It’s great how the writers show Daniel slowly changing his philosophy on both karate and what he’s learned about Miyagido. He starting to realize that he equally needs offense and defense. Combining His teachings from Miyagi and Johnny. I can’t wait to see them expand on this with Chosen in season 5.
Daniel never said he was a hot head, Silver said that as an excuse for how he trained him. And when Daniel was angry he had every right to be angry with all the crap going on.
, Johnny pushed Daniel down at the beach, he broke Ali's ghetto blaster, Daniel had no idea who Johnny was and that he and Ali used to date, he was trying to protect Ali from thugs. Also Daniel had been tripped twice as he tried to run at Johnny during the confrontation, The "cheap" shot was Daniel defending himself.
I feel that perhaps Mr. Miyagi held back the full Miyagido teaching for Daniel, because perhaps Mr. Miyagi used it in the war, maybe he was protecting Daniel from going full Miyagido for his protection so he wouldn't kill anyone.
I like how this last season made him have to take a hit to his ego by showing him he doesn't know whats best for everyone or that he isn't always right.. I guess to put it best, Daniel's being the main character in the KK series turns into main character syndrome in the actual world and now his world view is being challenged
I think Sam is the same way. The way she literally used what Aisha said about befriending someone she didn't like to further terrorize someone she didn't like.
I agree. It was better to learn defense in his case because Daniel would have probably harm his enemies on purpose if he had learned the Cobra Kai style of karate. If you are already one way, it is good to learn another way so that you are a fuller person. It is also possible that Mr. Myagi was mainly taught the defensive version of Myiagi by his father, and not the aggressive parts. I wonder if it will turn out that Cobra Kai is actually a branch of the aggressive version of Myiagi-Do. That would be a cool twist. The only things we know about the origins of Cobra Kai are that John Kreese was taught it by his superior in the army via flashbacks, and what Terry Silver said in Karate Kid III; an elusive sensai from (presumably) South Korea. But it's Terry Silver, so it could all be bs.
This exactly! Daniel was a hothead because, he didnt have a father figure before, Mr Miyagi. Johnny had a terrible father figure in Kreese. Daniel and Johnny are two sides if the same coin. One is controlled, the other chaos. One is rigid, the other flexible. Each characters represent Ying and Yang. All the characters reflect each other in a push and pull. It's very smart that they repeat this theme and do it effectively.
Except he doesn't. Johnny strikes first with words all the time. People just ignore it because they're biased in favor of him or think it's funny when he's an asshole. But when the nice guy dares to say something mean, then it's justification to punch him.
@@PiecefulKaos It was Daniel's mockery of Johnny, him raising of the rent in the supermall, him founding Miyagi-Do by attacking Cobra Kai in public via commercial, and him fermenting hatred towards Cobra Kai within his students, that started the dojo war to begin with. This whole dojo war was Daniel's fault.
The BIGGEST thing people overlook is back in The Karate Kid. Despite a few lessons at the Y, and a book, Miyagi wasn't Daniel's first stop to learn Karate... It was Cobra Kai. The only thing that stopped him was seeing Johnny. In another universe Danie would of easily joined Kreese's Cobra Kai when he moved to California & he would of been a perfect fit.
WOW, you are totally correct. Daniel was trained by Miyagi but he has some of Kreese and Silver traits. He used manipulation and money to mess with Jonny's dojo in season 1 and also went to a rival car dealer to threaten him and kicked the drink out his hand. Jonny was trained by Crees but he backed off from fighting Daniel in season two and told Miguel to show mercy.
Although Daniel didn’t know Mr Miyagi was a karateka at the time, Daniel would’ve fitted right in with John Kreese. Daniel was a hot headed kid, who was quick to anger, not afraid to use violence and didn’t have a father figure to guide him in life. If Johnny trained at say Locust Valley Karate Club, Daniel would totally have become a Cobra.
@@PoisonousPen Daniels mom cleary states after he goes to croba kai that they couldnt afford cobra kai anyways!! It was too expensive for Daniels mom to pay for
The main problem I have with Daniel is how self righteous he is. He thinks he karate or his method is the only way. He was the first to insinuate that he should take over both schools in season 4
@@mambalevel1017 The real redeeming moment was when he told Hawk to use everything he learned from Cobra Kai to go on the offensive. That was Daniel showing that he had accepted that his own system was not the only viable system.
I’ve just had a thought: there were two signs, first one said ‘karate for defence only’ and the 2nd one was ‘see rule 1’. But really if may have been: ‘if a situation demands it, strike first and take your enemy out before they have a chance’ but Miyagi didn’t let him in on this as he didn’t think he was ready. But the rule was there all along.
The other main problem with Daniel is that he is very hypocritical and quick to assume the worst in people. Daniel was holding a grudge against Johnny for 30 years, but Daniel went through a lot worse with Chozen and Terry Silver. He was also very quick to get angry with Johnny, when half the time it’s the students acting out on their own against Myiagi do ( Johnny actually punished his students for bad behaviour) . If Daniel left Johnny alone in the first place, cobra kai would’ve closed a long time ago.
Didn't Kreese find out about Cobra Kai because of the tournament? I think if Daniel was successful in stopping Cobra Kai in season 1, then it would probably solved most of the dilemmas in the show.
@@sbfb242 Daniel’s grudge against Johnny is 90% of the problem!! . In the very first episode of the show, Daniel practically bragged about kicking Johnny in the face 30 years ago in front of everyone. Which gave Johnny extra motivation to re open cobra Kai. When Daniel found out about the dojo re opening, he did everything in his power to close it instead of leaving Johnny alone. If Daniel wasn’t at the tournament meeting in season one, the committee would’ve turned down the dojo to enter the competition. Johnny wasn’t even Daniels biggest bully!!! Chozen tried to kill Daniel and Terry silver is a sociopath, so his anger towards Johnny is extremely unnecessary.
There's just one puzzle piece missing for Daniel in all this, self-awareness. That's one of the reasons I think Johnny is for many fans the more sympathetic character. He has his own flaws that still need a lot of work, but he was also the first one to recognize that. From the beginning Daniel would blame himself sometimes when things went wrong, but in a "Oh, I failed, I was righteous but my righteousness wasn't enough to solve the problem" type of attitude. He's made progress though, especially toward the end of season 3, but still has a ways to go. I'm interested to see how this turns out by the end.
Eh I prefer Daniel. Much more realistic. Especially for a hot head trying to adhere to only 1 set of rules that so far has never led them astray. He really struggled with letting his sensei’s teachings go. He thinks it’s the only right why because his sensei is his hero. Idk if you watch anime but it gives me deku and all might vibes (from my hero academia)
@@JulyIzHere Realistic, yes. That's actually one of the things that makes him so realistic. How many people are there in this world that have their own flaws that they need to work on? Or that are so quick to point out other people's shortcomings while having such a hard time recognizing their own?
Exactly. They're both flawed, but Johnny is the one who actively tries to grow and become a better person. Whereas Daniel is so self-righteous that he doesn't even notice how much of a dickhead he can be. Only when his wife (bless her heart) points it out does he notice he did something wrong, but then he learns nothing from it. Zero self-awareness.
Daniel and Johnny both think they are right and neither of what they say or do is wrong when it is supposed to be used against Cobra Kai, I really love that dynamic between them because it shows how they similar more than they think.
Well I mean Johnny unlike Daniel will actually admit to being wrong or that he needs to learn Daniel atleast to me always seems like he was the actual bully. I mean at the end of the first movie Johnny even brought Daniel the trophy an told him he was great. That's something alot of people never talk about. Not saying Johnny wasn't an asshole but watching this an then watching the movies again Daniel seems to instigate it from the start. But I get what you're saying lol
Cause he is. He’s never admitted he threw the first punch between him and Johnny like how he never has admitted he tried to embarrass the Cobra Kai guy at the school dance by setting them.
I enjoyed watching the series but never understood why Daniel couldn't let his past go. He became a successful business owner, has a beautiful family. He won in life. Pursuing these childhood vendetta was completely pointless and made no sense. Let it go and live your life...
He really doesn’t understand boundaries very well. Miyagi walked him into Cobra Kai AFTER Daniel had been repeatedly jumped. Daniel walked in CK BEFORE Johnnys first student had even learned to kick. The raising the rent thing was just wrong. You just don’t go messing with peoples livelihoods like that while still trying to claim the moral high ground. Daniel should have waited until Kreese came back before he started his crusade. Miyagi was clear in his teaching. Johnny wasn’t bad. Kreese was. Daniel should have given Johnny a chance to prove that his CK was different.
@@Saturn-pt1gn of course I do. From a group of guys that are all gone with the exception of 1 that were being taught by 2 guys that weren’t even around at the time and the one guy still left has flushed his life down the toilet to the point where he fixed his car for him out of pity. If he had named it Eagle Fang from the start, Daniel would have done the same thing. Who is Daniel to play God with Johnnys chance at making a living because he’s still pissed over events that took place 35 years ago. I applauded Daniel and Miyagi for getting CK shut down in the 80s, but Johnny wasn’t even given a chance and I do believe that had Kreese not showed up that he fully planned on reigning in Hawk and Miguel after their actions at the tournament.
