Some of my favorite parts of the outlander story is the relationship Jamie has with his children, portrayed beautifully by Sam. The depth of the storyline in the books and in the TV series is so beautifully told by the writers and actors.
The best part is just relationship with all of his sons., starting with Ian and Fergus, then the blip with Roger and Brianna, to the still unresolved issue with William.
For those saying that William is Brianna’s only sibling and that they are Jamie’s only (living) children, I want to remind you that Fergus is Brianna and William’s actual brother too, through adoption, but their brother nonetheless. Jamie and Claire have always considered Fergus their son and they formally adopted him, so he is as much Brianna’s big brother as her half-brother young William. This doesn’t take away from this special moment of Brianna learning about her little brother that she might be able to find in a book in her time, but I wanted to remind everyone they have another sibling too.
Well, the point of this scene was when Jamie said, "I wanted you to ken there is more of your blood in this world than me and your mother." So they're strictly talking about blood relations here. But yes, it has been very firmly established in this show that adoptive parent/child bonds are just as strong as if not stronger than blood relation bonds. Claire was raised by her uncle. Roger was raised by his great uncle. Brianna was raised by Frank. Ian and Fergus are sons to Jamie. Marsali and Joan are daughters. Claire considered Roger family even before Brianna did. And there's even a scene in this episode that makes it clear that Brianna considers Fergus and Marsali to be her siblings. But practically William is more Lord John's son than Jamie's, even though Lord John is just his uncle by marriage, so I think it's a stretch to say William is a sibling to Fergus or Marsali, but he does share blood with Brianna as a half-sibling and with Ian as a cousin. So taking into account everyone that they love as their own children, not just blood, Jamie and Claire have 8 kids. Fergus, Faith, Brianna, William, Marsali, Joan, Roger, and Ian. Granted, Claire doesn't have much of a bond with William or Joan, but the fact that Jamie does is enough for her to at least have a tenderness for them. And yes, I still count Faith even though she's dead.
Yes I much more enjoy Brianna with her dad scenes (both Jamie and Frank) over her and Roger. To me, I don’t see much chemistry between them but you can see the sincere and tender caring between her, Frank, and Jamie.
I really wanna see grown up william in the show. I know a lot of people dont like him in the books but im loving his journey, he is becoming a better person and coming to grips with his identity and values, and im finding that very interesting, even if he is a dipshit sometimes.
Oh, I like poor William. He's thrown into such a quandry. He's handsome (how could he not be with Jamie as a father), young, strong, and honorable. They can't leave him out of future shows because he becomes an important underlying storyline. I like how young Ian (in Indian persona) comes across William by accident and knows instantly who he must be because he looks just like Jamie and Brianna (except the hair is chestnut instead of red),😁but goes along pretending he doesn't know, yet pops up all the time to help him (or needing his help).
@@9401maru Oh, he's a bit of a derp. Falls in love with every female he comes across, but then he's young. Some young men do that. Have you heard yet that Jamie gets reported as dead, and what happens because of it?
He said our choice even though yes she blackmailed him, he made a choice to do it cause he didn't want to go back to prison and mainly for the safety of his family cause she knew where his home was so that is why he said it was our choice
I always put it down to him not wanting Claire and Brianna to know he was blackmailed/forced because it would make them think less of him or he thought it wasn't something they should be told because of attitudes at that time that women should be kept from certain things or knowing about certain things.
@@celticprincess2002I think it's because he doesn't want people to think less of Geneva. No one would think less of him because of it, but it would make his son's mother look bad and he's not the type to do that
Yes the Jamie and Bree scenes are the best. They deleted one from season 5 I think. The producers dont understand that we fans want longer episodes not shorter.
I was truly shocked and feel it is a real mistake to make Claire become addicted to ether in the 1st episode of Season 6. She is simply not that self-destructive and it seems like a real wrong turn for the story, I'm sorry Gabalon felt the need to do this.
I agree she has been through so much in her life. She is strong. This makes her seem weak. Ppl love her because she is so strong and can overcome anything plus her family needs her
Diana Gabaldon, the book author, has nothing to do with how the shows are written. She's made this clear - the producers will run things by her and ask her opinion, she has no control over their final decisions. But I agree, I don't care for the ether story line. Claire is reckless, but she was careful in her surgery and knew the dangers of ether being so flammable. Taking it alone and leaving lit candles - not something she would do .Drinking herself into a stupor is more Claire-like.
