AWD TEST : Volvo Xc90 Diagonal and Offroad test on ice and snow
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- AWD TEST: Volvo Xc90 Diagonal and Offroad test on ice and snow
We tested the new Volvo XC90 AWD! Quite impressive since once again it was icy and mixed with snow all over the place! Switch it to offroad mode and the truck will send 25% of power to each wheel. But sometimes it tends to allow some wheelspin before braking the wheels without traction.
The car is equipped with winter tires, there is a lot of ice under the snow and the hill is quite steep! The car could have gone up the hill first shot, but the goal is to show how the AWD reacts to a slippy situation!
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We tested the new Volvo XC90 AWD! Quite impressive since once again it was icy and mixed with snow all over the place! Switch it to offroad mode and the truck will send 25% of power to each wheel. But sometimes it tends to allow some wheelspin before braking the wheels without traction.
The car is equipped with winter tires, there is a lot of ice under the snow and the hill is quite steep! The car could have gone up the hill first shot, but the goal is to show how the AWD reacts to a slippy situation!
Next time could you do this again on wet grass with a caravan, I think that most people who buy these cars use them to tow trailers and caravans in the summer.
Hi, great video :) I own one of these and have no chance to try this kind of severe AWD. One thing I have noticed. The squeaking noise that comes from breaks or suspension at 3:38 and 4:18. Is that something expected? I had the same on my previous brand new 2017 XC60...
I love these tests. All the people complaining that he can't drive, that's not the point of this. Going slowly shows the AWD and how it sends power to each wheel.
There you go :P Yep that's the point of the test!
He can’t drive flooring it on snow creates too much spin and doesn’t show that at all if you use gentle response it has time to send power tor the wheel with most grip and not just spin all four wheels
@@lbnewell23 agree
Correct. It's the point of an automatic system. Just like abs. You don't emergency break like non-abs, in fact, that will probably get you in trouble.
This film is a fine example of how the Volvo works-around in a dynamic fashion to get-it-going! Nice Volvo! If the tires were to be a bit more narrow and less on the highway performance the Volvo would really eat-up this stuff!
Overall, very nice work in a beautiful and capable automobile!
Looks like this test was done with summer tires?
+Riisfalch Cars in my country volvo don't even offer winter tires on the 21inch rims... you have to buy the 20inch or lower to get winter tires on it.
Aha, I understand! Cool test though :) Made me want to do a similar test, but there is no snow atm here in south Norway..
would be awesome if you could do that ! watched all your vids about the XC90.
my father would be interested aswell since he bought one.
frederik meire Thanks for watching my videos! I'll see what I can do, but won't be in a place with snow before a few more weeks, before I travel up north again.
+Riisfalch Cars no! winter tire! the hill is quite a step and after a few passes ice builds up under the snow
Subtitles are needed in the video In the description you make it seem as if it is not in off road mode initially with each test. With the conditions, it should be in off-road mode 100% of the time.
we are doing that on the newer video. thanks for the comment :)
silliest test ever seen
Paul Middleton i think it was pretty good? It showed how late and pretty bad Volvos Haldex really is. Don’t get me wrong i love Volvos and so on. But ”AWD” on Volvo is shit
This car wasn't meant to go off-road. The Haldex can't deliver the same level of performance as a lockable centre differential with a low-range gear or even a Torsen system.
Interesting comment. I drive a 2016 VOLVO up a dirt road in the Colorado Mountains and it (the Volvo) has passed many a big 4x4 pickup truck that was stuck. Sometimes I could stop to help, other times it had to be to keep the momentum up a very long and steep hill encroachment. I know that my neighbors do not understand why (the Volvo) does so well, and I say that living in Alaska for 12-years helped, but compared to a truck, the only benefit the truck has is higher clearance, however, the VOLVO has some 8" to 9" under itself!
Thanks, VOLVO, still building great cars.
wheels are spinning faster, so try climb by shifting it in #2.
definitely not snow tires. These must be all season
+bigb9854 nope winter with a lot of ice under the snow
+CarQuestion One comment you say no winter tyres and other comment you say it has winter tyres?
there is a "!" missing after the no, sorry i miss that.
You can tell they're winter tyres by the pattern.
These are not proper winter tires, more likely M+S (all season tires). If you would put studded winter tires (Nokian Hakkapeliitta, Michelin X-Ice north etc) -> you would have smashed that small hill! I live in Finland and have 3-5 months of winter with 30-40 cm of snow, ice, slippery roads and so on: with good tire (studded or friction tires like we call in Finnish) you don't have problems.
