NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 GPU Review & Benchmarks
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- This review of the EVGA (NVIDIA) RTX 3050 video card offers benchmarks vs. the RTX 3060, RX 6500 XT, GTX 970 & 1070 in 2022, and many more. We test gaming and power results.
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NVIDIA's RTX 3050 launched today, but the EVGA RTX 3050 XC we're reviewing is actually $80 more expensive than we were told to expect. That's because EVGA accidentally shipped it with the VBIOS for a higher-tier card, although the ultimate difference between the two is about 2-3%. The EVGA RTX 3050s are either $250 or $330 MSRP, although other cards, like the ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3050, go up as high as $500 MSRP (before even getting scalped). The range is massive. We're benchmarking the RTX 3050 in gaming, helping establish whether it's worth it to upgrade from a GTX 960, GTX 970, GTX 980 Ti (no), GTX 1070, or other cards.
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00:00 - NVIDIA RTX 3050 Review & Benchmarks
01:02 - EVGA's Mistake
03:56 - Frequency is Too High
04:43 - Tomb Raider 1080p & 1440p GPU Benchmarks
06:30 - Rainbow Six Siege (1080p, 1440p, & 4K)
08:04 - Red Dead Redemption 2 (1080p & 1440p)
09:31 - Total War: Three Kingdoms Best Gaming GPUs
10:42 - Horizon Zero Dawn Best GPUs 2022
11:29 - The Division 2
12:09 - Far Cry 6
12:45 - Grand Theft Auto V
13:01 - Power Consumption
13:21 - Conclusion
15:45 - Reviewing GPUs is Still Weird
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I think that everyone gives this card an unfair bad shake. The only thing that is really bad about it is the lack of AV1 decoding. The rest doesn't matter to most people. The narrow memory bus just means that it isn't useful for mining at all. it is only decent at gaming. With inflation $200->$300 and this is being offered under $300 and it is actually in stock. Performance is like an RX580 which is the "top end card" from "2" generations ago. Sure it only has 4GB VRAM but this also means it cannot be used for mining ETH.
So overall if you want to play games and you don't have a card then this does much better than any IGP solution and better than anything else under $300. Considering that even a 1650 Super is selling for $350-400 right now.... I expect that the RTX3050 won't be less than $400 in another week or less.... Whereas the 6500XT can actually be purchased. Does that make it great? No.
Does it make it an option? Definitely. Especially for people on a budget.
@@Jimster481 Agreed. 3050 is already $450 and growing. Simply not in the same league.
@@aleksazunjic9672 Yea, honestly the 3050 is already competing with the 6600 and soon the 6600XT. I bought a 6600 last week for $425 on Newegg. If you watch the drops they come into stock quite often now. The 6600XT goes for $500-525 often on Newegg also... I'll give it a few days before the 3050 is over $500. Mores law is dead just did a video on how the 3050 doesn't have supply either.
@@Jimster481 Scalpers are already offering 3050 for $500 or even more.
Remember when 50 series GPUs used to cost ~$150
Less than that.
@@Kynareth6 $149
@@RepsUp100 pretty sure the original 2GB 1050 msrp was around $100
@@RepsUp100 Are people so forgetful? 650 was $109, 750 was $119 and 1050 was again $109. So less than $149.
They're still $150.... over what they should be.
As a 1060 owner with a 1080p monitor... I think I'm still going to wait. Even the newest games are still playable on medium at 1080p 60fps. I wont be "upgrading" if it costs an arm and a leg. Very happy with my gpu.
yeah, I mean, the 1060 I have is capable of running an original Vive headset with enough FPS to avoid nausea. Can't really ask for more than that.
@@themagitechie9955 actually fantastic, rock on dude
Same here. 1080p, 1060....I'll upgrade....eventually.
@@AbsintheMindMatt itll be a long wait, but I think the longer the more satisfyinggg
same here, just worried it might die soon because of 4 years of usage und a 2,1GHz OC. Temps are Fine tho, the strix cooler is still overkill for a 1060
Absolutely insane MSRP for a 50 series card is now $300.
And retail price is 100-200$ more.
@@Anton333221 I saw one listed at $967 on newegg :(
@Leonardo De Luzio I just got mine with a combo deal, gigabyte gtx 3050 8gb OC and amd b450 asus arous for 500 on Newegg
@@tedd7661 you got scammed lol
As a 980Ti owner, makes me feel better about my card even if it’s approaching 7 years old now - Just don’t want nvidia to remove driver support too soon
For me 2022 started with question - hmm should i buy 1650 from retailer or 980 ti used? I couldnt even imagine this back in 2015..
It'll still be another 2-4 years.
Yes i had a sli gtx 980 and while sli is dead now, the 980 performs like a gtx 1650 super
980ti is def one of the cards that stayed “relevant” for the longest. I would say the 750ti is right there with it lol
Now that you mention it, I'm surprised they haven't ditched updating the drivers. You know, doing that modern planned obsolescence thing and forcing people to buy modern copies of pretty much the same card.
"The value is obviously going in a negative direction"
That's actually high praise in Q1 2022.
@fuslink I'm sorry, I only do over the pants mouth stuff.
