Check out www.sense.org.uk/ to support deaf-blind people in need this Christmas. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - 1st November 9th 34:57 - 2nd November 9th 43:32 - 3rd November 9th 55:16 - 4th November 9th 1:04:13 - 5th November 9th 1:22:09 - 6th November 9th
Unaware that there was multiple books, I thought these timestamps were a joke about how long the book dragged on- anywho, thankful for the content as always!
Don't know if your still asking for help for erotic parody concepts but have you looked into shifter stories? I may or may not be leaning on calling myself a furry but for whatever reason I've been checking out badly written shifter audiobooks. A few once in a blue moon are actually decent and for some reason it feels like it only pertains to bear shifters stories though that might just be my bias. Anyways with the exception of those a good number of them tend to read like bad erotic fanfictions written by either incels covering up who they are with a woman's name as an alias or a sheltered horny middle aged Karens. Check some out for inspiration. Lycanthropy is wide spectrum for things besides wolves and bears so maybe make the guy something that's ironically not associated to the tough male were-beasts of the shifter-verse like a rat, pigeon, or a donkey. If shifters don't seem like your cup of tea then maybe comedic erotic parody something that's already got a goofy popular erotic parodies like pirates of the Caribbean, star trek, or Tarzan.
@@quinnzykir what do you mean? Bojack's family history and their generational trauma is like the core of the story and the best part of the show. Time's an Arrow, Free Churro, his relationship with his sister... did you give up on season 4?
Actually, this book is YA. As were most of her books. Only recently have the been marketed as New Adult. I was given her book Hopeless in middle school. It scarred me.
I think calling something adult targeted makes it even more marketable to teenagers, for example Attack on Titan which was written almost exclusively to teenagers
Everybody needs an editor to absolutely tear your work to pieces. If you havnt had that done already then do it. I got into writing initially through doing translations (you dont actually even need to know a language that well if you are translating them into English or your native language). Then eith the contacts and goodwill you get doing that you can move in. Consider it.
I COULDNT BELIEVE WHEN SHE WROTE "why would a girl care to find herself when she will never be able to make herself feel as good as a guy can" WHATTTTTTTTT I HAD TO REWIND LIKE WHATTTTTT
Ugh, why does she hate women so much 🤦♀️ and for what? These rapey, emotionally unavailable, supposedly sexy, manipulative, shallow, male characters. Get lost
It's honestly such a pet peeve of mine when people tell you to forgive family members for being abusive because "blood is thicker than water". The only reason you talk to your family is because you're tied to them by blood. Think about it for a minute, if you weren't family would you be friends with them? If the answer is no then don't force yourself to be around them.
@@nostradamus1162 this longer version of the quote is sadly entirely made up. the original comes from a german author from like 1 thousand years ago Edit: As many of you guys have rightfully stated, both quotes are technically made up. My point originally was that many people think the longer quote came before the shorter one. People think it got shortened afterwards to give it a different meaning. But as many people have stated, the longer quote is most likely an interpretation of the shorter one. The earliest original quote I have found is from a German poet „Blut ist dicker als Wasser.“, but another person has said that it was first found in the Bible, but I am still mot sure. Sorry for any confusion!
seeing her get so popular has been irritating because people are genuinely seeing these relationships as goals somehow,, "i want a man from a coho book" i want you to get help mentally
There are way too many mechanics I guess because some people want to fix ryle(an abuser) so idk what to say about coho readers other than they can't fix anyone and they need to shut up
"Show him the respect he showed you." WHAT RESPECT Also the "plot twist" of ben having been the one that burned her just makes his obsession with her scars more icky than it already was. AND when he said "it's your own fault people feel uncomfortable looking at you," like ???? you did it???
Eww wtf?? He burned her and then fetishised the scars he caused, like it was his handiwork and he was proud of it?? This is an actual psychopath thriller, just pretending to be romance.
No but his behaviour is 100% giving killers and rapists returning to the scene of the crime fantasising about the crime. Like reminiscing it. Its absolutely disgusting.
@@AmyAberrant If he WAS a serial killer who delighted in the scars he caused while obsessing over Fallon (and it was treated as obsession and not a "tee hee crush"), Ben might actually be a good character. At least he would be creepy in a fun way instead of this perverted stalker whose actions and internal monologue make me want to vomit and hide.
the part where he blames fallon really seems like he's trying to make himself feel better about being the reason behind her intense insecurities. he thinks he's not guilty that he caused the scars if she's the one making herself feel insecure, and it's GROSS
Whats so funny about this is that I was going through my wattpad library the other day (I hadn’t logged on in years) and I saw a colleen hoover book in there!
I hate this so much, that if men want to sleep with you, means you shouln't feel insecure. I always remember a fake Adriana Lima quote "It's flattering knowing men desire me. But then I remember a man would also have sex with a McChicken. So I don't let it get to my head,"
How that should have gone: “This is the dress I want to wear.” “And this is the one I want you to wear.” “But I chose this one.” “And i’m the one paying to so I get to choose what I look at while we eat.” “And there’s the door.”
the fact that Colleen makes it a point to say 18-19 is the same as a full grown adult so many times is really indicative of her views and character lol
knowing that he is the one who started the fire, it feels like his creepy obsession with her scars and where they are and how much of her body they cover, comes off as though he wants to see where he "marked" her or the extent of his impact on her, which is just fucking gross
That shit about her virginity being a gift for him made me want to throw up. Also reminded me of the guy I ended up for my first time ever at the ripe old age of 20. I hadn't felt like letting anyone get that close to me until then, and this dude, who I was totally in love with, still made me cringe with saying something like "I'm glad you've been saving yourself for me". Like wtf, no. That is absolutely not it. Stupid purity culture.
The shudders that just went through my body bc I remember I talked to a guy and he asked if I’d ever slept with anyone. When I said yes, he got upset bc I hadn’t lost my V to HIM SPECIFICALLY. Never blocked someone so fast in my entire life
@@rizzobeloved i rly do not get this fixation so many men have on women virginity or how many partners shes had before, like guys wanting virgins is weird to me bc I imagine sex with someone inexperienced wouldn't be as good? I also don't understand the aversion to women who have had many partners before, especially if the man just wants to hook up not date or anything. my best guess is its a control thing, they want someone inexperienced so they can be more dominant and in control of the woman. or they want to claim some kind of ownership over her and they cant do that if someone else had sex with her before. idk
@@BlisaBLisa They want virgins because then its easier to manipulate. Virgins don't have experience and men who're insecure and suck in bed want these women so that she'll think it's normal and this is how sex should be
If I found out a guy I’m with disfigured me, almost killed me, ruined my career, and BURNED DOWN MY HOUSE a restraining order wouldn’t be enough! I’d need him arrested & put in jail for arson or idk something! Like between the fire starting, stalking, and assault Ben is a menace&danger to society. He needs some legal repercussions&therapy P.S. Any Hoover fans making excuses for him ALSO need therapy
At my job (bookstore) we have a table dedicated to Colleen Hoover's books- partly because she has so damn many of them and we can't fit them all on the shelf, and partly because she's insanely popular on TikTok and it just makes it easier for us to point at the display. But I cannot tell you how many times my coworkers have had to advise parents of, like, *twelve year-olds* about the contents of these books because their kids are begging for them. They are marketed as Romance (i.e. adult, so probably has adult sexual content in it!) but people assume that because it's on TikTok it must be appropriate for children.
yes!!! i work at a bookstore too and it genuinely makes me so sad seeing super young (12 YEAR OLDS!!) girls buying her books, i've tried warning them about the themes explored but if they're without parents then they're impossible to convince ..... i've pretty much given up and it's sad bc she pretty much rules over every table in out store
@@stillbejulesed don't give up! kids rarely listen at first, but I know from experience that ideas get planted and can grow later on. Keep telling them that this is not a healthy romance, and at least some of them will value that knowledge later.
@@fionamclary7631 The thing is that "BookTok" recommendations are (if I had to estimate) maybe 65% Young Adult and 35% Adult (primarily romance and sci-fi/fantasy). You have parents who see their twelve year-olds reading, IDK, the Lunar Chronicles or the Selection (firmly YA, nothing that you wouldn't find in a Marvel movie- tamer than that, even) and probably loads of other reasonably appropriate YA novels because they or their friends saw it on TikTok. So when the kid says "TikTok says that Colleen Hoover's good" the parents will probably assume it's YA and will therefore be reasonably appropriate for a middle-schooler, because everything else (that they're aware of, anyway) from TikTok has been as well. The kids themselves may not even realize that they're picking up an adult romance book depending on how they got the recommendation. We've had at least a couple of parents get mad at us over this, and frankly it's ridiculous. If I got something that was not from the kids/teen section when I was a kid, my parents at least glanced over the summaries to make sure they weren't grossly inappropriate before buying them. You can't *not* monitor what your kid is reading and then get mad at us when *you* buy it for them without checking it out first.
Their whole first meeting is so cringe to me. If some stranger just inserted themselves into my private conversation and touched me without permission I would absolutely lose my shit. Also that whole thing with her doing her detective thing really just made me think that Colleen Hoover was really into Sherlock while she was writing this. Side note, _On Writing_ is my favourite book and I was very excited to hear it mentioned.
