They know, they just don't care. Most of these kids have zero empathy or compassion. They aren't able to think of anyone but themselves. My Hyundai was broken into last night. They destroyed the ignition system and tore up the dash. They weren't able to start the car. But now I can't drive.
Sorry to hear it! I know how violating it feels when someone so much as touches your stuff, let alone steals it. Let's not just be victims, though. Let's scream as loud as we can that we're not taking this on the cheek. Let's join the class action suit.
This have caused me so much stress and almost cost me my job. I cried for an entire week straight. I honestly cried myself out of tears and paying all the cost out of pocket. It’s messed up because my insurance dropped me and I am still paying on the car. I was 5 days away from getting my recall fixed because it was so booked out. I literally felt dead and never understood the importance of how important a car is. I don’t wish nothing but lessons on those people for causing so much distress. I worked so hard to get out of being homeless for 5 years to fall back on the ground like that.
I had to pay $1200 out of pocket to fix just the window on my car and the ignition is still damaged. After I pay my Hyundai off i'm done with cars and getting me a motorcycle.
@@irulan9161 Yeah I do have it, but I pay $550 a month and my deductible is already at $1,000. It's only high because of an accident from 2022 that wasn't even my fault.
@@DaTrillion just buy a Toyota or Honda, im looking at new Corollas. They all have immobilizers standard. Hyundai and Kia both lost me as a customer. I drive a 2013 Hyundai Accent and I have to be diligent where I park it. Its so annoying.
My buddy had his Kia broken into. Ignition all torn apart but they didn't steal it. We think they got to that point, maybe even got it started, but then realized it was a stick and they didn't know how to drive it lol.
As other people have stated, lock cylinders have always been able to be removed by pressing a button. The difference is every other car requires the lock cylinder to be turned with a key before the button will press in. I can't believe a world wide company would let this happen.
Not to mention the security issues in older vehicles which prompted the smart keys to be designed had metal steering column components so they were far more difficult to overcome with brute force. This design is an embarrassment to Kia and they deserve everything that's happened.
Cars of yester year also had their cylinder assemblies in metal brackets not plastic. Which could still be broken but required more effort to do. Still nothing compared to old fords with the steal me junction (solenoid) in the engine bay and the hood without an interior latch.
The sad thing is that people work hard to buy their vehicles. On top of that they use their cars to get to work. If the car is paid off and you no longer have theft insurance you are stuck. Thieves don't consider the devastating consequences their actions cause. Car theft convictions need to be harsher and have minimum mandatory sentences even for first time offenders.
People seem to think just because it has 4 wheels that it must be reliable. Kia and Hyundai have proven that. Any part that you buy for it is no better than what came off of it. The vehicles are so thrashed that parts in a wrecking yard aren’t of any value.. engines that are full of metal shavings, gummed up because they have never had the oil changed, etc.. this is why wrecking yards don’t want the liability and stuff whole Korean cars straight into the crusher. You will never see a Korean car in a wrecking yard that’s been mined of parts- there is no value in them.
Some people don’t buy vehicles because of a really small flaw. They did there research and understood they were not going to like that specific car…. If you left a car dealership talk you out of 25 - 40k for a car I’m not surprised you didn’t do research on the vehicle they sold you non the less
@@abrahamperez8565 MOST consumers have terrible locks even on their homes (which both cost more and house family, which is arguably more important). I was picking house locks since diapers... Now with $20 you can buy a bumpgun and pretty much anyone is getting into your house in just a few seconds. If you watch LPL (Lock Picking Lawyer), he goes over showing several bump keys that open all Ford models, all Volkswagen group models, etc. Also thanks to Lichi tools you can not only pick but decode (to properly make a key to come back later) and get almost any car with ease. I've also CAD designed my own key based on a photo and traced it then 3d printed it. I don't think you understand how all locks are literally child's play (there is one safe I was never able to crack, but even as a child my grandfather for Christmas bought me a mechanics stethoscope so I could hear tumblers). I wasn't that much into lock picking, but it came super useful when my dad would forget the keys to a lock and driving a tractor back a few miles would take an hour, and picking was faster. I still to this day cannot open a combination lock if I know the numbers, but I can do it behind my back in a few seconds (those are super easy to pick, but its just another example of the illusion of security)
As a former car thief I have to say, though, that this ignition system's design is way too easy to exploit. Normally & WAAAY back in the day I needed a minimum of 3 tools PLUS drill bits to break into a car's ignition system, & that's just the break-in. Once I'm in & depending on the make & model I could have to spend as much as 4-5 minutes starting the car. These Kia Boys are exploiting a ridiculously hackable ignition system that was built this way to save the manufacturer money. P.S. take it from a former player in this game that almost nothing beats The Club, particularly The Club system that goes over the accelerator pedal! Back in the day if I saw either of those things, I walked. They are defeatable, yes, but not by a street car thief. You need frikkin' Jaws Of Life to pry one of those. I never heard of anyone who could successfully pry a Club off of a completely circular steering wheel without cutting the wheel, which takes a lot of time.
I was dying at the Gurty part. It's unfortunate for anyone to get their car stolen but the mustard color kia soul made it a little easier to laugh about
Funnily enough i just got a letter from KIA corporate last week saying that due to a class action suit they are offering free steering wheel clubs to all KIA owners because of this. And instead of taking the blame for sub-par design they blamed it on: "risky social media "challenges" that encourage young people to break-in and steal certain Kia vehicles."
They don't work They can be taken off in less than 30 seconds. All you do is hacksaw the steering wheel right next to the club lock pull the club off But they already know alarm with a immobilizer to the fuel pump At the end of the day it's the insurance companies that pay then they pass the cost onto the consumer
I think the blame should go both ways. If people weren't stealing because of what they saw on socially media, this wouldn't be happening (as much) as well as if Hyundai Kia put in mobilizers this also wouldn't be happening. However they 100% should be taking the blame regardless.
@@JamarD421 Yeah, of course both parties are to blame. I just thought it was amusing that after a shortcoming in their design was discovered and exploited; instead of offering to remedy their short-sighted design choice with an immobilizer, they instead just offered a bandaid solution that can also be easily bypassed with a pair of bolt-cutters.
I'm surprised this is just now a thing. My grandfather owned a junk yard and taught how to hot wire (threatened to hang me by my toes if I ever did it outside the yard) when I was 10. KIA were my favorite because they were so easy 15 years later nothings changed.
Is it though? Don't get me wrong, I understand they they are super-douches for squeezing buggers out of Lincolns nose.... But there is no regulation stating that vehicles have to have passive anti-theft immobilizers. It would be totally different if someone could argue in court that the car was represented has having advanced anti-theft systems, then it would be their screw up.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333 sounds like it needs to be legislated like it is in canada. Insurance companies are taking note of these issues too, so rates for "cheap" kias could soon become outrageous.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333 I mean yeah, they should, look at it this way, TikTok is a big app, this is getting traction, people are going to start getting scared, they're going to be looking for solutions, find out that Kia is charging to fix the problem unlike the other brands, people can't do shit about so Kia wins... Except people are going to go to the internet and are going to start complaining, other people start learning about this stuff and then boom, Kia gets a really bad reputation, which in the long run will hurt sales and also like the guy before me said, it will make insurance companies to increase their rates on Kia cars just to be safe, which will also hurt sales because people would not pay outrageous prices for a cheap car. That's the reason why car brands always make recall as soon as a problem gets found with any of their models it can hurt sales later.
@@dkrampage2933 I don't disagree, and I'm sure Kia Motors of America sees it that way as well. Doubt Korea sees it like that though. And they ultimately call the shots. The only reason I don't totally agree with you is that recalls aren't some arbritrary thing that manufacturers do. NHTSA tells the OEM that they are out of compliance with emissions, safety, or other regulation. If it is "Volutary", that means the OEM went to NHTSA and said "Hey, we aren't compliant and we are recalling" and NHTSA said "Yeah, you are right, proceed". Because of this, if they were to do something free of charge, it would be some sort of voluntary campaign that they initiate, manage, and report on, themselves. Yes, I know, i'm being picky with words. But in my line of work for another OEM, the "R" word is taken very seriously.
@@lupusdeum3894 In the US new model cars have the option to switch between MP/H and KM/H, does Canada not have cars with that option?? I'd assume they would depending on the manufacturer, but I don't live in Canada, so was curious based on your comment.
I did the research on my own Kia. The lock cylinder is contained inside of a plastic housing. So, all you need is a hammer and punch to smash the lock out. And the USB-A connector just happens to fit over the shaft protruding from the actual ignition switch. A needle nose pliers will turn it as well. It's basically just the same brute force method to steal vehicles that was popular in the 1970s and 1980s.
Most of the work is removing the lock cylinder. Once you’re past that point how you turn the ignition switch is up to you. The news reports made it sound like all you need is a usb cable.
Crazy... I’m an appraiser for an insurance company and we literally just had a meeting two days ago letting us know to expect a sharp rise in claims involving stolen Kia’s/Hyundai’s. We were not aware about the “Kia Boys” challenge though. *Edit* There are so many appraisers per insurance company and so many different insurance companies out there that not one single insurance company is taking the entire brunt of this trend so yeah. When you consider how many claims get submitted per day for a ton of different types of reasons, it takes a lot for things like this to start making a dent. However that doesn’t mean we’re just now seeing these claims. Oh we’ve been seeing them. We just didn’t know why these vehicles were suddenly being targeted besides the fact that they’re easy to steal. I mean, if they’re that easy to steal then why has this only been going on for a few months and not years? Thanks to Donut, now I know the “why” side of it. Hard to follow car trends on TikTok when you don’t have TikTok I guess.
stealing someones car or phone should put it as a FAR higher then just that items value as a car is often someones lifeline and a phone contains all the data and personal stuff of a person stealing these should be FAR more hefty crimes
Why report this video? There is no violation of law or youtube guidelines. The police even if you were 100% commited and have backup they wouldnt help you.
When I heard about this, I thought the USB thing was about hooking the car up to a phone with some app people found online that targets Kia, I didn't think it was using it as a "key"!
