Not an SLR lens but since you brought up Minolta I’d recommend the Minolta M-Rokkor 40mm f2 it’s a really great rangefinder lens. That optically is on par with Leica 50mm Summicron.
Honestly the experience is amazing, it’s taught me a lot from how to nail my manual focus to what each focal length feels like, they’re an amazing learning tool, and I’m in love with the feel and the images I can produce
I like that you have to everything manually, well, I do with the lenses I have 👍 I like that most vintage Lenses can be bought relatively cheap, they have fantastic build quality & produce photos that look unique as not all vintage lenses will give the exact same quality of photo 😁
Using vintage lenses was my start into a totaly new world of Photography. Using old Canon fd lenses, setting aperture and focus manually was so much more plastics. The next step was to get more lenses, and on one purchse was a manual camera attached. The first shit film was so exciting and It ended with now round about 10 Bodies out of different centuries and a whole bunch of special and unique lenses. It feels like a time travel using all these cameras and enjoy the sensation of using external light meters and adjust everything very carefully. This made me think more about my photography in advance, which also improves my workflow with modern cameras. All in all I am a gearhead and have much fun, buying, using, repairing and bringing old camera gear back to live.
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Well done Q&A episode Mark! Regarding vintage lenses and because I am an environmentalist, I like the fact that they help us realize that objects made up to the 70s or 80s were built to last much longer than they do now. Vintage lenses incorporate mostly metal and little plastic and are robust in design. This is why we can still use them today. Camera (and accessories) manufacturers need to rediscover this important aspect on a planet with limited resources.
I got into shooting vintage lenses because i purchased mine in the 70 and 80s. Just purchased my first digital camera and now useing my old lense are fun.
Super cool that your family has that history shooting with film cameras! Completely agree that when it comes to vintage lenses, it's best to work around their weaknesses, and turn them into strengths. Otherwise you'll never find one that you're happy with!
The Minolta 50mm MD f2 is by far my favourite vintage manual lens find for portraiture . The colour, saturation, sharpness and bokeh all render naturalgl, honestly and accurately…. there are no short cuts with this lens however, such as strong character to get you by, you have to work for it but the results are clear, clean and simple.
Friend of mine told me about gas because I kept buying camera equipment gear vintage lenses old school film cameras and come to think of it it all started because of you and because of your videos that got me into wanting to do vintage film stop photography and vintage film lenses. So thank you so much for your videos.
I have a ton of vintage lenses, I bought a 2 box lot of camera gear from Goodwill for about $200. It had at least 10 decent lenses and about 15 that are so-so at best, but it had one fantastic find (a working EF 20 mm f2.8) and 3 Minolta bodies, with really nice lenses. I think you are right about Minolta being the best kept secret in vintage land. I also have all of my old Canon FD lenses from the film days. I adapt them to my mirror less cameras, sometimes I experiment by taking lenses apart and flipping an element over (on the cheap ones of course) with results all over the place. Some good some bad, but fun and usually easy to reverse. I'm looking for a really swirly bokeh lens like the Helios 44-2, so this is just getting started. Help me! And thanks for going there! I had fun 😂
Great video as usual Mark. As for modern DSLR's I am just lucky that I have the Pentax K-1 and can use any M42 with the official adapter, knowing that the flange distance is the same as my K-mount. Love using the Taks and old Soviet and East German glass on the front of the body without issue.
Another good place for vintage lens are thrift stores. I found many vintage glass for cheap in great usable condition. The other day i found Fufi EBC 135mm F2.5 and 35mm f2.8 for M42 mount for 25$ each.
A vintage lens with certain flaws or character, makes me think more before I press the shutter button. And the manual focus, also often slow me down so I plan the pictures better, so less and better photos. With that said, auto focus is great for moving subjects, where a 50mm f1,4 is pretty hard to get right.
Great video as always Mark. Having started photography in the early 2000s with my uncles old 35mm fully manual SLR I still find it funny how people are intimated by manual focus. I shoot mostly in manual and always have. Obviously shoot auto for events or fast paced work. We all learn differently. It will come to you. There is an indescribable joy about taking your time manually focusing a lens. I always say to people starting out. Take your time and enjoy the process of framing, exposing and focusing. Thats the craft.
To answer your pinned question, primarily cost. I can spend up to £1000 on a body - and have - but modern lenses are too expensive to contemplate. Secondly, the act of photography itself. Vintage manual focus lenses introduce an important aspect into the process. Mindfulness. I don’t shoot action scenes or birds in flight so I can slow everything right down and lose myself in the moment. External distractions are excluded and it’s just me, my camera and the subject. I can create a wee slice of zen for myself. As ever, thanks for the video, it was a treat.
Absolutely loving your channel. I found it because of your “bat glass” video. It’s gotten me to really start looking back into my vintage lens collection. I have a number of old Minolta lenses that I love and use for film photography. Never put them on digital because all my video cameras are ef mount. I may need to pull them out next time I use a c70.
Recently I finally made a set of 60s Carl Zeiss Jena lenses, which are converted to PL mount. Performance of set is awesome. The biggest thing I've learned from vintage lenses is, F number and sharpness are only some aspect of a lens, not whole thing to judge performance of a lens. vintage lenses does have some artistic characteristics only available on that batch, line-up, brand, and era.
But also the manual focus thing. My vintage lens journey made me totally fall in love with manually focussing and getting better at it when shooting on the move. It’s almost the thing I love most now.
ye... I got a canon crop DSLR and really wish I had the focus peaking, but that said, I have like 15 or so vintage lenses cuz theyre the more affordable ones and it's still fun. On the canon you can convert a bunch and use the old canon FDs for macro, great for photography as a hobby/ therapy, at least lol
Russia has no radioactive lenses that I’m aware of. Didn’t have great access to thorium. It’s not a big deal at all but the mere mention of radioactivity will trigger some so it should be mentioned. It’s up to them to make the final decision. Not a lot of them were; some FD’s (earlier ones) and Takumars. Not sure beyond that definitively
Good information, thanks! I definitely wouldn't mind the distortions and fringing on old lenses, because Ive seen them in a lot of movies (especially shot on film) and I find them very beautiful. I love the panning shots on anamorphic, because of interesting things happening on the edges, like the scene is stretching and warping. Very surreal. And sometimes on 8, 16 or supers, you have these beautiful orangish fringing, especially in sunlight. All this looks beautiful on film and I dont know about digital, but I'd definitely use them on a film camera. Every lens and crop has a different psychological feel, so I totally agree there is no such thing as the best lens. You just use what the scene needs. It should be fun changing lenses for even one scene, for closeups, mid, wide, thats the fun part.
thank you, mark, for this video and your valuable advice. I am 66 years old and I find that my sony A7 is transformed when I mount one of my old Zuiko lenses, it becomes beautiful, attractive, it makes you want to go out to use it.Just happiness Have a good day.