Haven't seen the latest episodes. But in the novels Brianna & Roger's 2nd child is a daughter w a heart murmur. They return to the future to get her medical care.
I think the question is referring to the first time they left and it was because they just felt like they needed to go back to their time especially after Roger's ordeal and with the war. They discussed it with Claire and Jamie and it was pretty much decided that they WOULD BE SAFER IN THEIR own time with all of the wars coming. When they got to leave, it didn't work because they were thinking of home but not the home they left in the future but the home there they have become a part of on the ridge.
This was the lead up to that time. As a spoiler, the second time they try it works. This first time they concentrated on going home, but were still thinking of the Ridge as home, so that's where they went!
and if she ended up actually marrying John Grey she would have been both his brother and his mom :O :O :O *the Greek playwrights have entered the chat*
@Nikki Horn : Claire can hear the stones hence Brianna can hear them because she's her biological daughter (and Jamie's of course), Jamie CANNOT hear the stones hence William cannot hear them, because he's biological son !! .
Es mala actriz pero Sam salva la escena el está sublime ella no tanto siempre hace la misma cara ,es como plana no me trasmite emociones lo siento es lo que me trasmite está actriz y otros actores de renombre no me llegan y veo mucho cine y series y como Sam y Cait hace tiempo que no veía son mágicos te hacen soñar y esto es lo que tiene que transmitir el séptimo arte ,chapó por ellos juntos son invencibles para cuando una peli juntos ahora tenéis el poder aprovecharlo juntos an nacido para esto son imanes y almas gemelas cuesta tanto encontrar esto ,saludos
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No entiendo que a Claire se lo dijera nada más verse y reponerse del desmayo y a Brianna tarde tanto tiempo en contarle que tiene otro hijo.
So sad that this very meh scene was made instead of the 1000000x better was she finds out at the end of book 6. I cannt stress how sad and degrading to a show it is when a show based on a book decides replace what happens which a scene that is significantly less good or powerful. A detrayal even. Just for a quick scene that really doesn't stand out of matter that much, compared to something mattering significantly more if done properly
Diana Gabaldon wrote this scene and this episode. Yes it differs from how Brianna finds out in the books but in the books Brianna sees William and notices that he is a younger version of Jamie. Finding a young actor who looks a great deal like Sam to be a younger version of Jamie/Sam is a tall order. IMO the actor cast as young adult William does not look at all like Sam plus he is 3 inches shorter.
@@sulleys1929 i know it was written by her, that however, doesnt mean she made the decision. she likely was told to include that, and salvaged it the best she could. ultimetly the showrunners make such decisions on the show. Dianna writes things for a reason, so i doubt she would have changed it if she could
@@samanthab1923 ...... Because of Roger's experience with the war, and the fact that more wars are coming, no antibiotics to fight a simple infectious scratch, just the things that were not available in that time Era.
Acá Diana tiene toda la culpa que briana le saque a sam a cler y que al comenzar la cerie ella y toda la familia con colon a la cabeza querían a briana y el bobo de sam no hizo nada x q.y briana es mala.😮😮😮😮
Wow you can't yell at a show for spoiling something when they are 6 seasons in. This is something that viewers have known for some time maybe if you see something outlander related scroll past it.
Je trouve qu autant les premières séries en écosse avaient du charme autant les suivantes rien à voir...et sans parler des absurdités diverses, comment Claire peut elle faire un sketches à Jamie pour s être remarié alors qu'elle avait repris ses pantoufles auprès de son mari, descendant de celui qui a battu à mort et viole son amour qui s est sacrifie pour elle alors qu elle l à trompé et fait toute une histoire d un viol certes odieux mais moins pire que ce qu il a vécu Beaucoup de Blabla un début romantique une fin pathetique
No se quien hizo el castings de hacer de hija de Sam y Cait con ellos tan bellos y con esos ojos tan azules y la que ace de su hija es bastante parda y el pelo es teñido vale pero sus ojos por wl amor de Dios no cuela como su hija ,despedir al que hace los castings porque es mala eleccion es peor como interpreta ,lo siento por ella pero deja mucho que desear y me duele porque es su trabajo pero lo mismo pienso de muchos actores sobre valorados
She threatened his family if he did no go through with it. It was watered down in the show. She had a letter from his sister discussing giving aid to Jacobites, enemies of the crown. He and his whole family could have been executed and the family estate taken away. He told her to pick a time she wouldn't get with child. Obviously he was wrong about the timing OR she didn't care. She only had 3 days before the wedding.
