Can You Duplicate a Car Key from a Photo?
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2023
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We heard you should never post a picture of your car key. Can someone actually duplicate your key from a photo? We tried to find out, and see what other dangers you should be careful of when you post car stuff on social media.
PSA: we made this video to raise awareness about vulnerabilities with key technologies and left out a few important steps on purpose. Don't steal cars. Don't post a picture of your key.
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makes me wonder if there's a channel that's focused on making internet security/doxxing into content (without actually doxxing someone of course)
with the kind of things people have access to on the web these days, a lot of people should take their online security more seriously
@@FreshApplePie there is a channel like that but he also shows you how to prevent it. I don’t think I can say the name though since that would advertise someone else’s channel on this page.
Do reverse advertising, tell us the channel is awful and we should avoid at all cost to watch that chanel 👀
@@mustangwolverine that's an awful idea, they shouldn't follow through with that soon!
Hey I am also a guy with a jeep altho mines a 1946
“You’d be surprised how many cars don’t have immobilizers”
All the Kia Boy victims just shed a tear there lol
They are upgrading them now. They should’ve came with them built in. Stupid recall
@@LoeNateDogg To be fair, it only happens on the cheapest, lowest level trim cars. The owner could have paid more money for a push start system. Instead, they went for the cheaper and less secure option. Which ended up biting them in the butt.
@@LePedantcharging extra to not get your car stolen is dumb.
Mostly only in the US. Canada and Europe have had laws requiring immobilizers for many years.
@@LePedant To be fair. It really is only an american problem. Even here in Canada it has been law since 2008 that manufacturers have to add immobilizer.
Sight reading keys is totally possible. When I worked for Lowe's back in 2014, we did a re-key service for door locks. I got good enough that I could read 7 out of 10 keys by sight for Schlage and Kwikset.I was only a young18 year-old then, so someone with many more years experience could do it with ease.
i love how this is meant to be a car safety thing but this is quickly turning into an internet safety course too
Made a mistake, got told, educated himself and passed on the knowledge to us. Jeremiah (and Donut), we appreciate you.
the BMW certainly has an immobilizer, he didn't really make a mistake
@@peter0x444 they did cover how rolling codes can be intercepted in a previous video. probably the tesla theft one iirc
@@peter0x444 my nb Miata has an immobilizer, doesn’t mean it’s not easy to steal.
Going to be pretty hard for a random person to use this key from his photo and steal his car.
My dad once parked his car to go to the park. When he got back in it, he realised he got in the wrong car, with his original key! Gotta love Dacia
I've actually had a 2nd nissan altima unlock and lock with my key fob before. It's rare, but it happened to me. The owner of the other altima was surprised as well since we were both there at the same time.
Some older GMs are known for this as well, but only works on the doors.
Dacia🔥🔥🔥
Happened to me with my 98 civic. There were two maroon ones parked within 3 cars of each other, I only realized once I got in and the dash was covered in stuffed animals 😅
I managed to start a Volvo truck from the company I work for with a key for another volvo truck. Yeah not great
Found this channel a few months ago, great stuff - I particularly like that it's not just being silly, but it's explaining how stuff like keys work. Keep it up guys, you do a great job.
Videos are on a new level lately guys. This one was just so well produced , like these are engaging, informative, funny, and somehow have a side plot to go with the information. I usually know most of what gets shared, but the videos are just so good. I love watching.
My dad is one of those mad lads that can sight read a key. Watched him re-pin an ignition lock cylinder for a 98 Grand Prix. Shit was wild.
I've been a locksmith for 18 years now and I'll just say; this stuff honestly isn't that hard to pick up, especially for commonly used keys. And most automotive locksmiths cannot only sight read the key but impression the key as well. In that case, you don't need a picture at all; just knowing what key fits the car. Basically doing what Jerry was doing in the beginning with his 3D printed model but without 3D printer or original key. I generally can impression a key in less then 10 minutes. Get an immobilizer!
My buddy bought a nice camaro and his first mod was a hidden kill switch
just buy a $200 skeleton key for the specific brand and your set to steal any car from that specific brand 😂
solution is get KIA or hyundai.
@@powerfulshammy No such thing, kid, but okay
Thanks to this "how to guide," I'm now the proud owner of my neighbor's '98 Mustang Cobra, my other neighbor's '20 Jeep Trackhawk, and my dad's '70 S10.
I can't wait to see what other cool cars I see around my neighborhood. At this point, it's about the challenge, not the value of the car.
They didn’t make S10’s in 1970. Unless you’re talking about the Chevy LUV which was the precursor to the S10 which came out in 1982.
