In *The Karate kid* movie 🍿-- Daniel is your*Hero* In *Cobra Kai* 🐍 S1 -- Johnny is your*Hero* In *Cobra Kai* 🐍 S2 -- They both have different perceptions
Yeah but it makes me feel that Johnny and Daniel should be teaming up for miyagi-do because Johnny is out of the dojo of Cobra kai well that’s a *spoiler alert ! *
I think Samantha is the biggest villain of the show. when accusing Tory of stealing when finding out she didn’t do it never apologize. Getting piss drunk the day robbys mother checked into a rehab center and cheating on him. Never once does she clear the air and tells her father that Robby didn’t want her to drink instead let’s Mr.LaRusso reassure her she isn’t a bad kid. That sounds like some crazy enabling
You’re right. Totally worse than trying to kill people. Or breaking into someone’s house. She’s clearly the villain because she kissed a guy someone else dated for two weeks and accused someone of stealing. That’s next level shit
@@MrTambourineMan. I'm not saying others are not wrong but maybe if she'd stop making love triangles and actually help someone things wouldn't have escalated to burglary and attempted homicide
6:24 Yeah but Sam is to blame for not taking full accountability for her actions. She's the reason that the rivalry started with Daniel and Johnny, she's the reason there were problems at her father's delarship, she's the reason that the fights escalated with Robby and Miguel, she's the reason the school fight started, she's the reason Miguel went to the Hospital, and she's the reason Robby got put in Juvie.
Sensei Johnny is the real victim in Cobra Kai. He tried so hard to change his ways , and to teach good quality Karate . I mean, look all his student's are Kids who get bullied from school . And He show them the Way for life. -Strike First -Strike Hard -No Mercy If you think about it, is not even so stupid . My opinion.
He almost choked kyle all over his own precious car 🚗 plus protection of a teenager who didn't even know when to mind his own business. Even after the cops 👮 💂 👲 👳 👴 👵 👤 👥 🚓 🚔 🚎 🚐 🚚 🚛 🚗 🚘 🚣 🚁 ⛵ 🚲 🚨 themselves Especially plain clothes detectives simply placed a judge issued court order to refrain from such bad credit antics already mentioned somewhat Including allowing cobra 🐍 kai kar8 group sensei johnny kreese back into his own personal life after he tried to advance too quickly. Months went by and no one bothered anyone else yet still taught Miguel awful revenge fantasies
Jhonny and the Cobra Kai may have been the bullies in the first 2 Karate Kid movies but in the Cobra Kai series, Danielle takes on the bully role and can’t see past the fact that Jhonny has the potential to change. It seems like Daniel has forgotten everything Mr Miyagi has taught him after he passed.
Let's all forget that Johnny is alcholic feels sorry for him self and worst of all dinks and gets behind the wheel of a car so I guess Danny is an awful human being and johnny is all perfect can do no wrong no both have serious issues not just one
@@grandmastermario3695 Except Miyagi never tried to sabotage someone's business. We never saw him try to shut down John Kreese's dojo, for instance. Nor did we see him try to sabotage Terry Silver's businesses.
I like that the show made Daniel have some villainous moments it's one of the contributing factors the the lack of a black and white dynamic in the show
Truthfully, after the third movie with Barns and Silver, what they did to him is enough to give the guy PTSD for life. And on top of that he lost his best friend who gave him strength in all this. So he loses his best friend. Then he sees his child hood bully start up a karate organization that tormented him for years, and it all escalated from there. So while he instigated a lot of what happened mental illness is real. Danial never got the professional help he needed, all that happened was he beat Barns and Cobra Kai was exposed, so he didn’t have to deal with it all. So when he saw that his childhood bully after all these years brought back Cobra Kai, it brought everything back to the surface, and from there all of his past enemies like John Kreese, and Silver. It was clearly more than he could handle. In my conclusion Daniel is every bit the victim Johnny was. He’s not fully to blame and not the bad guy. I actually think that John Kreese is the villain he stole Johnny’s dojo, and pulled Silver back in after running a muck. If not for Kreese, I think Daniel and Johnny would’ve learned to co-exist, and Silver would’ve stayed in that other life style he was in before Kreese recruited him. Basically stated, none of the bad stuff started till Kreese appeared.
The one thing I think Johnny needs to do is apologise to Daniel for how he treated in the past. I love cobra kai and johnny is my favourite character but I do think sometimes ppl r biased to the cobra kais.
In Daniels defense. Whenever someone says he’s the bad guy they look past what cobra kai did in karate kid 3. Barnes brutalized him and so did the other cobra kais in 1984
Cobra Beats well Jonny learned from kreese n it’s also the brand to cobra Kai if Jonny would had name his dojo something else Daniel probably wouldn’t have cared
Cobra Beats yeah he did but that’s in the second season after what they did to Robby he realized that fighting dirty he was wrong but Jonny letting kreese back was his biggest mistake
When I was watching I had a couple of thoughts that really amount to everyone just talking to each other. Johnny had a big chance when he found out that Daniel was taking care of his son and you did point out that Daniel should have simply asked Johnny about why his daughter was there. I think my biggest issue with season two was how it ended because the kids broke a boatload of laws in that fight. I'm having trouble seeing a way out for them but I'm excited to see what direction they do go in.
Daniel is absolutely the villian & all around bad guy. So smug & self-righteous. He borders on being a psycho with how much he lies, his obsession, his scheming, & manipulation. I know most people can't think for themselves & can only eat what the show feeds them but if you have any critical thinking you can see how messed up Daniel actually is.
Daniel is sometimes selfish and hot-headed. I think Mr. Miyagi kept him calm but now that Miyagi is gone, I think he struggles. He knows what's right and wrong deep-down. I don't like the way the character is written. He's obsessed with Cobra Kai and doesn't take the time to listen to Johnny about how he wanted to teach Cobra Kai differently. I do think that Daniel was rude in joking around with Johnny at the dealership but also when he uses terms like "people like him...." The true bad guy? I think it's fickle Samantha. She can't make up her mind. Tells Miguel that she's grounded and brings Robby to a party and gets caught. She kisses Miguel while dating Robby and while Miguel is dating Tory. I do side with Daniel about going to Johnny's house to find Samantha. If my daughter were tracked to a middle-aged guy's house, I'd go, too. That said, when I found out that Sam was drunk and Johnny was protecting her, I'd thank him but tell him that he should have called me.
