I've noticed we have hit the point where so many people have click baited this as a p2w game that the game is actually failing now. It's amazing that the concept of inventory management is foreign to so many people. Literally the only thing you need in this game is stash tabs and if you were to buy them it would be about the cost of a 40 buck game for quality of life. As for resurection scrolls... Get good, learn what resistences are. Or of course you could instant rez yourself through all the bosses then cry about how the game forces you to buy them because you kept getting shit on by mechanics and lack of game knowledge. As for buying power on the auction house, you don't ever really need to do that, most of the unique are not all that great and it's more about links and stuff in build that you don't get access to till later anyways. Most people hit act 5 when ice mobs become a problem then quit and run to reddit or youtube to bitch about how the game is harder to make you buy rez scrolls.
@@Mayhamsdead Holy necromancy. I mean I never actually bought stash tabs and got to end game playing the game. But yes I guess I did kinda suggest it. Because at the end of the day you should expect to spend something on a game you play made by a company. The game is F2p with money spent for convenience, or you could just not and move the hell on. FFS why do people get so mad when a company puts an optional way for them to make some money off a product they put out for people to partake in. People want free 2 play, with all the bell sand whistles so much, yet they forget that companies don't make this shit just so you can have something to do. They expect to make money off the game in some type of way and people actually do spend said money, or companies wouldn't continue to put out this model. FOH. You don't even need to buy all the stash tabs at end game to have the inventory management to play it. But that is neither here or there since this game isn't very relevant anymore anyways.
9:51 Unfortunately, it's not possible to just avoid the cash shop and "enjoy the game for what it is" b/c the game is built around making you spend money. The devs intentionally made specific design decisions to cause strife and problems for players, and then they turned around and offered to sell you the solution. This is incredibly toxic game design and certainly shouldn't be supported, let alone rewarded. I spent about 30-ish hours on the game, got to the middle of Act 5 and quit. By the time I was in Act 3, and especially in Act 4, the sheer amount of worthless currency drops was so much that I would either have to spend hours trying to upgrade them at the alchemy table or buy the specific stash tab I would need to store them all w/o issue. Part of the reason for this is b/c the currency drops are intentionally split b/w regular versions and "exclusive" versions. You might be wondering what the difference b/w a regular currency drop and an "exclusive" currency drop is. Let me tell you -- not a damn thing. The ONLY reason for its existence is to take up additional space in your stash (b/c the two types do not stack and just about every currency type -- and there are literally dozens -- has an "exclusive" variant) and push you that much closer to the point where you *need* to buy a stash tab. I'm not even sure if I want to get into the issue of the rune essences and the god awful rates to actually roll a 3-link on your spell runes, let alone a 4-link and above. It is yet another way that the devs push you to spend money...ESPECIALLY b/c you can actually buy the rune essences for real money (real money -> diamonds -> rubies -> essences). This game is basically what you'd get if you wanted a half-assed version of Path of Exile with Diablo Immortal's level of toxic monetization. Skip this one if you don't want to spend money b/c being free-to-play is not something that is realistically possible.
This. Hope anyone who's interested to jump in will read this comment and steer clear. Ridiculous design but it was known how bad the game is for a long time, Koreans were complaining about the cash shop from the very beginning, and if Koreans find it too P2W then you know it's serious 🤡
I don't think enough was said on this review. You can directly buy currency and buy gear with it. It is 100% pay 2 win, not just some elements.The boss difficulty is to get you to buy ressurection scrolls. The rune system upgrade which provides insane power, is meant for you to purchase upgrades. Games whole system is to get you to spend money. Which to be fair is most mobile games. Is game fun? Yes ,it can be. But there needs to be a psa that this game is a have more fun if you pay the game more, crafting slots, alchemy slots. Coming from a player who spent $ also.
That's because Vulcan has become very soft and PEGI 12 with his reviews. Sugarcoating a lot. Game is a trash mobile Asian ARPG game with full on Asian P2W monetization. Not even worth installing if you're a PC player, no healthy person wants buying power for money in their ARPG 😅 Whole game is designed so that you can solve problems they've created with money. Disgusting.
I never rely on Vulkan for useful reviews. I mean I like his take on the games far as it goes but he NEVER gives the negatives. Basically you'd think every game he mentions is the next greatest game ever if you watch his videos.