Almost same here. I thought they had found a way to jump the circuit using the USB cable from the USB charger port to the ignition switch. Far be it from me to actually go watch a video and find out. Don't own one. Don't want one. DGAF
Too bad you couldn't say anything about it or you'd be fired... Look at Boeings airplane manager safety guy or whoever tf he was... Found dead in his car smh
I'm here because this happened to me today as well! Got a Kia Soul as a grad present a few years ago. My parents taught me a lot of street smarts, so I made sure the car was locked, windows up, no keys in it, nothing valuable in it either. And yet, the thieves were able to steal it and drive it away with ease. Fortunately, some very kind and friendly cops helped me out, but it sucks to know my car was so vulnerable to this. I guess you never really think it can happen to you, until it does.
My Kia soul plus (2018) was my first new car I ever bought by myself.. it was stolen Friday.. leaving me and my 2 kids stranded all weekend.. made me miss two days of work- half a paycheck.. even w full coverage insurance.. I had to pay $175 for the tow.. wait 3 days for a rental due to being the busiest time of year for rentals in Vermont due to foliage.. finally got it today h went to see my car.. it’s wrecked basically.. all scratched and coming apart in places.. they broke my sunglasses just because.. stole my 5 years old metal baseball bat.. the one thing he cared about when he learned mommy’s car was stolen.. I’m a struggling mom and this crippled me even more.. months before Xmas.. I’m so defeated.. no matter how hard I work, how hard I try.. how good of a person I am.. I have the worst luck.. car thefts don’t happen where I live.. they do now all the sudden cuz the moron kids can’t seem to use their brains or think for themselves.. they follow trends because that’s all the know how to do is follow. Hope the tide pod challenge comes back quick.
i’m from milwuakee, y’all don’t understand how often this happens. another reason why they do it is because if they do get caught, they only get charged with a misdemeanor and get out of jail like a few days later. keep in mind these are kids as young as 14 to grown adults. i recommend watching the tommy g documentary on the kia boys for more information
@@xypper7527 1. hes not wrong, once a criminal is usually always a criminal, no use for scum like that in our society. 2. Stand your ground is a thing in the states, where a personal vehicle counts as property. Nothing wrong here
this is why i listen to scotty. he was right. KIA hyundai just DONT care about customers. they steal every penny and lie. thire engines are blowing up, transmission fail, catching fire while parking about burndown house. now this?
Again, these are the models that sell for like 12k brand new. Most Models have push to start or the Kia smart key with immobilizer. I think these people should have known what they were getting into buying the cheapest models in America. My Kia has windows break sensors and push to start
@@pkoya341 I had an old Renault Symbol, Colombian spec and all it had a key with immobilizer. Even that thing had it. And it was dirt cheap. Maybe it had it because it the Colombian spec… still was dirt cheap and 2005. Inexcusable.
As far as I know Hyundai and Kia both have immobilizers in Europe since it's mandatory all the way from 1998. It's crazy they cheap out by not factory fitting them in the US.
Yup that was certainly a DGAF fix. Heres A kit for $170 + labor to install for something you should have had built into the cars in the first place. All To save like $25 in the manufacturing process.
Recall for what? Did they represent that the vehicle had an immobilizer? Or are we going full Karen and stating the vehicle should be recalled because you don't like something about it. Sorry, I get that Hyundai/Kia was EXCESSIVELY cheap here, and they suck for it. But there is no defect, no non-compliance, and to my knowledge, no misrepresentation.
Can confirm. My kia was stolen about a month ago. Never found. My insurance isn’t the best so they pretty much paid out kia for me and now I’m struggling to get another car. Insurance seems to think this is how it was stolen since my make and model fell under the vulnerable ones.
@Paul had an 01 camry, left the window open at one point for hours when I was at work, luckily no one did anything lmao. Doubt anyone want to steal a camry.
@Transitive Wisdom You realize that newer Kias and Hyundai's are co-designed by the former head of research and technology at BMW's M division, right? The Kia Stinger GT is basically an M3, and all the Hyundai N cars are basically other BMW models, minus all the usual BMW BS.
@@Caffeinated-DaVinci just cause one guy that used to work at bmw now works at hyundai doesn't mean their cars are "basically" bmws now haha. they are still trash boxes
2015-2021 is such a long range of cars and still so new. Someone probably saved up to buy their brand new Kia last year just to now have it be looked at as a joy ride.
My Hyundai Accent was just stolen the other day in San Diego. Just bought it two weeks ago. Hadn’t even made my first monthly payment and now it’s someone’s joy ride. FML
My Kia was stolen in Orlando 2 feet away from my window beween 3 am and 6 am. my doctor documents were in my car. I have to bother my family 2 towns over to help me out. I moved out of Orlando yesterday. i'm looking at cars now and can't afford down payment.
Glad you're on the normal side of the anti Tik-Tok gang. Yeah, this is the incompetence of lawmakers that they let it slide, Trump could've sent Tik-Tok to the Gulags. Manipulation, Inciting a Crime, Gross Negligence, and Fruad. Crimes that this mistake deserves to be served cold, BTW I have a peach sherbert ice cream and a teacup to drink the narcissistic teens tears if this app is deleted from existence. IM STILL WAITING 😈
A All in one easy data collection app for the chinese. Everyone knows it and nobody cares. The app uploads a complete tracking profile for their use. Locations you went, times spent, what you bought, apps used, websites visited, etc. It's really fckd up.
I live in a very small Arizona town. I just received a letter from Kia about this challenge. I had heard of it about a year ago. Kias letter was offering me a free steering lock device. I ordered it, and a few days later I got a "club" steering wheel lock. Ha! Hilarious! Great "fix" Kia.
@@angelgjr1999 when u can buy a brand new car for under $10k what do u expect. Most push button vehicles don't have steering wheel locks if u haven't noticed. Steering wheel locks are mostly mechanical so if u only have a push button they generally never lock the steering shaft.
@@angelgjr1999 i dont know the specifics of these cars, but he did remove the entire lock in the video, if you do you usually dont have a steering lock afterwards
My car would be really easy to steal, but the knuckleheads who steal cars for TikTok clout probably wouldn’t be able to shift it. I’ve had to break into my car before when I locked my keys in the car at work like a dumbass, and it only took a minute and an unfolded coat hanger. Oh yeah, and my car is from 2005
@@Fhwgads11 Same for mine, except its even harder to shift than your 2005, mine is a 67 with a 3sp column shift manual with loose bushings, go ahead and get those linkages binded while going from 1st to 2nd gear lmao !
As someone from Milwaukee, where this has been a thing for *years,* I'm so glad this is getting more coverage because it's BAD. I've had people I know have their cars stolen 3+ times.
Give them this tip: When Parking up for the night pop the hood and pull the fuse for the fuel pump and put it in your house somewhere til you need to drive next👍 Cant go anywhere without fuel, and I doubt if the car wont start that theyre gonna go trying to fix it for you lol. Before you set off again, pop it back in and off you go, its like a 30 seconds job. Used to do it with my motorcycle, it got stolen twice and each time it was literally around the corner from my house where they dumped it cos they wheel it away silently somewhere they can start it, only they couldnt start it! So would just abandon it. I Found it kinda funny tbf
So here’s the immediate engineering issues I see. First issue: The lock body housing isn’t metal. Second issue: The lock cylinder release pin ***SHOULD NOT*** allow release of the cylinder until the proper matching key in inserted. That definitely does NOT meet motor vehicle regulations.
Excellent Observation. As Locksmith I watched and said impossible as the pin does not depress unless the key is turned to the acc position. They did it for likes. but cant fool a lock tech
Can confirm. Got my ride nabbed yesterday. Went out to go visit a friend, realized my car wasn't there. I got camera footage of it, and I got a police report filed. But my God. Never again is this company gonna get my cash, never again.
@@nemesiszz If you have "full coverage". If you don't, they only cover the other person's vehicle if you are in an accident and it's your fault. Theft is not covered if you have a "limited liability" policy. It is the cheapest insurance, so many people select to get that policy.
Dang, thanks for letting consumers know. I have never heard this! and thanks for showing the mechanical differences between - the visual really helped me understand the issue.
What ultimately sucks is that it doesn’t matter if people install aftermarket security devices. These vehicles are being targeted, which means they’re going to get broken into no matter what. Whether or not they can actually end up taking the vehicle on a joyride ultimately, it just means you no longer want a Kia or Hyundai.
Thieves often just steal what's most convenient. If your car is harder to steal than one down the block then yeah they'll still steal something but it won't be yours, and at the end of the day that's all you can do as an owner.
I think Kia and Hyundai receive too much unnecessary hate. Want a reliable, no frills a to b car? They are your answer. 10 year warranty from factory is more than anyone gives, and I’ve had mine for multiple years with no issues other than regular oil changes etc. Not to mention at the fraction of a price of its competitors. Sure, it’s not exciting. But as a daily to get you to where you want to go reliably? It’s perfect. Ignore the fact that I just traded it in for a truck, that’s a different story 😂
@@lJADU Agreed, both my and my wife drive a Hyundai. She drives a 2007 and I have a 2012. We both had zero issues and will buy another when it dies. I live in an area that getting car stolen is unlikely, but I did install an aftermarket alarm that interrupts the starter circuit when armed. I prefer having no immobilizer, spare keys cost $4 vs $50, I don't have to install a bypass kit with the alarm, and one less thing that can malfunction.
I had my car stolen today. I don't know if I'll ever get it back and now I don't know what I'm going to do since I can't afford another car right now. I really wish I had my car back. I worked hard to save up that money and they just don't care. I hope no one else experiences this.
My buddy's wife's suv got broken into. They never got the car started but they trashed the steering column and ignition cylinder anyway. It sucks and they were without their car for over a week while the dealership and the insurance company got it working again. All that said, that video of Gurty flying over a hill was fucking gold.
I have a Kia and was super worried about getting mine stolen because car thefts aren’t uncommon where I live, so I bought a steering wheel lock that clicks into by seatbelt. SUPER convenient, and I’m pretty sure it had already deterred a potential thief! I had my window shattered a week ago but my car is still here! Def recommend for anyone else nervous about losing their car Edit: Just want to give an update cause somehow people are still seeing my 9 month old comment…yeah my car got stolen. Like a couple months after making this comment. Clipped my seatbelt buckle right off and drove off, ended up totaling the car. Ended up being a blessing in disguise though since my insurance ended up giving me WAY more than what my car was actually worth so I could afford a nicer car. So long story short your Kia will never be safe. Get rid of the damned thing
Pop your hood and take your starter relay out when you're not using it. Without the relay, it won't even start with the key plus it's free where a lock is not.
