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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @Hawkshaw
    @Hawkshaw  2 года назад +73

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    Hawkshaw

  • @AssailantLF
    @AssailantLF 3 года назад +2113

    Hawkshaw does it again. This is such a great take on Solaire and it rings so true.
    A couple fun facts from the Design Works interview:
    - Solaire is Miyazaki's favorite character
    - Solaire does actually become the sun when he links the flame, which indirectly confirms that Gwyn/the first flame is the source of the Sun in Souls.
    - The praise the sun gesture was relatively hidden in Demon's Souls (you have to wear a certain ring and cast a miracle) because when Miyazaki showed it to some executives, someone thought it looked uncool. Apparently this made him very determined to make the gesture more prominent and popular in the following game, which is a big reason why Solaire and the Sunlight Covenant are as wholesome and appealing as they are.

    • @hairypassage
      @hairypassage 3 года назад +216

      the bit about the emote is hilarious considering it’s one of the most recognizable things about dark souls at this point.

    • @IAmDdie1
      @IAmDdie1 2 года назад +69

      @@hairypassage going to be honest, if I ever saw Miyazaki in public, I'd praise the sun. It's the best emote in the whole game

    • @donk8961
      @donk8961 2 года назад +42

      Praise the sun! He tied the silly emote to a jolly message template, jolly character who’s a boss in fights, and to the light itself. Nothing beats finding your way out of the darkness and being greeted by that jovial message.

    • @forkittens
      @forkittens 2 года назад +23

      \o/

    • @redskullerz8365
      @redskullerz8365 2 года назад

      \[=]/ also this is an amazing video I've just found his Channel recently and it's so cool to find out these things from the game..... JOLLY COOPERATION FOR ALL :D

  • @44theshadow49
    @44theshadow49 3 года назад +1355

    I've had this quote boiling in my head for a while: "a great writer can be measured by how well they hide their own self insert characters."

    • @47ejecting2
      @47ejecting2 3 года назад +49

      I don't know if you've ever read BotNS (which is commonly recommended to fans of Dark Souls), but that author's self-insert character is quite well hidden!

    • @44theshadow49
      @44theshadow49 3 года назад +8

      @@47ejecting2 ill give that book a go

    • @MennydorgesERArchive
      @MennydorgesERArchive 3 года назад +5

      @@47ejecting2 what’s Botns?

    • @sidvs8816
      @sidvs8816 3 года назад +24

      @@MennydorgesERArchive the book of the new sun

    • @rex9912
      @rex9912 2 года назад +4

      This is super clever but doesn't work for someone like Murakami at all

  • @ferran273
    @ferran273 3 года назад +1325

    According to Miyazaki, if you save Solaire and defeat Gwyn with him not dying, he'll Link the Fire in his own world.
    You prevented him of falling in his dellusion, his despair, and he found what he was looking for.
    Thus further proving your point that Solaire, Miyazaki and us can achieve great triumph through jolly cooperation. We are people, not islands.
    Your videos make me love more and more Dark Souls. But this one made me cry. Thank you.

    • @lonewanderer1328
      @lonewanderer1328 3 года назад +8

      Noman island
      No man is an island

    • @KitsuneShapeShifter
      @KitsuneShapeShifter 3 года назад +22

      @@lonewanderer1328 Noman island
      No man is land

    • @lonewanderer1328
      @lonewanderer1328 3 года назад +1

      Nothing Nothingness someone hasn’t watched the incredibles

    • @meaningfulmindfulness15
      @meaningfulmindfulness15 3 года назад +12

      Yeah I cried at the end too, lol.
      Seeing someone succeed against odds against them is a badass thing. So cool

    • @elias.t
      @elias.t 3 года назад +4

      @@lonewanderer1328 The island in Incredibles was Nomanisan Island. Nothing Nothingness was poking fun at you writing Noman Island instead, which would make the statement "no man is land".

  • @appleseed8282
    @appleseed8282 3 года назад +2893

    Ah man, I can't wait to find out about how Solaire was that real protagonist of dark souls and a demon and eventually becomes the sand worm and was Velka the entire time.

    • @caitfitz8029
      @caitfitz8029 3 года назад +13

      😹😹😹

    • @christmasham4312
      @christmasham4312 3 года назад +128

      I thought he got her pregnant?

    • @appleseed8282
      @appleseed8282 3 года назад +105

      @@christmasham4312 Both are true

    • @ouplas
      @ouplas 3 года назад +39

      @@christmasham4312 Is this a full joke or was there actually something to theorize on that ?

    • @TheLegendaryTashy
      @TheLegendaryTashy 3 года назад +152

      @@ouplas everyone is Velka

  • @h.s6352
    @h.s6352 3 года назад +624

    What makes this even more poignant is the fact that Miyazaki put these two different endings for his self-insert without knowing whether this very game, his second (and what could have been his last) shot at fulfilling his dream, would succeed or not. Dark Souls could have very well flopped, gotten misunderstood and forgotten, and Miyazaki CHOSE to insert this observation about the cost of pursing art. And I love it.