@@DIYNorth don't reply to the bots.
@@KiraSlith bots are people too
@@DIYNorth bruh what
@@Acevern It's true, I saw it in a movie. They called them Fembots. Though admittedly I haven't researched the veracity of their depiction in the movie.
The only thing I've learned these past 2 years is that the GTX 10 series was the last GPU family worth getting
I only got a RTX 3080 after being on EVGA's list for a little over a year, but my GTX 1080 (regular not Ti) was still doing good in the latest games at 1440p. I was just starting to have to lower some settings in games. But only from ultra to high and the difference between ultra and high with most settings is very hard to notice but very taxing. Put my 1080 on FB market place for $350 or best offer. Got tons of offers within a few hours and ended up selling it the same day to someone that said they would pay $450 for it! That's $50 less than what the card cost when the 1080 was brand new.
@@sean8102 Grats, I've been on that waitlist since June.
Why would that be? The 2000 series cards were great(I have a 2070 and a 2080 TI) and the 3000 series cards 3060ti and above are great. What do you mean by worth? They get the job done. They're well worth the money since they deliver the performance that people need. And they have the extra features that AMD does not. So the value is less on the AMD side.
Not only that but the CPU's are also on that trend. 2-3 generations in and you're getting a 10-20 fps increase only. And the Power Consumption is crazy. Those who have a 9900K made a good buy
Aint that the TRUTH! GTX 1060 6gb over here. All of our pc components have additional 50%-100% markups, even before the scalpdemic. The 10 series was such a sound investment :)
I love how they can justify products with a higher price by simply giving it a different VBIOS and no difference in the hardware.
@fuslink damn the vacuum cleaner guy wasn't kidding!
Been doing that for years, Maybe decades...
It's sad to see the 150 - $200 price segment of new GPUs just evaporate before our very eyes. And anything that does exist there right now is either terrible or really old.
*Slaps 730 assuredly*
"Why this card has at least 5 more years of life left in it. Here at Nvidia we believe Frames Win Games. And when you play in 400x600 on the lowest settings, you'll be a winner!!!"
.......Ok Nvidia, can I have a job as vice director of marketing now?
You forgot that it used to cost 100-110 American yuan for a 50 class gpu, not 150!
If the plan is to make products so bad even miners don't want them then mission accomplished. Operation Dregs has been a complete success. At what point does someone high enough up in the food chain over at AMD and Nvidia decide that maybe it's time to make a decent product ? Forget the price. We've gone from overpriced barely adequate cards to overpriced inadequate cards.
Hell even used cards like the 1080ti goes for 6 to 800 bucks, its so stupid!
you chose this future and you wanted it though
Makes me appreciate my GTX 1070 even more.
Thanks, Steve.
Back to you Steve
where are these only fans scammers coming from?
Man wasn’t the 1070 like $350-$400 in 2016? It’s like functionally the exact price to performance 6 years later lol
@@kyleingram6330 Yeah, I got it at about $300 after taxes, 2 months after launch date. Good ol’ days. Nvidia really outdid themselves with the Pascal lineups.
@@Elf1492 Luckily Nvidia fuked up back then…I’m fine with still using my 1070 🖕 Nvidia
These reviews are inciting a lot of dust filter cleaning and case vacuuming to prolong our aging GPUs :) Thanks for your honest reviews Steve & GN guys!
DOOON'T use a vacuum cleaner to clean computer parts. Blow the dust; don't vacuum it.
When vacuuming the drag of the particles create static electricity and can fry electronics
I decided to get a used EK block and watercool my aging MSI 1080 non-Ti cause its fans were starting to get bad bearings (scraping noises). While it still struggles with games at 1440p, at least it'll now struggle at max 50°C under load for the next couple years... or indefinitely. Might just get a console after this and say FU to PC gaming if this price BS doesn't stop
@@Felipemelazzi
A cheap, small, battery-powered leaf blower is perfect. But, I wouldn't use it for anything other than PCs to keep it clean. Personally, for just a few PCs, a dual stroke party balloon pump does great for the price, although it is more laborious.
I'm probably being sentimental here, but it almost feels like we're going to lose an entire generation of potential PC gamers - at least the type that are into DIY PC building - to inflated graphics card pricing. And, well, that just kind of sucks.
hopefully there are still younger people who are into SBCs and arduino and such, tech literacy still isn't great and that's going to be a problem as more and more technology affects our lives
??? Once you're into DIY PC building, it's like riding a bike... You never forget. The market has always been crazy... It's the craziest now but, it's just a phase. And it's good, leaves more time to do or learn other stuff.
If you're talking about the Lego RUclipsr DIY PC builders then sure... I guess you're not wrong there
Honestly, right now I’m building a pc and the graphics cards kinda made me doubt even getting a pc. I recently bought a aorus 3060 elite for 520, but I might return it and wait for prices to go down. Still don’t really know what I should do
@@blast5558 unless you're really strapped for cash I say hold onto it personally. you actually have a card and it's a high end one, that's more than I can say for myself
Midget Spinner thank you for the advice!🙏🏽
Man, I remember when I bought my 1050Ti for almost HALF the price of this thing. 130€ back when it came out, that wasn't even the lowest offering.
