Don't apologize for your delivery. I guess some guys think it's dry, but sage wisdom is rarely flamboyant. Love this content and it is absolutely presented well. Most of RUclips is shouting and flashing lights, but this makes me feel like when I was an apprentice machinist. A great depth of knowledge is being handed down in a caring way that helps me grow without the decades of frustration and pain that come with learning the hard way.
This guy is way more interesting that youtubers out their talking about the color and finish of their coilovers. I agree with you Alex, its hard to find solid documentation or videos on this stuff.
19:30 rebound 19:48 low speed damping 20:28 mid speed damping 21:40 high speed damping 26:39 single adjustable shocks settings 26:56 more front rebound 27:56 to much front rebound 29:37 to little front rebound 31:31 more rear rebound 34:37 to much rear rebound 36:30 to little rear rebound
Thank you. So basically the video starts at 19:30... Because leading up to this I'm about 13 minutes in and he's repeated to not lower your car too much and to get an alignment after swapping major suspension components... Lol
Mike your delivery is direct, easy to understand, and has ALWAYS been to the point! No high pitched RUclips intros, no rapid fire cuts and music, just simple easy education 💯
I have ADHD and was able to watch the entire video and learned so much. I think that whatever you teach I would learn. Thank you for your time. I have been playing around with my BC coilovers with a 370z nismo. I had a lot of rear sag and was rubbing really bad. The back sags and about 1.75 inches with regular acceleration and felt unstable at high speeds. Added 4mm of preload and the car feels better, not 100 but I'll keep playing around with it. The last part gave me confidence to keep adjusting and tweaking things until it's what I want. Thanks again
i got ADD and was laser focused, as im running way too low and need to reset my whole setup, i got BC golds and recently put a new sway bar in my 1997 sf forester, super thick one that means my car corners great but i rub as i lowered it but didnt set the bump stops properly so i rub on the fenders
Such valuable information, thank you. The biggest issue I have found when tuning anything is cognitive bias. It's good to have someone else do the adjustments so you don't really know what they did and just drive it to feel the difference. If you are expecting something then you can trick yourself into believing there is a difference. I chased my tail with that issue a lot until I learnt how to "not expect".
my feeling is that when you are learning, you do the adjustments yourself and get a feel for things. The best suspension engineers are the guys who learned setting up their own cars. These guys are better than formula SAE data nerd types. If you understand the feel and know how to reduce data, thats the best of both worlds.
This guy blew my mind I just got done with my first attempt at swapping to 373 gears whereby gaining an education on pinion depth and angle and drive shaft angle and I thought I was in deep there looks like I got some stuff to learn this looks like the place to do it thank you
This was excellent. I always found that starting out at full soft (and most often staying closer to it) on the shocks was the way to go both in terms of ride quality and actual performance. Almost everybody around would think they need to have the car excessively low and insanely high springrates with the shocks set all the way to "hardest" to get the best performance, and all it would lead to is they had trouble with even regular everyday driving at regular speeds cuz they can't even get over speedbumps without going over em with their cars near parallel to them. They also had trouble hopping on to ramps to the freeway without screwing up the flow of traffic and at the end of the day, when they wanted to go racing, their rides would drive absolutely horribly and it was so obvious that they were doing it wrong that I had no idea how everybody didn't just wake up and notice these common sense issues.
I love this suspension set up talk and I wouldn't mind at all if this became a series that got in depth and technical. With Mike's knowledge and presentation it would be excellent.
Don't ever apologize Mike ... We need more from you same delivery.... If you can use a RC car with adjustable suspension we can see the effects more and you can quickly display what happens.
This guy is one of my favorite "presenters". To the point, great attitude, and an incredible amount of knowledge, what more could you want on these topics?!
Love these videos and your delivery is on point. I prefer these WAY over content that is obnoxiously loud or overdone; they usually feel disingenuous and often leave out important info. Content like this is content I’m happy to subscribe to. The only thing I wish was different was that I was closer to your shop 😂
I wasn’t even searching for this but I love learning and relearning about car tech. There’s always something to learn so I really appreciate this long form video. Especially from someone so knowledgeable. Thank you!