    • @Gensolink
      @Gensolink 3 года назад +98

      With this knowledge one can then draw conclusion why the bad solaire's ending is so easy to achieve, he might have thought this could be his last work in the industry but there was an ember of hope flickering still. I find it interesting also how the solaire's good ending is so obscure you would need people's help to reach it, if the point was that you can't achieve your goals alone this might be a pretty meta way to make your point.

    • @_Tzer
      @_Tzer Год назад +6

      Fromsoft always pursued art even without miyazaki.

    • @katherinetilton2948
      @katherinetilton2948 Год назад +2

      Such a fantastic point

    • @ctrononon
      @ctrononon 11 месяцев назад +1

      Came to say this pretty much! Well said. It coulda easily gone the other way, and these things usually do (players usually miss the steps to save Solaire / it's really hard to make it as a creator), but in the good ending someone happened to give Miyazaki that helping hand / second chance / well-timed encouragement and we got Dark Souls, as a result of hard work plus a little extra magic or luck.

  • @pyoheliobros5773
    @pyoheliobros5773 3 года назад +300

    It always seemed so weird that he looked for the sun underground, but now that sounds kind of reasonable

    • @fosphor8920
      @fosphor8920 3 года назад +40

      huh I always thought he wasn't talking about the actual sun, but yet I had no idea what he was talking about at the time haha

  • @mrshook145
    @mrshook145 3 года назад +216

    See, maybe Miyazaki didn't consciously make Solaire as a representation of himself, but ended up making a reflection of his own experiences (like Tolkien and WWII parallels in Lord of the Rings). Great video as always, looking forward to what comes next.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius Год назад +8

      Or maybe some of the things Hawkshaw said about him were simply not true...

    • @AaSs-kk3tk
      @AaSs-kk3tk 11 месяцев назад +1

      I hate when people try to draw parallels between authors experience and art even when they deny it.

    • @ididntaskverified3663
      @ididntaskverified3663 Месяц назад

      or he could be a parallel to a young gwyn or storm king

  • @wikinut1
    @wikinut1 3 года назад +220

    I'll keep this video bookmarked. Souls lore aside, it's very motivating and recognizes some important lessons for anyone pursuing creative work or personal vision. Well done Hawkshaw!

    • @caitfitz8029
      @caitfitz8029 3 года назад +4

      I was just thinking something similar. A genuinely motivating video

  • @MrBordmahn
    @MrBordmahn 3 года назад +529

    A true Christmas miracle. I never thought I'd see another Dark Souls Lore vid from you. I've been using your other lore videos as an introduction for newer players to understand why Dark Souls is so interesting for years and I now have another to add to the list.

    • @gerhardashgrey9294
      @gerhardashgrey9294 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, I feel the same. Hawkshaw's videos are one of the first lore videos I ever watched and I was sad that he didn't have more :( But only now I noticed that he released new videos and it made me actually happy \[T]/ Truly a Christmas miracle! :)

  • @caiobarbosa7680
    @caiobarbosa7680 3 года назад +425

    Can't believe we're receveing even more lore. I thought you guys were done after that Plot Against the Gods video. So happy we have more coming down the way.
    Any plans to touch on Bloodborne? I sure have some tasty answers to some really deep questions about the lore and the timeline if you guys would ever visit Yharnam and i'd be glad to assist.
    Praise the Lore.

    • @Hawkshaw
      @Hawkshaw  3 года назад +156

      Appreciate it! Can't commit to saying we will do Bloodborne - would need to invest a decent amount of time back into the game to do so and currently the plan is to move to Elden Ring once that releases. But never say never!

    • @sirornstein
      @sirornstein 3 года назад +25

      @@Hawkshaw Ooh! I'd love to see Bloodborne stuff, it's tied with DS1 as my favorite Soulsborne game, and I'd love to see your take on the lore!

    • @oogwaytheotakuclips4370
      @oogwaytheotakuclips4370 3 года назад +2

      @@Hawkshaw i love your videos and i was wondering are you going to make lore videos about DS2 or DS3
      PRAISE THE LORE

    • @VindensSaga
      @VindensSaga 3 года назад +1

      Yeah. It is incrediable that Dark Souls lore videos are still coming after all these years.

    • @Krim707
      @Krim707 3 года назад +3

      @@Hawkshaw all souls games using this same engine as bloodborne (sekiro, ds3, elden ring) have some shared lore points i’ve noticed over the years. It’s worth a dive back into bloodborne but i suspect a remaster at some point

  • @MrZylix-6
    @MrZylix-6 3 года назад +84

    In Dark souls 3 the sun seems to extinguish when the First Flame fades, it’s almost as if the sun is a result of Gwyn’s flame (the same one that keeps bonfires near-perpetually lit), It’s _as if the Sun IS the First Flame_ in the souls world and the bonfires are linked in some way to it’s power. If that is true, perhaps Solaire’s desire to create his own Sun is FAR more literal than we think, he may believe if he becomes strong enough he can manifest the power of his soul as a Sun to provide light in a dim, fading world.