You guys should do a story on how 12v shops actually go about doing things to PROPERLY add aftermarket security to a vehicle. And even over and above the factory security, and on top of transponder chipped vehicles. A reputible 12v specialty shop that does audio remote starts security etc is an excellent place to learn about these things and how it's done when done right
I remember when the Immobilizer laws were coming in in Canada. A lot of people were upset by them because they thought it was Government over reach and wasn't needed. The insurance companies paid for the immobilizers mind you, but a good portion at the beginning weren't happy, especially as owners of certain models (in my Province atleast) wouldn't be able to renew their insurance until they agreed to have the immobilizer installed.
Well, If the law was applied only for new cars from that era I can agree. But yes, forcing you to install an immobilizer in order to have insurance sounds like a bit too much
Isn't that the general consensus these days when the government introduces something to help people? And when it works everyone who was against it either goes quite or jumps on the bandwagon, sad to see people think they are important enough to assume the government wants to control them.
I am a locksmith in South Africa, the vehicles here also has the immobilizing key. But on those kia and hyundai models we dont have plastic ignitions, ours are metal. So jamming a screwdriver and wrenching it around will take tou waaaay longer, and ours needs the key to turn to Acc ( the first click) before that little pin can be pressed in to remove the ignition barrel. Love the show btw
I'm South African too an my wife has a 2015 soul (like Gerty). Interestingly my wife's given name is Gertruida too which makes this even funnier. Anyway... When I saw this video I also suspected that our Korean imports are probably Euro spec, given what a key replacement on these costs!
It makes sense that they wouldn't skimp on security in a market where car jacking is so common --- at least, from what I've heard. Or course, you'd think they'd do the same for Chicago. 🤷🏻 Maybe South Africa has stronger laws in place than the US.
@@jpaugh64 When cars are (hi)jacked over here, they do it while you are in the car. In other words, they take the keys. In some ways, the higher number of hijackings is caused by the security inherent in the vehicle. Because it is difficult to steal them, it becomes easier to hijack them. Thankfully KIA and Hyundai cars are not really popular for hijacking, at least less popular. The most popular hijack targets are still the popular Toyotas, the VW Polo, and increasingly the Ford Ranger. Also, 3-series BMW and larger Audi's are popular options for later use in cash in transit robberies. I think the reason we have the better lock is simply because South Africa has always had a preference for the Euro spec cars, and many of our models are imported from Korea (some models are built in Benoni, in the Gauteng province). That means we get the Korean-built cars, rather than the US-built ones. It probably makes more financial sense that way. This lock issue is very much an American issue 🙂 To give an example of where the reverse happens. The Suzuki Swift, sold in South Africa, is built in India by Maruti. The same car, sold in Europe, is built in Hungary. Same car, but it means the Europeans get a slightly better put-together option.
Welcome to earth there are people who work for what they have and then there's those who steal and kill for it surprised your just now finding this out both sides will always exist and the thief will kill you for YOUR stuff
Ya, stealing from every day, lower/middle-class people is really scummy. If they were stealing from a dealers lot, I really wouldn't care. You're a POS if you steal from people that are struggling every day just to get by.
This totally happened with my 2000 Dodge Intrepid! Exact same thing! When they finally found it the ignition cylinder was sitting in the seat. Thankfully the insurance had paid me before they found it, so I was able to get a new to me car.
My wife and I were in the hospital for a kidney swap ,when we came home we noticed our kia soul had been stolen. She was so disappointed and crying, the car was recovered . They destroyed it. If I would have been home, it would have been a bad day for them.
The Terminator movies probably have one of the most accurate hot wiring sequence in an action movie because he rips off the steering column cover instead of just having random wires come out of nowhere
@@ScootsMcPoot yeah, but nobody buys ex usa cars in Canada, sure some Canadian market cars are built in the states, but by law they have diffrent features enabled in order to be sold in a civilized country, like daytime running lights and immobolizers
@@underadesk bro my american sold and made car has daytime lights. And there are alot of American cars in canada. I live on the border, and i ve even crossed to buy vehicles to bring back. Canada and usa have a deal, you can drive with either registration and license in either country. And you say civilized eh? if Canada is so great why is 90% of your population crammed on the border with the Usa
@@ScootsMcPoot you can drive with either registration and license in either country, but that doesn't mean you can register an US Spec car in canada if its missing features that a car that is registered in canada needs to have, importing a car from the US into canada that doesn't meet canadian specifications isn't possible without making it meet the specifications, for instance current year cars have to have an electronic immobiliser and a metric speedometer, if the car that was imported doesn't have those it has to be modified to have them, and if it can't be modified to have them then it can't be registered in canada.
Jokes aside, I feel really bad for the owner of Gertrude. Seems like she really loved her car, unlike some “car guys” who drives expensive cars and treat them like shit.
This is actually really cool from a case study perspective. While it sucks that this happened, it's almost like a glitch or exploitation of a video game. It's a bypass that shouldn't have ever happened (manufacturers not expecting someone to exploit it), but someone figured it out and we get to be a part of witnessing it.
You are absolutely right it! It took over a decade for this to be a thing. It was probably circulating in the underground market for a while but once someone posted a video of it, it spred like wild fire
Not only that, but it really is easy enough to do on your own. Kinda fun being both a car thief AND the guy warning people how easy their car is to steal
More like a lack of morals in modern society. People are now looking to take things because of ease or not caring about the effects it has on others, or the consequences they may face if caught. Carjackings in general are up in many places by a large margin. If they cant do a hack on a vehicle, they are doing it by gunpoint too.
here in Brazil it's pretty common for people to install separate security features in their car, often called "secrets", like a button that you have to press after you turn the car on, otherwise it cuts the fuel pump power, they're usually cheap and easy to install and prevent thieves from driving much further than a couple meters
I have something similar but it's controlled with an electric key that I have to press on a hidden contact then you have 15 seconds to turn on with the main key. If you don't do it and go directly for ignition the engine cranks but doesn't turn on at all. I think it works by closing a valve before or after the fuel pump because when operated it makes a high bzzzzz noise from under the car near the fuel tank area. I too would like to know better how it works since previous owner installed the fact is that you can hear the noise only when it's operated but it doesn't make any "closing" noise as you would expect when the car is turned off or if you let the 15 seconds expire in that case you have to press it again to hear again the unlocking sound...
Those are called kill switches. Those can be installed by anyone. Battery, fuel pump, ignition, relays. Adding a series of kill switches & wired in a specific sequence or combinations to allow & stop current to battery, fuel pump, fuel relay, multi fuse, starter, alternator makes it harder to even look at.
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It’s honestly a surprise they haven’t figured out how to steal homes off the foundation. Got my A/C wrecked by some crackhead who tried pulling out my window.
i remember back when i was a kid in the 90's you could open up any hatchback rear door on any Hyunday Pony, with a screwdriver or even a butter knife, it would literally take 2 seconds... You still needed to know how to hotwire a car in order to steal it, but still, a lot of thieves would just pop up the back and steal whats in the car. Its crazy that kids are doing this for fun, meanwhile you get caught stealing a car its a serious felony..
My mom used to always say "The cheap will almost always be more expensive in the long run". If Kia loses in court imagine how much money they would have saved if they just did it right from the get go! Plus Kia's reputation has taken a huge hit now as well.
@@JinteiModding exactly mega corps dont give a fuck, they would rather spend big money forecasting a potential liability fallout cost to run a minimum viable product if it saves them money in the long run
I'm surprised this is just now happening. I've been installing remote starts on Kia/Hyundai for the last 15 years and they have never used transponders in their key-turn start vehicles
Someone stole my mom’s Kia two days ago messed up part is she is the only one that drives in her house because my brother and sister who have disabilities can’t. They took it right outside of her work which is a nursing home so someone stole from a person who probably takes care of your grandma
Well hopefully they crash it and get messed up for life or just ya know 💀, and then have the car be covered by insurance or miraculously have it returned lol
most older cars or even some bikes that doesnt have a immobilizer can be start like this or with just a screwdriver..also some older hondas can be started with toyota keys...LOL. Its just these kias are a lot newer that shouldve been already protected with newer tech like other brands...like they learned their lesson from the past...lol
My daughter's 2012 Elantra was stolen last week in the hell hole of Rochester, NY. Insurance gave us way more than the car was worth, we took the money and ran away from Hyundai. She wasn't planning on buying a car but in the end, it worked out. She got a nice Mazda CX-5 and has just a small payment. Thank God the insurance covered the car.
That response from Kia is giving me chaebol vibes. Basically they're doing the bare minimum and blaming criminals when in turn they're robbing their customers by not installing a fool proof system
As someone who lives with a Kia Soul that gave me lifts to kindergarten and now high school with the exact same VIN, I grew to love that crouched-hamster-looking box a lot. I'm fortunate to be in an area where the Kia Boys don't seem to attack often, but I do hope to upgrade Little Silver's safety in any way I can soon after hearing this.
The best thing you can do is get a Viper alarm system installed because it will have shock sensors that can sense when a window is smashed and on top of that it blocks any attempts to start it so you CANNOT start the car until you disarm it with the key fob or use the back up method if your key fob fails. It can be difficult to bypass.
@@r0b3rt_959 Won't help you. That's for carjacking. The vast vast majority of car thieves only strike unattended cars. If they get caught carjacking that goes from 5-10 years in prison to 20-40.
Dude even my old 2003 pt cruiser had a better key system. I remember my cylinder breaking where it connected to the ignition switch. To fix it you needed to replace the steering column in its entirety. I had to use the key to disengage the shifter and steering lock, and use a flathead to turn the ignition switch.
Hi, just stopping by to say thanks for laughing at my (bland) plight. My Sportage was stolen twice between June 26th and August 25th. I'd purchased it less than two years ago; it was the first new car I have ever purchased, and will likely be the last, since I am now in debt from multiple insurance deductibles and property loss. Thanks again! Cheers.
On all mk3 vw I put a fuel pump switch hidden, deleted the rear trunk opener. Pretty much theft proof Edit: for anyone wondering why not a kill switch, when your car is straight piped it allows your car to start and idle but not drive, which allows you to step out and see what’s going on 😂
The first person to figure this out didn't use it with any malicious intent. (Since this has been a problem for over 15 years) The kids that learned from them did. At the end of the day it's teen boys doing what they have always done; Destroy boundaries while being reckless; the only problem I see is that their methods to do so have become more expensive and dangerous .
