It feels like after Hawks' incredible character arc in season 4, the writers just dont know what to do with him now Like he lost to Kenny in season 5 AND Miyagi-Do were just gonna go to the sekai taikai without him if Tory didnt pull out in season 6
Exactly. After Season 4, they used Hawks New Stature as One of, if not THE best Fighter in the show as a way to push some of the Less experienced Fighters like Kenny, Devon and Demetri. It sucks seeing him get thrown in the dirt as of late.
MiYagi-Do makes people soft. Miguel's change after the merge is case and point. Kreese, Silver, Daniel, and Devon may be sociopaths but Kim Sun Yung, Kreese, Silver, and Kim Da Eun are still right.
Two things though. He lost to Kenny on scuffed reasons like getting cheap shorted and the ref which counted the “Silver bullet” as a “forefit” rather than giving him time to recover. Daniel was also upset with Johnny and Mikes whole dispute because like he said. “You and I both know Hawk should be going.” And then asks Johnny if he really thinks they have their best fighters.
Hawk has the most character development in the entire series because he embraced basically all styles of karate taught to him and he went through multiple character arcs gotta give him props for that but it seems like after season 4 the writers dont know what to do with him anymore just BRING BACK S4 HAWK I BEG OF YOU u also really like his win some and lose some mentality it really shaped his character
@@GaryTongue-zn5di training in different dojo doesn't make her better fighter than anyone if she take more time on to one dojo like 5- 6 months instead of training in an dojo for 2 months Her fighter as dojo eagle fang (2 months) Topanga ( 1 week) Cobra kai ( 2 months) Miyagi do ( 3 months)
Here’s my logic, if you were an All Valley champion or at least made it to the semi finals then you should automatically be first priority for the Sekai takai when it comes to choosing the 6 fighters.
robby is getting injured by a character named axel miguel and hawk fight to see who will be captain and fight kwon and miguel won and the finals is miguel vs kwon miguel won but robby takes the credit
The fact they were gonna put demetri in the sekai taikai and not hawk until Tory left is INSANE 💀 he literally proved he's on Miguel and Robby level and he's an all valley champ unlike Robby how was bro not automatically put in the top 6 😭
@@SonnyCombos They should've automatically had hawk, Miguel, Robby, Tory, and Sam in the sektai tekai and let the rest of the students compete for last open spot
Jacob stated in an interview that Hawk winning the All Vally was a late change by the directors... pretty sure they did that to continue Robbys Arc and End Hawks Arc. Proves why hawk slowly became from one of the main characters to a supporting character.
He didn’t say in the tournament he said he said he knocks out a Formidable foe in quite the manner that could be anything and it will probably be in the main brawl in episode 10 since he’s hinted at that
@@derek96720 she’s also super annoying, she literally cheats to win. Yes she feels a bit of remorse but she is only gonna bring the team down because of her selfish decisions.
robby is getting injured by a character named axel miguel and hawk fight to see who will be captain and fight kwon and miguel won and the finals is miguel vs kwon miguel won but robby takes the credit
@@Migueldiaz-h5uBro I just saw a different person claim there's a leaked picture of Robby holding a trophy winning the sekai taikai 💀 I also saw a leak saying miguel lost to Yoon in a fair fight. I can't take any of y'all serious making up "leaks" and y'all never even provide proof of these leaks lmao
they really turned hawk into the yamacha of the series or piccolo the people who you thought were strong are sorry as hell but maybe they will give him a better arc in part 2 with what the actor jacob bertrand teased for his arc in part 2 and 3
I agree. I don’t get why hawk is the punching bag to elevate other characters and Kenny is just beyond overpowered in terms of plot armor. He’s a new student who’s in terms of plot is becoming the most overpowered character in this show and hawk of all people or maybe anyone needs to get a W over Kenny cause this season hawk is just a joke at this point.