To be fair, if you are just slamming birth essence on gear then you did not read how the other essence work and how you can be very deterministic in your crafting. Also you do not need "crafting slots" to craft gear, as far as "crafting slots" are concerned it is for the alchemy bench for combining runes/essences, upgrading runes to higher tier one, and making potions.
I think I had saw some gameplay footage for this that looked good but all the steam reviews say this is an overly monetized cash grab at its worse. So after seeing that not even going to bother.
You almost sold the game to me but having to use a rare currency to even know what the affixes on an item are an having partially revealed items sounds extremely frustrating. This is a loot based game so presumably the further you get, the higher the drop rate of what is effectively garbage gear that you can at best sell for some currency or other, meaning you can easily end up wasting a large amount of your rare currency on trash. And when you try to cut your losses and don't use more than a little currency on gear that already has 2/5 mediocre affixes or something you can easily miss out on gear, useful gear that makes up by having 3 strong affixes or such but you will never know cause you are forced to save as much of the affix revealing currency as possible since it's rare. I've played games like this and it can easily kill most of the fun of finding new loot.
@@Vulkan_Gaming yeah that and its got software that disables antivirus its also hella pay to win from what i keep getting told by friends the games systems and mechanics would do well in a paid normal full release game
its nProtect and game gaurd used by alot of asian games. They added a tool to uninstall it properly if you are done with game. There is a guide to manaually remove the files and reg codes as well. Tbh might as well just go play lost ark over this
No its not Malware. Its an anti-cheat program called GameGuard. It has Kernel level access to your system, which basically just means it can directly access your hardware and system files without asking your operating system for permission first. Which is how a lot of malware works. And that probably causes a lot of false positives in anti-malware & anti-virus software causing the confusion.
I am currently on last boss act10 out of 10 and didn't spend any money on it, the bosses are challenging but if you learn mechanics you beat them without scrolls. If you need to buy stash space before end game you doing something wrong for sure. Story is very good I wouldn't call it perfect but is good. People are calling this game shit cause they are stuck on act 5 boss or they did t even play it. Item shop is not that bad comparing it to lost ark. Wow you can play the game as a f2p stop saying you can't. I know people in high end game and they just spent money on stash tabs. Rootkit right what about the other games, they are doing it as well. Nprotect is known for years. They already did a removal app and people are still complaining
It is a good game *BUT* the cash shop is extremely OP. $10 for 28 days of pet ability use, that's even if you *buy a pet* from the shop. You must still pay for using its ability every 28 day's.Thats just one of many examples.
you kill things soo fast that you gotta really pay for a pet that auto loots, this game is very time consuming and is a chore to play without the convenience items which is VERY EXPENSIVE.....
@@hardxkor6561 And that's how it's intended to work :D First get a player hooked without the need to swipe, then slowly introduce design choices to make you more and more frustrated with limitations of a F2P player, and then offer you solutions for their purposely created design flaws for you to buy with $$ :D Good luck !
You say that like you're onto something but it's just not accurate. Unless you've made it further than I have what do you mean? How has this specific game frustrated you yet? Have you even tried? I played Diablo Immortal, ran a clan Den of Evil on Helliquary, paid $250+ and regret every second of game time there because it was pointless. This game doesn't net you special items that takes years to upgrade. I don't feel like I'm wasting time and it isn't the same D3 reskin. It's rather refreshing. Trust me I didn't want to try it because people screamed the same P2W shit about this game and I just assumed they were right. I'm personally glad I didn't allow it to prevent me from trying. I'll gladly update if I ever hit a paywall
This is a game with really predatory monetization. Please don't push games like this to your audience. I've already unsubbed from Fextralife for doing the same thing, and being a defensive ass about it when he got called out. He even deleted a bunch of comments bringing up his lack of coverage of the bad monetization. I know sponsorships are probably a decent chunk of your income, but please recommend better games that aren't so predatory
At the minimum, you should mention how much they push their microtransactions on the players, even if it is a fun game. We don't need more of these types of games.
