Game 5: You can feel Hbox getting ready to unleash an astronomical popoff, and you can feel Leffen getting ready to tweet and complain about how puff has the ability to jump and should be removed, just in case he loses.
This was such an exciting set, a true rollercoaster of emotion. Leffen dominating, Hbox bringing it back, Leffen finally clutching it out all made it very fun to watch!
@Duke what? I'm saying they are, which is why the input numbers are as high as they are, there's just a big difference between clicking a button and rolling the analog stick. Every good puff has crazy high inputs, not an hbox exclusive thing
I wanted Leffen to win but the Clutchbox moment at the end of game 4 made me pop off low key... At least I was glad it was close after the one sided first two games. Amazing set between these two as always
What a treat to still see these two competing in 2023. Only time will tell how many games these two have vs each other. Also: always great to see Hbox’s “are ya’ll seeing this?” face when someone else pops off lol
Despite the tough game 5 loss I think Hbox deserves major props for staying in the tournament despite the unfortunate circumstances with his controller with two phobs going bad on him and he even had to switch after game 1 against zain. Hbox even said he really wanted to dq but he perserved and beat aklo and took leffen to the limit here. Compare that to mango who decided to go marth in losers against s2j and got 3-0d. You would think that mango would want to prove himself at his return back but clearly that is not the case. Hbox has had many chances where he could DQ like mango has done so many times but he has shown yet again that he is a true and honest competitor.
Mango should just retire. He clearly does not care about competing anymore and his GOAT status he knows is a joke (has not been ranked first since 2014)
@@AL-lh2ht We all love when he does good but the truth is he's just not that consistent anymore and it's clear he just can't keep up with today's top players. He doesn't try to reinvent his play style at all and completely disregards his fox (who gave him his last biggest tourny win). I feel the current mango is just too lazy to be a 2023 try hard melee competitor 😢
All ya'll in the comments need to stfu. If mang0 wants to play Marth, let him play Marth. How many times does he have to prove himself to you? Life is not all about games. You are not entitled to how another person decides to live their life.
@@rambo3rd471 I never said he cant play marth I was just making an observation, and he doesn't need to prove anything to me but being that melee is his main source of income I'm sure he does want to continue winning
@@rambo3rd471 and for mango in particular yea his life kinda is and has been all about this video game. It's not like he has a pension or a trade skill to support himself but I get your point
This Hungryboy really likes Melee. He probably plays ultimate too. His character pick for each game gets more unpredictable every year. They need to design one he can not master.
@@daimajin266 you’re right, my mistake. I saw the head to head just now and I thought leffen had lost more in the recent months. Leffen just hates losing to hbox lol. I still want him to win
In some areas like RTC rest and general meta adaptions sure but did you watch how composed, cold and accurate 2019 Juan was. Bro made Melee look solved and was the guy for a reason and i still think if Covid and Ult stream wouldn't have happend he would be a Top 3 guy till this day.
@@PalPlays that's also a part but look at some sets from Hbox and how clean he played. The dude didn't drop his stuff compared to now where he looks like an actual glass cannon player. There is a clear difference in aura when he plays now aswell in my opinion. You know that feeling Zain gave everyone in the last 3 years? That's what i mean. It was MU experience aswell but i still think he sort of is a lesser player in a lot stuff now than the past most dominant force in the game.
@@rannynihilius8481 I would say there are a few factors as to why Hbox is preforming differently. One would be that he doesn't have Chruch around anymore to help him. I would say Chruch was a big boost in both his moral and analytical skills. Second is that he's focusing more on ultimate/streaming. People can call it johns, but at the end of the day streaming/expanding your brand will net you more money than winning a tourney.
@@NatePhan i think that Slippi made everyone better but a few players that really thrived in normal CRT enviroments like Axe, Plup and him actually worse aswell as your named factors mentioned above.
Fox lasers solve like 90% of the matchup for him, its crazy just how overwhelmingly powerful he is vs Puff. Honestly, I have no idea how HBox hasnt ragequit this game. If I had to fight my worst MU at top level as often as he does I'd go mentally insane.
You and it seems like all other players in the commentary have no fucking clue, how hard it is, to shoot those sh lasers and sh double lasers in the right timing and to be aware all the time, to not get punished for it, hardest tech/aware moment in the Game. 99% of you are just talking nonsense, without being nearly on that lvl or be in that spot. There was a 1% chance Leffen could won, after hbox has a lead and could camp the whole game on the ledge and you don't have valid options to beat it, the risk reward is insanely bad. Leffen just had luck, that huan decided to approach after 1 minute, what his was his fault, but there was no needing for hin to do that.