Tylearn I think you should make a video about a potential relationship between Tory and Kwon. Tory might not even be interested but Kwon senses that Robby has had feelings for her so he openly flirts with her to mess with Robby
I could see that happening but I also couldn’t. I could see him not wanting to get involved he might just wanna focus on his own business. Or he does and gets involved
I mean demetri is ok considering he is main cast character he should get some lime light but why does character like devon in sekai takai They are forcing her as main character which is pretty annoying Kenny should be there instead of her
@@target9180nah Kenny character should never been a thing, Dimitri fighting should have never been a thing and Anthony learning to fight should have never happened. That’s why it’s so bunched up and everywhere now
@@XxAnimeXDudeI agree. Demetri being here as a fighter, when he was originally against it was super lame. Just having him as a background character, maybe still with Yasmine is the perfect sendoff to his character better than geeky binary bro fighter.
With season 6 Hawk you gotta remember it’s only part 1 and Hawk had a tone of conflicting feelings displayed with the MIT stuff. It really had him uneasy throughout all of Part 1 and when he finally spills the beans to Demitri it didn’t lift any weight off of his chest. Demitri just added the same amount back by teasing and reminding Hawk of his decisions. So throughout his fights he wasn’t really the same in season 6. But the big thing is that the writers have a lot of characters and in order to push some character’s narratives in the right direction or conclude there story they need the weaker characters to beat someone more powerful like Hawk to show progression. So let’s see how part 2 and 3 go
Hawk will actually fly through the Sekai Taikai he literally wins a 5v2 by himself after Demetri gets taken out Eli wins a weapons competition and loses to Kwon 3-2 He gets win after win up to Kwon
How the writers decide when to use hawk for something: "Alright so we have make devon do something impressive any ideas?" "How about we have them take a flag from demetri?" "Nahh to weak." "How about miguel or robby?" "Nahh to strong. WAIT how about hawk." "But wasnt it established hes basically on the same level as miguel and robby?" "I dont remember that." "Okay sure but cmon he hasnt taken a W since s4" "And he can take another one."
You didn't even bring up how Hawk got folded like a lawn chair by Devon 💀💀💀 EDIT: I don't think Hawk is weaker than Devon for anybody wondering. I just think it is funny that Season 6 Hawk got cooked by Devon in the flag game. Obviously Hawk wins in an actual fight, just funny how hard he got nerfed.
@@Tylearn I get that but he was done dirty in both the capture the flag. Like no way Devon makes it on the team before Hawk. Hawk was only a replacement. Dude peaked in S4
hawk wipes the floor with tory, it makes no sense for tory to be a better fighter than him since robby no diff’d tory then was shown to be pretty much relative with hawk
Hawk need to bring out his dark side and show the world who the fuck he is. In my eyes when he is confidence and balanced he is even better than Diaz and Robbie. Hope he makes a come back and be the MVP of the tournament.
I liked how since Miguel’s injury they decided to put the emphasis on hawk and put some spotlight on him but they’re taking it away and leaning so much towards Miguel and Robby like hawk is nerfed and more like a side character now
season 4 hawk is so tuff prolly my sec favorite tbh and also the problem with hawks nerf is that he embraces myagai do way to much aswell as caring for others and not using his full strength
The main problem with this show is it has no idea what to do with characters when they decide to focus on others, this really became apparent when they got rid of Aisha all together because they didn’t know what to do with her anymore 😭, they obviously have big things in store for Hawk if they’re bringing him down this much because they have already gone through so many character arcs with him this is the only way to do it at this point in the show
Tylearn if you wanna feel closure jacob said he fights a very formidable for someone respected or feared and knocks him out and it’s in cobra Kai S6 interview if you wanna watch it the vid is 31:05 and he says it rights at the start as a Hawk fan I feel better because the writers been on all bull even Johnny who slammed Mike knows Hawk is one of the top 4 said by him and Daniel even after Season 5
In a Stream Hawk Said that he has a scene we’re he absolutely wipes the floor with a character in the Sekai taikai, the problem is that the character was changed so he has to fight a girl so he asked if the choreography could be less brutal but they said no💀
Hawk is my favourite character and always be but kobra Kai season 6 is just showing him as an average while this guy goes from 0 to hero he his best in series and a hardworking too
Hawk is also my favorite character and my main reason for continuing this series. (Couple stuff with Sam/Miguel and Tory/Robby just zzz, zzzzzz already.) It irked me to no end that Johnny acted like it was no big deal that he didn't make the Sekai Taikai, but props to Daniel for mentioning that he deserved a spot. Though Hawk only making it just because Tory went to Cobra Kai was a cop out, IMO. They need to quit nerfing him. As others have mentioned, he's studied with Johnny, Daniel and Kreese so knows all forms of karate. He really is the GOAT.