The only constant is change, huh...
Depression is another constant
same mine was about 170 if i remember. I am looking to get a new GPU who knows if this might be it...
you meant greed...that is the only constant here. It is greed.
@@L39T I've been having a lot of fun putting scale models together... when university isn't screwing me over
To be fair though, the 3050 is WAY better at playing current games than the 1050 TI was playing games back then when it came out. A 1050 TI didnt do 60fps on high, benchmarks went down to 20fps in some games.
And if you consider that the 1050 TI price went quickly to 160€, that was also quite overpriced.
Obviously nothing of that is as bad as this piece of junk for >250 bucks. Wouldnt be surprised if its gonna be closer to 400€ in one or two months.
As a 1070 owner, I am still smug right now. It proved to be a really good purchase over time.
the fact that i could sell mine for almost the same price I paid for it... in 2016.
Nvidia xx70 card owners always have a reason to act smug. I bought a 2070S when it was still only 500 dollars. That was a good choice
1070 gang here
1660 super gang stand up
man if not cuz dumbass of mine buying trash 2nd psu my 1070 maybe still stuck in my pc ....f**K
lesson learned never cheap out psu ever !
It's insane how this GPU barely beats the 1070 I bought almost 6 years ago and costs about the same too. I'm kinda speechless actually.
That would make it a better value since it's cheaper. I have a 1070 and I remember the cheapest price you can get one for when they were new was $350 bucks. But they sold more into the $400s.
@@GameCookerUSRocks But it's not a better value, the technology should be getting cheaper and better, but it's not due to the market. So when you really look at it, it's not really a better value.
@@Julian-di7bx But things aren't going to get cheaper because of the policies that countries are implementing. Have things been getting cheaper in Europe? I don't think so. And things here in the US have traditionally been pretty cheap but even here prices have been creeping up. The plandemic just accelerated things.
When countries implement heavy socialistic ideas into their system the inevitable outcome based on very sound history has always been inflation. And then when you throw in natural disasters or something severe like a pandemic, forget about it. 😒
That's not to say that I wouldn't like things to be cheaper. I don't really mind things getting more expensive if you're getting what you're paying for. AMD puts out the 6500xt and the justification is to beat miners at their own game? Or it's too expensive to make one that's $200 therefore cut all the features out? That that does not jive with me.
That's why I feel Nvidia did the right thing with their rtx3050. They at least stuck to their plan and their guns. And the price is right. Will it sell at the price suggested? Probably not but that's not their fault.
And then these upcoming AMD gpus are slated to be expensive as well. I guess we'll see.
@@Julian-di7bx And inflation is... how much? At least 5% per year iirc? So it counts as around 27% price increase in 5 years.
Sure you can count just price, but take in account economics state too.
And me sitting here rocking a 770 I paid almost $500 for back in the day.
It would be interesting to me if you could mount up GPU fans taken right off the cooler and test them in your fan tester. Which AIB provides the best fans?
4 years later still no better price to value replacement for my 1060 ... I wonder how much longer will this keep happening for.
my 1060 is dying, best choice right now with little money i have, i'll get 3050 sed
3-6 months. There are 10-20 million GPUs in mining rigs that will be sold soon (ETH mining ends in June this year). ETH forums are full of discussions when to start selling cards.
@@narutonagato95 fr 1060 ain't it anymore
@@kazioo2 they said the same sh1t about ETH already since years. in 2020 they said it will be quarter 2 of 2021, then they mentioned holidays of 2021. now it's june 2022? who is going to believe this bullcr4p?
@@kazioo2 i really hope that is going to happen and they don't find other coins to mine and waste energy on.
Man, I really feel like this review would have been a lot more scathing if AMD hadn’t just crapped the bed so spectacularly with the 6500XT. This card is laughable and deserves scorn, but instead it basically gets a new version of the “Better than Dell” award: The “Better than the 6500XT” Award.
Ha, Dell would give you a 6300xt, using a whooping 2x pcie lanes and twice the stutters at 720p
lol indeed, very perceptive
Also ironic, coming right on the heels of their "no bad hardware" debunk video
I agree. The conclusion should have been more direct. Don’t buy the 3050. Buy the 6600XT or the 2060 instead. Considering the street price of $400 to $500, gamers shouldn’t even consider the 3050.
And when you think that Nvidia actually has the resources to develop a proper card while AMD had to reuse a laptop GPU, Nvidia should actually get a lot more flak for this. But this won't happen.
@@goa141no6 Actually, buying a new PC last year, got the 3060Ti included at MSRP.
Dell is good for something. Just gotta make sure it has proper cooling and 2 sticks of RAM.
Thank you for giving a comparison with older cards like my 1070. It’s good to know that for me this would be a waste of silicone. Much appreciated
I still remember that sweet presentation of 3k rtx series. Remember that hype regarding the new GPUs performance and those prices. I was naive and stupid. The warm and cozy idea of finally getting a new GPU was born deep inside me. The End.
Never thought that my 2070, that I bought three years ago, would be in the same price bracket as a 3050. These prices are ridiculous!