Good to know, thanks for clarifying! Do the XC60 next....
I'd like to see that too
Traction control must be off, it will climb that easily.
Thanks, I'll try that!
When driving Haldex AWD like some Audi,Volkswagen,Volvo,Saab you should press on the gas a bit, not floor it, maintain decent pressure on gas for a few seconds so that the computer can transfer power to the right wheel, what you did at first was remove your foot at the first sign of slip,or floor it, the Haldex would not work that way.
Intrepid Milotic
Oh yeah. Just like they show in the commercials.
Intrepid Milotic FYI, this is not haldex this is GKN AWD system. GKN system has been used by Range Rover Evoque, The all new Audi allroad and Q5. The Volvo basically has the same AWD with these 3 cars the only difference is that the Evoque has Torque vectoring or Twinster Axle as what GKN said and the Audis has a newly designed propshaft or drive shaft with torque vectoring also, other than that it's the same. The driver should have turned the traction control and ESC off and it will go as well as the Evoque
Thank you for explaining, clearly haldex is the better system, i have tried Volvo Xc60 in an area like this, it did not struggle.
Intrepid Milotic I just asked Volvo and it is a Haldex 5, and I was wrong about the GKN, The GKN is used only by the T8 which has rear electric motor which is supplied by GKN but the regular model has Haldex 5. In this video, I think he did not turn off ESC so the power is limited
That's exactly the right comment, it is actually Haldex AWD.
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The AWD system (HALDEX) is veerrryyy good !
Quattro?
+rotaxrider What ??
+Peter Ximas Pretty sure Audi uses that same AWD system
+rotaxrider Nope, actually Audi uses "Torsen" for their quattro awd system. Not haldex.
+Halim Öztürk On the Quattro cars yes, but Audi also uses the Haldex system on some cars
Beautiful SUV
Would of been nice to see the drivers angle of the video shot.
This the way to review an all wheel drive vehicle, Great job.
+fciscokid Thanks! super apreciated! Will try to add the point of view in the next video filmed! But it seem's less impressive than from the exterior where you can see the wheels work and lift of the ground! :)
I love it when fans can't accept the truth and start blaming "it is the tires!" eventhough the description clearly says winter tires.
Let's face it, even with all season tires, an Audi would have breezed up the hills with no dramas.
Not gonna bother tbh
Audi q7 2015 3.0 tdi rules!!!!! Quattro drive kills competitors on the spot
@@rafaltomon5016 cant offroad for shit
Read the Car Question comments carefully: the car is equipped with the winter tires. But there is a lot of ice under the snow. Also they treat it "bed" on purpose to show how it reacts and yet they say it could have gone up hill first shot if they wanted.
To perform better you can switch it to off road mode!
That last tip helps. Mine is horrible just driving around my small town with 4" snow!
本日XC90見てきました!質感かなり良かったです😊
А в Т8 блокируется редуктор, и и электро мотор крутит 2 задних колеса сразу(в одном из двух вариантов offroad удерживает первую или вторую передачу)
they dont know how to drive xc90. there is W (winter) mode in all models. At least just put on 3rd gear and it will move over snow/ice. I never had such problem with mine. winter tires are must, especially for brake on snow/ice.
ctuyoutu
You can make any excuses you want. This video clearly shows poor performance of the vehicle.
None of these conditions were extreme or off-road; in fact, these scenarios are what the average driver may encounter during their commute home from work.
I repeat, I never had such an issue with my car. I drive on French Alps with ice/snow covered roads.
You can't drive any car in such condition without winter tires.
This video was made in Quebec, winter tires are mandatory. That's not french alps ice that's real ice and snow.
The test does not show poor vehicle performance. My Jeeps would do the same thing and are real 4x4s. The front driver side tire has NO WEIGHT on it. Winter tires, dry, wet, it won't matter...no weight no traction. Anyone who has raced vehicles knows how traction is lost by shifting the weight of the vehicle.
I have a 2005 Volvo XC 90 AWD the car is a monster in the snow. I have a 114,450 and the Volvo and it runs like new. I don't know if I would buy another after seeing this. My Jeep GC 4x4 goes any where I want to go.