@@oktain8646 right!
If you're stealing peoples cars then you deserve to be in prison
@@markadkins9800 r/woooosh
"Thieves are lazy". Never underestimate the enemy young Jeremiah
honestly I need more videos 😢 like how am I supposed to start my day without a Donut video
Hands down one of the best episodes written produced and executed on the channel. Well done guys
Someone’s never watched up to speed
Someones trying to steal a car😂
Are you a thief?
Smooth without being slick.
This episode easily had 3 episodes worth of gold in it. Thanks for keeping it in one spot!
Learned something new today! Thanks for the video and bringing this to light @donut 👍
This tutorial helped me out alot! Keep up the great work👍
I love Donut’s “D.A.R.E.” Program approach.
(Teaches you everything you need to know and expects you not to use info for bad)
Haha
A fellow and I restore antique motorcycles and sight-cutting keys has saved us several times. A good chunk of the bikes we fix don't have keys with them, and searching the ignition serial number can normally yied a picture of they key with matching code. Sight-cut a replacement key using picture as reference and voila! No need to wait a week for a replacement, and no need to waste time and effort replacing the ignition system.
Oh yeah, cuz they hope you realize that it's alot of effort, so you just decide it's not worth it, but if you tried it, you'd be $200+ in, so you're more likely to finish the job.
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They dare you to try it
I once had a friend from high school unfriend me on facebook when I told her not to post pictures of her new house key online. A day or 2 prior to that she had posted a zillow link to her new purchase. I work in maintenance field and I told her to bitting of her key just from looking at the picture. And of course it was a cheap lock that they stamp the bitting right into the top of the key. She looked and I was correct. Then she unfriended me for being "creepy".
Huh. "Creepy" when you're just trying to help and make them understand lol
Her fault for not taking that warning better
He forgot to mention that he was telling her this at 3am next to her bed side... after he broke into the house...
And yet they wonder where all the sigma males come from /s.
So then you broke in to her house using the key code, and hid in her bedroom closet waiting to surprise her! And that’s the story of how a good deed turned in to a restraining order, and a felony conviction. 👍
Yea dude, that is creepy as fuck lol. She doesnt know you anymore and is a woman. She probably feels scared AF that a stranger is paying closer attention to her pictures than anyone that she knows. Your intentions seem to be benevolent, but this type of message obviously comes off as creepy. "Normal" people wouldnt know that type of thing, or care to tell it to a stranger. This makes people think you are weird. I used to encounter a similar situation when I was younger, but instead of being told I was a creep, I was told that I am weird lol.
Just dont tell people your extremely detailed analysis about their situations, unless you are already friends. Strangers or acquaintances will never react positively to an extremely detailed breakdown of anything in their life lol.
this is actually one of the best videos for safety ive seen!
Sweet episode!!!!! Thank you Ausssie's!!!!!
Theft of keyless entry cars has become a thing now by picking up the signal of your keys and relaying them it to the car. It's why RFID blockers have become a thing.
I agree but RFID blockers don’t always work. In Ottawa, where I live, theft of Toyota trucks and 4Runners are high because thieves just reset the computer using the OBD2 port to make the RFID tag “0000” (or something, you get the idea) and then just turn the car on with a generic key fob. Ironically, this literally wouldn’t be a problem if they just used keys, but even the base spec 4Runner uses keyless.
That's why it's interesting that now kill switches have come back as a trend weirdly enough.
Some cars have moved to virtual keys on a phone or other NFC communication, or internet based data from a module in the car. While this solves the RFID issue of picking up codes, it gives another big one in that if the car manufacturer doesnt keep issuing security patches and stay updated then you are vulnerable to hackers simply unlocking the door from anywhere in the world. lol.
There will never be a perfectly secure locking system.
@@LordSaliss the benefit of keys is that you can only replicate the one single key, so you could only steal that one car. What car companies have been doing has made it easier for thieves to have one device that can replicate hundreds of thousands of keys to steal any car that the can reprogram.
To be clear, I’m not against what car companies are doing, just that there’s no alternative if you’re in a high-theft area.
Not sure about keyless entry but with the button press remotes you can send that signal over a phone. So i'd be super careful about recording yourself using one. Most cars use a rolling code feature and if you try and use an old one it won't work but it could for SOME cars
Should have approached the lock picking lawyer
i think that in this case DeviantOllam would be a better choice, especially for the later part of the video, but for strictly car key stuff LPL hands down, take a look at video he did with The modern rogue a while back
LPL's Lishi tools are hilariously easy. On my focus i was able to open the door and turn the ignition with it. But it has an immobilizer, so no driving away with that
The problem with getting LPL or DO is that they have created their own tools to do this type of shit, LPL especially
Sure it'd be cool as fuck to see, but most thieves do what's convient and quick usually...it depends on the prize
@@JaggedBird well in this hypothetical situation the thief is clearly targeting a specific car. To the extent where he's willing to put in the surveillance hours to grab the gate and garage door signals.