I like this format - feels like we're hanging out together. :D Over the past couple of years I've managed to find a number of really nice Minolta, Canon FD, and Takumar lenses. I think word is getting around, though, and the truly cheap deals are getting harder to find. Olympus's OM Zuiko lenses are also fantastic build quality and I recommend them to anyone who comes across them. For folks looking for undervalued items to get into vintage lenses cheaply, there are a number of Soligor lenses out there which are very nice optically and the brand is what drives the value down. Vivitar is another, but I've found them to be fairly hit or miss - they're often fine if you're not shooting them wide open, at which point they become a hazy mess. But if you're doing a creative project where you are going for that look without having to do it in post, they can be a super cheap way to get there. I've bought Vivitar lenses in estate sales for $5 because no one thought they were worth anything.
Thanks! Funny I recorded this back in November and buried it, over thought it into oblivion and just figured, might as well try cutting it down again. lol
Regarding the problem with infinity focus, it's down to the flange focal distance. You can only achieve infinity focus if you adapt a lens to a system with the same or less flange focal distance. If you adapt an M42 lens with an FFD of 45.46mm to a Nikon F-mount camera with 46.5mm you will not get infinity focus. But if you adapt it to let's say a Fuji-X-mount camera with around 17mm you get inf focus. That's also a bonus with mirrorless cameras, they have really small FFDs.
I started my Minolta x300 in early 80s and using lots of camera since then. But I like Minolta the best. Compact size, light weight and large variety of lens with good value. Saturated rich color, some lens real sharp but most of them just in the right point for my need with rich tonality in black and white. Great for film with a timeless feeling.
I’d love a part two q&a session 👍🏽 I love using vintage lenses because they give a lot of character, the quality from cannon, Minolta, and Leica lenses from the 50s-70s is really great, and they’re a lot cheaper than buying modern counterparts.
I think vintage lenses will have a specific character or look to them that modern technology and post can really bring out and make shine, but one thing I've noticed that is definitely a limitation is that on modern or bigger sensors like my A7Rii, after a certain size or resolution images will never truly be 'tack sharp', it's always 'sharp enough' but even when in perfect focus, it will still be a little 'off'.
I have a canon ROS rebel (vintage film camera not a dslr) and it does have the issue where the mirror smacks the adapter. I back the adapter off a bit and I don’t seem to have any issues. Doesn’t seem to affect focus much if at all. I’ve heard you could also pay for a more expensive adapter and not run into this issue.
Thanh for this video. It's really good at all. You know that you have replied to these questions in the comments and some of your videos but it's really neat you put together a video that answer these.
i have like 20+ lenses and i am a underachieving lower middle class photographer. long story short, i have a sony a7rii with a Voigtlander 50mm f2 apo lanther at the top of my shelf, the duo was 2k. turns out my takumar 50mm f1.4 is the best by far. im thinking about buying 10 of them and sitting on them as an investment
While I agree that trying to put together a matching set of vintage photography lenses that were never designed to match for the first place is never going to work out as well as you may hope, one thing that can often help is sticking with lenses of the same coating - sometimes a company will have gone from amber-ish single coatings to blue-ish multi coatings, and staying consistent within one type of coatings can help a bit with colour matching.
Exactly and it’s tough to find accurate documentation to articulate as such. It’s why I mention it, don’t chase a matching set, unless it’s like a prime goal and thrill of the hunt, if it was never designed to match at the time, it’s a fools errand. Work with what you have, matching colour with proper exposure isn’t impossible and gives you control over which you have none. Coating colour casts are very minor and nothing a good colourist can’t correct for.
@@MarkHoltze even if you can get accurate information on how lenses were marked, e.g. "F.Zuiko" being single coated, and "Zuiko MC" or "Zuiko" being multi coated, you never know if, at some point, the lens had the decorative ring with those markings replaced during a repair, so they're no longer accurate. It's best to not worry about it, or shop for lenses in person, or... just buy several examples of each lens, test them all, keep the closest matching ones and sell the rest, if that kind of testing is something you enjoy!
Exactly too many variables, it’s why I didn’t bother to list them all, so much is out of our control in both information and construction. Why I say; not worry about it. I get asked all the time what lenses match best, my simple answer is none of them and just go from there ;) 😆 Thanks for the added info mate, appreciate it it
I started out years ago with my first SLR in the shape of an Olympus OM1. As far as I can remember, it had a 50mm standard lens and I added a Vivitar zoom (of some description) to it. Sadly I lost all this kit. The next DSLR was a Konica-Minolta 5D with a 18-70 and 75-300. Served me well for a few years, but then I wanted something better. Stuck with the A-mount format and got a Sony A550, but still had all auto focus lenses. As I and my eyes got older, the thought of using a manual lens terrified me at first. After I retired, I bought a used Sony A850, my first full frame (apart from the OM1). I had already upped my A550 to an A68, which is the SLT camera, so it has focus peaking and focus magnifying, just like the mirrorless range. I tried out using the lenses I had in MF and although it was possible, the newer AF lenses are not really very good for MF (at least my cheaper lenses). I started off with a couple of Pentacon lenses, a 50mm and 135mm. I persevered with these and eventually decided that full frame was needed, so managed to find a used Sony A99. I had toyed with going mirrorless, but opted to stay without big adapters needed on the E-mount cameras. I have gradually (GAS involved!) built up a collection of vintage lenses, from Pentacon, Carl Zeiss Jena, Chinon, Soligor and Takumars (S-M-C and SMC). I realise that I have a lot of lenses that are maybe not so good and some that are superb and it has taught me a lot about lenses and photography in general. It is thanks to people like yourself, Mark, that have inspired me to experiment, so many thanks. Sorry for the long ramble!
The Nikkor AI-S series e.g. matches perfectly across all focus lengths. I would recommend to stay with one series, otherwise it'll be almost impossible to get a consistent look in post.
I suffered from 'gas' in the beginning and I am now reselling lenses that I no longer wish to use. I am mostly using Pentax/Takumar, Canon, Hexanon and Minolta. Plus a Helios and CJZ. Love the colours from the Minolta glass and the Takumars.