Arthur Smith I drove a 3.2 xc90 on an unpaved interstate 2 years ago during a blizzard, it had all seasons and did great, never got stuck and drove in 7 inches of snow fine. The GC and the new xc90 are different animals, volvo is all luxury now with the ability to get you home. The Jeep is obviously better set up for offroading passed the limit of the average driver.
Summer tires?WTF its same to wear sanlals in snow
+Vasil Urtqmelidze nope winter with a lot of ice under the snow
Switch to 235/60/18. I have a xc 90 04 and a 15 xc60 t6 polstar. Switch to snows you can go anywhere.
I wish I had the time to test vehicles back to back with the same tires in the same conditions. I would have like to have seen a Suburau try that uphill climb you were doing at both slow speeds. I don't think you have a Suburau video do you? When I'm ready to buy I'm looking what's the best system that my money can allow me to buy for my needs. Not sure what is better yet.
+rotaxrider for now we did not have the chance to test test on that hill
one thing is sure, mazda release some video about a similar test ( yess we inspired them :P ). Subaru did not do too well....
once again it's hard to judge an awd system just by this test, the perfect example is the QX50. It disconected a lot during that test but so precise and fun to drive in a sportive manner in a snow storm.
feels like the AWD takes forever to kick in. The car get stuck before the AWD kicks in :P
Thats right, I have an XC90 and the AWD system is not great. I have Nokian winter tires and I'm not impressed, although there is a software update from November 2019 that recalibrates the AWD system. I will get the update at the next service.
@@JoshWeigner did the update fix it?
U should try turning off esc or traction control
holly smokes, they changed nothing in trac control since my '98 volvo s70.. Anyway, there should be winter mode to start from 3rd gear
There is a winter mode..
@@hiddenturbo2322 No, not in the latest XC 90 model.
No 4x4 can go on snow, without winter tires bro.....
it has winter tires
Excellent video. I am wondering what is the noise you can hear at 4:17? I have a 2016 XC90 and I get the same noise when going slowly downhill and turning.
Great video and nice car! Can i ask you, what do you think went up the hill better, the Volvo or the Honda Pilot?
Great Video ! Can you off road review the 2016 Audi Q7 ?
+Arya Pradhana Darmaputra On the list for this summer!
mi citroen c4 sale de mi garage con cuesta y con nieve sin poblemas, de que van estos tios probando una mini cuesta....
+elbesodelamariposa sorry, english?
Crossovers are not made for off road. Its not an SUV, 4 wheel low or locking center or differentials. Its a speed bump mobile. And a very luxurious one at that.
Wow he actually got
Up that snow hill? Im impressed as I thought no way but he did! Btw is the new model (this one) better than the previous one or other way around - I mean off road as I want the 2012 model… any thoughts? Thanks
So 21" and not on winter tires. I think it could handle this on 20" (or less) with winter tires easily.
How about Off Road mode? Was it in it?
+András Balázs it's snow tire, the test is for trying to see how the AWD react under hard condition! it could have gone up one shot no problem for that. but with the ice under the snow, goilg slowly can show us how it try to handle it.
make test BMW X5 or X6, please.
Wrong tyres for a start.
William Mcmonagle Well it states winter tyres
I am currently thinking about buying the XC90. However, I currently own two Toyota 4Runners and I think they have spoiled me when it comes to off-road and snow capabilities. We get a lot of snow here and I like to get my trucks dirty, plus I can't imagine an XC90 hauling my trailer through the woods withy ATV in it to camp. So i think I have to keep one of the 4Runners if i get XC90.
+Adam Reichl thanks for you comments! The 4 runner is a major performer in offroad territory! you cant really compare those 2 model in a specification point of view. If you need to go deep sometimes the 4runner is the choice! Crawl mode is also available for the runner! Underbody protection is a big plus, but on the road it's far from the Xc90 confort!
From what I've seen in this video it's not impressive especially in the diagonal test. I got a question for you. On some or most crossovers or SUVs the lock button or option that lets you use this function up to a set speed or mph what is it locking up? Is it just 50'50 split front to back left to right or all four wheels locked ?
+rotaxrider please note that the diagonnal test is an extreme test that 0,09% might face one day in a certain situation! for the button It's usualy 50/50 front to rear power but even some systeme dont LOCK the power transfert.
back in the old days you had a limited slip diff ( mechanical ) but today cars rely more on electronics to apply braking to the slipping wheel.
the volvo system is not bad! a little oversteer sometime in slippery condition, but in offroad mode it will get you out, but still is not the fastest.