Can we all agree now that HBOX is the true GOAT of melee. Mango is a bum. I could accept Mango atleast trying his best and losing, but the sandbagging is unacceptable. He is disrespecting himself and the other competitors when he does this crap. I cant with this guy anymore, WTF.
Retire to do what? Melee is his only income, he has no job outside of that, no education, a kid to raise, and he's an over 30+ alchoolic what do you want him to do beside playing smash?
Game 5: You can feel Hbox getting ready to unleash an astronomical popoff, and you can feel Leffen getting ready to tweet and complain about how puff has the ability to jump and should be removed, just in case he loses.
Best comment of the day😂
I love that the water bottle throw was timed with the victory music. Perfect synergy
Frame perfect
Leffen Victory animation
hahahahahah i laughed so hard
Someone rapidly gif it 5-6 times idk
mission complete
The shimmy into getting instantly bodied was so funny LOL
This was such an exciting set, a true rollercoaster of emotion. Leffen dominating, Hbox bringing it back, Leffen finally clutching it out all made it very fun to watch!
Goddamn you are on every smash vod I see loool
Leffen is out here creating a new stage hazard.
Bro 702 inputs per minute with puff is crazy
if you think that’s crazy, the next 3 players ALSO had exactly 702 ipm
pretty sure that counts drift inputs, so really not very surprising thats kinda puffs thing
@@Bikegod1 I mean are they not inputs?...
@Duke what? I'm saying they are, which is why the input numbers are as high as they are, there's just a big difference between clicking a button and rolling the analog stick. Every good puff has crazy high inputs, not an hbox exclusive thing
@@zweePOP they hadn't. If you compare it was 1:1 the exact same stats sheet
17:23 missed an edge-guard that 2019 Hbox gets every time
so refreshing to hear actual good commentary
Hi thorik :D big fan of ur music
I wanted Leffen to win but the Clutchbox moment at the end of game 4 made me pop off low key... At least I was glad it was close after the one sided first two games. Amazing set between these two as always
why would you ever want Leffen to win??
@@DGSnowolf he's my fav player so ...
@@Feisty123 I am sorry to hear that...
@@DGSnowolfclown
@@animaIpath oh no he's worse than a clown
What a treat to still see these two competing in 2023. Only time will tell how many games these two have vs each other. Also: always great to see Hbox’s “are ya’ll seeing this?” face when someone else pops off lol
18:57 for those who came to see it
Great battle. Good to see these sports go at it, great job to Leffen for the win and popoff
We should have a "Leffen arguing limit"
Hbox so salty with the pop-off like he doesn't do that shit on a weekly basis 😂
That might be better than grand finals lol
Despite the tough game 5 loss I think Hbox deserves major props for staying in the tournament despite the unfortunate circumstances with his controller with two phobs going bad on him and he even had to switch after game 1 against zain. Hbox even said he really wanted to dq but he perserved and beat aklo and took leffen to the limit here. Compare that to mango who decided to go marth in losers against s2j and got 3-0d. You would think that mango would want to prove himself at his return back but clearly that is not the case. Hbox has had many chances where he could DQ like mango has done so many times but he has shown yet again that he is a true and honest competitor.
Mango should just retire. He clearly does not care about competing anymore and his GOAT status he knows is a joke (has not been ranked first since 2014)
@@AL-lh2ht We all love when he does good but the truth is he's just not that consistent anymore and it's clear he just can't keep up with today's top players. He doesn't try to reinvent his play style at all and completely disregards his fox (who gave him his last biggest tourny win). I feel the current mango is just too lazy to be a 2023 try hard melee competitor 😢
All ya'll in the comments need to stfu. If mang0 wants to play Marth, let him play Marth. How many times does he have to prove himself to you? Life is not all about games. You are not entitled to how another person decides to live their life.
@@rambo3rd471 I never said he cant play marth I was just making an observation, and he doesn't need to prove anything to me but being that melee is his main source of income I'm sure he does want to continue winning
@@rambo3rd471 and for mango in particular yea his life kinda is and has been all about this video game. It's not like he has a pension or a trade skill to support himself but I get your point
Amazing set fellas! Close 😮💨
16:57 The visible tilt though. LOOOOL
shimmy so corny lmao
Last stock game 5, that's the set between rivals we like to see
set of the year so far
insane game
As exciting as it can get!
This Hungryboy really likes Melee. He probably plays ultimate too. His character pick for each game gets more unpredictable every year. They need to design one he can not master.
The graphic at the end was dope. Can y’all add a “total stocks lost” column x/20 ?
I thought this match up was impossible and Puff was unbeatable? How did Leffen win?