I’m kinda in the same boat, I collected a shit ton of them and now I’m in the process of selling a ton of them, at least they haven’t lost their value!
Happy new year Mark, and as always : thanks for your sharing. Always great, And although you can't be in everyone's mind, your comments help everyone make their own. So.... Thanks again !!! Cheers !!!!
It’s a benchmade, not sure the name of it. Pulled it out because that plastic wrap was so damn abundant. Normally it’s reserved and stowed away in the camping it 😆
Great video Mark, maybe next time you should mention how to storage vintage lenses (glass cabinet vs pelican case, etc.) i have a lot of lenses and space has become a problem Thanks!
Thank you Mark Some good Q&A👍 BTW it was your videos that got me into the Takumar world so a thank you for that, I've had great pleasure using these lenses my 24mm F3.5 being my fav👍 My reason for liking them build quality etc aside, is it brings the user back into the picture so to speak ie I'm making the photo not the camera and all auto aids like focus aperture etc I get a real pleasure from it when you get it right. Yes it can be frustrating at times nailing that focus etc but when it all comes together it brings a smile👍
mate is always a pleasure watching your videos, As you said minolta is a bit of a hidden gem, mine is miranda lenses (cheap as hell because there is no adapter but i have 3d printed mine )
In some cases, most don’t care at all about the tech involved as long as it meets the deliverables and nobody has ever said “no” to using vintage lenses. I make that choice based on the creative brief. Part of the strengths behind being comfortable in what you do. :)
Enjoyed this approach, different from your usual and just as engaging. I shoot a small range of lenses on my EM1 MkII and EM10 MkII in part because they just offer up a different finished article (I don't do much PP especially with the adapted lenses). Got a radioactive Tak 50mm, a Jupiter 13 and a Mir-1 Brussels and the obligatory Helios 58mm plus a few others. All offering up something different. Oh and I'm really fond of Tamron SP lenses, got a few of those too :)
Happy new year Mark. Of course vintages lenses are able to use for movies. For example, in the sixth episode season 3 of The walking dead, I noticed this particular triangular bokeh, it's a rikenon 35mm from 1964. Stunning Nope...?
I only shot film so I’m using my old gear from my Practica, I own a Rebel T7 and wonder about that about the mirror, though I only want and use M42 lenses and I haven’t had any problem with those types.
Ya M42 lenses are generally fine I've noticed. I used to have a 6D ii but it's gone now and M42 lenses never gave me any issues. I didn't use every single focal length of every M42 lens so take that into consideration :)
@@MarkHoltze that’s the best part about them is you shouldn’t have to much adapting them to your digital camera, and the bonus is to test the focal lengths out before buying a modern lens.
I understand I can buy an M42 adapter for my Helios lens but is there a way to remove the mount on the Helios and install a replacement mount so I don’t need to use a large adapter? I’ve been googling but not sure what terms to use.
When it comes to adapting, I order the cine modded lenses from Ironglass and I got them in ef mount. On my s1h I use the sigma mc21. Will the mc21 work fine with vintage lenses adapted to ef mount? I’m asking if an adapter on the lens and camera work fine or not the right way to work? Thanks!
Hey Mark, I've got a question/story for you. I previously owned a Sony a7ii and I had a decent array of Minolta Lenses, of which the 45mm was my favorite. It was razor sharp, looked great for portraits, great colors, and tracked decent in video. I became well known in my circle for portraits with these lenses. I swapped to the Fuji XT-4 just to try something new. I was surprised to find I absolutely did not like ANY of my Minolta's. Some were blurry, the coloring was off and they lost their "magic". Not to mention with the crop factor, my favorite lens went from 45mm to around 69mm (nice). I sold them all to fund native Fuji lenses, but I'm looking to jump back in. Is there any jump off points for lenses you might think work well with crop sensor cameras?
Going from Sony to Fuji, the lens manufacturer was not the biggest issue as much as the focal length. Keep in mind, going from full frame to an APSC sensor, your focal length makes a huge factor in your field of view. I loved my 35mm on my A7R but the 28mm on my Fuji was the perfect focal length. Keep in mind, the 28mm range is considered the “Hollywood” focal length. It’s the right amount of wide, with the right amount of compression. Personally, I would get a Vivitar 28mm f2.8 adopted to the Fuji. IMO it’s going to change the way you feel about it.
@@MarkHoltze I can’t find a definite answer on this 🤷♂️ although I have read some forums saying the Carl Zeiss 50mm f2.8 and the popular Helios 44 are somewhat radioactive. It’s a interesting topic imo
Mark, I have a Q. So are all the Takumar 35mm f/2 versions thoriated? I know, I know. I'm a chicken, lol. But lately I've been moving towards mostly primes in my kit and I'm thinking of selling my Sigma 24-70 Art lens. I just don't really use it past 50-ish mm that often. I'm photography only, shoot with an a7RIV and RIII and plan to use my Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, Sony 50mm 2.5 GM/Super Tak 50mm 1.4 8-element and Sony 135mm GM as my standard kit, but I'd like to get something in the 35ish range that won't break the bank to round that out, and I LOVE my 50mm 1.4 Tak and would like to get another Takumar. I'm not sure the Minolta 35mm options options excite me (and I'm saying that as someone who owns seven Minolta lenses) Maybe a Contax? I would love to get a Zeiss or Voigtlander with 10 blades to get those sexy 10-point sunstars, but after going on a spending spree for camera gear over the last year, my wallet is still warm to the touch, so I want to go look into cheaper options.
Auto Tak 35 2.3 is not thoriated nor is the 35 F3.5. Just the F2’s SMC are. The auto Tak is premium priced because of its age but the 35 3.5 is pretty great. Not as fast but makes very little diff.
Hi, that's entirely up to you, so it's hard for me to answer. I enjoy it, I would possibly look at getting one lens to see how you like it. See if you can find one from a relative or friend you can borrow. You'll just have to get an adapter that goes to the 5100, I'm not sure if it's an e mount or what. Not familiar with the 5 series sony cameras.
@@MarkHoltze I got an emount Sony. Looking at the tt artisan 35 or 23mm. Which one would you recommend. Keeping in mind I have a crop sensor cam haha. Thank you for the reply
Nikon AI Lenses are my best lenses I use on my Canon Cinema cameras far better than native modern Canon lenses, By the way noticed you never talk about Nikkor AI Lenses
I haven't had a lot of experience with them at this point I think that's all. They deserve a lot of attention, maybe one day I'll jump in, I have a 35 laying around I should adapt and mess around with.