Let it be known here and now that Daniel Larusso is struggling with PTSD from the abuse,harassment, and emotional manipulations he suffered at the hands of Cobra Kai in The Karate Kid and The Karate Kid part 3 that he’s repressed until now and the later seasons of the show MUST show him properly working through his trauma in therapy
You are very smart that is so right it seems like you and I are the only one in this comment section who accually know the effect of trauma and bullying people just don't understand that trauma isn't something you just get over in time you just learn how to deal with it with the propper help and support and or advice but people like to compete with one another and just turn things into a pissing contest it's ridiculous
But he overcame that a long time ago. Danny continuing to rub his victory over Johnny Lawrence is like what if America kept rubbing it in Japan's face that they nuked them more than half a century ago in WW2. That, and even in Karate Kid, Danny was the one being belligerent; Johnny Lawrence only kicked his ass for interfering in a matter that wasn't his.
Daniel has been the villain since day ONE all Johnny wanted to do was open cobra kai to get money to help himself and to help kids that get bullied but “ he just couldn’t leave well enough alone he had to push it “
Captain America is because Captain America is full of himself like Daniel Captain America is most respected one like Daniel Captain America acts like he is the best option to be a role model like Daniel
Kreese never tried to shut down someone's small business by jacking up the price tag. Nor did he try to get a dojo banned from the tournament. In fact, he even agreed to leave Miyagi-Do alone and focus on the tournament, only if Miyagi-Do does the same. He even agrees to shut down Cobra Kai if Miyagi-Do defeats them in the All Valley Tournament. Kreese is an unstable nutcase, but he at least has a sense of honor that Daniel LaRusso totally lacked in the first season. He's also more pragmatic than Danny-boy; Danny rejects any Eagle Fang influence in his dojo, whereas Kreese accepted Robby teaching Miyagi-Do techniques to Cobra Kai's students, while studying the fighting style for its flaws.
When Daniel's daughter comes to Johnny, Johnny's first reaction is to tell Daniel. "He's her father" he says, explaining the reason to his son. When Johnny's son has no place to live, however, Danial keeps it a secret from Johnny, doesn't try to talk to the kid about going to live with his father, etc. thus intentionally facilitating the negative strand on the relationship between Johnny and his son. Daniel is a fucking snake. All his actions are of a back stabbing kind (the rent, the tournament permission, the kid, etc), he might not act out when it comes to simple face-to-face confrontation or relatively harmless pranks (like painting a dick), but he will poison your life slowly and methodically without you even knowing it was him or what happened.
Not true. When Johnny's son Robby had no place to live, Daniel didn't even KNOW that was Johnny's son. Robby purposely kept that information from Daniel. So Daniel did not keep it a secret from Johnny.
Johnny was the one to revive the rivalry in Cobra Kai not Daniel. Johnny was being rude when he met Daniel for the first time in a while in the first episode and Daniel was just trying to be nice to him. Now I am not saying Johnny is a bad person but when Daniel entered his dojo Johnny didn’t want to tell him why he reopened while Daniel thought he was doing it to create drama and bullying again so Johnny wasn’t helping in that situation all because he couldn’t let their old rivalry (that he started) go. Daniel was probably also thinking Johnny was training aggressive again so he could try and rise up against him and ruin Daniel’s life again.
Personally I think Daniel neither Johnny is the bully I just think Daniel took it too his advantage when Johnny couldn't hit him and then he took too far and I think Johnny was tryna help but he had to teach him something after what he did.
Remember: this whole stupid Dojo War was Daniel's fault. Not only did he set up MIyagi-Do as a big "F U" to Cobra Kai, even offering free karate as an unethical way to poach Johnny Lawrence's students, but him jacking up the rent in the mall and trying to ban Cobra Kai from the tournament shows that he is extremely petty. Thanks to his petty actions, the karate kids of the valley got divided like Montagues and Capulets, engaging in karate gang warfare, all because Danny-boy was a prick. Instead of supporting his former rival and trying to keep bad influences like John Kreese away from him, Danny just assumes the worst from his former rival and intensified the rivalry, until finally, Kreese responded by turning it into a legit karate war and declaring war on Miyagi-Do, because he, like Johnny, was getting tired of Danny's BS. That, and Danny should have taught Robby to forgive his father when Robby was in Miyagi-Do. Letting go of grudges and basking in serenity and compassion is what Miyagi would have wanted. Instead, Danny fed off of Robby's resentment for Johnny, which kept the kid unbalanced, which led to him lashing out in the school fight and crippling Miguel, which turned the LaRusso name into poison after Season 2. His wife had to remind him how his stupid karate rivalry was literally going to kill his business, and had it not been for some very powerful friends in Japan, he'd be out of business.
When he broke down Johnny's door in a way you have to sympathize with Danny because his daughter is in a stranger's home and he's not allowing him to go in so as a parent you have to sympathize that your child hasn't come home and they are shown to be at a certain location and somebody's not allowing you in
But Johnny wasn't a stranger. He was a former customer and an acquaintance. Also, the father of his daughter's boyfriend, which, if Robby and Sam tied the knot, would make Johnny his brother in law.
Come on guys the only villain in that movie and the 3rd one is kreese. Danny and Johnny were both victims and I think the show has proven that fairly clear. Kreese bullied Johnny and he took it out on Danny.
Over reacting? A guy's under age daughter in this guy's house.. Who you may have a certain peace with.. but still that's YOUR daughter. Yes Johnny should have let him in. Daniel should have talked. But that's always been the issue.
@Hannah Nealon and Daniel was oblivious they were even going out.. Plus as far as I know Daniel didn't have a message that Robbie was drunk and the cops were called.
He should have called Johnny's house and ascertained the truth. Kicking down his door like that, Danny-boy should have been locked up behind bars for a night for that offense.