Ok so first of, this is a great video, high quality not boring, just an all around great video, 2nd I think hawk and damitrie are going to fight each other In The saki tiki
something to note is the only reason he almost didn't get in was because johnny wanted devon in, johnny didn't even care when daniel consulted him about it
you are even forgetting him losing to Robby at the mall. He took 3 L's in season 2. Against Robby, Miguel and Demitri. Proving him being below the level of both Miguel and Robby.
Hawk's journey is complete. The only things to do (1) patch things up with Demetri (2) probably help Kenny win in the Sekai Takai (3) get another gf. That's it. Hawk prioritizes his friendship over hurting others and has learned as much as anyone. Cobra Kai needs a new champion, so no to everyone but Kenny or Demetri.
In Season 2, even though Hawk takes many Ls, he does score a win at Coyote Creek. He out-lasts everyone but Miguel and Stingray (due to dirty tricks). Yes, he even out-lasts Tory, who put Miguel on his ass on her first day at the dojo and trained in other martial arts before. And Hawk's Ls in Season 2 play into his arc. This isn't present after Season 5!
I couldn't agree more, ever since season 5 he regressed so much how did bro go from winning the all valley to losing to kenny of all people, Kenny doesn't even know miyagi do at that point nor does he have close enough experience to beat them, yes I know he did the silver bullet and the ref got paid but hawk should've been smart enough to not be over confident another issue I had with both these season5 and 6 is we barely got interactions between johnny and hawk, only interaction is when hawk couldn't breathe and johnny was near his side and that's it yes hawk is with miyagi do but as of now its a combined dojo and johnny was his first sensei, made him come out of his shell so yh overall season 5 and season 6 part 1 made hawk so weak and hopefully him and Miguel get a comeback in part 2 and 3
I definitely agree with you about Hawk, but I don't see it being so bad about Miguel. He just lost the one fight against Robby, but was definitely qualified for the Sekai Taikai anyway. Hawk really needs a comeback
His wins weapon competition him and demetri 2v5 and demetri get pack wash I think because I didn’t see him and he knows out a formidable foe which is someone who’s respected or feared so yeah hawk is guaranteed back in the rest of the season do underestimated the goat he really lost that many times after season 4 because he hold back against mostly everyone besides Miguel n Robby and demetri so trash for doing that little sneak in S6
Bringing in new character after Season 3 is what ruined the focus of Hawk and other characters. The show never needed Kenny or Devon but the writers thought otherwise. The ruined it.
Hawk losing to Kenny was bad especially since nothing came from it for either one of them! I maybe Kenny should’ve told Robby I don’t need you guys. I can do this by myself because unlike you I was actually able to beat Hawk.
My guess is they do with Hawk what they did with recovering Miguel in S4. Basicly Eli got his big W as champ. Now they want more spotlight on Devon, Tori etc. So they get to do the big stuff. But i would also say booth Devon and Demetri get beaten for cheating their way into the 6. While Hawk will actually win a big fight in the tourney
People always forget Daniel-san Beat a Champion like Johnny with 2 months of train in Karate Kid 1 that's worse, Kenny beating Hawk it's like Daniel beating Johnny.
Another problem with what they did with hawk is his hair. when he gets his hair cut, most of his character growth happens, but they just go back to the mohawk? i feel like him having a normal style symbolizes his change back into eli. it was dumb to go back to the mohawk.
Eli best version Fighting: season 3/4 Attitude: season 4-6 Confidence: season 4 Speed: season 2 Reflexes: season 2 If you disagree let me know what u would've put instead
Season two in season five in my opinion are the best seasons of this whole series although season four to me was the weakest Eli’s redemption storyline was the High Point. The only thing that was disappointing about season five was at the end of the season. You could see him growing the mohawk back becoming Hawk again in my opinion at this stage and his life, he doesn’t need to be Hawk he won the male division of the valley and he won back Moon’s heart as Eli and without the mohawk.