+CarQuestion Your right it was pretty slow and spent a lot of time spinning its wheels that had no traction.
+rotaxrider yes but on the road it's more than enought to be a good awd system
+CarQuestion I guess you can say that about any AWD/4WD SYSTEM that is on a car or crossover or SUV. They should all do good on winter roads with good winter tires because most fwd cars with really good winter tires are good on winter roads but I would want a SUV or crossover to be better than a fwd when it goes off road. When I say OFF ROAD I mean a long up hill driveway in the winter or any situation more traction is needed more than fwd can offer. I know that there are some better than others and some at greater cost.
+rotaxrider the kia sorento has improved a lot, so has the cx-3 and cx-5.
with one Fiat panda 4×4 wos good
+marco de march we dont have this car in canada :(
Panda Cross 4x4 and.... Voilá... Done in a bit! (with winter tires, sure ) :D
Need snow tires
No diffLock?
... the coordination of the braking intervention should be 15% "harder". Too bad. A little snowdrift and I had to be towed. Very embarrassing.
So, what part about locking differentials is a lie?
+Piebe Post volvo doesn't have any locking differential on this vehicle
So how does it compare to Quattro awd or x drive or 4matic ? As good as quattro ? Better than 4 matic and x drive ?
It's not that guy doesn't know how to drive he was just trying to show us how the awd system works in slow those are not even snow tires and it's doing excellent he could go up the hill 1st time if he gunned the car right off the start from the road and it would get speed and go up but point was to show us how the awd system works otherwise we wouldn't see it .. with snow tires that car wouldn't have problem stopping on the middle of the hill and taking off
I see all of these awd tests.how about an awd test when these cars have 50 thousand miles on them
we test more new car than old one but i will take note for your request.
TheVintagetamiya the amount of miles it has done will have little if not no impact on the results when compared to the same car with fewer miles
Which version is this? I'd like to see the T8 (plug in hybrid) please!
summer tires ? Don't they have all-year-tyres
looks like a Québec plate and driving with no winter tires? lol
Yep Québec plate, and check the full review to find out more about the tire :)
Which trim/engine was this using? I'm very interested in buying the PHEV T8 engine version, but is the AWD the same across models? Thank you!
That is not snow, but icy slush. A single data point test - one car on one day in one set of conditions does not prove anything. Put a Jeep GC, maybe a Ford F-150 and a FWD anything on either side of the XC90 on the same day with the same tires, and let's see if it is the conditions or the car.
I think he's purposely letting off the gas at awkward times sometimes to test I guess?
Если за рулём бараш - ничего не поможет...
Sure takes the awd a while to figure things out
I agree. Took some time to think. Yeah the tires were not snow tires but that four wheel system seems a little lacking. Good for the soccer mom. These are a great looking and luxo ride but I wouldn't take off road. But slow system
the tires were a disadvantage but I think the tester was biggest problem here. once he seen that the hill was too steep for that weight of vehicle, he should have built momentum from the bottom instead of driving 1/2 way up and either stopping then thinking he was going to get going again or flooring it after he lost momentum
+jeff m the point of this test is to see how the véhicle react in hard condition and not flooring it to get it done
Volvo has summer tyres i or esp offo think
nope winter tire, check our review.
check out this vidéo for the tire:
ruclips.net/video/bg7eJDBZgAA/видео.html
Is this the t8?
Sounds like a diesel
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My dream car..150.000 Euro at Turkey
Learn how to drive Haldex in the snow up hills: manually select 3rd gear, then steady as you go! In full auto as you have it, you're applying too much torque causing too much wheel spin at all corners.
+Pete Jr you cant get into 3 in this car... the goal of this test is to see how it react while slipping.
move gear lever over to Sport Mode/manual mode, then push forward to 3rd gear. It works well in my V60 and XC60 when the traction control is overwhelmed. Same goes for my previous Audi's with quattro. You are basically putting it in "creeper mode" to keep the revs/torque down. Volvo's used to have a dedicated Winter Mode button on the gear shift which performed this (move into 3rd gear). Try it next time you lose full traction going up slippery hills in a Haldex equipped vehicles.
I thought of buying it
Is this how you drive a car without winter tires?
+Yang Liunan
The car is equipped with winter tire, there is a lot of ice under the snow and the hill is quite step! The car could have gone up the hill first shot, but the goal is to show how the awd react to slippy situation!