    • @yusukeelric
      @yusukeelric 2 года назад +9

      I believe Solaire ending is that he didn't find his sun, but he would become a sun himself, So someone else would have a sun to find in the future.

    • @gamernotvalid9452
      @gamernotvalid9452 2 года назад +1

      @@yusukeelric The whole thing about the sun and first flame is literally basic knowledge it's not speculation. Dude it's been years since DS came out and you still haven't read the wiki and learned basic info?

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 Год назад +1

      Basically its similar to the Egyptian ams Aztec Mythology,
      the Sun Represents a God usually a Very Important God who sacrefices him/herself to power it (both)
      an Out Group/Menices to Society are typically Choose to be sacrefices to te Sun (DS1 and Aztecs) or a Really Important King who gets to join the Sun God (DS2, DS3 and Egypt).
      The God/s of the Sun Keep Snakes and Monsters from creating an Era of Darkness and Chaos and the Cycle begins anew with a new Dawn. (Ironically Snakes and Dragons play a Prominent Role in all these but in the Aztecs Dragons are Good Gods while in Egypt they are either Good or Evil but the most Evil God was Apophis a Snake God.)
      On a Side Note A Sun in Aztec Mythology ment a New God has taken the Role and a New Cycle begins currently to the Aztecs we are in the 5th Cycle each Cycle ends very violently for the Aztecs with one ending because it rained Jaguars, and for some reason Humans become progressively Smaller.

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 Год назад

      @@yusukeelric its really similar to Aztec and Egyptian Mythologies, the Aztecs especially with DS1
      The way the Player and Solaire Fuel the Flame parallels Aztec Human Sacrificial beliefs, and the way the Aztecs view a Cycle of Suns/Sun Gods meaning a New Era and a New God taking up the role, Humans also become smaller and weaker progressively.

  • @UncrushableHope
    @UncrushableHope 4 месяца назад +10

    Let's not forget that he, perhaps, did find his own sun. If you save him from the maggot, he ends up helping you fight Gwyn. If you light the flame, the whole place becomes a blinding sun in its own right.

  • @hmstack6049
    @hmstack6049 3 года назад +141

    Just like Solaire in the better ending, he united his efforts with someone else, accepted their help, didn't he?

  • @Solibrae
    @Solibrae 3 года назад +101

    People's inspirations always shine through their creations. I hadn't thought of any strong connections between Hidetaka Miyazaki's background and Solaire before, but you've convinced me that such a thing was intentional.

  • @XrockinamadeusX
    @XrockinamadeusX 3 года назад +92

    Solaire will always be another adventurer to me. He's on his quest, we're on ours, and he's nice enough to help along the way.
    The fact that we can find him in the end makes me think if we fail to link the fire, he will always rise to relink once again. Finding his true sunlight in the flame.

    • @thebigenchilada678
      @thebigenchilada678 3 года назад +18

      He’s just that, I always found it funny how everyone thinks he’s a god or some shit when he’s just a goofy nobody that was probably made fun of for his jolly outlook, and homemade equipment back wherever it was that he’s from.
      He looks like one of the knights from Monty Python’s The Holy Grail.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius Год назад +4

      @@thebigenchilada678 He looks like divinity and great artistic skill.

    • @GutsmanLoL
      @GutsmanLoL Год назад

      @@Tasorius😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius Год назад +1

      @@thebigenchilada678 It was heavily implied that Solaire (sol heir) is the firstborn, but even if he is not, he is better than the random big Hollow in the DLC of DS3 who doesn't even have a name and could be anyone or no one.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius Год назад +1

      @@GutsmanLoL Praise the Sun! Y

  • @haseaopk
    @haseaopk 3 года назад +66

    So this has probably been said before, but is anyone familiar with Emperor Aurelian of Rome? He was known for (amongst other things) his reformation of the a cult know as the Cult Sol Invictus (unconquered sun), elevating the Sun God to the top of the pantheon but more importantly instilling the idea of being the best one can be and bringing out the best in others. They were also known to give out small medallions of the Sun God. One could call it a Sun (Light) Medallion

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 Год назад

      Any photos of the medallions?

  • @Hawkshaw
    @Hawkshaw  3 года назад +537

    Praise the Lore! We don't usually ask but please do show your support! Every like, comment and view is much appreciated and gets us that much closer to potentially accessing Elden Ring early to get some lore prepared for you guys.
    Hope the video helps the wait for Elden Ring!

    • @qarmatianwarhorse6028
      @qarmatianwarhorse6028 3 года назад +1

      Your vids are amazing. Ever since the Great Kentaro Miura departed this life for Eternity, it's been too painful to get back into either Berserk or Dark Souls. Perhaps your videos will eventually get me back into it...the manga was a beloved series for me and Dark Souls was just it being brought to life with a special spin.
      Thank you so much, greatly appreciate your work. Praise the Sun and don't you dare go Hollow!