Here in Australia, a certain series of Holden Commodores were very easy to steal, so someone created a product called Full Metal Jacket that encased the ignition switch.
The old VN jacket ? My dad had a 5.0 clubby and I remember him being super proud in like maybe 2000? For getting it installed to stop people stealing them ahaha.
Yeah, a friend's VL was stolen by smashing the cylinder off to achieve a similar result as this video. The difference is that even Holden, who the bourgeois class think to be a low brow brand for unsophisticated bogans, have had smart keys for ~25years now :/ While it's not necessarily illegal that Kia did this, it was a silly move. They made a bad decision based on cost and now its affecting their customers en-mass!
They used to be sold in Brazil (imported from Australia) rebadged as "Chevrolet Omega" from 1998 until 2012 - no V8, V6 only. I miss these guys.😢 We never had a widely known issue related to it in here.
This happened two times to my Hyundai Accent this year. For those that experienced thefts needs to come together to file a class action lawsuit against platforms that supports these challenging videos.
@@LeafyGw100% agree. All social media platforms allowing any videos like this should be sued also and taken down.. but the damage is done. Kids know how to do this now.
R&D engineer here and this is really simple: the designers aren’t car people. Worked at a supplier for a while and not many R&D engineers there were into the product we were supplying too (can’t give too much info but let’s just say what we made propelled the vehicle in question).
Yo I’d like to agree with you that “the designers aren’t car people” but Hyundai and Kia bought up a ton of bmw engineers and designers to design their cars over the last decade. So they had a ton of quality talent that absolutely 100% should have known better. They designed the cheapest car they could for every markets laws. A Canadian 2019 sonata can’t be stolen like a US one (immobilizers are mandated there) so they absolutely knew what they were doing
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You guys are so inspiring! I now own 5 kia’s!
rip 5 kias
hol up
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Watch your cars man, this Tik-Tok nonsense is getting out of hand. The deterioration of a generation.
Demon time😈😈
I remember the good old days when kia's best theft deterrent was just being a kia.
And when was that exactly
@@abbassooo 20 years ago
@@SVXtasy_ 10. I wouldn't have taken a 2012 KIA for free for fear of it breaking down. Just assume the AC or heat are broken before you even get in
Remeber the Rio. Brand new it was 9 grand and still had to throw in a ten year warranty just to sell it.
@@abbassooo yesterday? 😉
This happened to me yesterday in CT, and I am devastated. These kids have no idea the damage and stress they are causing people.
It happened to my mother a couple days ago, she’s devastated
And they don't care because they're punk asses. But time and life are gonna catch up to them.
They know, they just don't care. Most of these kids have zero empathy or compassion. They aren't able to think of anyone but themselves.
My Hyundai was broken into last night. They destroyed the ignition system and tore up the dash. They weren't able to start the car. But now I can't drive.
they don’t care at all i had my car took in august and still don’t have it back
Sorry to hear it! I know how violating it feels when someone so much as touches your stuff, let alone steals it. Let's not just be victims, though. Let's scream as loud as we can that we're not taking this on the cheek. Let's join the class action suit.
This have caused me so much stress and almost cost me my job. I cried for an entire week straight. I honestly cried myself out of tears and paying all the cost out of pocket. It’s messed up because my insurance dropped me and I am still paying on the car. I was 5 days away from getting my recall fixed because it was so booked out. I literally felt dead and never understood the importance of how important a car is. I don’t wish nothing but lessons on those people for causing so much distress. I worked so hard to get out of being homeless for 5 years to fall back on the ground like that.
I had to pay $1200 out of pocket to fix just the window on my car and the ignition is still damaged. After I pay my Hyundai off i'm done with cars and getting me a motorcycle.
@DaTrillion. Did you have insurance on your car? Full coverage would have paid for all that
@@irulan9161 Yeah I do have it, but I pay $550 a month and my deductible is already at $1,000. It's only high because of an accident from 2022 that wasn't even my fault.
@@DaTrillion just buy a Toyota or Honda, im looking at new Corollas. They all have immobilizers standard. Hyundai and Kia both lost me as a customer. I drive a 2013 Hyundai Accent and I have to be diligent where I park it. Its so annoying.
@@dylanash2569 Too late now
It was only a matter of time before people realized kia's only anti-theft was being bland.
Skurt
Them stinger parts expensive. Imjs.
"Kia, the anti theft is in the design"
Ha ha 10 points for the awesome comment
You say bland, I say reliable, affordable and efficient.
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Also, please don't steal my Kia.
My buddy had his Kia broken into. Ignition all torn apart but they didn't steal it. We think they got to that point, maybe even got it started, but then realized it was a stick and they didn't know how to drive it lol.
watch for them ghetto boys they'll steal your bike too
More likely it was a Kia and didn’t start
I have a manual too and that's kind of what I'm counting on might install it immobilizer now cuz I just bought a Kia Soul
@@MagicBoy445 oofffff idk why you would JUST buy a Kia this has been a thing for months your just asking to get you car stolen 🤣 hood luck
@@ryanmurphy2089 INSURANCE Moneyyyyyy......and you know where insurance pays from....pockets of others.
As other people have stated, lock cylinders have always been able to be removed by pressing a button. The difference is every other car requires the lock cylinder to be turned with a key before the button will press in. I can't believe a world wide company would let this happen.
Not to mention the security issues in older vehicles which prompted the smart keys to be designed had metal steering column components so they were far more difficult to overcome with brute force.
This design is an embarrassment to Kia and they deserve everything that's happened.
I work in a KIA service department and people are always calling and asking about this.
Why? We still have these kinds of fail with Kwikset and MasterLock, who only make locks...
i can Kia has always been and will always be the worst to me
Cars of yester year also had their cylinder assemblies in metal brackets not plastic. Which could still be broken but required more effort to do. Still nothing compared to old fords with the steal me junction (solenoid) in the engine bay and the hood without an interior latch.
The sad thing is that people work hard to buy their vehicles. On top of that they use their cars to get to work. If the car is paid off and you no longer have theft insurance you are stuck. Thieves don't consider the devastating consequences their actions cause. Car theft convictions need to be harsher and have minimum mandatory sentences even for first time offenders.
They don't care, the more devastation, stress, and heartbreak they cause, the better for them.
US should have a "3 strikes and you're out" policy. After being convicted of 3 felonies you get the death penalty
@@GoogleDoesEvil the liberals would have a fit. In most states if you have 3 violent first degree felonies you get a life sentence.
People seem to think just because it has 4 wheels that it must be reliable. Kia and Hyundai have proven that. Any part that you buy for it is no better than what came off of it. The vehicles are so thrashed that parts in a wrecking yard aren’t of any value.. engines that are full of metal shavings, gummed up because they have never had the oil changed, etc.. this is why wrecking yards don’t want the liability and stuff whole Korean cars straight into the crusher. You will never see a Korean car in a wrecking yard that’s been mined of parts- there is no value in them.
@@peteness9550 yes, so true. They are disposable cars.
This video just made me genuinely sad. Thieves suck. I feel terrible for those owners.
Some people don’t buy vehicles because of a really small flaw. They did there research and understood they were not going to like that specific car…. If you left a car dealership talk you out of 25 - 40k for a car I’m not surprised you didn’t do research on the vehicle they sold you non the less
It's no joke. Happened to my partners kia last night at our apartment. He had personal projects that meant a lot to him in that car.
@@abrahamperez8565 MOST consumers have terrible locks even on their homes (which both cost more and house family, which is arguably more important). I was picking house locks since diapers... Now with $20 you can buy a bumpgun and pretty much anyone is getting into your house in just a few seconds.
If you watch LPL (Lock Picking Lawyer), he goes over showing several bump keys that open all Ford models, all Volkswagen group models, etc. Also thanks to Lichi tools you can not only pick but decode (to properly make a key to come back later) and get almost any car with ease. I've also CAD designed my own key based on a photo and traced it then 3d printed it. I don't think you understand how all locks are literally child's play (there is one safe I was never able to crack, but even as a child my grandfather for Christmas bought me a mechanics stethoscope so I could hear tumblers). I wasn't that much into lock picking, but it came super useful when my dad would forget the keys to a lock and driving a tractor back a few miles would take an hour, and picking was faster. I still to this day cannot open a combination lock if I know the numbers, but I can do it behind my back in a few seconds (those are super easy to pick, but its just another example of the illusion of security)
These people are a blight on society. To think we went out of our way to ship these people here for cheap labor.
As a former car thief I have to say, though, that this ignition system's design is way too easy to exploit.
Normally & WAAAY back in the day I needed a minimum of 3 tools PLUS drill bits to break into a car's ignition system, & that's just the break-in.
Once I'm in & depending on the make & model I could have to spend as much as 4-5 minutes starting the car.
These Kia Boys are exploiting a ridiculously hackable ignition system that was built this way to save the manufacturer money.
P.S. take it from a former player in this game that almost nothing beats The Club, particularly The Club system that goes over the accelerator pedal! Back in the day if I saw either of those things, I walked. They are defeatable, yes, but not by a street car thief. You need frikkin' Jaws Of Life to pry one of those. I never heard of anyone who could successfully pry a Club off of a completely circular steering wheel without cutting the wheel, which takes a lot of time.
I was dying at the Gurty part. It's unfortunate for anyone to get their car stolen but the mustard color kia soul made it a little easier to laugh about
Sure did.
Especially when said gurty was off roading
The yellow soul rocking through the yard had me cracking up
But maybe thats what she could afford...
Kia should gift her a brand new mustard yellow soul.
Funnily enough i just got a letter from KIA corporate last week saying that due to a class action suit they are offering free steering wheel clubs to all KIA owners because of this.
And instead of taking the blame for sub-par design they blamed it on: "risky social media "challenges" that encourage young people to break-in and steal certain Kia vehicles."
They don't work They can be taken off in less than 30 seconds. All you do is hacksaw the steering wheel right next to the club lock pull the club off But they already know alarm with a immobilizer to the fuel pump At the end of the day it's the insurance companies that pay then they pass the cost onto the consumer
I think the blame should go both ways. If people weren't stealing because of what they saw on socially media, this wouldn't be happening (as much) as well as if Hyundai Kia put in mobilizers this also wouldn't be happening. However they 100% should be taking the blame regardless.
@@JamarD421 Yeah, of course both parties are to blame.