I love my personal space, anyone who invaded that without knowing me is an automatic danger in my mind, I don’t get why romance novels always make it seem so romantic because it never is, it’s creepy
Also, him saying “thank you for this gift” before going inside her is the least sexy thing I’ve ever heard. If that happened to me on my first time I’d be put off sex for years💀
Same! I didn’t even think of myself as an adult AS a 19 year old. I barely do now as a 28 year old. Don’t know what these characters and CH are smoking.
Aside from her controversies her writing is just terrible, insufferable, and corny. all the way down to the names of the characters. I might’ve liked her work when I was a preteen, but thank god I wasn’t given the chance to because I would have found it romantic.
The category for coho enjoyers being "people who skipped the wattpad phase and are having it now" feels right bc tho I've never read a coho book the reviews I see feels so similar to fanfics I would read when I was 13 and now I don't dare breathing close to them again
as rough as my wattpad phase was, im kind of glad i had it when i did, because now im older and know better. i cannot imagine having a phase like that as an adult.
Caleb was the only person on youtube I found back then who had a similar opinion as me on November 9, I read it back in 2018 and seeing all the positive reviews shocked me to my core because that book was horrendous
Bro I have sh scars and I’d rather die alone than have my boyfriend talk about how beautiful they are all the time. Like just acknowledge they exist and move on pls don’t focus on them, I will spiral
Yes!!! Especially if it’s something you did years ago and have recovered and moved on from it. I would not be in a good mood if someone kept brining up my scars and calling them beautiful because my mental state when I did them was far from beautiful
ESPECIALLY sexualizing the scars..like ew? Imagining that there’s scars on her chest and that as he mentally undresses her he’s imagining where they’d be. So gross. 😕
Sure, there are people who appreciate comments like this from a partner but this book, like most romance, implies telepathy, instead of actual, healthy communication in a relationship.
same i have sh scars and my bf literally hates them… he says he feels the pain and requests me to seek help. he tries to help me and i always feel so sad when i put him in that position :( whenever i try to explain it’s my coping mechanism he makes me promise not to do it and makes sure i haven’t. not that that’s not bad for him :((( but it helps a lot… i am taking therepy now..
right. these things shouldn’t be seen as ugly, but they shouldn’t be sexualised either (in my opinion). just acknowledge them and feel neutral or indifferent. that’s all i ask.
I can tell what Colleen is going for with this guy when he says "I like the way your skin feels." I have a weird heterochromatic eye (only hetero thing about me, tbh) and I got made fun of for it a lot, but my partner managed to make it feel like a beautiful part of me. Somehow, Colleen's writing is so terrible that she's tainting that experience.
I love things like that in stories, where someone will have an insecurity or an "abnormal" thing, and their partner/love interest is fascinated by it or finds it beautiful, so the fact that Colleen managed to screw up at it upsets me.
I thought you were going to say he wanted to wear her skin like a suit, because I always think of silence of the lambs when someone talks about skin like that. I think I’m interpreting Hoover as horror tbh.
I've got centralised heterochromia myself. Not two different coloured eyes, but both eyes have two colours within them, a different outer ring & a different inner ring
This reminds me of the video that went viral about a month ago, of the guy that called the cops on a girl's dad for making threats to him after he stalked his daughter repeatedly trying to get her to listen to a "love song" he wrote for her. In HIS mind it was romantic, chasing the hard to get girl who just needed to give him a chance to prove his love. In HER mind it was a terrifying experience of turning a guy down repeatedly, just to have him relentlessly stalk her because he was convinced she loved him, she just didn't know it yet. If the video was made by Colleen Hoover, the dad would have sided with the stalker instead of threatening to beat the ever loving sh*t out of him, like a parent should do for their child.
Oh god yeah I remember that situation. It was horrifying that a man so delusional could believe that he’s “giving her a choice” while chasing her. It’s terrifying.
even worse when his dear serenade sounds like the go-to song of a demon that is in charged of dj-ing for the main hall of the deepest level of hell, but in a really really bad way solely. i felt every hair strand on my head disintegrated simultaneously when i heard a 10 second snippet of it. holy.
Sadly every indian movie potrays the exact same story a guy likes a girl he goes to her and tell her he "loves" her like literally the first second they met and when she stalks the hell out of her follow her everywhere and kind of scaring her but all this is pushed under the rug in the Name of "pure love" and after he stalks the hell out of her and threatens to kill himself is she doesn't "accept" him she finally agrees like wtf
50:36 “Coleen Hoover, just give us BDSM, give us some f i l t h, I know you want to” might be the most accurate assessment of smutty contemporary romances I’ve ever heard and I am shellshocked
@@chilling_koala If you’re willing to address it properly, non con is actually a fetish for some people (often abuse victims reclaiming their power apparently?) so she really could have just done that. But why do something remotely sensical right
@@chilling_koala Listen mate idk 🤷🏻♀️ People are weird, apparently it’s about loss of control in a safe and ironically controlled environment, the point shouldn’t be to disrespect rape victims as far as I’m aware but it… sure is something?
I remember back in the day seeing Caleb getting bullied and just torn apart for making the negative review of this book. It’s nice to see him finally getting some vindication
yes literally justice for Caleb like why were people living in some sort of delusional world gaslighting people into thinking obvious red flags weren’t harmful content for young teens
I have _one_ crown, which was to replace a tooth that basically shattered down to the root. The process was hellish and took months to pay off. The idea of replacing all your teeth _for no reason_ just baffles me.
I have a crown on a tooth that's been a pain for a couple decades and was cracking around its old metal filling. The damn thing refused to fully numb during the filing procedure, and I had to just wince through some of it. And with crowns etc., there's always a chance it won't stick, and you'll need a root canal or lose the tooth later. I cannot envision doing something that to multiple teeth that are perfectly fine, especially knowing the veneer/etc. will eventually need replaced even if they work.
If I want to replace my teeth the dentist better give me a whole new set of Xenomorph chompers (without the pharyngeal jaw because I think that's like... A different specialisation altogether lmao).
Maybe it's a new psychological glitch with certain folks. . . I'm not smart enough ( like Alizee, and I'm not simping, I admire her mind-set immensely) You're correct, who t.f. does that to their mouth? Beats me!
Moral of the story: If a man burns your father's car that gives you 3rd degree burns, stalk you, and tries to keep you from leaving, you should just forgive him because "twue wuv 🥺"
@Raven Balcom I think they meant they hate her writing and not her as a person, also there’s nothing wrong with hating a nazi lmao they suck (Also to your most recent reply.. bro relax I’m pretty sure the “proud Hoover hater” thing was a joke… you do know what humour is right?)
I hate that there is sexual assault in every book like this. It's exactly what assault looks like in real life. Man youre involved with corners you and expects you to be turned on by him touching you. Your body responds even though your brain is afraid. He takes it as proof. You take it as proof too because sex ed failed you. But instead of being normalized, it's excused. It's repulsive.
I love these thorough reviews from you. It's about time Colleen Hoover gets her turn. Her books should never have been marketed at young girls in the first place, and they shouldn't be called romance books.
the scene where she finds out he set the fire & is physically restraining her from leaving is genuinely so terrifying. this would b a good plotline if it was written as a horror story and, like u mentioned, a cautionary tale about insta love
her inviting him to her place after that TERRIFYING monologue he just did to her is absolutely insane behavior, has colleen hoover ever interacted with a single human being, ever????? (SIDE NOTE: WHO SAYS PANTIES?????? WHAT????)
"This book normalizes abuse." Yep, that's what I was waiting for, and honestly what I was expecting when you mentioned the other book you had read. Which, honestly, the fact that I was _expecting_ abuse in a book to be cast in a romantic light says a lot about quite a few authors these days... **shudders**
@JulyJuneJanuary the fact that her dad was abusive, her son is a rapist (who she supports), and she was a social worker and still treats these topics the way she does is so pathetic
On ppl saying that coho books are for those that didn't have a wattpad phase... my wattpad phase wasn't this bad... bad boys? sure. fuck boys? sure. but I didn't read about romanticised abuse and wished for my own fucked up romance. it just lacks common sense
Same…that’s why I had problems when reading really bad bully romances. I always kept thinking: “I would never fall in love with someone that treats me this horribly”
what's wack is that a lot of us idiots reading angst or hurt/no comfort as teens absolutely did NOT wish for our own fucked up romances. but then i see people swooning over these terrible books and am so confused bc like... did my friends & i have more awareness as kids than coho stans do as adults?? this is worse than my wattpad phase and i _did_ read awful shit
"you absolute lobotomites' 😂😂😂 perfection. And yes, I'd read smut written by you. You could bang (no pun intended?) a smut novel out in 6 weeks at most and people WOULD read it. Make that paper, girl.
As a man and someone who's hoping to be an author someday, I'm using Colleen Hoover's books as notes on how to NOT write relationships between men and women
It was around 1:35:25 when I realized a significantly better plot would've still started with the fake romance but it would've been someone Fallon already knows helping her- maybe a barista or waiter or something she regularly saw at the restaurant and maybe already liked, whether platonically or as something else. Then said waiter could pretend to be her boyfriend and she'd likely be more comfortable with that since she'd already know him. Ben could still be part of the story but would be the clear antagonist- a desperate, cruel, selfish stalker rather than the love interest. There are so many ways this story could have gone but the more I hear of Colleen Hoover's writing the less surprised I am- I'm just kind of disappointed at this point? Ugh it's all so bad and toxic. No one deserves to read this...