Finally someone who understands my pain seeing Hawk losing every fight
The curse of the Lancer and the worf effect
It's even worse in part 2 bro this sucks
It feels like after Hawks' incredible character arc in season 4, the writers just dont know what to do with him now
Like he lost to Kenny in season 5 AND Miyagi-Do were just gonna go to the sekai taikai without him if Tory didnt pull out in season 6
Fax
Exactly. After Season 4, they used Hawks New Stature as One of, if not THE best Fighter in the show as a way to push some of the Less experienced Fighters like Kenny, Devon and Demetri. It sucks seeing him get thrown in the dirt as of late.
MiYagi-Do makes people soft. Miguel's change after the merge is case and point. Kreese, Silver, Daniel, and Devon may be sociopaths but Kim Sun Yung, Kreese, Silver, and Kim Da Eun are still right.
Two things though. He lost to Kenny on scuffed reasons like getting cheap shorted and the ref which counted the “Silver bullet” as a “forefit” rather than giving him time to recover.
Daniel was also upset with Johnny and Mikes whole dispute because like he said. “You and I both know Hawk should be going.” And then asks Johnny if he really thinks they have their best fighters.
@@miguelpasamano4995Sorry didn’t understand the second part of the sentence
Hawk has the most character development in the entire series because he embraced basically all styles of karate taught to him and he went through multiple character arcs gotta give him props for that but it seems like after season 4 the writers dont know what to do with him anymore just BRING BACK S4 HAWK I BEG OF YOU u also really like his win some and lose some mentality it really shaped his character
DEVON has crossed trained the most, NOT Hawk!
Devon's Dojos:
Eagle Fang
Topanga Karate
Cobra Kai
Miyagi Do
Devon has trained them all!
He truly bought into both styles and thats why that made him all valley champ
@@GaryTongue-zn5di training in different dojo doesn't make her better fighter than anyone if she take more time on to one dojo like 5- 6 months instead of training in an dojo for 2 months
Her fighter as dojo eagle fang (2 months)
Topanga ( 1 week)
Cobra kai ( 2 months)
Miyagi do ( 3 months)
@@GaryTongue-zn5dishe is weak 😂
Here’s my logic, if you were an All Valley champion or at least made it to the semi finals then you should automatically be first priority for the Sekai takai when it comes to choosing the 6 fighters.
I agree. And By that logic, the 6 should have been Miguel, Tory, Hawk, Robby, Sam, and Demetri
@@bennyboy82329the 6 with the most experience and 3 know offense the best and 3 know defense the beta
@@MarquiStevens right you are broski
@@bennyboy82329honestly!!!! So that whole choosing 6 fighters scene in part 1 was a waste but I understand for the sake of the story
@@grudgematch6653 yeah it should’ve been 8 fighters. 4 boys, 4 girls. Maybe Sam could’ve brought Aisha back
Hawk and Miguel are gonna have the biggest come back in part 2 and part 3
robby is getting injured by a character named axel miguel and hawk fight to see who will be captain and fight kwon and miguel won and the finals is miguel vs kwon miguel won but robby takes the credit
@@Migueldiaz-h5uthose leaks could be fake of hawk vs Miguel fighting for captain but yeah Axel does injury Robby
@@Xivsk miguel #1 let's goo
Ong the big 2 is gonna be back
I agree very heavily that’s exactly what’s gone happen I’m so ready for part 2🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅😈
The fact they were gonna put demetri in the sekai taikai and not hawk until Tory left is INSANE 💀 he literally proved he's on Miguel and Robby level and he's an all valley champ unlike Robby how was bro not automatically put in the top 6 😭
not even in the top 4
Even La Pusso said he should have been an automatic pick.
Tbf, Danny and Johnny wanted him on the team. They just let the selection process disqualify him, and even Danny was mad about it lmaoo
@@SonnyCombos They should've automatically had hawk, Miguel, Robby, Tory, and Sam in the sektai tekai and let the rest of the students compete for last open spot
@@mightguy3118 I agree with that tbh. You'd think having champions or runner ups would be easy picks.
Jacob stated in an interview that Hawk winning the All Vally was a late change by the directors... pretty sure they did that to continue Robbys Arc and End Hawks Arc. Proves why hawk slowly became from one of the main characters to a supporting character.