If we look at the whole series from the beginning, Daniel is the real bully of the entire story. Everything happened because of him; if he hadn't started messing with Johnny over a name and a drawing, even trying to strangle him financially, none of this would have happened. Kreese wouldn't have taken over Cobra Kai and Miguel wouldn't have ended up in a coma, caused by one of Daniel's students. And even after this incident, he feels no guilt and instead blames everything on Johnny, continuing to impose his style without ever listening to any of his students even once. Johnny, on the other hand, grows and matures and has an excellent ability to listen, unlike Daniel, who, like a crazy religious fanatic, becomes overbearing by constantly talking about Mr. Miyagi. Mr. Miyagi, who, moreover, didn't want him to fight in any tournament, imagine what he would think if he knew a karate team was named after him. Daniel is a braggart even in Karate Kid; at the beginning, he bullies others by claiming he knows karate, and even in Karate Kid 3, he decides on opponents from the previous year. In Cobra Kai, he is always the one provoking and causing the reactions of the opponents; he even offers free competition. Not only that, when he collaborates with Johnny knowing that a baby girl is about to be born and he needs to put his family in order, he completely disregards it, preventing a talent from shining and performing his true job. He goes as far as to cheat in a head-to-head against Johnny by using the pressure point move that Chozen told him to use only in extreme cases, and even against Silver, who repeatedly apologizes and tries to be tolerant, Daniel keeps provoking again and again, awakening all his demons with the unrequested help of Kreese, who gives the final blow. It was LaRusso who recreated the enemy, and as if that wasn't enough, for the tournament Johnny is impartial with both Miguel and Robby, even training all four contenders for the captain's spot. Instead, that s.o.b. Daniel only trains his daughter and her boyfriend to favor her and then tries to insert the weakest of all, Anthony, complaining to Johnny for not choosing the strongest. Daniel is a hypocritical fanatic. He even fails to recognize Mr. Miyagi because, as a young man, he made a mistake, spitting on everything Mr. Miyagi did for him. I see Daniel in the series appearing as the nastiest of all with that hypocritical air of always believing he is on the right side. Mr. Miyagi knew that Daniel had this malice inside and controlled it; in fact, he kept saying karate lessons are for life, not for tournaments. Daniel has a family but no friends except for his relatives.
2:38 You mean as opposed to the actual independent scheme of Robby? The boy was a liar and a thief. Daniel does come around exactly when Robby needs him during the tournament. 3:00. Uh, No. it’s literally SOMEONE ELSES NAME. And it’s not when he sees he’s doing well, it’s when the boy needs him. Daniel never says Miyagi Do is his. He always gives credit to Mr. Miyagi. QUESTION: What if Kreese was the one bringing back Cobra Kai and teaching these kids as we see him doing at the end os S2. Would you still be supportive of Cobra Kai? I would say that Daniel is definitely a hot head, with a chip on his shoulder (always was). I really want him and Johnny to team up by the end of S3. S4 can be about how they take down Kreese, but they need to bring back Terry Silver and Mike Barnes. Daniel is by no means perfect, but your arguments are factually inaccurate. However, you did a fine job of editing and this was still a fun video about a great show. So happy it is finally getting the attention it deserves.
This is why I stopped watching the show halfway through the first season. I don’t mind villains being rehabilitated, but you make the primary hero of the past the villain, I draw the line.
Yes I think Daniel is the real bad guy because in the fist Karate kid he started the fight with him and Johnny and in Karate kid 2 he started it with chozen and the 3rd Karate kid was not his fault but in Cobra Kai he is the real bad guy.
@@Realestone302 Yes I watched them many times but when Chozen shook Daniels hand I will admit even though Chozen's my favorite he was in the wrong but Daniel could of left it alone but when he broke the weight when Chozen and his friends were doing stuff he started that and took Chozens honor away and that led to him to get beat up I can tell your a Daniel fan but yeah
@@Realestone302 Oh he started the fight with Johnny by hitting on hid ex and doing the same as my other comment when he could of left well enough alone
Season like Johnny is a better protagonist good ones from you and John Rich good once Daniel Russo got rich, basically uses powers to destroy Johnny Lawrence
Daniel was never the bad guy maybe never Johnny. It was the way how Johnny was thought that was bad. Before Cobra Kai Daniel let go of his past even Ali and Kumiko. As for Johnny he was never able to let it go. He couldn't let go of Ali and also abandoned his own son Robby because of his rivalry with Daniel. As for Daniel he is trying to be a good husband he just wants to be more than a car salesman. Opening Miyagi-Do karate was just one of the ways of being an entreprenuer.
He never failed.. He never expected to buy the strip mall. Granted he was short sighted.. But a grudge? Seriously. Johnny and his 4 friends could have beat him to death. Daniel is a hot head.. but he takes Robby back in.. but you are tilting your view just a bit.
Thank you! I am talking for years about how much Daniel is rotten to the core. I hate him, his daughter, son and cousin deeply. Always hated this MF excluding few good moments, but most moments with him were bad. What you said here is a bit of what he did wrong but 100 % correct. He also has many potential prison years.
No Danielle LaRusso is not the villain at all just has some misguided insecurities about him that I know that he probably has according to show and the movies themselves themselves goes even deeper even before we do to the movies according to him as Danielle LaRusso thinking that self-defense is the only way And Johnny thinks self offense is the only way all will intrude to say is this I did both right both defense and offense is in fact the same thing they have to defend themselves in a match technically speaking in reality it’s not like that you don’t fight for defense in real life if you go through what I went through when I did taekwondo myself yes I did have some experience with it and know that I’m 44 year old adult trying to get involved again you always go by that philosophy that defense is the only way to do it is not the way at all when you do it in a match Match that second place is not as bad as losing because there’s always been one winner and that one winner is the higher up runner and runner second winner so the movie karate kid guess who is the better fighter both Danielle and Johnny they do have a shared destiny and I am going to write the Sequel to the movies that should be told I don’t have going on so we do need pre-calls and we do need karate to keep us balanced. I do it to keep myself balanced. That’s why I keep myself going pretty much and I do have some personal experience with taekwondo myself , and it is true That you would know That your defense is offense when someone says that your best defense is your offense sometimes it is good to have offense order to have defense goes good with any sport whatsoever, but I don’t. I have done Special Olympics and I have down syndrome and respectful if you do say anything back to me about me having down syndrome or, don’t call me retarded please don’t I want you to know that I am a new subscriber here to you and I am supposed to know you’re going to say what your condition has something to do with this video. Here is very valid question because I know you would ask me that , I took taekwondo background was like 13 years old and never lasted that long too much time to do it, but I had to think about getting back into it again, but here’s the thing about this whole defense and offense you can’t have defense without your offense, same thing, you can’t have your offense without your defense defense and karate match you will lose both for the right time to strike first ordered the score point and I want you to know that and tell you that because of your real here And the reasons for it is this that just because someone says your best defense is your offense. I’m thinking defense is the only way to do it. No offense is the only way to do it to show you that you’re both right because they think that other person is wrong and the other is right and is right and is wrong of saying that and say both is right because they’re both the same thing being defensive and offensive. The same thing makes sense that way, but when you look at it from my point of view, you would understand because I know you would, but now I have a video for you to do. What is the problem with Amanda LaRusso with her securities and her rival or her daughter and not actually talking with her about the problems that are both facing that is a video that you can do because I’m new to your channel now as of your a new friend and a brand new Subscriber, I know that you will be respectful and not say damn God as I give you that be awesome And God bless
blue tornado exactly. This guy clearly would not make a good father, because most intelligent fathers would stop at nothing to get through that door. That’s his daughter and he has no idea how she is. Sure, Daniel got very angry but it makes sense why
Johnny tried talking to Daniel about it, but before he could say much of anything Daniel is already assuming the worst and is behaving poorly. He isn't a bad guy, but not acting like a rational person either.