Definitely manual Nikkors are worth checking out (don’t ignore the pre-AI versions either). Also probably the best bargains are Konica Hexanon AR lenses - even now they are overlooked by many, but many are optically exceptional, eg the 40mm f1.8, 50mm f1.7, 57mm f1.4 and, if you can find one, the extraordinarily sharp 135mm f3.2. The other great thing about Nikkors are Konicas is they are almost all simple to disassemble, clean up and reassemble (unlike Canon FDs and Olympus Zuikos which I now avoid as a result)
Hi Mark! Got a question for you. How do you know when a takumar 50mm f1.4 7 elements is completely deyellowed? I exposed mine to the sun for several weeks and it has improved a lot, but still doesn't match my canon nifty fifty. Is that never going to happen? Thanks!
Tough to say, it’s not the same lens and very old coatings compared to the canon so it’s doubtful they’ll match 100%. The best way to do it really is dedicated UV light, but even still I doubt they’ll be identical. Not all modern lenses have the same colour casting.
@@MarkHoltze got it! So, it is possible that is already done with the deyellowing process. Anyway, i'll try to find a UV lamp to be sure. Thanks mark!🤗
Sun isn’t enough unfortunately. You need to go full lamp for 24-48 hours. The sun has too much diffusion of UV through atmosphere etc it really isn’t enough focused light to fully reverse it. Cheap UV light. Best way. Might not exactly match the canon 50 as well because different coatings and age could also impact the image. Colour slightly. But it will be much closer that’s for sure
@@MarkHoltze Yes. Additionally, I do think the mount itself is another reason why they aren't as popular. The flange distance is 43.5mm vs the EF's 44mm flange distance, so its very hard to adapt them to an EF mount, and any SR mounts for RED's or ARRI's are like $600 USD. On top of that, Minolta does not still make lenses like Leica or Zeiss and as far as I'm aware never made cine lenses. So there's less recognition. Despite that, Everything I've seen on them, whether from you, Justin Phillip, or reading Uli Plank's recommendations on the RED User Archives, they seem to be as sharp as the Leica's and Zeiss's of the time, and Minolta was known for some of the best quality control. I love them so far, and once I have the set, I'll probably have them simmoded.
shhhhh.... stop telling people about Minolta lenses. Don't want the price going up. Also Mamiya, Yashica and Fuji all have amazing vintage lenses but I don't think that is a big secret. I think what i have found with vintage glass is find the lens that feels the best to use for your style. Things like aperture ring location and focus throw can completely change the experience. Most lenses have great optical quality when used properly and generally pixel peeping for sharpness won't be completed if its an amazing image.
I agree with everything you said about Minolta lenses, I have 50 1.4, 55 1.7, 135 2.8, they are not the charpest but the character they have is amazing, especially 55m, it’s gives the feeling of 70’s movie. Thanks for the vid.
Question #2 - the answers is USE A GODDAMN FILMCAMERA! Just got a Minolta XD and a set of new MD lenses; 28mm f2, 50mm 1.7 and a 135mm f2.8. And 20 rolls of Portra..
Comments from videos. Most of the time the simplest questions come from the least experienced and experience dictates the “complexity” of the questions. Most of the ppl watching these videos are new so…there’s that
I'd love to know why you all enjoy shooting with SLR lenses? Sincerely I'm extremely curious, GO!
Not an SLR lens but since you brought up Minolta I’d recommend the Minolta M-Rokkor 40mm f2 it’s a really great rangefinder lens. That optically is on par with Leica 50mm Summicron.
Honestly the experience is amazing, it’s taught me a lot from how to nail my manual focus to what each focal length feels like, they’re an amazing learning tool, and I’m in love with the feel and the images I can produce
I like that you have to everything manually, well, I do with the lenses I have 👍 I like that most vintage Lenses can be bought relatively cheap, they have fantastic build quality & produce photos that look unique as not all vintage lenses will give the exact same quality of photo 😁
@@Pmike404 Thanks for that! 40mm is a focal length i almost always pass over time and time again. Might need to rethink that.
@@IXISSV Love it! Thanks mate!
Good to see you again Mark.
Good to see you as well! Hope you had a nice holiday!
Using vintage lenses was my start into a totaly new world of Photography. Using old Canon fd lenses, setting aperture and focus manually was so much more plastics. The next step was to get more lenses, and on one purchse was a manual camera attached. The first shit film was so exciting and It ended with now round about 10 Bodies out of different centuries and a whole bunch of special and unique lenses. It feels like a time travel using all these cameras and enjoy the sensation of using external light meters and adjust everything very carefully.
This made me think more about my photography in advance, which also improves my workflow with modern cameras.
All in all I am a gearhead and have much fun, buying, using, repairing and bringing old camera gear back to live.
Well done Q&A episode Mark! Regarding vintage lenses and because I am an environmentalist, I like the fact that they help us realize that objects made up to the 70s or 80s were built to last much longer than they do now. Vintage lenses incorporate mostly metal and little plastic and are robust in design. This is why we can still use them today. Camera (and accessories) manufacturers need to rediscover this important aspect on a planet with limited resources.
I got into shooting vintage lenses because i purchased mine in the 70 and 80s.
Just purchased my first digital camera and now useing my old lense are fun.
What an investment those old lenses ended up being lol. Good on you mate!
Super cool that your family has that history shooting with film cameras!
Completely agree that when it comes to vintage lenses, it's best to work around their weaknesses, and turn them into strengths. Otherwise you'll never find one that you're happy with!
The Minolta 50mm MD f2 is by far my favourite vintage manual lens find for portraiture . The colour, saturation, sharpness and bokeh all render naturalgl, honestly and accurately…. there are no short cuts with this lens however, such as strong character to get you by, you have to work for it but the results are clear, clean and simple.
Nicely said Jeff! Thanks!!!
Once again, thank you. Konica deserves attention too.
Friend of mine told me about gas because I kept buying camera equipment gear vintage lenses old school film cameras and come to think of it it all started because of you and because of your videos that got me into wanting to do vintage film stop photography and vintage film lenses. So thank you so much for your videos.