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 so if he had decided he wasn’t cool with Chozen taking over Miyagi Do and started trying to sabotage his dojo and life in general it would be ok? Chozen was far nastier with him than Johnny was. Let say fir the sake of argument that Daniel left Okinawa directly after his first meeting with Chozen in the bar and Chozen didn’t get the chance to let Daniel know he was just joking with his demeanor. In Daniels mind mind Chozen is still an asshole. The same guy from 35 years ago.
Many real life Okinawan masters did not subscribe to karate having different styles. They are simply vehicles for offense or defense depending on the situation. The show seems to be leaning on this and these sensais learning these lessons for themselves. Certain characters have been able to blend the styles seemlessly and they do so when they choose to listen to their cumulative self vs one dojo or another. Robby, Sam, Miguel and later Hawk and Daniel figure it out. Daniel forgets Miyagi didn't take any shit. He will stand his moral ground and not care if it starts a fight. He will warn the other person and let them know he prefers not to fight but when they don't listen...well sorry for ya.
Reminds me of the movie Kuro Obi. One student gets told to only use defense, the other only uses offense. Then they bitterly fight over who is the successor.
Daniels biggest problem is he always believes that his opinion is the right one and everything Johnny does is wrong because it is Cobra Kai even after Johnny leaves and starts Eagle Fang I Hope in season 5 he learns from these mistakes and improves with Chozen now teaming up with him super excited can’t wait for season 5 now
Although Daniel has been taught to be defensive by Miyagi, he's personality is offensive like Cobra Kai. Jonny Laurence was taught to fight offensive by Kreese but he's personality is becoming more fight in defence only, principals of Miyagi. Like when Daniel challenged Jonny Laurence in season two at the dojo and Jonny said he won't fight him. Same like when Sato challenged Miyagi and Miyagi said no.
Daniel yes but johnny no. He literally goes by strike first in everything he does. Not sure what scene in season 2 youre talking about but either way one scene doesnt define his personality
@@georockmann7113 bro, Jonny told Miguel to show mercy and that Miguel should not be like him but be better than him and win in life. Daniel went to a rival car dealer to kick a drink out his hand as a threat. Daniel also attacked Jonny when Sam was at he's apartment after Jonny told Him to first calm down. Jonny only strikes first when there's no other choice.
@@adhdmed I really have no idea why you insist on your claim so much even tough it clearly isnt like that. I can see it with daniel but with johnny its one hell of a reach. Not picking senseless fights all the time doesnt mean he has a defensive personality. He didnt wanted to fight daniel when hawk stole the medal simply because he knew it was wrong. And he wanted daniel to calm down at his apartment for sams sake. He simply has no defensive personality like you say
Daniel Hot head taught to be calm, but fights with his emotions Johnny Introverted taught to be aggressive, yet fights with his emotions. Balance Daniel and Johnny combining what they've learned. Two opposites with an element of each other inherent within them. Ai ki The harmonised spirit.
@@YuuSHiiiN But it has to begin with Daniel and Johnny. There are no bad students, only bad teachers. A good teacher knows their limitations and always questions their art.
@@tonyhudson8235 That's not exactly the point I was making. I was implying that Both Johnny and Daniel are hard-headed and largely stuck in their ways. However, by season 4, you do see Miguel and Sam trying to bring both together and coming into their own with elements of both. Robbie is also doing the same(in his own way). So in many ways, the younger generation are bringing about the The harmonized spirit.
Ai ki do (aikido): The way of harmony. This is spiritually what they're aspiring to. Any martial artist would benefit greatly from the philosophical aspect of aikido.
Daniel's problem is associative regression. He refuses to see the change in Johnny, later in Terry Silver. He reverts back to being a teenager and can't seem to stop going to war with Cobra Kai. In essence, his conflicts are self-fulfilling prophecies and, in a way, he's the real antagonist of the series.
@Jason Dyrkacz true, but I don't think it's an act in the show. I think Terry really did bury that side of himself. We're all capable of growth and change. But at the end of the day, we're all capable of backsliding.
It’s my opinion that the entire show is a representation of the yin and yang concept. Cobra Kai is hard and violent while Miyagi do is softer focusing more on peace and harmony. All of the movies did the same but the show is doing something different. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that this is the story of how the two finally join together as one. Instead of being two opposing forces, the two will learn that both philosophies can coexist and compliment each other. It’ll work out in the end.
I also think that Miyagi-do was not as soft or focusing on peace and harmony as Daniel thinks that it was. I think that Miyagi purposefully over emphasized those aspects in order to counter Daniel's natural aggressiveness and temper and maybe also because of his experiences with war and losing his family. After all, in the movie Daniel was far from introverted or shy. He was outgoing and a little hot headed. I think Daniel would have fit into Cobra Kai very well actually, if circumstances had been different.
The point from which the show started is that from Johnny's pov, Daniel was/is the bully, while from Daniel's, he gained confidence because of karate and what Miyagi taught him, but he never let go what Johnny did to him and how scared he felt at first. So Daniel's initial instinct, was always to fight Johnny in the same Cobra Kai style, it was Miyagi who shaped him not to, but we can see even in his kids, the nature is there to also be the bullies, and if there is not a strong figure like Miyagi was to Daniel, they can go to that path too and Daniel is so into showing he is right to everyone else, that he is not paying attention on what is going on with his own kids. So the entire concept of the show is great, even if some storylines come across as soap operas, because no one is completely bad or completely good in it and it is great in the way that is shows that it is all a matter of perspectives.
The problem with both is that they’re so similar. They’re each other’s Jungian Shadows. They subconsciously recognize all the things about themselves that they dislike in each other and it pisses them off. That’s why they alternate from close to being best friends to absolutely hating each other, because they’re essentially looking into a mirror, and how they feel about each other depends on how they feel about themselves at that moment.
@Justin Gary You're wrong. Daniel trashed Johnny's reputation in season 1 when he went to the dojo the first time. So... Lies. Also, another clear difference between the two. When Johnny found out Miguel was dating Sam, he told Miguel his feelings about Daniel and that's it. He didn't forbid him from dating her, he let him decide for himself. When Daniel found out, he strictly forbid Sam from dating a Cobra Kai.
For the most part. All the problems in the show would be solved if Daniel wasn’t so antagonistic towards Johnny. The guy opened Cobra Kai to give strength to kids (and also to beat people’s ass) whereas Daniel opened Miyagi Do purely to combat Cobra Kai who did nothing to him??? He never gave Johnny Cobra Kai a chance
1:20-1:27 Daniel pouring water on Johnny’s head was not a first strike. He did that after 3 defeats: getting beat up at the beach, getting tripped over at a soccer try out (Johnny telling his buddy to get at Daniel), and finally getting thrown over with his bike over a hill. All what he did was fight back. When Daniel and Johnny first encountered at the beach, Johnny threw Ali’s radio and Daniel was only trying to help out by picking it up and giving it back to Ali but Johnny snatched it off his hands rudely and then shoves it back to Daniel knocking him on the floor. Daniel wasn’t going to take that; well WHO ELSE would?! Would you??!! He gets back up and lunged at Johnny twice and trips him twice, Johnny roundhouses him on the stomach knocking off the wind out of him AND THEN SUCKER PUNCHES him. I mean, that’s being a hot head hitting FIRST. That’s a hot head hitting 4th!! Not to mention getting 3 more freaking hits and get knocked out.
Exactly I lose it when people start that “Johnny good, Daniel bully” crap when a brief rewatch of the beach clip shows Daniel trying to be cool and calm everyone down and Johnny being a straight asshole. Like I like Johnny just as much as the next guy. I don’t hate his character or have anything against him but let’s be real here from the moment he rolled up on that beach he was a complete aggressor.
Yes! Precisely! Johnny was the aggressor, they just want to pull the victim card for Johnny. However I also like Johnny as the next guy. The real hot head is Johnny, not to mention that he’s the one who said that being in Cobra Kai is all about being bad ass. And let’s not forget, isn’t Cobra Kai’s motto: Strike FIRST, strike hard, no mercy.?
One thing I didn't get about Daniel is that despite being a successful car salesman, he has always failed to convince people his point. He failed to convince the danger Cobra Kai poses to Amanda and his family, to the tournament committee and to the parents.
He forgot to mention the worst thing Daniel did to Johnny in that first movie besides cheap at the tournament when he doused him with water he ruined a perfectly good batch of weed that he was rolling up. Now that is a crime against humanity.