Honestly one of the best tutorials , have a 94 Cobra , trying to balance what I call being one with the car , like a muscle memory no think simply do,,,,,,,,,, I’m learning so much from you I truly appreciate your delivery and your expertise. I’m 64 so thanks to you the one with this car will become my reality. Truly thank you 😎
Can you do a video on how to set up coilovers to optimize the dampers' effective zone, without the need for helper springs, and adjusting the bumpstop to suit the tire and wheel clearance at the desired ride height?
Please don't apologize, this is a perfect delivery of wise and detailed suspension knowledge! Couldn't ask for anything better. This is an excellent baseline to start getting deeper into each intricate aspects of tuning suspension settings!
Hearing this explanation, describing all the symptoms of the adjustments, suddenly a lot of things started to make sense! I was fooled too, reading in the forums that more is better, ended up with a shitty ride. To anyone that got their fist coilovers set like me, you should definitely watch this. Amazing piece of information, thank you!
Through sim racing and eventually road course racing I got more and more into damper tuning. What I recommend to everyone who can is 1: drive an 80s Cadillac (or some kind of old boat) in a parking lot and do some low speed quick maneuvers and 2: go karting. And this is super basic, but pay attention to how the front and rear behave of each way. With slow compression and rebound, if it feels like a kart skipping away or sliding, you're too firm and the tires are working too hard. If you're experiencing lazy response in quick maneuvers, you're too soft and the tires are doing too little. Point is, it's good to experience more variety of vehicles to better help your understanding of how your own car is behaving. Again... This is a super basic way to better your knowledge of your own vehicle's behavior. Thank you for your awesome videos! Your expertise is amazing and I always learn something new.
New to the channel but this is fantastic! So much good info from someone who actually knows what he's talking about. You can tell he genuinely loves cars too. Definitely a new favorite.
Mike, I so much appreciate this, as well as your other interesting and informative videos and articles. Being a retired physicist and a gearhead, I really love the detailed explanations on the topics you so articulately explain. Keep up the good work!
sitting here all happy i knew about the ziptie trick thanks for the awesome series Mike. what a treat for newer folks to get a fast track into high performance tuning.
This is definitely the best shock tuning video that I've personally seen on youtube, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I'm excited for more content like this 👍
Hey Mike your examples and insights into the symptoms of a poor setup are so helpful - more than anything I've seen on the subject. Most videos that try to cover the topic focus too much on the theoretical - not what it translates to. Thanks for helping me identify and better understand the logic in suspension tuning!
More, please - this was great... In fact its probably the only video that accurately addresses the "how to" as well as the "why." As I watch this, I've jumping into suspension rebuilds of an old Porsche, Z32, and VW... Definitely took notes. Thanks. Well Done.
Most of my suspension knowledge is from MK even backfrom the SCC days. I even had an old racecar Sentra in the shop that apparently he had a hand in building(or at least consulting its suspension at least). So freaking cool
This was a good refresher, not too long ago I got tasked with setting up preload and tuning the suspension on a restored type 2 e type roadster. They were complaining about a loose and bouncy feel”. The coilovers were just put on and not adjusted at all.
I just installed my first set of coilovers on my car for a daily/autocross build and this video was insanely informative. I did not slam my ride, did not touch preload, and have just been tweaking the stiffness settings. I’m at 11/16 clicks front and 8/16 clicks rear and realize based on your symptoms I am 100% overdamped. The bounciness has been driving me crazy. Going to turn them down a good 4-5 clicks and see what a difference it makes. Thank you for making this video!
Great video. I really appreciate the guidence you provided. You've made the enigma of what happens when you adjust dampening a LOT more clear. Thank you.
For credits : I run V3 KW on my Model 3 and everything he said made sense .. cool hearing some else explain it … I used to run my rebound very high and easing off of it made it bobble less .. 10/10 .. need cover the compression aspect too , he’d have greater input
Years ago I met Lee Grimes who at the time worked for Koni. I asked him how to adjust my single adjustable dampers and he told me to go to a parking lot, drive over some speed bumps at a slow-ish speed and adjust the dampers until the car bounced once, then settled...then don't touch them. I followed his advice and the car rode and handled very well, was very balanced and not jarring on the street at all. I even had other people drive the car on track and was told "don't touch it". That made me feel good.