Daniel LaRusso is not a villain - let alone; *the villain* of The Karate Kid/Cobra Kai series. If anything he is presented as ‘misunderstood.’ One could suggest: he is the Grinch of the franchise. And like the Grinch from the book/movies, Daniel can find his way back to the light (again) and become a better, more humble man 🙂. As for the identity of the one true villain of the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai franchise, is none other than...JOHN KREESE!
In real life he was woman beater,somehow his rotton character in life shows in danial,it would be realistic if barnes chizen johnny silver kreese fully mature and he goes of rails and ends up diwn and out and they firgive him but its kast xhance your spoult brat ways wont be tolerated again,its embaressing hes supposed to be the good guy,so unrealistic,johnny should of been good guy and won,danial is not good he teally is not
I understand that Daniel fought Johnny because that’s he fricking daughter. If I knew my daughter was at my enemies house and my enemy wasn’t letting me in I’d mess him up. So I understand why he did what he did.
Oh let me guess this video is gonna say Daniel was the villain well no he wasn’t he was the karate kid and always is and he didn’t do anything Johnny is not the villain either it’s Kresse and Hawk and cobra Kai
Zachle Mentor yea, Daniel was always telling the truth and was right all along. Some people fail to understand that. However, he messed up by not telling Johnny about how dangerous bringing back Cobra Kai truly was. He should’ve told him about how dangerous Silver and Barnes were and how they tried to ruin his life. Unfortunately Kreese being back will probably now lead to Silver and Barnes making a return to help Cobra Kai. Daniel was definitely right about not trusting Cobra Kai
James Scheuermann what? No not at all lol. The reason Kreese was able to take Cobra Kai back was because he owned the rights to it. Miyagi Do or not he was taking it back. Daniel has nothing to do with it
Neither was the hero and neither was the villain... What the show does really well is to prove there is not just black and white... there are grey areas and everyone is the hero in their own story... that is the point... Although Kreese could be an exception to that rule...
I think after Miyagi went to COBRA Kai he should have went back there and talked to kreese and and explained how Daniel was a troubled kid and used his students to teach Daniel the true meaning of karate
Even in karate kid he annoyed johnny and he's gonna complain he's a big bully if he didn't messed with johnny's girlfriend they wouldn't need to fight in the first place
@@rickyplaysyt4322 firstly johnny and ali was only arguing there goes daniel being a hero like arguing is normal you dont need to save the day or what that's why johnny messed with daniel he's just making fun of him then there goes daniel punches johnny second in the halloween where daniel is wearing a shower as a costume johnny is minding his own business then there goes daniel pours water on him have you watched the movie? Like seriously?
Season 3 confirm for January 8 and season 4 greenlit
Can’t wait 😊
Let's go I love Cobra Kai so much I like Johnny in the first one I never liked Daniel I hope Daniel dies in a pit of fire
Just now
Yes man waiting for it
Yesss I can't waittt
In *The Karate kid* movie 🍿-- Daniel is your*Hero*
In *Cobra Kai* 🐍 S1 -- Johnny is your*Hero*
In *Cobra Kai* 🐍 S2 -- They both have different perceptions
Yeah but it makes me feel that Johnny and Daniel should be teaming up for miyagi-do because Johnny is out of the dojo of Cobra kai well that’s a *spoiler alert ! *
In Cobra Kai S3 the Cobra Kai's are total scumbags
I think Samantha is the biggest villain of the show. when accusing Tory of stealing when finding out she didn’t do it never apologize. Getting piss drunk the day robbys mother checked into a rehab center and cheating on him. Never once does she clear the air and tells her father that Robby didn’t want her to drink instead let’s Mr.LaRusso reassure her she isn’t a bad kid. That sounds like some crazy enabling
Don't forget that she sits by as her popular friends trash her old friends and she does nothing.
You’re right. Totally worse than trying to kill people. Or breaking into someone’s house. She’s clearly the villain because she kissed a guy someone else dated for two weeks and accused someone of stealing. That’s next level shit
@@MrTambourineMan. I'm not saying others are not wrong but maybe if she'd stop making love triangles and actually help someone things wouldn't have escalated to burglary and attempted homicide
She is very off putting, I'm on season 4 now and like yeahhh.
even in season 1 she was an opp
6:24 Yeah but Sam is to blame for not taking full accountability for her actions. She's the reason that the rivalry started with Daniel and Johnny, she's the reason there were problems at her father's delarship, she's the reason that the fights escalated with Robby and Miguel, she's the reason the school fight started, she's the reason Miguel went to the Hospital, and she's the reason Robby got put in Juvie.
Yeah same here.
Sensei Johnny is the real victim in Cobra Kai.
He tried so hard to change his ways , and to teach good quality Karate .
I mean, look all his student's are Kids who get bullied from school .
And He show them the Way for life.
-Strike First
-Strike Hard
-No Mercy
If you think about it, is not even so stupid .
My opinion.
Everyone knows this
He almost choked kyle all over his own precious car 🚗 plus protection of a teenager who didn't even know when to mind his own business.
Even after the cops 👮 💂 👲 👳 👴 👵 👤 👥 🚓 🚔 🚎 🚐 🚚 🚛 🚗 🚘 🚣 🚁 ⛵ 🚲 🚨 themselves Especially plain clothes detectives simply placed a judge issued court order to refrain from such bad credit antics already mentioned somewhat Including allowing cobra 🐍 kai kar8 group sensei johnny kreese back into his own personal life after he tried to advance too quickly.