It’s crazy I’m glad I got mine before this whole gpu shitshow
Not going to lie, I bought 2 2080 FTW3 Hybrid cards for $550/ea when the Super line was announced for the 20 series. I feel smug AF right now. I hate it for everyone that has been waiting for 2 years to actually even put hands on a card.
My 2060 KO has turned out to be an INSANE value for what I paid looking at what's coming out now
I bought my 2070 Super months before the 30 series launch and got called stupid for it, those comments sure didn't age well lol.
RTX 2070 Super with 1080p is essentially future proof for a decade.
I was EXTREMELY lucky that I traded it with a RTX 3070 just days before the absolute boogaloo of the GPU prices.
At this point I don't see AMD/ Nvidia dropping prices. It's been proven to them that people are willing to spend way more money than the two companies were asking for.
That’s why I tell people who have no reason to upgrade yet to stop buying these over inflated cards. If no one was at all buying, they would have to lower the price, but alas greed seemingly always prevails.
Crypto bros ruined pc gaming, at this point an series x or a PS5 is way better.
@@GamingIndex They will be bought by miners regardless. We live in a free market and owning a GPU is a luxury, not a necessity. If you don't want to pay the price for that luxury, don't buy one.
This is happening across all sectors of the economy. Get used to it.
@@Josh-cw8by Not always. You mean to tell me miners are going to dump thousands of dollars into mining IF Bitcoin and ETH price continues to fall into a bear market and it takes years at bear market prices for a ROI, let alone profits? Nah. Saw this happen before. Crypto bull runs = over inflated prices on GPU’s. Crypto bear markets = prices start to recover. Idc about COVID being apart of the equation as well because that’s also not going to affect the world with supply FOREVER. We would adapt somehow even IF it did. I’m not getting “use” to shit because it’s not permanent and anyone who says, “it’s fine for us to pay stupid prices in this industry forever, get use to it.” are apart of them problem. We shouldn’t accept it.
Yes and no. First thing I don't know a single person with an RTX card or an RDNA card. Second thing they would get way more customers with lower prices, but they prefer to sell less cards for higher prices (thanks, miners).
You know it's bad when it makes the 20 series look like a good value buy
As an MSI 580 8gb owner, this was an amazing video. I think you're doing the right move towards fans and such, even though I'm not as interested in those I'm going to watch every one. Because your honesty and unwavering stance on holding AMD and Nvidia to a standard, and not pandering to their marketing BS. Thank. You. So. Much.
A slightly faster 1070, 6 years later, for a higher price. YAY!
All you get is DLSS support! What a joke
@@ashc3765 not all games support dlss
The thing is the 1070 performs better than the 3050
1060 6gb was 350 USD at very least. 1070 was like 450 if not more
@@ashc3765 And ray tracing! which budget gamer aren't going to use
Ideally we as consumers should see notable performance uplift per generation. A 3050 should be about the same or better as a 2060, 3060 to 2070, 3070 to 2080 and so on... Unfortunately this doesn't seems to be the case on the low end and it feels that they do that on purpose... And don't get me start talking about pricing. We truly live in the worst timely for poor gamers.
Do bare in mind that the price to make these cards is quite a bit higher than usual. If it makes you feel better maybe think of the 3060 as your 3050, the 3060ti as your 3060 and then the 3070 as well the 3070. Its just naming and theyve named the cards somewhat around initial msrp that they want.
@@darkwolf1739 NVIDIA really fumbled segmentation in this generation. It's so cluttered and confusing from the perspective of the average consumer
They should have concentrated their efforts one three or even just two cards, but I guess no one really knew the devastation the market would have to endure.
@@darkwolf1739 Do bear in mind that you're getting less performance for the same money. NVidia, taking notes from Intel on stagnation.
New 50 series cards never match previous gen 60 cards, the 1650 is about 10-15% slower than a 1060 3GB. The problem with the card isn't the specs it's the price, basically at 50%ish higher than the OG MSRP of the 1650S plus the chip shortage tax consumers are expected to swallow the "well it's competent at least so they ain't got much choice if they have to have a card" pricing model.
It's such a shame to see this segment of GPU's being so hopeless. I don't blame people giving up and just go full console for gaming.
It just makes more sense. I was looking at a RX 6600 XT because at 650 euros it's the best price for performance right now and it got me thinking. Do you really want to spend that much money in a graphics card while Xbox series X are sitting on shelves for 500? You can even plug a mouse and keyboard into theses things for FPS and web browsing.
Not like that is any better atm. Unless you wanted to pay $800 for a PS5.
I've yet to see a new Xbox series X or a PS5 on the store shelves where I'm at. You're still paying inflated prices for consoles. Also, if you're that worried about money then yes, consoles are where you want to be. I did not get into PC gaming until I was able to throw $1500 at a OEM and then built my own a few years later. PC gaming is expensive. Always has been and always will be compared to consoles.
Console gaming is a much better deal now, however, subhuman scalpers plague that space too
you know shit's fucked when gaming laptops start having good value proposition
I'm currently with a 960 and struggling hard, no way I can get a deal here in Italy even on 1660s going for around 400-500 € which is insane in my mind.