This is so helpful, I was able to identify certain behaviors my car exhibits that I can try to solve with these tips. I think I do need a bit less rear sway bar but it sounds like some rear rebound may help stabilize the behavior as is. Right now the car basically must be driven with maintenance throttle or it wants to spin on corner entry.
Amazing video and information, pure gold to get this information from a real expert. Looking forward to the rest of the series and hopefully one on spring rates
Fantastic amount of information Mike.Yeah! It's complex. But, what the hell, if you're a guy (or gal) who wants to learn, you better damn well be willing to put in the effort. Thanks for the great insights and understanding Mike!
Excellent video! As for the ride height that is an absolute fact that people make their cars too low for performance purposes. I did a suspension tuning course and they gave a good lesson on coil over setup. When you first get your coil overs you should first remove all restrictions (spring and bump stops) so it’s just the shock. Then put it in the car and put your wheel back on. Jack up your suspension so you’re getting full compression and rotate the wheel to see if you’re rubbing or hitting anything. If you’re rubbing then increase the height until it doesn’t hit anymore under full compression. This will give you a worse case scenario and make sure your ride height is at a good starting point.
Amazing video! In the same vein, could you guys make a video on accurately choosing spring rates for your car? Lots of confusing info out there on that subject, stuff like relationship between wheel rates front and back etc
Seriously great video as per the usual from you and motoiq. I really dig the delivery, you’re honest and willing to help. Hella more then I can say for the normal RUclips channel, most of the time they just wanna hear themselves talk and never get to solving anything.
Don't apologize for your delivery. I guess some guys think it's dry, but sage wisdom is rarely flamboyant. Love this content and it is absolutely presented well. Most of RUclips is shouting and flashing lights, but this makes me feel like when I was an apprentice machinist. A great depth of knowledge is being handed down in a caring way that helps me grow without the decades of frustration and pain that come with learning the hard way.
This guy is way more interesting that youtubers out their talking about the color and finish of their coilovers. I agree with you Alex, its hard to find solid documentation or videos on this stuff.
i second this
+1
Delivery was on point. It’s like Jeff is talking to a younger buddy. It feels just right. Also the tempo helps to comprehend !
I third this
👏👏👏
19:30 rebound
19:48 low speed damping
20:28 mid speed damping
21:40 high speed damping
26:39 single adjustable shocks settings
26:56 more front rebound
27:56 to much front rebound
29:37 to little front rebound
31:31 more rear rebound
34:37 to much rear rebound
36:30 to little rear rebound
Thank you. So basically the video starts at 19:30...
Because leading up to this I'm about 13 minutes in and he's repeated to not lower your car too much and to get an alignment after swapping major suspension components... Lol
@@TravisFabel something tells me u dont get an alignment after lowering your car
@@TravisFabel it’s all great information that a lot of people who shouldn’t be in the car scene should learn
doing gods work 🙏🏼
Thank you 😊😎👍
Mike your delivery is direct, easy to understand, and has ALWAYS been to the point!
No high pitched RUclips intros, no rapid fire cuts and music, just simple easy education 💯
I hate those intros that are like 10 seconds long, I don’t care about that sh%t! Make it short and get to the vid!
and best of all, none of that insect music the youtube kids put on car videos.
Awesome video Mike!!
Thank you!
The amount of knowledge you give away for free is philanthropic.
I feel like Mike just gave us the inner secrets of suspension. Everything he tells us feels like gold.
All car enthusiasts and tuners should watch this video and know their suspension better. Thanks for this video
The timing of this couldn't be better. This was perfect. Thank you, Jeff.
Jeff!?
Lmao word like wtf
I have ADHD and was able to watch the entire video and learned so much. I think that whatever you teach I would learn. Thank you for your time.
I have been playing around with my BC coilovers with a 370z nismo. I had a lot of rear sag and was rubbing really bad. The back sags and about 1.75 inches with regular acceleration and felt unstable at high speeds. Added 4mm of preload and the car feels better, not 100 but I'll keep playing around with it.
The last part gave me confidence to keep adjusting and tweaking things until it's what I want.
Thanks again
i got ADD and was laser focused, as im running way too low and need to reset my whole setup, i got BC golds and recently put a new sway bar in my 1997 sf forester, super thick one that means my car corners great but i rub as i lowered it but didnt set the bump stops properly so i rub on the fenders
This should be a mandatory watch prior to joining a FB group
How is he sharing this much knowledge for free. Wow!!!!!!