Months went by and no one bothered anyone else yet still taught Miguel awful revenge fantasies
In season 2 though
He was making such great progress
Jhonny and the Cobra Kai may have been the bullies in the first 2 Karate Kid movies but in the Cobra Kai series, Danielle takes on the bully role and can’t see past the fact that Jhonny has the potential to change. It seems like Daniel has forgotten everything Mr Miyagi has taught him after he passed.
Let's all forget that Johnny is alcholic feels sorry for him self and worst of all dinks and gets behind the wheel of a car so I guess Danny is an awful human being and johnny is all perfect can do no wrong no both have serious issues not just one
@@grandmastermario3695 Except Miyagi never tried to sabotage someone's business. We never saw him try to shut down John Kreese's dojo, for instance. Nor did we see him try to sabotage Terry Silver's businesses.
Did you forget the end of season 1? Miguel and Hawk became bullies
@marrychrismas306 oh great it's this fuckin' guy again.
No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher.
Roasted (i Hope this is the word, english is not my birth language)
daniel had the best teacher
True Connor
@@Socks294 of course, Kreese is obviously the bad teacher!
I mean I kinds feel thats kinda right and wrong Daniel never taught robby to kick Miguel of the railing
I like that the show made Daniel have some villainous moments it's one of the contributing factors the the lack of a black and white dynamic in the show
Truthfully, after the third movie with Barns and Silver, what they did to him is enough to give the guy PTSD for life. And on top of that he lost his best friend who gave him strength in all this.
So he loses his best friend. Then he sees his child hood bully start up a karate organization that tormented him for years, and it all escalated from there. So while he instigated a lot of what happened mental illness is real. Danial never got the professional help he needed, all that happened was he beat Barns and Cobra Kai was exposed, so he didn’t have to deal with it all. So when he saw that his childhood bully after all these years brought back Cobra Kai, it brought everything back to the surface, and from there all of his past enemies like John Kreese, and Silver. It was clearly more than he could handle.
In my conclusion Daniel is every bit the victim Johnny was. He’s not fully to blame and not the bad guy. I actually think that John Kreese is the villain he stole Johnny’s dojo, and pulled Silver back in after running a muck. If not for Kreese, I think Daniel and Johnny would’ve learned to co-exist, and Silver would’ve stayed in that other life style he was in before Kreese recruited him. Basically stated, none of the bad stuff started till Kreese appeared.
The one thing I think Johnny needs to do is apologise to Daniel for how he treated in the past. I love cobra kai and johnny is my favourite character but I do think sometimes ppl r biased to the cobra kais.
In Daniels defense. Whenever someone says he’s the bad guy they look past what cobra kai did in karate kid 3. Barnes brutalized him and so did the other cobra kais in 1984
Also in Daniels defense Robby is Jonny son so technically Jonny abandoned Robby not Daniel
Yeah but that’s kreese not Johnny
Cobra Beats well Jonny learned from kreese n it’s also the brand to cobra Kai if Jonny would had name his dojo something else Daniel probably wouldn’t have cared
Yeah But he changed cobra Kai
Cobra Beats yeah he did but that’s in the second season after what they did to Robby he realized that fighting dirty he was wrong but Jonny letting kreese back was his biggest mistake
STOP MIRRORING THE SHOW!! ITS ANNOYING!!
He has a family to take care of btw
Thank you for being the only person to talk about cobra Kai with a little bit of common sense
When I was watching I had a couple of thoughts that really amount to everyone just talking to each other. Johnny had a big chance when he found out that Daniel was taking care of his son and you did point out that Daniel should have simply asked Johnny about why his daughter was there. I think my biggest issue with season two was how it ended because the kids broke a boatload of laws in that fight. I'm having trouble seeing a way out for them but I'm excited to see what direction they do go in.
He's neither the hero nor the villain. He's a human being. Just like (nearly) everyone else in the Karate Kid universe.
Exactly. No one's the hero or villain, except kreese, kreese sucks
Exactly
Daniel is absolutely the villian & all around bad guy. So smug & self-righteous. He borders on being a psycho with how much he lies, his obsession, his scheming, & manipulation.
I know most people can't think for themselves & can only eat what the show feeds them but if you have any critical thinking you can see how messed up Daniel actually is.
He did say he was a hot head to the grave of miyagi
Daniel is sometimes selfish and hot-headed. I think Mr. Miyagi kept him calm but now that Miyagi is gone, I think he struggles. He knows what's right and wrong deep-down. I don't like the way the character is written. He's obsessed with Cobra Kai and doesn't take the time to listen to Johnny about how he wanted to teach Cobra Kai differently. I do think that Daniel was rude in joking around with Johnny at the dealership but also when he uses terms like "people like him...."
The true bad guy? I think it's fickle Samantha. She can't make up her mind. Tells Miguel that she's grounded and brings Robby to a party and gets caught. She kisses Miguel while dating Robby and while Miguel is dating Tory.
I do side with Daniel about going to Johnny's house to find Samantha. If my daughter were tracked to a middle-aged guy's house, I'd go, too. That said, when I found out that Sam was drunk and Johnny was protecting her, I'd thank him but tell him that he should have called me.
Let it be known here and now that Daniel Larusso is struggling with PTSD from the
abuse,harassment, and emotional manipulations he suffered at the hands of Cobra Kai in The Karate Kid and The Karate Kid part 3 that he’s repressed until now and the later seasons of the show MUST show him properly working through his trauma in therapy
You are very smart that is so right it seems like you and I are the only one in this comment section who accually know the effect of trauma and bullying people just don't understand that trauma isn't something you just get over in time you just learn how to deal with it with the propper help and support and or advice but people like to compete with one another and just turn things into a pissing contest it's ridiculous
But he overcame that a long time ago. Danny continuing to rub his victory over Johnny Lawrence is like what if America kept rubbing it in Japan's face that they nuked them more than half a century ago in WW2. That, and even in Karate Kid, Danny was the one being belligerent; Johnny Lawrence only kicked his ass for interfering in a matter that wasn't his.
everyone has their good sides and bad sides and that makes the show gray
Daniel has been the villain since day ONE all Johnny wanted to do was open cobra kai to get money to help himself and to help kids that get bullied but “ he just couldn’t leave well enough alone he had to push it “
Lightning bolt Daniel literally fixed his car for free...
@@generalgrievous1193 as an insult. Like "ohh I'm richer than you, here's some charity".