Miyagi didnt need to teach him the agressive side because Daniel was already a hot head and easy to anger.....thats why he only really needed for him to focus on balance....but he always did tell Daniel that the best Karate was inside of him....with Daniel already being agressive naturally it would be natural for him to bring it out....Miyagi only needed provided a sense balance so he can transform his anger to something more focused and refined ....defense was only a part of it....it was really about Daniels mental aspect...thats why he really never wanted him to focus on competing.
his only problem is that he keeps bringing up how the past and every thing with johnny and never tries to fix things with johnny or be friends with him.
The main reason here is that non of the Characters grow up with a father figure in the house. They all found a mentor who guided them. Only Sam and her little brother had their father(Daniel) who discovered that he still has much to work on as a leader. In fact all those grown people came from Disfunctional Families.
If I'm being honest though, my favorite moments with Daniel are when he calms people down and speaks with them. He always ends the conversations with a little wisdom, and I really like that. I love the adult character of Daniel Larusso. The part that I agree with is how self righteous he is in believing that his way is the only way. I do appreciate his respect at the end of season four that he gave to Johnny and his style. I want to see that growth from Daniel more in season 5. (Hell, maybe he'll embrace it himself. Maybe not to the extent of when he was taught by Silver, but enough to make his defensive style more deadly with Johnny's offense) Who knows... Larusso - Do Karate might be born.
@@zacharyradford5552 It's a little sad that as a middle-aged man, he still can't think for himself and onlysees the entire world through the lens of how he thinks Mr Miyagi saw it.
Daniel would've been a perfect Cobra had Daniel and Johnny not already have beef. MiYagi realized Daniel was a natural Cobra during training for the 1st tournament and knew what can happen when you train someone with a bad attitude which is why MiYagi withheld all the aggressive techniques from Daniel. Kreese would've been smart to congratulate and try to recruit Daniel after the tournament. Silver even knew Daniel was a natural Cobra the moment they met.
Definitely not a problem that Daniel embrace his shadow self. Part of growing is understanding your own personal dark side and using it in a positive way.
I would love it if in season 5, Daniel tells Chozen of defensive only "myagi-do", only for chozen to laugh and tell him they trained Goju-ryu, and were supposed to focus on offense as well.
I’ve always thought that Daniels heart is in the right place, but he has always been a contradiction. Teaching about finding inner peace, strength, and not reacting. Only to pop into a rage two minutes later just by looking at Johnny!!! The hot head theory makes a lot of sense. Johnny can be an a total ass, but he doesn’t pretend to be anything else.
It really is about duality and the Chinese concept of yin and yang. Light and dark. There is elements of both in the other..This also is the major reason I like Miyagido is they embrace that balance. It was really apparent that Daniel woke up to it in the final tournament . He could see that the only way to win was to work with Johnny and use both fighting styles.
Let us remember that it was Daniel LaRusso's mockery of Johnny, him raising of the rent in the supermall, him founding Miyagi-Do by attacking Cobra Kai in public via commercial, and him fermenting hatred towards Cobra Kai within his students, that started the dojo war. This whole dojo war, which dominated the plots of Seasons 2, 3, and 4, was Daniel's fault to begin with.
Daniel is a Jersey guy. If you're not from here you may not understand. Aggression is survival in the Northeast. Having lived in California and being from Jersey the Karate Kid instantly made sense to me. Daniel moved to Cali; the culture is completely different from NJ. He never officially became a Cali guy. You can take a boy out of Jersey, but you can't take the Jersey out of him. Fish out of water stories never get old.
I find it strange that Daniel became quite the antagonist in season 1 and 2 when he was brought up to be a protagonist in karate kid. Almost like reverted to his cobra kai ways
Daniel just has problems he’s acting this way because back then cobra Kai abused him and he’s not thankful for them that’s why he had an issue in season 1 mike Barnes was also the worst cobra Kai bully who tortured Daniel!
The main difference is Miyagi Do believes in showing mercy and Karate being for self defence while Cobra Kai doesn’t believe in showing mercy and believes in striking first. It’s not so much about the actual Karate itself, but more about the mind set. E.g. defend yourself vs fuck em up.
I think Miyagi taught Daniel only the defenses of his style because he knew Daniel would become a bully if he knew how to attack people and that he wouldn't be able to control himself.
I'm still waiting for someone to show up, learn the philosophies, buying into neither and then using karate from both styles for strictly utilitarian reasons. I'd recon Laurence, Kreese and Silverman would be okay with it while Lapusso throws a bitch fit
Every human being has Cobra Kai in them. It’s the balance of light and dark Miyagi and Yoda were both preaching in the 80’s. Daniel and Johnny are both learning balance ☯️
Miyagi Do was based on Okinawan Karate which is in meaning "Self Defense". Miyagi also said "Karate is for defense only". Meaning it's not just blocking for but protecting yourself not for waging wars. Chozen explained with the pressure point technique "if an opponent insists on waging war you take their ability to wage it" - taking away a knife or in this case to use Karate. It's all about little conflict as possible. Miyagi Do was never offensive.
I don’t know if this is a popular opinion or not, but I believe that Johnny is actually a far better person than Daniel. Daniel is far too self righteous and arrogant. He never even considers that he may be wrong or that another way may work for someone else. Johnny does tend to strike first, but he has literally had that instilled in his brain since he was young. I believe he will unlearn that in season 5. I also really love how Johnny interacts with Sam.
But You forgot Daniel has given Johnny a free car 3 times. Fixed his Pontiac for free, gave him a free challenger, johnny never paid for the Dodge carvan and Daniel still lets it slide
Honestly though, I can't blame Daniel for feeling the way he does. Miyagi kicked Kreese and Silver's ass effortlessly. So feeling that Miyagi's method is superior is pretty justified. He is a bit arrogant in that he doesn't respect Johnny's skill as much as he should, but it's certainly been shown that Miyagi Do is pretty much unbeatable if done right.
@@taragnor problem was it was unbeatable for Miyagi. But The Who point Miyagi highlights is not everyone is going to achieve their full potential the same way and that embracing other methods weren’t bad as long as they were being used for the right reason. This is especially highlighted with Chozen. Karate should be used for defense only in the context of you want to protect yourself or others. But sometimes the best and maybe only way to properly defend is to go on the offensive. This is what Eagle Fang really brought to the table.
Tbh I get why he acted up cobra Kai left him traumatized with all the shit they did to him in the past his main issue was he chose to make a war out of it instead of confronting Johnny and having an honest conversation about it like tbh a lot of things could’ve been avoided if he just pulled up and was like “hey man look I just don’t want these kids having the wrong influence and cobra Kai has put me through hell all these years and the last thing I want is for any of these kids to go through that” I’m pretty sure Johnny would understand and would tell him not to worry as his cobra Kai was different just certain things about this show could’ve been avoided if characters chose the higher road but that’s what’s great about the show it’s pretty realistic even the main antagonists like kreese have a very dark and interesting story on why they are the way they are and that’s fucking beautiful
Mans jumped to conclusions, but hey I would too, when the guy that almost killed me back in the day, and saw that johnny let kreese back into his life, might I remind u, kreese almost choked Johnny to death in part 2
What is this the daniel hater channel. You never once mentioned. Johnny's screw ups why is that sir, isn't johhny also a hot head. Didnt daniel save Johnny's life Didnt johhny lose his dojo to kreese. Your to busy focusing on Daniel and not johhny shame on you, it's about balance.
Bc everyone is already trying to say Johnny is a bad guy that’s literally what everyone thought since karate kid but he just had the wrong teaching honestly Daniel isn’t a saint and he is mad hardheaded tbh I don’t think he thought Johnny could change which he did but he’s not the problem they both jus made bad choices
I adored the fact that they wrote Daniel to absolutely ignore Silver and Kreese's win in the end. He's right. Every time these conniving turds have gone above and beyond to disrespect, disregard, manipulate or hurt him, his father figure Sensei, his children and students and it was so refreshing for him to say nuts to honouring any agreement made with those two snakes.
Daniel is flawed, has anger issues, and sometimes doesn't do the right thing. He's not a perfectly zen and figured out person like Mr. Miyagi was. In another universe, Daniel could have just been another asshole like Johnny was.
The whole franchise has always had Eastern theme so it's not a surprise that they want the 2 main characters to resemble the Yin Yang. There's a bit of each other in both of them.
Miyagi always taught balance, not just pure defense. A true practitioner of Miyagi Do would balance offense and defense and apply the correct tactic at the right time.
One time, the first time was payment because he's daughter wrecked Jonny's car and after Daniel fixed it he's cousin and bikers came to burn it. It's not free. Daniel owes Jonny
@@sarveshnathan7559 yes, Daniel didn't know that he's daughter crashed Jonny's car and he ALSO didn't send he's cousin to burn and destroy it after it was fixed. LEGALLY, Jonny could have pressed charges so Sam could go to Juvi for hit and run and he's cousin Lewy could go to jail for coming to Jonny's place to burn the car. Daniel's wife knew it was wrong and therefore said Daniel MUST give Jonny a replacement car.