I own a house like this. My awesome came in from the country and screamed at my husband about taking Velvet dress and lawn dresses overseas. It us about to change hands to me. My concern is a truck. My country pays for it but I don't know if they take over the payment of the lease like the taxes because I have a lease I could get. Git my cops a fleet and they are making them now, the cars. There's a salary and it has something to do with doing farming in the house. I just don't know if it is just for yhe summer or mine because my uncle had a salary and retired from young life. These are our manors or estates. Earned my country back lost a husband in the next couple of days. Don't know what to think. Can't talk to a band that came for me with a cop making me go inside a building l. Attested by your country as the government head feels like this. This endless pain where you transfer to another country or you to your Lans. It feels like an endless night.
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Some of my favorite parts of the outlander story is the relationship Jamie has with his children, portrayed beautifully by Sam. The depth of the storyline in the books and in the TV series is so beautifully told by the writers and actors.
The best part is just relationship with all of his sons., starting with Ian and Fergus, then the blip with Roger and Brianna, to the still unresolved issue with William.
For those saying that William is Brianna’s only sibling and that they are Jamie’s only (living) children, I want to remind you that Fergus is Brianna and William’s actual brother too, through adoption, but their brother nonetheless. Jamie and Claire have always considered Fergus their son and they formally adopted him, so he is as much Brianna’s big brother as her half-brother young William. This doesn’t take away from this special moment of Brianna learning about her little brother that she might be able to find in a book in her time, but I wanted to remind everyone they have another sibling too.
Well, the point of this scene was when Jamie said, "I wanted you to ken there is more of your blood in this world than me and your mother." So they're strictly talking about blood relations here.
But yes, it has been very firmly established in this show that adoptive parent/child bonds are just as strong as if not stronger than blood relation bonds. Claire was raised by her uncle. Roger was raised by his great uncle. Brianna was raised by Frank. Ian and Fergus are sons to Jamie. Marsali and Joan are daughters. Claire considered Roger family even before Brianna did. And there's even a scene in this episode that makes it clear that Brianna considers Fergus and Marsali to be her siblings. But practically William is more Lord John's son than Jamie's, even though Lord John is just his uncle by marriage, so I think it's a stretch to say William is a sibling to Fergus or Marsali, but he does share blood with Brianna as a half-sibling and with Ian as a cousin.
So taking into account everyone that they love as their own children, not just blood, Jamie and Claire have 8 kids. Fergus, Faith, Brianna, William, Marsali, Joan, Roger, and Ian. Granted, Claire doesn't have much of a bond with William or Joan, but the fact that Jamie does is enough for her to at least have a tenderness for them. And yes, I still count Faith even though she's dead.
Could you imagine the confusion at 23 & me looking at Bri’s bloodwork …
😂😂
Bree's blood work? Jemmy's would be impossible! Bree and Roger are also cousins 6 times removed!
@@maestroclassico5801 I doubt the blood work would show that much detail, just that they're distantly related.
@@shootingcomet082 True. It would show a distant relation but it probably wouldnt spell out...cousin 5-6 times removed!
Can you imagine if Bri had married lord John?? Sister and step mother all at once
Sophie's best scenes are with Sam. I love this scene one of my favorites as is the scene when they first meet! So well acted! It was perfect!
It's the father-daughter scenes with Jamie and Brianna I like most!
Same
Especially after her SA, I loved how he taught her that it wasn’t and could never be her fault.
I know when they first met and she said I’m your daughter I just wept
Yes I much more enjoy Brianna with her dad scenes (both Jamie and Frank) over her and Roger. To me, I don’t see much chemistry between them but you can see the sincere and tender caring between her, Frank, and Jamie.