General Grievous AFTER he insulted Johnny for a laugh and to gas himself up
Shaheed Sadheo what he literally gave him a car and fixed his car if I was Daniel I wouldn’t fix shit for him
Shaheed Sadheo, finally someone sees what I’m seeing, Daniel fixed his car to say ‘I’m better than u’
I would consider Daniel the Tony Stark of this Civil-War.
Captain America is because
Captain America is full of himself like Daniel
Captain America is most respected one like Daniel
Captain America acts like he is the best option to be a role model like Daniel
Nah I'd do the same exact thing if I tracked my daughter's phone to some weird drunk 40 year old guy's house
They are on their 50's
@@rickyplaysyt4322 So, True
@@granddlsgamer8546 yeah
Seeing Miguel rise from the dead in the season 3 trailer was too good🔥
Daniel Son was very annoying in Cobra Kai
But now he’s becoming a karate fighter now
Kreese is the villain and i hate him whenever i see him in episodes. Getting on my nerves
Kreese never tried to shut down someone's small business by jacking up the price tag. Nor did he try to get a dojo banned from the tournament. In fact, he even agreed to leave Miyagi-Do alone and focus on the tournament, only if Miyagi-Do does the same. He even agrees to shut down Cobra Kai if Miyagi-Do defeats them in the All Valley Tournament. Kreese is an unstable nutcase, but he at least has a sense of honor that Daniel LaRusso totally lacked in the first season. He's also more pragmatic than Danny-boy; Danny rejects any Eagle Fang influence in his dojo, whereas Kreese accepted Robby teaching Miyagi-Do techniques to Cobra Kai's students, while studying the fighting style for its flaws.
Cant wait for January 8th
The narrator of this video distorted SO many details about Daniel Larusso's actions, it's mind boggling. I seriously hope this video is satire.
When Daniel's daughter comes to Johnny, Johnny's first reaction is to tell Daniel. "He's her father" he says, explaining the reason to his son.
When Johnny's son has no place to live, however, Danial keeps it a secret from Johnny, doesn't try to talk to the kid about going to live with his father, etc. thus intentionally facilitating the negative strand on the relationship between Johnny and his son.
Daniel is a fucking snake. All his actions are of a back stabbing kind (the rent, the tournament permission, the kid, etc), he might not act out when it comes to simple face-to-face confrontation or relatively harmless pranks (like painting a dick), but he will poison your life slowly and methodically without you even knowing it was him or what happened.
Not true. When Johnny's son Robby had no place to live, Daniel didn't even KNOW that was Johnny's son. Robby purposely kept that information from Daniel. So Daniel did not keep it a secret from Johnny.
Johnny was the one to revive the rivalry in Cobra Kai not Daniel. Johnny was being rude when he met Daniel for the first time in a while in the first episode and Daniel was just trying to be nice to him. Now I am not saying Johnny is a bad person but when Daniel entered his dojo Johnny didn’t want to tell him why he reopened while Daniel thought he was doing it to create drama and bullying again so Johnny wasn’t helping in that situation all because he couldn’t let their old rivalry (that he started) go. Daniel was probably also thinking Johnny was training aggressive again so he could try and rise up against him and ruin Daniel’s life again.
he is so cocky he is not my favourite anymore unlike how i like him when 1984
Personally I think Daniel neither Johnny is the bully I just think Daniel took it too his advantage when Johnny couldn't hit him and then he took too far and I think Johnny was tryna help but he had to teach him something after what he did.
Daniel was cocky in the Karate Kid movies, but I didn't hate him. I absolutely hate Daniel in the first season of Cobra Kai!
Remember: this whole stupid Dojo War was Daniel's fault. Not only did he set up MIyagi-Do as a big "F U" to Cobra Kai, even offering free karate as an unethical way to poach Johnny Lawrence's students, but him jacking up the rent in the mall and trying to ban Cobra Kai from the tournament shows that he is extremely petty. Thanks to his petty actions, the karate kids of the valley got divided like Montagues and Capulets, engaging in karate gang warfare, all because Danny-boy was a prick. Instead of supporting his former rival and trying to keep bad influences like John Kreese away from him, Danny just assumes the worst from his former rival and intensified the rivalry, until finally, Kreese responded by turning it into a legit karate war and declaring war on Miyagi-Do, because he, like Johnny, was getting tired of Danny's BS.
That, and Danny should have taught Robby to forgive his father when Robby was in Miyagi-Do. Letting go of grudges and basking in serenity and compassion is what Miyagi would have wanted. Instead, Danny fed off of Robby's resentment for Johnny, which kept the kid unbalanced, which led to him lashing out in the school fight and crippling Miguel, which turned the LaRusso name into poison after Season 2. His wife had to remind him how his stupid karate rivalry was literally going to kill his business, and had it not been for some very powerful friends in Japan, he'd be out of business.
When he broke down Johnny's door in a way you have to sympathize with Danny because his daughter is in a stranger's home and he's not allowing him to go in so as a parent you have to sympathize that your child hasn't come home and they are shown to be at a certain location and somebody's not allowing you in
But Johnny wasn't a stranger. He was a former customer and an acquaintance. Also, the father of his daughter's boyfriend, which, if Robby and Sam tied the knot, would make Johnny his brother in law.
Yes, Daniel is both the villain and an absolute jerk. Ali was smart to dump him.
Dude Kresse is teh real bad guy
Come on guys the only villain in that movie and the 3rd one is kreese. Danny and Johnny were both victims and I think the show has proven that fairly clear. Kreese bullied Johnny and he took it out on Danny.
Over reacting? A guy's under age daughter in this guy's house.. Who you may have a certain peace with.. but still that's YOUR daughter. Yes Johnny should have let him in. Daniel should have talked. But that's always been the issue.
@Hannah Nealon and Daniel was oblivious they were even going out.. Plus as far as I know Daniel didn't have a message that Robbie was drunk and the cops were called.
He should have called Johnny's house and ascertained the truth. Kicking down his door like that, Danny-boy should have been locked up behind bars for a night for that offense.