I just thought it was amusing that after a shortcoming in their design was discovered and exploited; instead of offering to remedy their short-sighted design choice with an immobilizer, they instead just offered a bandaid solution that can also be easily bypassed with a pair of bolt-cutters.
Maybe you oughta blame crime on the criminals. Just a thought.
That's what a sane society would do.
@@christophe9602 Criminals and the cities that refuse to prosecute them.
Can’t wait for the Kia boys to meet the Glock boys 😂
I'm surprised this is just now a thing. My grandfather owned a junk yard and taught how to hot wire (threatened to hang me by my toes if I ever did it outside the yard) when I was 10. KIA were my favorite because they were so easy 15 years later nothings changed.
Damn it's a shame nothing has changed at all
Cool grandfather
Disposable then, disposable now
damn lmao
Chad Grandpa
Craziest thing to me is that they're charging for the kit and installation when it's completely and utterly their own screw up
Is it though? Don't get me wrong, I understand they they are super-douches for squeezing buggers out of Lincolns nose.... But there is no regulation stating that vehicles have to have passive anti-theft immobilizers. It would be totally different if someone could argue in court that the car was represented has having advanced anti-theft systems, then it would be their screw up.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333 sounds like it needs to be legislated like it is in canada. Insurance companies are taking note of these issues too, so rates for "cheap" kias could soon become outrageous.
@@vandersnickmcduffle7333 I mean yeah, they should, look at it this way, TikTok is a big app, this is getting traction, people are going to start getting scared, they're going to be looking for solutions, find out that Kia is charging to fix the problem unlike the other brands, people can't do shit about so Kia wins... Except people are going to go to the internet and are going to start complaining, other people start learning about this stuff and then boom, Kia gets a really bad reputation, which in the long run will hurt sales and also like the guy before me said, it will make insurance companies to increase their rates on Kia cars just to be safe, which will also hurt sales because people would not pay outrageous prices for a cheap car.
That's the reason why car brands always make recall as soon as a problem gets found with any of their models it can hurt sales later.
@@amanasd26 I would agree 110%. I was surprised that it wasn't regulation when I went looking for it.
@@dkrampage2933 I don't disagree, and I'm sure Kia Motors of America sees it that way as well. Doubt Korea sees it like that though. And they ultimately call the shots.
The only reason I don't totally agree with you is that recalls aren't some arbritrary thing that manufacturers do. NHTSA tells the OEM that they are out of compliance with emissions, safety, or other regulation. If it is "Volutary", that means the OEM went to NHTSA and said "Hey, we aren't compliant and we are recalling" and NHTSA said "Yeah, you are right, proceed". Because of this, if they were to do something free of charge, it would be some sort of voluntary campaign that they initiate, manage, and report on, themselves.
Yes, I know, i'm being picky with words. But in my line of work for another OEM, the "R" word is taken very seriously.
I genuinely cannot believe that there were cars being sold in 2021 in the US without factory immobilisers.
I guess one could buy a Canadian model
with a factory immobiliser & learn km/hr.
Me too, I thought it was basic equipment just like having airbags or abs brakes. The US is a joke
Yet only kia and Hyundai didn't do it.
@@lupusdeum3894 In the US new model cars have the option to switch between MP/H and KM/H, does Canada not have cars with that option?? I'd assume they would depending on the manufacturer, but I don't live in Canada, so was curious based on your comment.
@@linkthelegend01 All cars in Canada have both sets of speed display options
Fatherless Behavior, Social media and Prosecutors that don't hold criminals accountable are a bad combination.
Love your profile pic.
Real
Usual Suspects 😂
I did the research on my own Kia. The lock cylinder is contained inside of a plastic housing. So, all you need is a hammer and punch to smash the lock out. And the USB-A connector just happens to fit over the shaft protruding from the actual ignition switch. A needle nose pliers will turn it as well. It's basically just the same brute force method to steal vehicles that was popular in the 1970s and 1980s.
my kia starts with a button lol
I was thinking the same about the needle nose pliers...
@@mackgonebald oh you're fancy 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao my dad’s chevy 1500 van got broken into that way.
@@Joe_Mama285 Is that plastic, too?
Just when you forget that people were stealing KIAs, donut comes to the rescue!
You must be living under a rock
Jesus loves you alot trust in His death 4 salvation and be saved from eternal hell
Can't forget what everyone already knows. Plus the news keeps saying it. I don't have tick tok. I heard this in the news. 😂😂
@@Fit4C hail Satan 666
Most of the work is removing the lock cylinder. Once you’re past that point how you turn the ignition switch is up to you. The news reports made it sound like all you need is a usb cable.
Crazy... I’m an appraiser for an insurance company and we literally just had a meeting two days ago letting us know to expect a sharp rise in claims involving stolen Kia’s/Hyundai’s. We were not aware about the “Kia Boys” challenge though.
*Edit* There are so many appraisers per insurance company and so many different insurance companies out there that not one single insurance company is taking the entire brunt of this trend so yeah. When you consider how many claims get submitted per day for a ton of different types of reasons, it takes a lot for things like this to start making a dent. However that doesn’t mean we’re just now seeing these claims. Oh we’ve been seeing them. We just didn’t know why these vehicles were suddenly being targeted besides the fact that they’re easy to steal. I mean, if they’re that easy to steal then why has this only been going on for a few months and not years? Thanks to Donut, now I know the “why” side of it. Hard to follow car trends on TikTok when you don’t have TikTok I guess.
I would have opened with Kia Boyz in that meeting/presentation.
Well now you’ve got the “inside scoop”
Hop on the next promotion you can😂
Time to get a raise boyyyyy
Honeslty this is such an oversight on hyundai and Kia's part that the insurance companies should sue them for the damages they have to pay out.
Hella late lmao
stealing someones car or phone should put it as a FAR higher then just that items value as a car is often someones lifeline and a phone contains all the data and personal stuff of a person stealing these should be FAR more hefty crimes
Please help me report this video to RUclips and your local police
Why report this video? There is no violation of law or youtube guidelines. The police even if you were 100% commited and have backup they wouldnt help you.
When I heard about this, I thought the USB thing was about hooking the car up to a phone with some app people found online that targets Kia, I didn't think it was using it as a "key"!
Idk why people were lying about that, maybe to deter people from doing it?
Could also use some long nose pliers, but if you don't own a screwdriver odds are you don't own pliers either :-)
It looks like any usb would work. The tendency to use iPhone ones shows iPhone users are bigger losers than other cell phone users. 😉
Almost same here. I thought they had found a way to jump the circuit using the USB cable from the USB charger port to the ignition switch. Far be it from me to actually go watch a video and find out. Don't own one. Don't want one. DGAF
@@SurleyBlaine How tf do you get that conclusion? You fandroids are something else 😂😂😂
Been a Kia tech for years and we knew this for a long time and was ignored when we brought this to their attention!
I hope you get in on the class action lawsuit. That's pretty bad.
I was considering buying a Kia sportage, now I don't.
Too bad you couldn't say anything about it or you'd be fired... Look at Boeings airplane manager safety guy or whoever tf he was... Found dead in his car smh
but it's not a Kia problem...
Wild to find out that not all 2000+ or so cars have immo system
I'm here because this happened to me today as well! Got a Kia Soul as a grad present a few years ago. My parents taught me a lot of street smarts, so I made sure the car was locked, windows up, no keys in it, nothing valuable in it either. And yet, the thieves were able to steal it and drive it away with ease. Fortunately, some very kind and friendly cops helped me out, but it sucks to know my car was so vulnerable to this. I guess you never really think it can happen to you, until it does.
Did you learn them from JJ Bittenbinder? Sorry I saw street smarts and went straight to John Mulaney 😅
Don't ever buy a Kia again.
@@1HeatWalk Not planning on it. I’m now part of the VDub Club.
My Kia soul plus (2018) was my first new car I ever bought by myself.. it was stolen Friday.. leaving me and my 2 kids stranded all weekend.. made me miss two days of work- half a paycheck.. even w full coverage insurance.. I had to pay $175 for the tow.. wait 3 days for a rental due to being the busiest time of year for rentals in Vermont due to foliage.. finally got it today h went to see my car.. it’s wrecked basically.. all scratched and coming apart in places.. they broke my sunglasses just because.. stole my 5 years old metal baseball bat.. the one thing he cared about when he learned mommy’s car was stolen.. I’m a struggling mom and this crippled me even more.. months before Xmas.. I’m so defeated.. no matter how hard I work, how hard I try.. how good of a person I am.. I have the worst luck.. car thefts don’t happen where I live.. they do now all the sudden cuz the moron kids can’t seem to use their brains or think for themselves.. they follow trends because that’s all the know how to do is follow.
Hope the tide pod challenge comes back quick.
Locking your car, rolling the windows up, and not leaving your keys in it is not "street smarts", it's common sense.
Thanks for showing this. I was trying to understand how a USB could allow it to happen.
i’m from milwuakee, y’all don’t understand how often this happens. another reason why they do it is because if they do get caught, they only get charged with a misdemeanor and get out of jail like a few days later. keep in mind these are kids as young as 14 to grown adults. i recommend watching the tommy g documentary on the kia boys for more information
I like Kia's response "Thieves gon' thieve, shame on them. Have a good one"
@Joey The "NINO" Burrito Jesus christ man you’re an actual psychopath
@Joey The "NINO" Burrito Oh man he doubles down. FBI flase flag event when?
@Joey The "NINO" Burrito Lol no.
@@xypper7527 1. hes not wrong, once a criminal is usually always a criminal, no use for scum like that in our society. 2. Stand your ground is a thing in the states, where a personal vehicle counts as property. Nothing wrong here
@Joey The "NINO" Burrito blast em
I love how they took 40 steps back with their anti theft systems
this is why i listen to scotty. he was right.
KIA hyundai just DONT care about customers.
they steal every penny and lie.
thire engines are blowing up, transmission fail, catching fire while parking about burndown house.
now this?
You have a stack of likes
Again, these are the models that sell for like 12k brand new. Most Models have push to start or the Kia smart key with immobilizer. I think these people should have known what they were getting into buying the cheapest models in America. My Kia has windows break sensors and push to start
@@pkoya341 I had an old Renault Symbol, Colombian spec and all it had a key with immobilizer. Even that thing had it. And it was dirt cheap. Maybe it had it because it the Colombian spec… still was dirt cheap and 2005. Inexcusable.