Tbf I'm American and I went an entire year blacked out from drinking and, apparently, occasional pills. It actually made me quit drinking since I ended up nearly dying several times and waking up in either psych wards, the E.R. or strangers' houses/apartments, with no memory of how I got there. I lost my hearing in one ear, got chronic nerve pain at age 21 and ruined like every relationship I had but im not a crippling alcoholic anymore yay
I hope my anonymous youtube trauma dumping was helpful to some ppl lol. I figure being open about it reduces the stigma, and if it gives someone hope for themselves, I was like BAD, chugging a bottle of vodka a day sometimes from age 19-21. Now I don't even crave a drink, but it was hell getting here. Worth sticking it out tho, I promise
@@holysickdivinenights thank you, I really appreciate it, I think addiction is such a shitty disease with stigma so it makes me grateful to see others be open about it
I ended a fairly short term relationship a few weeks ago. Warned him I'd block him if he kept trying to manipulate me.. I blocked him. He turned up at my house, I didn't open the door, just called the cops. Stick to your boundaries, if someone doesn't understand 'no' then they aren't respecting you anyway. Also I broke a tooth and couldn't afford to get it fixed right away so I ended up needing a root canal, and now I need a crown because it's a 'chewing tooth'. Can't afford that either so have gone back to just eating on one side of my mouth. Don't fuck with your teeth.
My biggest issue is that these books were marketed for young women! And the main characters are underaged. I get that dark romance is a thing and adults can explore and make their own decisions, but do not romanticize this for you women 🤬
Oh god the day has finally come, my favourite book critic dissecting the author I most like to see criticised. And THIS book no less, I've never been keener this is going to be a ride! Also I think you've turned me into a masochist because I've found myself itching for updates in your House of Night series, that CANNOT be normal.
The note about women being able to separate sex from romance and having sex for pleasure actually reminds me of a character in the Great Library series by Rachel Caine, who has multiple partners but doesn't see herself as settling down with anyone, and her choice isn't seen as some tragic, heartbreaking thing, it's just a lifestyle she chose for herself.
Tell me Colleen Hoover's husband has never called her beautiful a day in her life without telling me her husband has never called her beautiful.... Or has given her an ounce affection their entire relationship.
honestly yeah, this all kinda reads like the fantasy of someone who wants to be desired, so much so that the guy resorts to being a total creep. a sort of rape fantasy lite
I’ve been waiting on getting a Hoover book until the TikTok phase was over to see how she really is… glad I didn’t waste the money. Also side note, casserole in America is basically a bunch of stuff layered together and baked in a dish. If you look up something like green bean casserole, it shows a good representation of them, but there a ton of different ones that are completely different from each other.
It's definitely a thing here in the midwest, except in Minnesota i think it's called 'hot dish' which i want to love, but can't. it makes me feel filthy even typing those words
also for some reason whenever something bad happens midwest people are just like “a casserole will solve this.” ( my mom got a lot of them during her first divorce. ) the good thing is they’re pretty easy to reheat but the idea of the neighborhood bringing them a bunch of different stews is better imo.
Not even a half hour into this review and this book is already an entire case of Mike's Hard Yikes. Holy hell, there's so many red flags that the world's on the verge of a dye shortage.
Managed to misread the title as 9/11 and wondered why the fuck someone would write a romance book about that, but then, I saw so many weird books already
i wouldn't say all 18 year olds have to be immature brats, but calling yourself "an 18-year-old adult" is a definite red flag on that one lol like, sincerely, I am barely 21 and I could mostly tell you if someone's my age or 18 by their behavior. Always ready to be proven wrong, surely, but damn. The first step of maturity is realizing you're a child. Sincerly, a 21 year old (**AdUlT**)
You're so right. I'm 23 now and already think I'm a lot different than I was when I was 21, but 21 year old me and current me could at least have a conversation on the same intellectual level. 18 year old me??? Completely different story. I know that sounds harsh but thats how it's supposed to be. You're not supposed to be a fully grown adult at 18. Just enjoy being young and stay single and get some fun hobbies... keep it light if you can help it. There's just no way you can have the perspective and literal brain development of a real adult at that age. It doesn't mean youre a kid either, it's just the weird in between stage (18-21/22).
(Slight cw) I was burned when I was 5 so I've been living with scars all over my body for my whole life and seeing Fallon going through what I went through as a kid, it's actually painful. Seeing Ben take advantage of her trauma and fetishize her scars is awful and I think this book just went to one of my most hated.
I have a confession to make. I read It Ends With Us and I loved it. However, I did not have any expectations so the dynamics of the relationship made sense in the context of the story. I then read Ugly Love and I was like 'wtf is this shit?!'. It Ends With Us was, I thought, a smart story of the slow unravelling of an abusive partner/relationship. I didn't realise Hoover throws this behaviour into every male character, in non-abusive relationships. So now I feel embarrassed to have ever proclaimed to like that book. Thank you.
Yeah I think it only work in It End With Us because the abuse is acknowledged as abuse. The problem lies in her other characters having the same abusive behaviours and patterns without it being called out. Instead they're just so passionate and love the MC so much and thus all of their problematic actions are completely fine and forgiveable.
im a model with significant scarring who has modelled for vogue before. when I was a kid, I always wanted a woman in literature who resembled me a little. I am so disgusted by the portal of Fallon's scars and how other people thing/feel about them. if I was a teenager, I could not imagine how I would feel reading this. makes me upset to even think about.
I worked in a library the past three months. I was a cashier. Everytime I saw a teenage girl showing up with one or multiple Coleen Hoover books, a piece of me died inside
The fact that her MOTHER! (HER! MOTHER!) sides with the STALKER WHO CAUSED GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM to her CHILD. Over said Child????? I'm going to lose my mind. How is Coho so popular I am losing my shit.
im just surprised a woman wrote this. i must stop watching at the boobs i cant. colleen should've just published this on wattpad. i read 10 better fanfictions than what you read to me in the first 5 minutes. what is wrong with her??
It reminds me a little of the 'men writing women trope'. Her boobs bounced boobily as she walked through the door, that kinda thing. Except she's writing a man. If I was a man I'd honestly be a little offended lmao.
Casserole is a catch-all term for when you stack foods into a sort of lasagna configuration. You can get green bean casserole and that’s when green beans are in a dish with like crunchy onion bits. You can call just about anything a casserole as long as it’s stacked up in a dish. People tend to throw those in the oven because they’re relatively easy to make. You usually give them to your neighbors if they’re in mourning or otherwise you don’t think they can make food for themselves.
Exactly. It's like the old "frozen dinner" before it was commercialized. It's whatever food in the casserole dish that can be kept and cooked easily enough for anyone going through hardships
I think the key for mourning/hospitalization scenarios is that it can provide you a whole meal without you having to put in any work (if someone has pre-made it for you). You bring a casserole, a bread, and some iced tea, and that's a meal that will keep in the fridge for a week and take almost zero effort to serve.
casseroles are more commonly mixed together before cooking though, rather than stacked (even though some, like lasagna, are stacked). it's sort of like a "one pot meal" kind of thing where everything is mixed, cooked, and stored in one container (the casserole dish). it's kind of the stereotypical nice thing to do when someone dies is make their family a meal and a lot of times it's a casserole because they're so easy to store and warm up. Historically, they're sort of struggle meals because they're cheap and made of thrown together ingredients but they're a general comfort meal thing for a lot of americans
Not my dumb ass thinking that casserole was referring to the Tupperware container thing 🤣 glad I found out like this instead of calling it the wrong thing in front of other ppl lmao
Iread a romance book a few years ago, I can't remember the name or the author but the MC had male genitalia the size of a coke can. That was the description. If you can work that into your book it would be amazing.
I read one that had three main guys and their junk was described as three different vegetables like it was a lineup in a county fair contest. Incredibly funny, highly recommend for a satire.
My ex had the same toxic mindset as these characters/Colleen Hoover. Senseless drama and scary obsession. There are a lot of abusive un-well people in this world. Stay grounded and stay safe everyone.
Rumour on the streets on TikTok is that a girl was allegedly SAd by CH’s son, and when that girl slid in her dms to tell her about it, CH blocked her. I don’t know how much truth this holds as don’t have the ability to confirm those claims, tho.
I'm not on tiktok but I've looked up articles and followed the links. A twitter user has accused one of her sons of sexual harassment (pestering them for pictures on Snapchat and they have implied he did worse) while knowing they were a minor. CH claims she didn't see the message at first but reached out to this person, apologised, spoken to her son, and sent them her lawyer's contact details. She claims they have never met in person. The twitter user has also claimed sexual assault in their replies to someone asking about it but hasn't mentioned any apology on their twitter, which you'd think they would.
The thought of having grief sex with one of my fiancés brothers makes me feel gross. Like he's not sick or dead or anything but if he ever died I can tell you right now, if never get with one of his brothers. And the thought of him getting with my sister if I ever died also makes me feel so gross. I get it happens and people process grief differently and I suppose I should just be happy in lucky enough to not fully understand it bc it means I haven't been through it, but the thought of it just makes me so unhappy. Also, as someone who has literally been assaulted (by my boyfriend at the time and even now it feels weird to call it assault but I know that's what it was) the same way that the MC was originally written in the club, that's gross. It's not cute, it's not sexy, I don't get why Colleen Hoover wrote it like that originally 🤢
I JUST finished a book called Other Birds. Sad it's over. I tend to be sad when things end. Maybe I should read a Coleen Hoover book and be overjoyed when I finally get to put it down
Ha honestly it would make sense to me that an 18 year old would think this but Colleen is a fully grown woman 💀 I'm 23 too and you're not alone I have no idea whats going on.