If we look at the whole series from the beginning, Daniel is the real bully of the entire story. Everything happened because of him; if he hadn't started messing with Johnny over a name and a drawing, even trying to strangle him financially, none of this would have happened. Kreese wouldn't have taken over Cobra Kai and Miguel wouldn't have ended up in a coma, caused by one of Daniel's students. And even after this incident, he feels no guilt and instead blames everything on Johnny, continuing to impose his style without ever listening to any of his students even once. Johnny, on the other hand, grows and matures and has an excellent ability to listen, unlike Daniel, who, like a crazy religious fanatic, becomes overbearing by constantly talking about Mr. Miyagi. Mr. Miyagi, who, moreover, didn't want him to fight in any tournament, imagine what he would think if he knew a karate team was named after him. Daniel is a braggart even in Karate Kid; at the beginning, he bullies others by claiming he knows karate, and even in Karate Kid 3, he decides on opponents from the previous year. In Cobra Kai, he is always the one provoking and causing the reactions of the opponents; he even offers free competition. Not only that, when he collaborates with Johnny knowing that a baby girl is about to be born and he needs to put his family in order, he completely disregards it, preventing a talent from shining and performing his true job. He goes as far as to cheat in a head-to-head against Johnny by using the pressure point move that Chozen told him to use only in extreme cases, and even against Silver, who repeatedly apologizes and tries to be tolerant, Daniel keeps provoking again and again, awakening all his demons with the unrequested help of Kreese, who gives the final blow. It was LaRusso who recreated the enemy, and as if that wasn't enough, for the tournament Johnny is impartial with both Miguel and Robby, even training all four contenders for the captain's spot. Instead, that s.o.b. Daniel only trains his daughter and her boyfriend to favor her and then tries to insert the weakest of all, Anthony, complaining to Johnny for not choosing the strongest. Daniel is a hypocritical fanatic. He even fails to recognize Mr. Miyagi because, as a young man, he made a mistake, spitting on everything Mr. Miyagi did for him. I see Daniel in the series appearing as the nastiest of all with that hypocritical air of always believing he is on the right side. Mr. Miyagi knew that Daniel had this malice inside and controlled it; in fact, he kept saying karate lessons are for life, not for tournaments. Daniel has a family but no friends except for his relatives.
2:38 You mean as opposed to the actual independent scheme of Robby? The boy was a liar and a thief. Daniel does come around exactly when Robby needs him during the tournament.
3:00. Uh, No. it’s literally SOMEONE ELSES NAME. And it’s not when he sees he’s doing well, it’s when the boy needs him. Daniel never says Miyagi Do is his. He always gives credit to Mr. Miyagi.
QUESTION: What if Kreese was the one bringing back Cobra Kai and teaching these kids as we see him doing at the end os S2. Would you still be supportive of Cobra Kai?
I would say that Daniel is definitely a hot head, with a chip on his shoulder (always was). I really want him and Johnny to team up by the end of S3. S4 can be about how they take down Kreese, but they need to bring back Terry Silver and Mike Barnes.
Daniel is by no means perfect, but your arguments are factually inaccurate.
However, you did a fine job of editing and this was still a fun video about a great show. So happy it is finally getting the attention it deserves.
Well-said.
This is why I stopped watching the show halfway through the first season. I don’t mind villains being rehabilitated, but you make the primary hero of the past the villain, I draw the line.
Season 3 comin soooooon
Daniel did get pushed off a hill by Johnny. So he deserves it all! Johnny needs to face his torment.
Yes I think Daniel is the real bad guy because in the fist Karate kid he started the fight with him and Johnny and in Karate kid 2 he started it with chozen and the 3rd Karate kid was not his fault but in Cobra Kai he is the real bad guy.
How did he start the fight with Chozen did you even watch the movie?how did he start the fight with Jonny your proving nothing right now
@@Realestone302 Yes I watched them many times but when Chozen shook Daniels hand I will admit even though Chozen's my favorite he was in the wrong but Daniel could of left it alone but when he broke the weight when Chozen and his friends were doing stuff he started that and took Chozens honor away and that led to him to get beat up I can tell your a Daniel fan but yeah
@@Realestone302 Oh he started the fight with Johnny by hitting on hid ex and doing the same as my other comment when he could of left well enough alone
CASH HARVEY Daniel did not know that he had a ex boyfriend and Daniel could hit since she didn’t have a boyfriend
CASH HARVEY Chozen trashed miyagi house in okanawa and tried to stab miyagi with a pitchfork he had no honor
Now his daughter is a different story, if it was my kid I would not be to happy either, I would just ask for her, not fight
The bad guy is Kreese...I thought we knew this already...
I think Daniel. And
Johnny should of
Closer and talk what
Happen back in 1984
Season like Johnny is a better protagonist good ones from you and John Rich good once Daniel Russo got rich, basically uses powers to destroy Johnny Lawrence
Technically, Daniel used a spinning outside crescent kick on the boba tea.
I think the true villain is Kreese
technically, he could be an anti-hero
Daniel was never the bad guy maybe never Johnny. It was the way how Johnny was thought that was bad. Before Cobra Kai Daniel let go of his past even Ali and Kumiko. As for Johnny he was never able to let it go. He couldn't let go of Ali and also abandoned his own son Robby because of his rivalry with Daniel. As for Daniel he is trying to be a good husband he just wants to be more than a car salesman. Opening Miyagi-Do karate was just one of the ways of being an entreprenuer.
He’s not a villain:; he’s just not perfect. Johnny isn’t perfect either.
The real villain is the cobra kai ideology and its psychotic developers
He never failed.. He never expected to buy the strip mall. Granted he was short sighted.. But a grudge? Seriously. Johnny and his 4 friends could have beat him to death. Daniel is a hot head.. but he takes Robby back in.. but you are tilting your view just a bit.
Daniel is good Johnny is kind of bad but KREESE IS THE REAL BAD GUY
Thank you! I am talking for years about how much Daniel is rotten to the core. I hate him, his daughter, son and cousin deeply. Always hated this MF excluding few good moments, but most moments with him were bad. What you said here is a bit of what he did wrong but 100 % correct. He also has many potential prison years.