Odds are if this is going on with your vehicle IRL, they probably show up with a tow truck and some dollies. Print some good-enough repo papers, preferably from a different jurisdiction, so local cops aren't going to be familiar with the exact details, and just tow the thing away. Anyone asking questions is probably turned away easily enough when the fake repo-men state that it's a repo.
This is also how the so-called Audi-gang in my country got their cars. They just used a car ambulance with a crane on it. They painted it to look like our version of AAA, so no one would ask questions about them towing a car.
@@fermitupoupon1754 revolting.
Honestly they're as sneaky as the fucks who rob cars in LA from what I saw in Mark Robst's final glitter bomb video. Shits scary
I HAVE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THIS MY WHOLE LIFE. THANK YOU 🙏
This is one of the best videos i ever saw on youtube, gratz guys
Dudes you guys used the most iconic win song at 4:18 when the door opened. The TV station Globo in Brasil used to play that song every time Ayrton Senna won a Formula 1 race in the late 80's and early 90's. Kuddos to your editorial team!! You guys rock!
Um dos editores é brasileiro, então talvez ele que tenha colocado a música
Respeito pelo Donut +1
Queria saber quem é essa lenda na donut media, ctz q ele foi um dos responsáveis pelo vídeo q eles fizeram aqui no brasil hahaha
Todo brasileiro reconhece essa musica, virou quase um easter egg interno q esse cara fez kkkk
Na hora que tocou eu fiquei CARAAAAAAAALHOOO VAI BRASIL PORRAAAAAA
What blows my mind is how house locks are literally the most easy, almost childish locks to pick. I got a pick set online once and learned on my house, then a buncha friends, then I worked at Home Depot and used to do re-keys and it almost made me mad how unsecure they are.
Locks only keep honest people honest. If someone wants your stuff they'll find a way in.
Locks stop crimes of opportunity. They actually can't do much to someone who has planned and has the proper tools, but there are other security measures you can use. Alarm systems and cameras are like the PAS and immobilizers for cars. That extra bit of security.
Nice job! Altough in the EU every car thats made aftert 1998 October is fitted with a immobiliser chip. Once I wasnt able to turn my own car on because I dropped my keyfob and the immo chip got relocated inside and it wasnt close enough to the ignition to start the car. I could get in the car and put the ignition on, but the sparkplugs were cut, and i could crank the engine all day but without sparks I was stranded until I shaken the immo chip back to the original place, and start the car.
Good info to know guys. Thx4 sharin'. 😁✌️
This was a wake up call be careful what you show online guys sure showoff the ride but not the details
Nolan is such a free loving spirit, it was hilarious to see him angry over a meeting 😂
All the heavy metal keeps him calm and balanced.
😂
Staged
Nolans a little baby
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13hell yeah heavy metal is the way to go it keeps me sane and balanced and weed.
Thanks for the tutorial donut media
This episode is master class
This episode needs a follow up
Super fun and informative vid! That said, I refuse to believe that house in Beverly Hills only cost $3 mil. There are much more modest houses down the street from me in West LA that are twice that price.
I was never a locksmith per se, but back in the '70s and '80s, I worked in dealership parts departments - and I cut an amazing number of keys from code. Sometimes, when a customer would hand me a worn-out fifth-gen copy to duplicate, I'd sight-read the key and use the code puncher to make them a new key instead of chucking up that worn-ass POS in the old manual duplicating cutter. It usually worked. To be fair, I was the only one in the department who could do it at all.
I had a worn out key for my car in 2018. The locksmith was able to guess the og with a program and gave me new nonstripped key. Kinda scary
Nolan is sharp as a tack, man. Love that dude
Thank you for the instroctions. Gonna make some quick money now ^^
One of the best episodes you guys have made, keep it up!
@LockPickingLawyer wouldn't even bother with a photo, let alone a key
Thank you for the instructions
If you can look up the specs for the lock being used (the starting width of an uncut blank, and the depth of each possible wafer cut, and horizontal spacing between them) you can take more accurate direct measurements and not have to do any guesswork like scaling the 3D model in the slicer by hand. You can also compensate for a worn key by "rounding up" each cut to what it should be (if you directly duplicate a worn key you can an identically-worn key that won't work any better)
Thanks for that utterly baseless paragraph of claims made for the sake of your narcissistic thirst for social media attention from strangers.