I have your video on in the background while I play a game, and the switch to Ben's POV thinking about Fallon's "boobs" violently stripped away my grip on reality and I had to pause the video and put my game down to take deep breaths. Why, why why why why why
as someone who is currently going through the holiday season while trying to keep my manipulative, insecure, narcissistic parents at bay... thank you for pointing out how he tries to force her to see her dad for no good reason. I know it was just a small comment but it means so much when people see through that stuff. it can make you feel so lonely when everyone is acting like you're the villain for trying to protect yourself
Ben: I want to be your first and last. Your only. Also Ben: oh but don't expect the same from me, I've had sex with a few girls already and am gonna root my dead brothers wife and then be upset that you have a boyfriend a year later. Totally not Hypocritical
Okay, I just commented and I know you're probably already gonna say it but I'm at 27:31 and GIRL??? She is literally describing the MC getting sexually assaulted??? I imagine in Hoover's mind, this is a very emotional, intimate moment where in the midst of Tallon's vulnerability, she's being seen as beautiful despite her deep insecurities... But she is literally describing someone getting SA'd. Like. That passage literally makes me want to scream from the rooftops, "if someone is crying while you're undressing them, literally just stop???" Is Colleen Hoover okay??? How do you write that scene and not register how a scene like that would read as anything but sexy??
Ben is like this bloke my mother never wanted her daughters to end up with. He's a walking red flag. Don't settle with a guy, who doesn't respect your boundaries and does not give a rats a* about consent.
"Stumpy veneer freaks" absolutely killed me. Thank you. As someone who has needed and still needs extensive dental work, I too feel frustration and cringe at the idea of "I made a bag- time to destroy my teeth."
If her books were solely promoted to middle-aged women then ok because they already know all of that sht is toxic and her novels are just a fun little spicy read because they're basic and quick, but they're not. they're being read by teenagers and young adults who read these romanticized abusive relationships and believe that they're goals [not that YA novels are free from the same problems but in hers its a common thing]
I listened to one of her crime ones recently without knowing who she was. The man kept telling the barman to only serve the woman character water to make sure she wasn't too drunk to sleep with him. He didn't consult her on any of this, and it was described as "thoughtful"
Ben open fire roasted Fallon way past well-done, to the point she actually ask for forgiveness for getting angry at being burnt, abused and gaslit for years. If that isn't -the start of an unsolved true crime series- romance, then I don't know what it is.
I know this doesn't relate to this video but I just read Loved by the Cast duo and I'm gonna give you the heads up that they will never stop treating Aphrodite like shit. They will never let her catch a break.
I needed a minute to realize that the book you're talking about is a book called Loved, and that it's by the Cast Duo. I kind of thought Alizee had written another rpf involving them.
@@mellow_mallow I thought the same thing about the book title, then as I scrolled down I realised maybe it was actually title/author, then seeing your comment verified my suspicions lol
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@@MadeOfConfusion i think it is all one book but with multiple year long time jumps
Don't know if your still asking for help for erotic parody concepts but have you looked into shifter stories? I may or may not be leaning on calling myself a furry but for whatever reason I've been checking out badly written shifter audiobooks. A few once in a blue moon are actually decent and for some reason it feels like it only pertains to bear shifters stories though that might just be my bias.
Anyways with the exception of those a good number of them tend to read like bad erotic fanfictions written by either incels covering up who they are with a woman's name as an alias or a sheltered horny middle aged Karens. Check some out for inspiration. Lycanthropy is wide spectrum for things besides wolves and bears so maybe make the guy something that's ironically not associated to the tough male were-beasts of the shifter-verse like a rat, pigeon, or a donkey.
If shifters don't seem like your cup of tea then maybe comedic erotic parody something that's already got a goofy popular erotic parodies like pirates of the Caribbean, star trek, or Tarzan.
This book should’ve been marketed as psychological horror
lmao
I mean it is good for its genre.I am pretty much horrified rigth now
ong when I remember smth from this book I be terrified the whole day😍😍😍🔥🔥💯💯💯
@@exosproudmamabear558 hello. You here 😁
@@exomake_mehorololo Oh hello fellow exol
i mean yeah he burned your house down, but have you thought about how sad HE feels about it? :(
Bojack Horseman (the character not the show) in a nutshell
@@avairejustdesserts9921 “I’ve heard of burning love but tHiS Is RIDicULouS”
@@avairejustdesserts9921 honestly Bojack and his Relatives are the only reason why I gave up on the show. Not his half sister. God I hate that reveal.
Burned her house down, caused her physical agony and ruined her dreams.
But he said sowwy Fallon, why are you being so selfish?
@@quinnzykir what do you mean? Bojack's family history and their generational trauma is like the core of the story and the best part of the show. Time's an Arrow, Free Churro, his relationship with his sister... did you give up on season 4?
Her books are supposed to be “adult dark romance” but the writing is very YA.
Actually, this book is YA. As were most of her books. Only recently have the been marketed as New Adult. I was given her book Hopeless in middle school. It scarred me.
I think calling something adult targeted makes it even more marketable to teenagers, for example Attack on Titan which was written almost exclusively to teenagers
@@livijean1 same! My school librarian said that hopeless was very popular with girls my age, i was scarred for years after reading it.
@@livijean1pretty sure Hoover herself calls her books “dark romance” but yeah at the end of the day, it’s still giving YA.
@@Mandombb most of those books feature grooming seeing that shit makes me nearly vomit
Colleen Hoover getting so much recognition and me being continually rejected from publishers makes me wonder how bad my writing actually is
Your writing is probably alright, Tiktok made this author relevant, but it doesn't mean she has any good ideas or writing skills
Let it be fuel to drive that fire, if colleen can do this, you’ve got this!! It only takes ONE yes (deja vu of Jane the virgin lol)
A bunch of amazing books were rejected by several publishers. Don't give up! You got this!
Everybody needs an editor to absolutely tear your work to pieces. If you havnt had that done already then do it. I got into writing initially through doing translations (you dont actually even need to know a language that well if you are translating them into English or your native language). Then eith the contacts and goodwill you get doing that you can move in. Consider it.
a wrinkle in time was rejected by 20 publishers before it was published; don’t give up!!!
I COULDNT BELIEVE WHEN SHE WROTE "why would a girl care to find herself when she will never be able to make herself feel as good as a guy can" WHATTTTTTTTT I HAD TO REWIND LIKE WHATTTTTT
oh yeah the book’s filled with little gems like that
Ugh, why does she hate women so much 🤦♀️ and for what? These rapey, emotionally unavailable, supposedly sexy, manipulative, shallow, male characters. Get lost
Holy “women are objects and having a guy is more important than anything else, including finding a purpose in life” Batman. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
its a good question. its not statement
LMFAOOO FR
If a random guy came up to me and said ‘panties’ that many times during our first conversation I’d be running away
Exactly! How creepy is that!!!
FR
pepper spray 🌶🌶🌶
Ben: does she really think men are that shallow?
Also Ben: immediately proceeds to be shallow
Did you mean: Continues to be shallow for the rest of the book?
@@Nathi98 good point lol
More like:
CoHo: shallow men are so unattractive, I can make this one *better*
CoHo: proceeds to make an absolute creep of a man
I hate Ben so much
@@Nathi98 p.l l k k
It's honestly such a pet peeve of mine when people tell you to forgive family members for being abusive because "blood is thicker than water". The only reason you talk to your family is because you're tied to them by blood. Think about it for a minute, if you weren't family would you be friends with them? If the answer is no then don't force yourself to be around them.
The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Your chosen family is more important than your blood family 💙
@@mythandmayhem1134 YES thank you i hate how that quote has been shortened
@@nostradamus1162 this longer version of the quote is sadly entirely made up. the original comes from a german author from like 1 thousand years ago
Edit: As many of you guys have rightfully stated, both quotes are technically made up. My point originally was that many people think the longer quote came before the shorter one. People think it got shortened afterwards to give it a different meaning. But as many people have stated, the longer quote is most likely an interpretation of the shorter one. The earliest original quote I have found is from a German poet „Blut ist dicker als Wasser.“, but another person has said that it was first found in the Bible, but I am still mot sure. Sorry for any confusion!
ive literally been told this by social workers who i contacted as a kid because my parent kept trying to strangle me to death. Like wtf
@@hanmira do you have a source? id like to read more about this.
seeing her get so popular has been irritating because people are genuinely seeing these relationships as goals somehow,, "i want a man from a coho book" i want you to get help mentally
They're gonna get their wish and, afterwards, 20 years of therapy to cope with the damage it did to their ability to trust others or themselves 🙄
Also Mei is my middle name heyyy
Howling at this comment
There are way too many mechanics I guess because some people want to fix ryle(an abuser) so idk what to say about coho readers other than they can't fix anyone and they need to shut up
Or any "dark romance" book like no its not dark romance its abuse, grooming and or pedophilia
"Show him the respect he showed you." WHAT RESPECT
Also the "plot twist" of ben having been the one that burned her just makes his obsession with her scars more icky than it already was. AND when he said "it's your own fault people feel uncomfortable looking at you," like ???? you did it???