    • @embodythejotun
      @embodythejotun 3 года назад +2

      Your vids are such a gift, thank you! 🙏

    • @Schwitzmaul
      @Schwitzmaul 3 года назад

      Your Vids are nice. But emotionally pumpt. I like some of ur thoughts even if they go far to wide in the realm of interpretation. We need to understand Solair? Oh boy it a half written Character with gabs so users can fill with theory that fits, but ur nor uncovrr the sevret history of rome and found some new fakt. Your interpreting not analysing. Do not get me wrong i like your Videos, but u getting to far with little proof. Yeah your theorie could fit and its posdible. But wether or not its in the end a fanboy video. But u could be more i think

    • @mattiasandersson8693
      @mattiasandersson8693 3 года назад

      Praise Hawkshaw and the sun. Love your lore videos

    • @sinjunmorris701
      @sinjunmorris701 3 года назад +2

      Praise the mother fucking sun. Never clicked so fast. I love Vatti like we all do. But you guys got your own sauce. Respect.

  • @ArcRay20
    @ArcRay20 3 года назад +2

    this is one of those "there happens to be a few too many comparatives to draw here" for one to not start to believe.

  • @michaelcullum7284
    @michaelcullum7284 3 года назад +133

    Man, the line "when it starts to get a bit harder to lose weight and the reality of time starts to show itself. He had done nothing up to this point..." really hits home with me. I'm almost 30, with a child on the way and it made me look over the decisions I've made in my life and it made me realize I've done nothing up to this point. I'm extremely happy and excited to be a father, but I feel that by the time she is old enough to understand I'll have nothing to show for it. Leading up to this point I've always lived by the tried and true method of do everything the safe and cautious way and it's led to a good, but not fulfilling life. It's why now I've decided to send my work to literary magazines and publishing companies so at the very least, if nothing comes of it, I can say with full certainty that I tried and will continue to try to put myself in situations that would be out of the norm as we see it or the social world states that we should live. The monotonous 9-5, big house, wife and 3 kids, a pool and a dog. I want to create lasting memories and something that I can say at the end of my life that I enjoyed.

    • @cazadora397
      @cazadora397 3 года назад +15

      This was a lovely read

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 2 года назад +7

      Seems like you've found the meaning of life. Whatever you make it. :)

    • @blazaybla22
      @blazaybla22 Год назад +5

      Not trying to give a lecture but for me, boring is not the worst it can get. I’m glad you found a healthy outlet but there are definitely lifestyles that people get drawn to basically out of boredom and wind up way worse than boring and comfortable. Boring and comfortable is a good place to start from, but it’s not the worst way to end up either. Just an alternate perspective. Again the great thing is you found a healthy route to fulfillment

    • @soup7850
      @soup7850 9 месяцев назад

      good for you man keep on keeping on

  • @javax6
    @javax6 3 года назад +79

    A truly genuine authentic take on Solaire, loved it.

  • @neosmith2589
    @neosmith2589 3 года назад +65

    In my interpretations solaire is such a transparent character who gets corrupted but the theme which he embodies makes him stand out. I'm very curious to learn a new perspective

  • @gabrielevaristo1758
    @gabrielevaristo1758 3 года назад +88

    OMG HE'S BACK, PRAISE THE LORE \[T]/

  • @bunk-o2495
    @bunk-o2495 3 года назад +17

    I never gave Solaire's lore too much thought tbh, I mostly saw him as an npc stand in for multi player encounters, in part just so that there would be always be help avaliable even once the game had aged. but also to emulate that importance of connection that lead fromsoft to include those mechanics in the first place.
    He's likelable, reliable, and there with you the entire step of the way. and you can save him, the same way he's saved you.

  • @sunlightblade6145
    @sunlightblade6145 3 года назад +6

    Bro you're serious a new Hawkshaw lore vid on ds1 i'm SO excited

  • @ADin-yq7gl
    @ADin-yq7gl 3 года назад +20

    This video can't start any sooner. So glad that you guys are back.

  • @jamesmiller9923
    @jamesmiller9923 3 года назад +3

    You know it's a good dark souls video when it opens up with ambient Hollow Knight music playing

  • @austinneesmith1811
    @austinneesmith1811 Год назад +7

    I always thought Solaire was there to let new players know it’s okay to stop and enjoy the scenery. That in this dark world where almost everything wants you dead there’s still extreme beauty and it’s okay to take a break from the overwhelming darkness and enjoy it

  • @ElChelikesAudi
    @ElChelikesAudi 3 года назад +38

    This video message couldn't come at a more important time in my life. I have lost so much in last 2 year including my baby brother. But if it wasn't for my loved ones and friends who came to my aid and more importantly refused to allow me to fall into despair I don't know where i'll be. You can do alone but it best together as a group. May we all shine in bright gold! Praise the Sun!

