leather I always come to find out it's just made of cows instead of genuine Italians.
As someone who wears sun-themed clothing and is obsessed with finding the sun IRL, this video is really empowering and soothing! Just fired my therapist and quit my meds, wtf is this bug let me put it on my head
Never thought of solaire as crazy. I was just sad that he never realised he had allready become a sun. For me. For many. For all of us. 😢
Right?!
Dude, my eyes are sweating, what a weird climate we are living these days 😢
Praise the sun \T/
Bruh... Bout to make a grown man cry
why you gotta make me cry rn I'm trying to cook spaghetti
So many years later, I still find myself amazed by the depth and beauty of the lore of Dark Souls world. It's incredible how other games put so much dialogue and action without telling any interestring story, and for this game it takes a few lines, an item and a little bit of worldbuilding, to make a story so much deeper and mesmerizing.
I think it's because mysteries and speculations are always more interesting and fun than hard facts. With a linear story, clearly defined things happen in clearly defined ways and you either like it or you don't. Soulsborne type games, though, are more malleable and there's ten different plausible things that COULD have happened and you can pick your favorite interpretation. I read a book recently where the first 4/5 of it was mystery and piecing things together, and I just read the whole thing up to a point in one sitting, then when I got to the point where they were explaining what HAD happened, I put the book down had very little desire or incentive to finish.
@@devcrom3hello, what’s the name of the book please?
@@devcrom3Miyazaki the goat
@@devcrom3 You will love Umineko no naku koro ni
4:54 I can finally hear some Shadow Of The Colossus - Sign of Colossi theme in there. I know cause I listen to every second of it.
I'm a simple man, I see a dark souls lore video and I consume
Give it to me... That thing... The Dark Souls Video..
I must
Fear not the dark, My friend... And let the feast begin.
Praise the sun my friend
Humanity Restored
Solaire seems to express a lesson about perseverance and the importance in not taking shortcuts to success. I find it funny that to save solaire you have to use a shortcut path that actually involves more effort and doesnt actually speed your way towards the boss of the area.
And yet we must do it, but rather than use the shortcut, I always use poison mist through the door, and wait for all the bugs to die.
just dupe humanity lol
@@despair239 It doesn't work on xbox
me: Hey Solarie, my dream is to have a house, whats yours?
Solarie: I WANT MY OWN SUN!!!
(My man doesent dream small)
I think Gwyn's crown is straight up melted.
Yeah, I don't see any similarity between it and the Sunlight Maggot personally, I think it's a bit of a stretch
Things don't melt up bro.... They don't get taller and more pointy.....
@@Bilbobaggins82242 He never said it got taller. Notice the bends and inconsistencies in the crown? It was probably taller at one point, and became warped by heat.
You can compare the in game item to the crown Gywn wears in the intro cutscene.
He's not hollowed, nor burned in that scene.
I don't think most undead actually know that Gwyn used himself as fuel at the Kiln of the First Flame. Frampt is even ambiguous as to what succeeding Gwyn means, and only Kaathe mentions that you'll have to fight Gwyn at the Kiln. Solaire might not have known anything about Linking the Fire when he decided upon his goal, so he may not have been seeking to use himself as fuel for anything or anyone.
Even we are confused when the first flame starts burning us
Miyazaki has actually said that due to fan interpretation he has altered his perspective on the overall fate of Solaire and that in the ending where the player chooses darkness, Solaire would likely arrive soon after to kindle the flame in their stead.
If you really consider what his ambitions entail I feel like Solaire is much more likely to take the path to Darkness. His story reminds me a lot of how the initial lords found souls in the dark. Perhaps after the world reverted to ash he could find his own "sun" within the dark.
@knightofwhale2834 No. Miyazaki confirmed that if you save Solaire he will burn himself in the kiln, no matter what ending you choose.
Source or you're lying. I tried looking it up and only found old news about what he'd said about Solaire returning to his world and linking the fire
Provide proof. You are lying.
Is there any proof
I always assumed that he was looking for his purpose in life. People take Souls too literally. It's full of metaphores and symbolism.
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I AM NOT CRAZY. I know he swapped those helms. Sunlight maggot. So grossly incandescent. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never.
Ever since he was undead, always the same!