This show is great because it has taken what were essentially kinda 2 dimensional characters in the movies, and let them breathe. Life isn't always black and white as the movies would have you believe. Johnny can be an asshole, but Daniel can also be an asshole. The deconstruction of both characters (especially Daniel) is what drives this show forward. My only issue is that the show seems to be in an alternate reality where you know, um, MMA doesn't seem to exist...LOL. I think they mentioned MMA in Season 1 or something, but that karate is everything. From having been a student of karate, it has some merits but I definitely would love to study Judo and/or BJJ as well one of these days. Aside from the fact it isn't really in OUR world (FUCK YOU COVID), great show and I highly recommend it. You will binge hard on this one.
Maybe Chozen will introduce a ground aspect to Miyagi-Do similar to original Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. Say "It was there all along" but Miyagi didn't want to flood Daniel with new techniques just then. After all, the reason Miyagi taught Daniel was to give him something he needed, not to turn him into the ultimate fighter. I think there's room for a ground game in the show. BJJ is fantastic, but if you have the chance to study Pankration or some other form of ground fighting, you'll get a similar result. I asked my ground fighting instructor once how what I was learning compared to Jiu Jitsu and he remarked "there are only so many effective ways to wrap someone up" meaning they all converge to a similar style. Good luck with however your training goes.
@@SequentiallyCompact Thanks for the response. Yeah I have wanted to study a ground art for some time, and that really left me with Judo or BJJ as options. The show definitely needs a ground aspect because that cannot be ignored. I mean, how many videos out there where a student of one martial art, say Tai Chi, gets schooled by the MMA fighter? I don't remember any ground stuff being taught in Karate, not where I learned, and I know its important. Either way, I plan to get on with it when I can, and we shall see where Season 5 goes with the show!
@@mattirealm I wish you the best of luck. You really are getting the most out of studying separate martial arts and integrating them yourself. In my day (the 90s) that was the only option. MMA schools can teach good skills, but there's something intangible that really benefits you when you figure out how it personally works best for you. If you find a way to advance your training, I'd love to hear about your progress. Take care.
It's funny how differently people can see things. I watch a video called "The problem with Daniel LaRusso" and it's a bunch of stuff that's basically mirroring this dumb video that said Daniel was the bully in the Karate Kid movies which apparently is satire, but then you have videos like this :) The funny thing is that nothing about what Daniel did in season 4 is referenced her at all, it's all from the Karate Kid, earlier seasons of Cobra Kai.. It's hilarious, like where my perspective which is a lot more balanced like I don't really have like huge biases and stuff like a lot of people do.. I go by evidence and like, actual real evidence not the stuff mentioned in this video which is stuff interpreted to fit the narrative the person's trying to portray as opposed to really being evidence. For instance, Danny going and telling Johnny that he should take over the kids training from now on because he knows how to handle Silver, and you can't strike first with him and basically throwing Johnny under the bus.. That's evidence. Coz it can't be interpreted in one way or the other it just is.. For example "Daniel sucker punched Johnny in the first Karate Kid" ... it you rewind just a few seconds before that "sucker punch" you see Johnny shove the radio into Daniel's face knocking him on the floor. So yeah who started what again? .... Just an example. but yeah my point is I find it hilarious that a video stating the prblem with Daniel LaRusso mentions NOTHING about his actions in season 4 which is actually when he starts to be the problem. You cannot say that Daniel did anything to Johnny in Seasons 1-3 that Johnny didn't do to Daniel.. every single time they come close to making an alliance one of them screws it up and they always do it equally. But in season 4 Daniel is always the one who is refusing to see the value in Eagle Fang, refusing to be fair and really combine their efforts and that's literally the reason why they split every single time they split in Season 4 is Daniel's fault. But none of this is mentioned which is hilarious..
That stunt Daniel pulled with the rent in the middle of season one was absolute crooked bullshit, and Johnny has never attempted anything like it. Johnny has never tried to shut down Miyagi-Do at all.
It’s great how the writers show Daniel slowly changing his philosophy on both karate and what he’s learned about Miyagido. He starting to realize that he equally needs offense and defense. Combining His teachings from Miyagi and Johnny. I can’t wait to see them expand on this with Chosen in season 5.
Daniel never said he was a hot head, Silver said that as an excuse for how he trained him. And when Daniel was angry he had every right to be angry with all the crap going on.
, Johnny pushed Daniel down at the beach, he broke Ali's ghetto blaster, Daniel had no idea who Johnny was and that he and Ali used to date, he was trying to protect Ali from thugs. Also Daniel had been tripped twice as he tried to run at Johnny during the confrontation, The "cheap" shot was Daniel defending himself.
I feel that perhaps Mr. Miyagi held back the full Miyagido teaching for Daniel, because perhaps Mr. Miyagi used it in the war, maybe he was protecting Daniel from going full Miyagido for his protection so he wouldn't kill anyone.
I like how this last season made him have to take a hit to his ego by showing him he doesn't know whats best for everyone or that he isn't always right.. I guess to put it best, Daniel's being the main character in the KK series turns into main character syndrome in the actual world and now his world view is being challenged
@@AnimeProfilePicture you know that Cobra Kai is tv show right?
in my opinion, Miyagi didn't teach daniel the aggressive side of Miyagi do because Mr Miyagi knew that daniel's nature was more agressive
i agree
@@NH1973 Well Bobby did trip him on purpose but yeah
I think Sam is the same way. The way she literally used what Aisha said about befriending someone she didn't like to further terrorize someone she didn't like.
I agree. It was better to learn defense in his case because Daniel would have probably harm his enemies on purpose if he had learned the Cobra Kai style of karate.
If you are already one way, it is good to learn another way so that you are a fuller person. It is also possible that Mr. Myagi was mainly taught the defensive version of Myiagi by his father, and not the aggressive parts.
I wonder if it will turn out that Cobra Kai is actually a branch of the aggressive version of Myiagi-Do. That would be a cool twist. The only things we know about the origins of Cobra Kai are that John Kreese was taught it by his superior in the army via flashbacks, and what Terry Silver said in Karate Kid III; an elusive sensai from (presumably) South Korea. But it's Terry Silver, so it could all be bs.
This exactly! Daniel was a hothead because, he didnt have a father figure before, Mr Miyagi. Johnny had a terrible father figure in Kreese. Daniel and Johnny are two sides if the same coin. One is controlled, the other chaos. One is rigid, the other flexible. Each characters represent Ying and Yang. All the characters reflect each other in a push and pull. It's very smart that they repeat this theme and do it effectively.
As some Japanese guy said, the problem with Daniel is that even though he doesn't strike first with fists he always does with words.
Just like Sam
Nailed it.
Well you know what they say: “The pen is mightier than the sword”
Except he doesn't. Johnny strikes first with words all the time. People just ignore it because they're biased in favor of him or think it's funny when he's an asshole. But when the nice guy dares to say something mean, then it's justification to punch him.
@@PiecefulKaos It was Daniel's mockery of Johnny, him raising of the rent in the supermall, him founding Miyagi-Do by attacking Cobra Kai in public via commercial, and him fermenting hatred towards Cobra Kai within his students, that started the dojo war to begin with. This whole dojo war was Daniel's fault.
The BIGGEST thing people overlook is back in The Karate Kid. Despite a few lessons at the Y, and a book, Miyagi wasn't Daniel's first stop to learn Karate... It was Cobra Kai. The only thing that stopped him was seeing Johnny. In another universe Danie would of easily joined Kreese's Cobra Kai when he moved to California & he would of been a perfect fit.
WOW, you are totally correct. Daniel was trained by Miyagi but he has some of Kreese and Silver traits.
He used manipulation and money to mess with Jonny's dojo in season 1 and also went to a rival car dealer to threaten him and kicked the drink out his hand.
Jonny was trained by Crees but he backed off from fighting Daniel in season two and told Miguel to show mercy.
Omg true but remember Daniels mom said that they probably couldn't afford Cobra Kai anyways at the restaurant right after he left Cobra Kai
Of course, Cobra Kai was the only karate known to him. No one knew Mr Miyagi was a teacher.
Although Daniel didn’t know Mr Miyagi was a karateka at the time, Daniel would’ve fitted right in with John Kreese.
Daniel was a hot headed kid, who was quick to anger, not afraid to use violence and didn’t have a father figure to guide him in life.
If Johnny trained at say Locust Valley Karate Club, Daniel would totally have become a Cobra.
@@PoisonousPen Daniels mom cleary states after he goes to croba kai that they couldnt afford cobra kai anyways!! It was too expensive for Daniels mom to pay for
The main problem I have with Daniel is how self righteous he is. He thinks he karate or his method is the only way. He was the first to insinuate that he should take over both schools in season 4
Yeah but he allowed his daughter to choose in the end so it’s redeeming himself
@@mambalevel1017 no, Sam just made it clear that he couldn't stop her from learning both styles and he had no choice but to accept that.