Just refreshed everything apart from my GPU and looking for some way to get anything better.
The struggle is real.
Last time I looked into buying a new GPU was 6 years ago. It's a strange feeling to see the same FPS figures now, with cards at similar cost. I guess my 1070Ti is the best card I'll ever get below $1000.
turn RT on for LOLs : )
@@bujfvjg7222 the rtx 3050 has poor performance in rt
You can get a 6700xt even at the inflated prices for below $1000 and it mops the floor with most any card from the past.... Even competes with or beats the 2080ti....
@@bujfvjg7222 Yeah fair enough, RT is garbage on the 1070Ti. I guess that's a few points towards the 3050, although I don't think anyone really expects to do RT gaming on it. =P
@@Jimster481 I guess, if you want to pay near $1000 for a card from early 2021 with mediocre performance and a 30% performance boost from the 1070Ti. Nah, I'll wait a few years until the market settles down.
I am very happy I pulled the trigger on a slightly more than MSRP 1080 FTW when it released, the rest of my build is geared towards a 1060/1070 spec but they weren't in stock and in hindsight, I am saved from having to fight for these GPUs. I feel for all my fellow builders out there though.
I'd like to replace this 1080 ftw with maybe a 3070 or something but it's just not feasible
Same here. Feels crazy we're running five-year-old cards and there's still no feasible upgrade in sight. An upgrade needs to be at least 50% better to be noticeable (and at least somewhat justifiable), and I'm not going to pay four figures for what basically works as a toy.
@@Geardos1 At this point im just going to wait until the 40 series comes out. If there's still no stock for the 40 series, I'll put on my clown costume.
I just love how GN flips the finger at every company that tries to hoax GN. GN never cares, always do what they want and that’s just so satisfying to watch. Best sub I ever left. Keep up the good work! 😊
which is good since their reviews won't have a shred of bias
I was certain to replace my 1080 by end of last year. Given the current prices, I will probably run it another year. Still does 1440p just nicely.
I was going to replace my 1080 with this card for now. I have an OEM Alienware 1080 that runs super hot in my custom build and it looks like shit. I'm on the fence even more now after watching this video.
Try selling it for 500-600 and buy if you find for lower price 3060ti, worthy upgrade.
you will probably run it another 2 years. its a decent card with above rtx2060-level performance. this means you need at least 600dollars right now to get something a little bit better. since all games have video-settings in the menu its not worth to upgrade it for a while.
@@milosstojanovic4623 lol this is what i plan on doing now
Remember when the X50 series cards were in the $100-150 range?
The new 3050 is more expensive than what I paid for a 2060 a few years ago. Market still messed up.
now people paid more for less performance
Keep doing the reviews when they are released. I have been revisiting some videos from last year as stock has finally become available.
Quick suggestion Steve : with inflated prices and controversy over MSRP, is it possible for you to put MSRP dollar amounts on the far left on your benchmark graphs for each card, like $250/330 for 3050 to show what you're paying for ? Judging by the scale of your text, it looks like it could be really neat, and provide some more detail. I'm looking at the text on my phone and seeing that it would be legible That would be cool to compare generational price gouging for MSRP, etc. ❤️ Much love. ☺️👍
i would have never expected that when i bought my 1060 that was literally close to THE TIME, where buying cards would become hell
Same. Got my 1660Ti just a few months before this madness took off.
I bought a GT 1030 from Amazon for $80 brand new last January. A few months later I checked the price of the same card and it was selling for $130. So happy I at least got a low end GPU at a low end price lol.
Same. I got my card literally the same week the gpu stocks starts to rise hard. Like had I waited for another week, I have to get almost 50% weaker card for the same price.
I got my 3080 in late November 2020 after stalking the Zotac drops for a few days. I almost gave up and pushed it off for "when the shortage improves". Thank god I didn't. I thought it was bad then but I really had no idea how bad it would get after january 2021
I remember when I thought the GTX 1650 was overpriced
Being far, 3050 makes more sense, 1650 is Pascal refresh.
With DLSS enabled, it leaves the 1650 behind.
Garbage card and was always overpriced, current situation does not change that.
@@davidg4612 Never liked Pascal refresh.
@@saricubra2867 DLSS at resolutions below 4K look like dogshit to me
Will this VBIOS work to upgrade retail cards as well? Can it be extracted, or even downloaded officially?
What would you recommend to replace my gtx970 ? I am still not seeing anything I can afford that would be worth it.
$50 to move a few sliders on After Burner, seems like a good deal. I guess the OC card could have a better binned chip on it, I mean that's the thought process I use when I pay the extra for an OC card.
bins and power limit
Unfortunately it’s not that easy anymore. These MSRP cards are usually power limited, leaving you very little to no room at all for overclocking. You used to be able to overclock more easily but on the older GTX line (900’s and older)
@@AnabolicRick915 I think you are right, everything these days, GPU and CPU seem to so close to the limit out of the box, that there just isn't any headroom to OC.