@@brooklynbutter5357 I agree with you they don’t have that connection that Clair and Jamie have
I really wanna see grown up william in the show. I know a lot of people dont like him in the books but im loving his journey, he is becoming a better person and coming to grips with his identity and values, and im finding that very interesting, even if he is a dipshit sometimes.
Oh, I like poor William. He's thrown into such a quandry. He's handsome (how could he not be with Jamie as a father), young, strong, and honorable. They can't leave him out of future shows because he becomes an important underlying storyline.
I like how young Ian (in Indian persona) comes across William by accident and knows instantly who he must be because he looks just like Jamie and Brianna (except the hair is chestnut instead of red),😁but goes along pretending he doesn't know, yet pops up all the time to help him (or needing his help).
@@Blue-rl5dp agreed!
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Thanx for the spoiler!
@@Blue-rl5dp I think the previous thanks were ironic, but I do thank you and want more of those! Tell me more about grown up William, please!
@@9401maru Oh, he's a bit of a derp. Falls in love with every female he comes across, but then he's young. Some young men do that.
Have you heard yet that Jamie gets reported as dead, and what happens because of it?
Such a beautifully touching scene.
Yes Very ~
Sadly significantly less so than the real scene tbat was omitted. :-(
@@therecalcitrantseditionist3613 Sorry, I don't know that scene. From the book? If so, which chapter?
i love them so much, we need more bree and jamie scenes
I wonder when Jamie and Clare pass, if they’ll be handed Faith? Diana has said we’d be “smiling thru tears” at what she has planned.
I WANT MORE SCENE BETWEEN THIS TWO PLEASE !!!
Jamie has a huge heart. I’m so glad he got to know his family. He deserved all happiness.
Why did jamie say it has been their choice? He was forced/blackmailed to. He never told that anybody.
He said it was her choice. Not theirs.
He said "it was our choice" sounds a bit confusing but subtitles also say that
He said our choice even though yes she blackmailed him, he made a choice to do it cause he didn't want to go back to prison and mainly for the safety of his family cause she knew where his home was so that is why he said it was our choice
I always put it down to him not wanting Claire and Brianna to know he was blackmailed/forced because it would make them think less of him or he thought it wasn't something they should be told because of attitudes at that time that women should be kept from certain things or knowing about certain things.
@@celticprincess2002I think it's because he doesn't want people to think less of Geneva. No one would think less of him because of it, but it would make his son's mother look bad and he's not the type to do that
So moving! Great actors, great tv show! 🏆👍
Jamie..always thankful
Brilliant acting!! I cried
The cat 🐈⬛ was like : Nnnoo lol
Yes the Jamie and Bree scenes are the best. They deleted one from season 5 I think. The producers dont understand that we fans want longer episodes not shorter.
I want more of them together.
A bit softer on her father than she was on her mother.
Oh for real.
I was truly shocked and feel it is a real mistake to make Claire become addicted to ether in the 1st episode of Season 6. She is simply not that self-destructive and it seems like a real wrong turn for the story, I'm sorry Gabalon felt the need to do this.
I agree she has been through so much in her life. She is strong. This makes her seem weak. Ppl love her because she is so strong and can overcome anything plus her family needs her
Diana Gabaldon, the book author, has nothing to do with how the shows are written. She's made this clear - the producers will run things by her and ask her opinion, she has no control over their final decisions. But I agree, I don't care for the ether story line. Claire is reckless, but she was careful in her surgery and knew the dangers of ether being so flammable. Taking it alone and leaving lit candles - not something she would do .Drinking herself into a stupor is more Claire-like.
Let the show do as they please.
Of course they are the authors I just think they did not really keep the character intact with this decision Of course this is only my opinion
Wait..what??? Unbelievable! But this is exactly why I had to stop watching the tv show. I bet Ms. Gabaldon was furious about that.
I don't like the way Jamie always says "when your mother left" ummmm dude YOU MADE HER LEAVE lol
Men are still men. Even the king of men like Jamie.
She left, he's just stating a fact, he wasn't saying it was his fault or her fault. The fact that she left is just a fact.
@@Stardust_7273 exactly, his voice is totally full of love for Claire and Bri, the truth is she had to go
@@Stardust_7273 ....
Yes.....