@@mambalevel1017 yeah but she was going with johnny style anyway so he kind of had no choice
@@mambalevel1017 The real redeeming moment was when he told Hawk to use everything he learned from Cobra Kai to go on the offensive. That was Daniel showing that he had accepted that his own system was not the only viable system.
That's like what Robby says. Everyone thinks it's one way to teach.
It’s also likely that Miyagi kept the offensive side a secret because he knew that Daniel was a hot head and he wasn’t ready to learn it.
Chozen pretty much told him as much when Daniel questioned why Mr. Miyagi didn't teach him the offensive side.
The therapist said the same thing lol
I’ve just had a thought: there were two signs, first one said ‘karate for defence only’ and the 2nd one was ‘see rule 1’.
But really if may have been: ‘if a situation demands it, strike first and take your enemy out before they have a chance’ but Miyagi didn’t let him in on this as he didn’t think he was ready. But the rule was there all along.
@@RichieW90210 Or a better fit would be if it said "Defense Takes On Many Forms"
All I can say is that when this show ends, there needs to be a spin-off where Hawk becomes an MMA fighter.
Lol 🤣
That would be completely badass
Would love to see that and he will be the best man
I wanna see Miguel called up to the Olympics who says no???
The show will be called Mixed Martial Man!
The other main problem with Daniel is that he is very hypocritical and quick to assume the worst in people. Daniel was holding a grudge against Johnny for 30 years, but Daniel went through a lot worse with Chozen and Terry Silver. He was also very quick to get angry with Johnny, when half the time it’s the students acting out on their own against Myiagi do ( Johnny actually punished his students for bad behaviour) . If Daniel left Johnny alone in the first place, cobra kai would’ve closed a long time ago.
If mr miyagi was. alive he would have told him it takes two to tango as he said in a episode in the cartoon karate kid series
Didn't Kreese find out about Cobra Kai because of the tournament? I think if Daniel was successful in stopping Cobra Kai in season 1, then it would probably solved most of the dilemmas in the show.
@@sbfb242 Daniel’s grudge against Johnny is 90% of the problem!! . In the very first episode of the show, Daniel practically bragged about kicking Johnny in the face 30 years ago in front of everyone. Which gave Johnny extra motivation to re open cobra Kai. When Daniel found out about the dojo re opening, he did everything in his power to close it instead of leaving Johnny alone. If Daniel wasn’t at the tournament meeting in season one, the committee would’ve turned down the dojo to enter the competition. Johnny wasn’t even Daniels biggest bully!!! Chozen tried to kill Daniel and Terry silver is a sociopath, so his anger towards Johnny is extremely unnecessary.
@@karleighrock593 johnny still bullied daniel. It can be hard to forgive former bullies
@@karleighrock593 I agree with you 💯.
The fued between Daniel and Johnny initially they started in the 80s over a girl.
Chosen: Yes Daniel I'll leave my job and come across the ocean to help you settle your high school feud.
Chozen is the homie everyone needs
For the soul of T H E V A L L E Y 👁👄👁
“I don’t need Life lessons from a guy on a karate vacation”
-Johnny Lawrence
There's just one puzzle piece missing for Daniel in all this, self-awareness. That's one of the reasons I think Johnny is for many fans the more sympathetic character. He has his own flaws that still need a lot of work, but he was also the first one to recognize that. From the beginning Daniel would blame himself sometimes when things went wrong, but in a "Oh, I failed, I was righteous but my righteousness wasn't enough to solve the problem" type of attitude. He's made progress though, especially toward the end of season 3, but still has a ways to go. I'm interested to see how this turns out by the end.
Eh I prefer Daniel. Much more realistic. Especially for a hot head trying to adhere to only 1 set of rules that so far has never led them astray. He really struggled with letting his sensei’s teachings go. He thinks it’s the only right why because his sensei is his hero. Idk if you watch anime but it gives me deku and all might vibes (from my hero academia)
@@JulyIzHere Realistic, yes. That's actually one of the things that makes him so realistic. How many people are there in this world that have their own flaws that they need to work on? Or that are so quick to point out other people's shortcomings while having such a hard time recognizing their own?
Exactly. They're both flawed, but Johnny is the one who actively tries to grow and become a better person. Whereas Daniel is so self-righteous that he doesn't even notice how much of a dickhead he can be. Only when his wife (bless her heart) points it out does he notice he did something wrong, but then he learns nothing from it. Zero self-awareness.
The reality is that Miyagi Do contains the offense too.
It is just that Miyagi didn t emphasize this aspect.
No he didn’t teach it to the angry and aggressive Daniel as he felt Daniel didn’t need it.
@@zacharyradford5552 so, It Is not no. It Is yes.
Also, as much as he tries to be calm he is still a kid from Jersey.
Daniel and Johnny both think they are right and neither of what they say or do is wrong when it is supposed to be used against Cobra Kai, I really love that dynamic between them because it shows how they similar more than they think.
I honestly feel like Johnny is the more flexible of the two.
@@SakuroAlex oh most definitely
Well I mean Johnny unlike Daniel will actually admit to being wrong or that he needs to learn Daniel atleast to me always seems like he was the actual bully. I mean at the end of the first movie Johnny even brought Daniel the trophy an told him he was great. That's something alot of people never talk about. Not saying Johnny wasn't an asshole but watching this an then watching the movies again Daniel seems to instigate it from the start. But I get what you're saying lol
@@HeavensRedemption that is true
Robby: oh god I’m in prison
Daniel: WOAH JAPAN IS AWESOME!!
Not to mention Daniel used the pressure point technique on Johnny when it’s ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED WHEN AN ENEMY INSISTS ON WAR!!!
cuz kreese is the one who is insisting on war thats why daniel went full on kenshiro
@@ganonmain907 he also used it on Johnny in a glorified exhibition match. Like Wtf?
You're right. I was so disappointed in Daniel when he did that. Made him out to be such a hypocrite!
Ikr if it was Johnny doing it he would have lost it
Cause he is. He’s never admitted he threw the first punch between him and Johnny like how he never has admitted he tried to embarrass the Cobra Kai guy at the school dance by setting them.
I enjoyed watching the series but never understood why Daniel couldn't let his past go. He became a successful business owner, has a beautiful family. He won in life. Pursuing these childhood vendetta was completely pointless and made no sense. Let it go and live your life...
If Mr Miyagi was alive he would be telling Daniel the same thing 99% of the show’s problems would be solved in 2 episodes😂
He really doesn’t understand boundaries very well. Miyagi walked him into Cobra Kai AFTER Daniel had been repeatedly jumped. Daniel walked in CK BEFORE Johnnys first student had even learned to kick. The raising the rent thing was just wrong. You just don’t go messing with peoples livelihoods like that while still trying to claim the moral high ground. Daniel should have waited until Kreese came back before he started his crusade. Miyagi was clear in his teaching. Johnny wasn’t bad. Kreese was. Daniel should have given Johnny a chance to prove that his CK was different.
Can you blame him? Remember the tormenting he’d gone through from cobra Kai.
@@Saturn-pt1gn of course I do. From a group of guys that are all gone with the exception of 1 that were being taught by 2 guys that weren’t even around at the time and the one guy still left has flushed his life down the toilet to the point where he fixed his car for him out of pity. If he had named it Eagle Fang from the start, Daniel would have done the same thing. Who is Daniel to play God with Johnnys chance at making a living because he’s still pissed over events that took place 35 years ago. I applauded Daniel and Miyagi for getting CK shut down in the 80s, but Johnny wasn’t even given a chance and I do believe that had Kreese not showed up that he fully planned on reigning in Hawk and Miguel after their actions at the tournament.
Daniel didn't do anything wrong by that though, Johnny was Cobra kai's number 1 bully.
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 so if he had decided he wasn’t cool with Chozen taking over Miyagi Do and started trying to sabotage his dojo and life in general it would be ok? Chozen was far nastier with him than Johnny was. Let say fir the sake of argument that Daniel left Okinawa directly after his first meeting with Chozen in the bar and Chozen didn’t get the chance to let Daniel know he was just joking with his demeanor. In Daniels mind mind Chozen is still an asshole. The same guy from 35 years ago.
@@bleedingcrystal4722 they forgave each other in season 3
Daniel LaRusso is an Italian American from New Jersey, why are many people surprised that he has a temper? Lol
Italians are very passionate people.
@Leo Roemer
If he didn't move to California he would have ended up on the Sopranos instead of Cobra Kai and Karate Kid.
Right. Italians are hot headed anyways naturally so big shocker lol
Many real life Okinawan masters did not subscribe to karate having different styles. They are simply vehicles for offense or defense depending on the situation. The show seems to be leaning on this and these sensais learning these lessons for themselves. Certain characters have been able to blend the styles seemlessly and they do so when they choose to listen to their cumulative self vs one dojo or another. Robby, Sam, Miguel and later Hawk and Daniel figure it out. Daniel forgets Miyagi didn't take any shit. He will stand his moral ground and not care if it starts a fight. He will warn the other person and let them know he prefers not to fight but when they don't listen...well sorry for ya.