Nice BCS reference
Further proof that Solaire is the goat of Dark Souls
Goat of Dark Souls, sandworm of Dark Souls 3
It's Havel the Rock for me personally. He could've clapped all the gods and major bosses especially seath of what they did to his girl if it wasnt for the traitors who exposed his coup d'etat plan
Vengarl is close second
Solaire, like others, also CHOSE to become undead. He committed suicide to gain access to Lordran... He knew what he was doing.
I wanna know how does one choose to become undead?
@@ForestX77 i wanna know too!
@@ForestX77he likely knew that to become undead, you must die. because the fire is fading, he was able to become undead, so he committed suicide to become undead. he definitely knew how it worked.
Honestly I believe that that turn of phrase of describing what he did is accurate in what he actually did, killing himself, but connotationally feels as though it's talking about like a slow premeditated thing he did, when in fact it could have been that he willingly just went out to fight, knowing he wasn't going to win or do well up until he finally got killed, rather than outright doing something to himself
@@ForestX77 There are examples of NPC that are human, like Sieglinde of Catarina and Big Hat Logan that are believed to not be undead but humans. Remember, this Land of Lordran was known for not dying but rather having the life force sucking out of you. Other people came to this land to search for.... different things :)
TL;DR - Solaire is just a good person trying to be part of something greater
Unfortunately, without wisdom and cunning, this impulse is often preyed upon. As it was in Solaire's case, who had been convinced to propagate the fire-linking curse which would eventually consume the world and leave nothing but ashes.
@@DreamersOfReality So the same reason why communism is looked at as something bad, because every time a communist society (where everyone shares the resources) has been formed, a dictator has taken over and taken all the resources for himself. Now most people are seemingly unable to see the connection between the word "communism" and the word "community"... All they see is the dictator...
The Titanite Demons manifested from the titanite shards that were worked and marked by the unnamed blacksmith god, from who’s body is the template that TD take form. It stands to reason that the Sunlight Maggots manifested from Gwynn’s crown. Both the Titanite Demons and the Sunlight Maggots have powers associated with the Light Souls, lightning and light respectively.
The Astorians are very much devoted to Gwyn and the gods of Anor Londo. But Gwyn is gone, and the gods have gone silent for an age.
Only Gwynevere supposedly remains, and "she" claims Gwyn needs to be succeeded... if you manage to somehow reach her, which no one has done for about a thousand years give or take.
Solaire worships sunlight and brilliance; he's looking for a brilliant sun, and expresses wishes of being sun-like. Given Gwyn's title is lord of SUNLIGHT, that carries a rather heavy religious implication. It's like saying you want to be Christ like.
In sunlight, he sees warmth, light, and since he's part of the Sunlight Warriors, camaraderie and cooperation. But those things are fading, and the people of Astora have legends and prophesy on how one may solve that fading, or at least learn its meaning; and those lead to Lordran, where they are told replacing Gwyn and re-igniting the first flame is their fate.
I don't think Solaire knew it from the start, but his wish of being finding a sun, of being as brilliant as the sun, align perfectly with the wishes of Anor Londo. That's why Solaire's not-maggoted ending is, according to Miyasaki, to re-kindle the first flame. She found his sun; his chance to become as brilliant as the Lord of Sunlight himself.
But the way he speaks of it at the start does sound a little blasphemy-esque. Maybe that's why people gave him weird looks. "Oh I wish I could be like god, and restore fellowship and goodness in the world" would certainly give you some unkind attention among devoted folks XD
If only i could be so grossly incandescent
I also think it's fitting that to get that ending, he needs to not only help and cooperate, but also to be helped by the player's own cooperation.
'If only i could be so grossly incandescent'
The sunlight maggot could have also been imitating gwyn and gwyndolins crowns themselves
3:10 You didn't just use the music from Gothic 2 from Lobarts Farm. You just earned my like just for that because this means that you know that game.
I have only just noticed, in my point of view, that the sunlight maggot, when splayed out in its crown form, looks a little like Solaire's symbol. The centre of the maggot looks good with a small face and the outside looks dark red, very much like the symbol on his attire. Sorry if this has been brought up before but I've played this game, which I love dearly alongside the rest of the Souls games, for a very long time and still discovering new things 🙂
Solaire follows the path of the sunlight altar and also tells you to go there to know the brilliance of the sun, so what he is looking for is the lost god who is gwyn firstborn!