@@yakacm Not only that, manufactures straight up take away your ability to overclock by locking down power limits. For example, my old RTX 2060 AMP edition had a 110% power slider, whereas some lower end 2060’s are hard stuck at 100% power limit from factory due to board partners wanting to sell “faster” variants at a premium.
Really excited for the new fan testing, can't wait to see what you guys test.
One question. In many performance tests we so this card is close to a GTX 980 or GTX 1070, etc. The thing is that I didn't hear in the video, raytracing and DLSS 2.0 don't add value to the card despite its raw performance in FPS?
Will you be doing a reveiw of any of the Digital Storm pre-builds?
Rather than fixing the supplies issue, gpu companies just keep releasing newer, weaker, and more expensive card.
This is business
What fixing? They don't have any problem. They Made better money than in decades before. And although you have to pay for 3050 around 330$. They understood it like they are making charity for poor people without real work.
they can't fix supply issue, they don't own the factories
I hate humanity.
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Yeah this is the perfect time for GN to start exploring other things like the fan tester , nother the less we appreciate the percentage differences so that people can maybe do an informed decision between availability/prices/used market etc
Should we add pcie only 75w power class to neverending gpu features rip list? Or brand new gt730 would not allow this?
Is there any point in (trying to at a reasonable price) buying this to replace an AMD Radeon 7970 for 1440p (mostly just photo editing)? Thanks...
I'm going to call it the Nvidia Wendy's Chili edition. Made of all the left over scraps they have laying around, but not the good stuff. But still taste okay in the end because you don't know better.
it feels like when its a week after thanksgiving and you are still eating off leftovers and now your just down to the worst parts of everything but still have to finsh it off
Thanks for the wonderful insight Stefan Etienne from Verge
I was so bummed when my 1070 died, would still been using it for sure! Bought a 3070ti for 'only' 150 over msrp so can't really complain since they go for €1200 and up atm....
You're a lucky guy 👍
What did you do with the 1070?
I built a new pc 2~3 months ago, and the "least terrible" deal I was able to get were I live is an RX6600 for double the MSRP: $660 . The current market is a knife in the back of gamers :( :( :(
@@rhobson yeah it is so bad, I'm also afraid it will never really recover to the old prices. Since manufactures see people will pay the ridiculous prices anyway if they really want to or need to...
@@vgamesx1 It blew a cap near the power delivery. It blew out sparks and pc shut off and there was some smoke. I opened it up because I wanted to replace the blown part, but it damaged the pcb pretty good so I wasn't confident enough in my own skill to attempt a repair. It's on my desk now as an ornament. Shame was a pretty decent one from EVGA, a FTW.
can we do this V-BIOS update our self after we brought the cheap video card?
Any recommendations for someone running a gtx 770? Is a 1660 ti worth 400$? We still have yet to see what retailers offer for the 3050 but at this point what choice is there?
ok why is nobody talking about the fact that evga & nvidia is basically like "oops we made your gpu too fast"
as if ripping off people with software caps is the right thing to do
They're most likely binning them. The higher binned chips get the higher clocked BIOS. This card was running fine, but another with the wrong BIOS could be unstable. GPU manufacturers were doing this for a long time now. You're free to get the cheaper variant and overclock the card yourself.
@@MariuszCiechomski Or flash a BIOS from a faster SKU, since NVIDIA and EVGA have confirmed it's possible.
"oops we made the review sample faster accidentaly so it looks better in comparison to everything else"
Well, on the bright side, this means BIOS flashing will be easily possible on these cards...
@@bananya6020 it's not like it's ever really been hard, has it? the problem is just that they're encrypted...
The whole time, I was laughing at the fact that shortly after the launch of the 2060 Super, I was able to get one of the OC models for the same price as a base 2060. New cards just don't seem worth the asking price to me anymore. Still hard to comprehend how screwed up the market has become.
You mean $3000 for a GPU doesn't sound like a good price to you?
I was feeling the same. I grabbed a 2060 (not super) and am playing almost every new game on high to ultra on a 1440 monitor. I am so happy I’m set for awhile and don’t need to be in the hunt for a new card right now. Feel bad for folks who do but the 2060 has proven a long lasting card.
that 2060 should carry you well int othe 4000 series, by then prices would drop, but doubt it will be like before, maybe close to 2000 series launch prices?
R u planning on making a video for the Omen 45L case
Makes me wonder if you buy the cheaper card and flash it since they shipper that way
I paid $220 for my Red Dragon RX 580 18 months ago, the next month everything went crazy, I went from a 2gig card to an 8gig so even though the card was already old, it was a good upgrade for me, I also built an entire Ryzen system a few months later based around newer silicon Ryzen 5 3600XT which is a sweet little chip, my first water-cooled system too. A few months after I got my new GPU people were asking over $800 for my card on eBay, which helped me feel a little better about getting an older card.
I also buy a RX 580 8gb almost 2 years ago. It cost only 120$ now i can sell it for 300$ 😂
I running a Sapphire Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB I paid £129.99 for it back in Feb 2020 it was a replacement card I had hope to upgrade sometime at end of this year 2022
I never get what bright and new why it stop you getting a lemon plus it save you lot of cash and it work well most games run on hardware that two + generation old as this development time they need so run behind the hardware
I hope to get a 3070 or maybe 3080 when the price drop due to new generation GPU hitting the market
I know I not replacing my card any time soon
I think it going to take until this time next year before we see the GPU market find a new balance point and for me I not going start looking end of 2023
I bought that absolute unit about 3 years ago.