You know you have GAS when you don't know for sure how many lenses you have (or camera's). So yah... I have GAS
I have a ton of vintage lenses, I bought a 2 box lot of camera gear from Goodwill for about $200. It had at least 10 decent lenses and about 15 that are so-so at best, but it had one fantastic find (a working EF 20 mm f2.8) and 3 Minolta bodies, with really nice lenses. I think you are right about Minolta being the best kept secret in vintage land. I also have all of my old Canon FD lenses from the film days. I adapt them to my mirror less cameras, sometimes I experiment by taking lenses apart and flipping an element over (on the cheap ones of course) with results all over the place. Some good some bad, but fun and usually easy to reverse. I'm looking for a really swirly bokeh lens like the Helios 44-2, so this is just getting started. Help me!
And thanks for going there! I had fun 😂
Great video as usual Mark. As for modern DSLR's I am just lucky that I have the Pentax K-1 and can use any M42 with the official adapter, knowing that the flange distance is the same as my K-mount. Love using the Taks and old Soviet and East German glass on the front of the body without issue.
Mark Holtze is a legend. As honest as they get too.
Finally, mark’s back
good to be back "in the chair" ;)
Another good place for vintage lens are thrift stores. I found many vintage glass for cheap in great usable condition. The other day i found Fufi EBC 135mm F2.5 and 35mm f2.8 for M42 mount for 25$ each.
Absolutely
A vintage lens with certain flaws or character, makes me think more before I press the shutter button.
And the manual focus, also often slow me down so I plan the pictures better, so less and better photos.
With that said, auto focus is great for moving subjects, where a 50mm f1,4 is pretty hard to get right.
Great video as always Mark.
Having started photography in the early 2000s with my uncles old 35mm fully manual SLR I still find it funny how people are intimated by manual focus. I shoot mostly in manual and always have. Obviously shoot auto for events or fast paced work. We all learn differently. It will come to you. There is an indescribable joy about taking your time manually focusing a lens. I always say to people starting out. Take your time and enjoy the process of framing, exposing and focusing. Thats the craft.
To answer your pinned question, primarily cost. I can spend up to £1000 on a body - and have - but modern lenses are too expensive to contemplate. Secondly, the act of photography itself. Vintage manual focus lenses introduce an important aspect into the process. Mindfulness. I don’t shoot action scenes or birds in flight so I can slow everything right down and lose myself in the moment. External distractions are excluded and it’s just me, my camera and the subject. I can create a wee slice of zen for myself. As ever, thanks for the video, it was a treat.
Wonderfully articulated my friend! Thanks so much for your insight and experience! ✊
Absolutely loving your channel. I found it because of your “bat glass” video. It’s gotten me to really start looking back into my vintage lens collection. I have a number of old Minolta lenses that I love and use for film photography. Never put them on digital because all my video cameras are ef mount. I may need to pull them out next time I use a c70.
Minoltas are still vintage lens best kept secret! Fantastic! Which ones do you have?
Recently I finally made a set of 60s Carl Zeiss Jena lenses, which are converted to PL mount. Performance of set is awesome. The biggest thing I've learned from vintage lenses is, F number and sharpness are only some aspect of a lens, not whole thing to judge performance of a lens. vintage lenses does have some artistic characteristics only available on that batch, line-up, brand, and era.
Absolutely
It’s a great pleseare watch your vídeos!!! Thanks for your work and information.
Mate. This style of video is awesome. So refreshing and great to see you back. 🙌🙌
But also the manual focus thing. My vintage lens journey made me totally fall in love with manually focussing and getting better at it when shooting on the move. It’s almost the thing I love most now.
@@120fps why do we punish ourselves with that? lol
Lots of editing lol, but glad I sat on it for the last 2 months, wasn't up for the task when I shot it lol. Thanks!
ye... I got a canon crop DSLR and really wish I had the focus peaking, but that said, I have like 15 or so vintage lenses cuz theyre the more affordable ones and it's still fun. On the canon you can convert a bunch and use the old canon FDs for macro, great for photography as a hobby/ therapy, at least lol
Great video - you mentioned radioactivity twice - how big a thing is this with vintage lenses - is mainly to do with those from Russia ?
Russia has no radioactive lenses that I’m aware of. Didn’t have great access to thorium. It’s not a big deal at all but the mere mention of radioactivity will trigger some so it should be mentioned. It’s up to them to make the final decision. Not a lot of them were; some FD’s (earlier ones) and Takumars. Not sure beyond that definitively
Definitely make another! We LOVE hearing you talk!!!
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Good information, thanks!
I definitely wouldn't mind the distortions and fringing on old lenses, because Ive seen them in a lot of movies (especially shot on film) and I find them very beautiful.
I love the panning shots on anamorphic, because of interesting things happening on the edges, like the scene is stretching and warping. Very surreal. And sometimes on 8, 16 or supers, you have these beautiful orangish fringing, especially in sunlight. All this looks beautiful on film and I dont know about digital, but I'd definitely use them on a film camera. Every lens and crop has a different psychological feel, so I totally agree there is no such thing as the best lens. You just use what the scene needs. It should be fun changing lenses for even one scene, for closeups, mid, wide, thats the fun part.
💥 nicely said mate. Totally feel you on those CA’s in some of my fav films.
Hi Mark, It would be great to see a side by side comparison of CONTAX Zeiss versus Takumar versus modern lenses. To show pros and cons.
thank you, mark, for this video and your valuable advice. I am 66 years old and I find that my sony A7 is transformed when I mount one of my old Zuiko lenses, it becomes beautiful, attractive, it makes you want to go out to use it.Just happiness
Have a good day.
Thanks my friend! Same to you! Thanks for stopping by!
I like this format - feels like we're hanging out together. :D
Over the past couple of years I've managed to find a number of really nice Minolta, Canon FD, and Takumar lenses. I think word is getting around, though, and the truly cheap deals are getting harder to find. Olympus's OM Zuiko lenses are also fantastic build quality and I recommend them to anyone who comes across them. For folks looking for undervalued items to get into vintage lenses cheaply, there are a number of Soligor lenses out there which are very nice optically and the brand is what drives the value down. Vivitar is another, but I've found them to be fairly hit or miss - they're often fine if you're not shooting them wide open, at which point they become a hazy mess. But if you're doing a creative project where you are going for that look without having to do it in post, they can be a super cheap way to get there. I've bought Vivitar lenses in estate sales for $5 because no one thought they were worth anything.