Eww wtf?? He burned her and then fetishised the scars he caused, like it was his handiwork and he was proud of it?? This is an actual psychopath thriller, just pretending to be romance.
No but his behaviour is 100% giving killers and rapists returning to the scene of the crime fantasising about the crime. Like reminiscing it. Its absolutely disgusting.
That actually made me nauseous
@@AmyAberrant If he WAS a serial killer who delighted in the scars he caused while obsessing over Fallon (and it was treated as obsession and not a "tee hee crush"), Ben might actually be a good character. At least he would be creepy in a fun way instead of this perverted stalker whose actions and internal monologue make me want to vomit and hide.
the part where he blames fallon really seems like he's trying to make himself feel better about being the reason behind her intense insecurities. he thinks he's not guilty that he caused the scars if she's the one making herself feel insecure, and it's GROSS
He pretends to be her boyfriend to "save" her from the awkward conversation and she goes along with it?
What in the Wattpad hell is this?
Whats so funny about this is that I was going through my wattpad library the other day (I hadn’t logged on in years) and I saw a colleen hoover book in there!
@@LysolMyFace i went through my wattpad library and it was so concerning
@@LysolMyFace wait, how did the comments go? I NEED TO KNOW 💀
WAIT SHE WAS ON WATTPAD? Time to force myself to brainstorm cues that'll remind me of my old account's password.
Also, who introduces himself with a middle name?
I hate this so much, that if men want to sleep with you, means you shouln't feel insecure. I always remember a fake Adriana Lima quote "It's flattering knowing men desire me. But then I remember a man would also have sex with a McChicken. So I don't let it get to my head,"
That's a great quote lol.
It's sad that that's fake because the quote goes hard af.
Wtf are you high bro 😭
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@miraculous5744 it was like an onion article or sth like that
Her last name is Hoover cause her books sucked the life from me and left me feeling hollow 💀
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Hahaha
I am wheezing XD
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How that should have gone:
“This is the dress I want to wear.”
“And this is the one I want you to wear.”
“But I chose this one.”
“And i’m the one paying to so I get to choose what I look at while we eat.”
“And there’s the door.”
FOR REAL WHEN I READ THIS PART I WAS SO CONFUSED LIKE SHE DOESNT WANNA WEAR IT AND UR GONNA FORCE HER TO ANYWAY...?!
sexual harassment.
That such a weirdly objectifying like wtf. She's obviously just a piece of meat to him.
Or it could be
"I am the one paying and I get to choose what I look at"
"Well, I also planned to pay half and I choose to never see you ever again!"
and then he forcefully undresses her, ignores her clearly being upset with it, and FUCKING PUTS IT ON HER ANYWAY
the fact that Colleen makes it a point to say 18-19 is the same as a full grown adult so many times is really indicative of her views and character lol
knowing that he is the one who started the fire, it feels like his creepy obsession with her scars and where they are and how much of her body they cover, comes off as though he wants to see where he "marked" her or the extent of his impact on her, which is just fucking gross
No because that's very true I feel like that's also weirdly what it's about.
That shit about her virginity being a gift for him made me want to throw up. Also reminded me of the guy I ended up for my first time ever at the ripe old age of 20. I hadn't felt like letting anyone get that close to me until then, and this dude, who I was totally in love with, still made me cringe with saying something like "I'm glad you've been saving yourself for me". Like wtf, no. That is absolutely not it. Stupid purity culture.
Men are so entitled they think you’re ‘saving’ yourself for them, even though that reasoning is so weird and gross.
The shudders that just went through my body bc I remember I talked to a guy and he asked if I’d ever slept with anyone. When I said yes, he got upset bc I hadn’t lost my V to HIM SPECIFICALLY. Never blocked someone so fast in my entire life
@@rizzobeloved i rly do not get this fixation so many men have on women virginity or how many partners shes had before, like guys wanting virgins is weird to me bc I imagine sex with someone inexperienced wouldn't be as good? I also don't understand the aversion to women who have had many partners before, especially if the man just wants to hook up not date or anything. my best guess is its a control thing, they want someone inexperienced so they can be more dominant and in control of the woman. or they want to claim some kind of ownership over her and they cant do that if someone else had sex with her before. idk
@@BlisaBLisa They want virgins because then its easier to manipulate. Virgins don't have experience and men who're insecure and suck in bed want these women so that she'll think it's normal and this is how sex should be
EEEWWWWWW, i screamed when i read that. hope you never had to see him again
If I found out a guy I’m with disfigured me, almost killed me, ruined my career, and BURNED DOWN MY HOUSE a restraining order wouldn’t be enough! I’d need him arrested & put in jail for arson or idk something! Like between the fire starting, stalking, and assault Ben is a menace&danger to society. He needs some legal repercussions&therapy
P.S. Any Hoover fans making excuses for him ALSO need therapy
At my job (bookstore) we have a table dedicated to Colleen Hoover's books- partly because she has so damn many of them and we can't fit them all on the shelf, and partly because she's insanely popular on TikTok and it just makes it easier for us to point at the display.
But I cannot tell you how many times my coworkers have had to advise parents of, like, *twelve year-olds* about the contents of these books because their kids are begging for them. They are marketed as Romance (i.e. adult, so probably has adult sexual content in it!) but people assume that because it's on TikTok it must be appropriate for children.
Ur doing god's work unironically
Wtf if it's on tiktok you should probably assume it's NOT appropriate for children
yes!!! i work at a bookstore too and it genuinely makes me so sad seeing super young (12 YEAR OLDS!!) girls buying her books, i've tried warning them about the themes explored but if they're without parents then they're impossible to convince ..... i've pretty much given up and it's sad bc she pretty much rules over every table in out store
@@stillbejulesed don't give up! kids rarely listen at first, but I know from experience that ideas get planted and can grow later on. Keep telling them that this is not a healthy romance, and at least some of them will value that knowledge later.
@@fionamclary7631 The thing is that "BookTok" recommendations are (if I had to estimate) maybe 65% Young Adult and 35% Adult (primarily romance and sci-fi/fantasy). You have parents who see their twelve year-olds reading, IDK, the Lunar Chronicles or the Selection (firmly YA, nothing that you wouldn't find in a Marvel movie- tamer than that, even) and probably loads of other reasonably appropriate YA novels because they or their friends saw it on TikTok.
So when the kid says "TikTok says that Colleen Hoover's good" the parents will probably assume it's YA and will therefore be reasonably appropriate for a middle-schooler, because everything else (that they're aware of, anyway) from TikTok has been as well. The kids themselves may not even realize that they're picking up an adult romance book depending on how they got the recommendation.
We've had at least a couple of parents get mad at us over this, and frankly it's ridiculous. If I got something that was not from the kids/teen section when I was a kid, my parents at least glanced over the summaries to make sure they weren't grossly inappropriate before buying them. You can't *not* monitor what your kid is reading and then get mad at us when *you* buy it for them without checking it out first.
The “you’re apart of my dna makeup now” is literally from Stones to Abbigale. You know you’re a bad writer when you’re taking from Onision.
Oh lord have mercy
I knew that line was way too familiar... It's so much worse now, haha.
Wtf really?? 😭 that’s bad
Everyday we stray further and further from god
Their whole first meeting is so cringe to me. If some stranger just inserted themselves into my private conversation and touched me without permission I would absolutely lose my shit.
Also that whole thing with her doing her detective thing really just made me think that Colleen Hoover was really into Sherlock while she was writing this.
Side note, _On Writing_ is my favourite book and I was very excited to hear it mentioned.
The whole detective thing is giving off author-self-insert vibes, honestly.
the detective thing is literally giving sherlocks analysis’ of people ☠️
Next Fallon is gonna peg Ben as a serial adulterer based on how clean the inside of his ring is
I love my personal space, anyone who invaded that without knowing me is an automatic danger in my mind, I don’t get why romance novels always make it seem so romantic because it never is, it’s creepy
Also, him saying “thank you for this gift” before going inside her is the least sexy thing I’ve ever heard. If that happened to me on my first time I’d be put off sex for years💀
When people call nineteen year olds “grown men” or “grown women” it makes my head explode lmao
- me, who was 19 not too long ago
Same! I didn’t even think of myself as an adult AS a 19 year old. I barely do now as a 28 year old. Don’t know what these characters and CH are smoking.
Me who is 19 rn and feels like a baby
Aside from her controversies her writing is just terrible, insufferable, and corny. all the way down to the names of the characters. I might’ve liked her work when I was a preteen, but thank god I wasn’t given the chance to because I would have found it romantic.
_lily blossom bloom_
Oh my god THANK YOU. I've only read it ends with us and apart from everything else that's awfully wrong with it, the writing was EXCRUCIATINGLY CRINGY
@@Jj-nn9yn and owns a flower shop😭😭..
@@Jj-nn9yn ryle and atlas 💀💀
@@deadcorpse69 ryle is still somewhat a normal name compared to lily blossom bloom and atlas lmao
The category for coho enjoyers being "people who skipped the wattpad phase and are having it now" feels right bc tho I've never read a coho book the reviews I see feels so similar to fanfics I would read when I was 13 and now I don't dare breathing close to them again
as rough as my wattpad phase was, im kind of glad i had it when i did, because now im older and know better. i cannot imagine having a phase like that as an adult.