Reminds me of the movie Kuro Obi. One student gets told to only use defense, the other only uses offense. Then they bitterly fight over who is the successor.
Kreese didn't seem to learn that lesson though.
Daniels biggest problem is he always believes that his opinion is the right one and everything Johnny does is wrong because it is Cobra Kai even after Johnny leaves and starts Eagle Fang I Hope in season 5 he learns from these mistakes and improves with Chozen now teaming up with him super excited can’t wait for season 5 now
Honestly can’t stand Daniel
@@LeThickBooty i wouldn’t say that
@@0nly.mally1 ok I said it for me personally
@@LeThickBooty well ur poragative
@@0nly.mally1 ok I don’t like Daniel LaPusso 🤷🏾♂️
Although Daniel has been taught to be defensive by Miyagi, he's personality is offensive like Cobra Kai.
Jonny Laurence was taught to fight offensive by Kreese but he's personality is becoming more fight in defence only, principals of Miyagi. Like when Daniel challenged Jonny Laurence in season two at the dojo and Jonny said he won't fight him.
Same like when Sato challenged Miyagi and Miyagi said no.
Daniel yes but johnny no. He literally goes by strike first in everything he does. Not sure what scene in season 2 youre talking about but either way one scene doesnt define his personality
@@georockmann7113 the seen after Hawk steals Miyagi Medal.
@@adhdmed Bro then I disagree even more with you. Not picking a fight one of your students started doesnt mean he has a defensive personality
@@georockmann7113 bro, Jonny told Miguel to show mercy and that Miguel should not be like him but be better than him and win in life. Daniel went to a rival car dealer to kick a drink out his hand as a threat. Daniel also attacked Jonny when Sam was at he's apartment after Jonny told Him to first calm down.
Jonny only strikes first when there's no other choice.
@@adhdmed I really have no idea why you insist on your claim so much even tough it clearly isnt like that. I can see it with daniel but with johnny its one hell of a reach. Not picking senseless fights all the time doesnt mean he has a defensive personality. He didnt wanted to fight daniel when hawk stole the medal simply because he knew it was wrong. And he wanted daniel to calm down at his apartment for sams sake. He simply has no defensive personality like you say
Daniel
Hot head taught to be calm, but fights with his emotions
Johnny
Introverted taught to be aggressive, yet fights with his emotions.
Balance
Daniel and Johnny combining what they've learned. Two opposites with an element of each other inherent within them.
Ai ki
The harmonised spirit.
And that's why Miguel, Samantha and Robbie are basically the future. They're trying to bring together both worlds.
@@YuuSHiiiN
But it has to begin with Daniel and Johnny.
There are no bad students, only bad teachers.
A good teacher knows their limitations and always questions their art.
@@tonyhudson8235 That's not exactly the point I was making. I was implying that Both Johnny and Daniel are hard-headed and largely stuck in their ways. However, by season 4, you do see Miguel and Sam trying to bring both together and coming into their own with elements of both. Robbie is also doing the same(in his own way). So in many ways, the younger generation are bringing about the The harmonized spirit.
Ai ki do (aikido): The way of harmony. This is spiritually what they're aspiring to. Any martial artist would benefit greatly from the philosophical aspect of aikido.
@@kaldemvor
Absolutely.
The principles of aikido will benefit any martial art.
Daniel's problem is associative regression. He refuses to see the change in Johnny, later in Terry Silver. He reverts back to being a teenager and can't seem to stop going to war with Cobra Kai. In essence, his conflicts are self-fulfilling prophecies and, in a way, he's the real antagonist of the series.
Great insight. Someone should make a video centered about the psychological idea.
He's a slightly more refined Louie
@@ZuLKiNG louie is better
To be fair, Terry Silver did pull the nice guy act in KK3.
@Jason Dyrkacz true, but I don't think it's an act in the show. I think Terry really did bury that side of himself. We're all capable of growth and change. But at the end of the day, we're all capable of backsliding.
Season 6 Daniel Is Olympic level glazing miyagi
It’s my opinion that the entire show is a representation of the yin and yang concept. Cobra Kai is hard and violent while Miyagi do is softer focusing more on peace and harmony. All of the movies did the same but the show is doing something different. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that this is the story of how the two finally join together as one. Instead of being two opposing forces, the two will learn that both philosophies can coexist and compliment each other. It’ll work out in the end.
I also think that Miyagi-do was not as soft or focusing on peace and harmony as Daniel thinks that it was. I think that Miyagi purposefully over emphasized those aspects in order to counter Daniel's natural aggressiveness and temper and maybe also because of his experiences with war and losing his family. After all, in the movie Daniel was far from introverted or shy. He was outgoing and a little hot headed. I think Daniel would have fit into Cobra Kai very well actually, if circumstances had been different.
The point from which the show started is that from Johnny's pov, Daniel was/is the bully, while from Daniel's, he gained confidence because of karate and what Miyagi taught him, but he never let go what Johnny did to him and how scared he felt at first. So Daniel's initial instinct, was always to fight Johnny in the same Cobra Kai style, it was Miyagi who shaped him not to, but we can see even in his kids, the nature is there to also be the bullies, and if there is not a strong figure like Miyagi was to Daniel, they can go to that path too and Daniel is so into showing he is right to everyone else, that he is not paying attention on what is going on with his own kids. So the entire concept of the show is great, even if some storylines come across as soap operas, because no one is completely bad or completely good in it and it is great in the way that is shows that it is all a matter of perspectives.
Daniels wasn’t paying attention to his kids before Johnny came back into his life.
The problem with both is that they’re so similar. They’re each other’s Jungian Shadows. They subconsciously recognize all the things about themselves that they dislike in each other and it pisses them off. That’s why they alternate from close to being best friends to absolutely hating each other, because they’re essentially looking into a mirror, and how they feel about each other depends on how they feel about themselves at that moment.
Daniel can be very hypocritical
Yes dat faxs
You just realised that just now?
Facts
@Justin Gary WOW
@Justin Gary You're wrong. Daniel trashed Johnny's reputation in season 1 when he went to the dojo the first time. So... Lies.
Also, another clear difference between the two.
When Johnny found out Miguel was dating Sam, he told Miguel his feelings about Daniel and that's it. He didn't forbid him from dating her, he let him decide for himself.
When Daniel found out, he strictly forbid Sam from dating a Cobra Kai.
The dichotomy of Miyagi Do and Cobra Kai is so Jedi/Sith in many ways.
Yes, the styles are literally oposites.
But in the series every character thinks they are "the good people" xD
For the most part. All the problems in the show would be solved if Daniel wasn’t so antagonistic towards Johnny. The guy opened Cobra Kai to give strength to kids (and also to beat people’s ass) whereas Daniel opened Miyagi Do purely to combat Cobra Kai who did nothing to him??? He never gave Johnny Cobra Kai a chance
"That's not the miyagi do wa-" GET OU-
1:20-1:27 Daniel pouring water on Johnny’s head was not a first strike. He did that after 3 defeats: getting beat up at the beach, getting tripped over at a soccer try out (Johnny telling his buddy to get at Daniel), and finally getting thrown over with his bike over a hill. All what he did was fight back.
When Daniel and Johnny first encountered at the beach, Johnny threw Ali’s radio and Daniel was only trying to help out by picking it up and giving it back to Ali but Johnny snatched it off his hands rudely and then shoves it back to Daniel knocking him on the floor. Daniel wasn’t going to take that; well WHO ELSE would?! Would you??!! He gets back up and lunged at Johnny twice and trips him twice, Johnny roundhouses him on the stomach knocking off the wind out of him AND THEN SUCKER PUNCHES him. I mean, that’s being a hot head hitting FIRST. That’s a hot head hitting 4th!! Not to mention getting 3 more freaking hits and get knocked out.
Stop crying
@@johnnyringo2695 no you
@johnnyringo2695 I don’t see anybody crying. Just pointing out untrue information in people’s arguments
Exactly I lose it when people start that “Johnny good, Daniel bully” crap when a brief rewatch of the beach clip shows Daniel trying to be cool and calm everyone down and Johnny being a straight asshole. Like I like Johnny just as much as the next guy. I don’t hate his character or have anything against him but let’s be real here from the moment he rolled up on that beach he was a complete aggressor.
Yes! Precisely! Johnny was the aggressor, they just want to pull the victim card for Johnny. However I also like Johnny as the next guy. The real hot head is Johnny, not to mention that he’s the one who said that being in Cobra Kai is all about being bad ass. And let’s not forget, isn’t Cobra Kai’s motto: Strike FIRST, strike hard, no mercy.?
One thing I didn't get about Daniel is that despite being a successful car salesman, he has always failed to convince people his point. He failed to convince the danger Cobra Kai poses to Amanda and his family, to the tournament committee and to the parents.