@@damilercf my 2002 renault kangoo has too and that was 8k used back in 2004
As far as I know Hyundai and Kia both have immobilizers in Europe since it's mandatory all the way from 1998. It's crazy they cheap out by not factory fitting them in the US.
Literally more investigative journalism done in this video than in all of modern day media combined lol
That's what I'm saying, also hi. Thank you for providing me with tons of content to watch for years.
woa, Roanoke watching how to steal a car 😂
Dude! This _is_ modern day media. Don't pay attention to last century's media, okay? Get your news here.
Holy shit lol
@@jpaugh64 Some last century medias still make sense in 2022.
charging for the kit is a real kick in the nutz. they should issue a recall and make it right. stand by your product
and to be honest they should be paying every car stolen till now till they go on bankrupt..
@@xJADD Kia had $61b revenue in 2021. that wouldn't bankrupt them.. regardless, I got no love for insurance companies, let them pay out, imo
Yup that was certainly a DGAF fix. Heres A kit for $170 + labor to install for something you should have had built into the cars in the first place. All To save like $25 in the manufacturing process.
Recall for what? Did they represent that the vehicle had an immobilizer? Or are we going full Karen and stating the vehicle should be recalled because you don't like something about it.
Sorry, I get that Hyundai/Kia was EXCESSIVELY cheap here, and they suck for it. But there is no defect, no non-compliance, and to my knowledge, no misrepresentation.
Or maybe the government should just have better education system
Nolan losing his absolute shit watching that made my day, lol.
The laughing about Gurdy 😂😂😂
Can confirm. My kia was stolen about a month ago. Never found. My insurance isn’t the best so they pretty much paid out kia for me and now I’m struggling to get another car. Insurance seems to think this is how it was stolen since my make and model fell under the vulnerable ones.
Ugh that sucks, I'm sorry that happened to you
@Transitive Wisdom yeah I was about to say I wouldn't call my Stinger GT exactly slow 😦
@Paul had an 01 camry, left the window open at one point for hours when I was at work, luckily no one did anything lmao. Doubt anyone want to steal a camry.
@Transitive Wisdom You realize that newer Kias and Hyundai's are co-designed by the former head of research and technology at BMW's M division, right? The Kia Stinger GT is basically an M3, and all the Hyundai N cars are basically other BMW models, minus all the usual BMW BS.
@@Caffeinated-DaVinci just cause one guy that used to work at bmw now works at hyundai doesn't mean their cars are "basically" bmws now haha. they are still trash boxes
2015-2021 is such a long range of cars and still so new. Someone probably saved up to buy their brand new Kia last year just to now have it be looked at as a joy ride.
Save up a little more and don't buy a kia or hyundai as they are utter trash.
My Hyundai Accent was just stolen the other day in San Diego. Just bought it two weeks ago. Hadn’t even made my first monthly payment and now it’s someone’s joy ride. FML
@@dooby4scooby76dsorry for laughing
My Kia was stolen in Orlando 2 feet away from my window beween 3 am and 6 am. my doctor documents were in my car. I have to bother my family 2 towns over to help me out. I moved out of Orlando yesterday. i'm looking at cars now and can't afford down payment.
Ah yes tiktok, humanity’s failure, embarrassment, and disappointment, all in one.
Glad you're on the normal side of the anti Tik-Tok gang. Yeah, this is the incompetence of lawmakers that they let it slide, Trump could've sent Tik-Tok to the Gulags. Manipulation, Inciting a Crime, Gross Negligence, and Fruad.
Crimes that this mistake deserves to be served cold, BTW I have a peach sherbert ice cream and a teacup to drink the narcissistic teens tears if this app is deleted from existence.
IM STILL WAITING 😈
Just gonna say it, Trump was right to shut down Tiktok
A All in one easy data collection app for the chinese. Everyone knows it and nobody cares. The app uploads a complete tracking profile for their use. Locations you went, times spent, what you bought, apps used, websites visited, etc. It's really fckd up.
@@Ceece20 yes
@@Ceece20 Well, you can say that on all social media. I mean, why nobody ask him to shut down all social media?
I live in a very small Arizona town. I just received a letter from Kia about this challenge. I had heard of it about a year ago. Kias letter was offering me a free steering lock device. I ordered it, and a few days later I got a "club" steering wheel lock. Ha! Hilarious! Great "fix" Kia.
whats hilarious about? is the "club" steering wheel lock bad?
As a kia technician that deals with these weekly, this is amazing
It amazes me how much of a screw up Kia has on their hands. Not even a steering lock. Cars, even cheap ones, have had that for decades…
@@angelgjr1999 My 1996 E36 has a steering lock but they dont lol
@@angelgjr1999 when u can buy a brand new car for under $10k what do u expect. Most push button vehicles don't have steering wheel locks if u haven't noticed. Steering wheel locks are mostly mechanical so if u only have a push button they generally never lock the steering shaft.
if your flat-rate and installing those kits all day i believe you lol
@@angelgjr1999 i dont know the specifics of these cars, but he did remove the entire lock in the video, if you do you usually dont have a steering lock afterwards
How can it be as easy as it was in the 60s and 70s to steal a car made in 2010-2020? Completely insane.
actually easier
America
@@RedesCat pretty much, in Europe, japan and so an immobilizer is mandatory 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
My car would be really easy to steal, but the knuckleheads who steal cars for TikTok clout probably wouldn’t be able to shift it. I’ve had to break into my car before when I locked my keys in the car at work like a dumbass, and it only took a minute and an unfolded coat hanger. Oh yeah, and my car is from 2005
@@Fhwgads11 Same for mine, except its even harder to shift than your 2005, mine is a 67 with a 3sp column shift manual with loose bushings, go ahead and get those linkages binded while going from 1st to 2nd gear lmao !
As someone from Milwaukee, where this has been a thing for *years,* I'm so glad this is getting more coverage because it's BAD. I've had people I know have their cars stolen 3+ times.
Every time a kia?
@@RGV2300 Kias and Hyundais, yeah. "The Kia Boys" have been around for awhile here, and within the last 6 months or so it's picked up in other cities.
Give them this tip: When Parking up for the night pop the hood and pull the fuse for the fuel pump and put it in your house somewhere til you need to drive next👍 Cant go anywhere without fuel, and I doubt if the car wont start that theyre gonna go trying to fix it for you lol. Before you set off again, pop it back in and off you go, its like a 30 seconds job. Used to do it with my motorcycle, it got stolen twice and each time it was literally around the corner from my house where they dumped it cos they wheel it away silently somewhere they can start it, only they couldnt start it! So would just abandon it. I Found it kinda funny tbf
@Ds0661 hidden killswitches are still an option, but obviously won't stop the car from being targeted in the first place.
@Ds0661 If you’re still in Canada then your car has the thing that prevents them from being stolen en mass. You should be all good.
2:18 I can't help myself I watched it 50 times😂😂😂😂
So here’s the immediate engineering issues I see.
First issue:
The lock body housing isn’t metal.
Second issue:
The lock cylinder release pin ***SHOULD NOT*** allow release of the cylinder until the proper matching key in inserted. That definitely does NOT meet motor vehicle regulations.
It's kias and hyundais, they aren't known for their well engineered cars lmao they break down a lot due to them using the cheapest parts.
Excellent Observation. As Locksmith I watched and said impossible as the pin does not depress unless the key is turned to the acc position. They did it for likes. but cant fool a lock tech
How is this thing showing up on my timeline 9 seconds after it's uploaded? Am I in heaven right now??
Same dude. Can’t sleep , so ITS EARLY SQUAD!
@@SerpaTCB sameeeee
Lol, came out at 6am and 25 thousand ppl have seen already 😂
Because MO POWA BABY
Your in heavin now…so sorry you died
Can confirm. Got my ride nabbed yesterday. Went out to go visit a friend, realized my car wasn't there. I got camera footage of it, and I got a police report filed. But my God. Never again is this company gonna get my cash, never again.
Did you laugh and laugh and laugh knowing those rascally "Kia boys" got ya? I'm sure it was hilarious!
won't you get some money from the insurance?
@@nemesiszz If you have "full coverage". If you don't, they only cover the other person's vehicle if you are in an accident and it's your fault. Theft is not covered if you have a "limited liability" policy. It is the cheapest insurance, so many people select to get that policy.
cops don't do shit, think your car is coming back to you???
@@T_bone that’s sad asf
I live in the Milwaukee area and had my Sportage stolen…. Never got it back. But was able to buy a Tundra instead lol!
imagine someone stealing your Kia soul for a tiktok video
What if it was bmw or mercedes
Murders would happen
@@HappyDude1 with the right person, a Kia would still promote that
I mean that's why insurance is for.
New fucking car!!!!!
Imagine creating a tutorial to help thieves steal one
Dang, thanks for letting consumers know. I have never heard this! and thanks for showing the mechanical differences between - the visual really helped me understand the issue.
What ultimately sucks is that it doesn’t matter if people install aftermarket security devices. These vehicles are being targeted, which means they’re going to get broken into no matter what. Whether or not they can actually end up taking the vehicle on a joyride ultimately, it just means you no longer want a Kia or Hyundai.
Or a mopar of any sort
I don't no who would want a Kia or Hyundai in the First place but here we are 😂✌
Thieves often just steal what's most convenient. If your car is harder to steal than one down the block then yeah they'll still steal something but it won't be yours, and at the end of the day that's all you can do as an owner.
I think Kia and Hyundai receive too much unnecessary hate. Want a reliable, no frills a to b car? They are your answer. 10 year warranty from factory is more than anyone gives, and I’ve had mine for multiple years with no issues other than regular oil changes etc. Not to mention at the fraction of a price of its competitors.
Sure, it’s not exciting. But as a daily to get you to where you want to go reliably? It’s perfect.
Ignore the fact that I just traded it in for a truck, that’s a different story 😂
@@lJADU Agreed, both my and my wife drive a Hyundai. She drives a 2007 and I have a 2012. We both had zero issues and will buy another when it dies. I live in an area that getting car stolen is unlikely, but I did install an aftermarket alarm that interrupts the starter circuit when armed. I prefer having no immobilizer, spare keys cost $4 vs $50, I don't have to install a bypass kit with the alarm, and one less thing that can malfunction.
The lockpicking lawyer would be proud of the bypass technique.
Jerry already knew all this. Everyone from Florida learns how to steal cars and syphon gas in the 4th grade.