Caleb was one of the first book tubers I was watching so when Colleen Hover books started blowing up I was confused like huuuuuuuh
Same! Glad I learned about her from him so I know better
Caleb was the only person on youtube I found back then who had a similar opinion as me on November 9, I read it back in 2018 and seeing all the positive reviews shocked me to my core because that book was horrendous
And people ATTACKED him for it! Even though he was so right!
Poor Caleb has suffered so much to protect us.
@@meghanphillips3495 Caleb isn’t the hero we deserved, but the hero we needed (or however the saying goes)
Bro I have sh scars and I’d rather die alone than have my boyfriend talk about how beautiful they are all the time. Like just acknowledge they exist and move on pls don’t focus on them, I will spiral
Yes!!! Especially if it’s something you did years ago and have recovered and moved on from it. I would not be in a good mood if someone kept brining up my scars and calling them beautiful because my mental state when I did them was far from beautiful
ESPECIALLY sexualizing the scars..like ew? Imagining that there’s scars on her chest and that as he mentally undresses her he’s imagining where they’d be. So gross. 😕
Sure, there are people who appreciate comments like this from a partner but this book, like most romance, implies telepathy, instead of actual, healthy communication in a relationship.
same i have sh scars and my bf literally hates them… he says he feels the pain and requests me to seek help. he tries to help me and i always feel so sad when i put him in that position :( whenever i try to explain it’s my coping mechanism he makes me promise not to do it and makes sure i haven’t. not that that’s not bad for him :((( but it helps a lot… i am taking therepy now..
right. these things shouldn’t be seen as ugly, but they shouldn’t be sexualised either (in my opinion). just acknowledge them and feel neutral or indifferent. that’s all i ask.
I can tell what Colleen is going for with this guy when he says "I like the way your skin feels." I have a weird heterochromatic eye (only hetero thing about me, tbh) and I got made fun of for it a lot, but my partner managed to make it feel like a beautiful part of me.
Somehow, Colleen's writing is so terrible that she's tainting that experience.
I love things like that in stories, where someone will have an insecurity or an "abnormal" thing, and their partner/love interest is fascinated by it or finds it beautiful, so the fact that Colleen managed to screw up at it upsets me.
Yeah as someone with scars at visible points I get what was being aimed for but ho boy the mark was missed....
I thought you were going to say he wanted to wear her skin like a suit, because I always think of silence of the lambs when someone talks about skin like that. I think I’m interpreting Hoover as horror tbh.
i have heterohromatic eyes as well and i've grown to love them
I've got centralised heterochromia myself. Not two different coloured eyes, but both eyes have two colours within them, a different outer ring & a different inner ring
His reaction to the scars in light of the fact that HE KNEW he started the fire is beyond a red flag.
Men like Ben are the reason why some women question if they’re attracted to men at all.
Men are truly lucky het women put the bar in hell.
@@maybemablemaples2144 say who?
@@durratulaishah3703 Google is your best friend.
@@maybemablemaples2144 fr 💀
@@maybemablemaples2144 fr💀💀
This reminds me of the video that went viral about a month ago, of the guy that called the cops on a girl's dad for making threats to him after he stalked his daughter repeatedly trying to get her to listen to a "love song" he wrote for her. In HIS mind it was romantic, chasing the hard to get girl who just needed to give him a chance to prove his love.
In HER mind it was a terrifying experience of turning a guy down repeatedly, just to have him relentlessly stalk her because he was convinced she loved him, she just didn't know it yet. If the video was made by Colleen Hoover, the dad would have sided with the stalker instead of threatening to beat the ever loving sh*t out of him, like a parent should do for their child.
Oh god yeah I remember that situation. It was horrifying that a man so delusional could believe that he’s “giving her a choice” while chasing her. It’s terrifying.
even worse when his dear serenade sounds like the go-to song of a demon that is in charged of dj-ing for the main hall of the deepest level of hell, but in a really really bad way solely. i felt every hair strand on my head disintegrated simultaneously when i heard a 10 second snippet of it. holy.
Sadly every indian movie potrays the exact same story a guy likes a girl he goes to her and tell her he "loves" her like literally the first second they met and when she stalks the hell out of her follow her everywhere and kind of scaring her but all this is pushed under the rug in the Name of "pure love" and after he stalks the hell out of her and threatens to kill himself is she doesn't "accept" him she finally agrees like wtf
What's the video please ? I feel in the mood to cringe.
Is there an update? The stalker guy get to sit in jail perchance? :D
50:36 “Coleen Hoover, just give us BDSM, give us some f i l t h, I know you want to” might be the most accurate assessment of smutty contemporary romances I’ve ever heard and I am shellshocked
I think she want to give us romanticized rape instead
@@chilling_koala If you’re willing to address it properly, non con is actually a fetish for some people (often abuse victims reclaiming their power apparently?) so she really could have just done that. But why do something remotely sensical right
@@chilling_koala Listen mate idk 🤷🏻♀️ People are weird, apparently it’s about loss of control in a safe and ironically controlled environment, the point shouldn’t be to disrespect rape victims as far as I’m aware but it… sure is something?
@@happyjellycatsquid no thats immoral. lmao yall gross
@@cerys113 tell that to people who’s kink that is man I can’t help you out on this one 😅
I remember back in the day seeing Caleb getting bullied and just torn apart for making the negative review of this book. It’s nice to see him finally getting some vindication
yes literally justice for Caleb like why were people living in some sort of delusional world gaslighting people into thinking obvious red flags weren’t harmful content for young teens
I have _one_ crown, which was to replace a tooth that basically shattered down to the root. The process was hellish and took months to pay off. The idea of replacing all your teeth _for no reason_ just baffles me.
I have a crown on a tooth that's been a pain for a couple decades and was cracking around its old metal filling. The damn thing refused to fully numb during the filing procedure, and I had to just wince through some of it. And with crowns etc., there's always a chance it won't stick, and you'll need a root canal or lose the tooth later. I cannot envision doing something that to multiple teeth that are perfectly fine, especially knowing the veneer/etc. will eventually need replaced even if they work.
If I want to replace my teeth the dentist better give me a whole new set of Xenomorph chompers (without the pharyngeal jaw because I think that's like... A different specialisation altogether lmao).
No responsible dentist would ruin healthy teeth like that, I'm shuddering at the thought of it.
Maybe it's a new psychological glitch with certain folks. . . I'm not smart enough ( like Alizee, and I'm not simping, I admire her mind-set immensely)
You're correct, who t.f. does that to their mouth? Beats me!
Moral of the story: If a man burns your father's car that gives you 3rd degree burns, stalk you, and tries to keep you from leaving, you should just forgive him because "twue wuv 🥺"
As a proud Colleen Hoover Hater, I’m so hyped to watch this video
@Raven Balcom I'm pretty proud of hating Kanye west I dunno seems like an obvious choice
@Raven Balcom all I'm saying that sometimes hating someone is a proof of being a decent human
@@ravenbalcom2378 idk romanticizing sexual assault seems like a pretty good reason to hate someone
@Raven Balcom I hate Hitler, is it weird that I hate hitler?
@Raven Balcom I think they meant they hate her writing and not her as a person, also there’s nothing wrong with hating a nazi lmao they suck
(Also to your most recent reply.. bro relax I’m pretty sure the “proud Hoover hater” thing was a joke… you do know what humour is right?)
I hate that there is sexual assault in every book like this. It's exactly what assault looks like in real life. Man youre involved with corners you and expects you to be turned on by him touching you. Your body responds even though your brain is afraid. He takes it as proof. You take it as proof too because sex ed failed you. But instead of being normalized, it's excused. It's repulsive.
I love these thorough reviews from you. It's about time Colleen Hoover gets her turn. Her books should never have been marketed at young girls in the first place, and they shouldn't be called romance books.
“(whispered) This is why we need feminism” is so good 😭
Funny because thanks to feminism women read trash like this and acotar.
It's true, too.
the scene where she finds out he set the fire & is physically restraining her from leaving is genuinely so terrifying. this would b a good plotline if it was written as a horror story and, like u mentioned, a cautionary tale about insta love
her inviting him to her place after that TERRIFYING monologue he just did to her is absolutely insane behavior, has colleen hoover ever interacted with a single human being, ever????? (SIDE NOTE: WHO SAYS PANTIES?????? WHAT????)
ugh I hate that word but a lot of people actually use it
"This book normalizes abuse." Yep, that's what I was waiting for, and honestly what I was expecting when you mentioned the other book you had read. Which, honestly, the fact that I was _expecting_ abuse in a book to be cast in a romantic light says a lot about quite a few authors these days... **shudders**
Her dad was abusive that's why. Colleens dad
@JulyJuneJanuary the fact that her dad was abusive, her son is a rapist (who she supports), and she was a social worker and still treats these topics the way she does is so pathetic
On ppl saying that coho books are for those that didn't have a wattpad phase... my wattpad phase wasn't this bad... bad boys? sure. fuck boys? sure. but I didn't read about romanticised abuse and wished for my own fucked up romance. it just lacks common sense
Same…that’s why I had problems when reading really bad bully romances. I always kept thinking: “I would never fall in love with someone that treats me this horribly”
what's wack is that a lot of us idiots reading angst or hurt/no comfort as teens absolutely did NOT wish for our own fucked up romances. but then i see people swooning over these terrible books and am so confused bc like... did my friends & i have more awareness as kids than coho stans do as adults?? this is worse than my wattpad phase and i _did_ read awful shit
"you absolute lobotomites' 😂😂😂 perfection. And yes, I'd read smut written by you. You could bang (no pun intended?) a smut novel out in 6 weeks at most and people WOULD read it. Make that paper, girl.
so I'm gonna make them short - because I get bored easily - and topical. you'll see!