Uncle Mike is a legendary teacher. 🤙🖤
This video is absolutely INCREDIBLE
Such valuable information, thank you. The biggest issue I have found when tuning anything is cognitive bias. It's good to have someone else do the adjustments so you don't really know what they did and just drive it to feel the difference. If you are expecting something then you can trick yourself into believing there is a difference. I chased my tail with that issue a lot until I learnt how to "not expect".
my feeling is that when you are learning, you do the adjustments yourself and get a feel for things. The best suspension engineers are the guys who learned setting up their own cars. These guys are better than formula SAE data nerd types. If you understand the feel and know how to reduce data, thats the best of both worlds.
@@motoiq one of many reasons engineers should be required to be a mechanic first. hands on is always the best way to learn
@@bradhaines3142 and also be able to ride with pilote (if it possible in two seater)
This guy could give me advice on ANYTHING and I’d listen for 42 minutes
MORE. OF. THIS. Thank you for taking the time out to bless us with this info.
Fantastic video Mike. Should be mandatory viewing for coilover buyers! I will certainly be recommending it to many people.
Wasn't choppy at all, you speak timely and clear. Thanks for the info
This guy blew my mind I just got done with my first attempt at swapping to 373 gears whereby gaining an education on pinion depth and angle and drive shaft angle and I thought I was in deep there looks like I got some stuff to learn this looks like the place to do it thank you
best video on the subject ive found so far. I could sit and listen to you all day...
Don't stop making these Mike. theyre awesome.
Clearing up some of that butt puckering is definitely key. Thanks for another banger upload!
You are an automotive gem brother!
I have watched this so many times and my car is feeling way better 2 weekends in a row now still dialing it in
This was excellent. I always found that starting out at full soft (and most often staying closer to it) on the shocks was the way to go both in terms of ride quality and actual performance. Almost everybody around would think they need to have the car excessively low and insanely high springrates with the shocks set all the way to "hardest" to get the best performance, and all it would lead to is they had trouble with even regular everyday driving at regular speeds cuz they can't even get over speedbumps without going over em with their cars near parallel to them. They also had trouble hopping on to ramps to the freeway without screwing up the flow of traffic and at the end of the day, when they wanted to go racing, their rides would drive absolutely horribly and it was so obvious that they were doing it wrong that I had no idea how everybody didn't just wake up and notice these common sense issues.
I love this suspension set up talk and I wouldn't mind at all if this became a series that got in depth and technical. With Mike's knowledge and presentation it would be excellent.
Im glad you made this series as I'm used to people just bottoming out their coilovers and calling it a day
The most comprehensive suspension lesson on YT
Thank you for these vids 🙏🏼 I think I’m like 3-4 times in listening driving to and home from work on this vid alone 😜. Good stuff 🤙
This was SO informative. Suspension geometry and how all the components of the suspension work together is fascinating. Thank you for posting this!
As someone who is about to get coilovers for the first time, this video is a godsend!
Don't ever apologize Mike ... We need more from you same delivery.... If you can use a RC car with adjustable suspension we can see the effects more and you can quickly display what happens.
for me as a theoretical one, you summarized vehicle dynamics in a very applied way. thanks a lot
This guy is one of my favorite "presenters".
To the point, great attitude, and an incredible amount of knowledge, what more could you want on these topics?!
Love these videos and your delivery is on point. I prefer these WAY over content that is obnoxiously loud or overdone; they usually feel disingenuous and often leave out important info.
Content like this is content I’m happy to subscribe to. The only thing I wish was different was that I was closer to your shop 😂
I wasn’t even searching for this but I love learning and relearning about car tech. There’s always something to learn so I really appreciate this long form video. Especially from someone so knowledgeable. Thank you!
This video is an invaluable knowledge resource for all tomorrow’s hoons, boy racers, and tinkerers. Thanks!
I could listen to you for hours man the knowledge you spill is priceless❤
Honestly one of the best tutorials , have a 94 Cobra , trying to balance what I call being one with the car , like a muscle memory no think simply do,,,,,,,,,, I’m learning so much from you I truly appreciate your delivery and your expertise. I’m 64 so thanks to you the one with this car will become my reality. Truly thank you 😎
You are amazing Mike. Thanks for such valuable information
Looking into the background, all I see are classic cars. What a sight!