He was goated in s3 and s4 now he feels nerfed asf. Like how the hell did demetri win against him in the woods fight. I want old hawk back bro. 😂
hawk kicked his ass while holding back lmao he’s miles above demetri and demetri took advantage of hawk showing mercy to sucker kick him
@@bmc6905 that’s I mean
He didn’t lose that wasn’t the point of that scene, Dimitri took advantage when he went to go help him up
@@giffy6437 oh I see
Jacob Bertrand said in an interview that Hawk gets to Knock out someone powerful in the tournament. I’m guessing it’s Yoon
He didn’t say in the tournament he said he said he knocks out a Formidable foe in quite the manner that could be anything and it will probably be in the main brawl in episode 10 since he’s hinted at that
@@Darksnake-e2Xsame thing whatever 😭
If hawk knocks out yoon I think everyone needs to respect hawk again
Hopefully but kwon literally no diffed yoon so it’s definitely not yoon I think hawk is gonna beat a 1v4
Yoon is kinda fodder tho
Miguel and Hawk have been getting done dirty since season 4 especially Miguel since hawk did win the tournament
Miguel aint never got done dirty
It pisses me off how much the writers want us to care for Devon when she’s so mid, and now Johnny apparently likes her more than hawk like what?!
Devon is like Johnny daughter like Miguel but I agree that Hawk need more love for his former Sensei.
My problem with Devon is that she has no personality other than caring too much about being seen as the best. That's just boring for a character.
@@derek96720 she’s also super annoying, she literally cheats to win. Yes she feels a bit of remorse but she is only gonna bring the team down because of her selfish decisions.
No she's not... Like... She doesn't snt have half the moments Miguel has with him@@sergiomora3967
10/10 "GET OUT" didnt expect that
I just want hawk to win big in part 2 of season 6, and for Robbie to win the Sekai
Taikai🙏🏾😭
robby is getting injured by a character named axel miguel and hawk fight to see who will be captain and fight kwon and miguel won and the finals is miguel vs kwon miguel won but robby takes the credit
@@Migueldiaz-h5unot cool nga there hasn't even been an official teaser yet 😭😭
@@Migueldiaz-h5uwtf man
@@Migueldiaz-h5uBro I just saw a different person claim there's a leaked picture of Robby holding a trophy winning the sekai taikai 💀 I also saw a leak saying miguel lost to Yoon in a fair fight. I can't take any of y'all serious making up "leaks" and y'all never even provide proof of these leaks lmao
@@mightguy3118 MIGUEL LITERALLY FOUGHT KWON AND WON
10:48 it's like Thanos beating Hulk it's embarrassing😢
they really turned hawk into the yamacha of the series or piccolo the people who you thought were strong are sorry as hell but maybe they will give him a better arc in part 2 with what the actor jacob bertrand teased for his arc in part 2 and 3
Still better than what Bleach did to Chad!
I agree. I don’t get why hawk is the punching bag to elevate other characters and Kenny is just beyond overpowered in terms of plot armor. He’s a new student who’s in terms of plot is becoming the most overpowered character in this show and hawk of all people or maybe anyone needs to get a W over Kenny cause this season hawk is just a joke at this point.
In the leaks he is the mvp of the sekai tekai and saves miyagi do by winning the weapons competition
He also supposedly gets no diffed by Kwon
@@gg41451 uh oh
@@gg41451 who’s said that ?
@@gg41451 there’s no leak about that stop lying
@@gg41451Kwon glazer
They nerfed Hawk so hard. He went from tied with Miguel for best fighter to 4th string bench warmer
I'm like 90% certain the writers will address this in part 2 like even they have to be aware of the outrage of Hawk's treatment.
Tylearn I think you should make a video about a potential relationship between Tory and Kwon. Tory might not even be interested but Kwon senses that Robby has had feelings for her so he openly flirts with her to mess with Robby
I could see that happening but I also couldn’t. I could see him not wanting to get involved he might just wanna focus on his own business. Or he does and gets involved
Kwon doesn’t give a shit about anything other than to win and be on top of
If they make hawk lose in the first round of the tournament in s6 and make Devon or demetri win they definitely ruined him
I mean demetri is ok considering he is main cast character he should get some lime light but why does character like devon in sekai takai
They are forcing her as main character which is pretty annoying
Kenny should be there instead of her
@@target9180nah Kenny character should never been a thing, Dimitri fighting should have never been a thing and Anthony learning to fight should have never happened. That’s why it’s so bunched up and everywhere now
@@XxAnimeXDudeI agree. Demetri being here as a fighter, when he was originally against it was super lame. Just having him as a background character, maybe still with Yasmine is the perfect sendoff to his character better than geeky binary bro fighter.