NORMALLY, electronic components lose value. Not today.
By the way... that RX 580 is still able to play most games and even AAA games running on Medium can take it.
All I need to spend was 150$ about 3 years ago...
That was a smart purchase.
hmm yes, nvidia/evga very accidentaly put a higher spec bios on the card, that's definitely not sketchy at all. This is so infuriating.
even if this wasnt intentional, it makes you realize youre paying all that extra money for the same thing thats just not software locked lol
@@Moon___man i mean CPUs have that as well (especially you, intel)
I can always count on you guys to see how well a certain card does against my RX 580😎, thank you GN team.
Thanks Steve, you just told everyone that they can successfully flash the bios on the cheaper card, and get a marginal uplift. Back to you Steve.
so if AMD and Nvidia are now cutting down the PCIe lanes,
why not make the card have a shorter pcie slot/header/whateveryoucallit
it would greatly improve compatability in systems that may not have a full slot
and allow the card to be moved to another slot that has less lanes w/o blocking a full sized one
In theory you should be able to just cut it off
Completely agree, but some counterpoints:
-Not all slots are made equal - using a full length slot will mean users are most likely to install in the slot the motherboard manufacturer intended for the GPU, which may be lower latency/have better built power delivery
-the full length slot will provide better structural support for the card, so less GPU sag
-mid length PCI-E slots seem to be less common on boards these days anyway, so this use case is less likely that it might have been historically
-Possible economies of scale/experience of board partners with this physical slot make it cheaper to manufacture cards with the full length connector than retooling for something else
-More people would be aware of the reduced number of links if the connector is physically different - if you don't read a review you might not notice
But yes, they probably should use a shorter PCI-E connector on those cards, it'd only open up potential use cases, as fringe as they are.
if they did that, then people who is not technically incline, will assume that the gpu is not powerful enough for gaming. So less people would buy it and less money for them.
edit: typo
You need the full length connection for stability in the socket.
@@Safetytrousers Nonsense, what exactly do you think the large clip at the front of the card is for?
1:20 How is the Asus Strix card $489?? That’s nearly double the standard MSRP, it’s ridiculous to see some of the variants go for so much.
Foreshadowing. That's the actual street price you'll pay for those cards. 250$ will only be seen in fairyland.
ASUS tax. Be smart and don't pay it.
how can 2304 cuda units be slower than 1536 cuda cores of the gtx1660ti?
Hmm... so how do we get a hold of the upgraded Vbios :). Well, I'll just keep playing on my 970M laptop.
"mistake" lol sure they mistakenly made it faster for reviewers then discovered it just before reviews go live? they done the same thing when the 5700XT launched when they sent reviewers 2060sc cards to compare it to, they were basically an underclocked 2070.
Chances that AIBs make any of the base models after the launch date rather than making the OC variants exclusively seem slim to none.
Well i have a asus strix 970 gtx and should i buy the rtx 3050??? Im not an expert
Thank you Steve & crew!
Still on RX 580 i got from a miner during an ETH slump.
The fact this GPU is still tested in various benchmarks and doesn't end up looking (too) bad while being essentially half a decade old speaks volumes.
On a 580 8gb aswell. But bought a 6600 and it's on the way. If you do need a upgrade soon Newegg has 6600 and 6600 xt for $7-800 CAD
since evga accidently shipped with the OC bios that means there is no reason to buy the OC card just buy the base card and flash the OC bios on to it,
Or just overclock it? I mean you know it can run safely and stable at those clocks.
So I have one of these do I upgrade or keep it
Did you do something with the intro logo?
Gotta call something out here on these graphs. As a longtime owner of a gtx 980 amp!, framerates for 900 series cards is no where near as low in Division2 as your graphs are representing. 20 fps on 1080p/high is flat out wrong for a 970 in that title, as a 980 on 1080p high can easily avg in the 70s on the benchmark and in game. Very strange result there for sure.
Seeing the crazy differences in MSRP between the base models (Twin Edge, Eagle, Phoenix) and the ones with an OC, RGB and/or a better cooler, I doubt we'll see those base models in stock. Probably just a paper launch to 'have' one at MSRP. 3050's start at €329 and very probably a lot more expensive than that.
GTX1050 was $109.
They'll have a batch on launch day. So if you want one try hard, cause after that they'll be gone.
@@KelvinKMS We're unlikely to ever see cards at that price again. The current shipping prices and tariffs alone pretty much preclude it now.
@@jasonhurdlow6607 I am fine. I am using GTX 1080Ti SLI when it launch. I can play 4K 60FPS easily. I will never buy any new nvidia cards if price is not reasonable.
Do you guys have any plans for HDMI cable testing? HDMI cables seem to have no real way to verify quality without buying and testing every one of them.
So what you're clearly saying is that I need to "upgrade" from my 2080 super to the 3050 right?