Full review: ruclips.net/video/bg7eJDBZgAA/видео.html
I'd like to konw what type of snow tires were used.
It seemed to have done OK...
Yeah I don’t think the put it on the right mode.
Of course it's not a RUBBER TYRES
really ??? I would have made the hill on any front wheel drive car -my xc60 awd t6 made me feel that after watching you - no one should or would buy a Volvo- get a pair there dude
This car has a single issue, the driver
In which drive mode did you tested this car?
+Ruben Kelevra the first pass in auto mode, the last try in offroad mode.
+CarQuestion I don't know exactly how the not T8 models work, but offroad mode is not the best working for snow, since the car expect to drive on stones and mud. The T8 have an 4WD mode which works much better on snow
+Ruben Kelevra we will try it soon so get prepare for another video :)
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Tires are not winter grade or driver dont know to drive xc90
I dont think this vehicle is fitted with winter tires. I'm sure winter tires would make a huge difference.
you just can't see the ice under the snow and how steep this hill was.
with studs it could have been better but not without acceleration to go up :)
check out this vidéo for the tire:
ruclips.net/video/bg7eJDBZgAA/видео.html
車両の雪道走行性能以前に、オールシーズンタイヤはいている時点で、かなりのハンディですね。日本の雪道で主流のスタッドレスタイヤより、かなり劣りますから。まぁ、海外のタイヤ事情(気温・積雪量・雪質・除雪体制など日本とは違うので)は、それがスタンダードなんでしょうけど。
You can’t drive a big car up a hill without snow tyres.....no matter what AWD system.
That great, so we can because this car had snow tyres :P
Pretty nice car "but" looks weak for the competition Audi-BMW- Benz
+Jany Rodriguez it's not that weak :)
A lot of reviewers would disagree. In fact some put the XC90 above the German competition.
Id put it in order like this Discovery, XC90, X5, Q7
unbelievable 😂 😂 😂 😂.
So is the Honda Pilot better in these conditions?
Probably pretty comparable. The newer Haldex systems are excellent, as is the Honda system.
+Cory Stansbury In previous iterations of VTM-4 there was a possibility to lock the rear wheels (i didn't say diff on purpose, because there's none) so theoretically in some conditions might have proved superior, but that's on paper. I'd like a real life feedback :)
+TataruRoman quite similar! but with more grunt!
ruclips.net/video/s9OShPu6S50/видео.html
Where is this place?
+Phantomaa québec canada.
Ok.Nice chanel and vidos!
+Phantomaa thanks for the comments! i really apreciate it!
have this car autolock differential?
no :(
this is a sad story :(
CarQuestion,so you cant lock the differential?
@@edydj9671 Its a SUV, not a Offroader.
4.0
I just made my mind not to take this car for a test drive with the thought of buying one. Living in snowy Finland
It was running on summer tires in this test
varza
i dont feel this video shows the xc90s true potential as a decent off road vehicle.it makes it look like its not very competent.although i suspect snow tyres would have been more apt.i do like the xc90 though and have seen better videos on youtube showing more of what this offroad vehicle can do.
in the DESC: The car is equipped with winter tire, there is a lot of ice under the snow and the hill is quite step! The car could have gone up the hill first shot, but the goal is to show how the awd react to slippy situation!
Car Question i cant say the awd reacted too well really for such an expensive vehicle.o think most suvs with snow tyres fitted would have got up the gradient.and im sure driven right the volvo wdve got up without all that sliding.as ive seen on tv topgear and other youtube clips.
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what do you have for weels?
A have Volvo V50 and a drive with Good year!
My 02 s60 t5 can do this and its front wheel drive!
no it can't :)
For sure it can - my '94 Volvo is also able to, when the front wheels are on the road - Differential lock
Sure it can..... But going down not up
Wow that's awesome,
keep dreaming
Я там на «девятке» спокойно проезжаю
Volvo, Acura, Subaru.
youve got shit tire, buy some tire as dunlop wintersport 5d they are the best in the whole universe, mever. got such problems with them in my passat b6 in the mountines
Bad test ..tyres..
THE CAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OFF ROADING! ITS A SUV FULL OF ELECTRONICS.
maybe but sometimes it's cool to see the capability!
agreed.
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OMG
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Fiat uno subia de 5
My Opel Corsa can do that.
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Sad stuff...