@@lindatimmons3675 I was just agreeing with someone 🤷🏻♀️ Is that not allowed?
Okay, who’s cutting onions around here??!!
Coming into Season 7, Bree meets her Brother.
I don't understand why they leave
Haven't seen the latest episodes. But in the novels Brianna & Roger's 2nd child is a daughter w a heart murmur. They return to the future to get her medical care.
I think the question is referring to the first time they left and it was because they just felt like they needed to go back to their time especially after Roger's ordeal and with the war. They discussed it with Claire and Jamie and it was pretty much decided that they WOULD BE SAFER IN THEIR own time with all of the wars coming.
When they got to leave, it didn't work because they were thinking of home but not the home they left in the future but the home there they have become a part of on the ridge.
They don’t leave.
@@launabanauna8958 ......
Not that first time but later they will have too for the health of the daughter Mandy.
I don't understand why they couldn't leave.
Wait could they even leave because the last time they tried to leave it did not work?
It was because they didn't truly want to leave. Claire was subconsciously trying to escape her life so she was able to travel.
This was the lead up to that time. As a spoiler, the second time they try it works. This first time they concentrated on going home, but were still thinking of the Ridge as home, so that's where they went!
So are they home in their own time yet?
This was from last season
@@PaganSkye Yes. Trying to make it clear but not doing a great job of it. 🙃
Could you imagine if Bree and John Grey married she would’ve been her bother’s mother. Yikes
I missed them talking about faith
and if she ended up actually marrying John Grey she would have been both his brother and his mom :O :O :O
*the Greek playwrights have entered the chat*
I wonder if William could hear the stones?
No
@Nikki Horn : Claire can hear the stones hence Brianna can hear them because she's her biological daughter (and Jamie's of course), Jamie CANNOT hear the stones hence William cannot hear them, because he's biological son !! .
Doubtful--he's not a biological relation to Claire since he's only from Jamie's side of the family and Jamie can't hear the stones.
Doubtful.....Not sure if it's an inherited trait or not....
@@EyeGlassTrainofMind I was wondering about Roger put he's a direct descendant of Gillian/Geillis...maybe he inherited it from her.
Anyone els realize there’s a cant in the window . No just me ok
Adso. He said Meow 😊
Can you not put spoilers in the title please?
this was from last season lmao
This was last season
What episode is this?
Y'all with do anything but release the show
I know. Such a pain
Some daughters can just never forgive one’s past .
Some daughters , can’t admit , there farther’s had a checkered past , which they may not like , but it’s way in the past before they where born .
Sam has certainly aged doing this part. Doubt even he could hang in long enough to finish the books.
Really good scene
Quel épisode entre un père et sa fille très prenant Bree est très compréhensive c'est beau 😍❤️
Il y a des possibilités que Brianna rencontre son frère William Ransom, dans les saisons 7 ou 8.
Es mala actriz pero Sam salva la escena el está sublime ella no tanto siempre hace la misma cara ,es como plana no me trasmite emociones lo siento es lo que me trasmite está actriz y otros actores de renombre no me llegan y veo mucho cine y series y como Sam y Cait hace tiempo que no veía son mágicos te hacen soñar y esto es lo que tiene que transmitir el séptimo arte ,chapó por ellos juntos son invencibles para cuando una peli juntos ahora tenéis el poder aprovecharlo juntos an nacido para esto son imanes y almas gemelas cuesta tanto encontrar esto ,saludos
No entiendo que a Claire se lo dijera nada más verse y reponerse del desmayo y a Brianna tarde tanto tiempo en contarle que tiene otro hijo.
So sad that this very meh scene was made instead of the 1000000x better was she finds out at the end of book 6. I cannt stress how sad and degrading to a show it is when a show based on a book decides replace what happens which a scene that is significantly less good or powerful. A detrayal even. Just for a quick scene that really doesn't stand out of matter that much, compared to something mattering significantly more if done properly
Diana Gabaldon wrote this scene and this episode. Yes it differs from how Brianna finds out in the books but in the books Brianna sees William and notices that he is a younger version of Jamie. Finding a young actor who looks a great deal like Sam to be a younger version of Jamie/Sam is a tall order. IMO the actor cast as young adult William does not look at all like Sam plus he is 3 inches shorter.