Vulkan has become a PEGI 12 RUclipsr, it's like he's trying way too hard to not shit on something that's shit :) don't know why am i still subscribed if i see this over and over again with his videos. A lot of sugarcoating. It wasn't like this when he had less subscribers. That's a shame.
@@momoqc9951 "finished the game" 😂 yeah, you can finish any ARPG with one eye closed and second with 50% vision and half a brain, because campaign in an ARPG is a tutorial. Real game/challenge begins after that, that's where monetization kicks in hard. You're clueless about how the whole genre works 🤡
Warning: Game also downloads software that is highly difficult to remove. Not necessarily malware but not great either. Many steam reviews detail this.
@@momoqc9951 No there is a difference with this one at least initially and according to the reports on steam and some other threads: 1. No warning it was going to be installed. 2. It's left on your system indefinitely when you uninstall the game which is unethical in my opinion. 3. GameGuard (at least in this case) did not come with an uninstaller. And people are having a hard time finding one. (Now this may be the people's fault I don't know.)
did people forget about their rootkit that literally scans whatever your pc processes and is also a keylogger, if you don't mind them knowing everything you do on your pc, than you know, go for gold, I do like the look of the game, but that rootkit is a massive red flag for me
Terrible biased review clearly influenced by "Sponsorship". Used to enjoy your videos but thinking time to unsubscribe. Not heard anyone say cash shop is just pay for convenience. It is a blatant pay for power with deliberate problems only solved by paying cash. It's a shame as at first glance it does look pretty and does have some interesting ideas.
There is a HUGE elephant in the room and it's the monetization. It has been shown over and over that money truly buys power in this game. Sadly, no matter how great the game is, it is tainted with "swipe your credit card" mantra all over the place.
I don't mind p2w as I mostly play solo. The game's not as bad as people say, but the gameplay is rather dull. I couldn't continue playing after hour 7.
I am not a fan of Diablo immortal for the same reason I hate any game of the same type, shameless monetization mechanic that put absurd number of pay walls to prevent you from ever achieving pvp competent build unless you open your wallet and drop tons of cash. Games like diablo immortal only cater to "whales" and treat free players as cannon fodder for their paying customers entertainment....i cannot condone any such games....and undecember chose to follow in diablo immortals footsteps so it goes on my "not worth the mental stress" list of games.
Hmmmm.... I think I'm going to stick with Torchlight Infinite. The RNG component of unlocking rune links and identifying item affixes reminds me of the worst parts of PoE. The cash shop straight selling crafting materials is a huge turn off too. I would be interested to hear how much time buying crafting materials saves you. It just sounds like they went way too hard on the game's monetization.
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Yo man. You haven't really uploaded much in a while. Hope you're doing okay, and didn't take all the criticism too personally. Take care of yourself.
I've noticed we have hit the point where so many people have click baited this as a p2w game that the game is actually failing now. It's amazing that the concept of inventory management is foreign to so many people. Literally the only thing you need in this game is stash tabs and if you were to buy them it would be about the cost of a 40 buck game for quality of life. As for resurection scrolls... Get good, learn what resistences are. Or of course you could instant rez yourself through all the bosses then cry about how the game forces you to buy them because you kept getting shit on by mechanics and lack of game knowledge. As for buying power on the auction house, you don't ever really need to do that, most of the unique are not all that great and it's more about links and stuff in build that you don't get access to till later anyways. Most people hit act 5 when ice mobs become a problem then quit and run to reddit or youtube to bitch about how the game is harder to make you buy rez scrolls.
Did you really just unironically suggest people pay forty fucking dollars for stash tabs before they can enjoy the game?
@@Mayhamsdead Holy necromancy. I mean I never actually bought stash tabs and got to end game playing the game. But yes I guess I did kinda suggest it. Because at the end of the day you should expect to spend something on a game you play made by a company. The game is F2p with money spent for convenience, or you could just not and move the hell on. FFS why do people get so mad when a company puts an optional way for them to make some money off a product they put out for people to partake in. People want free 2 play, with all the bell sand whistles so much, yet they forget that companies don't make this shit just so you can have something to do. They expect to make money off the game in some type of way and people actually do spend said money, or companies wouldn't continue to put out this model. FOH. You don't even need to buy all the stash tabs at end game to have the inventory management to play it. But that is neither here or there since this game isn't very relevant anymore anyways.