Because unlike those who follow the Darkmon covenant or Princess of the Sun, Solaire knows nothing about his god, he never heard his voice and not even know what he looks like.
Also however, have you ever compared Gwyndolin crown with the sunlight maggot. The similarity is stunning. Like there has to be some lore there. Like Gwyndolin created the sun for anor londo, due to the similarity to Gwyndolyn's sun helmet thing, he thought the maggot could be the answer. And it was kinda. Gwyndolin made a sun, but Solaire made a small, personal sun and lost his sanity.
The wallet being powered by the sun is a perfect promotion/advertisement.👍
Okay but if he didn't go crazy why did he starts attacking us as we encounter him?
Well he does “go crazy” but the point is that he’s not crazy to begin with. Failing his quest of finding a suitable “Sun” and accepting a twisted replacement drives him mad
Yes but take in to account that at this point Sloair has seen you fight or seen you come out victorious, he knows we will do anything to make sure what must be done is done
I think Solaire's fault is that he was too focused on the light/sun and his pursuit of it instead of its ultimate purpose
Gwyns crown has uneven spikes which symbolize the uneven distribution of power in his society
I like the unspoken aspects of this game.
Like going Hollow for example, going Hollow is literally just the game beating players into submission with it's difficulty so they quit. All that is left is your player character, empty and hollow of it's player's mind.
It's like the developers saying, yes we know our game is hard. Here's a lore tidbit to add to the world.
Gwyndolin's crown has exactly the same shape as the sunlight maggot.
Oh my goodness!! Your right!! Great connection
The Crown just looks like Fire.
Take the Old Bonefires from the OG Dark Souls, they had the same wavy design for the flames.
I imagine Hawkshaw and Vaati as Coryhn type scribes😂
Then having a breakdown when the lore acts “blasphemous”
That's insulting, Coryhn is an idiot
Coryhn was a bum and his incantations stink
@buffoonustroglodytus4688 you are also forgetting downright useless. You can do the gold masks quest without him
@@kacecrimson8297 damn I didn’t even know that.
5:57 I am sorry but I completely don’t see the similarities.
I think this point needs a lot more of the explanation why authors think they are similar.
Gwyndolin's crown has the exact same shape as the maggot
@@educkwithfedora8399 you are right! Author shows it in video but
Unfortunately my original point still stands - In video Author Talked about Gwyn Crown - and I still don't see similarities between Sunlight Maggots (both helm and creature) to Gwyn Crown and using Crown of the dusk doesn't help too much in compering those two (since imho Dusk crown doesnt resemble Gwyn crown either)
I dont care how this video ends. Im already huffing the copium that my man never lost his humanity.
I wonder how Solaire would feel about this "three day blindness thing" with the solar eclispe
What a day to be blessed with a Solaire lore video from our lord and savior Hawkshaw. Simply incandescent.
King ahead, therefore try praise the sun
The man went looking for the sun underground 😂
"leaders are compelled to live a life of sacrifice"
lmfao right
Bro made me feel like that wallet is found in Lordran
Yaaahhhhh Solaire content!!! Here weee goooo!!!!
and suddenly Darkstalker Kaathe seems a little less unhinged to me...
Love that you guys are still putting out quality lore videos about Dark Souls 1. I play this game once a year and this year i got the platinumed the game. And i have to say even after all these years and knowing the game top to bottom you learn more lore every day and it just keeps giving.
I recently started replaying Dark Souls 1. I’ve only played it once before a couple of years ago. (Played the og 360 version if anyone cares). But it became one of my favourite games ever. I also recently discovered your lore videos and I must say you have become my favourite Dark Souls lore video channel. Glad to see you still uploading new videos covering this amazing game!
Solaire to some extent is crazy. Who the heck in their right mind would stare at the sun like that? One who wishes to go blind.
the sunlight maggot to flame crown pipeline was a stretch beyond even the best contortionists.
you see, both go on the head
😂😂😂😂 u r right, this video reminds me of the fanatism of religious pesants in the midleage
Yeah. I love Souls lore but it's been like what? 13 years now? It's beyond beating a dead horse so it's no wonder they have to come up with more and more ridiculous crap.