  • @Blacksochs
    @Blacksochs 3 года назад +5

    I'm still in the camp of Solaire being John Darksoul cosplaying a sunbro

  • @mattsmith7962
    @mattsmith7962 3 года назад +18

    Honestly so hyped for you guys to start making stuff again, idk what it is about this channel but I have such a deep love for everything you've made and I can't wait for more. Praise the lore!!!

  • @theultimatetactician1712
    @theultimatetactician1712 3 года назад +16

    No way, this cannot be! Is this more dark souls lore from Hawkshaw? I'm so happy.

  • @ademasdanjuro
    @ademasdanjuro 3 года назад +6

    I cannot wait any longer, ypu have the best souls videos on the market

  • @The_Fat_Turtle
    @The_Fat_Turtle 3 года назад +155

    You get the opportunity to save Solaire by using 30 Humanity's, I wonder how many people were on the Demon's Souls development team?

    • @dynamicflashy
      @dynamicflashy 3 года назад +20

      Woah. That's a cool observation.

    • @chall3ng33v3rything
      @chall3ng33v3rything 3 года назад +2

      Would you care to explain?

    • @wabbit2099
      @wabbit2099 3 года назад +117

      FromSoftware started Demon’s Souls with 70 people but ended with 40 after 30 people were killed and fed to a spider demon about halfway through development. I think you might be onto something!!

    • @The_Fat_Turtle
      @The_Fat_Turtle 3 года назад +41

      @@chall3ng33v3rything In the game, you can give 30 humanity's to the Fair Lady at the end of Blighttown and before Demon Ruins. This allows you to access a shortcut to Lost Izalith early, but also gives you the chance to kill the chaos bug that infects Solaire and causes him to attack you, allowing Solaire to survive and finish the game.
      So my little hypothetical theory is that maybe the Demon's Souls team may have been a core group of 30 people who helped Miyazaki find his true calling in game development.
      So if Solaire is a representation of Miyazaki, then maybe there's something interesting in the way you save Solaire in game that relates to MIyazaki in his real life. That's all my original post was postulating.

    • @jasonscherer1131
      @jasonscherer1131 3 года назад +14

      @@The_Fat_Turtle Miyazaki was at the age of 29/30, when he starts in the team for Demons Souls. Maybe one Soul for every year after changing his life.

  • @rymccann5780
    @rymccann5780 3 года назад +6

    Aw hawkshaw is back fucking sweet

  • @F_Franz
    @F_Franz 3 года назад +14

    Last week a friend of mine decided he want's to play the first Dark Souls 1 and I volunteered to help if he needs it, but I was not really that into going back to Lordran. This video re-ignited my will to play. Of course it would be the lore that would bring me back. Praise the lore and, in this case, praise the symbolism.
    Good to see my favorite lore channel coming back to give another gift to us! Much love!

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse 2 года назад

      Is there a second Dark Souls 1?

  • @Top_Hat_Walrus
    @Top_Hat_Walrus 9 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting to learn how Ico was the game that inspired Miazaki to quit his boring office job. I started playing it in december last year and for personal reasons it has become a very special game to me

  • @StrayCatAnimations
    @StrayCatAnimations 3 года назад +83

    I'm gonna be honest, I initially rolled my eyes when you said that Solair is Miyezaki, but I gotta say, I was really turned around as you went in depth on them. Great video!

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse 2 года назад

      Solaire*, Miyazaki*

    • @LoverofChildren
      @LoverofChildren 2 года назад +1

      If you rolled your eyes before even opening the video, the future doesn't look awfully positive for you

  • @thaneofwhiterun3562
    @thaneofwhiterun3562 3 года назад +5

    And just as I finish studying you give me content to glue my attention to!? Thanks m8s!

  • @Mikethehamham
    @Mikethehamham 3 года назад +5

    I've waited wayyyy too long for a new Hawkshaw dark souls lore video.
    My body is ready

  • @tbs4liiife
    @tbs4liiife 2 года назад +2

    Holy shit balls when did this channel pop back up? So good to see more content, your work is really appreciated

  • @zennim125
    @zennim125 3 года назад +27

    and just to top it off, to save solaire you have to enter a covenant behind an illusory wall and put of lot of humanity in it to open a door that will have the maggot
    it is almost impossible to know that on your first playthrough, that is something that you learn from someone elsea
    it is the community that saves solaire, it is word of mouth that made demon souls successful enough to earn an spiritual sequel in dark souls

    • @rager4500
      @rager4500 2 года назад +2

      There is a way around it and it’s quite easy actually. You get poison mist, go as against the door as you can and spray it. The mist will get the maggot and solaire is saved. It’s not 100% consistent but it’s pretty reliable and saves a lot of time

  • @ordinaryadonis8711
    @ordinaryadonis8711 3 года назад +3

    Thought you were done making vids for DS! Glad you made this.