I could listen to this guy all day
👑 YOU’RE A LEGEND MR.KOJIMA! Thanks for taking the time going in depth in coil-overs! 👑
Can you do a video on how to set up coilovers to optimize the dampers' effective zone, without the need for helper springs, and adjusting the bumpstop to suit the tire and wheel clearance at the desired ride height?
No because its oversimplified and not the right way to do things
I learned more in this 40 minute video than several hours of other videos combined. Thank you for this!
Glad it was helpful!
Please don't apologize, this is a perfect delivery of wise and detailed suspension knowledge! Couldn't ask for anything better. This is an excellent baseline to start getting deeper into each intricate aspects of tuning suspension settings!
My favorite thing to listen to is you talking about shock and suspension geometry.
Hearing this explanation, describing all the symptoms of the adjustments, suddenly a lot of things started to make sense! I was fooled too, reading in the forums that more is better, ended up with a shitty ride. To anyone that got their fist coilovers set like me, you should definitely watch this. Amazing piece of information, thank you!
Through sim racing and eventually road course racing I got more and more into damper tuning. What I recommend to everyone who can is 1: drive an 80s Cadillac (or some kind of old boat) in a parking lot and do some low speed quick maneuvers and 2: go karting. And this is super basic, but pay attention to how the front and rear behave of each way. With slow compression and rebound, if it feels like a kart skipping away or sliding, you're too firm and the tires are working too hard. If you're experiencing lazy response in quick maneuvers, you're too soft and the tires are doing too little. Point is, it's good to experience more variety of vehicles to better help your understanding of how your own car is behaving. Again... This is a super basic way to better your knowledge of your own vehicle's behavior. Thank you for your awesome videos! Your expertise is amazing and I always learn something new.
Finally. Indepth instructions. Mutch appreciated.
This is one of best video I've seen on explaining how to dial in rebound adjustments!
New to the channel but this is fantastic! So much good info from someone who actually knows what he's talking about. You can tell he genuinely loves cars too. Definitely a new favorite.
Welcome aboard!
Best explanation of what the different stuff do.. exactly what I was looking for.
Your day has been blessed by the master
I love this guy. Strait to the point. So modest. I dig into engine building. But any advice from this goat is well received!.
The comment you made after 00:58 made me stop the video to give a thumbs up! I can't wait to watch the rest of this video.
thank you so much for taking the time to explain all these.!!! Please do more suspension vid if possible!
What a legend! I learned a lot even in just the 1st 5 mins .. will keep an eye on future vids! ✌🏾
Bloody fantastic ,about time somebody has put it in layman's terms that we can all understand thank you very much.
Mike, I so much appreciate this, as well as your other interesting and informative videos and articles. Being a retired physicist and a gearhead, I really love the detailed explanations on the topics you so articulately explain. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this comprehensive video Mike. 😊
What a wealth of knowledge.
Thank you, Professor Mike!!!
sitting here all happy i knew about the ziptie trick
thanks for the awesome series Mike. what a treat for newer folks to get a fast track into high performance tuning.
Awesome that you guys share this stuff. I wish this kind of knowledge was around when I was in my 20s :)
Thank you very much for sharing your experience and knowledge.
Highly appreciated!
This is definitely the best shock tuning video that I've personally seen on youtube, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I'm excited for more content like this 👍
What a privilege! Thanks for sharing this vast amound of knowledge in such an accessible way!
Hey Mike your examples and insights into the symptoms of a poor setup are so helpful - more than anything I've seen on the subject. Most videos that try to cover the topic focus too much on the theoretical - not what it translates to. Thanks for helping me identify and better understand the logic in suspension tuning!
Thank you Mike! You're detailed explanation helped me setup my ST XA's for my M240i. You are so humble and make learning easy!
Just spent the weekend fitting coil overs to my Ute, so this is very helpful as I’m yet to fine tune them. Thanks Mate!
More, please - this was great... In fact its probably the only video that accurately addresses the "how to" as well as the "why."
As I watch this, I've jumping into suspension rebuilds of an old Porsche, Z32, and VW... Definitely took notes.
Thanks.
Well Done.