@@AlizeeYeezy lmao.. so just like real life smut, then 😂
@@AlizeeYeezy
The vegan sausage roll/whatever politician comes to mind lmao
As a man and someone who's hoping to be an author someday, I'm using Colleen Hoover's books as notes on how to NOT write relationships between men and women
Wishing you all the best
We need mote writers with his idea in mind, good luck on your stories and hope everything will turn out well!
Respect
Goodluck
It's a good thing bad books exist so we can learn what not to do haha
Good luck!
It was around 1:35:25 when I realized a significantly better plot would've still started with the fake romance but it would've been someone Fallon already knows helping her- maybe a barista or waiter or something she regularly saw at the restaurant and maybe already liked, whether platonically or as something else. Then said waiter could pretend to be her boyfriend and she'd likely be more comfortable with that since she'd already know him. Ben could still be part of the story but would be the clear antagonist- a desperate, cruel, selfish stalker rather than the love interest. There are so many ways this story could have gone but the more I hear of Colleen Hoover's writing the less surprised I am- I'm just kind of disappointed at this point? Ugh it's all so bad and toxic. No one deserves to read this...
The potential that storyline would have. So sad.
"I was wondering what panties you were wearing"
Who says that to someone they literally JUST met?
That scene would have been so different irl.
"I was wondering what panties you were wearing."
"Fuck off or I'll call the cops."
The End
@@hedgers2005Yeah that would've been a normal response
Tbf I'm American and I went an entire year blacked out from drinking and, apparently, occasional pills. It actually made me quit drinking since I ended up nearly dying several times and waking up in either psych wards, the E.R. or strangers' houses/apartments, with no memory of how I got there. I lost my hearing in one ear, got chronic nerve pain at age 21 and ruined like every relationship I had but im not a crippling alcoholic anymore yay
i’m really proud of you! addiction is really hard to overcome (i would know)
glad you’re still around dude. Wish you all the best
I hope my anonymous youtube trauma dumping was helpful to some ppl lol. I figure being open about it reduces the stigma, and if it gives someone hope for themselves, I was like BAD, chugging a bottle of vodka a day sometimes from age 19-21. Now I don't even crave a drink, but it was hell getting here. Worth sticking it out tho, I promise
@@holysickdivinenights thank you, I really appreciate it, I think addiction is such a shitty disease with stigma so it makes me grateful to see others be open about it
@@thatswhatisaidsodiumchlori5370 you as well :)
I've never heard of Hoover, but she seems adept at writing male love interests that feel like they escaped an episode of Dexter
Facts
There should be a fanfiction where Dexter kills all of the terrible male leads lol
That would be better than any Coho novel@@Gchildwarrior
So you're telling me that wearing clothes that cover your entire body doesn't protect you from creeps? I am SHOCKED (sarcasm)
I ended a fairly short term relationship a few weeks ago. Warned him I'd block him if he kept trying to manipulate me.. I blocked him. He turned up at my house, I didn't open the door, just called the cops. Stick to your boundaries, if someone doesn't understand 'no' then they aren't respecting you anyway.
Also I broke a tooth and couldn't afford to get it fixed right away so I ended up needing a root canal, and now I need a crown because it's a 'chewing tooth'. Can't afford that either so have gone back to just eating on one side of my mouth. Don't fuck with your teeth.
My biggest issue is that these books were marketed for young women! And the main characters are underaged. I get that dark romance is a thing and adults can explore and make their own decisions, but do not romanticize this for you women 🤬
Just look up the plot of Hopeless, it is so much worse than November 9. It actually left me really messed up for a bit when I read it… as a teenager.
I’m only 27 minutes in and am PRETTY sure this book is a horror story
“It’s not a threat to her, but it SURE IS TO ME!” encapsulates this entire experience
"Verity" is her version of a horror story. It's horrific, anyway. It claims to be a mystery/thriller, but I will not be convinced otherwise.
Oh god the day has finally come, my favourite book critic dissecting the author I most like to see criticised. And THIS book no less, I've never been keener this is going to be a ride!
Also I think you've turned me into a masochist because I've found myself itching for updates in your House of Night series, that CANNOT be normal.
あaa あ
Leaving this comment here cause I NEED to see her dig into it!!
The note about women being able to separate sex from romance and having sex for pleasure actually reminds me of a character in the Great Library series by Rachel Caine, who has multiple partners but doesn't see herself as settling down with anyone, and her choice isn't seen as some tragic, heartbreaking thing, it's just a lifestyle she chose for herself.
Tell me Colleen Hoover's husband has never called her beautiful a day in her life without telling me her husband has never called her beautiful.... Or has given her an ounce affection their entire relationship.
honestly yeah, this all kinda reads like the fantasy of someone who wants to be desired, so much so that the guy resorts to being a total creep. a sort of rape fantasy lite
I’ve been waiting on getting a Hoover book until the TikTok phase was over to see how she really is… glad I didn’t waste the money. Also side note, casserole in America is basically a bunch of stuff layered together and baked in a dish. If you look up something like green bean casserole, it shows a good representation of them, but there a ton of different ones that are completely different from each other.
It’s more of a Midwest thing than anything else
It's definitely a thing here in the midwest, except in Minnesota i think it's called 'hot dish' which i want to love, but can't. it makes me feel filthy even typing those words
It's a thing in the south (usa) as well!
also for some reason whenever something bad happens midwest people are just like “a casserole will solve this.” ( my mom got a lot of them during her first divorce. ) the good thing is they’re pretty easy to reheat but the idea of the neighborhood bringing them a bunch of different stews is better imo.
Remember, you can't trust tiktok, there's just sl*ts, f*ggots and sexism in one place
the way my jaw DROPPED when SHE apologized to HIM
Not even a half hour into this review and this book is already an entire case of Mike's Hard Yikes. Holy hell, there's so many red flags that the world's on the verge of a dye shortage.
You phrased this so utterly poetically, it’s beautiful, thank you 💙
ik this is gonna be good
Saviour complex...
Fetishizes her trauma...
Onision?!
Yeee
Managed to misread the title as 9/11 and wondered why the fuck someone would write a romance book about that, but then, I saw so many weird books already
i wouldn't say all 18 year olds have to be immature brats, but calling yourself "an 18-year-old adult" is a definite red flag on that one lol
like, sincerely, I am barely 21 and I could mostly tell you if someone's my age or 18 by their behavior. Always ready to be proven wrong, surely, but damn. The first step of maturity is realizing you're a child.
Sincerly, a 21 year old (**AdUlT**)
And the biggest, blood reddest red flag ever is grown adults (30s+) acting like 18 year olds are fully grown
You're so right. I'm 23 now and already think I'm a lot different than I was when I was 21, but 21 year old me and current me could at least have a conversation on the same intellectual level. 18 year old me??? Completely different story. I know that sounds harsh but thats how it's supposed to be. You're not supposed to be a fully grown adult at 18. Just enjoy being young and stay single and get some fun hobbies... keep it light if you can help it. There's just no way you can have the perspective and literal brain development of a real adult at that age. It doesn't mean youre a kid either, it's just the weird in between stage (18-21/22).
51:12 that's because Twist and Shout is not by the Beatles. The Beatles did a cover of it. The original was by a band called the Isley Brothers.
I... am genuinely in awe at how bad that ending was. Just... huh???? Thank you for suffering through this book so we don't have to.
(Slight cw)
I was burned when I was 5 so I've been living with scars all over my body for my whole life and seeing Fallon going through what I went through as a kid, it's actually painful. Seeing Ben take advantage of her trauma and fetishize her scars is awful and I think this book just went to one of my most hated.
I have a confession to make. I read It Ends With Us and I loved it. However, I did not have any expectations so the dynamics of the relationship made sense in the context of the story. I then read Ugly Love and I was like 'wtf is this shit?!'. It Ends With Us was, I thought, a smart story of the slow unravelling of an abusive partner/relationship. I didn't realise Hoover throws this behaviour into every male character, in non-abusive relationships. So now I feel embarrassed to have ever proclaimed to like that book. Thank you.
Oh my God Same experience
Yeah I think it only work in It End With Us because the abuse is acknowledged as abuse.
The problem lies in her other characters having the same abusive behaviours and patterns without it being called out. Instead they're just so passionate and love the MC so much and thus all of their problematic actions are completely fine and forgiveable.
Yea same I loved that lily left ryle at the end and acknowledged the abuse. But her other books are Def nothing like it ends with us 💀
Same
im a model with significant scarring who has modelled for vogue before. when I was a kid, I always wanted a woman in literature who resembled me a little. I am so disgusted by the portal of Fallon's scars and how other people thing/feel about them. if I was a teenager, I could not imagine how I would feel reading this. makes me upset to even think about.