@@palicodonfluffles Textbook.
9:51 Unfortunately, it's not possible to just avoid the cash shop and "enjoy the game for what it is" b/c the game is built around making you spend money. The devs intentionally made specific design decisions to cause strife and problems for players, and then they turned around and offered to sell you the solution. This is incredibly toxic game design and certainly shouldn't be supported, let alone rewarded.
I spent about 30-ish hours on the game, got to the middle of Act 5 and quit. By the time I was in Act 3, and especially in Act 4, the sheer amount of worthless currency drops was so much that I would either have to spend hours trying to upgrade them at the alchemy table or buy the specific stash tab I would need to store them all w/o issue. Part of the reason for this is b/c the currency drops are intentionally split b/w regular versions and "exclusive" versions. You might be wondering what the difference b/w a regular currency drop and an "exclusive" currency drop is. Let me tell you -- not a damn thing. The ONLY reason for its existence is to take up additional space in your stash (b/c the two types do not stack and just about every currency type -- and there are literally dozens -- has an "exclusive" variant) and push you that much closer to the point where you *need* to buy a stash tab.
I'm not even sure if I want to get into the issue of the rune essences and the god awful rates to actually roll a 3-link on your spell runes, let alone a 4-link and above. It is yet another way that the devs push you to spend money...ESPECIALLY b/c you can actually buy the rune essences for real money (real money -> diamonds -> rubies -> essences).
This game is basically what you'd get if you wanted a half-assed version of Path of Exile with Diablo Immortal's level of toxic monetization. Skip this one if you don't want to spend money b/c being free-to-play is not something that is realistically possible.
This. Hope anyone who's interested to jump in will read this comment and steer clear. Ridiculous design but it was known how bad the game is for a long time, Koreans were complaining about the cash shop from the very beginning, and if Koreans find it too P2W then you know it's serious 🤡
100%
Bssed and truthpilled!
I don't think enough was said on this review. You can directly buy currency and buy gear with it. It is 100% pay 2 win, not just some elements.The boss difficulty is to get you to buy ressurection scrolls. The rune system upgrade which provides insane power, is meant for you to purchase upgrades. Games whole system is to get you to spend money. Which to be fair is most mobile games. Is game fun? Yes ,it can be. But there needs to be a psa that this game is a have more fun if you pay the game more, crafting slots, alchemy slots. Coming from a player who spent $ also.
That's because Vulcan has become very soft and PEGI 12 with his reviews. Sugarcoating a lot. Game is a trash mobile Asian ARPG game with full on Asian P2W monetization. Not even worth installing if you're a PC player, no healthy person wants buying power for money in their ARPG 😅
Whole game is designed so that you can solve problems they've created with money. Disgusting.
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I never rely on Vulkan for useful reviews. I mean I like his take on the games far as it goes but he NEVER gives the negatives. Basically you'd think every game he mentions is the next greatest game ever if you watch his videos.
The gear in the auction house if garbage, yall talk and no nothing
@@MoonHashira. HI. I reached end game maps and had yellow skills, and did all raids. I know some.
To be fair, if you are just slamming birth essence on gear then you did not read how the other essence work and how you can be very deterministic in your crafting. Also you do not need "crafting slots" to craft gear, as far as "crafting slots" are concerned it is for the alchemy bench for combining runes/essences, upgrading runes to higher tier one, and making potions.
I think I had saw some gameplay footage for this that looked good but all the steam reviews say this is an overly monetized cash grab at its worse. So after seeing that not even going to bother.
Wish Mu online play style with this graphics. Skill rune links and zodiacs are amazing.
You almost sold the game to me but having to use a rare currency to even know what the affixes on an item are an having partially revealed items sounds extremely frustrating.
This is a loot based game so presumably the further you get, the higher the drop rate of what is effectively garbage gear that you can at best sell for some currency or other, meaning you can easily end up wasting a large amount of your rare currency on trash.
And when you try to cut your losses and don't use more than a little currency on gear that already has 2/5 mediocre affixes or something you can easily miss out on gear, useful gear that makes up by having 3 strong affixes or such but you will never know cause you are forced to save as much of the affix revealing currency as possible since it's rare.