@@sulleys1929 i know it was written by her, that however, doesnt mean she made the decision. she likely was told to include that, and salvaged it the best she could. ultimetly the showrunners make such decisions on the show. Dianna writes things for a reason, so i doubt she would have changed it if she could
For me, Jamie and Claire being there for Jemmy's birth was such an important bonding scene to skip.
......she also has siblings from Laoighire (or however the fek you spell it)
Esta cena é muito linda ♥️
Not super happy about the spoiler in the title.
Geneva did love Jamie.
No she didn't
@@kirstenleah84 Geneva did. Her sister told Jamie that the night she died
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*died
@@launabanauna8958 thank I correct my misspelling.
@@mskimberly.jones1114 I think it was lust not love.
Why is she leaving?
She didn't, this is from last season, as you can see in this season, she and Roger decided to stay
@@kcktodd303 I saw that they stayed. Why were they thinking of leaving?
@@samanthab1923 ......
Because of Roger's experience with the war, and the fact that more wars are coming, no antibiotics to fight a simple infectious scratch, just the things that were not available in that time Era.
@@lindatimmons3675 But then they stay?
@@samanthab1923 Yes, because they realise that in their time they didn't have ANY family !! .
Acá Diana tiene toda la culpa que briana le saque a sam a cler y que al comenzar la cerie ella y toda la familia con colon a la cabeza querían a briana y el bobo de sam no hizo nada x q.y briana es mala.😮😮😮😮
just started watching season 2 well done for the spoil
Wow you can't yell at a show for spoiling something when they are 6 seasons in. This is something that viewers have known for some time maybe if you see something outlander related scroll past it.
Haha nice try dude. It's not their fault you are so behind.
Why are you watching clips of Outlander if you are not up to speed you muppet?! Don't blame other people for your own silly behaviour.
You have a ways to go to catch up 😚😊
Je trouve qu autant les premières séries en écosse avaient du charme autant les suivantes rien à voir...et sans parler des absurdités diverses, comment Claire peut elle faire un sketches à Jamie pour s être remarié alors qu'elle avait repris ses pantoufles auprès de son mari, descendant de celui qui a battu à mort et viole son amour qui s est sacrifie pour elle alors qu elle l à trompé et fait toute une histoire d un viol certes odieux mais moins pire que ce qu il a vécu
Beaucoup de Blabla un début romantique une fin pathetique
Pienso lo mismo y mucho más pero la escritora lo escribió así hay cosas muy absurdas pero es ficción
Brianna looks distressed when she shouldn’t alot
No se quien hizo el castings de hacer de hija de Sam y Cait con ellos tan bellos y con esos ojos tan azules y la que ace de su hija es bastante parda y el pelo es teñido vale pero sus ojos por wl amor de Dios no cuela como su hija ,despedir al que hace los castings porque es mala eleccion es peor como interpreta ,lo siento por ella pero deja mucho que desear y me duele porque es su trabajo pero lo mismo pienso de muchos actores sobre valorados
The new season is so boring so far...
It may have been "her choice" but you chose to go through with it, didn't you? Plus, you didn't have to get her pregnant. 🤨
She threatened his family if he did no go through with it. It was watered down in the show. She had a letter from his sister discussing giving aid to Jacobites, enemies of the crown. He and his whole family could have been executed and the family estate taken away. He told her to pick a time she wouldn't get with child. Obviously he was wrong about the timing OR she didn't care. She only had 3 days before the wedding.
I own a house like this. My awesome came in from the country and screamed at my husband about taking Velvet dress and lawn dresses overseas. It us about to change hands to me. My concern is a truck. My country pays for it but I don't know if they take over the payment of the lease like the taxes because I have a lease I could get. Git my cops a fleet and they are making them now, the cars. There's a salary and it has something to do with doing farming in the house. I just don't know if it is just for yhe summer or mine because my uncle had a salary and retired from young life. These are our manors or estates. Earned my country back lost a husband in the next couple of days. Don't know what to think. Can't talk to a band that came for me with a cop making me go inside a building l. Attested by your country as the government head feels like this. This endless pain where you transfer to another country or you to your Lans. It feels like an endless night.
This is gibberish...
I’m so hooked to this show!! Sam is so Handsome!!