I worked in a library the past three months. I was a cashier. Everytime I saw a teenage girl showing up with one or multiple Coleen Hoover books, a piece of me died inside
The fact that her MOTHER! (HER! MOTHER!) sides with the STALKER WHO CAUSED GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM to her CHILD. Over said Child????? I'm going to lose my mind. How is Coho so popular I am losing my shit.
im just surprised a woman wrote this. i must stop watching at the boobs i cant. colleen should've just published this on wattpad. i read 10 better fanfictions than what you read to me in the first 5 minutes. what is wrong with her??
My exact thoughts. Ive never come across a woman like this before.
It reminds me a little of the 'men writing women trope'. Her boobs bounced boobily as she walked through the door, that kinda thing. Except she's writing a man. If I was a man I'd honestly be a little offended lmao.
Hahaha. I would be offended more offended if I wasn't shocked in how she views her own gender... @@brh.1892
I think she genuinely thinks she’s just writing realistic men
Casserole is a catch-all term for when you stack foods into a sort of lasagna configuration. You can get green bean casserole and that’s when green beans are in a dish with like crunchy onion bits. You can call just about anything a casserole as long as it’s stacked up in a dish. People tend to throw those in the oven because they’re relatively easy to make. You usually give them to your neighbors if they’re in mourning or otherwise you don’t think they can make food for themselves.
Exactly. It's like the old "frozen dinner" before it was commercialized. It's whatever food in the casserole dish that can be kept and cooked easily enough for anyone going through hardships
I think the key for mourning/hospitalization scenarios is that it can provide you a whole meal without you having to put in any work (if someone has pre-made it for you). You bring a casserole, a bread, and some iced tea, and that's a meal that will keep in the fridge for a week and take almost zero effort to serve.
casseroles are more commonly mixed together before cooking though, rather than stacked (even though some, like lasagna, are stacked). it's sort of like a "one pot meal" kind of thing where everything is mixed, cooked, and stored in one container (the casserole dish). it's kind of the stereotypical nice thing to do when someone dies is make their family a meal and a lot of times it's a casserole because they're so easy to store and warm up. Historically, they're sort of struggle meals because they're cheap and made of thrown together ingredients but they're a general comfort meal thing for a lot of americans
Not my dumb ass thinking that casserole was referring to the Tupperware container thing 🤣 glad I found out like this instead of calling it the wrong thing in front of other ppl lmao
I'm glad I never picked up a Colleen Hoover book, it really does sound like a Wattpad fanfic.
I wanna say that this is worse…
:( but I write on wattpad :(
@@soft_blossoms I bet your writing is 100x better
30:39 you mentioning all the communication channels available to him made me laugh, but adding Habbo, Club Penguin, mns messenger just killed me 😂😂
Iread a romance book a few years ago, I can't remember the name or the author but the MC had male genitalia the size of a coke can. That was the description. If you can work that into your book it would be amazing.
I mean, isn’t that what every woman dreams of! 😂😂😂😂
That last sentence didn't end how I expected.
I read one that had three main guys and their junk was described as three different vegetables like it was a lineup in a county fair contest. Incredibly funny, highly recommend for a satire.
My ex had the same toxic mindset as these characters/Colleen Hoover. Senseless drama and scary obsession. There are a lot of abusive un-well people in this world. Stay grounded and stay safe everyone.
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30:40 okay but can you IMAGINE Colleen Hoover writing a novel about a couple who meet on club penguin
That is indeed a great haircut
And yeah Colleen Hoover is terrifying 💀
Rumour on the streets on TikTok is that a girl was allegedly SAd by CH’s son, and when that girl slid in her dms to tell her about it, CH blocked her.
I don’t know how much truth this holds as don’t have the ability to confirm those claims, tho.
you probably shouldn't post about it, then.
Holy crap. Any updates?
I'm not on tiktok but I've looked up articles and followed the links. A twitter user has accused one of her sons of sexual harassment (pestering them for pictures on Snapchat and they have implied he did worse) while knowing they were a minor.
CH claims she didn't see the message at first but reached out to this person, apologised, spoken to her son, and sent them her lawyer's contact details. She claims they have never met in person.
The twitter user has also claimed sexual assault in their replies to someone asking about it but hasn't mentioned any apology on their twitter, which you'd think they would.
I was waiting for this!
Edit: You didn‘t disappoint. Colleen Hoover is a disgrace to authors and an insult to readers.
My face the entire last apology/thing from Fallon to Ben, went from a frown to the worst scrunched up ick face I've ever made. What a terrible ending!
The thought of having grief sex with one of my fiancés brothers makes me feel gross. Like he's not sick or dead or anything but if he ever died I can tell you right now, if never get with one of his brothers. And the thought of him getting with my sister if I ever died also makes me feel so gross. I get it happens and people process grief differently and I suppose I should just be happy in lucky enough to not fully understand it bc it means I haven't been through it, but the thought of it just makes me so unhappy.
Also, as someone who has literally been assaulted (by my boyfriend at the time and even now it feels weird to call it assault but I know that's what it was) the same way that the MC was originally written in the club, that's gross. It's not cute, it's not sexy, I don't get why Colleen Hoover wrote it like that originally 🤢
I JUST finished a book called Other Birds. Sad it's over. I tend to be sad when things end. Maybe I should read a Coleen Hoover book and be overjoyed when I finally get to put it down
THIS IS SO ME💀
Imagine being 23 and having your life figured out lmao I wish
love how this small detail is even more unrealistic than the rest of the plot lol
@@tdc_14 Colleen Hoover actually has one talent and it is writing completely bullshit books, which is one more than I originally thought she had
Ha honestly it would make sense to me that an 18 year old would think this but Colleen is a fully grown woman 💀 I'm 23 too and you're not alone I have no idea whats going on.
I have your video on in the background while I play a game, and the switch to Ben's POV thinking about Fallon's "boobs" violently stripped away my grip on reality and I had to pause the video and put my game down to take deep breaths.
Why, why why why why why
her greatest disgrace was naming a book after my birthday
What's even worse for me is that november 9th is my anniversary with my boyfriend😭
@@Mandy0711 I am so sorry for you😭
love that malachite is ben's favourite mineral when its highly toxic when wet...
as someone who is currently going through the holiday season while trying to keep my manipulative, insecure, narcissistic parents at bay... thank you for pointing out how he tries to force her to see her dad for no good reason. I know it was just a small comment but it means so much when people see through that stuff. it can make you feel so lonely when everyone is acting like you're the villain for trying to protect yourself
Ben: I want to be your first and last. Your only.
Also Ben: oh but don't expect the same from me, I've had sex with a few girls already and am gonna root my dead brothers wife and then be upset that you have a boyfriend a year later. Totally not Hypocritical
✌
I would cheat on Ben as revenge and trick him if I was Fallon I hate him so so much
Okay, I just commented and I know you're probably already gonna say it but I'm at 27:31 and GIRL??? She is literally describing the MC getting sexually assaulted???
I imagine in Hoover's mind, this is a very emotional, intimate moment where in the midst of Tallon's vulnerability, she's being seen as beautiful despite her deep insecurities...
But she is literally describing someone getting SA'd. Like. That passage literally makes me want to scream from the rooftops, "if someone is crying while you're undressing them, literally just stop???"
Is Colleen Hoover okay??? How do you write that scene and not register how a scene like that would read as anything but sexy??
right like wtafff
Alizee saying "who the hell is ringing ME? A video chat? I don't think so" is the most relatable thing tbh
Ben is like this bloke my mother never wanted her daughters to end up with.
He's a walking red flag.
Don't settle with a guy, who doesn't respect your boundaries and does not give a rats a* about consent.
I'm about 30 minutes in and this story is basically yassified Onision fiction.
"Stumpy veneer freaks" absolutely killed me. Thank you. As someone who has needed and still needs extensive dental work, I too feel frustration and cringe at the idea of "I made a bag- time to destroy my teeth."
If her books were solely promoted to middle-aged women then ok because they already know all of that sht is toxic and her novels are just a fun little spicy read because they're basic and quick, but they're not. they're being read by teenagers and young adults who read these romanticized abusive relationships and believe that they're goals [not that YA novels are free from the same problems but in hers its a common thing]
I listened to one of her crime ones recently without knowing who she was. The man kept telling the barman to only serve the woman character water to make sure she wasn't too drunk to sleep with him. He didn't consult her on any of this, and it was described as "thoughtful"
Ben open fire roasted Fallon way past well-done, to the point she actually ask for forgiveness for getting angry at being burnt, abused and gaslit for years. If that isn't -the start of an unsolved true crime series- romance, then I don't know what it is.
I have never heard of this woman. Rip and tear into this book, Alizee.
My first experience with a Colleen Hoover book was Ugly Love and it was so bad that I’ve made the decision to never read one of her books again.
Omg same!
I know this doesn't relate to this video but I just read Loved by the Cast duo and I'm gonna give you the heads up that they will never stop treating Aphrodite like shit. They will never let her catch a break.
i am genuinely chagrined to hear this
I was honestly hopeful going into it that the Cast duo had gotten better. Prepare yourself. ;D
I needed a minute to realize that the book you're talking about is a book called Loved, and that it's by the Cast Duo. I kind of thought Alizee had written another rpf involving them.
@@mellow_mallow I thought the same thing about the book title, then as I scrolled down I realised maybe it was actually title/author, then seeing your comment verified my suspicions lol
@@AlizeeYeezy Chagrined but not shocked, I'd assume.