Honestly bro the automatic the re should've been five automatic spots robby,miguel,torry,eam,and hawk
Sam
He needs his focus and willpower back!! 😢
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With season 6 Hawk you gotta remember it’s only part 1 and Hawk had a tone of conflicting feelings displayed with the MIT stuff.
It really had him uneasy throughout all of Part 1 and when he finally spills the beans to Demitri it didn’t lift any weight off of his chest. Demitri just added the same amount back by teasing and reminding Hawk of his decisions.
So throughout his fights he wasn’t really the same in season 6.
But the big thing is that the writers have a lot of characters and in order to push some character’s narratives in the right direction or conclude there story they need the weaker characters to beat someone more powerful like Hawk to show progression.
So let’s see how part 2 and 3 go
Hawk will actually fly through the Sekai Taikai he literally wins a 5v2 by himself after Demetri gets taken out Eli wins a weapons competition and loses to Kwon 3-2 He gets win after win up to Kwon
How the writers decide when to use hawk for something:
"Alright so we have make devon do something impressive any ideas?"
"How about we have them take a flag from demetri?"
"Nahh to weak."
"How about miguel or robby?"
"Nahh to strong. WAIT how about hawk."
"But wasnt it established hes basically on the same level as miguel and robby?"
"I dont remember that."
"Okay sure but cmon he hasnt taken a W since s4"
"And he can take another one."
You didn't even bring up how Hawk got folded like a lawn chair by Devon 💀💀💀
EDIT: I don't think Hawk is weaker than Devon for anybody wondering. I just think it is funny that Season 6 Hawk got cooked by Devon in the flag game. Obviously Hawk wins in an actual fight, just funny how hard he got nerfed.
I was shocked by that
I guess tripping someone is folding them
She tripped him 😭
@@Tylearn I get that but he was done dirty in both the capture the flag. Like no way Devon makes it on the team before Hawk. Hawk was only a replacement. Dude peaked in S4
@@Tylearn And? Hawk was on the floor and Devon wasn't 😂😂😂.
If hawk doesn’t start ripping peoples heart out in the future episodes, I am doing something devious.
It broke my heart when they made Hawk job to Kenny. He hasn’t been the same since.
hawk wipes the floor with tory, it makes no sense for tory to be a better fighter than him since robby no diff’d tory then was shown to be pretty much relative with hawk
Low diff no diff doesn't exist
Hawk need to bring out his dark side and show the world who the fuck he is. In my eyes when he is confidence and balanced he is even better than Diaz and Robbie. Hope he makes a come back and be the MVP of the tournament.
Bro as a hawk fan I know this ain’t happening that he can’t beat Miguel and Robby. Even though I’m a hawk/Miguel fan tho 🤣🤣
He beat Robby fair and square @@kxfromga5359
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I liked how since Miguel’s injury they decided to put the emphasis on hawk and put some spotlight on him but they’re taking it away and leaning so much towards Miguel and Robby like hawk is nerfed and more like a side character now
I will admit, Season 4 Eli was him
season 4 hawk is so tuff prolly my sec favorite tbh and also the problem with hawks nerf is that he embraces myagai do way to much aswell as caring for others and not using his full strength
Hawk gon go crazy in the no mercy match, hopefully
The main problem with this show is it has no idea what to do with characters when they decide to focus on others, this really became apparent when they got rid of Aisha all together because they didn’t know what to do with her anymore 😭, they obviously have big things in store for Hawk if they’re bringing him down this much because they have already gone through so many character arcs with him this is the only way to do it at this point in the show
I think Hawk kinda started seeing Kreese as a sort of father figure which is why he never left his side in the first half of season 3
8:07 GET OUT!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
hawk's downfall in season 5 & 6 is truly sad af
The nerf him even more he isn't even level of miguel amd Robby anymore
It's like winning the All Valley had cursed Hawk into a downward spiral
Ever since he won the all valley it feels like he’s been in a rut
Bring back season three hawk
Tylearn if you wanna feel closure jacob said he fights a very formidable for someone respected or feared and knocks him out and it’s in cobra Kai S6 interview if you wanna watch it the vid is 31:05 and he says it rights at the start as a Hawk fan I feel better because the writers been on all bull even Johnny who slammed Mike knows Hawk is one of the top 4 said by him and Daniel even after Season 5
In a Stream Hawk Said that he has a scene we’re he absolutely wipes the floor with a character in the Sekai taikai, the problem is that the character was changed so he has to fight a girl so he asked if the choreography could be less brutal but they said no💀
Still gonna be fodder at the end of the day
Hawk is my favourite character and always be but kobra Kai season 6 is just showing him as an average while this guy goes from 0 to hero he his best in series and a hardworking too
Hawk is more powerful when he is motivated by his emotions. 😈
I don’t think people realize how good of a fighter he is it makes my blood boil to see him lose. I’m heading he goes crazy in part two tho🙏🏽 plz
Hawk suffers from the tv trope "the wharf effect". its when they take a strong character and make them lose alot to new antagonists for power scaling.