Daniel s issue has always been not leaving shit alone, none of what happened to him in karate kid happens to him if he just leaves shit alone
The greatest problem with the whole adult cast (Except Amanda) is that none, in 30 years, thought about going to therapy
No, no...That's actually very realistic.
Specially in religious families when they say that therapy is bs.
Didn't Terry Silver get therapy?
He forgot to mention the worst thing Daniel did to Johnny in that first movie besides cheap at the tournament when he doused him with water he ruined a perfectly good batch of weed that he was rolling up.
Now that is a crime against humanity.
Had Daniel been cool with Johnny, Johnny might have shared some of it.
I bet Daniel couldn't even take a dump without Miyagi telling him, "Wipe on, wipe off"!
Miyagi didnt need to teach him the agressive side because Daniel was already a hot head and easy to anger.....thats why he only really needed for him to focus on balance....but he always did tell Daniel that the best Karate was inside of him....with Daniel already being agressive naturally it would be natural for him to bring it out....Miyagi only needed provided a sense balance so he can transform his anger to something more focused and refined ....defense was only a part of it....it was really about Daniels mental aspect...thats why he really never wanted him to focus on competing.
He just cant see that he is wrong which is his main flaw
He's not wrong but neither is Johnny right.
@@TheIndulging Johnny is more right than Daniel 9/10 of the time in the show
@@LeThickBooty Not really both are flawed and half of the time both are responsible for most events of the show.
@@TheIndulging but Daniel has been the aggressor in their conflict , raising johnnys rent , etc
@@LeThickBooty That's true but Johnny instead of trying to diffuse the situations he just makes them worse.
Daniel and Johnny is the modern day goku and vegeta lol hate working with each other but when they do they're unstoppable
his only problem is that he keeps bringing up how the past and every thing with johnny and never tries to fix things with johnny or be friends with him.
Would you really try to be friends with your high school bully? I know I wouldn't.
Can we expect some part 2’s for cobra Kai what if’s in the past?
Daniel is the original victim bully
Most bully s come from bin a victims
And Kenny is a metaphor of the antagonistic version of Daniel.
The main reason here is that non of the Characters grow up with a father figure in the house. They all found a mentor who guided them. Only Sam and her little brother had their father(Daniel) who discovered that he still has much to work on as a leader.
In fact all those grown people came from Disfunctional Families.
If I'm being honest though, my favorite moments with Daniel are when he calms people down and speaks with them. He always ends the conversations with a little wisdom, and I really like that. I love the adult character of Daniel Larusso. The part that I agree with is how self righteous he is in believing that his way is the only way. I do appreciate his respect at the end of season four that he gave to Johnny and his style. I want to see that growth from Daniel more in season 5. (Hell, maybe he'll embrace it himself. Maybe not to the extent of when he was taught by Silver, but enough to make his defensive style more deadly with Johnny's offense) Who knows... Larusso - Do Karate might be born.
Except it’s not his wisdom it’s Miyagis. Daniel is really that same kid who threw the first punch between him and Johnny on the beach.
@@zacharyradford5552 It's a little sad that as a middle-aged man, he still can't think for himself and onlysees the entire world through the lens of how he thinks Mr Miyagi saw it.
Daniel would've been a perfect Cobra had Daniel and Johnny not already have beef. MiYagi realized Daniel was a natural Cobra during training for the 1st tournament and knew what can happen when you train someone with a bad attitude which is why MiYagi withheld all the aggressive techniques from Daniel. Kreese would've been smart to congratulate and try to recruit Daniel after the tournament. Silver even knew Daniel was a natural Cobra the moment they met.
The writers know that Daniels pretty flawed even daniel knows it, and in season 5 he's going to develop
Larusso is the villian still IMO.
Definitely not a problem that Daniel embrace his shadow self. Part of growing is understanding your own personal dark side and using it in a positive way.
Yup
I would love it if in season 5, Daniel tells Chozen of defensive only "myagi-do", only for chozen to laugh and tell him they trained Goju-ryu, and were supposed to focus on offense as well.
I’ve always thought that Daniels heart is in the right place, but he has always been a contradiction. Teaching about finding inner peace, strength, and not reacting. Only to pop into a rage two minutes later just by looking at Johnny!!! The hot head theory makes a lot of sense. Johnny can be an a total ass, but he doesn’t pretend to be anything else.
It really is about duality and the Chinese concept of yin and yang. Light and dark. There is elements of both in the other..This also is the major reason I like Miyagido is they embrace that balance. It was really apparent that Daniel woke up to it in the final tournament . He could see that the only way to win was to work with Johnny and use both fighting styles.
Let us remember that it was Daniel LaRusso's mockery of Johnny, him raising of the rent in the supermall, him founding Miyagi-Do by attacking Cobra Kai in public via commercial, and him fermenting hatred towards Cobra Kai within his students, that started the dojo war. This whole dojo war, which dominated the plots of Seasons 2, 3, and 4, was Daniel's fault to begin with.
@Rozza There's a reason Mr. Miyagi took certain secrets to the grave with him rather than teach them to Daniel.
@@HolyknightVader999 Ha. So true.
Daniel is a Jersey guy. If you're not from here you may not understand. Aggression is survival in the Northeast. Having lived in California and being from Jersey the Karate Kid instantly made sense to me. Daniel moved to Cali; the culture is completely different from NJ. He never officially became a Cali guy. You can take a boy out of Jersey, but you can't take the Jersey out of him. Fish out of water stories never get old.
Idea: what if terry silver never rejoined Cobra Kai during the events of season 4?
Well then cobra Kai would’ve never came back in kk3
@@LosHitman whatt
@@michellenichols9538 cuz Kreese had no money to keep running cobra Kai
@@michellenichols9538 and he need silver to revive cobra kai
I find it strange that Daniel became quite the antagonist in season 1 and 2 when he was brought up to be a protagonist in karate kid. Almost like reverted to his cobra kai ways
That is literally the whole point of the show haha
Daniel just has problems he’s acting this way because back then cobra Kai abused him and he’s not thankful for them that’s why he had an issue in season 1 mike Barnes was also the worst cobra Kai bully who tortured Daniel!
The main difference is Miyagi Do believes in showing mercy and Karate being for self defence while Cobra Kai doesn’t believe in showing mercy and believes in striking first. It’s not so much about the actual Karate itself, but more about the mind set. E.g. defend yourself vs fuck em up.
Without spoilers Terry Silver says something about old friends this last season that sounds like Mike Barnes will return.
I think Miyagi taught Daniel only the defenses of his style because he knew Daniel would become a bully if he knew how to attack people and that he wouldn't be able to control himself.
I'm still waiting for someone to show up, learn the philosophies, buying into neither and then using karate from both styles for strictly utilitarian reasons.
I'd recon Laurence, Kreese and Silverman would be okay with it while Lapusso throws a bitch fit
Every human being has Cobra Kai in them. It’s the balance of light and dark Miyagi and Yoda were both preaching in the 80’s. Daniel and Johnny are both learning balance ☯️
Daniel Son has PTSD leave that man alone lol
I kept that thinking that he might have a mental breakdown in s5
"Rule number 1: Karate is for defence only. Rule number 2: First learn rule number 1."
Cobra Kai needs more Bobby. Pastor Bob kicking ass for the Lord.
Miyagi Do was based on Okinawan Karate which is in meaning "Self Defense". Miyagi also said "Karate is for defense only". Meaning it's not just blocking for but protecting yourself not for waging wars.
Chozen explained with the pressure point technique "if an opponent insists on waging war you take their ability to wage it" - taking away a knife or in this case to use Karate. It's all about little conflict as possible. Miyagi Do was never offensive.
No Daniel wasn’t taught offense because he’s already aggressive. Miyagi-Do was created for war but to end it as quickly as possible.
I don’t know if this is a popular opinion or not, but I believe that Johnny is actually a far better person than Daniel. Daniel is far too self righteous and arrogant. He never even considers that he may be wrong or that another way may work for someone else. Johnny does tend to strike first, but he has literally had that instilled in his brain since he was young. I believe he will unlearn that in season 5. I also really love how Johnny interacts with Sam.
But You forgot Daniel has given Johnny a free car 3 times. Fixed his Pontiac for free, gave him a free challenger, johnny never paid for the Dodge carvan and Daniel still lets it slide
Honestly though, I can't blame Daniel for feeling the way he does. Miyagi kicked Kreese and Silver's ass effortlessly. So feeling that Miyagi's method is superior is pretty justified. He is a bit arrogant in that he doesn't respect Johnny's skill as much as he should, but it's certainly been shown that Miyagi Do is pretty much unbeatable if done right.
@@taragnor problem was it was unbeatable for Miyagi. But The Who point Miyagi highlights is not everyone is going to achieve their full potential the same way and that embracing other methods weren’t bad as long as they were being used for the right reason. This is especially highlighted with Chozen. Karate should be used for defense only in the context of you want to protect yourself or others. But sometimes the best and maybe only way to properly defend is to go on the offensive. This is what Eagle Fang really brought to the table.