Awesome mate !!! Kick ass as usual
Thanks! Funny I recorded this back in November and buried it, over thought it into oblivion and just figured, might as well try cutting it down again. lol
Regarding the problem with infinity focus, it's down to the flange focal distance. You can only achieve infinity focus if you adapt a lens to a system with the same or less flange focal distance. If you adapt an M42 lens with an FFD of 45.46mm to a Nikon F-mount camera with 46.5mm you will not get infinity focus. But if you adapt it to let's say a Fuji-X-mount camera with around 17mm you get inf focus. That's also a bonus with mirrorless cameras, they have really small FFDs.
I started my Minolta x300 in early 80s and using lots of camera since then. But I like Minolta the best. Compact size, light weight and large variety of lens with good value. Saturated rich color, some lens real sharp but most of them just in the right point for my need with rich tonality in black and white. Great for film with a timeless feeling.
I’d love a part two q&a session 👍🏽
I love using vintage lenses because they give a lot of character, the quality from cannon, Minolta, and Leica lenses from the 50s-70s is really great, and they’re a lot cheaper than buying modern counterparts.
Need to get a live Q&A thread going on, wish it was a bit more conversational. I'd love to be able to real time discuss this stuff with you all.
@@MarkHoltze that would be very cool.
Ohhhh baby Minolta
Gotta love giving them some love :D
I think vintage lenses will have a specific character or look to them that modern technology and post can really bring out and make shine, but one thing I've noticed that is definitely a limitation is that on modern or bigger sensors like my A7Rii, after a certain size or resolution images will never truly be 'tack sharp', it's always 'sharp enough' but even when in perfect focus, it will still be a little 'off'.
I have a canon ROS rebel (vintage film camera not a dslr) and it does have the issue where the mirror smacks the adapter. I back the adapter off a bit and I don’t seem to have any issues. Doesn’t seem to affect focus much if at all. I’ve heard you could also pay for a more expensive adapter and not run into this issue.
Thanh for this video. It's really good at all. You know that you have replied to these questions in the comments and some of your videos but it's really neat you put together a video that answer these.
Thanks mate! ✊
i have like 20+ lenses and i am a underachieving lower middle class photographer. long story short, i have a sony a7rii with a Voigtlander 50mm f2 apo lanther at the top of my shelf, the duo was 2k. turns out my takumar 50mm f1.4 is the best by far. im thinking about buying 10 of them and sitting on them as an investment
While I agree that trying to put together a matching set of vintage photography lenses that were never designed to match for the first place is never going to work out as well as you may hope, one thing that can often help is sticking with lenses of the same coating - sometimes a company will have gone from amber-ish single coatings to blue-ish multi coatings, and staying consistent within one type of coatings can help a bit with colour matching.
Exactly and it’s tough to find accurate documentation to articulate as such. It’s why I mention it, don’t chase a matching set, unless it’s like a prime goal and thrill of the hunt, if it was never designed to match at the time, it’s a fools errand. Work with what you have, matching colour with proper exposure isn’t impossible and gives you control over which you have none. Coating colour casts are very minor and nothing a good colourist can’t correct for.
@@MarkHoltze even if you can get accurate information on how lenses were marked, e.g. "F.Zuiko" being single coated, and "Zuiko MC" or "Zuiko" being multi coated, you never know if, at some point, the lens had the decorative ring with those markings replaced during a repair, so they're no longer accurate. It's best to not worry about it, or shop for lenses in person, or... just buy several examples of each lens, test them all, keep the closest matching ones and sell the rest, if that kind of testing is something you enjoy!
Exactly too many variables, it’s why I didn’t bother to list them all, so much is out of our control in both information and construction. Why I say; not worry about it. I get asked all the time what lenses match best, my simple answer is none of them and just go from there ;) 😆
Thanks for the added info mate, appreciate it it
I started out years ago with my first SLR in the shape of an Olympus OM1. As far as I can remember, it had a 50mm standard lens and I added a Vivitar zoom (of some description) to it. Sadly I lost all this kit. The next DSLR was a Konica-Minolta 5D with a 18-70 and 75-300. Served me well for a few years, but then I wanted something better. Stuck with the A-mount format and got a Sony A550, but still had all auto focus lenses. As I and my eyes got older, the thought of using a manual lens terrified me at first. After I retired, I bought a used Sony A850, my first full frame (apart from the OM1). I had already upped my A550 to an A68, which is the SLT camera, so it has focus peaking and focus magnifying, just like the mirrorless range. I tried out using the lenses I had in MF and although it was possible, the newer AF lenses are not really very good for MF (at least my cheaper lenses). I started off with a couple of Pentacon lenses, a 50mm and 135mm. I persevered with these and eventually decided that full frame was needed, so managed to find a used Sony A99. I had toyed with going mirrorless, but opted to stay without big adapters needed on the E-mount cameras. I have gradually (GAS involved!) built up a collection of vintage lenses, from Pentacon, Carl Zeiss Jena, Chinon, Soligor and Takumars (S-M-C and SMC). I realise that I have a lot of lenses that are maybe not so good and some that are superb and it has taught me a lot about lenses and photography in general. It is thanks to people like yourself, Mark, that have inspired me to experiment, so many thanks. Sorry for the long ramble!
Welcome back! I love how you kind of found a niche on the road and I still enjoy what you do/create/teach 🤔👍🏼
Awesome video. Enjoyed it.
Thanks mate!
There are no limitations, only attributes to be used or abused to creative advantage.
Perfectly stated William! Respect ✊
Great video, Mark!
Thank you!
I have two vivitar zoom lenses both Olympus fit and one won't focus to infinity but other does which I didn't know until later
The Nikkor AI-S series e.g. matches perfectly across all focus lengths. I would recommend to stay with one series, otherwise it'll be almost impossible to get a consistent look in post.
I suffered from 'gas' in the beginning and I am now reselling lenses that I no longer wish to use. I am mostly using Pentax/Takumar, Canon, Hexanon and Minolta. Plus a Helios and CJZ. Love the colours from the Minolta glass and the Takumars.
I’m kinda in the same boat, I collected a shit ton of them and now I’m in the process of selling a ton of them, at least they haven’t lost their value!
Happy new year Mark, and as always : thanks for your sharing.
Always great,
And although you can't be in everyone's mind, your comments help everyone make their own.
So....
Thanks again !!!
Cheers !!!!
Thank YOU!
Happy 2022!
Always a pleasure to watch your work, positive and creative.
Keep on rambling.