Well, Gwyndolin's Crown is the exact same shape as the maggot, dunno why he didn't use it as an example
He was too pure and innocent for the Dark souls world
Just give the man his sun
In gwenyveres case. Theres two suns just below her.
Ornstein and Smough?
@@nebulawh your close.
@@maninthesnow4393 Amazing chest ahead?
Solaire should have been confirmed as Gwyns canonical son
Where do my coins go with that wallet?
I didn’t really trust anyone the first time I played this game because of the way the NPCs all seem.
So naturally I assumed Solaire was evil and killed him for his armor.
I was the evil one all along….
Thers a way to keep solair from falling to the sunlight maggot
Did you choose not to talk about gwyndolins crown because I could swear I saw it for half of a second in the middle of the video?
As far as I know, the design of Gwyn's crown is based on the Crown of Kings from Steve Jackson's Sorcery! series.
From what I understand he is a worshipper of the “Nameless” King who is the actual firstborn son of Gwyn. Unfortunately, his story has a strange set of paths, 1 path goes poorly where he loses his mind from the Sunlight Maggot Demon feeding on him, the other path he manages to survive but lives for a long time and hates you for surpassing him.
So is Solaire no longer considered to be a son of Gwyn?
@@OldTownKiller Not that I’m aware of. He was worshipped a smashed Statue of the now Nameless King.
@@OldTownKillerthe theory that solaire is one of gwyn’s kids is completely baseless. the most damning way to shoot this theory down is the fact that he is undead.
IMO Solaire's sun is a metaphor for faith. I believe Miyazaki is a fan of the film Angel's Egg and that it inspired him partially to use faith as a theme all across his work
Never seen that movie, do you recommend it?
Great movie
just watched 3 of your videos while playing dark souls. Great times. Keep up the good work
I mean, I never thought he was, but glad you think so.
i love that you keep on working on DS1, great video
Another banger from Hawkshaw, love it man!
But, hear me out, what if Solaire is, in fact, crazy?
Solaire is my bro he helps me on O&S
I would like to point out the sun maggot also has similar stylistic parallels to the spokes of gwyndolin’s crown which “manifests gwyndolin’s deep adoration for the sun” and physically creates a similar false impression of the sun, while also being a thematic parallel of the illusion of sunlight gwyndolin casts over Anor Londo
Those two characters have pretty interesting parallels in general
Sorry, I can't make it into work today. A new Hawkshaw dropped.
Was Patches ever wrong?
This video didn’t appear on my subscriptions. I had to find it on the home feed like a peasant. Obviously, I am traumatized by this.
Hearing music from Gothic make my heart blush .
who among us hasn’t made a Mistake with the Bug
Solaire doesn't sacrifice himself to ignite the flame in DS1 otherwise he wouldn't have an extended history doing other things other characters tell you about in DS3.
New Hawkshaw video: 🤯
It's' 7 minutes: 😰
Just means the cooperation won't be in the next, longer video with better and deeper lore as well as storytelling! Praise the lore
This video was ass
Solaire's desire to find his own sun, and his ultimate acceptance of the Sunlight Maggot, might not be symptoms of madness, but that doesn't mean he hasn't gone mad.
The first time we meet him, he already has the characteristic chuckle that FromSoft uses to indicate that the character has begun to lose sanity.
13 years and I haven't seen this item, glad I started my first faith playthroigh
I'm hyped to know how he turned into a Cemetery Shade.
A small nitpick. I think the word civilization would be a better choice than society as civilization is at its core formal with institutions, a legal system, subjugation and empire. Also civilization's opposite is barbarism, which ties in nicely with the idea of the Age of Dark being the natural state of man and man's beastly nature.
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Behold; Man at his finest. 👆
Never thought of Solaire as a crazy knight, but this video was really great
I dont think the crown and maggot look alike, and im pretty sure the player using it without consequences is just like a fun little secret. The crown design to me looks like melted glass, but sure it must be some harder material thay somehow looks kinda like wax.