No. Johnny was definitely more of a hothead and an asshole than Daniel.
johnny and daniel are yin and yang: perfect opposites who share a center. awesome show 🤘
Tbh I get why he acted up cobra Kai left him traumatized with all the shit they did to him in the past his main issue was he chose to make a war out of it instead of confronting Johnny and having an honest conversation about it like tbh a lot of things could’ve been avoided if he just pulled up and was like “hey man look I just don’t want these kids having the wrong influence and cobra Kai has put me through hell all these years and the last thing I want is for any of these kids to go through that” I’m pretty sure Johnny would understand and would tell him not to worry as his cobra Kai was different just certain things about this show could’ve been avoided if characters chose the higher road but that’s what’s great about the show it’s pretty realistic even the main antagonists like kreese have a very dark and interesting story on why they are the way they are and that’s fucking beautiful
Mans jumped to conclusions, but hey I would too, when the guy that almost killed me back in the day, and saw that johnny let kreese back into his life, might I remind u, kreese almost choked Johnny to death in part 2
Kind of a stretch. Daniel’s more measured self nearly always wins out. Gotta have a little inner conflict in there.
3:36 is so something Demetri would say
What is this the daniel hater channel. You never once mentioned. Johnny's screw ups why is that sir, isn't johhny also a hot head. Didnt daniel save Johnny's life Didnt johhny lose his dojo to kreese. Your to busy focusing on Daniel and not johhny shame on you, it's about balance.
Bc everyone is already trying to say Johnny is a bad guy that’s literally what everyone thought since karate kid but he just had the wrong teaching honestly Daniel isn’t a saint and he is mad hardheaded tbh I don’t think he thought Johnny could change which he did but he’s not the problem they both jus made bad choices
let him have an opinion man. this video's about daniel not johnny
Well said 👏. That's the reason I don't watch character analysis video on RUclips. Only the chosen one is the yotuber who makes unbiased videos.
Cobra Kai Skeleton Halloween costumes were Fire!!!
I adored the fact that they wrote Daniel to absolutely ignore Silver and Kreese's win in the end. He's right. Every time these conniving turds have gone above and beyond to disrespect, disregard, manipulate or hurt him, his father figure Sensei, his children and students and it was so refreshing for him to say nuts to honouring any agreement made with those two snakes.
I can’t help but think of the Tao philosophy. A huge theme in it is that humans try too hard to do good and end up having negative consequences
That’s how I know you never saw karate kid movies, everything you said was so debunkable and it’s not even funny
Waiting on a kenny video
Johnny and Miyagi being similar was apparent to me for the longest.
Daniel is flawed, has anger issues, and sometimes doesn't do the right thing. He's not a perfectly zen and figured out person like Mr. Miyagi was. In another universe, Daniel could have just been another asshole like Johnny was.
Fax people jus think cause he’s flawed he’s a awful character when that isn’t the case
I’m surprised that Daniel never went to anger management or therapy to have better control of his temper and mouth.
Waiting for season 5 😍😘
“Mr miyagi would have never done such a thing!”
Daniel kicking the boba is only striking first physically. That guy struck first with the insults
How about when Daniel was thinking about texting Johnny and says, “ No don’t apologize it Shows Weakness…”
Clear as Day Cobra Kai
Daniel never sucker punched Jonny Jonny started it
The whole franchise has always had Eastern theme so it's not a surprise that they want the 2 main characters to resemble the Yin Yang. There's a bit of each other in both of them.
Miyagi always taught balance, not just pure defense. A true practitioner of Miyagi Do would balance offense and defense and apply the correct tactic at the right time.
The Larussos are bullies. At least in 4 they're being blatant with Anthony's arc
How do you feel now?
Defense takes on many forms
- Chozen
Just wanna say, Amanda is a gem
*THANK YOU!!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw all this about Daniel, people watch the show but not really watching the show.*
Only the big brained people😈
And Danny said he has to go on the offensive 😎😂
In season 4 he learns Eagle Fang Karate
sam is going to cobra kai
Wow Johnny really saved him from a whole what if series…
Everyone be slandering Daniel. Sure he raised rent on Johnny but let’s not forget he gave a free car to him like 3 times
One time, the first time was payment because he's daughter wrecked Jonny's car and after Daniel fixed it he's cousin and bikers came to burn it. It's not free. Daniel owes Jonny
@@adhdmed "the first time was payment because he's daughter wrecked Jonny's car "
Daniel didn't know that at the time
@@sarveshnathan7559 yes, Daniel didn't know that he's daughter crashed Jonny's car and he ALSO didn't send he's cousin to burn and destroy it after it was fixed. LEGALLY,
Jonny could have pressed charges so Sam could go to Juvi for hit and run and he's cousin Lewy could go to jail for coming to Jonny's place to burn the car.
Daniel's wife knew it was wrong and therefore said Daniel MUST give Jonny a replacement car.
@@adhdmed It wasn't Sam who crashed, it was Yasmine.
This show is great because it has taken what were essentially kinda 2 dimensional characters in the movies, and let them breathe. Life isn't always black and white as the movies would have you believe. Johnny can be an asshole, but Daniel can also be an asshole. The deconstruction of both characters (especially Daniel) is what drives this show forward. My only issue is that the show seems to be in an alternate reality where you know, um, MMA doesn't seem to exist...LOL. I think they mentioned MMA in Season 1 or something, but that karate is everything. From having been a student of karate, it has some merits but I definitely would love to study Judo and/or BJJ as well one of these days. Aside from the fact it isn't really in OUR world (FUCK YOU COVID), great show and I highly recommend it. You will binge hard on this one.
Maybe Chozen will introduce a ground aspect to Miyagi-Do similar to original Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. Say "It was there all along" but Miyagi didn't want to flood Daniel with new techniques just then. After all, the reason Miyagi taught Daniel was to give him something he needed, not to turn him into the ultimate fighter. I think there's room for a ground game in the show.
BJJ is fantastic, but if you have the chance to study Pankration or some other form of ground fighting, you'll get a similar result. I asked my ground fighting instructor once how what I was learning compared to Jiu Jitsu and he remarked "there are only so many effective ways to wrap someone up" meaning they all converge to a similar style. Good luck with however your training goes.
@@SequentiallyCompact Thanks for the response. Yeah I have wanted to study a ground art for some time, and that really left me with Judo or BJJ as options. The show definitely needs a ground aspect because that cannot be ignored. I mean, how many videos out there where a student of one martial art, say Tai Chi, gets schooled by the MMA fighter? I don't remember any ground stuff being taught in Karate, not where I learned, and I know its important. Either way, I plan to get on with it when I can, and we shall see where Season 5 goes with the show!
@@mattirealm I wish you the best of luck. You really are getting the most out of studying separate martial arts and integrating them yourself. In my day (the 90s) that was the only option. MMA schools can teach good skills, but there's something intangible that really benefits you when you figure out how it personally works best for you. If you find a way to advance your training, I'd love to hear about your progress. Take care.
It's funny how differently people can see things. I watch a video called "The problem with Daniel LaRusso" and it's a bunch of stuff that's basically mirroring this dumb video that said Daniel was the bully in the Karate Kid movies which apparently is satire, but then you have videos like this :) The funny thing is that nothing about what Daniel did in season 4 is referenced her at all, it's all from the Karate Kid, earlier seasons of Cobra Kai.. It's hilarious, like where my perspective which is a lot more balanced like I don't really have like huge biases and stuff like a lot of people do.. I go by evidence and like, actual real evidence not the stuff mentioned in this video which is stuff interpreted to fit the narrative the person's trying to portray as opposed to really being evidence. For instance, Danny going and telling Johnny that he should take over the kids training from now on because he knows how to handle Silver, and you can't strike first with him and basically throwing Johnny under the bus.. That's evidence. Coz it can't be interpreted in one way or the other it just is.. For example "Daniel sucker punched Johnny in the first Karate Kid" ... it you rewind just a few seconds before that "sucker punch" you see Johnny shove the radio into Daniel's face knocking him on the floor. So yeah who started what again? ....
Just an example. but yeah my point is I find it hilarious that a video stating the prblem with Daniel LaRusso mentions NOTHING about his actions in season 4 which is actually when he starts to be the problem. You cannot say that Daniel did anything to Johnny in Seasons 1-3 that Johnny didn't do to Daniel.. every single time they come close to making an alliance one of them screws it up and they always do it equally.
But in season 4 Daniel is always the one who is refusing to see the value in Eagle Fang, refusing to be fair and really combine their efforts and that's literally the reason why they split every single time they split in Season 4 is Daniel's fault. But none of this is mentioned which is hilarious..
The most of comments section in this video sucks, and this video sucks
That stunt Daniel pulled with the rent in the middle of season one was absolute crooked bullshit, and Johnny has never attempted anything like it. Johnny has never tried to shut down Miyagi-Do at all.
Johnny was right. The LeRusso's are rotten to the core 🤣