Your parents must be so proud.
Back in my day, you could just use a shaved down generic key and just wiggle the key in the slot and it can unlock in seconds. Sometimes they'd work in the ignition too. If you had a Honda in the 90's it was just a matter of time before you got jacked.
Yeah, my friend's Miata got stolen with that kind of generic "key" witch was just some simple metal piece :D My friend even demonstrated it himself when we got his car back as the thieves let the tool on the car floor and he could open the door and start the car under a minute with it :D
That's calld a bump key ;)
@2:14 to 2:26 is ALL you need to be aware of/understand !
Thanks Donut !
I love the Flipper Zero! I was an original backer of that beauty!
11:47 of course I don't do this at home...
Why would I steal my own car?😂
Jokes aside, great video donut team❤
Agreed!
Plus we don't have a 3 mil mansion
I love that you guys are doing automotive pen-test videos. People gotta be thinking about this kinda stuff.
Flipper is a pretty dope device, huh? :D
Passive keys and active keys.
The example you gave was a passive key, All modern cars with a "key fob" have a passive key in the key fob that has to be mated to the car. BUT they also have an active chip that used the "remote" battery until it dies. When it does, you have to touch the push button with the key to make the passive key work.
These can be safe, but RFID scanning is a big deal in my location and that's how they are stealing those cars.
Finally, been waiting for this tutorial
I love the way Donuts still keep that Chinese truck they ordered the other day, and the way Jeremi mess with Nolans meeting XD
8:54 See ! Nolan isn't so calm and cheerful in person as we see him in the videos................wink wink !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
I always thought chip keys were made so dealerships can be the only ones to provide keys and charge more. Good to know that there is a security thing involved too
One simple trick that dealerships don't want you to know: you can reprogram your car to match a new chipped key. The process is usually long to discourage thieves, but it's not difficult. Typically something like "leave the key in the ignition for an hour". Each brand is different though.
Best video tutorial for "How to expand your car collection on a budget". Thanks guys.
Funny to see Donut do a better job at beginner Cyber Security content than most dedicated courses lol
OSINT, replicating unencrypted frequencies, RED team operations.... All from an automotive channel.. what a world
Just don't use an airtag..
Use an actual GPS tracking service that won't expose your cars recovery/anti theft devices to the real world
Donut slowly turning into a how to be a criminal channel🤣
Not really. Good locksmiths could already easily do this.
@@DavidJohnson-hg1mz lol what does that have anything to do with what I said? Me- “Damn that car is fast” you- “not really there are f1 cars that can go faster”
@David Johnson thanks, guy who tries to ruin things.
@@LilScotty10 LMAO
You mean they're turning into professional homeowners
If i was a lazy thief... I would definitely be using your video as a template for what may be possible. And then likely steal a car with more time to get away with it :D
Seriously though this video is extremely important for just general personal safety. Glad im now more educated on this topic. Been wanting one of those RF/NFC whatever devices. Can you get those in the states again or are they still like not for sale?
Respect 🔥 My man Nolan showing everybody who is the BOSS 💪🏻
I love how the Chang-Li is such a big part of show , you guys should make a disney face for it so it really comes to life
Chang Li sounds like Chun Lis less skilled sister lol.
Manual transmission is honestly a solid security feature on its own these days. I'd be more worried about them stealing my wheels than the car itself.
i had a manual stolen
Lots of manual cars get stolen. The Acura Integra was the most stolen car of all time and most of those were manual.
Thieves love hearing people say that.
😂 won't save your car.
Always park in your garage with sensor.
How when you can bump start a standard
Thanks for sharing this information! I’m now the proud owner of 2 Miatas 2 Toyota Supras 1 Toyota chaser and 3 Nissan gtr r32s
The flipper zero is so sick. Great stuff love them
Thanks a lot for posting this video. I legitimately would’ve never known stuff like this was possible and easily obtainable if it wasn’t for this video 💯🤝🏽
Is the average car thief going to go through all this work just to steal your car?
If it's a nice enough car, possibly
thieves have much easier ways
this really is not that much work
If they want to be sneaky
2 types of cars they like to steal
1 a car to commit crime with
2 a car they can take apart to sell those parts.
I used to have a Cavalier SRi you could unlock and start with anything from a 5pence piece to a tea spoon and pretty much anything inbetween.
My 2018 Hyundai Sonata has been stolen 4 times since October , keep up the theft how to’s 🔥
Great episode! I was expecting a collab with the Lockpicking Lawyer 😛
I'd love to see a Lock picking Lawyer colab! That'd be awesome. 😁
@@JCSolis_Lit They already did, but I'm disappointed to not see him in the comments.