Being a collector of pocket knives, I have to ask: what kind of knife are you using at 6:50 ?
It’s a benchmade, not sure the name of it. Pulled it out because that plastic wrap was so damn abundant. Normally it’s reserved and stowed away in the camping it 😆
Good job A’ing some Q’s
Thanks Jared! Happy new year buddy. Best this trip around the Sun.
Ok! Thank you. So then do another one!
Question number 11 where did you get the template for the vintage lens files video? Can you share it or give us a tutorial on how to create it?
Great video Mark, maybe next time you should mention how to storage vintage lenses (glass cabinet vs pelican case, etc.)
i have a lot of lenses and space has become a problem
Thanks!
Thank you Mark Some good Q&A👍
BTW it was your videos that got me into the Takumar world so a thank you for that, I've had great pleasure using these lenses my 24mm F3.5 being my fav👍
My reason for liking them build quality etc aside, is it brings the user back into the picture so to speak ie I'm making the photo not the camera and all auto aids like focus aperture etc I get a real pleasure from it when you get it right. Yes it can be frustrating at times nailing that focus etc but when it all comes together it brings a smile👍
Why come I wind up buying a new lens every time I watch your videos?!? Aha nice brotha
I am sorry for that lol. I hope you like them at least :)
@@MarkHoltze love them all for sure :)
mate is always a pleasure watching your videos, As you said minolta is a bit of a hidden gem, mine is miranda lenses (cheap as hell because there is no adapter but i have 3d printed mine )
You did? Brilliant mate!
Gotta collect them all
Great video mate- great advice!
Thanks mate! Aces!!
@@MarkHoltze haha cheers
Mark, do you consult with clients prior to using vintage lenses ?
In some cases, most don’t care at all about the tech involved as long as it meets the deliverables and nobody has ever said “no” to using vintage lenses. I make that choice based on the creative brief. Part of the strengths behind being comfortable in what you do. :)
Enjoyed this approach, different from your usual and just as engaging. I shoot a small range of lenses on my EM1 MkII and EM10 MkII in part because they just offer up a different finished article (I don't do much PP especially with the adapted lenses). Got a radioactive Tak 50mm, a Jupiter 13 and a Mir-1 Brussels and the obligatory Helios 58mm plus a few others. All offering up something different. Oh and I'm really fond of Tamron SP lenses, got a few of those too :)
Happy new year Mark.
Of course vintages lenses are able to use for movies. For example, in the sixth episode season 3 of The walking dead, I noticed this particular triangular bokeh, it's a rikenon 35mm from 1964. Stunning Nope...?
love what you do man! hey can I ask what size gear ring you use for the Takumur 35 ? and if you have a link
Another good video with great advices. Waiting for another one!
I only shot film so I’m using my old gear from my Practica, I own a Rebel T7 and wonder about that about the mirror, though I only want and use M42 lenses and I haven’t had any problem with those types.
Ya M42 lenses are generally fine I've noticed. I used to have a 6D ii but it's gone now and M42 lenses never gave me any issues. I didn't use every single focal length of every M42 lens so take that into consideration :)
@@MarkHoltze that’s the best part about them is you shouldn’t have to much adapting them to your digital camera, and the bonus is to test the focal lengths out before buying a modern lens.
Big time! ✊
yesss new video
I understand I can buy an M42 adapter for my Helios lens but is there a way to remove the mount on the Helios and install a replacement mount so I don’t need to use a large adapter?
I’ve been googling but not sure what terms to use.
Well done
Merci!
@@MarkHoltze Mark, keep it up what you’re doing. Nothing beats knowledge and good sense.
Anyone have experience with a Yeenon macro adapter? Really curious if the build quality is worth the extra cost.
sometimes if you just don't know what lens that gonna show up, just put the price range and you gonna find something interesting there
Roll of the dice for sure!
When it comes to adapting, I order the cine modded lenses from Ironglass and I got them in ef mount. On my s1h I use the sigma mc21. Will the mc21 work fine with vintage lenses adapted to ef mount? I’m asking if an adapter on the lens and camera work fine or not the right way to work? Thanks!
Besides ebay, any recommendations for where to buy online?
Facebook marketplaces, local area marketplace (Kijiji) Gear Focus is starting to get more older slr stuff on there.
@@MarkHoltze gratitude. I'm in Jamaica, the vintage gear local scene is extremely small, so sadly ebay and etsy is my go to
Hey Mark, I've got a question/story for you. I previously owned a Sony a7ii and I had a decent array of Minolta Lenses, of which the 45mm was my favorite. It was razor sharp, looked great for portraits, great colors, and tracked decent in video. I became well known in my circle for portraits with these lenses. I swapped to the Fuji XT-4 just to try something new. I was surprised to find I absolutely did not like ANY of my Minolta's. Some were blurry, the coloring was off and they lost their "magic". Not to mention with the crop factor, my favorite lens went from 45mm to around 69mm (nice). I sold them all to fund native Fuji lenses, but I'm looking to jump back in. Is there any jump off points for lenses you might think work well with crop sensor cameras?
Going from Sony to Fuji, the lens manufacturer was not the biggest issue as much as the focal length. Keep in mind, going from full frame to an APSC sensor, your focal length makes a huge factor in your field of view. I loved my 35mm on my A7R but the 28mm on my Fuji was the perfect focal length. Keep in mind, the 28mm range is considered the “Hollywood” focal length. It’s the right amount of wide, with the right amount of compression. Personally, I would get a Vivitar 28mm f2.8 adopted to the Fuji. IMO it’s going to change the way you feel about it.
Holtze always gives me a bad case of VL GAS. Damn you, Holtze! So, Minolta, eh?
They’re great, got a few reviews up, boom hasn’t happened yet so shhhh, but ya Rokkors!
Can you tell us about Russian old lens that are radioactive
Could be wrong but it’s understanding none of the Soviet lenses were thoriated.
@@MarkHoltze I can’t find a definite answer on this 🤷♂️ although I have read some forums saying the Carl Zeiss 50mm f2.8 and the popular Helios 44 are somewhat radioactive. It’s a interesting topic imo
Helios wasn’t. Russians didn’t have the resources to radiate their optics. They kept it super simple
Mark, I have a Q. So are all the Takumar 35mm f/2 versions thoriated? I know, I know. I'm a chicken, lol. But lately I've been moving towards mostly primes in my kit and I'm thinking of selling my Sigma 24-70 Art lens. I just don't really use it past 50-ish mm that often. I'm photography only, shoot with an a7RIV and RIII and plan to use my Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, Sony 50mm 2.5 GM/Super Tak 50mm 1.4 8-element and Sony 135mm GM as my standard kit, but I'd like to get something in the 35ish range that won't break the bank to round that out, and I LOVE my 50mm 1.4 Tak and would like to get another Takumar. I'm not sure the Minolta 35mm options options excite me (and I'm saying that as someone who owns seven Minolta lenses) Maybe a Contax?