No Danielle LaRusso is not the villain at all just has some misguided insecurities about him that I know that he probably has according to show and the movies themselves themselves goes even deeper even before we do to the movies according to him as Danielle LaRusso thinking that self-defense is the only way And Johnny thinks self offense is the only way all will intrude to say is this I did both right both defense and offense is in fact the same thing they have to defend themselves in a match technically speaking in reality it’s not like that you don’t fight for defense in real life if you go through what I went through when I did taekwondo myself yes I did have some experience with it and know that I’m 44 year old adult trying to get involved again you always go by that philosophy that defense is the only way to do it is not the way at all when you do it in a match Match that second place is not as bad as losing because there’s always been one winner and that one winner is the higher up runner and runner second winner so the movie karate kid guess who is the better fighter both Danielle and Johnny they do have a shared destiny and I am going to write the Sequel to the movies that should be told I don’t have going on so we do need pre-calls and we do need karate to keep us balanced. I do it to keep myself balanced. That’s why I keep myself going pretty much and I do have some personal experience with taekwondo myself , and it is true
That you would know That your defense is offense when someone says that your best defense is your offense sometimes it is good to have offense order to have defense goes good with any sport whatsoever, but I don’t. I have done Special Olympics and I have down syndrome and respectful if you do say anything back to me about me having down syndrome or, don’t call me retarded please don’t I want you to know that I am a new subscriber here to you and I am supposed to know you’re going to say what your condition has something to do with this video. Here is very valid question because I know you would ask me that , I took taekwondo background was like 13 years old and never lasted that long too much time to do it, but I had to think about getting back into it again, but here’s the thing about this whole defense and offense you can’t have defense without your offense, same thing, you can’t have your offense without your defense defense and karate match you will lose both for the right time to strike first ordered the score point and I want you to know that and tell you that because of your real here
And the reasons for it is this that just because someone says your best defense is your offense. I’m thinking defense is the only way to do it. No offense is the only way to do it to show you that you’re both right because they think that other person is wrong and the other is right and is right and is wrong of saying that and say both is right because they’re both the same thing being defensive and offensive. The same thing makes sense that way, but when you look at it from my point of view, you would understand because I know you would, but now I have a video for you to do.
What is the problem with Amanda LaRusso with her securities and her rival or her daughter and not actually talking with her about the problems that are both facing that is a video that you can do because I’m new to your channel now as of your a new friend and a brand new Subscriber, I know that you will be respectful and not say damn God as I give you that be awesome
And God bless
January 8th 😱😍🥰
why is the video flippped lol
Both of them would lose to Rambo.
I totally agree
Funny how you mention Daniel abandoning Robbie but don’t mention Johnny not being a good father figure to Daniel
And he said Daniel assulted him for no valid reason, as if his daughter wasn't in his house without his knowledge.
blue tornado exactly. This guy clearly would not make a good father, because most intelligent fathers would stop at nothing to get through that door. That’s his daughter and he has no idea how she is. Sure, Daniel got very angry but it makes sense why
@@generalgrievous1193 No, No, No, He just came into Johnny's house for no reason what so ever, broke his door, and attacked him.
Johnny tried talking to Daniel about it, but before he could say much of anything Daniel is already assuming the worst and is behaving poorly. He isn't a bad guy, but not acting like a rational person either.
That just makes Daniel just as bad as Johnny.
Daniel LaRusso is not a villain - let alone; *the villain* of The Karate Kid/Cobra Kai series. If anything he is presented as ‘misunderstood.’ One could suggest: he is the Grinch of the franchise. And like the Grinch from the book/movies, Daniel can find his way back to the light (again) and become a better, more humble man 🙂.
As for the identity of the one true villain of the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai franchise, is none other than...JOHN KREESE!
The real villain is John kresse and tory
Daniel Larusso Isn't Perfect
But This Slander Is Next Level
won't be tolerated
Tell me about it
- he was bullied and fooled by so many people over the years in th@ universe.
Starting with mother larusso
Yeah I think so man.
Daniel is the good guy for life
Yes he is a villain
Well, if you put it THAT way.
mr myigi will be impold with daniel
Danny is the real bully
No
danny boy was never a hero, just a protagonist.. shout out to the homie sting ray and vision. rip reese and free my nigga 🪙
Bailing Johnny out before Sid, just because he needs to get the last word! There’s nothing Daniel won’t do to make Johnny’s life a living hell... lol
Is this the dude from share my story?
I think daniel is a hero
In real life he was woman beater,somehow his rotton character in life shows in danial,it would be realistic if barnes chizen johnny silver kreese fully mature and he goes of rails and ends up diwn and out and they firgive him but its kast xhance your spoult brat ways wont be tolerated again,its embaressing hes supposed to be the good guy,so unrealistic,johnny should of been good guy and won,danial is not good he teally is not
I understand that Daniel fought Johnny because that’s he fricking daughter. If I knew my daughter was at my enemies house and my enemy wasn’t letting me in I’d mess him up. So I understand why he did what he did.
But they wasn't ennemy anymore.
Daniel Lansiquot, Johnny was going to let Daniel in, he just requested that Daniel cool down but Daniel decided to kick the door in his face
@@agnikaineverdies7646 What happened to some of your videos, man?
Oh let me guess this video is gonna say Daniel was the villain well no he wasn’t he was the karate kid and always is and he didn’t do anything Johnny is not the villain either it’s Kresse and Hawk and cobra Kai
Actually you are right
j2kseph Guzman agreed
Zachle Mentor yea, Daniel was always telling the truth and was right all along. Some people fail to understand that. However, he messed up by not telling Johnny about how dangerous bringing back Cobra Kai truly was. He should’ve told him about how dangerous Silver and Barnes were and how they tried to ruin his life. Unfortunately Kreese being back will probably now lead to Silver and Barnes making a return to help Cobra Kai. Daniel was definitely right about not trusting Cobra Kai
James Scheuermann well was Daniel wrong for telling Johnny he was making a mistake? He was right, bringing back Cobra Kai was a bad idea
James Scheuermann what? No not at all lol. The reason Kreese was able to take Cobra Kai back was because he owned the rights to it. Miyagi Do or not he was taking it back. Daniel has nothing to do with it
The real villain
Kreese?
Neither was the hero and neither was the villain... What the show does really well is to prove there is not just black and white... there are grey areas and everyone is the hero in their own story... that is the point... Although Kreese could be an exception to that rule...
I think after Miyagi went to COBRA Kai he should have went back there and talked to kreese and and explained how Daniel was a troubled kid and used his students to teach Daniel the true meaning of karate
Hello jello
Villain
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
barny from himym was right 🙄
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Even in karate kid he annoyed johnny and he's gonna complain he's a big bully if he didn't messed with johnny's girlfriend they wouldn't need to fight in the first place
He didnt messed with Ali, he was just being friends with her, and also she and johnny already broke up
@@rickyplaysyt4322 firstly johnny and ali was only arguing there goes daniel being a hero like arguing is normal you dont need to save the day or what that's why johnny messed with daniel he's just making fun of him then there goes daniel punches johnny second in the halloween where daniel is wearing a shower as a costume johnny is minding his own business then there goes daniel pours water on him have you watched the movie? Like seriously?