Turning off a TV with a Flipper reminds me of simply using a programmable remote. I remember one time I brought one to school, then found I could turn off random TVs with it.
There are similar radio frequency emulators to the one in the video that work on some key immobilizers. even the rolling code ones where the code changes every time.
Great video, and a proper nightmare for that mansion owner given that all of the security camera angles are now all on the internet.
Late 80s early 90s is when this technology dawned and my buddy Padraig had a watch with this code scanner built in...think TV remote scanning....and we'd go to our local sports bar 8:30 pm of a Friday or Saturday and phuck with the patrons Manchester united is just about to score and we'd change the channel to American wrestling WWF. at the time , he could scanthe frequency and lock in channels to his watch and drive people crazy with the touch of a button, there were multiple TVs with different sports on and many different interested parties......we'd phuk with them all throughout the night.......I've never laughed more.... RIP Padraig I love you and miss you....Cancer is a curse.
the important thing to remember is" always park next to a more desirable car.
Idk who does your graphics but pay them more. They add sooo much to videos like this
Jeremiah: “Im pretty sure I’m outside of Jimmy’s house”…
You better be sure or you’re committing an actual crime
Yall should make a video of yall interviewing people at street take overs or sum😊
Nice to hear "Tema da Vitória" at 4:19
R.I.P. Senna
For any one wondering the thing they used to copy the signals is called a flipper zero and can be bought off the internet
The fact that someone needs to make a video for this is absurd. How don't people realize it's a security risk on their own!? nevertheless thank you Donut for enlightening everyone
When you were talking about the ignition and door lock getting worn out so the key didn’t need to be perfect, all I could think of is that video of the guy in the suburb outback I think it was who accidentally stole someone’s car because he got in the wrong one, but he had the keys and since it was the same model as the one he was supposed to get in, it worked
Holy hell. Editing from 7:40-8:26 was fucking amazing. I took a few passes to appreciate.
As a person with a key that has the physical key hidden away inside the key fob, I see this as an absolute win!🏆🏆🏆
You should have just parked the car in public, posted the key online and made it a 'Steal My Miata Fan Challenge'
bro u tryna get a free miata?
Thanks for the tutorial! Time to go do some bad stuff.
I started my friend toyota pickup (that I bought), my friend moved to his father 300 km away, he sent me a picture of the key with a penny for measure reference, and 3d printed it and moved the truck in the garage !
I feel like the main problem is that you gotta have some crazy people in your circle if they would take the time to do this level of stalking and harmful theft.
Imagine going through with all this, just to show up and my cars on jack stands with no motor or interior
A friend of mine found a random key on the ground about 3 hours away from where he lived, he tested it for fun and it worked on the driver door but not the ignition
Thanks for another tutorial
Instructions too clear, I now own 14 NA miatas
The lock picking lawyer: i don’t need keys
Pretty sure hes gonna use another miata to unlock a miata
Thanks :D I always wanted the Money Pit Miata!
You can get hand held key cutters with set depths for the brand or key type. Then you can just cut the depth to match the key agter you buy a few blanks online.
Nolan getting angry over a meeting was so hilarious
Yup, a couple of years ago I sent a pic of my key to some guy on eBay and he sent me a perfectly working key that I programmed to my car myself, $50 for the key, $24 for a key programmer - $160 or so cheaper than BMW wanted to charge for it
Oh
And now he has your address and a copy of your car key 😂
When I was young all old Holden keys used to work on any car so we used to steal spare tyres from boots for burnouts, I had welded my diff and we would go do burnouts everywhere lol
Would love to have received my stocky order from the initial drop of these from Kickstarter. Thanks for the perpetual wait and lack of response.
Jeremiah, thieves everywhere thank you
Thank you, I'm really jealous of my neighbors car that has been bothering me for a while, and I told him to post a full picture of it, printed it and got the car successfully
to be honest, you don't need to enhance it
you can just measure pixels between points, and find the cut length to scale from the rest
ie, top cut is 14 pixels wide, next is 10 pixels wide,
so it's a 7 cut and then a 5 cut for example
edit: I watched past the first part and you've said exactly what i meant. Nice one
You guys just gave me... the best idea!
Great now I have this to keep me awake at night. Thanks Donut!😭🤣
3d printer do be getting people's houses unlocked
😂 fax
You can unlock the average house lock with scissors and an old credit card
@@KaitouKaiju nice to know, thats kinda funny
the fact that they have worked so hard for that explosive effect to make it realistic enough