Hawk is also my favorite character and my main reason for continuing this series. (Couple stuff with Sam/Miguel and Tory/Robby just zzz, zzzzzz already.) It irked me to no end that Johnny acted like it was no big deal that he didn't make the Sekai Taikai, but props to Daniel for mentioning that he deserved a spot. Though Hawk only making it just because Tory went to Cobra Kai was a cop out, IMO. They need to quit nerfing him. As others have mentioned, he's studied with Johnny, Daniel and Kreese so knows all forms of karate. He really is the GOAT.
Ok so first of, this is a great video, high quality not boring, just an all around great video, 2nd I think hawk and damitrie are going to fight each other In The saki tiki
Bro the leaks are insane , hawk will return
bro season 3 hawk wouldnt let that slide
The beginning 😂
look i forgot that hawk was a valley champ until you mention it they nerf him so hard that I forgot is crazy
The rise of Hawk will be on part 2 again
Hawk had the biggest nerf
something to note is the only reason he almost didn't get in was because johnny wanted devon in, johnny didn't even care when daniel consulted him about it
Daniel wants Anthony to be in top 6 which is biggest joke 😂😂😂😂😂
@@target9180 but daniel never interfered with mikes decisions because he was mature enough to know that his son ain't all that
@@j-307 But Devon is better than Anthony
@@target9180 is devon better than hawk?
@@j-307no man.
I miss the Purple Mohawk.
you are even forgetting him losing to Robby at the mall. He took 3 L's in season 2. Against Robby, Miguel and Demitri. Proving him being below the level of both Miguel and Robby.
I liked Cobra Kai being redeemed alongside Johnny and seeing a new cobra kai.
The dojo becoming the villains once more was dissappointing
Hawk's journey is complete. The only things to do (1) patch things up with Demetri (2) probably help Kenny win in the Sekai Takai (3) get another gf. That's it. Hawk prioritizes his friendship over hurting others and has learned as much as anyone. Cobra Kai needs a new champion, so no to everyone but Kenny or Demetri.
Even Jacob said season 3 was his prime
For being a menace ? Sure but quite literally every piece of evidence suggests he got sm stronger
@@Tylearn He even said that red hawk was him at his strongest but he was broken.
@@undisputed3742 yeah show me that plz cause that’s not true 😭
@@TylearnIt was in an interview type thing when Jacob was rating his mohawks in every season
The TikTok and insta ck community brainwashed u each character gets stronger every season except Miguel during s3-s4
I seen a short video of Jacob talking about Hawk’s new look and it looks like Red Hawk is returning ether part 2 or 3.
Red phase is over maybe blue will return
He gets a single win in part two.
8:07 GET UPP 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait who downgraded? Hawk too eh….
In Season 2, even though Hawk takes many Ls, he does score a win at Coyote Creek. He out-lasts everyone but Miguel and Stingray (due to dirty tricks). Yes, he even out-lasts Tory, who put Miguel on his ass on her first day at the dojo and trained in other martial arts before. And Hawk's Ls in Season 2 play into his arc. This isn't present after Season 5!