As someone who will be dialing in a brand new set of Fortune 510's this season, the timing for this video could not be more convenient!
Well explained! Really appreciate a solid delivery and explanation. Thank you.
“Maximum practical lowness” I dig it 😜
Most of my suspension knowledge is from MK even backfrom the SCC days. I even had an old racecar Sentra in the shop that apparently he had a hand in building(or at least consulting its suspension at least). So freaking cool
I was looking for a video like the six months ago. Thank you so much. This is gonna make my car so much better for the season.
Great info. Thanks!
This was a good refresher, not too long ago I got tasked with setting up preload and tuning the suspension on a restored type 2 e type roadster.
They were complaining about a loose and bouncy feel”.
The coilovers were just put on and not adjusted at all.
I just installed my first set of coilovers on my car for a daily/autocross build and this video was insanely informative. I did not slam my ride, did not touch preload, and have just been tweaking the stiffness settings. I’m at 11/16 clicks front and 8/16 clicks rear and realize based on your symptoms I am 100% overdamped. The bounciness has been driving me crazy. Going to turn them down a good 4-5 clicks and see what a difference it makes. Thank you for making this video!
experiment and see!
Keep us updated
I have been waiting for a video like this since I bought my feal 441 suspension 3 years ago thanks for the info you are a god
Great video. I really appreciate the guidence you provided. You've made the enigma of what happens when you adjust dampening a LOT more clear. Thank you.
For credits : I run V3 KW on my Model 3 and everything he said made sense .. cool hearing some else explain it … I used to run my rebound very high and easing off of it made it bobble less .. 10/10 .. need cover the compression aspect too , he’d have greater input
Absolutely excellent content, as always. Thanks for your time.
Banger video Mike!
As always, well thought out and presented reference material!
Best explanation out there, you should be proud of your work.
MotoIQ always doing good in the hood!!
Years ago I met Lee Grimes who at the time worked for Koni. I asked him how to adjust my single adjustable dampers and he told me to go to a parking lot, drive over some speed bumps at a slow-ish speed and adjust the dampers until the car bounced once, then settled...then don't touch them. I followed his advice and the car rode and handled very well, was very balanced and not jarring on the street at all. I even had other people drive the car on track and was told "don't touch it". That made me feel good.
Lee knows his stuff.
This is so helpful, I was able to identify certain behaviors my car exhibits that I can try to solve with these tips. I think I do need a bit less rear sway bar but it sounds like some rear rebound may help stabilize the behavior as is. Right now the car basically must be driven with maintenance throttle or it wants to spin on corner entry.
I found you through HPA's podcast and I was thinking their interview was way too short. This is exactly what I was wanting.
Amazing video and information, pure gold to get this information from a real expert. Looking forward to the rest of the series and hopefully one on spring rates
Just pure knowledge, thank you for this video
Fantastic amount of information Mike.Yeah! It's complex. But, what the hell, if you're a guy (or gal) who wants to learn, you better damn well be willing to put in the effort. Thanks for the great insights and understanding Mike!
Excellent video! As for the ride height that is an absolute fact that people make their cars too low for performance purposes. I did a suspension tuning course and they gave a good lesson on coil over setup. When you first get your coil overs you should first remove all restrictions (spring and bump stops) so it’s just the shock. Then put it in the car and put your wheel back on. Jack up your suspension so you’re getting full compression and rotate the wheel to see if you’re rubbing or hitting anything. If you’re rubbing then increase the height until it doesn’t hit anymore under full compression. This will give you a worse case scenario and make sure your ride height is at a good starting point.
Amazing video! In the same vein, could you guys make a video on accurately choosing spring rates for your car? Lots of confusing info out there on that subject, stuff like relationship between wheel rates front and back etc
This video is amazing.
What a damn good video. You are the suspension professor.
Thanks for this video Mike!! Keep it up!! Love how informative this is, almost feels like a cheat code
Man I wish RUclips existed and I had this video the first time I fitted aftermarket suspension to one of my cars
Anything and everything Mike says, I will trust 1000%
This is an awesome video, great delivery on pure detail. Thank you so much for making it!
Seriously great video as per the usual from you and motoiq. I really dig the delivery, you’re honest and willing to help. Hella more then I can say for the normal RUclips channel, most of the time they just wanna hear themselves talk and never get to solving anything.