Yesss
Same with Portland Oregon. And New York. And Chicago. And Detroit. And Minneapolis. And L.A.
Alright but on the real....between lockpicking and hotwiring... He is quite skilled.
gotta remember he's only 21 though
I had my car stolen today. I don't know if I'll ever get it back and now I don't know what I'm going to do since I can't afford another car right now. I really wish I had my car back. I worked hard to save up that money and they just don't care. I hope no one else experiences this.
Sad to hear bro. People can be pure trash...
Well. Do you have an iphone charger?
Was it a KIA or a hyundai?
@@yourchildhoodbedroom9584 android 😢
@@SniperNator305 To be fair, it doesn't need to be a charger cable. Just have something with USB-A connector. :D
This is the perfect excuse to buy the quick disconnect steering wheel I’ve been wanting for my genesis. Thanks Donut!
Manual swap it too, it’s basically an anti-theft device in America these days
Good luck in a collision
@@jst_TV laughs in german
@@leergutlars Hyundais in ewwrope have immos
@@ranpatoamami7048 it's been mandatory since '98 here, but i meant that basically half of the US cant really drive a Car.
My buddy's wife's suv got broken into. They never got the car started but they trashed the steering column and ignition cylinder anyway. It sucks and they were without their car for over a week while the dealership and the insurance company got it working again. All that said, that video of Gurty flying over a hill was fucking gold.
I have a Kia and was super worried about getting mine stolen because car thefts aren’t uncommon where I live, so I bought a steering wheel lock that clicks into by seatbelt. SUPER convenient, and I’m pretty sure it had already deterred a potential thief! I had my window shattered a week ago but my car is still here! Def recommend for anyone else nervous about losing their car
Edit: Just want to give an update cause somehow people are still seeing my 9 month old comment…yeah my car got stolen. Like a couple months after making this comment. Clipped my seatbelt buckle right off and drove off, ended up totaling the car. Ended up being a blessing in disguise though since my insurance ended up giving me WAY more than what my car was actually worth so I could afford a nicer car.
So long story short your Kia will never be safe. Get rid of the damned thing
Mfers will cut your seat belt!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nobody was wearing one in any video I've seen 🤣🤣🤣
They are still stealing the Cars with the steering wheel locks on them, consider yourself lucky for now.
@@kmaloof1405 Yep, they just cut chunks out of the steering wheel to get the lock off.
Pop your hood and take your starter relay out when you're not using it. Without the relay, it won't even start with the key plus it's free where a lock is not.
@@aaronisnotalive but your window is still broken
You guys should do a story on how 12v shops actually go about doing things to PROPERLY add aftermarket security to a vehicle. And even over and above the factory security, and on top of transponder chipped vehicles.
A reputible 12v specialty shop that does audio remote starts security etc is an excellent place to learn about these things and how it's done when done right
12 volt shop?
@@ronblack7870 car audio electronics remote starters security etc
I remember when the Immobilizer laws were coming in in Canada. A lot of people were upset by them because they thought it was Government over reach and wasn't needed. The insurance companies paid for the immobilizers mind you, but a good portion at the beginning weren't happy, especially as owners of certain models (in my Province atleast) wouldn't be able to renew their insurance until they agreed to have the immobilizer installed.
Well, If the law was applied only for new cars from that era I can agree. But yes, forcing you to install an immobilizer in order to have insurance sounds like a bit too much
Isn't that the general consensus these days when the government introduces something to help people? And when it works everyone who was against it either goes quite or jumps on the bandwagon, sad to see people think they are important enough to assume the government wants to control them.
Why not just require all new cars with immobilizers instead? Are the people shouldering the cost?
I remember back in the 90s my buddy had a firebird with a computer chip u had to plug in to start it lol
Unfortunately because of all of this I cant even get car insurance for my Kia. So thank you so much...for the inconvenience
Did you ever find any? I can’t get insurance for my Hyaundi
I am a locksmith in South Africa, the vehicles here also has the immobilizing key. But on those kia and hyundai models we dont have plastic ignitions, ours are metal. So jamming a screwdriver and wrenching it around will take tou waaaay longer, and ours needs the key to turn to Acc ( the first click) before that little pin can be pressed in to remove the ignition barrel. Love the show btw
I'm South African too an my wife has a 2015 soul (like Gerty). Interestingly my wife's given name is Gertruida too which makes this even funnier. Anyway... When I saw this video I also suspected that our Korean imports are probably Euro spec, given what a key replacement on these costs!
It makes sense that they wouldn't skimp on security in a market where car jacking is so common --- at least, from what I've heard. Or course, you'd think they'd do the same for Chicago. 🤷🏻 Maybe South Africa has stronger laws in place than the US.
@@jpaugh64 When cars are (hi)jacked over here, they do it while you are in the car. In other words, they take the keys. In some ways, the higher number of hijackings is caused by the security inherent in the vehicle. Because it is difficult to steal them, it becomes easier to hijack them. Thankfully KIA and Hyundai cars are not really popular for hijacking, at least less popular. The most popular hijack targets are still the popular Toyotas, the VW Polo, and increasingly the Ford Ranger. Also, 3-series BMW and larger Audi's are popular options for later use in cash in transit robberies.
I think the reason we have the better lock is simply because South Africa has always had a preference for the Euro spec cars, and many of our models are imported from Korea (some models are built in Benoni, in the Gauteng province). That means we get the Korean-built cars, rather than the US-built ones. It probably makes more financial sense that way.
This lock issue is very much an American issue 🙂
To give an example of where the reverse happens. The Suzuki Swift, sold in South Africa, is built in India by Maruti. The same car, sold in Europe, is built in Hungary. Same car, but it means the Europeans get a slightly better put-together option.
@@plonkster Cool! I learned a lot. Thank you!
It's crazy to think that people use thier brains for evil like this. It's kinda funny but it still sucks for those involved.
Welcome to earth there are people who work for what they have and then there's those who steal and kill for it surprised your just now finding this out both sides will always exist and the thief will kill you for YOUR stuff
I mean they're 16-18 years and fucking figured this shit out in their own, imagine if they used those "big" brains for something actually productive
Wonder what those engineers over at Kia got paid to cause such a silly/simple problem
Have you seen our military budget?
Ya, stealing from every day, lower/middle-class people is really scummy. If they were stealing from a dealers lot, I really wouldn't care. You're a POS if you steal from people that are struggling every day just to get by.
This totally happened with my 2000 Dodge Intrepid! Exact same thing! When they finally found it the ignition cylinder was sitting in the seat. Thankfully the insurance had paid me before they found it, so I was able to get a new to me car.
4:10 I'm not gonna do this at home, but i'm gonna do this at a car.
My wife and I were in the hospital for a kidney swap ,when we came home we noticed our kia soul had been stolen. She was so disappointed and crying, the car was recovered . They destroyed it. If I would have been home, it would have been a bad day for them.
I am in the same boat encephalitis of my brain and all my meddical forms were in my car.
The Terminator movies probably have one of the most accurate hot wiring sequence in an action movie because he rips off the steering column cover instead of just having random wires come out of nowhere
In Europe, an immobiliser is also mandatory. Didn’t know it wasn’t in America and car manufacturers also cheaping out on them lol
UK mandatory sine 1998 all cars sold must have immobiliser
Then I guess you have no cars stolen in the land of lala.....
@@MustardNketchup at least not by an usb cable
Y'all had me WORRIED, until you mentioned they aren't built like this in Canada. 🙌
depends where that kia was originally
Damn lol
@@ScootsMcPoot yeah, but nobody buys ex usa cars in Canada, sure some Canadian market cars are built in the states, but by law they have diffrent features enabled in order to be sold in a civilized country, like daytime running lights and immobolizers
@@underadesk bro my american sold and made car has daytime lights. And there are alot of American cars in canada. I live on the border, and i ve even crossed to buy vehicles to bring back. Canada and usa have a deal, you can drive with either registration and license in either country. And you say civilized eh? if Canada is so great why is 90% of your population crammed on the border with the Usa
@@ScootsMcPoot you can drive with either registration and license in either country, but that doesn't mean you can register an US Spec car in canada if its missing features that a car that is registered in canada needs to have, importing a car from the US into canada that doesn't meet canadian specifications isn't possible without making it meet the specifications, for instance current year cars have to have an electronic immobiliser and a metric speedometer, if the car that was imported doesn't have those it has to be modified to have them, and if it can't be modified to have them then it can't be registered in canada.
I love how they blurred out how to do it but it's still super easy to tell what they did, and you can look up how to do it easily anyway
Any chance we can get a brief play through
Limiting legal liability while still being an informative and entertaining video🤷♀️
Kinda scary seeing the car I own right now get stolen so easily
Yeah and they just showed millions of us how to do it. Isn't it awesome?
Install a battery cut off switch somewhere now!
@@floppybeefcurtains7679 TikTok has more reach than anything in the world, especially for the kids that would do this.
That's bad, where do you live? 💩
Mine has a push button start, woo
2:05 Who gives their cars a name? I'm of the same mind as The Hound when it comes to naming swords.
Jokes aside, I feel really bad for the owner of Gertrude. Seems like she really loved her car, unlike some “car guys” who drives expensive cars and treat them like shit.
Yeah you should buy cars and leave them in the garage
same, every car/person deserves respect
She was playing up thing's for the camera but it still sucks to get your car stolen. Hope she gets some money from Kia.
@@TT-wi8mq "nooooo they laughed at someone!!1!1!!! Bad!!1!!!1! Unsubscribed!1!1!!1!1"
@@TT-wi8mq go cry
This is actually really cool from a case study perspective. While it sucks that this happened, it's almost like a glitch or exploitation of a video game. It's a bypass that shouldn't have ever happened (manufacturers not expecting someone to exploit it), but someone figured it out and we get to be a part of witnessing it.
You are absolutely right it! It took over a decade for this to be a thing. It was probably circulating in the underground market for a while but once someone posted a video of it, it spred like wild fire
Not only that, but it really is easy enough to do on your own. Kinda fun being both a car thief AND the guy warning people how easy their car is to steal
Hopefully soon it will be patched 😆
Kia’s to the moon
More like a lack of morals in modern society. People are now looking to take things because of ease or not caring about the effects it has on others, or the consequences they may face if caught. Carjackings in general are up in many places by a large margin. If they cant do a hack on a vehicle, they are doing it by gunpoint too.