Nah new leaks show he's cooking in part 2 (prime hawk is backkk)
I couldn't agree more, ever since season 5 he regressed so much
how did bro go from winning the all valley to losing to kenny of all people, Kenny doesn't even know miyagi do at that point nor does he have close enough experience to beat them, yes I know he did the silver bullet and the ref got paid but hawk should've been smart enough to not be over confident
another issue I had with both these season5 and 6 is we barely got interactions between johnny and hawk, only interaction is when hawk couldn't breathe and johnny was near his side and that's it
yes hawk is with miyagi do but as of now its a combined dojo and johnny was his first sensei, made him come out of his shell
so yh overall season 5 and season 6 part 1 made hawk so weak and hopefully him and Miguel get a comeback in part 2 and 3
I definitely agree with you about Hawk, but I don't see it being so bad about Miguel. He just lost the one fight against Robby, but was definitely qualified for the Sekai Taikai anyway. Hawk really needs a comeback
So what happenes when you get blocked? You counter punch 🥊 except maybe don’t actually hit this time
3 hours ❤
Take with grain of salt but the leaks for hawk are insane for part 2 😭
There are a lot of leaks of him in his bag season 6 part 2
His wins weapon competition him and demetri 2v5 and demetri get pack wash I think because I didn’t see him and he knows out a formidable foe which is someone who’s respected or feared so yeah hawk is guaranteed back in the rest of the season do underestimated the goat he really lost that many times after season 4 because he hold back against mostly everyone besides Miguel n Robby and demetri so trash for doing that little sneak in S6
Bringing in new character after Season 3 is what ruined the focus of Hawk and other characters.
The show never needed Kenny or Devon but the writers thought otherwise. The ruined it.
Devon should be background character like s4 and s5
Bro they nerfed him like 3 times😡
If I don't pass trig this semester my dad's gonna-
Hawk lost everything when he won the all valley
Hawk losing to Kenny was bad especially since nothing came from it for either one of them! I maybe Kenny should’ve told Robby I don’t need you guys. I can do this by myself because unlike you I was actually able to beat Hawk.
How does he put on a shirt
Bro is a hawk glazer
Hawk is still badass. But he lost the killer instinct.
My guess is they do with Hawk what they did with recovering Miguel in S4. Basicly Eli got his big W as champ.
Now they want more spotlight on Devon, Tori etc. So they get to do the big stuff. But i would also say booth Devon and Demetri get beaten for cheating their way into the 6. While Hawk will actually win a big fight in the tourney
They really don’t know what to do with Eli since he won the all valley.
Writers made hawk the hulk of cobra kai
Ever since Kenny hit him with a silver bullet bro got nerfed
People always forget Daniel-san Beat a Champion like Johnny with 2 months of train in Karate Kid 1 that's worse, Kenny beating Hawk it's like Daniel beating Johnny.
Talk about Miguel and potential future threats in the sekai tekai instead of kwon
Another problem with what they did with hawk is his hair. when he gets his hair cut, most of his character growth happens, but they just go back to the mohawk? i feel like him having a normal style symbolizes his change back into eli. it was dumb to go back to the mohawk.
Who is your goat bro😭😊
Eli best version
Fighting: season 3/4
Attitude: season 4-6
Confidence: season 4
Speed: season 2
Reflexes: season 2
If you disagree let me know what u would've put instead
hawk and Miguel are going to fight for the substitute captain spot
Eli ends up doing a 2v5 with demetri buts we see hawk taking like 2 or 3 people
If seen the leaks on Reddit for part 2 and show far from the ones if seen of hawk he isn’t nerfed in part 2
For my automatic team, it’s should be Miguel, Robby, Hawk, Sam, Tory, Kenny and backups Devon and Demetri
i guess you might say he went from a red hulk to cap phase
Season two in season five in my opinion are the best seasons of this whole series although season four to me was the weakest Eli’s redemption storyline was the High Point. The only thing that was disappointing about season five was at the end of the season. You could see him growing the mohawk back becoming Hawk again in my opinion at this stage and his life, he doesn’t need to be Hawk he won the male division of the valley and he won back Moon’s heart as Eli and without the mohawk.
Can I get a new link to the discord?
W hawk