Game 3 insanity
Great set, gg
hbox so salty whenever someone else than him pop off's . manchild
Hbox looks like a straight up buster w/ that gold chain.
Not a good look for him.
Está bueno que perdió, solo se quedaba fuera de la arena volando, ese Cobarde
I have never seen Hbox handle a loss that well. Big kudos to him!
interesting how anytime someone pops off over the top HBOX of all people act like "wtf was that"
i really appreciate hbox having been a part of melee now truly thank you hbox love the passion
this is the only matchup where i vehemently root for hbox lmao
I like them both but I always want leffen to win against hbox. However, seeing anyone overcome a bracket demon is always nice to see
@ItsFlanaman can't even be mad dude, i get it lmao
@@itzmasterz hbox is def not a bracket demon lol. They are dead even in set count. They are rivals
@@daimajin266 you’re right, my mistake. I saw the head to head just now and I thought leffen had lost more in the recent months. Leffen just hates losing to hbox lol. I still want him to win
This is the only match-up where I don't really care who wins. Lol
Ban jiggs ledge shenanigans. Should've been done 10 fucking years ago.
Cry, hbox still lost, and he lost cause of the ledge stuff
It wasn’t even bad this set. Learn to have some patience and attention span.
Hbox w the 98% L-Cancel rate is wild
I can't believe hungrybox grabbed the ledge that's so fucked up
2023 Hbox is so much better than 2019 Hbox.
In some areas like RTC rest and general meta adaptions sure but did you watch how composed, cold and accurate 2019 Juan was.
Bro made Melee look solved and was the guy for a reason and i still think if Covid and Ult stream wouldn't have happend he would be a Top 3 guy till this day.
@@rannynihilius8481 It looked solved because everyone else was worse.
@@PalPlays that's also a part but look at some sets from Hbox and how clean he played.
The dude didn't drop his stuff compared to now where he looks like an actual glass cannon player.
There is a clear difference in aura when he plays now aswell in my opinion.
You know that feeling Zain gave everyone in the last 3 years? That's what i mean.
It was MU experience aswell but i still think he sort of is a lesser player in a lot stuff now than the past most dominant force in the game.
@@rannynihilius8481 I would say there are a few factors as to why Hbox is preforming differently. One would be that he doesn't have Chruch around anymore to help him. I would say Chruch was a big boost in both his moral and analytical skills. Second is that he's focusing more on ultimate/streaming. People can call it johns, but at the end of the day streaming/expanding your brand will net you more money than winning a tourney.
@@NatePhan i think that Slippi made everyone better but a few players that really thrived in normal CRT enviroments like Axe, Plup and him actually worse aswell as your named factors mentioned above.
The air-based footsies Melee is known for
Leffen loses this set outside of Canada
Fox lasers solve like 90% of the matchup for him, its crazy just how overwhelmingly powerful he is vs Puff.
Honestly, I have no idea how HBox hasnt ragequit this game. If I had to fight my worst MU at top level as often as he does I'd go mentally insane.
Cuz up throw rest
You and it seems like all other players in the commentary have no fucking clue, how hard it is, to shoot those sh lasers and sh double lasers in the right timing and to be aware all the time, to not get punished for it, hardest tech/aware moment in the Game. 99% of you are just talking nonsense, without being nearly on that lvl or be in that spot. There was a 1% chance Leffen could won, after hbox has a lead and could camp the whole game on the ledge and you don't have valid options to beat it, the risk reward is insanely bad. Leffen just had luck, that huan decided to approach after 1 minute, what his was his fault, but there was no needing for hin to do that.
@@user-oo8js3sf3q
Buttsecks
Respect to HBox, kept it as classy as ever! Major props
He popped off after every win this set, what do you mean classy?
@@PsychSaenz He popped off once after game 4, what do you mean?
"classy as ever" has to be satire
@@destinydynamites toxic.
he shouldnt have won
Ez W for leffen, not even close.
So glad leffen won.
Gotta hate seeing leffen win.
LEFFEN EZ WIN
Can we all agree now that HBOX is the true GOAT of melee. Mango is a bum. I could accept Mango atleast trying his best and losing, but the sandbagging is unacceptable. He is disrespecting himself and the other competitors when he does this crap. I cant with this guy anymore, WTF.
Love Hbox but Armada is the goat. Always has been.
@@punchingbagplays8715 if only he hadn't retired so soon
Armada the goat sorry
@@punchingbagplays8715 Armada has always been the goat. I wish he still played
Retire to do what? Melee is his only income, he has no job outside of that, no education, a kid to raise, and he's an over 30+ alchoolic what do you want him to do beside playing smash?
Cant belive feffen is allowed to stay in the community after all the drama he brings