  • @Reliken
    @Reliken 3 года назад +3

    10:04, you said what I was hoping you were going to say, and dropped an absolutely unexpected gem of a music track from something that could not be more different from Dark Souls. A+ moment.

  • @monthc
    @monthc 3 года назад +1

    >Clicks on Dark Souls lore video
    >Hollow Knight soundtrack
    I love it every time, and I will always comment when it happens. Two of the best games ever made.

  • @Ayahuasca98
    @Ayahuasca98 3 года назад +64

    Solaire is the chosen undead and we were his friend

  • @zombietoothache
    @zombietoothache 3 года назад +1

    Dude, I got some dumb ads on this video but your video was worth it. 10/10

  • @Biomechanic2010
    @Biomechanic2010 3 года назад +8

    I cry every time. Sincerely. Solaire is my favorite character ever and its probably a symptom of being so simple to protect onto. I know that madness- trying to find your own sun. Since then, I've got like 3 shirts and a sweatshirt from etsy with him on it, and my brilliant orange cat is named Solaire- because if only we could be so grossly incandescent.

  • @GraySilhouette
    @GraySilhouette 3 года назад +15

    I’m just gonna go ahead and preemptively like this video.

  • @rflessati
    @rflessati 3 года назад +4

    Nice one. Can't believe its been 10 years...at some point, after countless hours in Lordran running through the game, getting lost in the depths, praying for summoning to work, trying to backstab invaders in the forest, anor londo, tomb of the giants without light , figuring out how to kill bed of chaos, trying to save Solaire...Every DS player felt he was Solaire at some point.

  • @yle_coyote4178
    @yle_coyote4178 2 года назад +1

    I love the use of The Greenpath music for the intro. Great video!

  • @frasler1
    @frasler1 3 года назад +14

    Holy crap, this was an awesome surprise! Can't wait!

  • @ekanimeandmanga9311
    @ekanimeandmanga9311 3 года назад +11

    I'm so excited for this video, literally cannot wait to watch to it!

  • @Lautrekc
    @Lautrekc 3 года назад +13

    Extremely interesting and thought video.
    I'd just like to interject on the demon's souls success.
    It didn't flop in japan, it was a success in Japan for its budget and expectations, they did make money.
    The word of mouth then made atlus distribute it in the US.
    I can't remember who published in europe but US and Europe the game was a monetary success as well.
    Nothing at the scale of the dark souls games, but he wouldn't have made another souls if he flopped.

  • @keen96
    @keen96 3 года назад +2

    tries not to cry, cries anyway.

  • @Writh811
    @Writh811 3 года назад +21

    This was an amazing video but it has actually convinced me that Miyazaki's story plays out more in the Chosen Undead. The Undead Asylum we start in, his prior coding job. Then one day inspiration seems to fall from the heavens. He passes through the narrow corridors of workspaces towards the exit until he reaches the foyer of the building to leave for the last time. It must have been terrifying, like facing down a huge monster that seemingly will make you stay.
    He breaks into the world and is tasked with ringing the bells of awakening. Ring a bells is not a prestigious or glorious task but it is something we have to do, something he had to do to get on track. Along the way he would, like anyone make friends (firelink buddies including Solaire) who help him along the way and he helped them. Some of them may have left him with new knowledge and inspirations. He reaches the top of the mountain, Anor Londo/Demon Souls. At first it felt awe inspiring, we/he had made it this far. But if you looked close Anor Londo/Demon Souls was not the perfect heaven and be it by the order of a goddess or the failings in the market place, we/he must leave. From there where do we go? A to dark, depressing, hellish places, and a library. We gather what is precious from these places the feelings, the lessons, the experiences and we sally forth. We face down Lord Gwyn/ he faces down the expectations of his superiors within the company. And we link the flame/and he makes Dark Souls.
    Of course this narrative could be considered vague or assuming too much at the same time but I think that just makes it Dark Souls lol.

    • @mangomoe7347
      @mangomoe7347 3 года назад +1

      I really like this interpretation. The chosen undead could also be us and Solaire is Miyazaki saying he has gone on a similar journey and people will help us on it. I wonder who Miyazaki's Oscar of Astora was?

    • @RabidlyTaboo
      @RabidlyTaboo 3 года назад

      Personally i think we are the sun maggots. because we latch onto peoples heads.

  • @tategarringer
    @tategarringer 3 года назад +1

    So glad to have more lore videos. Sidenote, had to go and listen to the whole Outer Wilds OST again when I heard Andrew Prahlow's "Timber Hearth" start playing at 10:04.

  • @aidenarkham
    @aidenarkham 3 года назад +3

    This almost brought me to tears, especially when the shadow of the colossus music played @22:00 amazing job.

  • @Ars_Fabula_TTRPG
    @Ars_Fabula_TTRPG 2 года назад +2

    I can't emphasize more just how much Dark Souls has changed my life. Prior to playing DS3 in late 2016 I was pretty miserable in my personal life and I didn't have much ambition. The mechanic of reviving after death, only to die again or perhaps succeed, helped me begin overcoming my fear of failure. I was a "gifted and talented" student since 5th grade and I was so paralyzed by the fear of failure I held myself back. I'm still working on this nearly 5 years later but the franchise reminds me to get back up again and again and to listen more than I speak. It's when we listen that the clues to success are given. Thank you for this speculation video. I feel even more connection to the work now.