It would be cool if you guys did a video on how to install the anti theft kit yourselves.
it would be awesome to see them try it
"This is what happens when you defund schools." That hits.
here in Brazil it's pretty common for people to install separate security features in their car, often called "secrets", like a button that you have to press after you turn the car on, otherwise it cuts the fuel pump power, they're usually cheap and easy to install and prevent thieves from driving much further than a couple meters
theyre called kill switches!
I have something similar but it's controlled with an electric key that I have to press on a hidden contact then you have 15 seconds to turn on with the main key. If you don't do it and go directly for ignition the engine cranks but doesn't turn on at all. I think it works by closing a valve before or after the fuel pump because when operated it makes a high bzzzzz noise from under the car near the fuel tank area. I too would like to know better how it works since previous owner installed the fact is that you can hear the noise only when it's operated but it doesn't make any "closing" noise as you would expect when the car is turned off or if you let the 15 seconds expire in that case you have to press it again to hear again the unlocking sound...
Those are called kill switches. Those can be installed by anyone. Battery, fuel pump, ignition, relays.
Adding a series of kill switches & wired in a specific sequence or combinations to allow & stop current to battery, fuel pump, fuel relay, multi fuse, starter, alternator makes it harder to even look at.
All jokes aside - I’ve learned a lot from your videos over the past year after knowing nothing at all about cars. Thanks for all the laughs , entertainment, and wonderful lessons through All Of U Guys @Donut Media! 💜
woke aids
How many KIAs did you manage to sneak ?
Ah yes you how to steal a car. Very good entertainment lol
With the sheer stupidity of Tik Tok. I'm surprised they were even able to figure this out.
it didnt start off as a tik tok trend. it became one due to how common it became
I would pay to just watch videos of Nolan genuinely reacting to videos
Maybe we’ll finally get a Nolan x Hasanabi collab
@@wyattr7982 pass
I couldn't keep watching with the amount you guys are laughing at it.
Does donut know how many people have been killed by these kia Boyz 😐
He really said "even here in LA" like it's a surprise
It’s honestly a surprise they haven’t figured out how to steal homes off the foundation. Got my A/C wrecked by some crackhead who tried pulling out my window.
i remember back when i was a kid in the 90's you could open up any hatchback rear door on any Hyunday Pony, with a screwdriver or even a butter knife, it would literally take 2 seconds... You still needed to know how to hotwire a car in order to steal it, but still, a lot of thieves would just pop up the back and steal whats in the car.
Its crazy that kids are doing this for fun, meanwhile you get caught stealing a car its a serious felony..
Thats the whole issue... In a lot of places its not a felony anymore
All my old cars I rewired to be the same color
I wasn't a Kia Guy but man you can't beat these prices !!!
My mom used to always say "The cheap will almost always be more expensive in the long run". If Kia loses in court imagine how much money they would have saved if they just did it right from the get go! Plus Kia's reputation has taken a huge hit now as well.
lawsuit payout vs money saved per vehicle formula being put to the test on this one
kia spends way more on marketing and less on r&d. america sends them over 50 billion a year for junk so they dont care at all
Ford proved this point with the Pinto, they didnt even bother fixing the gas tank issue, wich was a cheap fix
That quote also follows the same logic for buying a Kia. 🤣
@@JinteiModding exactly
mega corps dont give a fuck, they would rather spend big money forecasting a potential liability fallout cost to run a minimum viable product if it saves them money in the long run
I'm surprised this is just now happening. I've been installing remote starts on Kia/Hyundai for the last 15 years and they have never used transponders in their key-turn start vehicles
My friend you are not being truthful , their keys had the 7936UNLOCKED (ID46) transponders . Shame on you
@@africasquad1060 Hasn't done any good though
@@africasquad1060 doesn't matter transponder signals are easy to mimic.
Damn so they don’t even need a screwdriver and usb they can use aggression and the tips of their fingers LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NOW 4 PEOPLE ARE DEAD
Someone stole my mom’s Kia two days ago messed up part is she is the only one that drives in her house because my brother and sister who have disabilities can’t. They took it right outside of her work which is a nursing home so someone stole from a person who probably takes care of your grandma
And those dumb just laughing watching a ridiculous video of 5 Kia driving around. Dislike to this video. Not funny at all.
Well hopefully they crash it and get messed up for life or just ya know 💀, and then have the car be covered by insurance or miraculously have it returned lol
I think that's hilarious. Moral of the story- don't buy a cheap export only car.
thats lit
yup, think they care????
All the cars in the world, and people are out here flexing about stealing a Kia. Poor Gertie. lofl
most older cars or even some bikes that doesnt have a immobilizer can be start like this or with just a screwdriver..also some older hondas can be started with toyota keys...LOL. Its just these kias are a lot newer that shouldve been already protected with newer tech like other brands...like they learned their lesson from the past...lol
RGT 85 is here?!
My daughter's 2012 Elantra was stolen last week in the hell hole of Rochester, NY. Insurance gave us way more than the car was worth, we took the money and ran away from Hyundai. She wasn't planning on buying a car but in the end, it worked out. She got a nice Mazda CX-5 and has just a small payment. Thank God the insurance covered the car.
Ever heard of the Mazda boys?
That response from Kia is giving me chaebol vibes. Basically they're doing the bare minimum and blaming criminals when in turn they're robbing their customers by not installing a fool proof system
Exactly like wtf than have the nerve too try too make you pay for the locking system 💀
Not like criminals ain't doing nothing either.
*Cars getting stolen*
Nolan: "That was comedy gold!"
As someone who lives with a Kia Soul that gave me lifts to kindergarten and now high school with the exact same VIN, I grew to love that crouched-hamster-looking box a lot.
I'm fortunate to be in an area where the Kia Boys don't seem to attack often, but I do hope to upgrade Little Silver's safety in any way I can soon after hearing this.
The best thing you can do is get a Viper alarm system installed because it will have shock sensors that can sense when a window is smashed and on top of that it blocks any attempts to start it so you CANNOT start the car until you disarm it with the key fob or use the back up method if your key fob fails. It can be difficult to bypass.
Also buy a gun.
@@r0b3rt_959 I'm American, so I'm already about 1,791 steps ahead of you.
Thanks though.
@@r0b3rt_959 Won't help you. That's for carjacking. The vast vast majority of car thieves only strike unattended cars. If they get caught carjacking that goes from 5-10 years in prison to 20-40.
Dude even my old 2003 pt cruiser had a better key system. I remember my cylinder breaking where it connected to the ignition switch. To fix it you needed to replace the steering column in its entirety. I had to use the key to disengage the shifter and steering lock, and use a flathead to turn the ignition switch.
Hi, just stopping by to say thanks for laughing at my (bland) plight.
My Sportage was stolen twice between June 26th and August 25th. I'd purchased it less than two years ago; it was the first new car I have ever purchased, and will likely be the last, since I am now in debt from multiple insurance deductibles and property loss.
Thanks again!
Cheers.
On all mk3 vw I put a fuel pump switch hidden, deleted the rear trunk opener. Pretty much theft proof
Edit: for anyone wondering why not a kill switch, when your car is straight piped it allows your car to start and idle but not drive, which allows you to step out and see what’s going on 😂
Imagine if the people who figured this out put this time and energy towards something positive
The first person to figure this out didn't use it with any malicious intent. (Since this has been a problem for over 15 years) The kids that learned from them did. At the end of the day it's teen boys doing what they have always done; Destroy boundaries while being reckless; the only problem I see is that their methods to do so have become more expensive and dangerous .
Like taking my buddy's car for a joy ride, and then returning it
Learning the glaring faults of a product isn’t really negative
@@conor7154 What race? I've seen every color of boy do this. Don't make this about race when it isn't.
@@conor7154 he ain’t cappin bruh
ngl though, Nolan laughing about Gurty wobling on the grass makes me laugh too. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
same bruh I was weak the car looked funny asf
Don't worry Nolan. I too was laughing my head off when I saw how the KIA boys were driving those cars, lmao.
I'd be the next to laugh. After I shoot them all with my AR-15s.
@Phillip Banes yeah it's people like this that raise these worthless brats
Here in Australia, a certain series of Holden Commodores were very easy to steal, so someone created a product called Full Metal Jacket that encased the ignition switch.
The old VN jacket ?
My dad had a 5.0 clubby and I remember him being super proud in like maybe 2000? For getting it installed to stop people stealing them ahaha.
Yeah, a friend's VL was stolen by smashing the cylinder off to achieve a similar result as this video.
The difference is that even Holden, who the bourgeois class think to be a low brow brand for unsophisticated bogans, have had smart keys for ~25years now :/
While it's not necessarily illegal that Kia did this, it was a silly move. They made a bad decision based on cost and now its affecting their customers en-mass!
They used to be sold in Brazil (imported from Australia) rebadged as "Chevrolet Omega" from 1998 until 2012 - no V8, V6 only. I miss these guys.😢 We never had a widely known issue related to it in here.
Holden cars are fast
@@knrz2562 yes, especially the Holden tudix model!!
These kids couldn’t wait for GTA 6 so they decided to make they own
How about doing illegal street racing while waiting for NFS Unbound?
@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404 😂You ain’t winning any races in Gurdy there.
This happened two times to my Hyundai Accent this year. For those that experienced thefts needs to come together to file a class action lawsuit against platforms that supports these challenging videos.
I think TikTok should be sued. These videos are still out there.
@@LeafyGwtik tok needs to be banned everywhere. The amount of negative influence that comes from that app is astronomical.
I agree with you
There’s a lawsuit now.. and you get more money if ur car was stolen and especially totaled.. won’t see anything from it until mid 2024 though..
@@LeafyGw100% agree. All social media platforms allowing any videos like this should be sued also and taken down.. but the damage is done. Kids know how to do this now.
R&D engineer here and this is really simple: the designers aren’t car people.
Worked at a supplier for a while and not many R&D engineers there were into the product we were supplying too (can’t give too much info but let’s just say what we made propelled the vehicle in question).
Yo I’d like to agree with you that “the designers aren’t car people” but Hyundai and Kia bought up a ton of bmw engineers and designers to design their cars over the last decade. So they had a ton of quality talent that absolutely 100% should have known better. They designed the cheapest car they could for every markets laws. A Canadian 2019 sonata can’t be stolen like a US one (immobilizers are mandated there) so they absolutely knew what they were doing
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