Yeah these lore people are so far up in their delusion that they may as well be npcs in Dark souls (cause npcs in DS are delusional)
I think he was the only person we met to notice the sun was an illusion
Always, after my first playthrough, I ALWAYS save up 30 humanity to save my boy
To me the canonical end of Solaire's quest has us indirectly saving him by killing the maggot and his journey taking him to the kiln itself.
lol Miyazaki said his canon ending was finding the sunlight maggot and becoming its victim. Him being saved was just something from added end to see how many players would find out.
@@jarlwilliam9932 Didn't Miyazaki only say that's the ending that most players are likely to experience instead? He doesn't seem to state one ending is more canon than another in the interview that's translated on the Wikidot's lore page.
@@nightscout9979 Sure but he also stated that the hidden end to solaire’s questline was not intended to be in the game originally and was something they added as an after thought or something along those lines.
@@jarlwilliam9932 I don't recall Miyazaki saying that at all. All Miyazaki says is that it's extremely difficult to save Solaire without hints and conveying hints is something From Software might need to work on. Here is what Miyazaki says about Solaire from the Game no Shokutaku interview that's translated on the Souls Lore wikidot:
"It's impossible to do it without hints. For Solaire, there's a shortage of hints in general. To be able to fight alongside him in the end was pretty much a secret. We expected Solaire to be taken over by the Sunlight Maggot as the general norm. But anyways, in this case (and in others), the conveying of hints is a subject we need to work on. This is another topic, but we should work more on achieving goals in the game regarding both locations and objects. We should try to include more ways to present clues, as it is my personal taste. I just think there are more ways to convey hints. Going back to Solaire, it's really a secret and I think that the happiest ending for him is to die by becoming the sun!"
Miyazaki also says this in the same interview:
"If you kill the red-eyed Sunlight Maggot, he can fight with you against the last boss. After that, he will link the fire in his own world."
Based on this, Solaire being saved wasn't added in later or non-canon, just that it was a secret and very hard to achieve.
@@nightscout9979 I was wrong then, but I would also add that him becoming the sun could include becoming a victim to the maggot.
What i find fascinating is that solaire canonically dispelled the illusion of anor londo.
Plot twist: he just wanted to be a nuclear engineer
About time somebody said it… praise the sun!
i feel like the variations and "impurities" on gwyns crown are meant to represent the disparity brought by the age of fire, but the maggots looking so much like the crown is still very true imo
Solair isn't crazy. But it's weird why he went to a place filled with fire witches that are experts in tempering with fire to find the sun that he was looking for. Must have been the same thing to solaire.
lovely video
it really does astound me how much new fresh content we are able to get from these games many years after their release
I can only imagine how long Elden Ring will last for
"Noblesse oblige." "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." Every despot think their lot is one of sacrifice rather than privilege. Snuff the flame. Let the Age of Dark commence...
Gwyne crown is fire 🔥 upward burning and wild. Sunlight maggot helm is like the sun emitting light in all directions but crooked like how the sun wildly emits light in all directions... Gwyndolins mask 🎭 helm crown 👑. Is symmetrical and even pointed cuz the moon or "dark sun " reflects the sunlight but filters it to a perfect shape of light with no wild edges. Part of me wanted solaire to find Gwyndolin and for lack of a better way of putting it "you're my son/sun now " and save each other from their fruitless endeavor to appease Gwyns plan. Solaire to find a sun 🌝 the dark sun to live for and gwyndolin to feel loved and worshipoed as he is hidden like a dirty secret in anor londo without even a statue 🗽 visible they left pedestals empty
In alchemy the goal is to become what we on earth observe as stars and suns. This is what it truly means to become enlightened and what is in religion and the occult regarded as gods
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Ordan village theme brings back memories
No way bros using gothic 2 music as ambiance mad respect
Sunlight maggot?
More like…sunlight f
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Crazy strong, maybe.
Love the soundtracks bud 👍
I have always thought THAT THE SUN in Dark Souls represents all that is good feeling and the dark is representative of negative emotions, and such emotions turn us into something greater both for good and bad. Such is the case of Havel.
The song from Gothic 2 took me by surprise a bit. I don't hear that soundtrack used as background a lot.
Babe wake up new hawkshaw vid
Solaire is the secret identity of Miyazaki himself.