I've played games like this and it can easily kill most of the fun of finding new loot.
Thanks for the vid, understanding how to use currency and such is a skill. I like the game, 90+ hrs and not a cent to it so far.
I've heard this game comes with some malware once you've installed it. Well that's what all the reviews are saying on the steam page
Oh jeez really? I'll do some digging. Thank you for bringing this up!
@@Vulkan_Gaming yeah that and its got software that disables antivirus
its also hella pay to win from what i keep getting told by friends
the games systems and mechanics would do well in a paid normal full release game
its nProtect and game gaurd used by alot of asian games. They added a tool to uninstall it properly if you are done with game. There is a guide to manaually remove the files and reg codes as well.
Tbh might as well just go play lost ark over this
@@jpeg.jordaan but is lost ark more p2w and install rootkit too?
No its not Malware. Its an anti-cheat program called GameGuard. It has Kernel level access to your system, which basically just means it can directly access your hardware and system files without asking your operating system for permission first. Which is how a lot of malware works. And that probably causes a lot of false positives in anti-malware & anti-virus software causing the confusion.
I'm having a blast! It's a great game with poor monetization. If you can look beyond that, you'll have fun!
You're gonna hit a paywall unfortunately.
I am currently on last boss act10 out of 10 and didn't spend any money on it, the bosses are challenging but if you learn mechanics you beat them without scrolls. If you need to buy stash space before end game you doing something wrong for sure. Story is very good I wouldn't call it perfect but is good. People are calling this game shit cause they are stuck on act 5 boss or they did t even play it. Item shop is not that bad comparing it to lost ark. Wow you can play the game as a f2p stop saying you can't. I know people in high end game and they just spent money on stash tabs. Rootkit right what about the other games, they are doing it as well. Nprotect is known for years. They already did a removal app and people are still complaining
Ι agree with most of your points but the game is clearly P2W. With that said the game is fun and all but we need to say things as they are.
It is a good game *BUT* the cash shop is extremely OP. $10 for 28 days of pet ability use, that's even if you *buy a pet* from the shop. You must still pay for using its ability every 28 day's.Thats just one of many examples.
Auto attack and run to quest is no autoplay?
you kill things soo fast that you gotta really pay for a pet that auto loots, this game is very time consuming and is a chore to play without the convenience items which is VERY EXPENSIVE.....
A review sponsored by the game that you are reviewing? Literally the definition of a conflict of interest.
Unsubscribed.
You were not needed anyways
Game has nothing but bad reviews on the google store but god damn it looks soooo damn good
Because it's a turd wrapped in a shiny Christmas present paper. Typical asian mobile game. Full P2W crap.
@@DoctorStrange01 good looking
It's a good game. I downloaded and just play casually. Maybe 12+ hours so far and made it very far! Not a dime spent and enjoying it fully
@@hardxkor6561 And that's how it's intended to work :D First get a player hooked without the need to swipe, then slowly introduce design choices to make you more and more frustrated with limitations of a F2P player, and then offer you solutions for their purposely created design flaws for you to buy with $$ :D Good luck !
You say that like you're onto something but it's just not accurate. Unless you've made it further than I have what do you mean? How has this specific game frustrated you yet? Have you even tried? I played Diablo Immortal, ran a clan Den of Evil on Helliquary, paid $250+ and regret every second of game time there because it was pointless. This game doesn't net you special items that takes years to upgrade. I don't feel like I'm wasting time and it isn't the same D3 reskin. It's rather refreshing. Trust me I didn't want to try it because people screamed the same P2W shit about this game and I just assumed they were right. I'm personally glad I didn't allow it to prevent me from trying. I'll gladly update if I ever hit a paywall
This is a game with really predatory monetization. Please don't push games like this to your audience. I've already unsubbed from Fextralife for doing the same thing, and being a defensive ass about it when he got called out. He even deleted a bunch of comments bringing up his lack of coverage of the bad monetization. I know sponsorships are probably a decent chunk of your income, but please recommend better games that aren't so predatory
At the minimum, you should mention how much they push their microtransactions on the players, even if it is a fun game. We don't need more of these types of games.