  • @bruoche
    @bruoche 3 года назад +10

    I'm so used to be late to the party whe it come to souls lore that I felt betrayed when saw the vid's not out yet...
    Defently hyped to see it when it's out

  • @QS2435
    @QS2435 2 года назад +3

    Really amazing video Hawkshaw!

  • @benval687
    @benval687 3 года назад +3

    tears in the eyes.. amazing vid!

  • @sirexilon49
    @sirexilon49 3 года назад +10

    The thumbnail sais secret identity: Solaire is Gwyns firstborn confirmed!

  • @GladlyOnXbox
    @GladlyOnXbox 3 года назад +2

    i think this is one of the best dark souls lore videos iv ever seen, the amount of effort, detail, the story, it was a great christmas to be a subscriber.

  • @AxelEsan1323
    @AxelEsan1323 3 года назад +3

    This makes so much sense and it really was a treat to have just a pinch more lore from one of my favorite lore channel's of all time.

  • @stringbones9360
    @stringbones9360 2 года назад +2

    How am I supposed to understand this when I'm crying to the Outer Wilds music?

  • @MrJazzyPants
    @MrJazzyPants 3 года назад +7

    So with this idea of Solaire, I'm now thinking heavy on what deeper meaning Artorious might have. How Arty boy gets all the credit for something he leads the charge on but doesn't finish on his own, maybe even falling into disparity and hopelessness but then for those around you who also believe in seeing it through for whatever reason to help finish the job. It was your mission, you started the fight, but if not for others to join your fight it wouldnt have happened. Also if you think of sif as a metaphor for undying love to an art form the same as undying love for a dog, it pushes that idea. Even if im completely off or this video, I love that dark souls can provoke this amount of analysis. Even if none of it was meant we still can get these beautiful ideas from it

    • @thebigenchilada678
      @thebigenchilada678 3 года назад

      It’s a meta commentary on dark souls itself, Arty IS dark souls, he gets all the praise for the actions we as players did, IE dark souls wouldn’t exist without us as Fromsoft was sort of in shit’s creek pre DS1, how wholesome.
      But for real he was just a cool berserk reference.

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse 2 года назад

      Artorias*

  • @madowpoawdpj
    @madowpoawdpj 2 года назад +1

    shoulda called it prepare to cry, it's such a beautiful read on the character!

  • @Mason_____
    @Mason_____ 3 года назад +5

    It’s simple, Solaire is John Dark Soul, the protagonist of Dark Souls

  • @towelie5127
    @towelie5127 3 года назад +2

    man ... that berserk music gets me every single time.

  • @FrostfireGaming1134
    @FrostfireGaming1134 3 года назад +5

    I was just thinking how I would love more of your videos!

  • @erricro3198
    @erricro3198 2 года назад +1

    This video man, this is something that i completely agree with. Your viewpoint shows wisdom and truth. Loved the video

  • @jamesowens6241
    @jamesowens6241 3 года назад +3

    What a way to start the morning. I needed this on a deep level. It's hard seeing everyone else with their suns, and being stuck in the trappings that you discuss here. Those trappings can lead one to some strange place where they go mad with delusion. Diligence, hard work, and clarity are what's needed. And some self confidence. Sigh. Thank you man. Of course the lore is appreciated, but your wisdom behind it is appreciated much much more. Thank you.

    • @justkosmo6806
      @justkosmo6806 3 года назад +2

      don't give up, skeleton! :)

    • @jamesowens6241
      @jamesowens6241 3 года назад +1

      @@justkosmo6806 thank you, fellow skeleton. Keep on keeping on

  • @nathanlockhart3876
    @nathanlockhart3876 2 года назад +2

    I’m most amazed at hearing outer wilds music in a dark souls video. Day made.

  • @SpockShirtleB3rri3s
    @SpockShirtleB3rri3s 3 года назад +10

    I’m gonna be honest I watch that plot against the gods video all the time, I one thousand percent ADORE how you approach interpreting lore and I couldn’t have dreamed of a topic I’d want you to cover more than Solaire

  • @Spectrik
    @Spectrik 3 года назад +3

    I've waited so long for this one and I'm so glad in here to see it

  • @neverlonging
    @neverlonging 3 года назад +5

    Oh my! Praise the sun!!! the best lore channel has returned!!!
    You have no idea how much more I've loved the games after your videos, making so much more sense of what we know and extrapolating so much more info that we as players aren't aware of.
    So happy you returned, keep em coming!