Got a 330$ GTX 1070 6 years ago for the same performance. Entry level performance for top tier price.
I remember when I thought $330 was too high for the 660ti that I reluctantly bought. I wish we could go back to those prices.
Be mad at the FED, they printed 80% of all the USD in the last 18 months. This is why prices are so high, because the biggest companies and investment groups have literally unlimited money due to the fed pumping the markets.
@@Jimster481 US inflation has a small impact on global GPU prices... It's the shortages, mining, global inflation and corporate greed that's the problem.
@@ha231 No, it is global inflation as a result of the FED. If you had any idea how building GPU's worked you would understand. The chokes for example used to deliver power to the core itself are up about 300% in price. Many other mosfets are up 80% or more in price... Shipping is 200-800% more expensive depending on what it is and where it is going.
Memory prices are up about 30%. If you think that somehow this doesn't contribute to the poor value we see and the fact that MSRP cards basically cannot exist, then your head is in the clouds.
I agree that the shortages obviously drive these prices up more, that has to do with the inflation as well and the tyrannical governments closing down factories around the globe. I would say that in the case of GPU prices, corporate greed is about 15% of the overall issue.
My toolkit arrived yesterday, Thanks Steve!
The thermoses and now a dewar. Is the 12900k OC stream getting closer I wonder?
Unpog results :(
Keep up the good work Steve + Team
i wish people included more of the big common cards in their comparisons like the 1080's 980 and maybe a 1050 ti
Hate to point out the obvious, but what's to stop someone from flashing the 'wrong' faster vBIOS? Or just using your tool of choice to overclock it manually, which will likely give the same result as I can't see the power limit being higher
Best value card today to pair with my 12600K build?
When i bought the 1660 Ti near the release I felt I messed up by not getting the 2060 or waiting for the 1660S, but now I am rather happy that I got a decent gpu at all.
Same here.
Same here with a regular 1660. I got stupid good silicon for overclocking so my performance exceeds a stock 1660 TI and that'll carry me just fine for a few more years until I upgrade.
@@XxGorillaGodxX No way your card is able to run anywhere near a Ti's 12gbps stock ram clock.
@@mydogsgfhasmoretestosteron7140 I mean game performance. My memory runs at 10gbps combined with a stable 2130mhz core clock. Of course a Ti is better in some cases but my performance is similar to other benchmarks I've seen. Regardless I do wish I could've tried to fit more budget for a Super/Ti. The whole lineup has good cards though, so I'm not complaining.
Same with the 1660
Can anyone explain why the newer cards are running on less express lanes? Older cards ran on 16 lines but this gen it depends on the card if it's using all 16 or as few as 4?
What's the difference between the XC an the XC black??
Jacking up prices for GPUs was their plan all along. Prices went up in all segments even before mining craze, and those 6500xt/3050 releases are clear regressions and final nail into budget PC gaming. Now wait for some GTX 3030 2GB for $200.
And the worst part is, people keep buying.
Steve, I bought my 980Ti almost 7(!) years ago. That's gotta be a Hall of Famer for value out of a GPU.
I too bought mine in 2015
i am new to this. have a 24 inches 1440p resolution monitor, do i really need a 8k gpu like the rtx 3050 or the rtx 3060 or it would be a waste of money because my monitor is just a 2k resolution? plz help.
In other words get the RX 6600 if its the same price or a few bucks more than the RTX 3050?
The last few video card reviews have really reinforced my grabbing a 5600 XT a year ago at MSRP as being an excellent decision.
Lucky. Still think people with a "old" 2060 have had a better deal than you tho :p
if my 1060 wasn't short a DisplayPort that I need for my Rift S, I'd certainly still be using it. Even so, the RX 580 I'm running now is disappointingly competitive with some of the recent offerings.
So, Prices.
I did "OK" given the market to get an ASUS RTX 3070 KO OC for $729 off the store shelf, just walking into Micro Center yesterday?
Is the 1660 super anywhere comparable to the 3050?
Here’s a project for you:
After running all fan tests, design your own fan and pc case in attempt to beat the market in maximum airflow/cooling.
take the side panel off and point a 12" fan at it lol, that's the old school way
It's literally going to be 20 120mm noctua server fans running at 100% or 2 industrial air blower just blasting 100+ cfm
980ti owner here. Yep, feeling pretty smug
Whats a good gpu for Fivem and streaming?? Plz help
Im not very good at computers, but i currently have a 1080 ti 11gb, i suppose its not worth ”upgrading” to this one, the rtx technology alone is not worth it, right??
having a new "budget" card only means the already mid/entry level 3060 and 3060 ti will increase its prices
Ehm, no ?
Having a new budget card means people actually on tight budgets will buy the lower 3050 card making 3060 cards "sit more on shelves" so helping availability which should help with inflation due to high demand vs availability.
Obviously that's all theoretical speech, reality is we still have scalpelrs which create false scarcity.
@@bancodrut exscly, un reslity and i'm the current market, the 3050 fills the budget braket of the 3060, and the 3060 thus goed towsrds the next braket. Either way, the 305 is gonna sell for $600 aT least