Vulkan has become a PEGI 12 RUclipsr, it's like he's trying way too hard to not shit on something that's shit :) don't know why am i still subscribed if i see this over and over again with his videos. A lot of sugarcoating. It wasn't like this when he had less subscribers. That's a shame.
And yet, i finished the game without paying anything, bosses are hard but if you learn the pattern you will be fine...
@@momoqc9951 "finished the game" 😂 yeah, you can finish any ARPG with one eye closed and second with 50% vision and half a brain, because campaign in an ARPG is a tutorial. Real game/challenge begins after that, that's where monetization kicks in hard. You're clueless about how the whole genre works 🤡
@@DoctorStrange01 completely clueless, im so dumb you cant even imagine, i should just kill myself, what a shame
Warning: Game also downloads software that is highly difficult to remove. Not necessarily malware but not great either. Many steam reviews detail this.
rootkit is considered malware
@@DCUOCover most multiplayer games use rootkit in anticheat software, nothing new here
@@momoqc9951 No there is a difference with this one at least initially and according to the reports on steam and some other threads: 1. No warning it was going to be installed. 2. It's left on your system indefinitely when you uninstall the game which is unethical in my opinion. 3. GameGuard (at least in this case) did not come with an uninstaller. And people are having a hard time finding one. (Now this may be the people's fault I don't know.)
did people forget about their rootkit that literally scans whatever your pc processes and is also a keylogger, if you don't mind them knowing everything you do on your pc, than you know, go for gold, I do like the look of the game, but that rootkit is a massive red flag for me
Been enjoying lost ark might have to give this a try tho
Terrible biased review clearly influenced by "Sponsorship". Used to enjoy your videos but thinking time to unsubscribe. Not heard anyone say cash shop is just pay for convenience. It is a blatant pay for power with deliberate problems only solved by paying cash. It's a shame as at first glance it does look pretty and does have some interesting ideas.
There is a HUGE elephant in the room and it's the monetization. It has been shown over and over that money truly buys power in this game. Sadly, no matter how great the game is, it is tainted with "swipe your credit card" mantra all over the place.
Just like Diablo Immortal and so my other *mobile games* playable on PC. Heck many f2p pc games do a variation as well.
I don't mind p2w as I mostly play solo. The game's not as bad as people say, but the gameplay is rather dull. I couldn't continue playing after hour 7.
A free to play game with a bazilion purchasable currencies, some that rely on heavy RNG? No thanks.
Sounds too comlplicated for me.
if it wasn't for the insane p2w this game would have been great, why do they have to be this fkn greedy?
"why do they have to be this fkn greedy?" who, streamers and alike?
level 65, 100 hours into the game and i did not spent a dime :)
I could forgive them about p2w if the gameplay would be amazing but its decent at best, even Diablo immortal does it better with gameplay. DI > UD
I will play it but my device is not good for it
Poco x3 pro
It drain. Too much battery and laggy
no you shouldn't: it's overpriced.
Free is OPd?
Das ist nicht neues ist schon altmodish mit den vogelperspektive da ist black desert besser
I am not a fan of Diablo immortal for the same reason I hate any game of the same type, shameless monetization mechanic that put absurd number of pay walls to prevent you from ever achieving pvp competent build unless you open your wallet and drop tons of cash. Games like diablo immortal only cater to "whales" and treat free players as cannon fodder for their paying customers entertainment....i cannot condone any such games....and undecember chose to follow in diablo immortals footsteps so it goes on my "not worth the mental stress" list of games.
Codm still the best game on the phone with apex
Hmmmm.... I think I'm going to stick with Torchlight Infinite. The RNG component of unlocking rune links and identifying item affixes reminds me of the worst parts of PoE. The cash shop straight selling crafting materials is a huge turn off too. I would be interested to hear how much time buying crafting materials saves you. It just sounds like they went way too hard on the game's monetization.
Between the two games, I prefer TLI as well
Its a fun game but overall a trash game. Typical p2w game.
Trash game and its pay to win
Is anyone gonna mention how similar this is to lost ark
Nothing alike
@@olivur_1459 what do you mean? They got the same top down camera view
@@Misfit626 What do you mean? Top down camera views have existed in ARPG's since the 90's... lmfao
No
This is literally Path of Exile with a different title....
Average arpg
What do you consider above average?