  • @voxstelarum
    @voxstelarum 3 года назад +1

    So happy you guys are back

  • @karozoronah146
    @karozoronah146 3 года назад +10

    Masterpiece as always, and that's quite a refreshing thought! After watching the video, somehow I think introducing Solarie to the game is the reason From remove Oscar's quest line. They both serve as a fellow of the player, but rather to only be gloomy Solarie's quest also teaches the player a life lesson, a lesson past Miyazaki couldn't have. Bring your own failure into your work requires absolute courage, but when you did, you grew.

  • @matiasfernandez5635
    @matiasfernandez5635 3 года назад +1

    Im so glad you guys are uploding content again! Great as always.

  • @Spazzterz323
    @Spazzterz323 3 года назад +5

    Goes to show just how much love was put in this game, making me wanna play it all over again

  • @BlazeStorm
    @BlazeStorm 3 года назад +12

    I remember seeing a video (I believe by The Ashen Hollow) showing how Solaire is actually a really self centered character ("This is my sun, get your own" [paraphrased]), despite his reputation in the community.
    I'm very curious how this video will look at him

  • @theultimatetactician1712
    @theultimatetactician1712 3 года назад +15

    Yo Hawkshaw I just wanted to say that your lore videos are the best. like vaati, silver mont, smoughtown, mitch l, the ashen hollow and all the other ones are really good, but you really are top notch. I'm really sad that everyone is moving on from ds lore but it was to be expected with elden ring coming out. I'm just sad there is so much stuff that never ended up being thoroughly explained in ds lore. I would just like to say thank you so much for making more lore. You are truly grossly incandescent.

  • @triplebog
    @triplebog 3 года назад +1

    Dang that Timber Hearth theme kick in is perfect

  • @MalarkySparky
    @MalarkySparky 3 года назад +6

    Figuring it may have to do with the nameless king being his teacher or even father
    Edit:
    Welp I am wildly corrected and made a new comment

  • @charmygreen665
    @charmygreen665 2 года назад +1

    You make the best souls content. Guts' theme really brings it lol

  • @philippehenri740
    @philippehenri740 2 года назад +3

    I swear, Guts' theme fits with literally everything souls-related, that ending gave me shivers

  • @182Harding
    @182Harding 3 года назад +1

    One of the channels where I like the video before I even watch it. Bravo!

  • @MonsterZero96
    @MonsterZero96 3 года назад +7

    15:50 "Dark Souls is extremely polished."
    Dark souls is a lot of really amazing, and inspiring things... I would not say that "polished" is one of those things. Especially in the latter half. Incredible? Yes. Ambitious? Absolutely. But polished? No way

    • @NoLifeKing_0
      @NoLifeKing_0 3 года назад +1

      Definitely not, but you can tell the intent is there. I would describe it more as intricate then polished.

    • @MonsterZero96
      @MonsterZero96 3 года назад

      @@NoLifeKing_0 I definitely agree. It's my favorite game of all time, after all

  • @iRebbus
    @iRebbus 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic! Just the video I’ve searched for the last months trying to avoid Elden Ring spoilers.

  • @Magnymbus
    @Magnymbus 3 года назад +5

    Honestly, this theory is more emotionally compelling than most Solaire theories.

  • @rosslavery7522
    @rosslavery7522 3 года назад +2

    Seeing another video pop up has brightened my day!

  • @caseyclark5174
    @caseyclark5174 3 года назад +7

    I always assumed similarly that 'the sun' was metaphorical and represented dreams etc too but I thought it was just another Berserk reference similarly to how Guts left the band of the hawk then came back realizing they were what he was dreaming of/searching for all along fitting the cooperation theme still... but seeing how much Berserk means to miyazaki it's entirely possible that it's one of the things that helped him realize this for himself too.

  • @BuckBumble8
    @BuckBumble8 3 года назад +2

    Another fantastic video!!! Keep up the good work my friend

  • @oloxhossono1956
    @oloxhossono1956 3 года назад +10

    i truly wonder what goes on in the depths of Miyazaki’s mind, how he feels about himself and his accomplishments, if he truly creates these worlds from his own unique hardships and struggles. I would love to just talk with him

  • @rescuehamster1734
    @rescuehamster1734 3 года назад +1

    Man, this made me tear up. Great work with this.

  • @HoiPolloiNtertains
    @HoiPolloiNtertains 3 года назад +4

    The one and only RUclips video I’ve ever set a reminder for and RUclips didn’t even notify me. 😒
    Absolutely love your videos. You bring such depth and quality to the souls lore community. They feel like historical documents rather than video game lore videos. 10/10. Always hoping for more in the future.

  • @jadeimingan184
    @jadeimingan184 3 года назад +1

    Makes me think because of this video that Solaire is a concept and that in a crazy way, the sun in the sky is Solaire

  • @andrewvisser5409
    @andrewvisser5409 3 года назад +4

    Awesome job, I love Miyazaki and really relate to his journey. Thank you for this!

  • @Biobillybonez
    @Biobillybonez 3 года назад +1

    Miyasaki as he sees himself: Solaire
    Miyasaki as the players see him: Patches