I would love to get a Zeiss or Voigtlander with 10 blades to get those sexy 10-point sunstars, but after going on a spending spree for camera gear over the last year, my wallet is still warm to the touch, so I want to go look into cheaper options.
Auto Tak 35 2.3 is not thoriated nor is the 35 F3.5. Just the F2’s SMC are. The auto Tak is premium priced because of its age but the 35 3.5 is pretty great. Not as fast but makes very little diff.
Perfect thanks!
Where can you find out about the local markets? I'd like to go check it out.
I love your videos Mark… How many vintage lenses do you have?
when to stop buying vintage lenses?
Hello Mark. I recently got an a5100 and wanted to learn videography. I only have the kit lens. Is it worth purchasing affordable manual lenses?
Hi, that's entirely up to you, so it's hard for me to answer. I enjoy it, I would possibly look at getting one lens to see how you like it. See if you can find one from a relative or friend you can borrow. You'll just have to get an adapter that goes to the 5100, I'm not sure if it's an e mount or what. Not familiar with the 5 series sony cameras.
@@MarkHoltze I got an emount Sony. Looking at the tt artisan 35 or 23mm. Which one would you recommend. Keeping in mind I have a crop sensor cam haha. Thank you for the reply
Nikon AI Lenses are my best lenses I use on my Canon Cinema cameras far better than native modern Canon lenses, By the way noticed you never talk about Nikkor AI Lenses
I haven't had a lot of experience with them at this point I think that's all. They deserve a lot of attention, maybe one day I'll jump in, I have a 35 laying around I should adapt and mess around with.
@@MarkHoltze They are a mix o sharpness, Contrast and Build that actual standars can achieve only with real high prices, Give them a try
Definitely manual Nikkors are worth checking out (don’t ignore the pre-AI versions either). Also probably the best bargains are Konica Hexanon AR lenses - even now they are overlooked by many, but many are optically exceptional, eg the 40mm f1.8, 50mm f1.7, 57mm f1.4 and, if you can find one, the extraordinarily sharp 135mm f3.2. The other great thing about Nikkors are Konicas is they are almost all simple to disassemble, clean up and reassemble (unlike Canon FDs and Olympus Zuikos which I now avoid as a result)
Hi Mark! Got a question for you. How do you know when a takumar 50mm f1.4 7 elements is completely deyellowed? I exposed mine to the sun for several weeks and it has improved a lot, but still doesn't match my canon nifty fifty. Is that never going to happen? Thanks!
Tough to say, it’s not the same lens and very old coatings compared to the canon so it’s doubtful they’ll match 100%. The best way to do it really is dedicated UV light, but even still I doubt they’ll be identical. Not all modern lenses have the same colour casting.
@@MarkHoltze got it! So, it is possible that is already done with the deyellowing process. Anyway, i'll try to find a UV lamp to be sure. Thanks mark!🤗
Never tried it out meself.... But thought I'd share it anyway. Have seen a video on the Tube here as well wrt that.
Sun isn’t enough unfortunately. You need to go full lamp for 24-48 hours. The sun has too much diffusion of UV through atmosphere etc it really isn’t enough focused light to fully reverse it.
Cheap UV light. Best way. Might not exactly match the canon 50 as well because different coatings and age could also impact the image. Colour slightly. But it will be much closer that’s for sure
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Fujifilm or Sony with vintage lens ?
Either or. Fujifilm is crop sensor so not full resolving power of lenses, but great form factor and I don’t mind a little crop :)
Helicoid adapters help overcome one of the biggest limitations of vintage lenses close focus. Don't buy the super cheap ones🤬
Something I need to look into after all these years! Thanks for reminder Ryan!
Uppps ... Minolta Lenses doubled in price :-)
Shut up! You're going to drive up the price on the minoltas before I've collected a whole set! Jokes aside, I'm glad they're getting more attention.
Not enough people are watching we’re good for now 😆
@@MarkHoltze Yes. Additionally, I do think the mount itself is another reason why they aren't as popular. The flange distance is 43.5mm vs the EF's 44mm flange distance, so its very hard to adapt them to an EF mount, and any SR mounts for RED's or ARRI's are like $600 USD. On top of that, Minolta does not still make lenses like Leica or Zeiss and as far as I'm aware never made cine lenses. So there's less recognition. Despite that, Everything I've seen on them, whether from you, Justin Phillip, or reading Uli Plank's recommendations on the RED User Archives, they seem to be as sharp as the Leica's and Zeiss's of the time, and Minolta was known for some of the best quality control. I love them so far, and once I have the set, I'll probably have them simmoded.
"Is anyone still here?" 🙋🏻lol
shhhhh.... stop telling people about Minolta lenses. Don't want the price going up. Also Mamiya, Yashica and Fuji all have amazing vintage lenses but I don't think that is a big secret. I think what i have found with vintage glass is find the lens that feels the best to use for your style. Things like aperture ring location and focus throw can completely change the experience. Most lenses have great optical quality when used properly and generally pixel peeping for sharpness won't be completed if its an amazing image.
Shhhhh, I debated putting that in but it’s buried and only the loyal will make it to that point. But you’re right, shhhhhh
I agree with everything you said about Minolta lenses, I have 50 1.4, 55 1.7, 135 2.8, they are not the charpest but the character they have is amazing, especially 55m, it’s gives the feeling of 70’s movie.
Thanks for the vid.
Question #2 - the answers is USE A GODDAMN FILMCAMERA! Just got a Minolta XD and a set of new MD lenses; 28mm f2, 50mm 1.7 and a 135mm f2.8. And 20 rolls of Portra..
What a find? Where did you pick this package up? Local or online?
@@MarkHoltze Local seller. I must have done something good so karma rewarded me with this fabulous collection of toys 🌹🥳
Who is asking these questions? They are mediocre at best.
Comments from videos. Most of the time the simplest questions come from the least experienced and experience dictates the “complexity” of the questions. Most of the ppl watching these videos are new so…there’s that